Why don't you own a gun

>>128307805
I own five guns. This thread is stupid.

>>128307929
Good. You're doing your part.

>>128307805
I just got a basic bitch AR yesterday for like $500. There really isn't an excuse for not having a gun today.

>>128307805
What shotgun? Wood and steel makes me hard.

>>128307805
Just look at my flag and then ask me that question again.

>>128309372
Looks like a winchester 1897 or a model 12

>>128307805
Because guns kill people and I don't wanna kill people.

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Only rural and suburban retards own guns.

>>128307805
Have a 9mm next to bed that will hold me until I can reach my 12 gauge, which is in my closet.

I also live in a red state which makes defending my home easier. Come at me niggers.

>>128309372
Winchester 1897 with a shortened barrel.

>>128309860
Get one anyway.

>>128307805
you should own a gun or things like link related can happen
>>128306582

Because I live in California, just fuck my shit up.
On the bright side we're getting closer to getting rid of daylight savings.

>>128307805
guns are scary

>>128308894
what kind? looking at buying one myself

>>128309512
>under 18

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>>128310257
>Responsibility is scary
Enjoy the (you)

>>128310046
I'm going to get a Section 1 license at some point as I'm planning to get some bolt-action rifles such as a Lee-Enfield or a Mosin.

Problem is, the price of guns in the UK are sky high. For a straight pull AR15 you're looking in the range of £2500-3000 as you're not allowed semi/full-auto centerfire rifles, they have to be straight pull. Even a straight pull AK would set you back £1k.

>>128307805

owning a gun for anything other than recreational shooting just means you are a gigantic pussy who is afraid all the time.

>>128307805
>1911
>as a SHTF/defense handgun

>no accessories on anything
>probably no LBE
>probably like 4 mags total for the AK/1911

Judging the flip out of your arsenal senpai

>>128309512
MODS

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>>128307805
tfw you live in a democrat stronghold but still exercise your right.

>>128310471
>anyone who lives on the gulf coast and has hurricane shutters is just a pussy who lives in fear all the time

>>128310338
DPMS's are cheap as shit price wise, I've got several. M&P's you can catch on sale for about the same money a few times a year.

>>128310453
>doesn't even have enough bullets to spell it right

>>128310681

Ya cause home invasion season rolls around every year ya pussy.

And also my fellow Americans talking about exercising their rights or defending themselves from the government! Fucking LOL. Everyone here is such a fucking pussy who couldnt give the slightest shit about their rights. They care more about reality tv and coffee cups while they arent cowering in fear from the moooslums on the other side of the planet.

>>128310651

>no accessories on anything

A firearm should work as is. Why do you wanna doll up your shooter like a barbie?

>>128309974

Get rid of your kitchen knives. And your car. And cut off your hands and feet.

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>>128307805
Own an air gun. Might get a gun license at some point to own a real firearm. Sucks the police is allowed to enter your house to do firearm inspection when you have guns here though, but oh well.

>>128310958
>adding things that literally make your gun faster/more accurate/easier to shoot is a bad thing

Every fighting rifle should have an optic. Do you even have a decent holster? Or a sling?

>>128310471
Better a living pussy than a dead cuck.

>>128310338
Not the same guy, but any budget ar works really. An AR is hard to fuck up.

>>128311199
>Better a living pussy

No it isnt, thats what makes you all such faggots.

>>128310924
>Le everyone with a first aid kit in their car is a pussy who lives in fear all the time lol

I live in California, trying to get a gun here is like trying to find a genie

>>128311357

A car is actually a dangerous thing, the chances of dying in a car are 10000x times higher than getting home invaded and living out your fantasy of shooting a poor black person.

I would need to make a hunter's license (2000-3000€) or be in a sports shooting club for like 2 years or sth. Even then no way to get an AR just pistol/small caliber guns/ hunting rifles. So why even bother fuck burgers Im jelly

>>128311463
>[country] is such a pussy for having a military, no one is going to attack them xD

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>>128310461
Save up. You can do it. Even just one is good.

>>128310651
I've got a bit more than just that pic. Current pic related is what I could fit in one pic.

>>128310676
GOOD. The world needs more people like you.

>>128311182
Do it.

>>128311463
>this other thing is dangerous
>therefore, you should do nothing to prevent the first thing

solid logic, Shekelberg

>>128309985
kill yourself leaf proxy fag

>>128311595

USA is such a pussy for having the most bloated military on earthy and its citizens are still scared of illiterate poor people on the other side of the planet

ftfy

>>128310257
t. liberals

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>>128311612
>>128311612
>>128311612
>KSG
>chinese red dot on a frikkin G3 clone WITH A BIPOD
>all that junk and no AR, no hi cap poly pistol

I'm glad I stopped going on /k/.

>>128307805
i dont need one

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>>128311612
I spy with my little eyes a SKS
youre alright OP

I've wanted to buy a gun for some time now
but it's been one of those things I put off and put off
I'll probably end up getting myself one around Christmas if I set aside enough dosh

>>128311193

I don't consider a holster or sling accessories, really. You gotta have those unless the only place you use it is a shooting range. Pops bought me an AR-15 for christmas with a red dot on it but I'd rather have iron sights. I don't want my guns to need batteries to acquire a target. I like it caveman simple, what can I say. All the flashy extra stuff makes libs extra skurred, so I guess accessorizing ain't all that bad now that I think about it. Just not for me.

>>128311723
>why are you getting vaccinated for polio bro, it's not 1914 any more haha

>>128311199
>better a living pussy

It is far better to die on your feet, than to live on your knees

>>128310471

Its a man's responsibility to protect his home and family. It might only happen once, it might never happen, but you need a gun in your house just like you need a fire extinguisher, otherwise you are failing as a man.

