EU IS FUCKED

>canadian telling anyone that they're fucked

>>128287625
>ad hominem when you have no counter arguments

>>128287625
And who are you to talk?

>>128287880
t.50%

>>128287625
The man's trying to save Canada. We were chimps for god's sake!

>>128287625
>>128287807

Ignore the roach.

>>128288039
Will do.

>>128287366
if one were to make a picture of what peterson is, then he would be bathing in jew cum, for he is a whore for their lies. Little jew cock lover that he is.

>>128287959
I wish people would stop falling for D&C so easily. America still has white people in it and so does Europe, stop infighting there is no point but to further divide us.

>>128287366
He's full of shite to be quite honest with you famalam.

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>>128287366

Which is why the EU Army is going to be made.(To stop countries from leaving/resisting the EU & to allow the EU to last longer).

http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/subject/knowledge%20bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/

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>>128287366
That's that.

>>128288803
Divide and conquer. That's all it is. A fucking theatre specatle. By the way, how are you Frank?

>>128287625
You are just salty that your roach dream is confirmed dead. No EU for you. No EU for anybody.

>>128288900
Dubs. Becuase Peterson can't handle the trips.

>>128288803
TOP FUCKING KEK FRANK
BRINGING YOUR LARPING TO OTHER THREADS???? SAD

https://www.google.com/search?q=jordan+peterson+youtube&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS733US733&oq=jordan+peterson+youtube&aqs=chrome..69i57j35i39j0l4.2095j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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>>128287625
and here I thought the sultan Erdogan beheaded most 4chan Turks for loving traps and anime

>>128289155

Post toppest Kek Frank memes here

>>128288210
Were you perhaps one of his students, who he failed because you were not sorted out?

>>128289314
OK, THE BEETLES AND WOMEN ARE SWAPPING VAGINAS AND FRONTAL LOBES
READ INTO MY EARLIER KBs!!!!!!!1

>>128289421

>Investigate it for yourself
>Circlejerking Fanboys

Insiders don't take selfies, Frank.

>>128288210
i am ashamed to share a country with you.

>>128287366
>shills for America despite not being American
>vague criticism of "hierarchies"
>muh brussels bullshit excuse

What a fucking Jewish shill. Can we dox this fuck and look at his funding? Any bets Israel is funding him?

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>>128289401
no, it was because I started to learn about history, and jews.

>>128290050
so..being anti EU is now a Jewish plot? Get aut Share Blue

>>128290086
if you knew anything about peterson, you would know he is actually trying to salvage ancient Western culture.

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>>128287366
>mfw EU faggots believe they are like the American brit colonies just waiting to spawn one huge nation out of the love for muslim cock

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>>128290050
>>vague criticism of "hierarchies"

Nothing vague about it. You just can't compete.

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>>128290007
why dont you make as the kikes and gas yourself faggot?

We even have some additional lore, beyond the basic lore that we made

200 years together, lets see if I can find a working link

>>128287625
Stop pretending you're human, roach.

>>128287366
>nations are safe spaces

Excuse me sir ?

>>128290622
so let me get this right. you are against 'the jews' but pro EU?

>>128290622
>>128290622
https://www.sendspace.com/file/fiw4uj

>>128290050
>Vague criticism of hierarchies

What's vague? Do you think the states in the EU are actually equal? If not, then what is the ranking, and why would any state that is contributing more than they're getting want to partake in it?

Things are left purposefully blurred so that the fragments are seen as whole.

A Greek and a German don't even think of "european" as the same thing, let alone think of themselves as "european", because "european" is too difuse to be focused on a concept you can build an ideal such as the EU on.

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>>128290622

>dude centrism lmao
Disappointing desu.

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GET YOUR DAILY KB FAGGOTS

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X88pcqzt8lo

>>128290007
Gargle that kike cum harder you jewish cock-socket

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>>128290622
take the ultimate red pill
https://www.quora.com/Is-there-physical-scientific-proof-that-Jews-were-gassed-to-death-in-Nazi-concentration-camps/answer/Damian-Graves

WE WUZ CHIMPZ N SHIEEET
I fucking love Dr Peterson

>>128288803
The EU army is never going to fight a significant war, especially against another EU state. What it does is neuter any participating members. Any responsibility you give up to the EU is a function that your nation loses, e.g. trade deals - the UK gave up this responsibility and now our civil service has no experience of trade negotiations which makes Brexit incredibly difficult. An EU army means that France or Poland will lose the essential command structures that are necessary for making an army function, which means they will not be able to take independent action and if they leave they will lose a substantial part of their military capability.

>>128290894
peterson confirmed for globalist shill

i voted remain but now i hope the eu will collapse because i'd rather not go down alone

>>128291305
>An EU army means that France or Poland will lose the essential command structures that are necessary for making an army function
This is what they already did to ex-Yu countries.

>>128287366
why doesnt run for prime minister

>>128287625
fpbp.

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>>128291566
Imagine the memes

>>128291051
There is a subtle need to red pill many of these peterson fags and to "radicalize" (hint: its just basic history)

Peterson gets so upset with that.

