Why isn't their a viable ideology that combines the nationalist

>>128272309
how is that even possible

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Implying there isn't

>>128272309
Hoppean Libertarianism?

>>128272309
Memes are best forced over on >>>/b/ You best head there.
Thanks

>>128272309
Nationalism and Anti-Statism are oxymorons.

>>128272492
How isn't it? Not all libertarians are for the kike idea of completely open borders.

I think a lot of libertarians are offbase when they see the idea of the Nation the same way they see the State. The State and the Nation are two different things. So I'd disagree what libertarianism is incompatible with nationalism.

Americas founding fathers were pretty close to this ideology.

>>128272309
>Anti-State

Counter-State

>>128272309
>Nationalist
>Anti-State
These two concepts cannot coexist with each in any practical manner.

when you let civiliced men work thigns out under natural laws, you get exactly that

private ruling, nap, voluntary win/win co-op, scums out or ded, prosperity, safety, opportunities, traditionalism, bussiness and technological progress, lovely and respectful community

>>128272695
No. Pride in your home and people is not the same as a governing body of doom that lords over our every move.

>>128272309
>>128272741
It's called Paleo-libertarianism.

>>128272309

> Burger
> Doesn't know his own history

Rear Justin Raimondo's "Reclaiming the American Right". There's more to the American right than neoconservatism.

>>128272309
watch

and be amazed!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DcA1TtaP_c

>>128273147
Don't you start with this shit again pal!
See: >>128272680

>>128272695
implying nationalism is only a statist thing in the first place

idiosyncrasy of the people of some place is unrelated to the state and could be understanded as nationalism

I don't believe in god and I still consider myself a christian nowadays

>>128273223
This is a hoot, lol

>>128272309
something something collectivism "common good" read Hayek

>>128272309
It's called American nationalism you shit. It's in American culture to want to be individualistic but there's also this feeling of superiority. The nazis failed, American nationalism won. Your thinking of the trap party which is a republican-libertarian hybrid

Also this is just nomenclature. Declaring yourself a neo-strasserist or coasian libertarian is just as bad as being a toadgender or spacequeer

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>>128272309
>anarchism
Into the trash it goes. “All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.”

>>128273638
american culture is garbage

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>>128272309
National (((Socialism))) is collectivist garbage. Combining nationalism with small government is what conservatism is supposed to be. Nationalist on defense and justice, libertarian on healthcare etc. The reason /pol/ is made up of both natsoc and ancap is because both result in successful white societies.

>>128273543
coincidence of interests do happen in real life
common good is a hoax to hook up low iqs like you, retard

(((libertarianism)))

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>>128272309
It's called minimal-corporatism/feodalism you uneducated moron

>>128273920
>common good is a hoax
yeah that's why collectivism is garbage libertarians aren't pushing that hoax afaik

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>>128272309
>capitalism
>nationalism

>>128273638
> The Nazis failed, American nationalism won
You mean Soviet patriotism won?
Btw America doesn't even really have nationalism since there's no unifying force or core people who could homogeneously be considered a nation, if you consider yourself an American you can be patriotic, but not nationalistic.
>>128273883
There's nothing inherently wrong with collectivism. Hell, it's helping the Japanese and Chinese resist the SJW garbage and other cultural cancer.

>>128274045
NatSoc lolbertarianism can't exist. It's an oxymoron.

>>128272309
Because national socialism is authoritarian .

>>128274310
ok fine you're right

>>128274310
nat ancap

it's without the soc, isn't it implied?

private organizations are up to private trial and errors, nothing more nothing less

>>128273223
At the start, there is an Ad for the Northern Territory visible. Is this vid an aussie production?

Because national socialism and libertarianism are inherently incompatible with each other. National socialism requires a huge, overbearing state to indoctrinate and keep check on the general populace so they follow your preferred ideology. (i.e. secret police, laws out the ass and the national owning of ALL media outlets)

These are things that are OPPOSITE to what libertarianism is. The only reason why Nazi Germany came to be was because people were forced to live that way by the oppressive hand of the government.

