This kills the gaytheist/fagnostic.

So this is the new irreducible eye fallacy? Consciousness is evidence of God - not the quirks of Darwinian evolution.

>>128286111
Let anyone with eyes see, let anyone with ears hear.

A fool looks at this and says only a God could create something like this out of thin air. Another fool becomes convinced that it could only come about on its own, as if by magic.

A truly open minded person looks at evolution and the complexity of the universe and sees that a greater power, a mighty force had a hand in its making. God created the systems of the universe, and evolution is proof of God's hand. He didn't micromanage, he made a universe that unfolds all its own into endless complexity.

>>128286111
What am I looking at here?

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>>128286598
Looks like some kind of biological 3-phase induction motor.

>>128287148
its the mechanics of a cellular cillia if I'm not mistaken, one of those little wiggly threads unicellular organisms use to move about

This thread AGAIN??

>>128286111
>I don't know how it developed over millions of years of trial and error therefore a wizard did it, have some faith man

in my country we accept the gay

it make us strong

we very smart

>>128286577
And another fool adopts the middle view to try and appear enlightened

>>128288055
It's a flagellum

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it make u go weeeeeeeeee so it dose

>>128286111
>virtually infinite number of permutations over a timespan of billions of years in a universe so vast that even the smartest of us fails to seriously comprehend
>people don't understand what virtually infinite means
>people don't understand that we may be the only intelligent life in the universe, some sort of cosmic rarity
>personifying the forces of the universe to come up with god
>people yell and scream at each other over such frivolous bullshit
>...
>profit

>>128288890
>there is literally no observation of macroevolution, ever, or biogenesis, but I am truly enlightened and totally not taking it on faith that science can prove it

Keep tipping

>>128289073
And another fool chastises those who hypothosize about the anatomy of the universe and choose to bask in ignorance instead

>>128290003
Ah, solipsism, the answer to life itself

>I didn't see x, so x cannot exist unless I finally see x

>>128289910
>"virtually infinite "
> biologists tries math, sees big number
>goes back to bird watching/stamp collecting

Wew

>>128286111
Do you have to keep posting this to graduate Sunday School or something?

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>>128286111

This was refuted in a court of law, Kitzmiller vs. Dover:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HZzGXnYL5I#t=1h011m10

Incomplete versions of the same mechanism exist in other modern microorganisms, used for a variety of other things like poison injection.

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>>128286111
Why we should care?
being an atheist or a believer doesn't change what has already happened. We can't go back time to see the start of the universe and we don't have the tools to see the full course of the evolution.

>>128286577
This

Can someone post a gif of how DNA replicates itself

Shit's crazy

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Anyway, here's a video of bacteria evolving resistance to successively stronger layers of antibiotics in real time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHI45garS3g

There is no real distinction between "macro" and "micro" evolution. Evolution does not only happen to small things.

Bacteria can self-replicate, humans can self-replicate. Evolution acts on anything which self-replicates and is susceptible to mutation.

Actual biologists do not use the terms "micro evolution" or "macro evolution". They were invented by creationists to concede examples of evolution that happen fast enough to directly observe (because bacteria reproduce and die so quickly) while still denying the evolution of animals which take much longer to evolve significantly because of their comparatively longer lifespan.

Critically, that video shows the evolution of a useful adaptation, something most creationists deny is possible, claiming instead that all mutations are negative/harmful.

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>>128286111

>>128286111
But why do we have to worship this god? Can't we aknowledge that he exists and then move on?
When you see a guy who made a really cool thing you tell him
>good job
You don't get on your knees and suck him off while offering him a goat as a sacrifice

>>128286111
sweetie, it's not hard to believe that it took millions of years of evolution for eyes to actually form. you don't need to believe in an imaginary man in the sky, honeybun.

>>128292767
Post tits

>>128290003
There is no such thing as macro evolution, it's just something religious ignorance made up as a strawman. evolution is incremental. once those increments add up to enough, you can then you can see what you ignorantly claim to be macro evolution.

this is also reducible to a molecular ejector used to disburse poison. funny thing is, your looking at an artist's rendering of the mechanism, it's only molecules in size.

science harder, troll further faggot.

