Cameras in Houses Are a Good Idea

why would you want to stop suicides?

>>128304377

Please make the argument for the loss of privacy in exchange for a slight drop in Suicide?

>>128304592
If you nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.

>>128304532
It's illegal, do you not want the law to be enforced? If so you're just another leftist SJW who believes laws should be selectivily enforced.

>>128304592
>suicide, the leading cause of death of millenials drops to 0%
>all it takes is minor loss of privacy since only autists are too embarassed to be seen in their own home.

How is that not a good deal?

this is a pretty good shtiposting thread OP mind if I save this thread to use for later?

>>128304377
Now we will be able to hunt down those ukipers and climate deniers

>>128304711
Please post your email ID, password, all the login details of your social media along with your address, IP address and a bunch of nudes of your wife/girlfriend along with her bull.

You surely have nothing to hide, so you shouldn't be having anything to fear.

>>128305072
No problem man

>>128304857
I don't think it should be illegal, are you some statist cuck that believes we shouldn't be allowed to have opinions without the state's consent?

>>128304377

>cameras are the only way suicide can be stopped.

And if I spray paint over the camera in my smoke alarm?

>>128305235
You're not the government, Pajeet.

>>128305235
You're a random person on the international network of webpages (smart people talk for internet). Trusting your government with it is different than a random person especially when you have the most trusted and powerful government on earth.

>>128304377
>Yeah we're just gonna install these cameras all over your house
>And hire a bunch of people to watch them 24/7
>No I swear we will only use them to stop suicides

LEAF

>>128305291
Everyone deserves an opinion. I don't know what you are talking about, no i support the constitution.

>>128305365
Then the government will know something is up and send a policeman and camera repair to your house ASAP.

>>128305547
This is the problem with /pol/, we can't discuss real solutions to real problems without conspiracy leaking into the discussion.

>>128305572

But I'd already be dead.

>>128305572
>Then the government will know something is up and send a policeman and camera repair to your house ASAP.

Meanwhile someone is being robbed or raped or some other heinous crime

>oh shit guys his camera's down, we gotta get on this

>>128304532
Because the fucking libtards wants to remove the only way out of their shitty dystopian system. This is 8 anyways, sage.

File: Untitled.png (58KB, 251x151px) Image search: [Google]

58KB, 251x151px

>>128305572
I'm literally asking you to provide a reasonable statement as to why you believe "we" as a society should prevent people from killing themselves.

Remember not to include any logical fallacies please!

>>128304377
Uh, it's called a smart phone and it's already in your house, monitoring you.

>>128305673
No you wouldn't. The moment the camera goes black they come to your house. You can't commit suicide that fast and if it is attempted it will most likley fail.

>>128305731
The majority of state police forces are big enough to stop two crimes at the same time burger.

>>128305902

>No you wouldn't. The moment the camera goes black they come to your house

So not only do you want cameras, you expect people to be on call on every single block, at all times?

>>128305902
>malfunctioning camera
>crime

Do you enjoy being alive?

>>128305797
*b8
Regardless britbongs here is a real thread you should be looking at:
>>>>>>>>128304150

>>128304532
Destruction of government property.

>>128305797
Enjoy ban

>>128305805
Because society is about protecting human life. Suicide is murder.

>>128305864
Uh smartphones can easily be thrown a a drawer and the government won't question it. With these cameras the governmnent will always be able to watch you.

>>128304532
this

>>128304377
>leaf
the more you guys kill yourselves the better

File: Pyramidz.jpg (159KB, 1000x667px) Image search: [Google]

159KB, 1000x667px

>>128304377

All you have to do to Rule is keep the Public....

Distracted,Docile,Domesticated,Disciplined & Dumb.


http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/subject/knowledge%20bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/

>>128306010
Well I'm thinking of having each house be designed so one camera can always see them. And when your outside you are with others so suicide is hard.

>>128306014
Nice strawman

>>128306026
Get out troll

>>128306082
Government doesn't care about property it cares about life.

>>128306082
Dark but true

>>128306099

>With these cameras the governmnent will always be able to watch you.

Well that's the fun part about it, innit?

So will I.

File: Pyramid.jpg (65KB, 600x600px) Image search: [Google]

65KB, 600x600px

>>128306201
>>128304377

Also(and this is very important from a Control stand point)...

Dependent.

File: 1470874948067.jpg (44KB, 682x518px) Image search: [Google]

44KB, 682x518px

>>128306082

I didn't think it be like it is, but it do.

>>128306245
>Government doesn't care about property it cares about life.

