/pg/ - Pagan General

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i have a question. do pagans worship trees or not??

>>128270152
>>128270044
Enough of this Tomfuckery.
Christians and Pagans will stand together against the tide in RaHoWa.

>>128270373
I should have written this isnt supposed to be an Anti-Christian thread. Christianity adopted a lot of European traditions into itself over time. I just want to spread awareness of our ancestral roots.

>>128270152
We dont worship trees, we worship the gods. Some places may be sacred to the gods and we show these places respect, or "pray" to them.
The gods are not our lords they're more like friends. We show them respect, even offer them gifts as friends sometimes do, and in return they give us the gift of life and everything it offers.

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And a friendly reminder that "Pagans are uncivilized tree fuckers" is a meme.
Paganism/Heathenism functions just as well today as it did in the past.

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Oi Ukko Ylijumala,
Pilvi hattaroin pitäjä,
Tules tänne tarvitessa,
Käy tänne kututtaissa!
Pah' on olla pakkuloissa,
Kiero olla kipuloissa.
Puun löyly, kivosen lämmin,
Mäne läpi kuumista kivistä,
Palavista poateroista,
Läpi saunan sammalista,
Läpi kylyn kynnyksistä,
Emon tuoman ruumihista!.

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>>128270044
I have to admit Nat soc is must more interesting without that Kike on a stick.

But honestly you guys are trying to hard, calm down.

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>>128271460
Not try-harding at anything anon, just encouraging people to lead a good life.

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>>128270044
The Nine Noble Virtues of Asatru - How to follow them today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTZOKprbvQ8

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>>128271738
I like what your selling. I really do. Maybe it's the format, comes off as a little desperate. Some more humor perhaps?

I'll stop shitting up your thread now. Good luck brother.

Are you ready for Christians to come in and ruin the thread's level of discourse? Because that's inevitably what happens whenever there's a thread about a non-Christian religion, regardless of how civil and non-inflammatory it is. It seems there are some Christians on 4chan who absolutely must let you know how much they despise every other religion, whether you want to hear it or not. Case in point >>128270152

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>>128270044
Varg's extensive documentation of Paganism/European Polytheism:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLV1Xd_c5-wta8HSKFx15qdV5L-pm5XvZA

Paganism, Part I; Seiðr, Galdr & Ásatrú:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoeBRyz2760

About Germanic Law:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LLJQb3RAlo

>>128272083
Probably just my wording.
Could also be that we've had it drummed into our heads our whole lives that paganism is synonymous with LARPing in the woods.

>>128272250
Its fine if they do, dont give it a reaction and eventually they'll fuck off.
Haven't expressed any hatred for Christians in this thread.

1. What is the Pagan stance towards Islam?

2. Do you agree with Varg on the point that blue eyes and blonde hair have an advantage in cold climates and that brown haired, brown eyed people have some Sub saharan admixture?

3. Do you truly think that Christianity has not contributed ANYTHING positive to the white race?

Honest questions, no malicious intent. Tip: read Pierre Krebs' Fighting for the Essence. A pagan would love it.

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>>128272755
>1. What is the Pagan stance towards Islam?
It should stay out of Europe by any means necessary.

>2. Do you agree with Varg on the point that blue eyes and blonde hair have an advantage in cold climates and that brown haired, brown eyed people have some Sub saharan admixture?
They dont have an advantage, blue eyes actually have a harder time seeing in colder climates during the day, however they see better at night.
Cant tell you about brown eyes because I honestly dont know enough.

>3. Do you truly think that Christianity has not contributed ANYTHING positive to the white race?
I never said that. Christianity (post Roman) adopted lots of old European traditions and generally taught people how to live good lives. I agree with most of Jordan Peterson's points about Christianity.
But I think Europe would be much better off had it not adopted Christianity.

>>128272755

1. Proper traditional European religious structure would take no stance on Islam, because Islam has nothing to do with our religious activity and traditional religion isn't a basis for an ideological identity by itself like Islam or Christianity, it's merely one element of many that form an identity. From an intellectual standpoint, though, I personally am opposed to Islam.

2. That has nothing to do with religion.

3. I don't think it has, or at least nothing unique to it that wasn't also found amongst the traditional religions. Certainly people who happen to be Christian have, but not Christianity itself. Here's a better question, if you believe it has, then what are some of the positive things you think it's contributed?

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Been thinking about actually starting out with stonemasonry as a hobby.

Would be cool to have one of these in my backyard.

>>128273191
Tell me more of the Gods? Which pantheon do you personally follow? Are your Gods physical or metaphysical (as in, are they the laws of nature, or do they go beyond them)? Is there anything that ancient pagans did that you disagree with?

>>128270044
This is pointless, most westerners don't even know what Paganism is. Just look at all the Christcucks sperging out about one certain norse god and think that it represents everyone else..

>>128273378
I personally follow Asatru, so;
Odin, Frigga, Thor, Tyr, Loki, Baldr, ect.
I attribute the gods to the forces of nature, the land, emotion, ect. rather than actual physical beings. They dont look like they are represented, thats just a way of communicating what they represent.

As for anything ancient pagans did that I disagree with, not wiping out the Jews when they had the chance. :^)

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>>128273378
The gods represent ideals and human qualities.

Like Odin represents wisdom and power.

Thor represents strength.

Freya represents virtue and fertility.