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>>128274280
The ends justifies the means doesn't it comrade

>>128274732
Yes, pretty much universally. That's what being a utilitarian/consequentialist is all about.

>>128274638
At it's core NatSoc is fascism which values the state above everything else.

>>128272309
To people who can't seem to understand, nationalism implies that you value your nation, its culture, ideas, etc. above other interest groups. As such, the nation needs to be above other entities like unions, businesses, etc. The nation is going to be physically manifested in the form of a corporation called a state/government with a bureaucracy and different functions. And since the nation is considered above or more important than other similar corporations or entities it's inherently authoritarian. It has to put business and corporate interests beneath itself and will have to pursue some policies which are in the interest of the nation and not individuals. This is perhaps the biggest reason nationalism is contradictory to libertarianism.

>>128272309
>>128272741
>>128272695
>>128272492
The state is the citizen's collective. That is, the pooled resources of private citizens. A libertarian should defend the citizen's collective with the same zeal as his own private property.

Open borders =! libertarianism as private property is essentially the exact opposite of open borders at a sovereign citizen level.

>>128272309
>why haven't anyone combined communism with the economic aspects of capitalism?

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>>128272309
Fascism/NatSoc are the strong man
AnCap/Libertarianism is the good times
Commies/Liberals are the weak man
Communism/Economical Crisis/Cultural Suicide is the bad times

The Romans had this figured out long ago

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Whenever people say "Ur a libertarian, why do you support the police"

>>128273147
This.

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>>128274821
That excuse has been used throughout history to commit all kinds of savageries. People that believe the ends justifies the means are fundamentally immoral people.

>be doctor
>5 patients all need different organ transplant to live
>go find unsuspecting person and murder them
>harvest their organs and transplant them
>sacrificed 1 but saved 5
>ends justify the means :^)

>>128272309
Why can't you spell a simple word? It's there, not their.

>>128275124
Can a citizen opt out of the collective without being thrown in jail or shot?

>>128272309
>Anarcho-Totalitarianism
You AnCapshits seem hell bent to outstupid even the National Bolsheviks, aka the OxyMORONS. Keep it up.

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>>128272680
Eat shit globalist.

>>128272695
American Nationalism is Libertarianism.

>>128275889
American Nationalism doesn't exist. Patriotism =/= Nationalism. America isn't a nation.

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>>128272309
((((OP)))))

>>128272309
>nationalism
>personal choice
pick one
You can't have nationalism if everybody does whatever it wants, then you get degeneracy, which you now have. Enjoy your civic nationalism of cheating, interracial and pedophilia, because muh personal choice aka my body i do whatever i want, my money i do whatever i want, which normally translates into some sort of sexual degeneracy.

>>128273854
Libertarianism is not anarchism

>>128272309
That Swastika is facing the wrong way.

>>128276014
fag

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>>128275973
Fuck off "melting pot" hippy.

American traditionalism is centered on liberty, there is no denying it.

>>128275583
doing that would sort of violate the NAP

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>>128276014
Yes, because clearly socialism has worked out every other time it was tried?

>>128276208
Nice arguments bitchboy

>>128276301
... Yes?

>>128276301
Planned economy was the main problem

>>128276237
Do you know what a nation is or is defined as?
> a large aggregate of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory.
Due to its very nature and history there's pretty much nothing that ties all Americans together. Ireland is a nation, Britain/England is a nation, Denmark is a nation. America is not, it's a country, not a nation.

>>128276301
Family is also a form of Socialism, you agree to certain rules, to stay with your partner and take care of your children.

>>128276014
why would you take anything from the left

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>>128276415
Uh huh, sure.

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>>128272584
pic related is a world I'd live in.
Nat Soc fits Europe well because of the rich culture and history while Libertarian fits America more because it was founded upon principles of freedom.
One thing I disagree are the Africa colonies, we should just let them be. Nat Soc is about preserving and improving yourself and encouraging other races to do the same, not dominate them.