Ours doesn't

File: Untitled.png (58KB, 240x145px) Image search: [Google]

58KB, 240x145px

>>128306099
tut tut tut, I'll give you one more chance before I abandon thread. the fact that you implied that you're a "smart" person is honestly irksome.

>>128306082
top kek

>>128306099
>society is about protecting human life.
No it isn't. Society is about making itself bigger. Suicides weed out defective units and make the whole stronger.

File: 1496455444049.png (570KB, 720x875px) Image search: [Google]

570KB, 720x875px

>>128306340
Eyy frankie boi

>>128306319
I don't know what you are talking about,. Please educate me

>>128306379
Then why does your government spend nearly 100% of its annual budget trying to prevent life from dying.

>>128306435
>Literally every argument ever is a fallacy
Fuck off.

>>128306556

Do you think NSA is the only one who can open a cam port?

Oh, my dear leaf.

>>128306245
>Government doesn't care about property it cares about life.
Then why hasn't the government killed every last chink, nigger, and street shitter? They're the biggest threats to everyone else's life.

>>128306460
Then why do all sucessful suicides work day and night to prevent suicide?

File: image.jpg (39KB, 299x346px) Image search: [Google]

39KB, 299x346px

>>128306340
Explain the damn spine beetles.

>>128306665
You can't

>>128306690
*countries

>>128306690

>Then why do all sucessful suicides work day and night to prevent suicide?

You mean failures? It's obviously because they couldn't do it.

>>128306556
>Then why does your government spend nearly 100% of its annual budget trying to prevent life from dying.

See >>128306082

They don't care about our lives, they care about our holdings

File: 1471663569540.png (8KB, 473x500px) Image search: [Google]

8KB, 473x500px

>>128306733

>>128306556
>Then why does your government spend nearly 100% of its annual budget trying to prevent life from dying.
Doing so creates jobs and increases GDP, padding the statistics for the next election or fund drive.

File: Untitled.png (64KB, 254x169px) Image search: [Google]

64KB, 254x169px

>>128306638
No just the ones that you employ, apparently

good luck with your troll thread, faggot

>>128306822
Except the goverment could easily replace anyone, why do they spend so much money preventing suicides?

>>128306851
What colour hair do i have.

These pinko posters are doing a mini raid. Maybe just one guy. The 'ol "any exposure is good exposure" trick. Can't wait till the purge again just like in times past. There will be no mercy for your ilk, even if a few slip into the shadows again.

>>128304592
Please make the argument that cameras in homes would mean a slight drop, instead of a great leap, in suicides

>>128305403
>>128305449

I'll bite the bait,

Why do you want the government to spy its own citizens? The government is still made up of a bunch of other humans who are motivated by greed, power and their own agendas.

There's governments that work for the good of their own people, like Trump's government and then there's governments like Macron's government that allies with other foreign entities that want destruction, and actively work against the benefit and well being of their own nation and its people by genociding the native population and replacing them with subhuman foreigners.


/r/The_Donald/comments/69lspq/serious_macron_plans_for_islamization_of_france/


Why should such a government that wants to replace its own people be given such power to spy their own citizens?

They too are humans who are after their own goals, and any citizen who could be threatening to their goals or power will be labelled as a enemy of state and eliminated.

Cameras that monitor people 24/7 in houses will straight up lead to a dystopia where the government can never be questioned, challenged or opposed.

>>128306870
>creates jobs
Why doesn't the government just buy a bunch of houses, plow them down, and then rebuild them to create jobs?

> increases GDP
Not a good thing

>padding the statistics for the next election or fund drive.
It bankrupts the country, wouldn't a leader that makes the country richer do it?

>>128306875
>anecodatal fallacy
>learning things based on experience is a fallacy
Holy shit you are a horrible troll

>>128306943
>why do they spend so much money preventing suicides?

What money are you talking about?

The only institute that has anything to do with suicide is the national suicide prevention hotline

I am not aware of any other government program against suicide

>>128306992
Funny since what im saying is exactly what 1950s American ideology was

>>128307062
Your troll has failed, no one is responding

>>128306690
>>128306763
1. inertia from when everyone with a telephone was white
2. women and unemployed drug addicts are allowed to vote
3. suicide prevention is a no-skill job
4. you can't draw credit if you're dead

>>128306943

>What colour hair do i have.

Dark brown, it used to annoy you.

I also know you're not Canadian.

>>128307153
>Federal Prisons
>Every police force
>Military
>Military prisons
>State prisons
>Jails
>Firefighters
>Any medical institution ever

>>128307320
If unemployed drug addicts really did have any influence they would kick out any politician that worked to prevent suicides.