Loki represents deceit and cleverness.

Etc.

They are in the modern age åsatru very close to how you would worship certain paragons of humanity for their special human qualities.

>>128273761
Pretty much this

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Let me know when you edgy fedora cucks are able to sustain a culture, and an environment to raise children, Pagoys.

>when pagan threads became Nordic threads
It's been a fun ride brehs

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>>128273952
Rome says hello

>>128274046
???

>>128270373
This

>>128273358
faggot kitschy pseudo-athentic runestone. kys

>>128273748
>>128273761
I see. So basically your wish is for whites/ Europeans to return to their prechristian religion. Have any of you ever looked into Abkhaz/Circassian neopaganism? According to Wikipedia, 8% of Abkhazians are neopagan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abkhaz_neopaganism

(Abkhazians as a people are generally white as fuck, but there is a small percentage of them that have truly mostly SubSaharan origins. No one knows where they come from.)

>>128274170
>b...but 2000 years agoo......

up on the cross you go.

>>128274170
All debated end up being about asatru, Nordic gods and history.
There's no point in participating.

Next time I propose an IE point of view on the topic because it includes more white people

>>128273952
Let me know when you redneck Protestants grow a brain.

>>128274170
Norse pantheons are but a tiny fraction of Paganism. Plus they have become a joke due to the entertainment industry.
Everyone now knows them as Jewish comic book characters, not as remains of the old European (and others) cultures.

>>128274437
How about fucking off to your shit hole Xhaka Mohammed?

>>128274405
>>128274487

Asatru isnt Nordic its pan-European. Pantheon is irrelevant, its all branches of the same tree.
I speak about Asatru because its one of the best reconstructionist movements out there and its the one I personally follow. If you want to talk about other 'denominations' go ahead.

>>128274487
>Plus they have become a joke due to the entertainment industry.
This. I feel like Germanic paganism has been severely shat upon and memed by jewish directors. Now shitskins around the world appropriate their pagan heritage

>>128274405
Well, considering my origin (read namefagging), if I were to leave Christianity and convert to Paganism, I would definitely pick Helleno-Roman. However, you need to understand that the majority of the population of /pol/ has Germanic/Anglo-Saxon/Scandinavian origin, thus they prefer the Scandinavian pantheon. Greek neopagans are a bunch of hippies. I know that Slavic Pagans are largely white nationalists, but fuck knows where they are.

>>128274635
It's essentially Germanic, I wont appropriate your gods or stories. I have great respect for it tho.
I'm gonna wait for a more inclusive thread

>>128274613
lol.

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>>128274405
The greeks worship Zeus. They are welcome to post about it here.

>>128274822
Or you could start talking about Slavic paganism. I mean, it is not like anyone is stopping you.

>>128274842
I saw a minidocumentary in Vice once about Greek paganism. They looked like hippies, desu.

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Have you norse Larpers/Pagans ever created some of this ?

>>128274937
The thread itself does not attract others than Norse pagans.

Let's broaden the theme in the first place, maybe a pajeet will enlighten us with the stories of his poo gods, who knows..

>>128274822
It is Germanic but like I said it was once practiced all across Europe. Pantheon is irrelevant anon, in Rome its Jupiter, in Greece its Zeus, in Germania its Odin, ect. Its the same religion. If you want to talk about Slavic religion go ahead I'd be interested to learn.

>>128275053
Scandinavia in the Viking Age was reknown for it's very advanced ships and top quality steel. Even during the Renaissance, when the Italians were making marvelous art, Scandinavians were not very good at sculpture-making to my knowledge.

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>>128275053
>Christianity invented carving

A FUCKING LEAF

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>>128275053
>A fucking leaf

A FUCKING LEAF

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>>128275243
its*

>>128275116
I thought neopaganism in /pol/ was for Europeans. Who cares about pajeets.

>>128271938
Right off the bat he says they are not religious which is just bad. I understand amongst hipsters the word religion has bad connotations but come on. The word religion is from the latin word religare which means to bind together such as a fasces.

"the notion of binding together that lies at the etymological root of religion is also, revealingly, found in the symbolic cluster of bound sticks, the fasce, that gives us the latter term fascism."

>>128275579
Small correction, the word religion means actually to re-bind. If you've read Evola, he states that humans and gods lived among each-other during the Golden Age, and that religion was created during the Silver Age, as an attempt to rebind humans and gods.

>>128274648
Of course it has. Any means for white collectivization is mocked by jews including christianity.

>>128275144
I've got to read more about it in order to answer you. I guess all the basics are in the OP

> When you know Perkons has a bigger dick than Thor

>>128276156
Perkon's dick is no much for Perkele's

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>>128275902
And with that I gotta hit the sack, its late. If someone else more knowledgeable than me wants to make another /pg/ after this one go ahead.

>>128275817
Yeah I've heard the phrase "union with divinity" as a definition. That sounds in line with what you are saying. Thanks for the correction. I was quoting from the book "Methods of Science: Contribution on Scientific Illuminism:.