>>128292762
Unless he tells you he's a jealous mother fucker and if you don't worship him bad things will happen.
And then he floods the planet.

>>128286111

Wow, this fallacy is old as fuck.
This was refuted by pointing out that evolution is not a direct assembly process, but that certain elements can be added or removed, such as a sort of scaffolding process when constructing a building.

>>128286529

Consciousness is completely dependent upon
physical brain matter, it is directly effected by it can can be damaged or destroyed with the brain.

You god is shit.

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>>128292762
>But why do we have to worship this god?

Because the Bible says if you don't believe, you will suffer eternal torment. Only it's unfalsifiable because it happens after you die.

If you do believe, you instead enjoy eternal paradise. Also unfalsifiable, also after you die.

If you want to be reunited with your loved ones, you'd better convince them to believe all of this! You don't want them to suffer forever, do you?

By the way, this isn't simply designed to compel you to believe and spread it to other hosts. If anybody tells you that, they're being manipulated by Satan, the invisible trickster behind anything you see or hear that is contrary to doctrine.

>>128292876
This isn't /b/.

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>>128291084

They will ignore this post because they have NOTHING

>>128293531

It's ok. We can gas them once we're done with the Muslims and Scientologists.

>>128293298
Also it's worth noting that evolution only has to be "good enough" that's why you have bird with wings that can't fly.

>>128293485
Don't forget the built in failsafe called the antichrist. If someone comes along and removes all the human perversions of Christianity, the existing power players will just call them the antichrist.

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>>128293500
If they wanna act like a woman then they're gonna be treated like a woman. Tits out, faggot

>>128286529
Lol u arent actually concious faggot ur an organic robot who thinks he has a special magic spirit soul

>>128293485
I'd rather believe in roko's basilisk than god. Essentially the same thing but i only have to believe in the basilisk to be spared rather than be a retard who wastes their sundays

>>128286111
Funny how the cell membrane portion of the flagella motor is related to the ATPase of the electron transport chain.

>>128294167
We have something anon.
A consciousness, sense of self or something but something is there. Otherwise people who are the same like twins wouldn't be two seperate consciouses

>>128293917

Also, large numbers of people realizing what Christianity is and turning on it is a sign that the end is upon us. So the remaining believers will feel vindicated and only cling harder.

It's really clever if you think about it. This is some top tier memery.

>>128291084
>incomplete

>>128286577
>>128289073
>>128290443
All whilst this fool laughs while looking at other fools fool around foolishly.

>>128286111
LOOK!
> THIS slightly complex natural biological mechanism proves the existence of MY personal caring god that loves ME.

inb4
> Responds to prayers literally not once

>>128294402

Yes? You can see it's less complex than the spinning version and used for a different purpose.

Remember, Behe's premise is that there not only doesn't exist any less complex version of the same mechanism, but there *cannot* exist any less complex version, because he proposes it's only useful for propulsion and if you remove any part of it, it can't be used for anything.

>>128294381

>Otherwise people who are the same like twins wouldn't be two seperate consciouses

yes they would, because they are different sets of atoms. Twins are not 100% identical down to cells anyway, dumbass.

>>128293333

Digits of truth, Christcuck faggots blown the fuck out as usual.

>>128294643
>burger education
>calling other people dumbasses

>>128294698
Allah is the one true god anyway

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>>128294700
Leaf calls out burger. Kek

>>128294739

Sandniggers btfo too

Clean your room.

>>128293333
Hell is for ever!

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>>128294739

Muslims are even further gone than OP

>>128292762
>>128293311
All these concepts like "worship" have gained a lot of baggage over the years. God defined the universal law that everything else is derived from, if you stray from the Law you are in sin, a state that will lead to your destruction. If you find and follow the Law you are rewarded, worship is a way to formalize that into maintainable rituals that encourage and celebrate harmony with God.