>suicide prevention is a no-skill job
HAHAHA, you need to go to med-school to know how to forcefeed properly FYI

>>128307334
How did you do that? And tell me more about me this is either a major coincidence or you are a hacker.

File: unnamed (1).jpg (63KB, 333x442px) Image search: [Google]

63KB, 333x442px

>>128307262
>literally posted just 2 fucking minutes ago
>legit question with valid points


"Hurrr durr troll"

Kys commie fag.

>>128307262
Only the red scare. Mcarthy was right, if you don't weed out every commie in your midst, it WILL bite you in the ass later. No American citizen wanted more govt, only the Government wanted more so it would stay in power. A competent, homogenous people don't need "big brother".

>>128307342
Oh yeah because all those things are for preventing suicide

You do realize that in a federal prison, the government of the state that owns the prison receives like ~$80 per day per prisoner? Untaxed of course.

The prisons in america are wealth accumulators.
With the absence of one body, they need only find one more

>>128307542

Who needs cameras when you can enter people's minds?

File: 1477540548556.jpg (287KB, 1280x1152px) Image search: [Google]

287KB, 1280x1152px

>>128304377
>>128304857
>wanting to stop people from having a choice over their own life
You're a totalitarian. Plain and simple.

>>128307098
>Why doesn't the government just buy a bunch of houses, plow them down, and then rebuild them to create jobs?
because the government is mostly white people and not Chinese

>> increases GDP
>Not a good thing
Not necessarily, but it makes politicians look good. Normies aren't going to read about economics.

>It bankrupts the country, wouldn't a leader that makes the country richer do it?
Our currency is based on debt. The debt will literally never be paid off and there is no reason to ever run a surplus. Unless (until) some madman decides to cancel the debt or the world banking system implodes, the only purpose of talking about "the economy" is to look smart to the kind of retard who watches TV.

>>128307142
he's right, you're just an idiot.
Also what you just did was a strawman i think.

>>128307561
>legit questions
>talking about some white genocide conspiracy theory

Please tell me you have cancer

>>128307581
Actually it was Small-Government Conservative lawmakers who passed to make suicide illegal in the 1950s. LOL. And besides McCarthy never went after communists thats the biggest myths of the 20th century. He went after Russian influenced politicians.

>>128307598
Yeah sure totally, even though in Canada where prisons are non-private suicide prevention is going on 24/7

>>128307646
How is that possible?

>>128304377
This would make gore threads a daily thing nice thinking op

>>128308097

>How is that possible?

Ask Tavistock. They were the last ones with my files afaik.

>>128307965
You're right. I was thinking of things from a perspective of if the government was efficient and actually trying to increase wealth. But what you did say was true

>>128308026
No hes not right, you're dumb

>>128308097
They worked for the bigger picture. You should research the occultists who have been putting things together since Babylon.
As for Mcarthy, a Russian influenced politician is very likely to be influenced by cultural Marxism even if only a little. They must be stamped out.

>>128307542
You don't need to know dick to work at a suicide hotline.
>HAHAHA, you need to go to med-school to know how to forcefeed properly FYI
Bullshit. You need to go to med school to get a license to allow you to forcefeed legally. It's not a particularly complicated task.

>If unemployed drug addicts really did have any influence they would kick out any politician that worked to prevent suicides.
Or, you know, they'd vote for more welfare and methadone clinics so they could continue to be unemployed drug addicts.

>>128308442
>Mccarthy, a Russian influenced politician is very likely to be influenced by cultural Marxism even if only a little. They must be stamped out.

Most communists are high-schoolers. McCarthy did not give a crap about any of them.

>>128304857
>If so you're just another leftist SJW who believes laws should be selectivily enforced.

wew subtle

>>128308097
>it was Small-Government Conservative lawmakers who passed to make suicide illegal in the 1950s.
Back in the 50s, everyone was white, so it made a lot more sense to try and take care of each other. Not anymore :^)

>>128304711
I do have things to hide. I don't want the government watching me while I jack off or take a shit or something.

>>128308487
>You don't need to know dick to work at a suicide hotline.

I've been in a mental ward. Everyone there was either a nurse or some crazy ass PHD doctor

>Bullshit. You need to go to med school to get a license to allow you to forcefeed legally. It's not a particularly complicated task.

Doesn't matter, the fact is the government only employs med grads for that task

>Or, you know, they'd vote for more welfare and methadone clinics so they could continue to be unemployed drug addicts.
They don't want to be unemployed tho. THey want to get jobs.