>>128311463

>living out your fantasy of shooting a poor black person.

Whoa there, champ. Who said anything about black people? Oh, that's right, you did. Because only black people break into houses yeah? Do your lib friends know how racist you are?

>>128311931
You know virtually all red dots that should actually go on a defensive rifle co-witness with iron sights, and take cheap and readily available QD mounts, right? Not to mention that they last 3+ years while left on on a single button cell battery and can survive being run over and dropped from helicopters...

Lights take batteries, or are you too cool to need to see what you're shooting at, too?

>>128312198

>triggered

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>>128307805
this

>>128311950

That is not at all the correct way to use that phrase.

Whats a fair price for an AK in the states?

Allways buy a gun even if its just a hunting rifle to protect your home from niggers.

>>128307805

Because it was the ((winner)) of WW1 and WW2 who forbid people to own guns

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>>128311612
Yeah, I probably will. Thing is, the police being allowed to enter your house just to check if your guns are safe feels like penis inspection day all over again...

>>128312395
$650 or so. They're way overpriced due to import bans.

>>128312441
Wasn't citizen gun ownership made illegal in Germany towards the end of the war by the German government?

I don't currently own a gun, and I live in Texas. Good topic I will start collecting guns and ammo soon. I am a Navy veteran and love being armed. Fuck the Jews and communist fags they can eat bullets

>>128312241

>or are you too cool to need to see what you're shooting at, too?

I'm too cool for a lot of things, brother.

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>>128307805

A gun is like a penis. If you don't have one you are NOT a man, despite what liberals try to say.

>>128311803
I don't get how any of these are real issues. Any gun from a reputable manufacturer is fine and skill matters more than anything.

>>128312468

Really? Its the most common gun on the planet. You could trade an AK for a bottle of booze in a place like Nigeria.

>>128312629
At least you'll admit it.

But seriously, as a fellow gun owner, put a light on any home defense guns unless you don't have any loved ones. There's no reason to risk accidentally shooting a loved one. It's happened more than once.

>>128312661

>Being this big of a cuck

I bet you get really excited when you clean your guns faggot

>>128312697
Skill matters more than anything, but putting airsoft-grade red dot on a frikkin PTR is incredibly irresponsible, and makes zero sense. Why does it also have a bipod if it has a red dot? Why does it have a collapsible stock and a bipod?

Kel-tec is hardly a reputable manufacturer, anyway, and "muh skill" is a common cop-out offered by people who arbitrarily prefer guns that are objectively worse for defense than their more common counterparts (1911 v Glock/M&P, AK v AR, etc)

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>>128308894
Same, I bought my ar in parts, looking for sales and ended up paying like $450. Its great. Doesn't have all the bells and whistles but looks good and works even better. Nothing to complain about. I really wanna get a vz58 now though.

>>128312837

Well, it is pretty satisfying to jam that bore snake into the barrel, over, and over and over, ugh gawd yes... Don't get me started on lubrication.

>>128312727
Import bans and badly made domestic AKs really did fuck the AK market here. $600-$700 is what you can expect for an entry level AK in the US.

>Nation with the largest number of gun owners.
>Angry commie peasant rifle costs more than a mid-level AR.
It ain't right.

>>128312588

According to Wikipedia, after WW1 the ((winner)) forbid arms
Hitler gave the people - his people - arms back again

>>128307805

I'm about to move to DC and have no desire to deal with the red tape until I move out of the district when buying a home

Then I can buy my P226 and put together my AR15 rig and be happy.

>>128313332

>I'm about to move to DC

That sucks. RIP right to keep and bear arms not being infringed.

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>>128307805
I'm doing my part.

>>128309985
>good night alt-right
>alt-right owns guns, you don't

>>128307805
i do have a spas and a sites resolver, gun laws here are not that strict

>>128307805
I'm afraid I might shoot myself with it desu.

>>128312980
>putting airsoft-grade red dot on a frikkin PTR is incredibly irresponsible
Yeah, I swiped that red-dot off a crossbow, but the little shit has held zero and worked for about 1k rounds now. As for the bipod, blame a busted left arm that I'm still recovering from. The KSG is little more than a neat range toy, honestly.

>>128307805
We aren't allowed guns :(

>>128313177
Alright, that may well be, and that would be good, but didn't he take that right away again, first from the Jews, then from everyone? (Presumably as their popularity waned.)

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>>128313766
As long as you don't act like a nigger you should be perfectly safe.

Because I either buy a gun to stay with it at home without even being able to test if it works or not or I get a license to be able to bring it to a range, but this license requires me to stay at the same place for 3-6 months at least, because it is they take to come and inspect security to give the license and moving to another place means I would need to keep renting two places for this much time.

>>128312449
Why is dutch practically german with a broken jaw and cerebral palsy?

Must be what the weed did to you guys.

>>128313892

No, after WW2 people were disarmed
After a while we were allowed to carry arms again in special cases

>>128307805
I have to change houses first. But after that you can bet your ass that I will buy a gun and go shoot it. I also gotta buy a race car; thinking of getting an abarth or something

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>>128314398
When are you niggers going to bring back our bikes? Also, stop digging holes on our beaches, the English already left.

>>128310471
telling people they shouldn't own guns makes you a giant cuck, let me guess, you probably have a felon in the family you don't want someone to defend themselves against.

Not only do I own a few, I have converted some anti-guns to pro-gun by taking them shooting.

>>128314459
Alright. Is it still the case that Germany must not allow gun ownership due to that, or did it just fade into a modern situation where the people/politicians don't want guns legalized anyway?

