Can Sweden be REALLY overrun by Muslims?

>>128298171
>Syria's fertility rate from last year : 2.55
>Sweden's : 1.88

>>128298171
I hope so

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>>128298228
Syrian bump

>>128298280
I thought Finns loves Swedes and hated Norwies????

Stop reposting your shitty thread you dumb croissant

>>128298171
Just look at the US we were 90% white in 1970.

In 2015 we are down to 70% white. If you believe that fake infographic you just showed me you are an idiot. Even in states like South Dakota 25% of children born are non-white.
Here is a list I have provided of who I think will collapse first.

>Belgium
>France
>Sweden
>Germany

>>128299297
You can include The Netherlands to that list.

>>128299563
what is their demographics under 20 look like?

>>128299136

Did it only once bc I didn't had good answers
>>128299297
Yes but in the US you got a shit ton of strangers & black people and we know that black people have the highest fertility rates.

>>128299848
But blacks throw most of their babies in the garbage.

>>128298952
I dont know where you heard nonsense like that

>>128299848
>we know that black people have the highest fertility rates.

That is why I think Belgium and France will collapse first. Brussells must be 30% nigger already and I only say this because I have been there a few times.

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>>128298952
finns usually think swedes are either gay effeminate , mostly both , they have snus which is cool , norway is better than normal but their skiing team uses way too much doping shit

>>128299848
More black babies are aborted year by year in the US than are born. It's hispanics replacing the whites there.

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>>128300217
Yeah but you got latinos too. Both blacks and latinos have huge families.

>>128300310
Here. Sorry little blond boy if /pol/ is wrong.

>>128300312
Yeah plus Belgium is little.
About my country I don't know, most of them are in the big cities but the countryside is 100% white.

>>128300808
>little blond boy

Tall strong brown hair green eyes. Sorry little baguette boy but you're a fag

>>128299782
Around 85% white

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>>128298171
You don't just magically experience population growth with a fertility rate below replacement levels, Pierre.

>>128301120
Same here. Well I mean... we're --supposed-- to be 85% white

>>128301501
Saved.
If this pic is true. I'm sorry for ya.

>>128300452
Kek

>>128301120
That is pretty good. If you can kick the immigrants out now you might have a chance.

fertility rate isn't a percentage what the fuck is that shit map

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>>128302578
Maybe this is more accurate?

>>128303221
From 2009. Nvm.

>>128298228
Now show the fertility rates of syrian immigrants living in Sweden. Actually, immigrants lower their fertitily rates too after a while in their new country

>>128299297
Whites can be less in percentage but they have been just growing in numbers. 'White genocide' is a hoax. If 25% of the new born in South Dakota are non-white, then the majority is still white and you are not dissapearing anytime soon.

>>128301501
And? The new swedes are still swedes, and most will indentify with your culture as much as you do. Also, immigrants birth rates tend to drop with time too.

>>128303425
You think so? I mean if in their new countries they have a highest standard of living it'll be kind of easier for them to have huge families

>>128303221
the numbers are correct in the first pic too, but fertility rate means births per woman

Human beings have been mixing with eachother and migrated since they have been around in this planet. Most today countries are the product of the miscegeneration of at least two different groups of people. Even Japan.

Don't act as if this new immigrant wave is something special or apocaliptic.

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>>128298171
V I V E L A F R A N C E

We are the future of Europe, boys. Time to go on a trip and fertilize some aryans hein?

>>128303802
It's the contrary. As the country develops people tend to have less children. This is happening to us too, in South America. Our birth rates have been dropping for 100 years. In the 60's, when we were poorer, the average woman had 6 kids, now she has 2. And that number will continue to shrink

It also happened in the developing Asia.

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>>128303588
so there are more white Londoners now then there has ever been? There are more white Parisians now than there has ever been? There are more white Chicagoans now than there has ever been?

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I wish I was french

>>128303929
You're too intelligent to be on /pol/

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>>128304345
So can you provide a source for this? What if the incoming immigrants never stop? That means less and less percentage of white people.

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>>128304116
Okay ;_;

>>128303929
I'm more inclined to think that it's going to happen like in india with never-ending segregation and clear demarcation of the ruling classes

>>128304345
Good point.
That's probably why war torn Muslim countries of the Middle East are maintaining their high birth rates.
That's also probably why there will be more Muslims than Christians in 2050

>>128304383
>>128303588

What the anon is saying is that whites as a % of the population is still growing, they're just outpaced by minorities who grow faster.

I wish there was more precise data on that, though. Compare the white growth rates now and in the past, and see if whites on their own pass the replacement bar. Feel free to link.