>>128276326
>no match*

>>128276156

>Perkons has a bigger dick than himself when Norsemen talk about him

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>>128276326
ahem - the sign of perkons

>>128276463
idd

>>128275281
>norse Larpers/Pagans

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>>128275053
>>128275243
Behind ancient statues and work of art is a king and his peasants. It was no regular peasants that came up with ''hey let's have someone dedicate their entire life into learning and scultping stone'', it was a king who had thousands of subjects and could force the rest of his lowly subjects to provide for the sculptor. In the Nordics, the social life was much more egalitarian and people lived in smaller villages. There was no high kings that was in power to use resources for sculptures. They are not really of much practical value in small-scale egalitarian society.

Agriculture was the birth of slavery and peasant-class, before that men were more equal with each other. Naturally in those fertile places where they could submit a chunk of the population to do non-productive work, they could produce wonders and art.

I know most of /pol/ is in the progressive ''civilization is highest achievement of humanity'' -trance that gets challenged by only the wisest, but I personally find absolutely no superiority in civilization vs. natural hunter-gatherer life.

>>128276474
That looks like it takes a good 30 minutes to draw.

>>128276619
>tfw will never have QTpie aino qf

>>128276568

>A FUCKING LEAF still going at it

At least we don't larp as maple syrup.

>>128276335
Schlaf schön anon. Gott sei mit dir.

>>128276568
A fucking leaf

>>128270044
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUHnYoGa888

>>128276619
I agree, it is far easier to be equal when you live in small villages and cities, but I sorta (key word here) disagree on your take on civilization.

The natural hunter gatherer life offers many things, so does civilization, however, I think we need to use the development of technology to out advantage and live as close as possible to the hunter gatherer life style as our wallet allows us. We need to combine the new with the old.

Now imagine if aliens invade, and we are living in a truly hunter gatherer society. It would be the automatic destruction of humanity.

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>>128276828
>You should not marry yourself too young or seek out for girls much younger than you t. Väinämöinen
Väinämöinen sure was progressive.

>>128270152
Depend. Paganism is a very broad term that applies to pretty much every non-Abrahamic religion. Celtic-polytheism has strong overlaps with animism so trees, rivers, etc are considered sacred.

>>128276918
guess you cant name one huh?

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>>128277201
Don't even have to imagine alien invasion. Imagine about human invasion. I'm rather positive about that as animals, we would be most content with life as hunter-gather tribal animals we naturally are. But the hobbits living in paradise-like Shire can not live in peace next to the wicked, tortured souls of orcs. It doesn't matter how bad the orcs have it, they would conquer Shire with their technological and quantitive superiority.

I have not read the book Archeofuturism, intending to, but that's what I'd imagine a realistic future would look like. A combination of the aspects of natural human life, with enough technology to keep ourselves our own masters. Something like the Elves.

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>>128270044
Best "sect" of paganism?

>>128271446
When will it be my turn for a pagan qt?

>>128278222
Take your pick
There is no "best"

>>128277957
>guess you cant name one huh?
Aunt Jemima

>>128278872
>>128278222
It's not a choice, it's given by ancestry. Where are you from?

I guess if you're a mutt you have to open yourself up to the gods and let them tell you themselves where you belong.

>>128279376
Mate the fact is we're all interbred at this point. Hellenic/Roman religion was practiced as far as Britain so even if you're a Celt it doesnt really matter if you dont choose to specifically follow druidism.
Find something that suits you and your lifestyle best in my opinion.

>>128278036
Exactly. Without our superior technology, chinks and arabs would destroy us. Hell, even subsaharans could, considering their. Sometimes, we need to sacrifice happiness for survival.

>enough technology
You are implying that technology develops in a linear way. It is not true. We need to develop technologies that promote environmentalism and allow us to live as close as our ancestors did as possible.

I've heard a lot of pagans say that the various pantheons are actually the same gods with different names, but what truth is there to this claim?

>>128279838
I know my ancestry and where I'm from. Different tribes have intermingled and united in sacred marriage, which is obviously fine. I'm not talking about a purely material concept, I'm talking about the spiritual ancestry. There's obvious overlap but they're definitely not the same. I know it's harder for you colonials but that makes it all the more important for you, in my opinion, to open up and ask, not just choose what superficially looks nice.

>>128270044

Wow, this is awesome OP. Never seen a /pg/ thread, normally post in /nsg/.

One question I have is how similar is Christianity to the pagan religions? I've heard the concept of a holy trinity is the same.

Is there anything known about Polish paganism?

>>128280327
It's actually really complicated. Almost all of the major pantheons throughout Europe, Persia, and Vedic period India can be traced to common Indo-European roots, but they've evolved over time in different cultural contexts that some of the characteristics have dropped, changed, or been associated with different gods, as well as new characteristics popping up and foreign deities being adopted into the pantheons. Local deities were also very important, but they usually saw a tremendous amount of variation and adaptation to a specific cultural and environmental contexts, as well as foreign importation. However, local deity cults still took on at least some common themes from the common Indo-European roots.

>>128281137
Prayer hasn't worked out for me yet. I ask the gods who I should worship, but I end up hearing what I want to hear.
As a colonial, I think we should follow the gods attributed to our family name. In a patriarchal society, I imagine that our ancestors would worship the gods of their fathers.

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>>128281377
Well Odin can be seen as a representation of a "trinity", here's a video to sum it all up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C9yvEOT45I

>>128281682
In regards to opening up to the gods I'd like to recommend Collin Cleary's "Summoning the gods" which has been very useful to me.