>>128308557
Nonsense, have you watched Yuri Bezmanov? Researched tricks of infiltration in the US by communist sympathizers that are still here even today? They aren't high schoolers, those are the drones.

>>128308837

Some of them.

Some of them just want to do drugs as their job.

>>128304857
>minor loss of privacy
>being watched at all times

>>128308780
My grandparents weren't white. Most people in the town were but still

>>128308834
>being this autistic
I grew up in a poor area ok? The highschool I went to didn't even have stalls, did that stop me from taking a shit? No, because only autists care about being watched while that stuff happens.

>>128305624
>Leaf thinks that the government watching you in your house 24/7 isn't ripe for abuse.
Trolls should only go so far.

>>128308958
Well my point is McCarthy only cared about high-up commies it's not like he cared about thought-crime.

>>128304711
>If you nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.
That's not the law in America. That's the most fucked philosophy I've ever heard.

>>128304377
>oh you wanna kill yourself? here is a $938429 fine so we can make your life even more miserable

>>128309122
>troll says that the government will magically become evil
Bad troll, bad

>>128309409
There's no fine involved you just go to jail.

>>128309115
>The Leaf wants some bureaucrat watching him fuck his girlfriend
Come on, at least try.

>>128307770

Say what is wrong with a totalitarian regime?
Just play by the rules or be intelligent enough to evade them if you want to and your fine.

KILL ALL FUCKING LEAFS

File: 1463110169105.jpg (96KB, 630x581px) Image search: [Google]

96KB, 630x581px

>>128309529

>him

>>128309506
The government has the POTENTIAL to be evil, and that's all that matters. People didn't think Mao and Stalin were going to kill millions either, but here we are. Power corrupts, and being able to see what someone is doing in their own homes would give the government a lot of power.

>>128309214
He took what he could get a hold of. They spread to fast to catch them all. Bezmanov warned about this, bless his soul.
No sane individual wants an omnipotent, omniscient government. I work for them, and let me tell you, if you let those incompetent bastards have an inch, they'll take a mile. It's a group of people like you or me, with aspirations of greed and power tacked on top. Just like the mods of this website, or any website. They get a taste of power, then can't get enough.

>>128308837
>They don't want to be unemployed tho. THey want to get jobs.
>implying
Most homeless people are either fully insane or homeless on purpose.

>Doesn't matter, the fact is the government only employs med grads for that task
Look, force feeding is not exactly the same as suicide prevention. The reason protesting prisoners are forcefed is so their families won't sue the state. The same applies to forcefeeding of hospital patients; the hospital and the doctors don't want to get sued. Neither situation has any relation at all to the idea of putting cameras in everyone's houses.

File: 1445719054669.png (309KB, 2300x940px) Image search: [Google]

309KB, 2300x940px

>>128309647
Nothing.
OP just needs to be honest with himself.

>>128309529
>implying i have a girlfriend or have ever fucked someone or even want to
Come on, at least try

>>128309757
>comparing america to stalin
Bait

>>128309656
Sorry
>xer

>>128309115
>My grandparents weren't white.
Nonwhite "people" existed. It's a figure of speech, you stupid fucking shitskin. Go back, Canada is Anglo clay.

>>128309855
>I don't have a girlfriend, so no one else in the whole country does
I'm sure you're only pretending to be retarded.
>Bait
Yes, just like this whole thread you moronic leaf. Nobody thinks America is going to become a despotic state, but nobody thought a billionaire reality TV star was going to be President. Crazy shit happens.

>>128305365
It's not in your smoke alarm, it's in your television or phone. There was a piece on the news not too long ago about how they can turn on camera's built into computers, laptops, smart televisions and phones. Spooky stuff.

>>128309781
You work for the government?

>>128309786
>Look, force feeding is not exactly the same as suicide prevention. The reason protesting prisoners are forcefed is so their families won't sue the state. The same applies to forcefeeding of hospital patients; the hospital and the doctors don't want to get sued. Neither situation has any relation at all to the idea of putting cameras in everyone's houses.
Thing is. If someone wanted to commit suicide what they could do is just refuse to eat. Without forcefeeding suicide is literally the easiest thing. That's why I know so much about forcefeeding, besides without cameras in houses what's to stop someone from not eating for weeks?

>>128304377
Fuck off leaf. They already have cameras in your house

>>128310147
>nobody thought a billionaire reality TV star was going to be president
Even though you knew that since 2015, but of course your trolling and merley pretending to be retarded

>>I don't have a girlfriend, so no one else in the whole country does
So why should i care if someone else watches some other couple fuck?