The greatest story never told for example would be a nice start. But I dont exactly have the bin for that, because its the basics...you could easily just stumble in a more obscure part of the internet and find all that stuff. That is how blue pilled that retard peterson is.

Someone else do the arduous task for sourcing the basics.

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>>128291566
He revisits the idea from time to time and he said he always felt he could make more of a difference from the back.

>>128287366
He's correct about the North-South divide.

But he's very wrong in assuming a Left-Right divide.
And equally wrong in labeling Euro-skepticism as a right-wing thing.
European politics isn't divided into left and right like Canadian, British or American politics are.

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>>128291962
You're reading too much into it, he didn't claim euro-skepticism is "a right wing thing", or that left-right is a divide in europe.

He just used the right as an example of how America isn't homogenous even when compared to the EU.

>>128291566
then you know shit has seriously hit the fan

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>>128291726
I admit he's a fence sitter, hell his whole thing is he hates ideologies. I still like him despite him not sharing my politics. He's still an advocate for God and our culture and still is the best we have here in Canada at the moment. Living in Toronto and having the balls to poke the hornets nest is fantastic. He's got normies to read the Gulag Archipelago from those Joe rogans podcasts. And that's enough.

>>128288803
Give it up, frank.

>>128288803
Hoping the EU will die before they get the chance to unveil it and we can wait another 100 years before they try to pull this shit again.

>>128289314
shill detected

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>>128292422
well many of us here are unironically fascist, and we even like it that way, and every day we are even growing stronger. If he wants to come into our home and spout some garbage, he is going to get an appropriate and large response to it. Meaning that whomever comes here will be red pilled on the jews and transformed into more fascism, instead of the other way around.

Hitler did nothing wrong. The whites are better. We got lots of evidence for all of these things. We are not ashamed, and we are even rather aggressive about it.

The right wing ways and its many offshoots, be they monarchism, traditionalism, nationalism or even fascism are natural ways for men to live by, they were actually the majority of our history. And they are good. Anyone shittalking about it, a classic centrist or not is not going to get away with it. Like this second rate e-celeb faget and jew lover.

can't stand hearing this nutjob

europe will prosper

screencap this

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>>128292905
too much of the koolaid, friendo

>>128290007
>dealwithit.svg

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>>128293016
should we start with race? newfriendo

http://pastebin.com/4qDqptnR

>>128292905
I'm with you to a certain extent even if you are exaggerating, yet I can still appreciate people who are not aligned with my politics. He is a Clinical psychologist after all, his political acumen is lacking but he's a major thorn in the side for leftists and he's a man of God so I like that.

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>>128293160
or should we go into the WW2 era and its basic history with things like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XExjrZxTdk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca8CpIFb0_E

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>>128287959
>t.0%

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>>128293226
we dont care, our home, our rules, our words. Look at the sticky and guess where the "clinical psychologist" fits in.

>>128293707
Take your meds friend

>>128293707
I think you're just a shill trying to deter support or discussion. Peterson is the only popular name we have here in Canadian political discourse standing up to the crazy leftists. I see through your shit. You're coming on way too strong with that tumblr filename over that meme picture.

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>>128292933
Not united.

>>128292905
Spout those ideas in a public space, see how far that will take you.

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>>128294364
How scared are you of speaking your mind? If you're wrong, people will be able to show you. Otherwise, they will inevitably be convinced. As long as you can explain why you believe what you believe. If you can't articulate yourself, then sure, shut up.

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>>128293871
it fits in with "authority fallacy" newfriendo.

I am not sure if you people havent realized it yet, but we dont conform to your standards, if you come here we will force you to conform to ours. And that fucking faggot if he and his fans want to post about him better be ready to bend over.

>>128294591
>If you're wrong, people will be able to show you. Otherwise, they will inevitably be convinced. As long as you can explain why you believe what you believe.

Absolute horseshit.I've argued with too many Communists and Socialists to know that reason does not work. That doesn't mean one shouldn't hold true to their convictions and speak the Truth.

>>128291080

Whose this frank and why does he look like a shitalian wop? Quick rundown?

>>128294591
being labeled a Nazi in Central/Northern Europe is worse than being a full blood nigger in Brazil

you will be social outcast

its not a safespace like pol

>>128291191
>that image
tel aviv is the faggot capital of the world.

they're also 'the' racemixers in porn.

>>128294787

Posting this would land you 5years+ jail time
delete this I don't think it's funny at all

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>>128294878
People aren't born communists, and they often stop being communists. Reason works because it appeals to the other as if they're your kin. If you know why you believe what you believe then you can convince people of it. You can, at the very least, make people see with your eyes for a second, and that's enough for me to try.

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>>128295344
make me

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>>128295655
maybe some more civic nationalism memes too

>>128288210
If you want to blame anyone for bathing in jewcum, start with the fucking EU-lovers fucking retarded kikefag.

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>>128295785

>>128290050
>I haven't watched anything from him, but I'm sure I know what he says and means. Meanwhile I love the EU and taking Mohammeds cock.

Speciaal onderwijs zeker...

>>128290086
>no, it was because I started to learn

blijkbaar niet genoeg moslimknuppel

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>>128287366
Europe is fucked how will this effect my masturbation sessions?