>>128294398
To be fair, the west is not very kind to Christianity at the moment. It isn't as if people are turning their backs on it, but instead turning their swords on it, whereas muslims are welcomed with open arms by the same gullible retards. They lament the anti-gay rhetoric espoused by radical christians which amounts to no wedding cake, whereas they would be thrown from buildings by radical muslims. Fucking lunacy is what it is.

>>128292762
So youd propose a sort of Disc-like acknowledgement but non-worship? That doesn't really work though. The reason there aren't atheists on the Disc is because the gods are certifiably real creatures who will throw lightning bolts up your ass if you don't believe in them. Which isn't how it is on Roundworld.

>>128294939

Hell is watching all the potential of human ingenuity being wasted on superstition, fear and wish fulfillment.

>>128295595

I don't see what you're talking about. Every atheist I know is strongly anti-Islam.

>>128295595

Well if it makes you feel any better, both religions are backward superstitious bullshit.

>>128286111
Life is truly amazing. This is what 3.7 billion years of evolution gives you.

>>128286577
Deism should make a comeback.

>>128296115
Ya

>>128295228
praise!

ITT
>im too dumb to understand biology so it means God exists

>>128296606
You can't prove he doesn't.

>>128296106

It is easy to boggle at the results, but it is still only as smart as trial and error. Evolution made some pretty stupid mistakes too.

>>128296745

You can't prove Tim doesn't exist. Tim is the God Eater. If any God existed, Tim would eat it immediately. Ergo, no God exists.

>christianity is true!

No, gnosticism is.

Your god kicked adam and eve out of paradise for doing something in a moment where they still hadn't eaten from the tree of knowledge and thus weren't able to tell right from wrong.

Sure he may have warned them, but they never knew it was wrong, only eating from the tree gives this knowledge, therefore your god is immoral.

Evolution IS science. This has no bearing on God's existence. Checkmate atheists.

>>128286111

if evolution was real we'd know about it by now, but top scholars have poured over the bible and found nothing there,
I mean, do you really think we all used to be monkey's in the jungle? then how come there's still loads of monkeys in
the jungle and they dont keep turning into people? face it, evolution is just a liberal trick designed by the jew to
corrupt our soft vulnerable children and make them turn away from good god almighty

>>128296984
Aha, if that is your belief, then that is fine. I'm a theist but I can't prove God exists either. Since I can't disprove him either I choose to believe in the 0.0000x% chance that he does.

I also choose not to believe in your Tim. It's a matter of believing or not believing which is totally irrelevant to whether he exists or doesn't.

>>128297343

Dogs came from wolves, yet we still have wolves.

>>128297531
says who?

LISTEN UP CHRISTARDS

Here's what you need to find, to prove that it is more likely there is a God creating things.

It's not going to be found in natural complex things because those things are still bound to known physical laws, they can be explained as such.

You need to find an animal that cannot be placed within a fossil record lineage. For example, a Hippo with the wings of a bird and a snake for a tail. There is no possible way this could have evolved because there is no presence of wings in the fossil record of similar creatures, and by all evolutionary science bird wings should be strictly confined to bird lineages. Every animal that exists so far can be explained through the fossil record, whales for example, we can see ancestors that have whale like features but either walked on land or were semi-aquatic.

SO, if God REALLY wanted to show himself, he would have created something that DEFIES natural order, like a whale with human arms or something.

Proof of god can't be found in natural, physical things that function by known laws and processes. Every single step of the evolutionary process is understood and proven to occur even if we can't literally see it happening in front of our eyes.

You need to prove that natural laws can be suspended, like for example, prove consciousness can exist without physical brain matter supporting it. This would be like showing that computer software can run without the hardware.

>>128297389

Apparently the point of it went over your head. It illustrates why "You can't prove X doesn't exist" is not valid reasoning. "Well you either believe or you don't" is the final fallback of the cornered apologist.

>>128297627

You can go outside and find wolves. They are a real animal. I'm unsure what you're disputing here.

Biology PHDs are the biggest atheists of all academia you know.

>>128297343

All life does not evolve at a constant rate, and lineages break off from one another. Some lineages die off and some remain. As groups split off, they evolve under different conditions. Some monkeys evolved to be smarter, while some stayed behind because they werent subjected to the same conditions.