File: Mark_Speight.jpg (11KB, 250x279px) Image search: [Google]

11KB, 250x279px

>>128304377
>Suicide
>Over Everything else you can be doing.
Survalance in your own home is fucking wrong lad.
You'll be arrested for jacking off "In front of the Cameras".

>>128304377
>Living miserable life in bongistan
>can't even end it of your own will

Sounds like the most cucked existence imaginable.

>>128304377
Happy to be sageing the worst thread on 4chan you disgusting chink

>>128310252
Don't want to say too much but the air force. It sucks and it's filled to the brim with cultural marxism now. Figures since it's mostly paper pushers or mechanics. They know what positions to put their little chess pieces in too. Got a jew as the new top General too. Goldfein.

>>128310385
Well maybe people should stop masturbating.

>>128310252
Why would you not jump from a high place, step in front of traffic/a train, electrocute yourself, poison yourself, shoot yourself, hang yourself, slit your wrists, slit your throat, suffocate/drown yourself, or end your life in almost any other way than starving yourself? Starvation is one of the few methods you could choose that would be preventable with the use of a surveillance camera in your house. And barely anyone would think to try it anyway.

>>128310828
Why is it mostly paper pushes and mechanics?

>>128310807
Enjoy your ban then

>>128310464
If you think existance is miserable that's depression there's medication for that.

>>128310217

There was a mic built into an electric shaver I had too (emitted EMF with no battery in it).

Being able to hear that shit is a curse.

It's one of those things where I can't not know, even if I want to.

File: Selection_831.png (138KB, 375x274px) Image search: [Google]

138KB, 375x274px

>>128310876
Maybe...

>>128304377
Fuck you dude. Its my life. Just let me down now rather than later

>>128311166
That's all there is to do, you're either filing papers, spreadsheets, documents, etc, or working on aircraft, munitions, and related fields. We have techies for networks and cyber related stuff, but that's to support the first two. Then there's "battlefeild" airmen which is just a few minor squadrons. Pilots and any officers aren't what I'd call the "force"of the air force, just a pool of militarized DoD professionals. Might as well wear a suit instead of a uniform.

>>128311025
Because you can't do any of those methods in jail or a medical institution. The point is they find people who may commit suicide and lock them up and isolate them so they can;t.

>>128311446
I like that idea.

>>128311166
>If you think existance is miserable that's depression there's medication for that.

>Stop thinking those thoughts goy, only think what we want. Here's a pill

Just because you have a label to describe the state of mind doesn't mean it's your decision to replace it with something else.

File: checkinroaches.jpg (123KB, 750x1024px) Image search: [Google]

123KB, 750x1024px

>>128311688

>>128311642

In many instances, your desire to save people from themselves will alienate many, causing them to pursue paths (out of contrarian alienation) you were trying to close to begin with.

It is not as simple as you make it sound.

People don't want to be told when it's okay to live or die.

>>128311764
The thing is people with mental problems can't make the decision since they have a chemical imbalance which makes the wrong choice for them.

>>128311945
It doesn't matter what they want, what matters is they are safe.

>>128311982
>makes the wrong choice

Fuck off globalist kike. Everybody has a particular brain chemistry. It's not your place to decide what the right chemistry is.

>>128312041

>It doesn't matter what they want

And thus is revealed, the crux of your entire mentality.

>>128311642
>The point is they find people who may commit suicide and lock them up and isolate them so they can;t.
But they can't catch everyone. Men especially will make an effort to mask their intentions and get the suicide over with quickly, but lots of suicides are done with little or no warning.

>>128312041
Why? What if they really suck?

>>128312160
That's Marxist talk. There are objective brain chemical balances. If someone has wayyyy to much of a certain chemical they have an issue, otherwise no. If someone commits suicide they obviously have the incorrect brain chemistry.

>>128312331
Them put polygraphs in every house and make everyone use it for an hour when they get home.

>>128304377
suicide should be legal. You don't own them, who the fuck are you to say they shouldn't be allowed to die?

>>128312520
All humans are valuable.

>>128304377
cameras wont stop anyone who wants to kill

>>128312607
I never said that was me, it's the government and medical association and institution that says that.

File: theniggest.jpg (60KB, 912x1140px) Image search: [Google]

60KB, 912x1140px

>>128312610
>

>>128312768
He has red in his eyes he looks like hes suffering actually.

so people will just have to kill themselves outside or...?

cops don't respond that quickly anyway so it wouldn't make much of a difference

loss of privacy isn't worth the very few deaths that would prevent and suicide is a choice people should be free to make

File: 1413022857782.png (33KB, 445x640px) Image search: [Google]

33KB, 445x640px

>>128312576
>Them put polygraphs in every house and make everyone use it for an hour when they get home.
I don't think that would work the way you think it would.