>>128272399
>Varg
>thinks autism is a gift
>muh blue eyes and blonde hair
>stabbed people and burned churches
>hates christianity but backs down like a cuck when it comes to islam and judaism

>>128281377
There's actually another Pagan General that comes up, but it doesn't call itself /pg/
You can find it in the archive with a ton of resources. I'm sure you'll find something on Polish paganism.
Here's a useful mega incase you can't find it.
https://mega.nz/#F!fIchVA7Y!owKwAgGKq9pgXrbVOnkeag!7dEXGAAI

As for Christianity, the trinity isn't like European paganism. Any attempt to describe the nature of the trinity is always incompatible with the bible and labeled a heresy so it's just a mystery. Paganism is more concrete.

>>128282022
I prefer The Golden One in general.

Europe did better under the Church than it did under paganism.

For instance, the Church stopped pagans from marrying their own cousins. :)

>>128282300
Yeah Varg has issues, not a good introduction.

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>>128280221
I did not intend to imply that, even if my bad wording maybe made it seem like that. Technology shouldn't be restricted, but we can control in what way our lives are centered around technology and natural life. Worshipping technology is a symptom of modernity, and I've problem with it. Scientific progress can not be the meaning and end game of humanity, but to serve humanity.

The formation of tribes (only part self-sufficient, otherwise town and national level social cohesion breakes) that are of the size of Dunbar number (~100-250) is one important step for a better future. For all our evolutionary history, we had a tribe, while modernity has tricked us that we are lone-living individualist animals.


>>128281377
Paganism is a lot like Christianity because Christianity pretty much appropriated all of paganism, and put a Jesus-cover to it. Christmas is Yule and so forth.

>>128282355
That's hilariously untrue. Royal families were notorious for incest during the church's time.

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>>128279838
Interbreeding is a mostly Anglo and Central European thing. My ancestors have lived in Finland since 1700s, my paternal side comes from central Sweden before that. Nothing unusual to have all traceable ancestors from one country. And I do not consider it mixing if it's a North European with North European.

The Gods are the same, the codes of honour are the same. Does not matter if you call it Zeus or Perkele, different languages have different words for the same thing.

>>128274730
They're off making the best Black Metal.

See:

Drudkh
Windswept
Hate Forest
Nokturnal Mortum

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Repent

>>128274822
>>128274937

It's basically all the same. Just different names.

Perun = Thor

>>128282204

>the trinity is incompatible with Christianity

Elaborate?

>>128283420
>burger education
not everyone was royalty anon

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>>128270152

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>>128273761
they are not representations you fucking heretic

they are beings I have seen them

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gonna dump some debunked christcuck memes

>>128274822
You realise that it's all the same shit, right? Just with a different language.

>>128277032
Never seen this. This is great.

>>128284634
I didn't say the trinity itself, I said attempts to describe the trinity. Anytime someone tries to describe the trinity, the church labels the belief a heresy because the description has to misrepresent some part of the bible to work.
Arianism, tritheism, mortalism, modalism, and more are all heresies because they fail to describe the trinity in a way that is consistent with Christian theology.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WKvChPy1y0

>>128284653
You're a burger too, anon. The church knew more about individual monarchs than it knew about individual people, so why did it not stop all the inbreeding?

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>>128285432
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>When you have to defend your larping, dead religion this much

anon..

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>>128270044
>pro nationalism
>pro tribalism

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>>128285827
YOU ARE LITERALLY DOING MR GREENBERG'S WORK FOR HIM YOU FUCKING KIKE

>>128285615

>>128285827
I'll defend it in a much easier way then. Give us the source to your pic. Note the last name.

>>128285664

Could you tell me how these explanations don't work?

Isn't father = god, son = Jesus, Holy Ghost = spirit (and in Paganism basically the people).

I'm confused as to how that would violate anything in Christianity. I'm not denying what you're saying just interested in learning this.

>>128270044
This shit is too ancient for me.

>>128285729
Conveniently forgetting that Charlemagne slaughtered all the saxons after they repeatedly rebelled and killed his people.

>>128285827

>not drinking semen

hahaha KEK

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>>128286283
He killed them because they wouldnt convert to Christianity

>>128286090
You'd have to look into each heresy to see what specifically makes it a heresy to the church.
I might think it makes sense, you might think it makes sense, but if the church sees a flaw in the theology, it's heretical.

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>post an entire image with sources and facts to back it up utterly debunking odin drinks cum meme
>a guy posts it, having totally ignored what I worte

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>>128285432
Thanks for these. It's unbelievable how easy these people craft lies, they are so wrong that they can not have believed themselves the lies for a second.

Lying is not a virtue.

>>128285827
>speak bullshit
>get Told
>''Y-You're t-trying too h-hard...''
Weak. Disgusting.

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>>128287657
Thanks mongolbro. Hail Perkwunos

>>128285827
>defending your point of view is bad
>the only rebuttal he can think of is the quote from some jewish faggot propaganda book
I'm falling for the bait, but I don't care anymore

>>128270044
Should similiar pagan churches unite?

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>>128270044
>down the path of your ancestors
but my ancestors were catholic

>>128288429
And what were they before that?

>>128288429
>Poland gets raped by other catholics
>Poland remains christian
Can't make this shit up

>>128285579
>shitting on the golden one
He does LARP at times, but his message is good.

>>128288411

For what purpose?