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The guy is a joke, he's either really disingenuous or he just won't do it.
He commented that the right has a niche for being anti-semetic which he claims is dangerous, but he's read the book "The Gulag Archipelago" which includes a volume called "200 Years Together" which
>Is written as a comprehensive history of Jews in the Russian Empire, the Soviet Union and modern Russia between the years 1795 and 1995, especially with regard to government attitudes toward Jews.[1]
And if you anything of that it's that Jews fucked the Russians over hardcore. So fuck Peterson, he should stick to self-help like clean your room. Complete an utter charlatan outside this sector.

>>128294878
>I've argued with too many Communists and Socialists to know that reason does not work.

Because you didn't argue and didn't shock their belief system - a system they constructed they used to cope with life [they probably dismiss TFR of subethnic minorities and demographic shifts because they're still stuck and soaked in their cave of marxist propaganda caused by cold war subvertion - taking refugee in their cosy safe place in /leftypol/ where mods ban anyone who criticizes about Islamism.

They'll keep voting wrongly in leftist parties like football adepts that have their football club for life - first because they've done it in the past and want to admit they were wrong 2nd counter.propaganda ain't working effectively 3rd they don't care about political issues of their country because of contemporary way of life: materialism, less time to think or to have insight, etc) or 4th they're underwhelmed by the facts and will try to deny what's happening in Western Civ.

The redpill must be always near the target,

If the left and right using two separate languages, our message isn't getting near the bluepilled and is very dangerous to maintenance of our civilization.

Leftie hate sharia laws and loves gay but import low-educated muslims and don't be islamophobes about their culture. Are they retard?

>>128295726
>>128295785
>>128295903

Jij bent een nog ergere kanker dan een moslim

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Everytime some e-celeb gets some promotion, you cult followers flock to them and eat up his/her shit. Does it make you feel special and part of a movement?

You are basically Antifa-tier.

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>>128293707
>>128293335
>>128293160
>>128294787
This. Peterson does not tell the whole truth,therefore he is lying. Perhaps less of a liar than others, but a liar nonetheless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAwWM55dTSE

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>>128296712
It is not like it is not happening already. UK left the EU

>>128296726
Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened.

Clean your room and lift so we can make it happen again.

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>>128296726
he is a little bit more respectable than the previous e-celebs that tried to drag the user base down, but its still quite essentially the same struggle against the outsider cancer that does not know our culture, our zealotry for truth.

I became a fascist because the historical truth, was on their side. And the more I dig deeper into history the deeper I get into that truth.

And of truth there is only one. If this becomes a bigger annoyance then some of you guys should do a little bit more effort to burst into these threads and red pill the people.

The grass always needs to be pruned, trimmed from time to time.

and whats more delicious is that the jews may finally realize that thanks to us there is a large swath of fascism coming into reality right now, they were lax, and very slow to recognize how potent we are. But dont forget to make sure that the basics of this process are still covered.

>>128287366
Brexit, V4 and the hardline taken by Macron and Merkel basically tell you it's in dire straits.

>>128296726
Do you know where that speech comes from?

>>128296726
I cannot even imagine the smell.

>>128287366
>he think Americans now are the same that they were in the 50's
lol
everyone is fucked

>>128287366
And I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free.

>>128287625
Well, at least we can vote out our government.

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>>128297218
I couldn't tell you which specific speech it was from, but I know it was Commander Rockwell and that means it was the truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1yON7-6VK8

>>128288803
Mods need to perma ban this faggot

>>128290894
Did you just assume xyr gender?

>>128297771
I have great respect for him, can't believe someone in his own party backstabbed him (literally), I just wish he hadn't adopted the Nazi Symbols, he could have really taken off.

>>128291305
Not only are they steadily losing their personal firearms, they'll be losing their state militaries as well. A complete surrender of individual and state sovereignty. Terrifying innit?

>>128292422
Ideology is the Devils semen, Leaf Brother.

>>128293016
Narrator: But Europe did NOT prosper.

>>128287366
So he went from being anti-SJW to now thinking he's an expert on foreign politics. It will only be a few weeks until he joins the ((septic community)).

>>128293707
>Our home.

This is the only place that will tolerate you, it doesn't mean we like you. Your autism actually gives us a bad name, desu senpai.

>>128294283
Interestingly enough, some of the loudest voices against this degenerate are Canadian. Activates the ol' almonds.

>>128287366

He also said that European Nationalists are "regressive" and compared their desire for borders and safety to SJW's wanting safe spaces because they can't handle opinions other than their own.

I guess not wanting to get raped, blown up and run over makes you a whiny SJW in his mind.

Fuck this guy.

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>>128295655
I lost.

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>>128298094
Perhaps, but without using those symbols he may never have gotten the initial attention in those times when we we're still 90% of the population.
>"all press is good press"

Rockwell tried with different symbols and though he reached many people it didn't take off into something tangible and threatening in the political sense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMDu_eVHCAo

fyi if you watch jordan from the 'bite sized philosophy' channel instead of his you are a faggot

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>>128299240
Typo
>Dr. Pierce* tried

>>128287625
Get rekt, faggot.