>>128272309
You guys really are a bunch of total retards. Laughing my arse off reading this fucking thread.

>>128276551
We're talking about economics not culture you dumb cunt.

>>128276526
America is all of that. Sure there's some niggers but they aren't the standard.

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>>128276551
So socialism only works in extremely small groups.

I am stretching the definition of "works" here, we do have a 50% divorce rate after all.

>>128276645
Dude, wtf why would you punish Madagascar like that? What did they ever do to you?

>>128276645
>Nat Soc is about preserving and improving yourself and encouraging other races to do the same, not dominate them
It's about having pride in your race and the european race is above the negroids in Africa. They can't even create a society.

>>128276607
Fuck off Sharia blue

>>128276811
Family is as much economics as culture, as well as nationalism. If you want to go full capitalism with family then that would be gold-digging whores. If you want to go full Anarcho-Capitalism with family that would be cuck relationship where she digs for money and other cock, at this point she isn't even loyal any longer for money like gold-digging whore, she can do whatever she wants, so she accepts money from different partners and also whoring around for free.

>>128277053
But why not just leave them be tho?

>>128272309
Oh look! We're advocating for Buddhist-Anarcho-Capitalism, apparently.
Sage these retarded threads. OP is a moron.

>>128273866
The kind you see on TV, yes. But small town white America is beautiful.

>>128272309
Because it would be oxymoronic (that is to say, contradictory).

>>128272309
>guise i wanna be edgy like you, but i don't wanna feel like a traitor when i do it
The socialist ideals of uncle hitler don't mesh well with the ideals of the founding fathers.

>>128277184
Because one day the might fucking come over like they are doing now.

>>128276551
>>128276944

Socialism works very well when there is abundance.

Everywhere I have worked has had shared assets; when only a few people are working everyone will share no problem, but when a lot of people are working it become brutally competitive and people will cut corners or even hide things to ensure they get first access.

>>128276944
Socialism taught morality and physical exercise in school, without which you couldn't finish school. Capitalism teaches sexual education and how everybody is ok no matter the mental/physical illness, this teaches that everything can be sold to anybody.

>>128277143
So your just saying capitalism causes women to go slutty. People mostly date within their own classes and degeneracy in the western world came from cultural marxist jews not capitalist.

>>128272309

Anarcho-Facism is a thing last time I checked my memeballs. It's where it's a fascist society but everyone in it has agreed to live by that system and it's glorious leader and isn't being forced to and anyone who doesn't like it can fuck off to another community.

>>128275583

Actually you should do that just with prisoners who deserve it.

>>128272309
its called hoppean libertarianism.

absolutely dekiked and higher social and moral standards are only tolerated.

>>128276645
> I disagree are the Africa colonies, we should just let them be

the thing is, without international help / trades or exploitation, africa would probably be even worse than now, lots of countries there absolutly needs europe to survive

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>>128277361
>Socialism works very well when there is abundance
And yet socialism is absolutely shit at producing that abundance.

And we're talking about real socialism here. The system as a whole. A workplace having shared assets isn't "socialism", it's just a capitalist company deciding to have shared assets.

>>128277504
Provide example of a socialist nation that has worked.

>>128277547
Socialism had no gays or prostitutes, while capitalism has plenty of it. What do you think prostitution is if not the most common capitalism there is, no moral obligation, no state obligation, no rules, just money for fuck, anybody goes. Prostitution is as pure ancap as it exists.

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>>128277504
>Socialism taught morality and physical exercise in school, without which you couldn't finish school.
So now you're just stretching the definition of socialism to mean "everything that I like".

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>>128272309
Falun gong
Principles are to be true, good and endure.
Believes races shouldn't mix and a virtuous nation is a strong nation.
Also says communism is evil.
http://en.falundafa.org/

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>>128272309
There is: Nice Guy National Socialism

>>128277837
Healthy body in healthy mind is what Nazis & Partisans learned in school. This is not only for well-being of country, but also to lower the costs of public healthcare.