The only uniting that would make sense, currently, is some form of "connection" between Americans and Europeans in so far as a "we all have the same ancestry, we are united in its celebration" to show just how large of a movement it is.

Paganism had always been about smaller tribes and individual ceremonies. An overarching organization is always harmful to this way of life.

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>>128288804
He literally wants us to ally with christians, the FUCKING ENEMY. Fuck that

>>128288871
If we remain as small tribes of whites, we would be swallowed by non-whites, but much differently than today.

>>128289001
Pagans are so few in numbers that we're entirely irrelevant in almost every country. Picking a fight with Christians is the worst possible move we could make strategically.

>>128276293
Poo

>>128288640
nothing

>>128288871
There are just lots of similarities, and if we have an opportunity to enforce ethnic unity, why not take it?
I don't mean connecting slavic churches with norse or baltic ones of course. I feel like a union between latvian and lithuanian pagans, for example, could work since we're pretty much the same tribe.

>>128289001
I AM Christian, but I recognize that a universal religion in this day and age does not cut it out for whites anymore. We need something new, something with enough universalism that includes all whites, and with enough tribvalism to exclude non-whites. The Church donates MILLIONS every year to non-whites so they can breed like rats, while completely ignoring the white youth that is becoming more and more degerate.

Don't be a Varg cultist. He is right on certain things, and he means well, but man, when he is wrong, he fucks it completely up.

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>>128289207
>national socialists are low in number
>national socialists should ally with marxists, feminists, and jews

>>128270044
Fuck off fag, I don't want to live in a mud hut. Fucking pagans are worse than fucking christians. bunch of cringey ass larpers.

>>128289001
"Enemy of my enemy" mentality?

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>>128289316
Fuck off crypto-kike

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>>128289422
Christians, Muslims, and Jews are all the enemy. They will stop at nothing to exterminate us

>>128289271
wew lad
>>128289326
That's not what I'm suggesting. The national socialists got into power and popularity because they didn't demonize the opposition as much as they glorified themselves.
Hitler's plan was to slowly transform Germany into a pagan state by making paganism more appealing and socially acceptable. That's the plan we need to follow now.

>>128289526
Not an argument. Also, Christianity is imbued with a lot of native European traditions. Is Christmas not derived from Yule?

Also that screenshot is contradictory. On one point it says that Christians are violent and slaughtered all the pagans, on the other hand it says that we are cucks who let our women get raped by muslims.

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>>128289885
You worship a jew.

>>128289709
Yet Christians could be a pool of recruitment. I am questioning my religion every day, even more, but retards like you make paganism sound dumber by the second. You are worse than protestants who spam the memes you countered in every thread about paganism.

>>128289975
And I am currently seeking the truth, since the Church has abandoned white Christians, and because I know several jews that converted into Christianity, but have not changed their ways.

You are not doing your movement any favors, which makes me think you could be a shill.

>>128289975
he is Son of God not jew

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Give the enemy no mercy, for they shall give you none.

>>128290062
I have no idea where that hostility is coming from.
>Christians could be a pool of recruitment
That's exactly what I was getting at. Hitler wanted paganism to be appealing enough that people would voluntarily convert, which is what I want too.

>>128289975
>European pantheon of white gods/goddesses as portrayed by Christians
>Judeo and/or Christian and/or Islamic Gods/prophets as depicted by Jews

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>>128290567

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>>128289975
Stronk pagans!

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>>128290211
>I'm abandoning what's mine because the wolves have taken it
You'll never find the truth.

>>128290718
>>128290766
>when the JIDF doesn't coordinate with it's members

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>>128285390
Your objection is one (((pope))) that said that. True Christians will always be anti-semite because we think that they killed God in the flesh, they are deicidal. So, if they still think that their messiah hasn't come, they are not christians and don't have anything to do with us.

Whosoever denies the Son, the same has not the Father: [but] he that confesses the Son has the Father also. John 2:23

>>128285432
This pictures comes to refute the fact that Norse white blue eyed people are "superior" as Varg usually claims, when the fact that this type of architecture was made by brown eyed meds. Nobody would claim that just because christianity they became more intelligent or more capable, the fact was that being med doesn't imply that you are inferior, quite the opposite in this case if you measure architecture at least.

>>128285510
IDC about Hitler all that much to be honest, he took really good socio-economic decisions, but went overboard with the race factor.

>>128285675
You seem to ignore the fact that if you come from and european country you have jewish blood in your veins. When the temple of Jerusalem fell in 70AD, jews were scattered ALL over the world, and if you take account of how much ancestors you have until that era, theirs almost 0% chance that you don't have semitic blood in your veins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXQcjmLw_Rc
1:14:05

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>>128291195
>but went overboard with the race factor.
>you have jewish blood in your veins
>theirs almost 0% chance that you don't have semitic blood in your veins.

And the Christian shows his true nature

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>>128290718
We can cherrypick pictures of spergish looking members of both of our religions all day but that won't lead to any actual conclusions

>>128270044

>path of ancestors
>german religion

Oh, fuck, here we go again.

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>>128289975
God has a nationality? Please explain that to me.

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>>128291561
read a fucking book you dumb mongrel

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>>128291331
Nice rebuttal, you dont seem to honor the inteligence of our race by being just posting memes and writing 0 arguments.

>>128291331
lol are you stupid? Jesus wasnt jewish, you fucking retard.