>>128303699
>a shitskin is a swede if he's born there
No, they aren't. Despite what liberals may want you to believe, there is an inherent otherness in 2nd, 3rd, and even 4th generation non-European immigrants. It's why so many of these terrorists were born in the country they blow up. There foreign parents fill their head with propaganda about how evil their current country is.

>>128303802

http://www.economist.com/news/international/21697819-immigrants-do-less-raise-birth-rates-generally-believed-fecund-foreigners

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>>128298952
Quite the opposite, swedes are a bunch of queers.

>>128303929
Europe is the product of WHITE groups, Pablo. Romans, Gauls, Britons, Slavs, Germanics etc were slightly different culturally, linguistically, and a bit genetically but they are still white.

>>128304639
Yes.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/David_Coleman17/publication/14998143_Trends_in_Fertility_and_Intermarriage_Among_Immigrant_Populations_in_Western-Europe_as_Measures_of_Integration/links/57618b7b08ae244d0372ca44.pdf

I found this in a quick search.

>>128299782
Among school "children", 30+% are now of foreign origin

>>128299848
>Yes but in the US you got a shit ton of strangers
Yes, they are called Mexicans. Mexican immigration before the 50s was nearly nonexistent. In 1950 Hispanics made up 2.1% of the US population, in 1980 they were 6.4%, today they are over 16%.

Blacks really aren't the problem, their population in relation to the rest of the US has remained largely static, it is the Hispanic population that has exploded.

>>128305016
Society is a racial construct. You can't have a first world country with third world people

Enoch Powell was right.

>>128305396
>doomed

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>>128304403
>mfw the french have high birth rate only due to having almost 20% muslim population and they are proud of it

>>128299848
>black people have the highest fertility rates
Nope. They're way behind Mestizos and Muslims.

>>128305528
Powell tried to warn us when the numbers entering were at 50,000 a year, immigration last year was in the 400,000+ mark, not counting illegals or immigrant births

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>>128304801
As the country develops, there tend to be less rural people and more urban people. Rural people want to have many children because their labour is useful, while people in the cities want to have less children because they have less time to raise them and they become more costly. Also, women participation in the workforce and contraceptives are more popular when the country develops.

>>128305734
Seems more like Swedes are jealous that they can't get as much muslim cock.

>>128305661
Yep. Some schools are almost exclusively for immigrants. We even have Muslim schools.
We truly are doomed.

>>128305779
The sad sad truth, anon.

>>128303425
Yeah after like 3 generations, fertility rate normalises, this would take at least 45 years, in the mean time the first generation would have fertility boom due to the fact they are leaving a war zone, living in better conditions and getting it all free at the expense of tax payers.

>>128304191
the french make love with their faces and war with poor customer service.

>>128298171
Put it this way. Not even 10 years ago when I walked around on the streets of England. There'd be maybe 1 black guy for every 40 whites.
Nowadays Wherever I walk there are blacks and Muslims. I walk past a school outside London every day. The non whites make up about 30-40% of the kids.
When I go into london there are more blacks than whites. I drove past a school in London and it was reversed 1 white kid for ever 40 blacks. The only people that don't believe this shit is happening are the ones that live in the middle of nowhere.

When people think they are lying about the rates, they are. Its far worse than they're letting on.
When I moved into Chelmsford 10 years ago. It was 99% white. its now about 90% and that's just because of how many old people there are here.

>>128306589
Neh this is very unlikely. In the developed world most people just can't afford having 6 children anymore. It's costly.

>>128303425
Maybe Syrian Immigrants but the Muslims in England have been expanding more and more in England. The politicians even addmited they thought they'd slow down having kids but they were wrong.

>>128306844
he's saying that they get free welfare and government help, even if their fertility rate does stabilize to our levels it won't matter, the population in newborns will already be beyond the point of return.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF9V8POmuxg

>>128305026
Ty for this, camarade

>>128306968
http://www.economist.com/news/international/21697819-immigrants-do-less-raise-birth-rates-generally-believed-fecund-foreigners

>>128306844
Thats why they take gibs, work illegally on the side and get plenty of help from NGO charities, if they were in the same situation as everyone else their birth rate would be the same.

>>128305734
7.5%*
>>128305747
Yeah I talked about blacks all over the world. The ones having the highest fertility rates are Black Muslims from subsahara Africa

>>128303425
While true, them overruling the country numerically is not the worst problem. You also have to consider the segregation, racial/religious tensions and so forth. The no-go zones, muslim neighbourhoods, all are a problem that won't easily go away (like the Turks in Germany from WW2).