>>128288272
Flags on /pol/ really help the divide.

>>128297386
Or, alternatively, not free.

[The USA has ~25% of the world's prison population at ~4% of the world's overall population.]

>>128290894
He's worried the nations, on leaving the EU, would become too insular. It's the kind of thing that could lead to some real nastiness over borders and resources.

>>128299138
I feel like there's a difference between letting everyone in without any checks and having a reasonable immigration system.
You don't seem very smart desu

>>128288803

Oh it's the guy who uses apostrophe's in all the place's.

How can the EU be expected to have a cohesive military with all its infighting? They'd be telling a patchwork army to kill their patchwork people.

It doesn't wash. I'm tired of this fundamental assumption that we all have to work with each other. We can leave each other alone and be done with it.

>>128299260
I always watch the whole Jordan clips, never these things from Bite Sized Philosophy or, even worse, (((Davie Addison)))

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>>128298835
what? This board is literally 50% natsoc and 50% really right wing libertarianism. It is a home of many enemies to peterson and his leftist, or centrist crap, and also to you if you dont like us.

What kind of joke "science" is he "teaching"? Every clip from his lectures is smalltalk with his students whom he talks to like they're his children.
He's exactly what is wrong with modern academia.

>>128287366
I wish Jordan Peterson was my uncle.

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>>128291726

I posted this, then screencapped it and Tweeted it to Peterson in reply to a tweet he had posted just 3 minutes before, so I know he's probably seen it. No reply.

There's no way you can shill for Solzy and not know about (((them))).

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>>128287625
>from a roach

I want to meet Peterson, he seems like a really good man.

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>>128299685
close but this is more accurate

>>128300190
does it matter then if we are hateful of him or not then? If he nudges people towards this place they can get more learnedness about the JQ. And thats still a win. However, the people here should be aware that he is not an endpoint and that he is completely wrong on the JQ, on racial realism and many other topics.

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>>128287366

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>>128300622
>not using the Big Five model
autist

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>>128292905

He rejects certain political ideologies out of hand, whereas I believe he needs to open his mind to the hard truth that not many ideas or practices are completely worthless or evil, and even more sobering, those ideas and practices are sometimes necessary if your nation is in a dire state.

The border between "good" and "evil" in real life is nebulous. This isn't an archetypal fairy tale where he can label everyone neatly.

In Peterson's mind, it seems that a democracy begging to be raped and destroyed from within and without is better than than an Authoritarian state that is strong and cohesive, to paraphrase one of evil Hitler's speeches.

Someone really needs to expand Calhoun's behavioral sink experiment.
Take a group of mice in a finite environment with unlimited resources. But, when the behavioral decline starts, inject into the group mice from a different group. The mice from the different group should be from an environment that had the restrictions that limited their population.

What does pol think would happen??
What does pol think would happen to the original inhabitants?

>>128287625
he's different, he's sorted out

>>128287959
Memeth my son.

>>128291566
a man can dream

>>128290927
>>128290622
KEK how the fuck does that work?

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>>128301181
>He rejects certain political ideologies out of hand

the thing is, fascism is not an ideology that is "out of hand". It has strong work ethics, good standards for marriages and all sorts of things. It even allows for many freedoms still.

It more or less the default choice for a civilization if there were no hostile outside influences as we have now. The most amounts of people can be happy and attain some form of satisfaction.

Monogamy ensures that most able and non shitty men have wives. Strong police presence and state means less hostile influences like drugs and degenerate culture that promotes that.

Money goes into improving the genetic pool so that cripples, ill people get born less. But at the same time it often does show much mercy towards that are afflicted by it all.

Traditionalism, monarchies and other states were part of humanities history, for the majority of the time, because they worked well. Even when we had liberal periods of degeneracy before. What we experience with democracy today is nothing new you know. Evolution dictates so that progress is extremely slow, and that we may experience states of mind of the past still.

What you will most likely see, the path that humanity will choose will be ultra fascism. The only thing that the cycles have brought is that in each cycle between fascism and degeneracy is that fascism has grown stronger. More refined, longer lasting in duration. While degeneracy and "democracy" has stagnated. There were kiddy diddlers and trannies in the weimar republic you know. But with time, the "Facistic" white science has produced an immumerable amount of good stuff to become even better humans.

>>128299597

He didn't make that distinction. His fault. Take it up with him. I judge by what he says, not by what he may have forgotten to say.

>>128302248

"Reject out of hand" means reject immediately by default because because.

2nd, Fascism is more of a way of going about doing things, a mode of operation, than an it is an ideology.

>>128301241
Explaining, with a bit of Peterson's teachings, the infinite resources would appear to be overwhelming and chaotic to the new mice for two reasons (one of them being connected with the other):

1. They don't know how to act in an environment with unlimited resources

2. They are still hard-wired to participate in society as if there were a very finite number of resources.

You can see this in Europe with Eastern Muslims. It is far more complicated because those Muslims are not only bringing their mentality from a 'finite resource' environment; but they are also bringing their mentality and culture from a long history 'finite resource' environments. So that makes them far less malleable and much more dangerous. Not to mention that those people who were granted access to the EU for reasons of mercy and 'refugee protectionism' were probably not at the top of their own dominance hierarchy to immigrate to the U.S. under the basis of their own merit.