>>128291444
We already settled this. We're not suggesting that everybody follow the German pantheon, but that everybody follow the pantheon of their ancestors.

>>128290567
>implying Albanians take religion seriously
>implying muslim Albanians do not celebrate Christian saints through pagan rites

Religion is an upfuckery in Albania, we might as well be considered something else entirely. That is, until a few years ago. Arabs and Turks are shilling more and more for radical Islam. In Albanian-inhabited territories such as Kosovo and Western Macedonia they are becoming more and more Kebab. The church, both the Orthodox one, and the Catholic one are not giving a fuck, so sorry if I am pissed off right now.

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>>128291353
>LARPer
>Religion
Pick one.

When was the last time you slaughtered a white bull or cut a fig in half to divine the future? What you do has no relation to long dead paganism, it's just Jewish New Age bullshit in a Viking costume.

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>>128291195
I for one am nearly 100% certain that I've not a drop of jewish blood. It would be a miracle if I had even 1%, jews didn't really enjoy the Nordics. And it doesn't matter if someone is drop jewish by blood. Your logic is ''we are all Africans'' -tier. What matters is what one is most, and one would certainly know if he is more than 50% jew by blood.

I wonder why paganism gets so much hate. (((They))) and their minions are scared it seems.

>>128270373
>Christians and Pagans will stand together against the tide in RaHoWa.
We don't stand with any of you degenerates
>>128274170
The Pagan Roman empire lasted 400 years
The Christian Roman Empire lasted 1000 years
>>128285432
>>128285729
>>128285645
>>128285615
>>128285510
>>128285470
>>128285707
>>128285675
>Debunking Christian memes against Paganism
>posts Pagan memes against Christianity
>>128289001
>Posts pagans as white aryans
>forgets that Greeks, the most successful and advanced pagan civilisation was olive skinned

>>128291561
>God has a nationality?
I'd say the god of Abraham is one of the most nationalistic gods. He specifically creates a nation of people (Israel) and declares them his chosen people. He also declares that the messiah will come from this nation and for this nation.

>>128291195
>You seem to ignore the fact that if you come from and european country you have jewish blood in your veins. When the temple of Jerusalem fell in 70AD, jews were scattered ALL over the world, and if you take account of how much ancestors you have until that era, theirs almost 0% chance that you don't have semitic blood in your veins.
1. You are new to /pol/
2. The jews that were scattered all over Europe were not numerous enough to fuck or be fucked by every single European woman or man.
3. Jews keep to themselves. Their incest rate is very high.

>>128291923
>why aren't you practicing your religion the way i imagine you would?

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>>128291935
You know all 18.500.000.000.000.000.000 of your ancestors? (Just until 70AD).

And if you think paganism is being targeted, you clearly don't know much about history. Every multimillionare in this day an age comes in one way or the other from freemasonry, a secret lucifarian cult that was created to subvert and destroy christianity. They were the causes of the Reinassance, French Rev, Communism, and every event that led to the decay that we see in the world. Every event that led us further from God. Now you tell me that's not being scared of a religion.

>>128290284
>>128289975
>Christians have been battling and colonising Jews and Muslims for over 1000 years, While the pagan nords were still living in mud huts
>Somehow Pagans are the protectors of Europe

>>128291923
Well, lithuanian paganism (Romuva) doesn't entail animal sacrifice, as a matter of fact, respect for nature is one of the key ponts of it. I don't read any religious books, besides some collections of pagan myths.

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>>128292112
>The Christian Roman Empire lasted 1000 years
The
>Not Holy
>Not Roman
>Not Empire

>>128292558
>renaissance
>bad

Go away.

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>>128292766
Im talking about the Byzantines you mongrel
>>128292790
>Created the conditions for jews to rise into positions of power
>good

>>128292766
He means the Byzantine Empire.

>>128292615

>colonising Jews
>not the opposite

Fucking lol

>and Muslims
We both got rekt by the turks (read namefagging ) so fuck off.

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>>128292283
>Doesn't want to follow actual pagan religions
>Practices New Age crystal collecting and depravity
>Is disgusting fatbot.
>Tries to hide fact his entire "religion" is based around pissing parents off
>REEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>128270044

>>128292943
Elaborate.

>>128292766
>he considers holy roman empire instead of byzantium
kys saatana perkele

>>128292790
Reinaissance was the first step towards taking God out of the social equation. Anthropocentrism led to everything that is wrong with this world today.

>>128270044
Why didn't Hitler use a cross on his flag if he cared about christianity so much?

Checkmate christcucks

>>128291195
My DNA test says 0% jewish blood.

>>128293044
>all those implications
We have other pagan threads where we specifically dispel the myths surrounding paganism. Lurk more and you might see why your understanding of paganism is flawed.

>>128290619
It'd be pretty detrimental to associate symbology of massive demographics as hate symbols.

The star and crescent is the greatest threat to Jews and Israel and yet they don't consider it a hate symbol.

Also the comparison is purposdely dishonest.
>which are not actually christian under bilbical teachings

The pagan symbology, as it is used, is also therefore not pagan because hateful ideologies have coopted them?

Does that make paganism a hateful belief system in comparison?

Is Paganism based on hate. No.

You're just a fucking Kike trying to pit Pagans and Christians against each other, because (((you))) know exactly that what (((they))) fear.