>>128312576
>If someone has wayyyy to much of a certain chemical they have an issue, otherwise no.
This is arbitrary though. Obviously there's a point at which the brain stops functioning, and that's not arbitrary... but if the person is a conscious agent, then he can choose for himself.

>>128312576
>If someone commits suicide they obviously have the incorrect brain chemistry.

If someone can choose to commit suicide, they obviously have functioning brain chemistry.

>>128304532
fpbp

>>128312610
Prove it.

>>128312861
Good, he's a nigger.

>>128313098
Cops can make it to your house with sirens on in under 60 seconds. That's how long it took from the time they called to when they put the phone down. And yeah life has infinite value even ask dennis prager.

>>128313143
guns are illegal so that picture doesnt mean something

>>128313098
Can't have the enslaved work force deciding not to produce.

>>128313159
They didn't choose, chemicals in the brain made them.

>>128313233
Ignoring your racist comment I will supply proof

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JATJv8HlV8

>>128304532
To enable temporary detainment for those suffering from suicidal states of mind.

Statistically speaking it's a state of mind that passes, and we value the individual too much to lose them over such silliness.

>>128313445
>They didn't choose, chemicals in the brain made them.

As I said: Everyone has chemicals in their brain making them choose. That doesn't contradict the fact that people are choosing.

JUST KILL THE SUICIDAL PEOPLE
then people wont kill themselves anymore :)

>>128304377
>a fucking leaf

>>128304377

What's the police going to do if I hang myself and a camera on my house sees it?

Snipe the rope as I'm falling from across the city with a response time of a quarter of a second?

>>128304857

>Entirely ignoring the people who live stream their suicide or do it in a public place.

>>128313445
Niggers lower my motivation to be productive and dogs raise it. Dogs are more valuable than niggers.

Why does this thread have so many replies?
This is the most obvious bait and it's not even funny.

>>128313512
Some choices are less valid than others. You wanna go on a rampage? Can't let you do that. Wanna kill yourself over displacing your iPod? Can't let that happen either. Both of those are pathologies of the mind that simply are not allowed. Being capable of overriding your survival over something semi trivial means you're crazy.

>>128304857

Suicide being illegal is a rules patch to allow law enforcement to prevent suicide, since they are permitted to breach privacy and agency law and policy when in the process of preventing a crime.

>>128314001
42 replies by OP. No shariablue bait here.

>>128313512
They didn't choose, every action is just chemicals in the brain following a certain pattern

>>128313528
Thats amoral

>>128313835
Those are exceptions

>>128314115
sure

>>128313349

i could slit my own throat faster than that if i had to, or tie something around my neck and jump from a high place

or just you know, do it outside

value is subjective, death is part of life, suicide is going to occur and so on

>>128313397

but we'll get better robots faster if they stop

>>128314017
And whats the problem

>>128314212
Thats why in Canada they are removing things from roofs people tie ropes to.

>>128304857
>suicide, the leading cause of death of millenials drops to 0%
because everyone sudokus at home

File: GenericWhiteWojak.png (126KB, 619x757px) Image search: [Google]

126KB, 619x757px

>>128304857

>It's illegal

Which specific laws are you talking about? It isn't illegal in most of the world today to commit suicide. I don't know why no one else called you out on that.

>>128314008
Fuck off cucked faggot.

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Rampages are an important part of the democratic process. You would have us enslaved to tyrants for all eternity. I say give me liberty or give me death.

>>128313349

also cops take longer to get to a place than that, i've dealt with cops before, even in a situation where something serious could be happening they take longer than 60 seconds

>>128314119
Marxist tripe.

You're really saying they don't exist. Take your nihilistic garbage elsewhere.

>>128314017

Suicide isn't illegal in most of the world today. It's a mental health issue, not a legal issue. If you get restrained and put into a mental hospital, it's not because you were charged with a crime, it's because people think you're sick.

>>128314334

are they getting rid of kitchen knives too?

>>128314404
Supreme gentlemen, angry virgins in trench coats and trucks of peace... I'm sure that's what the forefathers had in mind.

>>128314356
You're totally not trolling

>>128314378
It is actually

>>128314419
If with you could drive to a police station in 40 seconds, how could they take longer to get to your house?

>>128304377
Sure we'll start with you and see if it works.

>>128314684
It is. Terrorists and revolutionaries have always existed.

They exist as a part of a free society. Freedom implies risk.