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>>128302555
fascism is complicated, but if explained as it is tied to the cycle of civilizations. It is more or less a funnel. During the times of degeneracy, when life is easy, a lot of genetic malformed arise. Weak, nonfunctional people that cannot even procreate a lot of the time. This cycle that we have gotten is now is thanks to the fact that we have become so great as humans that % of power that we have and can influence nature with has grown out of proportion. Thus in no longer does it naturally for us.

Fascism for modern times more or less would mean to cull the genetic maliformed, and to create a system that is sustainable again. Because the degenerate jews/liberals have allowed for way too much control to be slipped by. And the freedom that people had did not result in actual good use of that, but the people became mutants and were unable to sustain their own lifeforce.

It is a cry of humanity, not knowing what to do, being overburdened by so many dumb religions and philosophical flows of retardation. The jews because of their mind virus were so cocksure of it all that basically nobody opposed them until now.

All it took was a couple of us to say "well you jews are fucking retarded, tikkun olam? God body being destroyed? Fug, you guys are schizophrenics and really fucking stupid, I wanna go inna space, make like your ancestors and just fucking all die already"

and thus this creed is coming into reality.

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>>128301181
is this the result of burger education or you didn't actually take the time to understand what he's saying?

he rejects all authoritarian ideologies
however he doesn't reject policies that a certain authoritarian regime would enforce just as long as the fucking individual gets to choose to do it
he advocates for the education of the individual so that the individual would come to the conclusion that he should act a certain way, restrict himself in certain ways, even though he is not restricted by the government because conviction of truth is the most powerful motivator, much more than fear of the government

all authoritarian regimes fail
all democracies fail
it's a never ending cycle, except if you break it by educating your voters to understand the truth and to willfully renounce selfishness all the while being motivated to be productive for their own sake

taxing with 5% a highly productive $5000000 worth individual who also does charity and produces goods for the betterment of mankind is much more effective than taxing with 50% a mediocre $50000 worth individual who keeps all that the state doesn't steal from him... that's how you beat social democracy
let's not even get started on fascism and communism

>>128302248
The problem with fascism is that it IS an ideology. It is something that you are subordinate to because you are a slave to your GOD. Your GOD is fascism and you do anything and everything for it. Ideologies divide people and throw away the Western values of seeking out The Truth. That's why Western civilization is so successful: people utter The Truth when the see it and society can use that important mechanism to orient itself across time.

Here's the problem. If fascism were a True mode of operating, then it would be something of a force that would withstand the test of time and would provide a social game in which people can participate in over and over again in a harmonious concert of cooperation and competition. Fascism does not accomplish this because you lose if you don't coincide with the irrational preconditions that have been set by fascist ideology (i.e. biological or genetic standards and it doesn't allow any "game" for anyone who may be an anomaly to transcend the standards that are set - like people with genius level IQ or high creativity).

Fascism has nothing to do with Truth and speaking The Truth is orders of magnitude more powerful in combating threats (like Jews or niggers or shitskins as you would say) IF they were actually threats to the foundations of Western Civilization (they quite possibly are). You embrace an ideology that is built on irrationality and an unbelievably weak foundation. Speaking The Truth is more robust. You haven't uttered a single fact nor have you concocted a single rational or logical thought in your diatribe against Peterson.

You are an ideologue and you are doing EVERYTHING right to discredit and weaken any robust movement that people are taking to counter the corruption and pathological ideologies growing in The West (i.e. EU ideology, white guilt, victimhood, refugee and Muslim over-sympathy).

Just FUCK off. You are no better than the SJWs and you are pissed because JP exposes that.

>>128301241
Let's call the first group of mice A, and the second group B.

Group A has strength in resources and security, but practically no competition within the group. Group A would therefore be lazier, less active, and less goal driven than a control set of Mice. They are resourcefully strong, but mentally weak, thus the aforementioned decline in behavior.

Group B comes from an environment with constraints and limitations. In order for the mice in that group to survive, they have to compete over resources and presumably space. They are much more goal driven and motivated than a control set of mice.

When Group B enters Group A's space, it will naturally go for as many resources as possible. For Group B, the focus is survival and getting your fill before someone else does. Group A, not used to competition, would either struggle to get resources or simply not care. After a while, there would be more offspring from Group B than Group A, with some intermingling from Group B males with Group A females (mostly because the Group B males are so much more goal oriented and want to reproduce ASAP). After a while, a majority of descendants would come from Group B.

[spoiler]Sound familiar?[/spoiler]

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>>128303637
Its not a cycle that is tied to anything moral you dumb fuck, its just a consequence of being human and being part of this world that is changing, shifting. Your morality, as the one of peterson is weak and just part of these many retarded philosophical flows that are wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8N3FF_3KvU

The r/K selection cycle can be proven with evidence and science. The "fill in this gap of humanity once religion was removed with more bullshit that doesnt work but feels really good" is not part of that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rOb_z-yYrU

Absurdism, nihilism and whatever comes out of it is the answer. As that seems to be the nature of us compared to reality. The ubermensch with the fascism is what will come out of it, no matter how much you cry, plead and appeal emotions to with.