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Redpill me on the HK 416 and why I should get anything else /pol/

>>128314696
Niemals du käsefressender Müllmann!

>escapes silently into the night

>>128309985
>Only rural and suburban retards own guns.
only beta cucks and felons dont

>>128314876
>telling people they shouldn't own guns

I know theres a lot of lead in the water around here so its hard for you, but my first sentence showed that im for gun ownership. You are a little bitch though if you use it for "home defense"

All you are doing is buying something to make you feel safe cause you are a coward at heart.

>>128315241
It IS slightly worse than the visually identical american counterpart.

but we on /pol/ know you guys praise german stuff.

>>128314163
How about you live in 1 place for more than 6 months?

>>128315127

((They)) dont want people owning guns

>>128307805
I would but I don't know how to get one legally in canada and I'm too lazy to look it up

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>>128315444
Do not want DI system though. I'm thinking about just getting a really expensive upper from HK.

>>128315378
There is literally nothing wrong with trusting your life to yourself.
You're telling me that if Jamal and Trayqu'awn decide to break into your house and rape your wife, steal whatever they can find, and kill you all that you're going to just hope the police get there in time?

Don't you dare try to tell me that has never happened.

>>128307805

Because NGI is never going to have a full profile of me.

>>128315378
>You are a little bitch though if you use it for "home defense"
you're for guns about as much as Hillary is, Showing an intruder your bloody vagina wont scare them away. I hope you break in looking for a fair fight, you wont leave alive

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>>128307805

but I do anon

>>128315899
Your local hunting store probably hosts PAL courses.
You take a few hour long course, fill out a couple pages of paperwork and mail it into the RCMP.
You then wait a month and get your license and can go buy whatever you want.

>>128307805

No proper place to store one./Can't afford it.

To own a gun here you have to prove you either intend to hunt with it or regular intend to competition shoot. I.e. have a need to own one. I can't afford either.

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My first.

>>128314521
italy stay focus. race cars after the race wars.

>your height
>do you own a gun

6.3
No

>>128307929
>>128308894
>>128309884
>>128310018
>>128310046
>>128310154
>>128310676
>>128310685
Johnson these are the guys you want to target

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>>128307805
Even better, pic related.

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>>128316522

You'll never get me lucky guns :^)

>>128312661

This can't be real.

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>>128314521
>; thinking of getting an abarth or something

>>128315999
>Jamal and Trayqu'awn

exactly what im talking about. You will never get to live out your cuck fantasy.

>>128316076

Look at this fear. Home of the brave my ass.

>>128316293
Solid first desu.

Every house should have 1 shotgun imo.

>>128316229
In N Ireland its so fucking easy to get a gun

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>>128315881
(((They))) don't want OTHER people to have guns.

>>128316119
remove the rear sight and put it as far back as it will go on the rail you autist

>>128316652
I hope there's a non gay AR off camera

>>128313628
8 guns, and not one of them is decent looking

>>128315985
Well knock yourself out.
Erschießt uns mit unseren eigenen Waffen.
Wie ironisch

>>128316978
How can it be our weapons if they can own them if they want to and we can't?

>>128315985

Interesting image considering Tyler was a criticism of the brutality, hyper-masculinity, violence, and impossible standards men are just expected to aspire to in a broken system.

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>>128316293
pretty
>>128316652
now this guy has quality taste

>>128307805
I own 5

AR15 (PSA/BCM mix)
SKS (Yugo)
Walther PPX
Springfield XDS-9

and a little 17 hmr bolt

I'm suicidal and I would probably kill myself if I had one

>>128317416
did you happen to vote for hillary by chance

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>>128313839

This meme again

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I do own a gun though.

>>128316293

Dat short barrel. Are you a manlet?

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I'm not allowed to.

>>128310471
>afraid all the time

I bought a shotgun a couple years ago. It sits in my room, with some shells in the case. 99% of the time, I'm not thinking about it, or home invasion. Why should I not have spent $500 one time for peace of mind that means if somebody does try to break into my house, I have a readily accessible means of defense? It's like telling me having a spare tire means I'm living in fear all the time.

>>128310651

You are cancer.

Make, model, and accessories are the benchmarks of noobs who can't actually shoot, but think they can buy their way to competence.

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barely can afford rent and loan payment. Gun and ammo are expensive

>>128317736
Yes you are, God said so.

>>128307805
Sage datamining threads.

Stop showing the feds your arsenal, fools.

>>128310461
Get the Enfield. I still kick my self for not getting one 10years ago when they were only $350 a pop.

>>128316978
What are you talking about anon?

>>128317163
I think you missed the point of the character.

>>128307805
I personally do not own a gun. Downsides outweigh the upsides for me. To be more specific:
>I live in an upper class suburban area of the United States. I also make 6+ figures a year. Hunting is neither required, nor necessary.
>There isn't domestic crime in my area. There hasn't been a home invasion or anything for the 10+ years I've lived in this area.
>Guns cause demonstrably more harm to owners than to others (I mean, you -do- recognize census data / rigorous studies, I assume)
>I live in 2017, not 1840. I'm not settling wild frontier with dangerous animals / relevant threats to my safety.

There just isn't a need for one.

I don't begrudge people that own them if they live in tribal village #37 in Africa, because who knows. Maybe you're low on food and some other hungry guy is going to break in and kill you for your loaf of bread. By all means, defend yourself.

However, the goal of a society is to -not- require that. Dress for the job you want, not the job you have, and all that.