>>128292943
>>128292558
So I have to know literally every ancestors before I'm allowed to despise the jews? Sounds like someone doesn't want people to go after the Chosen people.

>>128293005
>>128293108
>Byzantine
It doesn't even have the word Roman in it.

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>>128293046
Great post
deus gevalt homeland in middle east calls us to arms

>>128293380
Even if it did say Jewish blood, it can very easily be wrong. Jewish ancestry is notoriously hard to pinpoint in DNA tests so their method of tracing it is different. If you take a DNA test and it reveals Jewish ancestry, it actually just means that you have the same gene as some modern Jews who could very well have inherited it from a European ancestor.

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>>128293652
To be fair, there is very little evidence that the Byzantines actually called themselves that.
They almost certainly referred to themselves as Romans.

>>128293652
Because that name was attributed to it by modern historians. They called themselves Romans.

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"Long have I been with you, my folk.
Long have I been your protector - guardian.
I have given you strength and spirit to forge on during the harshest of times and in the most severe of circumstances.

Even when you turned your backs on me to follow a weak martyr-god so that you might 'inherit the earth', I watched over you and granted my strength to you.
Because you are my folk, I did not turn my back on you.

When the barbarians and desert riders were at your gates it was I that stood alongside you. And together we repelled that force.

But of late your conduct has been such that I can no longer recognize you as the folk who once stood so proud in battle. You no longer respect any god - nor do you seem to respect yourselves.

Your men act as women and cowards - weeping with fear and shame. Too afraid have you become [to] stand up for yourselves that, once again, barbarians are at your gates but you do nothing. You allow your women to be raped and kill your own children because it is the easy path.

I no longer know you and you no longer know yourselves.

I am calling to you, Men of the West, to tell you to remember me. Know that I am The Oak. I am The Mountain. I am The Thunder and The Lightning - I am The Storm. I make that which is barren fruitful and I punish those that would do evil. When you come to know me, you may begin to remember yourselves.

I am Thunor and you were once my folk. One day, you may be my folk once again."

>>128293838
kek
saved

>>128293652
>pagan education

>>128293005
>jews
during the Christian Middle Ages, Jews were prosecuted in every Christian nation. The Renaissance and its strafe from God allowed the jewish colonisation of the west
>Muslims
The Byzantines BTFO'd them again and again,and held off the Turks for 200 years, after the West could not and much later on the west colonised nearly all of Muslim Africa and the Mid East
>>128293072
During the Renaissance, Europe saw the rise of Banking, Insurance companies and Investment and Trust funds, which are industries which even today are controlled by jews as they allow the to manipulate money at the state and societies expense. Also, the opposition of the Catholic Churuch, which until then opposed jewery was now unable to stop the spread of the kikes into various European Nations as well as into various sectors of the economy and the state
>>128293652
Leave the thread, turn off the PC and rerad a history book. HOw can you oppose CHristianity if you don't know a single page of its history and infuence in Europe

Why can't we have a nice Pagan thread without you Christian spergs spreading your insecurities all over it?

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>>128291195
You faggots seriously need to stop sucking jew dick.

>>128293838
lel

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>>128270044
There is only one God and Christ Jesus is His Lamb.
Deus Vult heathens!

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>>128294096
They're christians. They revere only their jew god. Their race means nothing to them.

>>128294096
I hope one there would be actual serious discussion and not only pagan hate in these threads.

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>>128294296
Exhibit A. The Christian Race Traitor

>>128294296
You're probably memeing, but why do so many Christians revel in killing pagans?

>>128294078
Got it. When people say Renaissance, I mostly think of science and arts. You Orthodox Church may look after the Greeks, but the Albanian Orthodox Church looks after you. Do not lie to me by saying that Yannoulatos is NOT looking after the Greek interests in Albania, one of which is (in the very long term) the taking of the so-called Northern Epirus.

As for the Catholic Church, all they do is take money from useful idiots and give them to Africans to breed, and promote pro-refugee politics.

>>128276156
>When you know that Thor was a dragqueen

>>128275281
That's no Norse.

>>128294515
your* orthodox church

>but the Albanian Orthodox Church looks after you.
To expand upon this: some high up orthodox priest said that we should stop celebrating the Ides of March in Albania because it is paganism and 'promotes populism'. Every now and then some orthodox priest makes anti-patriotic statements.

>>128276619
Egalitarianism is filth, though.

Christ worshipers where burning pagan temple's and killing people.

Pagans where killing only if they had to, but burned churches out of discust for self enslaving christcucks.

Main difference.

As it comes to pagans coexisting with moslem scum, it would be only more of an reason ... same goes towards jews.

In current day, pagans (I consider myself as one) capable to tolerate other religions... I sort of am Christian too, but only for need of appearance, as DESU not that stupid to be believing in some imaginary friend being so and so.

Scandinavians had very different introduction and baptism, but mainly got forced, being in a communities and traveling/returning from Christ worshiping areas.

Last Europeans pagans Balts- they still have true normal "religion" and tradition, as well as sensible mental approach.

When polaks got chased out of Khazaria 6'th starting, main waves 8-9'th centuries, they adopted Catholism and begged repeatedly popal support in conquering pagans, to the sizeable clay they are.