>>128302642
Ok, so maybe you could tweak it. From the group with limited resources, identify their hierarchy, and take those ones at the bottom of it. Maybe that's not possible though with mice. I think also you could, when the population decline of the original group becomes evident, inject 10 percent of the size of their group.

It would be interesting to see where foreign mice end up in the native dominance hierarchy.

I bet though it would mirror what we see in the western world.

>>128287625
Not an argument Mehmet, go back to fucking you boy slave.

>>128290050
The EU is shit, fuck off with your globalist wanking.

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>>128303821
fascism = truth

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/11261872/James-Watson-selling-Nobel-prize-because-no-one-wants-to-admit-I-exist.html

at least our modern version is. Not sure what it was in the past. But we are using all of the science to become better people. Look at pic related too for example.

You are fucking dumb and know nothing of history and reality.

>>128292440
who is this frank? give me some rundown on this

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>>128304199
we cannot even get over how much of this truth there is, and how much of it your party tries to suppress.

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>>128304039
HA HA

>>128287366
>nations are large scale a safe spaces
>we're all individualz mann!!!
I fucking hate liberals

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Fuck that centrist bullshit

CHAOS UP IN THIS MOTHERFUCKER

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>>128304199
>>128304356
Also to add: the peterson fags have some of pic related in their blood. Not sure if its just some attentionwhore or not. But they forget all of this, and then continue on their merry way the next day.

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>>128304523
nihilism is not something that is good for you unless you have enough IQ points, kek. But if you are brave enough, valiant enough and truthful enough, you will come out of it as an ubermensch.

I don't waste my entire life on pol so I have no idea who or what this frank bs is, but the 1st post is right you know.

Dumb ass secret club kids need to grow up, individuality was invented to make a difference where mediocrity can't.

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>it's a jordan gets choked up talking about his family episode
https://youtu.be/zFBZDpy-tZU?t=34m34s

>>128304887
would being an ubermensch imply some sort of self control then?
because if nothing actually matters then heroin addiction is among the things that you shouldn't care about.
however, if you refrain from instant gratification then you do it with some sort of expectation which means that, well, you acknowledge the future and you've learnt the meaning of sacrifice... just like the bible folk did back in the neolithic
i guess congratulations are in order

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>>128303637

>however he doesn't reject policies that a certain authoritarian regime would enforce just as long as the fucking individual gets to choose to do it

Question your fundamental premise. What if a state degenerates to the point that, in order implement "policies that a certain authoritarian regime would enforce" you must first have an Authoritarian state? What if you need an Authoritarian state in order to get a god damn thing done that could save your nation from guaranteed ruin, even if that Authoritarian state runs the risk of destroying you as well, though not as certainly as the former route? Is the Authoritarian state not preferable?

>it's a never ending cycle, except if you break it by educating your voters to understand the truth and to willfully renounce selfishness all the while being motivated to be productive for their own sake

Suppose the voters are not educated. Furthermore, that they do not wish to be. Even further, they don't consciously realize the effects of their ignorance and their actions which are destroying the entire social and political fabric and leaving themselves AND us prone to invaders.

What then?

>
taxing with 5% a highly productive $5000000 worth individual who also does charity and produces goods for the betterment of mankind is much more effective than taxing with 50% a mediocre $50000 worth individual who keeps all that the state doesn't steal from him... that's how you beat social democracy

That is not the world we live in. We do not live in the premise on which you have founded your argument. The Welfare state is a dysgenics program which has spawned millions of illiterate cunts, the Warfare state has made an empire of the United States and done a fine job of provoking the hatred of the world. All the while the debt mounts and the international bankers get their cut.

>>128304039

We know this r/k shit already, the welfare state has synthesized an environment of abundance for the dumbest cunts who then spawn like the vermin they are.

>>128287625
fuck off roach

>>128305929
>What if a state degenerates to the point that, in order implement "policies that a certain authoritarian regime would enforce" you must first have an Authoritarian state?
If that's the case then people literally don't deserve to have it better. Stop thinking you have to take care of everyone and everythign would be better if we do things your way.

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>>128305652
You do not see it the same way as I do.

Nihilism is a complicated process. It more or less is impossible to fully attain in this world. Because if you went 100% nihilistic you would lack the mental capacity to even make a decision about food.

But its a great mind script, it eradicates all thoughts, all text. But since you need your mind, and language to live, you start to reform it, at least I had. To things that do work. I chose truth as my founding core. Based around that I rebuild my brain, my ideology and carefully slunk into ultra fascism.

Not because I was angst. But because being /fit/ means having some standards for food and exercise. I also got a 40 hour job after that because work standards seem to be important for humans. Also money. With nihilism I had no reason not to work.

Because basically all the jew lies that prevented me, and the youth that are still entrapped by it today. Were gone. If you self actualize through nihilism and find your inner core. The filthy vile tendrils of the jew, into your brain, become unconnected.