>>128297706
no how do we know dogs came from wolfs? look at little tiny dogs, they used to be wolfs? fuck off

>>128297878

Dude, are you really this stupid? This has been known for a long time through genetics, you can LITERALLY look at the genes of living dogs and wolves. Stop now, you are just looking more and more retarded.

yes, your genes control the size of your body and this can change through generations, look at the average size of different races of humans.

>>128286111
Lol. There are multiple types of bacterial, eukaryal and archaeal flagella. We have multiple, reasonable hypotheses for how each system developed piece-by-piece.

You are so full of shit and ignorant.

>>128294939
proofs?

>>128298130
>genetics

most if not all the scientists who invented genetics were jews, just like climate change and gayness it's all bullshit designed to make our kids into sex slaves.

>>128297647
It is valid reasoning however, because you can't disprove it. I can't disprove Tim exists either but I choose not to believe in him.

Clean your room.

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>>128298406

Ok you're trolling

>>128286111
Your exploded appendix kills the theist and deist fags.

Assuming it doesn't kill you.

>>128286111
(((Biology)))

>>128296984

If tim ate god it means he is more powerfull then god there for tim is god , there god exist

>>128290003
>there is literally no observation
says the religious idiot, unironically, as he believes in an unobserved god as the only possible truth

>>128298553
You should have known that the second that retard pulled out "why are there still monkeys"

>>128296115

theres a small movement, the World Union of Deists

>>128292297
In an infinite universe evolution proves god exists because everything exists.

Look at WMAP

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>>128297343
>Hurr why are there still monkeys around if we evolved from them?

Try googling it, fucking impecile. There is literally no excuse to be this retarded when you have access to the internet.

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>>128286111

>>128299772
That's not evolution, that's semantics. You've misunderstood evolution, infinity, god and proof completely in one short sentence. Impressive in a way.

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Religion is not important. Focus on race.

>>128300254
No that's evolution. Gradual changes over time will eventually create something. With infinite chances everything exists.

"This is true of all thirty-two orders of mammals ... The earliest and most primitive known members of every order [of mammals] already have the basic ordinal characters, and in no case is an approximately continuous sequence from one order to another known. In most cases the break is so sharp and the gap so large that the origin of the order is speculative and much disputed ... This regular absence of transitional forms is not confined to mammals, but is an almost universal phenomenon, as has long been noted by paleontologists. It is true of almost all classes of animals, both vertebrate and invertebrate...it is true of the classes, and of the major animal phyla, and it is apparently also true of analogous categories of plants."

"The occurrence of genetic monstrosities by mutation … is well substantiated, but they are such evident freaks that these monsters can be designated only as 'hopeless'. They are so utterly unbalanced that they would not have the slightest chance of escaping elimination through stabilizing selection … the more drastically a mutation affects the phenotype, the more likely it is to reduce fitness. To believe that such a drastic mutation would produce a viable new type, capable of occupying a new adaptive zone, is equivalent to believing in miracles … "

"Take some matter, heat while stirring and wait. That is the modern version of Genesis. The 'fundamental' forces of gravity, electromagnetism and the strong and weak nuclear forces are presumed to have done the rest... But how much of this neat tale is firmly established, and how much remains hopeful speculation? In truth, the mechanism of almost every major step, from chemical precursors up to the first recognizable cells, is the subject of either controversy or complete bewilderment."


http://www.darwinismrefuted.com/short_history_01.html

Take the Redpill.

>>128300254
In an infinite universe there are infinite chances. So please tell me where the universe ends. NASA's current official stance is "larger than can be observed" and WMAP proves the universe has no curvitur this suggesting the universe streches on for infinity.

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>It's a stoner finds god in salmonella episode

>>128286577
A truly open minded person admits when they don't have an answer. You are just a retard.

>>128297878
Humans created dogs from wolves and other wild dogs through breeding you fucking waste case.

>>128300798
I don't give a shit where the universe ends. That's the dumbest false dichotomy I've ever seen. Does "we can't see the edge" prove god? I can't see god anywhere in the universe, does that make his absence infinite too?
"I don't know" is never proof that there is a god, religious people are just much more dishonest about admitting their ignorance.