>>128314590
Your marxist trash is stupid, get out

>>128314634
They are being replaced with plastic

>>128314684

They would agree with it more than the Patriot Act.

>>128314832
I tried to have my MP put a camera in my house so sure

>>128313445
You are one retarded marxist, you want to force fucking cameras on everyone in their own homes so you can strip the right to own their own life. By what right do you, not government, but you personally fucking interfere in people's lives. Chemical inbalances really?, there is medication for that, if they want it. But you you smug fucking leaf think that you know what's best for them forcing your absurd moral standards on everyone, deciding what's okay to think and feel and what's not like you're the maple messiah. Day of the rake when?

File: 6e6b7dbeb5f8dd6328a5b75b0206682b.jpg (60KB, 680x583px) Image search: [Google]

60KB, 680x583px

>>128304711
Yes goy, allow us to see you 24/7, 365 days a year!Its not like its gonna bite you in the ass once doing anything outside the norm can land you in jail!

>>128315008
I don't interfer with others lives. I call the government for that. I am not forcing my view on anyone I am advocating the medical assocation do it.

File: canadian genocide.gif (3MB, 636x288px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 636x288px

>>128304377
>this op
>49+ posts of bullshit
>thread still up

>>128313528

That's what Americans do and they are #1 after all.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/man-threatens-suicide-police-kill-him

>>128314878
You're denying the existence of agency. This is fundamental to western thought.

Your line of thinking takes personal responsibility away from the individual. This is the dream of communism. That we are all one globular indistinguishable mass.

There is no individual. There is no agency. There's society and that's it.

>>128315126
you're totally not trolling

>>128314761

they're not that evenly dispersed everywhere and there are other crimes and things going on

suicide would/should be low priority (aside from allowing access to humane means) and you act like someone can't just jump out a high window or slit their own throat (hit your jugular and you'll bleed out before the cops get there even in your extremely quck cop scenario)

the only kinds of suicide that would prevent are things like pills, and you'd have to be stupid to try that knowing you were being watched and police would stop you

>>128304711
>>128309380

This saying's meaning has been twisted to hell and back. The original meaning was to emphasize the idea of how awful it would be, and runs off the assumption of guilty until proven innocent.

>>128315215
Sorry facts don't agree with your worldview. It's proven science that decisions are the result of the frontal lobe which is regulated by the laws of biology, physics, and chemistry like everything else. Nothing can create it's own decision since everything is cause and effect.

>>128304377
I'd make sure to fap right in front of the cameras and then let my jizz crust up on the lenses while some poor government official has to watch through an ever increasingly white tinged lens.

Plus whenever I fuck my girlfriend it will be right in front of the camera technically cucking whoever is watching.

The whole suicide argument falls through because for any response to happen someone has to see it happen, so potentially tens of thousands of people would be employed to watch 24/7 for it to even work, the cost of this policy far outweighs the results. Suicide is ultimately an individuals choice and even if you make it illegal when you can't jail someone who's dead.

>>128315306
Crimerate is going down

>jump out high window
And where will you get access to that?

BTW if your logic was true prisoners could easily kill themselves with razors.

>>128315473
>It's proven science that decisions are the result of the frontal lobe which is regulated by the laws of biology, physics, and chemistry like everything else.

I'll repeat for a third time: Everybody has brain chemistry that determines their thoughts. It doesn't imply that they aren't choosing. The statement that there is no agency is not proven by science. That's your personal trash tier philosophy.

Go live in some communist shithole if that's what you think. The west doesn't want you.

>>128315677
The camera is government property you'd go to jail for that

>Plus whenever I fuck my girlfriend it will be right in front of the camera technically cucking whoever is watching.
Well funny since the guy watching would laugh at you since he got to see your tiny penis

>The whole suicide argument falls through because for any response to happen someone has to see it happen, so potentially tens of thousands of people would be employed to watch 24/7 for it to even work, the cost of this policy far outweighs the results. Suicide is ultimately an individuals choice and even if you make it illegal when you can't jail someone who's dead.
You do realize that if someone tries to do it you stop them, and then once in jail you can't do it. It's not hard. Look at the FACTS, just have 1/10 houses being watched so it's a 1/10 chance you go to prison for life.

>>128315730
>people are choosing thoughts
>even though it's the laws of science that choose it
Nice trash tier philosophy. In my opinion even saying that is grounds for institutionalization and you should be locked up for saying that. Obvious mental illness.