Many people here do it at a slower rate, because nihilism is also just the "forget this information" mechanism of the brain. But if you were to "unreasonably" sever all connections, and as I have rebuild them with scientific truth. You get to my position. To that of ultrafascism. And you may spew all kinds of poison and stupid emotions at me. But I can honestly say that everything I have in my brain is based around truth.

Unlike peterson I am more pure and closer to the reality than him and his followers.

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>>128306390

>If that's the case then people literally don't deserve to have it better

I've said it for years: they get the domination they deserve. We all know this.

Problem: I'm here as well. I won't be dragged into the Hell they waddle into.

>Stop thinking you have to take care of everyone

Strawman

>and everythign would be better if we do things your way.

and again.

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>>128306256
peterson would say that the only way to fix this is with cuddles and good feelings and hugs yaaaaaaaaaaaay :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

feel happy because fathers and yaaaaaaaaaaaay :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

but what happens when you get so many leechers to your system. and also get a crazy religious cult that blocks you from the door from fixing that kind of problem?

oh no, then its scary "fascism", and "but muh poor jews got persecuted by da abil nazi's :(((((((((((((((((((((((("

fascism in what we desire is closer to the many pics in this thread. We just want to fix the problems that need removal of bad elements to be fixed. You need to break a few jew omlettes for that sadly :(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

>>128292422
Peterson takes his archetypes too far. The left and right are not determined by chaos and order. It's a strange dichotomous breakdown. I'm not sure how Communism, for instance, is more chaos than Nazism in practice.

And to say nationalism could subsume the individual in this context? Are we to assume that post-national authorities aren't damaging to individual rights? Basing your polity around your nation, decentralizing things, those would promote individual rights. When you live in a multicultural society you're whatever race or ethnicity you are. When you live in a homogeneous society, you're an individual.

Peterson is strange to me. I like a lot of what he says about ethics, psychology, and history, but his interpretations of religious doctrine and contemporary politics is rather weak imo. I fully understand his evolutionary perspective on religion being a mechanism for distilling moral principles in an almost memetic sense, but it's still unfalsifiable and I sometimes think he reads a little too much into things. It's very easy to get carried away with assuming things into ancient texts. His passion is a double edged sword.

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>>128305929
>What if you need an Authoritarian state in order to get a god damn thing done
well isn't that a pickle? But the bigger pickle would be "who gets to be the guy that has the authority and how do we trust him?" because you can get a message across either by the value of the message and the messengers or by the sword, just look at the spread of christianity and islam
guess which one is responsible for over 250 million deaths? not to say that the other is responsible for none, well actually the message isn't, the messengers are.... still nowhere close to 250 million
also, we're not in a point where you would need an authoritarian state to do shit

>Suppose the voters are not educated. Furthermore, that they do not wish to be. Even further, they don't consciously realize the effects of their ignorance and their actions which are destroying the entire social and political fabric and leaving themselves AND us prone to invaders.
What then?
well that's a long winded phrase for nothing. if you educate them young and cultivate the desire to know and to have an impact in society then you don't have this problem
you don't get to educate the demographic that watches honey boo boo, that ship sailed ages ago, you get to their children

also, the tax thing that i described is what's going on in the US and IT made it the superpower it now is. taxing apple and microsoft buys you the nukes and the tomahawks and the aircraft carriers with which you "provoke" hate around the world. where exactly except middle eastern shitholes i wouldn't know, i myself am quite ambivalent towards burgers
want to know what a welfare state looks like? get on a plane and come for a visit. see what happens when you don't have any apples or microshafts to tax because the taxes are 46%. we'd like to provoke some of the world too but, alas, no money to buy aircraft carriers

>>128307179
We already know how he's gonna react. He's a softie. When men rise up and defend their nations he's going to throw a fit that Hitler is returning and other bull shit when all they're going to be doing is defending their birth right.

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>>128307670
Look upon this board and despair because your narrative and theories do not work. It is a movement with many agreed upon basic things. Like racial realism, the removal of jew and many other things. Through these many years of discourse we managed to make quite a nice script, all without a leader. You do not think that we wont be able to manage further still? Kek.

many people do not like this fact, but we are actually secretly very far intermingled with the scientific world. We are a decentralized white supremacy technocracy.

>>128295119
Heard of a German guy coming here to Romania because he was called weird and a nazi just for liking conspiracy theories and speaking of the Illuminati, yet never hinting that it's the jews. It doesn't make you any less weird here in Romania, but calling out the jews doesn't land you as a social outcast or in prison.

>>128289024
Why would they want to join the EU when all of Europe will become Roachistan in 100 years?

>>128307468

Peterson talks about nuance and "not all X are like that" and then has very simplified, polar outlooks on certain massive and complex ideologies and ideas.

This shit isn't just snakes and dragons and lazy virgin twats sitting on a pile of gold waiting for a man to be a hero and kill Mufasa and Pinocchio or whatever the fuck.

He can't accept the fact that his ideal Libertarianish society can likely only come about in an ethno-state the race of which has a high average IQ. But he would probably take issue with such a state.

In the multi-kulti shit pit we have now, it's unworkable, but he seems to see nothing wrong with it because he's a Liberal Baby Boomer.