>>128300426
That's the most childlike attempt to explain evolution I've ever seen. Evolution is selective, not random, so 'everything' doesn't just happen to pump out random animals. And even more importantly, it only applies to biological life. The theory of evolution doesn't describe the entire universe. If you seriously think that god evolved somewhere, following the evolution theory, then I'm not even sure you evolved, since natural selection is pretty deadly to retards.

>>128286111
This exposes the stupidity of the religious fundamentalist

>>128302090
>Does "we can't see the edge" prove god?

No but evolution does prove god exists because everything would exists in an infinite universe. It would be the same odds that you or I exist. Think about it. In an infinite universe through odds and chance you travel in a straight line from earth. Eventually millions of light years away you would eventually come across a planet like earth where life evolved in a different way and you could keep going on forever until you eventually find a creature with godlike powers. If the universe does not end then evolution proves everything exists somewhere in the universe.

>>128302090
>That's the most childlike attempt to explain evolution I've ever seen

Not applying evolution to other areas of science. You're the one with one dimensional thinking.

>>128292297
>Kishony Lab, Harvard Medical School / Technion -- Israel Institute of Technology

hmm

>>128299772
define god

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>>128302090
The curvitur of the universe would suggest that there is an edge or an end to the universe. In 2013 WMAP proved with a 99.96 % accuracy that the universe has no curvitur. Which would suggest that the universe streches on for infinity. If the universe is infinite then EVERYTHING exists.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem

>>128303326
Being with greater abilities than our own.

>>128303782
Dolphins have prehensile penises, are they god?

>>128296745
the burden of proof is on you

>the sun core is made of cheese
>you cant prove it isn't

>>128303326
Also the Christian Bible says worship no other god than me not there is no other god.

>>128303876
If you think a penis being larger is better then worship a dolphin. You'll still get an Idiot to tell you dolphins never existed when they go extinct.

>>128286577
These systems dont need the hand of a craftsmen to come into being though, when changing genetics you can create complex changes in an organism by altering single basepairs in the DNA. Take a flatworm for example. They have 1 chamber hearts. Scientics fucked with a single gene related to the creation of heart tissue during development. The resultbwas a fully formed 2 chambered heart. We do not understand the rules of the system but we do understand that those rules allow for sweeping changes in the system at the slightest provocation.

>>128294192
>i only have to believe in the basilisk to be spared

Sorry pal, but just believing isn't enough. You have to actively work to bring the basilisk into being.

Better get cracking if you want to avoid your punishment.

>>128303988
So an omnipotent creator of everything was created by the universe due to infinite permutations.

>>128304193
your mind is not prehensile

>>128286111
>science and logic
>ever being on the side of the theist
Lmao

>>128304529
I think you're the one with the non-prehensile brain you have trouble grasping forever and eternity. If things here on Earth exist through odds and chance with random changes in genetic sequences then everything exists through random changes in an infinite universe because there are infinite odds. Just like me and you will one day possibly millions of years in the future will have this argument again.

>>128293333
The brain is just an antenna, you need it to work to receive the signal.

>>128286111
yeah there is a Maker, but "holy god, merciful and watchful in the high heavens"? kek grow up faggot
it's nigger tier to acknowledge anything thorough belief, such as religion

>>128305195
Actually science is on the side of theists no matter which theists you are. All God's exist in an infinite universe. Thor, the Easter bunny, Santa Clause, Sheva and Allah all exist somewhere in the universe.

>>128305336
The difference is that the universe, for sake of sanity, is described as infinite, when in reality it is merely vast beyond our ability to perceive it, and it has not existed in this state for eternity, but some dozen billion years.

Now, if you get into dimensional theory, you start verging on the truly infinite.

>>128293333
Yet in an infinite universe you will be created just as you are now in some point in time in the infinite future through odds and chance.

>>128306436
>when in reality it is merely vast beyond our ability to perceive it, and it has not existed in this state for eternity

Ok prove it

>>128306436

I will agree that it does change with the makeup of the universe but space time has existed the way it has for eternity because you can't have existence without it. It has always existed because you can't have existence without it.