I do have to say though:
> keep those who govern him nervous
Fucking kek. Absolutely no way red necks owning shotguns puts any fear into their state senators / representatives. Para-military technology has too far outstripped simple guns. There is no way a civilian let uprising could ever force anything on the state or federal level. Sure you could cause a ruckus and maybe get people to start listening, but you can do that through peaceful means as well (Which has the advantage of not vilifying you, and thus driving support -away- from your cause)

>>128316715
>Look at this fear. Home of the brave my ass.
Only Niggers and felons dont want people shooting intruders, I guess your both

Take your tough guy shit back to MLK boulevard and learn to keep your hands to yourself before you get Zimmermaned

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Rate my weapons system.

>>128311193

Or you could get gud skrub.

aimnorthoptics.com

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>>128317855
>Gun and ammo are expensive

>>128318075

Anon, did you just repurpose a kegel exercise device?

It's okay, we're all friends here.

>>128318007
>Guns cause demonstrably more harm to owners than to others (I mean, you -do- recognize census data / rigorous studies, I assume)

I recognize those studies lump suicides in with accidental deaths and thus are completely fucking useless.

>>128318007
Cringed to this desu.

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>>128318225
I'm guessing you're fat.

>>128311803

That Cz is poly and hi cap

>>128307805
I don't own a gun, because I have a knife and a shovel.

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#Current year and no body armor

Fucking cucks

>>128316968
I hope a faggot noguns isn't posting behind this ID

>>128318007
>Absolutely no way red necks owning shotguns puts any fear into their state senators
shotguns? we AMERICANS can own LEGAL machine guns, suppressors, 50cals to name a few, who uses shotguns anymore?

>>128318454

I could've gone with midget sex swing.

Does that get you going?

>>128307805
But I do, anon.

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>>128318687

>DO I FIT IN YET GUSY?

Still as pathetic as always.

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>>128318646
>who uses shotguns anymore?
>shot pistols
I do

>>128318311
>But it's a demonstrable fact that suicides are more prevalent in homes with guns.

Yeah realize how hard it is to actually die, right? Like it actually takes some balls to slit both wrists all the way down your forearm and bleed out. A gun just lets you click a button. The point is that there are people that would have killed themselves either way, but there are also demonstrably people that can't go through with it if it's not as easy as "pressing a button".

Why do you discount replicated studies? I've never understood anti-intellectualism. None of that was a judgement on you or your beliefs. I mean as long as you're not being a turbo-fag and ignoring facts, you're totally within your right to own a gun, at least in this country.

>I don't care about the increased likelihood of harming myself or my children. I think being able to defend my home in the minuscule chance that it is invaded is worth the trade off.

That's all you've gotta say, and no one can say shit about it. You do you, man

>>128307805
I had a Colt 1911 that belonged to my granddad. He fought in Corea and was shipped back home (South Africa) after being injured in Busan. He smuggled it (or so he said) when he came to Argentina in the '60s and he said it was actually used in battle, but I didn't really believe him. I hadn't ever fired it, I was afraid it'd break, it was pretty worn down.

Anyway, so a few years ago my (now ex) girlfriend sold it behind my back to some narconigger to buy some useless shit I don't even remember. It was the first time I hit a woman, but fucking hell I was mad as fuck.

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>>128318607
>surely a $400 10 inch square over your chest will save your life

you realize you have arteries in your legs and arms, and almost all rifle ammo can go through that, and your clavicle up to the top of your head are uncovered?

and in any real firefight at close range, someone is going to finish you off to the face once you hit the floor, and at any range or distance when you are hiding behind cover, they are just going to shoot your face?

>>128318646
>machine guns
>compared to anything even a local response team has access to

Good luck getting through those armored cars that even basic city-scale special response teams have access to. :^)

point is, all you can do with a gun is shoot other civilians. The odd cop you could kill won't mean shit on the large scale and certainly won't do anything to install change in public policy.

>>128318917
>I don't care about the increased likelihood of harming myself

Yes because I'm not going to.

>or my children

See that's where your argument becomes a strawman. We weren't talking about murder, we were talking about suicide. So please learn to argue points correctly before responding to me again.

>>128317858
God said so but the state of Maryland says otherwise.

>>128307805
>Hunt for himself
My country is fully urbanised. Nothing to hunt. Also, crime rates are really low where I live.

>>128319194
>crime rates are really low where I live

>surely, they'll never come here, r-right?
>and, well, statistically it's unlikely, so what does it matter if someone breaks into my house, rape my wife, kill my kid, shit in my toaster and flees?

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>>128319093
>>compared to anything even a local response team has access to
shoot the rear brake booster on a MRAP and render it useless. 50s will punch most armor local LEO use

>>128319113
>doesn't understand why guns are dangerous to children.

Come on anon... for someone in a thread like this, I'd have expected you to have read on this sort of thing at least on some cursory level.

The majority of gun related harm to children within the same home is because THEY get their hands on the gun.

No one goes into buying and keeping a gun with the perception of
>Tee hee I hope my kid gets it and shoots themselves
Everyone -tries- to keep the gun safe, some people are just shit at it.

>b-b-but it's not going to happen to me

Is the most shit argument on the planet. It demonstrably happens to thousands of kids every year.

It's basically a poisson distribution that you're betting against, and that's just demonstrably dumb when the benefits you get are so incredibly minor.

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>>128319514
>some people are shit at it
>So no one should ever own one ever

No, THAT is the most shit argument ever. Never buy your kid a car or let them get a driver's license because they might die in a car accident.

>>128319194
>My country is fully urbanised. Nothing to hunt.
Go to Molembeek, you'll find plenty of game there.

>>128307805

Only manlets obsess about guns so much, as they feel powerless without them

You're still a joke, manlet

>>128319832
>Only beelets obsess about stings so much, as they feel powerless without them.