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>>128272309
There are only 2 choices: NatSoc/Fascism or Zionism

Libcucks are controlled opposition ruled by Jews. Just another naive and facile ideology filled with cucks and good goys.

>>128272309
>Anti State Nationalism

Why not Libertarian Communism or Liberal Fascism?

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>>128278111
>Healthy body in healthy mind is what Nazis & Partisans learned in school
Nazis weren't socialist you retard.

>>128277811
>i-it's okay if the germans do it, because they were based
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_military_brothels_in_World_War_II

>>128277811
You're talking about socialism as a social theory, it's not, United Arab Emirates has one of the most free markets in the world and bans homosexuality, prostitution and is technically a religious state.

>>128277345
What do you mean? Why should we ever fear them If they were left on their containment continent that does not naturally select them based on intelect? Take all niggers back to Africa and forget about them and eventually they would return to their tribes and mudhuts. All the 1% of high IQ blacks efforts would be for nothing... Or they would build dictatorships manipulating their retarded brothers. Still wouldn't be a threat for the other ethnostates

Libertarianism is for autistics.

Fascism and Monarchism are for people who aren't socially disheveled freaks.

>>128278238
That has to be one of dumbest things you can write. The whole reason why Hitler & Mussolini wanted to control all industry and ban foreign influences is mainly because they were bullied by foreigners for long and had to suffer inflation/financial crisis/food blockade from USA.

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>>128278238
>Nazis weren't socialist you retard.
Fuck off

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>>128272309
There is, its called constitutional monarchy in which the power of the state is very small and ruled over by elites who have been trained by birth for that position.

>>128277685
So? Atleast we're not bigots

>>128278456
>constitutional monarchy
There is a big difference between constitutional monarchies. Sweden and Japan have figurehead kings.

>>128272309
Anarcho-capitalism
Free market capitalism

inb4, they aren't technically nations they are sovereign corperations.

>>128278364
No, i am talking literally you couldn't finish school without being physically fit and we literally had moral classes well into independent country, but they slowly started to remove it. Go read laws and you will see the same thing for Nazi Germany.

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>>128278238
>nazis weren't socialist

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>>128278432
No one but fascist uses the Nazi definition of socialism

>>128278424
If the Nazis were socialist then they wouldn't have had private property and private businesses everywhere in the nation.

>>128278238
Yes they were, Hitler originally was anti-capitalist but during his campaign for chancellor he abandon that rhetoric and went anti-marxist as for business men to vote for him to beat the communist party.

>>128278579
Yes? So?
There are also big differences in what a democracy can become too. Irrelevant.

>>128278591
>anarcho-anything

much like communists, it only works if 100% of the planet is doing it.

So go larp elsewhere.

>>128274215
It seems you don´t even have a clue what communism or capitalism means.
>Communism
>Give up your culture
>Give up your people
Literally every communist state that has been existed in history was extremely nationalist.

>Capitalism
>Heritages makes no profit, history pays no dividends
Do you can even guess how much money is made with culture and history
>Oktoberfest
>Halloween
>Movies with historical backgrounds
>Xmas
All this gives big profits too many companies

>>128272309
It's called the NAP principle. You fine people for polluting and using God-given resources and spend that money the way the King sees fit.

>>128278680
Do you even know what Marxism means? Because Marxism isn't an ideology, it's a study of economic climate.

>>128278771

All commercial shit.

>>128277504
the public schools this shit is taught in is a tax funded socialist idea

>>128278673
>No one but fascist uses the Nazi definition of socialism
You are literally retarded. Please read some basic books on politics.

>>128278875
It's a ideology looking to overthrow capitalism and replace it with communism, it can be classified as an economic climate too.

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>>128279069
If you have private businesses and private property, then you can't very well be a socialist nation.