Theists should really really give up with their fight against evolution. You have much stronger (harder to prove wrong) positions but evolution is one where you get instantly BTFO'd when you try injecting ''intelligent design''. Evolution does not require a God at any step.

>>128303695
>>128305773
Isn't the universe still expanding? Which would mean it's not infinite.

Also if the natural laws are the same everywhere, I don't quite understand how you can have something existing that defies the natural laws.

>>128306729
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_universe

http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20160610-it-took-centuries-but-we-now-know-the-size-of-the-universe

>>128307010
We have no way of knowing how matter came into being, as we are not and likely never will be privy to that information, as we were not around to record it.

And does the universe exist if no one is around to notice it?

>>128307511
If you're going off the background radiation to measure the age of the universe how do you know you're not measuring the radiation from the creation of your solar system and not the creation of space time?

>>128296115
this ffs

>>128286577
If evolution is real how do you explain phlegelem quarts or nocturnal rocks?

>>128307782
Our sun isn't that old

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>>128308378
No it's not but thousands of other solar systems have been created around us how about one of them?

>>128293333
>you god is shit
So emotional.

>>128308551
It could be, and the oldest one would give us an approximate age of the universe itself.

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>>128289910
>you wouldnt get proof of the existence of GOD THE GREATEST by proving that some intelligence governed evolution of a cell, you would just get evidence of SOME CONSCIOUSNESS
>by pushing the christcuck meme you are actually making sure that scitards refuse frantically to give consciousness a chance
it's the old two pronged attack: separate religion from science by making them both retarded and neutered

>>128293917
>someone comes along and removes all the human perversions of Christianity
You think you know what youre talking about. Kek, try reading the doctrine and then offering criticisms..fedoracunt

>>128293500
Not exclusive to /b/, there are no girls on the internet.

>>128294192
>doesn't know what talking about
>looks retarded

>>128309390
Tithe or be shunned from our temple we have built. Render unto the Vatican what is the vatican's, render unto God what is God's.

>>128309117
I don't disagree with you. Extremism is extremism.

>>128288055
i had one of mine whiggling about your moms pussy, nerd!

>>128294739
>nigger sand rapist
>true god
Just

>>128309042
No the oldest solar system you can observe. Not the creation of space time. Which would open the question that if it happened once it can happen again and again for all eternity. Without space time nothing exists and space time is the universe.

https://youtu.be/MTY1Kje0yLg

>>128297628
> if God REALLY wanted to show himself

and why would he want todo that anon?
t Deist.

> You need to prove that natural laws can be suspended
or you could encapsulate the natural laws in a mini "universe" of our creation.
for example, if we created a computer simulation with ai characters that also discovered "god".

> prove consciousness can exist without physical brain matter supporting it
we are coming close, still possibly 50-100 years away, but its certainly getting closer.


Think about it like this anon:
> you play games right?
> if from a random event in the computer those game charaters became conscious
> where could they go in the game to see you playing?
> where could they go, and how would they prove they are playing in a game?
> they can't
> but for every "game" they is a player.
> tl;dr... God is just the person that started this "simulation", outside our reality, outside nature, super-natural.

Ask you self: If you we're watching your life, like on a game but couldn't intervene, what life would you want them to lead?
Are you leading that life now? Why not? :/

You see?
Simulation Theory is just for modern techno fags who hate to admit god was there all along, and they were too stupid to see it, and possibly feel guilty about their part in the destruction of faith.

>>128295923
Every atheist i know reverts to "all religions are bad" instead of addressing the obvious true issue in current year. Virtue signaling cunts

>>128295923
Point
>>128296038
In
>>128310476
Case

>>128309042
If space time was part of the big bang then that means the big bang was an infinite amount of time ago because space time didn't exist.

>>128310178
And thus be unobservable and therefore somewhat irrelevant to beings who exist in one state of the universe and care only for that state

>>128309117
omg that actually happened.

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>>128286111
creationism threads are really the newest rage on here huh

>>128310376
This is so retarded.