>You're still a joke, beelets.

>>128319832
This. If it's not a katana it's not a real weapon.

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>>128319092
Most trained people are going to shoot at center mass. A tourniquet and compression bandage can prolong your life from extremities getting hit. Aside from a protection a plate carrier also lets you carry more gear with fast access.

>>128317855
That horse better not be easily scared by the sound of a firing Mauser.

>>128320083

I have an SKS and a Dagger SAP6 but I don't LARP about one day having to protect my home from those scary gangsters.

Most of the violent altercations I've had I've solved with judo and boxing. Not with a gun.

My guns are there, but I don't think about them.

Only timid, fearful men dwell on such subjects.

>>128319661
Why do you keep ignoring the majority of the posts?

>People get shot or killed by their own guns with a given frequency
>That frequency is higher than the rate at which the gun is used to protect the owner from criminals.

You're basically saying that you're willing to play a dice game in vegas, where you have a sub-50% chance to win $100, or a greater than 50% chance to lose $100. That is -mathematically- unintelligent.

>Comparing to cars
>A device which has the sole purpose of transporting people and things, NOT harming humans (the purpose of a gun)
>This benefit is utilized -daily- in an often mandatory fashion, unless you work from home I guess? Or live close enough to walk?

You... you're trolling aren't you?

>>128319832
>Only manlets obsess about guns so much
Typical betamale low testo nogunz talk.

You'll be among the first to go.

>>128320442
It is not a gamble because I am not suicidal and counting suicides in the statistics of "gun deaths" is intentionally misleading leftist bullshit. Your initial argument is still false so please come back with an actual one.

>>128320491

As I said, I have guns.

But keep thinking you're the tough guy, tiny dancer.

Half men like you are so fucking transparent. It permeates the premise of everything that matters to you.

>>128320751
Well, I am no sure I believe you.
Also, nice reddit spacing.

I'm going to start saving for one next month

>>128320605
>nuh-uh
Pretty limp response man, I'm sorta disappointed.

You're right. Some people own guns totally safely. In fact, most do. If someone came at me with a statistic that over 50% of gun owners hurt themselves I'd be pretty suspicious of that data's authenticity.

What you're basically saying though is: Playing the lottery isn't retarded because maybe -I'll- be the one to win.

We're not talking about -you-, anon. We're talking about people on the whole and against, it is an inarguable statistic that -more- gun owners slip up in their lifetime and have something negative happen to them than there are gun owners that defend themselves from a criminal with that gun.

Of course there are other gun uses, like hunting, which you could use to say: "Hey, I hunt all the time (thus I see a daily benefit from owning this gun)" and that is worth the risk having this gun presents in terms of mishandling it or letting a kid find it.

Sure, you could make that argument and if you live somewhere where you -literally- have to hunt to survive, then that's totally understandable.

Again, remember my first post was:
>Don't live in a time where guns are required to defend yourself from wild animals
>make enough money to buy my food
>Don't live in an area with rampant home invasion crime

Thus, it doesn't make sense for ME to own a gun. I don't know where you live. Maybe you live in some Mad Max waste land where you have to kill roaming bands of criminals daily in order to secure a loaf of bread. If that's the case by all means, have a gun and my sympathy.

Because I am comfortable with the size of my penis.

>>128321036

>Well, I am no sure I believe you.

Of course not, it doesn't serve your precious, fragile, half pint ego. I bet you were half way to the range today before you turned back because you forgot your lifts. Are you even allowed to have a practice range outside of a mosque in france?

>>128307805
I own a gun. Pistol. I fire it regularly and know the safety procedures when firing, transporting and storing. Never had to use it against anyone, and due to a good alarm system and secure home, I probably never will. Guns are cheaper then a properly secure and fenced/walled of house, but with proper security it will likely never go as far as an actual confrontation.

FYI: Never pull a gun on someone unless you intend on actually using it. Threatening with firearms is a meme, as anyone who works in armed security will tell you.

>>128321337
>it is an inarguable statistic that -more- gun owners slip up in their lifetime and have something negative happen to them than there are gun owners that defend themselves from a criminal with that gun.

Link this then.

>>128320230
these kinds of pictures are so cringe

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>>128307805
i live in maryland
a move to va is in the works though
who /ratherbebornin1840/ here?

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>>128319092
body armor is better than no armor.

>hurrr ur armor dont encompass ur entire body so its not worth it!

Great job shitlet

>>128321464
I recommend using google. It's a site you can use to find a bunch of cool links to research data if you're familiar with how it works.

>>128321632
>>hurrr ur armor dont encompass ur entire body so its not worth it!

Yup. The Nirvana Fallacy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_fallacy

>>128321491
please refrain from posting for at least 12 additional months.

>>128321761
Sorry pal, you made the claim and you have to back it up. Since you can't I accept your apology.

i dont want one

>>128321343
>Because I am comfortable with the size of my penis.
If only your wife were

>>128321853
>get btfo
>m-m-make me a power point of all the relevant data in the field because I'm too lazy to educate myself

Ya fucked up, bud. Have you forgotten what site you're on?

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Rate

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>>128322222

>>128317068
Because germans are kind of Jews, being total sellouts, selling all of their millitary technology and all their genius for a precious penny they can nibble on.

I say: new tech stays in the country and is only exchanged when a better technology is found to replace the other.

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>>128322202
>Hey most people hurt themselves with their guns
>Ok, can you prove it?
>HA YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME BTFO GET REKTED KID

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>>128319092
>tfw if i could go back in time i'd shake hitlers hand, invest in fake stocks, kill the womens suffrage movement, and save sean taylor

I own two sks's

Better then noguns

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Good goys why don't you own guns? come on post them and prove you have them all of them so we can see what firearms you posses, what are yuo a pussy goy? take a pic and post it now

>>128319832
>>128320403
Shooting is fun.
Go drink bleach, faggot.