>>128307046
It will stabilize despite the welfare because you culture and way of living does not go in concordance with having too many children. Remember many people in the third world, and specially in Africa, have many children because they are rural, live in farms.

It is true that you won't be 100% of the population anymore. You will be 80%, probably, but this is far from the concept of disapearing or becoming an oppresed minority.

>>128307603
>You also have to consider the segregation, racial/religious tensions and so forth. The no-go zones, muslim neighbourhoods, all are a problem that won't easily go away (like the Turks in Germany from WW2).

I agree with this tho. There have been tensions between Mena and Europe since the start of humanity, i believe

>>128307614
We are already at 80%!
And they're NOT following our culture, that's the whole point, they live here and follow their own cultures and religions in ghettos, where they use our own welfare against us.

London is already 40% white and dropping.
fifteen years ago nobody could have predicted this, now it's mathematically impossible to come back from that.

>>128306832
Might be your perception. White flight also accounts for quite a lot of "changing demographics" in the inner cities.

>>128308241
I'm in an area where white flight should be happening yet we are quickly becoming the minority here too

>>128308241
>>128308325
As in. I'm in the area where all the whites should be coming too. yet I only see muslims and blacks expanding.

>>128308325
Maybe it's the inevitable course we'll have to follow then. Our leading elites, on both sides, have demonstrated time and again they're not bothering with this problem.

Perhaps that in a few decades, as white middle-classes get poorer and smaller - if the current trend continues-, we'll actually see an uptick.

>>128308241
That's why 'net immigration' statistics are bullshit, If 50,000 white people leave and 50,000 immigrants arrive, 'net migration' is zero. Last year 326,000 people arrived, not counting foreign births or illegal immigration.
If you add in the white flight on top it gets a whole lot worse, it's a shame we don't have any numbers for it.

>>128308465
i'm right in the middle of London, it's fucking terrible here. Only other white person on the street is an irish guy across the road. Some labour campaigners had the fucking gall to knock earlier, they were actually white too.
Told them where to stick their leaflets, traitors

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>>128308647
Yeah, we're fucked anyway. here's a blackpill for you, my dear friend.

>>128308976
I have no problem with socialists, as long as they don't import foreign masses. I'd probably vote for them here if their agenda didn't include all that bs.

>>128307308
The map is old and probably manipulated françois

>0,1%

>>128309451
if you want something really shocking, have a look at the number of national insurance numbers given to foreign nationals last year. it's like a social security number everyone has that lets you get NHS healthcare, housing, welfare etc

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/593547/nino-registrations-adult-overseas-nationals-december-2016-summary.pdf

>>128308325
Can confirm other replies, I used to live in one of the most white areas of the country yet even my home has been flooded. Now I live in a 90%+ white place yet all I ever see are minorities and a large part of the city is essentially an ethnic ghetto, obviously statistics don't include illegals. Where I live is actually one of the top 2 destinations for whites to move to yet the reality is even here we are probably minority.

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>>128310237
They're mostly condensed. What areas have you been staying in? I live in Cumbria and don't see them too much.

>>128310143
It could be worse. Most European nationals are, I assume, whites. That's not perfect, but if I were given a choice between letting in thousands of Italians and thousands of Pakis, I'd choose the Italians.

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>>128298171
>>128304191
>>128305528
I refuse to believe that the European population will just simple step down and let Europe become islamic. The terrorist attacks, rapes and overal barbarism will catch up the the native population. Enoch said it will end in civil war and he hasn't been wrong sins his 1968 speech. So prepair. Go to the gym. Eat well. Have as much white children as possible. And try to red pill normies. Prepair. Merkel is ussering in another dark age if the Europeans were to loose.

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Yes, we're fucked. But hopefully things will start changing really soon.

SD will have huge numbers in the upcoming election, Alternative for Sweden will start their political journey as well as a more radical alternative, we have a organized Alt-Right movement that just started. Things will get better.

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>>128310628
>tfw 50%

>>128310956
lower now. the last census was 2012.

Excepting seven countries in sub Saharan Africa TFR is at or nearly at replacement level around the world.

>>128310873
Add the victims and media coverage that all Islamic terror attacks did in the past twenty years, from 1995 to now, in the "greater" West (EU+US).

After all those tens of hundreds of deaths at the hands of radical islamists, and all this coverage, we would have awaken a long time ago if this was to be. Sorry to put you down.

>>128311186
Even counting the suburbs, which may not be counted as "London"proper but whose inhabitants may work in London?