>>128305684
Luigi gets it.
Consciousness is metaphysical in quality

>>128286111
In this video you can see creationists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmlYe2KS0-Y

>>128310957
> This is so retarded.
non argument

>>128310476
Religion isn't inherently bad, but some of its most avid followers are.

There are the zealots and there are the rest of us. Zealots, by nature, are our enemy, because if we are not zealots like they are, they will harm us.

>>128310671
Yes but still infinite. So everything would exist.

>>128311322
Includinge God :)

>>128286529
That's not an eye. It's the propulsion mechanism for sperm.

>>128311322
Still reliant on a theoretical belief that space time is infinite

Oh, and I'm a theist BTW

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>>128286577
You sure type like a fool.

Why do you want to show everyone how "smart" you are? It's obviously forced. Your portrayal is awkward and unnatural. Fucking Reddit scum.

>>128301235
>waste case
Cringe

>>128311242
Whats the most zealous religious denomination?

>>128311701
Not a belief. WMAP and a lot of the new experiments support this. Now it's not proven but this is the way things are leaning. That may change but for now I like where it is going.

>>128312028
Leafs.

>>128312396
Next to leafs its islam. Prove me wrong

>>128293333
falling on the ol' "junk' DNA argument, I see
Your """science""" is shit.

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>>128286111
"Lol bro, shit is just random. We evolved from retarded monkeys n shieet"

>>128293298
Darwinian evolution is not even wrong. It's not experimental science; it's natural history or philosophy. Also, Darwinian evolution =/= Natural selection.
Now that we have gotten this out of the way, punctual equilibrium is the only reasonably way that Darwinian evolution would have taken place. Otherwise, it would be statistically impossible with the tiny number of intermediate stage fossils found, the fact that a small change more often is a disadvantage than having no change, etc.
What is the use of half an arm? Then why would arms evolve?
I know that there are morons on both sides of this debate.

>>128313645
I agree

see >>128295595

Islam flies in the face of western culture, and not because of our Christian influences.

>>128295759
Darwinian evolution is superstitious, its adherents have a fear of alternative explanations, and it is wishful thinking for those who adhere to a totally Naturalistic philosophy.

>>128314551
>posts picture of how insignificant the planet is
>w-we're god's ch-chosen people

>>128296106
The long time span was pretty much invented to justify the philosophy of Uniformitarianism, not the other way around.
From there on, it pretty much de-evolved into the quality of present day climate science.
>MUH BRAZILLIANS OF YEARS

>>128286111
Infinite chaos only produces more infinite chaos.
The order in our universe proves evolution just a theory from butt hurt Freemasons.

>>128296606
I was reading college biology books since I was in preschool, and you have the nerve to claim that I don't understand Darwinian evolution?
>>128297285
No. Darwinian evolution isn't experimental science. It's natural history or philosophy. Darwinian Evolution =/= Natural Selection.
Natural selection should be taught in Biology class. But Darwinian evolution should be taught in History or Philosophy class.

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>>128297343
The problem with the Creationism vs. Darwinian Evolutionism debates is dealing with the idiots on your own sides.

>>128315478
WTF is that angular diameter bullshit?

>>128314992
>Implying I believe in a kike on a stick

Im advocating for life being a lot grander and mysterious than it seems. Both atheists and institutionalised religions have it wrong.

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>>128286111
>This kills the gaytheist/fagnostic.
that's an ironic choice of words since christkikes deny god

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>>128293333
>but that certain elements can be added or removed, such as a sort of scaffolding process when constructing a building.
Why is it fedorafag atheists always act like evolution is some kind of bigger process that knows what to leave in and what to leave out? Pieces can't just be "removed" or "added" you silly sod, they would have to slowly develop over so many generations

Or am I missing the part where a blob of life in the ocean was magically born with the first spine in the entire universe and it was perfectly functional?

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>>128317383
>Or am I missing the part where a blob of life in the ocean was magically born with the first spine in the entire universe and it was perfectly functional?
how would you know until you have the evidence?
just assuming you know everything because you find a monkey fossil is what religioatheists do