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>>128321773
>nirvana fallacy
Tell me how many people aim for the arms and legs, you're thinking with the assumption that the average person-shooter aims for the arm or leg, and i'm wondering why?

>>128320230
no, most trained people seeing an adversary wearing body armor are going to shoot at your gut and pelvis and fuck you up when you hit the floor with face shots

>>128322222
Quad/7

>>128307805

I struggle to legally carry a knife never mind a gun my friend.

>>128316293
low over unders

>>128321337
>it is an inarguable statistic that -more- gun owners slip up in their lifetime
* Guns used 2.5 million times a year in self-defense. Law-abiding citizens use guns to defend themselves against criminals as many as 2.5 million times every year -- or about 6,850 times a day. [1] This means that each year, firearms are used more than 80 times more often to protect the lives of honest citizens than to take lives. [2]

* Of the 2.5 million times citizens use their guns to defend themselves every year, the overwhelming majority merely brandish their gun or fire a warning shot to scare off their attackers. Less than 8% of the time, a citizen will kill or wound his/her attacker.[3]

* As many as 200,000 women use a gun every year to defend themselves against sexual abuse.[4]

* Even anti-gun Clinton researchers concede that guns are used 1.5 million times annually for self-defense. According to the Clinton Justice Department, there are as many as 1.5 million cases of self-defense every year. The National Institute of Justice published this figure in 1997 as part of "Guns in America" -- a study which was authored by noted anti-gun criminologists Philip Cook and Jens Ludwig.[5]

* Armed citizens kill more crooks than do the police. Citizens shoot and kill at least twice as many criminals as police do every year (1,527 to 606).[6] And readers of Newsweek learned that "only 2 percent of civilian shootings involved an innocent person mistakenly identified as a criminal. The 'error rate' for the police, however, was 11 percent, more than five times as high."[7]

* Handguns are the weapon of choice for self-defense. Citizens use handguns to protect themselves over 1.9 million times a year.

http://www.gunowners.org/sk0802htm.htm

>>128323595
Quints

>>128322222
quints checked

>>128323542
Your point is? shit happens in an instant. Why do you hate body armor so much?

>>128323542
KEK. Go back to csgo kid

>>128323848
BTFO
T
F
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HOW WILL HE EVER RECOVER?

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as a poorfag let me give this thread some advice
if you come across a gun for less than 300$ buy it. its a simple rule and youre eventually gonna get a steal on something.
so far I've gotten a
30 30 marlin back when marlins where great
.22 marlin 60
.38 S&W 10
Mav 88
as far as poorfag arsenals go its pretty standard. but I got a handgun. I got a shotgun. and I got enough ammo for a decent half a day firefight.
>all I fucking want is another revolver, a 9mm steyr handgun, and a M1A socom or M14 variant but thats thousands and thousands of dollars away

if all you have is a .22 youre better armed than a good chunk of the populace.
DONT EVER LET anyone dissuade you fom buying a .22 handgun. it's not gonna stop a T rex but its gonna save your life. any gun at all is better than no gun and a suit of armor and 4 thousand dollar sword and shield.
>had to sell my colt gold cup 45 because of my small hands though
whatever your comfortable with guys. I'd suggest everyone ITT at least get a maverick 88. cheap as they come and reliable.

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>>128307805

>>128324566
like Hillary, he never had a chance

>>128324978
I love SKS's

My dad has an old chinese one that really nice condition and I have a unissued yugo (sadly no chrome, oh well)

>>128307805

Owning a gun?

No one will take you seriously if you own only one gun.

You need a minimum of four guns. Two handguns, one semiauto carbine/rifle and one shotgun.

Minimum of 200 rounds per handguns, 500-1000 for the long gun, 500 shells for the shotgun, majority being slugs and buckshot.

>>128307805
Because boating accidents happen

>>128325398
I live in an apartment so I mostly have #4. I don't want to use slugs caused I'd rather not kill my next door neighbors.

Getting a gun is too much hassle. It's also expensive.

I sleep with a large kitchen knife, but I have a large lead pipe next to my bed.

>if people can't own guns suddenly there will be no violent crimes
I read police news and belive me people get creative.
>Using your prescription medicine and overdose your neighbor and cover it up as alcohol poisioning
>Most common in homicide cases is the knife
>Second place is blunt force trauma caused by blunt weapons
>third place is blunt force trauma, as in beating people to death

Well thanks socialism, I can only use "equal amount" when I get attacked.

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I have an M1903 in the process of being restored and a DDM4V7 on layaway

sooooon

>>128307805
But I am from burgerstan of course I have guns

>>128325374

Mine is a chinese paratrooper version, short barrel loud as fugg

>>128314459
>>128313892
Germany wasn't disarmed after WW2 but way later.

>We had no gun laws whatsover until 1920
>Then we got the single most strictes gun law of the time
>in 1935 germany got a way more liberal gun law, unless you wasn't a kike or a slav you could own and carry a gun (even negroids, what is somewhat interesting)
>In Post WW2 it was a state thing, some states such as western Berlin or Lower saxony had strict gun laws while other such as NRW or Bavaria had fairly liberal gun laws, Bavaria in fact was more liberal than most US States.
>in 1972 we got our first strict gun law on a federal level
>now those already tight rules get worse every 10 years or so, last time in 2009 and now again

>>128326565
>*was a kike or a slav

They're a waste of money unless you live on land that you can shoot on. Shooting is expensive, and I'm not gonna drop a few hundred bucks on something that I only use once a month or so.