>>128278673
>Hitler didn't nazionalize aka state control
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Evangelical_Church
>The German Evangelical Church (German: Deutsche Evangelische Kirche), also known in English as the Protestant Reich Church and colloquially as the Reich Church (German: Reichskirche), was a unified state church

Hitler political party plan:
http://www.verfassungen.de/de/de33-45/partei20.htm
>Wir fordern die Verstaatlichung aller (bisher) bereits vergesellschafteten (Trusts) Betriebe.
Translation:
>We call for the nationalization of all (trusts) companies in existence.

http://www.verfassungen.de/de/de33-45/partei33.htm
>Nach dem Sieg der nationalsozialistischen Revolution ist die Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei die Trägerin des deutschen Staatsgedankens und mit dem Staat unlöslich verbunden.
Translation:
>After the victory of the National Socialist Revolution, the National Socialist German Workers' Party is the bearer of the German national idea and is inseparably connected with the state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Italy_under_fascism
>the fascist trade unions were nationalized by Mussolini’s administration, and placed under state ownership, conforming to Vladimir Lenin’s earlier policies to eliminate independent labor unions in the Soviet Union.[19][20] Under this labor policy, Fascist Italy enacted laws to make union membership compulsory for all workers.
>As Italy continued to nationalize its economy, the IRI “became the owner not only of the three most important Italian banks, which were clearly too big to fail, but also of the lion’s share of the Italian industries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism_and_ideology
“Some still ask of us: what do you want? We answer with three words that summon up our entire program. Here they are…Italy, Republic, Socialization. . . Socialization is no other than the implantation of Italian Socialism…

Privatization would defeat the purpose of Socialism.

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>>128279261
So then why did Hitler allow for private property and private business?

>>128278432
this. The king needs absolute power to protect liberty for his people. That's it. I would make rules of rht eking like no sugars etc... very spartan life for government officials no riches allowed to keep them selfless. probably even chop their balls off

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>>128278771
>>Oktoberfest
>>Halloween
>>Movies with historical backgrounds
>>Xmas
Are you a liberal shithead that you refuse to say Christmas? All of the things you listed are very superficial part of the culture which have been heavily commercialised and stripped of their real cultural and religious background.
>All this gives big profits too many companies
Again thinking only about profits.

>>128272309
National Capitalism when?

All that makes nat-soc viable is against libertarianism (which itself is a joke)

>>128275214
This. Fascism is a weapon or tool to create the conditions necessary for freedom aka organized commie killing and degenerate gassing

>>128279386
He only allowed them to remain private until he needed them for his little wars. Then he nationalized them.

>>128278432
Their economic politics were centrist.
AnCaps would call this Communism
Commies would call this bourgeois

>>128279386
Private property isn't personal property. State property isn't public property in capitalism, it's public property in Socialism. Public ownership is when workers vote for bosses in company because workers own any company of employment. Private property is where private owner owns a boss or can be boss itself who then obviously doesn't needs voting from workers. It's also obvious your taxes are run by government, not by people, since you don't decide money spending of collected taxes, but in Socialism we do, we approve when mayor spends money and how, we also decide how taxes are collected, government in Socialism is just an institution that works for people. In capitalism government is private company and you vote for politicians who run that company, you don't have any decisions in how they run it or when they use your taxes, so the word "public" isn't correct here, since public doesn't decides government actions/money, you can't be owner if you don't decide anything. If you are an owner of company you obviously decide.

>>128275825
he can defend him self from such acts

Several tards ITT

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_and_Soil

The blood and oil is what makes the Nation, not some representative bureaucracy that acts in our """interests"""

It is inherent in a state to make power grabs, and these power grabs do nothing but exercise control over liberty.

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>>128279682
So was the USA socialist during WW2 too since we nationalized our industries?

>>128278771
>Literally every communist state that has been existed in history was extremely nationalist.
because they weren't really communist states, they were state socialist and the communist stateless utopia they wanted to achieve was impossible
>Oktoberfest
>Halloween
>Movies with historical backgrounds
>Xmas
>All this gives big profits too many companies
they are now consumerist and comercialist bastardization of what it originally was

>>128279739
>Their economic politics were centrist.
True but what I am concerned more for is their social policies which are very right-wing.