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>>128306781
> you need your mind, and language to live
so god uses the word to create order out of chaos
>To things that do work
so Abel makes the correct sacrifice while Cain blames God
>I chose truth as my founding core.
so there is no redemption without acknowledgment

.... and, most importantly
>With nihilism I had no reason not to work.
>means having some standards for food and exercise
>I also got a 40 hour job after that because work standards seem to be important for humans

fuck it man. congratulations. you not only came to the conclusions some neolithic guys came to before they invented writing but shit, you just flat out lie to yourself and come up with alternative definitions for nihilism to justify the fact that you're following them without any understanding of their nature

you're a fucking "believer". you believe in some shit you made up because you saw it works just like christians believe in god because his teachings just work and it's easier than to understand it at a deeper level

also, nihilism means to negate the system, you don't get to pick and choose which aspects of the system you negate
you get to pick the system but then, that's it, it's fucking gone

>>128308053
so, basically you're agreeing with me that the message is more important that it being enforced by an authoritarian leader
jesus fucking christ you have some weak skills in understanding the written word

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>>128309535
You have no idea what you are talking about, applying nihilism to a human will usually create diverse results.

Most of the time the person who enters it becomes a degenerate, hedonistic person. But if you know that there is no reason for anything. Why WOULDNT you become a fascist. Why WOULDNT you self improve? There is literally no reason not to do these things, just as there is no reason to do these things.

Nihilism with me has meant that the control tendrils that the jew has put into this society, through marketing, music, and other media, have no effect on me anymore.

The feelings of disgust are stronger than your whole philosophy. And with nihilism I realize that I always had these feelings. I always hated degenerates, I always hated weed culture, I hated alcohol and drinking culture. I hated a great many things. And it happens to be that fascism also hates these things, so I became that.

There really is nothing wrong with that. If one like myself can remove the jew tendrils from key words like hitler, and scary trauma based images that the jew has put in movies that give lots of frownies :((((((((((((((, then all is well.

>>128307670

>"who gets to be the guy that has the authority and how do we trust him?"

As I said in >>128305929
>"What if you need an Authoritarian state in order to get a god damn thing done that could save your nation from guaranteed ruin, even if that Authoritarian state runs the risk of destroying you as well, though not as certainly as the former route? Is the Authoritarian state not preferable?

>well actually the message isn't, the messengers are

No. Conquest is fundamental to Islam.

>we're not in a point where you would need an authoritarian state to do shit

Yet. We are coming up on that point soon. Judges usurping Legislative power is only one example. No one does anything about it.

> if you educate them young and cultivate the desire to know and to have an impact in society

They didn't.

>then you don't have this problem

We do.

>also, the tax thing that i described is what's going on in the US and IT made it the superpower it now is, taxing apple and microsoft buys you the nukes and the tomahawks and the aircraft carriers with which you "provoke" hate around the world

The Federal Reserve, fiat currency and international banking fuckery made the U.S the unsustainable megalomaniacal motherfuck it is now. You conflate a successful free market with a military empire funded with play-money which is fast running out.

Military interventions and the overthrowing of governments in the Middle East (Operation Ajax being one example) for sake of geo-political and monetary profit, often ostensibly for Israel, are why the U.S is hated, along with the holier than thou attitude.

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>>128310220
>But if you know that there is no reason for anything. Why WOULDNT you become a fascist. Why WOULDNT you self improve?
because dopamine bro
because dopamine
when you don't actively suppress your reward center you will reward yourself
if you don't actively suppress it and you don't want the reward then let's just say your phenotype is not quite according to what evolution made the human race thus far
you can rationalize the fact that you suppress it because "why wouldn't you" all you want but that's not how the brain works

>>128287366
Depends if the Eu is in the dragon slaying business

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>>128311157
well I am what I said and it all works with me. I am pretty sure that I am a human too. Not sure if there are any additional steps, or lacking some steps that you guys didnt have. But it sure as hell works with me. I am /fit/, avoid degenerates and generally feel okay. Unlike many of my age companions I am also employed. I am not fat, have good muscle mass, lead a non sedentary lifestyle, have no std's and generally feel fine. Body wise. So fine actually that on some days I have so much energy that I forget to sleep.

The only thing I am a little bit lacking in is in the social area but what can you expect with so many people still being tied to the jew tendrils around me lol. Its one of the prices of living in a civilization that is in the decay part of the cycle.

In past cycles cities like sodom and gomorrah used to be like that as well. All the socialness and connectivity made people unanimously shitty, and changed the average nature of every man and women living there.

>>128311717
of course you are human but the point of your original post was that you could apply what you do to the masses
that's where it gets tricky because your neural architecture doesn't sound like what you would encounter in said masses

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>>128312058
well no shit, I wish I could copy paste all the good parts of it. But most lives of most humans are too complicated to find out which key points shaped a brain how, and then there is the genetic question added to it as well.

But I feel really fine, without gods, without jew social leaders, without any kind of things like that. I think that the pool of people like me may be relatively small, maybe even older but they still do exist out there.

What worst is that I may look at a number, and that number may give me the greatest of panics. If it is tied to a graph, or a scientific journal. Not many people have that kind of thing. It would be great if one could foster something like that. To make the numbers which are impersonal, more personal still.