>>128307805
hunting and fighting is for cavemen

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Not at least owning a A E S T H E T I C lever action in a cartridge large enough to drop a deer or moose.

>>128307805
Moved out on my own 4 months ago, only have one so far
Plan on having 4 eventually, plus maybe a crate of SKS's so I can share with friends if need be

>>128310461

Enfield.

You need to relive the mad minute with your crew. Know what it feels like to strike fear into the heart of your enemies when they see an Englishman with a rifle.

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>>128315241

It's insanely expensive and for that money you could get an LMT

Generally speaking a piston likely won't be advantageous to you as a semi firing civilian, not worth the added weight on the front, and the added moving parts/reciprocating mass

But they are good guns if you want to drop like 3 grand

Gonna get one as soon as I have a home to defend.

>>128323848
>Guns were used in 11,078 homicides
This is obviously greater than number of self defense cases, as they are used aggressively as well.

>Firearms were used in 19,392 suicides in the U.S. in 2010, constituting almost 62% of all gun deaths.10
Already more than were used in two party gun violence interactions, though we cannot say how many of these would have been prevented if a gun hadn't been present. Undoubtedly some would have gone through with it anyway. However, it's important to note that:
>Over 50% of all suicides are committed with a firearm.

>almost 3,800 people in the U.S. died from unintentional shootings.
That's almost -40%- of ALL two party gun crime, which as we recall, only a fraction of which is in defense of a home (or any sort of self defense)

Of those:
>almost half of all victims of unintentional shootings for the period 2005–2010 were under 25 years of age.

Sources compiled in: WISQARS Injury Mortality Reports, 1999-2010, supra note 1.

None of this even takes into account how the presence of weapons escalates a dangerous situation into a MORE dangerous one. Not to mention gun crime in general is made more possible as a result of the ease of acquisition all people have to them.

You have -literal- evidence of these changes in practice:

In a peer-reviewed paper published by American Law and Economics Review 2012, researchers Andrew Leigh of Australian National University and Christine Neill of Wilfrid Laurier University found that in the decade following the NFA, firearm homicides (both suicides and intentional killings) in Australia had dropped significantly

>Pro tip if you don't follow up on that: Gun crime, injuries, deaths, and -general suicide rates- of almost 50%. Gun specific suicides declined by 80%

Anon. As I've said over and over. If you happen to live in a shit hole where you must fight daily for your very survival, you're absolutely entitled to a gun. On a societal level however, it demonstrably doesn't make sense.

>>128327851
>None of this even takes into account how the presence of weapons escalates a dangerous situation into a MORE dangerous one.

Yes, for the criminal. Which is a good thing.

>>128328155
you're not Rambo

>>128307805
got a 12 gauge shotgun and a .380 pistol, shotgun for home defence and the pistol for keeping in my car

>>128322421
Why not just sell it to burgers who can legally own it, instead of keeping it in a state that sort of wants you to die off?

>>128327323
I'm just shopping around, thank you anon.

>>128327851
>Guns were used in 11,078 homicides
This is obviously greater than number of self defense cases,
Guns used 2.5 million times a year in self-defense
>Common core fag

>Firearms were used in 19,392 suicides
ZERO fucks to give if someone want to exit

>in Australia
fewer citizens than Texas

>>128310676

Damn straight.

>>128328534
I don't need to be and never claimed I was. But that nigger who tried to break into my house was stopped all the same.

I bet none of you would have a gun if you would be a german citizen. You are just lucky that you were born in a country with a constitution that allows you to have guns.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not hating. But if you are pro-guns in America you might find like-minded people, if you are pro-guns in Germany someone will call the police.
You cannot do this shit alone, you need a like-minded society.

>>128327851
>This is obviously greater than number of self defense cases, as they are used aggressively as well.

Wrong

>firearm homicides (both suicides and intentional killings) in Australia had dropped significantly

The Czech republic used to be the most dangerous country in all of Europe, they had a homicide rate of 5.7 in 1994, after that they both legalised owning and carrying firearms, since than it is one of the safest european nations and all of the world. in 2015 only one country in europe had a lower homicide rate: Switzerland, the country where gun ownership is mandatory

>>128327851
>almost 3,800 people in the U.S. died from unintentional shootings.

And even Terrorist and cop killers can make these list

Bloomberg group names Tsarnaev, Dorner as gun violence victims

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/20/bloomberg-group-names-tsarnaev-dorner-gun-violence/

>>128329940
You can own firearms in germany, i do.
It is a pain in the ass since you need a hunting license or need to do active sport shooting, but you can.

And yes, some people wont like it, fuck them. if they cant accept that you own a certain objects they wont be friends at any points anyway

>>128328155
This point isn't made often enough imo. I tend to cringe at the muh tactical LARPers almost more than the libshit gun-grabbers these days. But those Dana Loesch/James Yeager types make an effort to inform the public of these incidents of self defense that rarely make it past local news, if they even make the news. Stories like that usually just become another statistic that cucked nogunners never pay attention to.

>>128329573
you'll die too

live by the sword etc

>>128318607
Nigga I'd hit you with a 22 and take all your shit.

>>128332117
Well I didn't. People with out swords can still die by them.

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i own several, as well as knives.

>>128309985
fuck you

>>128307805
I had a series of unfortunate boating accidents. Truly, a tragedy.

>>128332245
aren't you lucky?

you're still not rambo

>>128333418
And I'm still not claiming I am. What is your argument supposed to be by repeating that over and over?

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>>128333418

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I could but if I kill someone I'll go to jail my fucking state sucks

>>128325719

>sees and treats neighbors as fellow human beings

Surely hope you don't do this.