>>128272309
They are antithetic my dude. Under Nazis, any anarchism would be condemned as Jewish subversion and violently expunged. The very benefit of liberty is doubted and scrutinized in any true nationalist dogma. The base ingredient of a nation is allegiance, which is the opposite of the anarchist dream. If you can't follow, if you reject subordination, nationalism does not want you.

>>128279906
Why are you only thinking in extremes? It's normal to nationalise industry during war.

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>>128279867
So, by your own definition, Hitler's Germany wasn't socialist.

>>128280162
There are great many books on Germany's economic policies. They were centrist.

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>>128280138
Yes, but these people are claiming that nationalist capitalism with some regulations, aka what fascist Germany was, is in the same category of "socialism" along with Stalinist USSR.

>>128280162
Or maybe you're just being an ass and the term "socialism" is a lot broader than simple minds find comfortable.

>>128272309
Op law is needed. It is the role of men to establish laws and taboos. Libertarianism is a feminine ideology. Anything goes is feminine. You can still be gay when sodomy laws are established, just keep it inside the home. and to yourself. You can still smoke weed, but do it inside. There will be decency laws, lewdness and immodesty will not be tolerated, but inside your own home be lewd all you want. Libertarianism is just another jewish ideology to keep whites from collectivizing.

>>128279906
They were actually compensated in America.
In Germany it was "thanks for that factory, the reich thanks you and you won't be shot" was all they got.

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>>128280367
So then what's the fucking point of using the word "socialism" if almost every nation falls under the definition?

>>128280162
You seem to misunderstand then. You are also confusing war with Socialism.

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>>128272309
>Why isn't their a viable ideology that combines the nationalist aspects of Nazism with the Anti-State ideas of classical liberalism?

there is. it's called "anarcho-capitalism", and it lets you set your own rules on your own private property. granted, it wouldn't happen on as big of a "national" scale as you'd like, but if you can round up some other ancaps to all agree on it then you could have your own little nazi paradise in the middle of an ancap paradise.

>tfw i bullshit my way through this as hard as possible

>>128279867
>People decide the taxes in socialism

What if one day people don't want to pay taxes, and see taxed funded services deteriorate and open up private services like schools and hospitals? If you can't go private you literally have to pay for high taxes no matter what.

>>128280304
Nazis made it very clear that social justice was a priority concern to them. Following the Enabling Act, they ejected all reactionary and conservative powers from the government alongside social democrats and communists. There were even economic conservatives who got camp'd for advocating against total Nazi control of the economy.

>>128280575
People decided they wanted to pay taxes, so repairs and work can be done, it's only that they sit at table instead of bosses and they get the data instead of boss and then they see how much money they need to put on the side for taxes.

>>128272309
Anarcho-traditionalism?

>>128280507
There's very little sense in using the word to describe modern welfare states as they exist in today's Europe. However, some of the more derogatory meanings of the term describe Nazis pretty well.

>>128272309

why nationalism and not simply ethnocentrism? why is the nation state important to you?

>>128272309
This is what happens when burgers try to into politics.
Honestly ban them all.

>>128280862
>There's very little sense in using the word to describe modern welfare states as they exist in today's Europe
Well they did give welfare to better the volk for example to mother with children.

>>128280903
>why is the nation state important to you
Because a non-centralised state or God forbid anarchy can't enforce ethnocentrism.

>>128280903

Is your home not important to you? Do you keep your doors shut and locked? Its the same concept. The nation is the home.

>>128272309

Sounds like Trumpism to me.

Yes nationalism and anti-state are mutually incompatible

Yes this makes trump fags retarded hypocrites.

>>128280779
The issue with this is that people need to be economically literate, business men aren't people who don't know shit, they have experience.

>>128281088
I know. I have no idea why Nazi inclinations with classical socialism are even debated here. The entire top brass of the Nazi party - including Hitler and Goebbels - identified as socialists, anti-capitalists.