>>128310628
I now live in East midlands but I come from East Anglia, Interestingly I have a customer facing job that essentially means I have to travel around my city and interact with customers so I actually get to experience diversity every day.

Cumbria is comfy as fuck though i've been through the lake district a couple of times and its gorgeous, stayed in Whitehaven and it was a bit run down but you kinda expect it in seaside towns in Engalnd.

Just so you guys understand, both those maps are 100% meme maps. Especially the info on the # of Muslims map....totally off. By a lot.

Stop fucking posting meme maps.

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>>128310922
Seems SD has taken a softer stance, which sucks. I will still vote for them 2018, but I really hope AFS or other gets some traction for 2022. Radical change is needed

>>128303588
>Whites can be less in percentage but they have been just growing in numbers.

This is merely inertia due to effectiveness of modern medicine. White birthrate in every or almost every country is well below the replacement level. Sooner or later old men will begin to die out and the next generation will be smaller.

>'White genocide' is a hoax.

It is, in fact it is probably a false flag meme thrown in by globalist shills and picked up by the same fucktards who think that destroying Europe and your own nation for the sake of reviving failed imperial ambitions makes you an exemplary nationalist. It makes the nationalist side look idiotic and disarms more serious arguments, like observation that even 5% of Muslim population is quite enough for persistent terrorism and even civil wars. For the record, we have about 7%, and they cause, like, 70% of our internal problems. Allowing Muslims to persist on the territories we conquered was perhaps the lesser evil, allowing them into your countries is sheer idiocy, even if they will never outnumber whites, which should be pointed out.

>>128311694
While numbers obviously vary, they're not through the roof or ridiculously small. I trust them *to some degree* because they fit related figs you can find on wiki.

>>128311607
The lower value suburbs very likely. Never been to London myself (and never will unless its to remove kebab) so I'm the wrong person to ask.
>>128311681
I'm from Durham originally, moved here due to work but you're right in saying its comfy as fuck. Beautiful warner type English countryside, same with Northumberland too. Great beaches there as well. Other course the Lake District.

>>128303929
>>128303929
>Human beings have been mixing with eachother and migrated since they have been around in this planet

Not with niggers. Try and prove this wrong.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18292342

(2008) Li JZ et. al., show the distinct population groups of the Earth by genetically testing individuals from each population group and mapping them by their single nucleotide polymorphisms.

Only three groups - South Asians, Central (West) Asians, and East Asians have overlaps while Middle Easterners, Central Asians, and Indian South Asians have genetic contributions from European population groups. There is no genetic continuum between Africans and any other population group alive. The 40.000 years of evolution put between the rest of Mankind and Africans can be shown as the source of this.

This finding is supported by (Lao et. al., 2006; Costas et. al., 2005; Xing et. al., 2010 (1); Xing et. al., 2010 (2); Jakobsson et. al., 2008; Huang et. al., 2011; Paşaniuc et. al., 2010; Huang et. al., 2009; Hao et. al., 2009; Nothnagel et. al., 2009; Chanda et. al., 2012)

>The 40.000 years of evolution put between the rest of Mankind and Africans can be shown as the source of this.

>>128310628
date of map/. 1933?

>>128312617
2011. That map is bad enough and shows 3 red tumours but you believe /pol/ to the point you think 75% of the country would be painted red?
https://www.ons.gov.uk/census/2011census

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>>128299297
>betting Sweden and Germany will go last

I too like to live dangerously

>>128312617
And in 1933 it would've been 100% dark green.

>>128312789
2011, so obsolete then brah-va?

>>128312853
I cant remember my youth so well.

>>128313076
If it was obsolete the government would've commissioned another one, wouldn't they have, Paco?

>>128313280
lol for paco, I know many Francisco's... but i'm a Kernow born Juden..how many more travelers have entered the u.k. in the last 5 to 7 years kevin?

>>128313076
>>128312789
825k ninos a year so 5.8m in total most being in London and Southeast so most of London and around London is solid red while red blotches will be appearing nation wide but lots more in south east like a rash.

>>128313524
Apparently there's 117,234 total ""refugees"" in Britain in total. Not over the last 5 to 7 years, just i n total.

>>128313763
Agree, reading some telegraph statistics..

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11827172/Immigration-statistics-expected-to-rise-to-record-levels-live.html

>>128313873
I've lived in Romania,worked with Polacks Ukrainians, Russians. etc..Stabbings , beatings sure. scrounging yep..... Bombings 0. They don't bother me, at the end of the day we believe in the same god/or not.