How and why did the Soviet Union collapse?

cuz it was gay

Because the elites knew that it would collapse anytime anyway and Israel was already pretty well established.

>>128274528
Because gommunism doesn't work and it's purpose had been served, so the jew pulled the plug.

>>128274606
That's retarded. Soviets armed all of Israels enemies. I doubt Israel or Jews had anything to do with the collapse of the Soviet Union. It was a shitty system, just like the whole ideology of Communism, so it's a wonder it lasted as long as it did.

>>128274528
Jews found a new host

>>128274528
Kruschev let the system become easily corruptible allowing corruption to spread leading to the eventual collapse due to internal struggles while also receiving pressure from the west while also spending a lot of the gdp on keeping the military comparable to their counterparts ruining their economy and national unity in the process

File: maxresdefault (1).jpg (78KB, 1440x1080px) Image search: [Google]

78KB, 1440x1080px

Reagan made them knock down their border wall.
Without the wall capitalists flooded into the USSR and exploited all the defenceless workers.

>>128274570
Fpbp
Just like OP it realized how gay stuff was and an hero.

>>128274941
And removing Stalins policy of sending anyone who does not agree with him to work camps allowed the internal struggles to spread

File: 1495852563265.png (371KB, 536x622px) Image search: [Google]

371KB, 536x622px

>>128274528
The Jews could not make profits in or bring their new african goys to the USSR.

>>128275075
And Gorbachev really finished it off by softening up to the west removing any influence that the union had left in the world

>>128275045

You are now an honorary American. Congratulations.

>>128274528
The Soviet Union signed it's own death warrant by forcing unwilling states to become a part of it.
It was only a matter ot time when the domino effect of breaking apart would happen. And it did.

Don't work. Move along people, nothing to see here.

>>128274941
It was Brezhnev that saw the increase in corruption IIRC

>>128275491
>Brezhnev
that cater pillared eye bastard too

>>128275359
Stop annexing me USSR!!!!!!!!!@!

>>128274528
They called themselves Communists without actually being Communists.

They had no ideological foundation in the end.

China still functions because the Chinese have no soul and are basically robots.

>>128274863
>I doubt Israel or Jews had anything to do with the collapse of the Soviet Union
have you seen who their government was made out of during the late 80s?

>>128275806
I didn't ask for your opinion, non-country.

>>128274528
Corruption, horrible economics.

File: max1.jpg (135KB, 1300x882px) Image search: [Google]

135KB, 1300x882px

>>128275313
nooooooooooo

>>128275994
Ironic

>>128274863
Only after internationalist jews discovered America to be an easier target and reliable host than the USSR.

USSR ran out of other people's money.

>>128275359
This. People want to be with their own kind. People want to feel like they matter. Being a part of a country of hundreds of millions of people, all having different cultures, languages and genetics, makes you feel homeless and insignificant. Which is, of course, what you are. If there are millions of others ready to replace you, you are quite worthless to the society as a whole. And it's far worse if they don't share your genes, since then you truly are different people competing against each other. This is why EU will fall. If US continues on it's path of 'multiculturalism', it will fall too.

>>128275994
That's funny, I didn't see any Belgians in this thread...

File: ethnic_map_ussr_1974.jpg (282KB, 1342x941px) Image search: [Google]

282KB, 1342x941px

The Soviet Union was a multicultural state. All multicultural states have a sword of Damocles hanging above them, ready to drop during a period of crisis. When it drops they fall apart as different cultures press for self determination.

>>128274528
A couple of reasons but regardless of your political system, it's really hard to feed your people when you have a grain blight and it's hard to fund your national economy when oil prices went to the floor.

That's basically what happened. Soviet union was done in by grain and oil prices.

>>128274528
Turns out that Communisim and Socialism are Shit Ideologies for Shit People. Who knew?

>>128274528
Unstable and poorly run economic system would be the safe answer. Chances are it was a combination of factors.

>>128274528
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union_referendum,_1991
A reactionary coup basically. The vast majority of people voted to keep Soviet Union.

Communism kills organic competition and innovation. Competition and innovation create progress. No progress is stagnation. Stagnation means one must make due with what resources one already has.