>>128333566
the situation is dangerous for you

if you use a gun the situation becomes worse, and you are included in the potential victims

you are a danger to yourself and others

>>128334900
If someone breaks into my house it is dangerous for me regardless. If I have a gun it is more dangerous for them and thus less dangerous for me. How can you not comprehend this?

>>128335026
>criminal sees unarmed resident
>threatens you verbally

>criminal sees armed resident
>shoots right away

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>>128334900
>if you use a gun the situation becomes worse,

What a delusional fukwit

>>128310676
I live in Manhattan -- just got my licenses, a 10/22 takedown and a .357 revolver. Will be getting a shotgun and a 9mm semiautomatic once the waiting periods elapse. Bloomberg and his kike friends can fuck themselves.

>>128335779
if you kill your enemies you are a murderer and become the enemy yourself

>>128335405
Thank you for demonstrating that you don't understand how criminals work at all.

>>128335405

>criminals sees armed resident, shits pants and run

>criminals sees unarmed residents, commences criminal behavior

You's not knowings of how criminals is of actings.

>>128329940
shut your fuckin hole Kraut cuck--if you were a man you'd go through the tests and paperwork to get one it's no different than Canada, ur just a pussy

>>128335920

There's a difference between killing in defense of self and murder.

Danes don't understand this because they do not differentiate between the two.

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But I do, fellow white man
I own a gun that has actually slayed many Africans, how many of you can say the same?

>>128334900
>if you use a gun the situation becomes worse
Then why do countries like czechia or switzerland extremly low amount of people dying in a confrontation?

In the UK home invasions end up 4 times more deadly for the vicitm than in Switzerland

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>>128336462
if you don't have a gun you don't have to use lethal force

american psychopaths don't understand proportional force and non-escalation

>>128335920
Boy are you going to be a fun one to rape and pillage if shit ever does go down. Stock up on supplies

>>128336501

So you're a hunter?

>>128336698
because they don't have many confrontations in the first place

if you normalized the death rates by the amount of confrontations you'd probably see some shit

>>128336737
Right, you just get murdered instead.

>>128336026
Hey Lois, remember the time a thief robbed a store where everyone was armed? https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2eb_1496309988

>>128328535
no offense but also get a rifle--AR-15 will do--and a basic 1-4x optic or red dot. beats a shotgun or handgun every time if you have to shoot at something over 50 yards

>>128336737
says the fag who lets his daughter get fucked by sand niggers

>>128336737
Why would you not want to use any means necessary to defend yourself when your life is at stake, because it can be at any moment and it's not within your control

If someone stabs or rapes you you wish you had a 9mm on you, because what is the harm in having one on you? Do you not personally trust yourself to carry a gun and not shoot yourself in the leg? Well if you don't that's too bad for you, but I'm not a retard and I'd feel perfectly safe carrying a gun

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>>128337068

Sweet justice.

>>128336501
look at that smooth lady's arm. i bet if i put you in a dress you'd be a good slober slut.

>>128312661
That pic... Humanity is well and truly fucked

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>>128335405
>>128336737
>criminals are reasonable here

I think this is b8. Trudeau tier b8.

>>128309860
What have YOU done to lobby for firearms freedom?

Oh, I forgot. All Bongs do is grovel before whoever happens to be in power.

The only people even close to your country with balls are the IRA and friends. They actually kill their enemies. You should learn from them.

If your politicians support Muslims, kill the politicians. If your people support Muslims, kill them. Never stop. Sooner or later you'll win.

>>128336737

Lethal force in defense of life is necessary.

The idea of proportional force is utopian bullshit only spouted off by delusional morons. There's no way to reliably measure "proportional force".

You can print up a sheet detailing your capability and only ask a criminal of equal or lesser physical status to break in.

>>128309974
Muslims, and niggers, aren't people.

>>128337325
It's either a literal woman or b8 posting. There is no other way.

>>128337068

Yes sweetie, I do.

How's mom, Hannah?

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I live in Massachusetts, which is a faggot state, and it is difficult to get them here. There is essentially a whitelist of weapons which can be bought, and the liberal lesbian cunt attorney general gets to be the arbiter of that list.

>>128337229
>cucknadian opening his mouth

>>128337727
try and use that one with st. peter, I'm sure he'll let you in

>>128336737

>danecuck

daily reminder that all of Denmark is rightful German clay

>>128310461
Bolt actions are underrated. Ask Simo Hayek.

>>128338190
keep dreaming hans, once merkel is done with you we'll reintegrate prussia

>>128337852
oh sweetie wheaty sugar plum... (-‸ლ)

>>128310471
Lame b8. Self and wife have both deterred potential assailants with our firearms, and not had to shoot them. The Kleck study and others indicate that LAWFUL use of firearms in self-defense usually doesn't require pulling the trigger. Do your homework you silly cunt.

Have some right to carry while you are at it. I can do this all day.

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20120228/right-to-carry-2012

>>128335863
The 10/22 is one of my favourites in my collection. I got a 25 round mag and I generally shoot hollow-points.

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Picked up this cutie last month dirt cheap. Next a shotgun, than a rifle and I think I'll be set.
>captcha has London Bridge
LOL

>>128338876
hey someone who isn't a psycho

there's still the simple fact that any non-retarded assailant knows that gun on gun reaction time is all that matters, you're still creating an unfortunate standoff for yourself and others around you

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>>128338791

>reintegrate prussia
>while not having weapons

>>128311193
>Every fighting rifle should have an optic.

Before optics nobody hit anything or anyone with boolits. It was simply unpossible even by accident.