>>128315166
No you do, you are just a big bitch hiding behind a government. Using them to take blame for shit policies you try to enact. Also shoving cameras in everbodies house against their wishes is most certainly interfering with their lives you commie. Maybe some people hold the view that they should die or better yet not have cameras watching them taking a shit, but according to you that doesn't matter because your view that people shouldn't be allowed to comitt suicide comes at any cost, specifically freedom. You know who else puts social welfare above the rights of individuals? Marxists

>>128315957
People choose.
Laws of science don't choose.

You're obviously a brainlet nigger who can't even grasp what a choice is.

>>128316128
Then i am proudly a marxist.

>>128316140
You're a brainlet. People do not chose, laws of science within the brain do and they really don't since everything has been predermined. If you aren't trolling then what you just would be grounds for institutalionalization since what you said shows you have poor mental development and mental illness.

>>128315851
You really do argue with JUST fallacies haha plus you didn't even answer the second point you quoted, you are not factoring logistics and response time, you also assume suicide methods are slow but some methods can kill you instantly. Your idea is retarded your a typical leaf poster.

How can you justify such a cost to Liberty and such a huge financial cost with worse returns than simply getting school to teach that suicide is a permanent solution to temporary problems.

>>128304377
>he doesnt know

>>128304377
>0
troll, camera won't help, only broadcast the suicide

>>128311811


OP CONFIRMED
SHILL INSTIGATOR

TRYING TO SUMMON NEW IDEAS
AND INSEITIVES TO MAKE
LIFE MORE TYRANNICAL PEOPLE
WITH MINDS LIKE YOU OP MUST BE DESTROYED

>>128317066
>muh fallacies
Hahahaha baby's first rebuttal

School won't teach people suicide isn't a solution because that's where I tried to commit suicide because of the problems I had at school

>>128304377
All modern TVs & computer monitors have cameras & microphones built into them, everything you do & say is uploaded directly to Samsung.

>>128317503
i just skimmed through this to see how pathetic it was that everyone actually indulged this fucking leaf shill. his tactics worked, sadly

>>128317535

I'm sorry the system broke you down and convinced you that you are nothing but a set of responses to predetermined stimuli.

You're starting to get out of the depression, but you're still deeper than you seem to realize.

>>128315689
but they can, they just choose not to.

>>128304857
law is an opinion with a gun

>>128304377

The loss of privacy and connection to others is the main cause of suicide. Clearly nothing could go wrong.

>>128314119
>every action is just chemicals in the brain following a certain pattern
>Thats amoral

pick one, leaf

>>128304532
Achmed needs his slaves.

>>128318102
Your totally not trolling

>>128304377
I could still hypothetically kill myself before they get there.

>>128317535
The reason why you are suicidal is because your brain is warped, you don't understand that you think purely in fallacies, I don't see a single post by you where you argue your point you just go around in a circle repeating the same retarded shit with an occasional ad hominem. You should of just ended it nothing important would of been lost.

There is so much out there helping suicidal individuals I guess canada is just so shit even with all the help you can get life is just too hard to bear.

You need help bruh your not right, as a person who has had suicidal thoughts and someone who really felt as though things were not going to get better I found a way out of it and for me it was simply focusing on improving myself, mentally, physically and socially and living for the moment. Appreciate the beauty of nature and all the good things and things will get better from my experience, your in a good place because things can only improve when you hit rock bottom.

File: contra.jpg (5KB, 179x180px) Image search: [Google]

5KB, 179x180px

>>128304377
Will you approve the cameras in the bathroom and attic too?
In the wardrobe?
In the closet where Artur the closet homo is cutting his veins or hanging himself on the peg?
And how much trees will be under camera surveillance?
Will all cars autobrake when driven in front of truck at 110, are they capable do do it quick enough?
What about taking handful of pills with half a liter of vodka and going to sleep as usual - is the peeper able to detect this?
Who is to blame when there is an suicide epidemic and peepers can not handle it?

>>128304377
suicide is the only way this zoo membership can be stopped, suicide is the best answer to life's real problems

>>128315689

apartment building

prisoners do kill themselves

File: 1495244776142.png (478KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

478KB, 1280x720px

>>128304377

I wish we could deport shit posting cucks like you to live on that garbage continent in the middle of the ocean with the rest of the trash.

No country should suffer the indignity of having a flag associated with fucking scum like you.

>>128304377
Camera in my house watching me , would make me wanna get suicided.

>>128316721
see
>>128314878
>>128312576
You change colors like leaves in the fall, time to get raked

That does it leaf, I'm tired of your shitposting.

I've been saving up over 7,000,000 Canadian geese in a massive kennel and I'm releasing them all in your direction.

>>128314594

Huh. Working on bad data. My apologies.