>>128281313
Socialism had a very short public education, rest you learned at work and only what you needed to know. All these colleges and Phds of capitalism, that can be good, but not necessary what you need to learn to be using at work. Socialism send workers on education and gave them exactly the papers they needed to learn, so you cut 99% of bullshit. Everything in capitalism is made in such a way, including the laws, that you need extra time and lawyers to solve it, since time is money and lawyers sure love to make money. In Socialism lawyers had no decision making power, only in rare cases they were important, they were more like secretaries.

>>128281510
>I have no idea why Nazi inclinations with classical socialism are even debated here
The eternal american and israeli shills.

>>128281680
What makes them so uniquely ignorant?

>>128281680
This socialism can be much more than a simple welfare state or communism,national socialists were against both capitalism and communism.At the same time they took the best each economic system had to offer and knitted it togheter with nationalism.
Its one of the most efficient systems and its so demonized because it kills the international banking system,now we cant have that can we goys?

>>128281790
The lack of education....maybe or improper education.

>>128281790
General culture and mass media brainwash.

>>128272309
>nazism calls for totalitarian state and is explicitly anti-liberal

Hmm gee I wonder why

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>>128282629
>>nazism calls for totalitarian state and is explicitly anti-liberal
Thank God for that.

>>128277184
Europeans have conquered this World and we should only stop until that happens again

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We're already exist OP. Paleolibertarianism cuts the fag parts out of liberalism and embraces Nations.

>>128272309
>This would be my preferred ideology
>I need an ideology to live.

You should abolish all ideas that ideologies are a solution to anything, stop living as a puppet and become a man.

>>128274828
statism is the the justified means to the delusional goals of any delusional idiot

it's a tool, the way to get there; systematic opresion, theft, coercion, threat and abuse

>>128277685
If they can't survive on their own then they are a burden.

Only when they repent and start asking for help we should lift a finger and even then the help should be minimal at most.

>>128283638
This is just our version of tumblr and their genders

>>128272309
Neoreaction

>>128283665
>He says as Abdul sets up a new no go zone perimeter

Bizarre. Muslims have a shared ideology and they seem to be taking every country in the West that embraces pure nihilism. How do you think that happens?

>>128284362
I can give you a full explanation if you want. But I will keep it short since I hate reading WoT and I personally think Laconic writing should be the standard for Internet.

The west has killed god through their pursuit of truth, instead of resurrecting his ideals you are left with two states. One is to double down hard on religion or two embrace Nihilism.

Since west does not have a "religion" ideology tried to take root by acting as the only solution.

Muslims "youth" who comes here are not aware of how effective the west is on killing gods leaves them in the same state as previously mentioned. Either they embrace Nihilism or double down on Islam, and obviously the double down harder on Islam due to them being preyed on by these shitty ideologies.

Solution for the west is to resurrect the core values of Christianity which is not socialism. And when you get that ground steady you can take on the shitty ideology that is Islam. Personally I want them all out.

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>>128284113
What does that even mean?

>>128272309
Free Market National Socialism it is called

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>>128272309
Nazism= strong state
Libertarian= weak or no state
this is fucking impossible

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>>128272309
National (((Socialism))) is just Marxism with white people. They think it's desirable to have free healthcare and free college once it's an all aryan society.

>>128272309
You can do ethnocentrism voluntarily without forcing people to go along with the program. Libertarianism isn't an answer to how things will be done, its just a recognition that things should be done without stealing from or killing people. So the closest you would get to gassing people is exiling them knowing they will die in the wild without your welfare.

People talk about their values as if they should be enforced with a gun. Communists and fascists and classic liberals and everyone else can all live among one another in relative peace as long as they actually compete on the field of ideas and practicality and don't practice violence on eacthother. This way stronger ideas prosper while things like globalism die out due to lack of massive taxpayer funding.

>>128274215
capitalism dosn't force you to anything retard
if people abandon their culture its because they never felt strongly towards it
communism is cancer however and forcefully replaces culture and religion with state worship