>>128276433
>Have own ethicity
Check
>Own language
Check
>Own culture
Check
>Inhabited this land for ateast a millenium
Check

What about you? As far as I know, you are Serbs in denial who bent over for Achmed.

>>128276916
Utopian society that is at odds with the reality of the human spirit and ideals.

>>128277202
Im yugoslavian not bosnian lol

>>128274528

Capitalism collapsed too. Look at the west we have a fiat currency backed by nothing. Our standard of living Haas been eroding quickly. The middle class is gone. All we can do is print money and hope the world's demand for our bill continues to save us from hyperinflation. it would have been better if western capitalists had just admitted defeat. now in a desperate move the west is importing massive amount of migrants to prop up demand for printed currency. I'd rather this ponzi scheme collapsed already.

>>128274528
Collapsing oil prices in the 80s. Like all commie regimes they depended on exports to trade for food to feed their own people. Nobody was willing to prop their economy up, so they had to try reform. But that just ended in everyone agitating for independence and diaspora.

tl;dr - collective farms are bad, m'k? Don't do collective farms.

>>128276838
America is multicultural. For example, I call it pop but a hundred miles to the South they call it soda.

>its not freedom and its gay

>>128277601

There's plainly degrees of cultural difference. When the degree is too great, people find they would rather not live together anymore.

>>128274528
Reagan bankrupted them by forcing them to spend money on defense,
Afghanistan war etc. At the same time the social programs and stagnating economy ate what was left of the budget. In the end it just collapsed because it couldn't pay the wages of the goons to keep order.

>>128277337
If the corruption were to be taken out of capitalism it might work. In our current situation it is probably impossible to root out the corruption.

>>128274528

Ran out of other people's money and land to annex.

https://archive.org/details/TheGulagArchipelago-Threevolumes
https://archive.org/details/AleksandrSolzhenitsyn200YearsTogether

>>128277319
Yugoslavia doesn't exist anymore, and it is not an ethicity, but a nationality.

>>128274528
Controlling the means of production doesn't work when you redistribute wealth.

Capitalism is not a perfect system but it is better than all previous systems and needs to be further refined and optimized.

>>128277879
It exists, have you seen a map ever

File: Communism.png (333KB, 1258x778px) Image search: [Google]

333KB, 1258x778px

>>128274528
They weren't practicing true Communism.

In reality the current western system is oligarchy with some trappings of capitalism.

people couldn't buy salami and washing machines. i'm only half joking.

>>128277319
kys.

>>128278003
What year is it on your end, then? It's CURRENT YEAR here right now.
Hint: You will cease existing in 1991.

>>128278268
cool so is it like a nationalist thing or?...

>>128277337
And the funny part is these migrants are dumping the USD for other currencies to send money back home, which will cause more inflation because it means we have a trade deficit (this is why China makes it really difficult to impossible to convert to outside currencies from within the mainland China).

>>128278396
Wha do you mean with
>a nationalist thing
?
Yugoslavia was made up of Serbs, Slovenes and whole other kinds of Slav nationalities.
It was like the SU in a way, you of all people should know that, since you are an ex-Yugo yourself.

Because we subverted them with progressive ideology. Which is the exact same thing the world has been doing to us.

>>128277337
yeah, as communism slowly takes over the globe. We don't live in a capitalist nation anon. we've managed to turn our country into a socialist country with a porky mask.

File: xddddd.gif (1MB, 516x388px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 516x388px

>>128274528
Excess burden of price distortion. The joke was, if they ever conquered Asia they would leave Singapore free so their accounting system wouldn't collapse.

But western prices reflect western income and substitution effects (western income levels and relative scarcities). Lack of internal price-finding caught up with them.

File: Pyramidz.jpg (159KB, 1000x667px) Image search: [Google]

159KB, 1000x667px

>>128274528

It was by design. Communism is made to implode & cause mass death.

http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/subject/knowledge%20bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/

>>128279485
This.

>>128279680

> pic is a good way to die actually, you dont feel stuff like that.

>>128277772

ooh I wonder who got the five...
>>128277777

They ran out of resources trying to compete with one of the biggest capitalist countries in military and modernization. They were better poker players, but their opponents had an infinite supply of chips.