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>>128294329
You fucking dumb cunt
You think Christians don't care about their race, heritage or identity? If that were the case, why did they oppose the Turkish and Arab invasions for Hundreds of years, while Pagans converted and gave up their religions for Christianity?
And what do you think kept opposition alive in Spain, Greece, Serbia and Bulgaria during the Arab and later Turkish occupations? The Christian Church. Why do you think Athiest nations like Albania converted to Islam whilst Greece, Serbia and Bulgaria remained Christian? The Church was then and still is a unifying factor of society, a culture preserver and a heritage protector. Who was it that organised and funded the armed rebellions in these countries when the time was right? The Church. And the fighters, now fighting for God as well as country, died heroically, as they knew they were doing the Lords work by wiping the roaches off the planet, whilst the athiest or former pagan nations had now been converted to Islam
Also
>Ancient Romans and Greeks
>white
We never aren't, never were and never will be white . Our accomplsihments are not yours

>>128285390
>one jew said that, so it does not mean anything about Christianity!
>one pope said this, it totally undermines everything else!
Take a deep breath, take a step back and a good look in the mirror. What are you fighting for?

>>128291195
They missed out on the whole history of christianity.
They are judging it on the last 15 years of christian zionism and pedophile priest. Literally the
only groups who have posed any resistance to the jewish agenda were christian. There entire history of united States obscenity law is nothing but christian groups standing against the jewish agenda. I know of ZERO pagan or atheist groups who did so.

>>128295249
If you look white, you're white m8

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>>128295249
You're not supposed to according to the bible

>>128295387
I assume it is because of the small number of pagans and because atheists are degenerate.

>>128293652
>It doesn't even have the word Roman in it.
They called themselves Romans. Doesn't matter what the slander was. It's like national socialist -> nazi.

>>128295249
>If that were the case, why did they oppose the Turkish and Arab invasions for Hundreds of years
Because they didn't agree with them about religion. That's it. Christianity gives you literally fucking 0 incentive to give a single shit about race. Point to me a single verse in the new testament that speaks against miscegenation.

>>128293838
Too passive aggressive on the top row.

>>128294505
Catholicism took dark turns in the past.
It has evolved now, as did pagans.

>>128270044
Is zoroastrian pagan?

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>>128294515
>>128294922
for this very reason i support our Church, for it looks out for us and puts our National interests above any doctrine. The Church keeps the Greek identity alive in that country, unlike what any of these Pagan LARPers believe
>>128295431
i don't and neither did Plato, Aristotle, Alexander, Leonidas or any of our heroes you call "white"
>>128295350
Bruh our Orthodox Church is incredibly anti semitic and anti Islam even today and actively stops its spread, unlike Varg and the other faggots you worship
>>128295577
What? White? I already know that
>>128295745
Yeah, when our priests died facing the roaches to free the homeland that totally was because they didnt give a shit about our race

>>128296060
Paganism generaly means all pre-abrahamic religions, so yes

>>128295249
Absolutely based Greek post.

>>128296005
Together
I believe most Christians are wrong, but not evil.

>>128295577
How can you be this deluded? Turning the other cheek means that YOU personally were attacked in a minor fashion, and that YOU should not act likewise.

>>128296149
Is it so hard to believe that some people in Greece are white and some are not?

>>128296149
>Bruh our Orthodox Church is incredibly anti semitic and anti Islam even today and actively stops its spread, unlike Varg and the other faggots you worship
I was opposing the pagan faggot who was clearly spreading lies, and didn't even manage to stick to a single standard for one memepic.

>>128296178
I don't mind pagans or their ways, I just try to comprehend the image you guys have in your minds when you think of your Gods.
Are they more implied than anything relevant to your culture or are they completely different from one another like Odin and Zeus?

>>128292112
The pagan Roman empire lasted 400 years, and prior to that it lasted 500 years as the Republic where it forged most of its glory.

The christian Roman empire had straight-up half of it collapse into chaos, almost immediately dying a violent death, with the other half mired in stagnation and slow decline for 1000 years, slowly being whittled into nothingness until finally becoming Turkish rape slaves for almost 700 years, and now it's a collection of joke countries that can't pay debnts

>>128296315
yeah, we call the Tourists
>>128296388
sorry, i was meant to reply to the other Finn

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>>128296005
kek, LARPagans and kikes have more common, as they both hate Christianity and Christian civilization. They are natural allies against us.

>>128296315
This is why the /pol/ concept of "White" is bullshit. And the supposed "White nationalists" should change their name to "European nationalists" because that's what they really are.

>>128296149
Alexander was specifically described as fair skinned. White=/= Nordic. You are white. Your church is based, I know that. If I were Greek, it would be fucking stupid of me to even give pagans the benefit of the doubt.

I am not, and I have to look out for Albanians, even the scum (and you know how much of that we have). Islam is the greatest enemy Albania faces as of now. Then comes cultural Marxism. Then comes your influence in our Church.

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Bumping for a return to greatness

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>>128296149
>Bruh our Orthodox Church is incredibly anti semitic and anti Islam even today and actively stops its spread
Looks like pic related confirms.
How do you feel about the worrisome rise of atheism and anti-orthodox / anti-hellenic sentiment in Greece? It seems to be in fashion. Commies particularly hate the church because it doesn't support the poor refugees.

>>128295129
>Pagans where killing only if they had to
Except the human sacrifices, killing in the name of gods that promoted war, or making war as that was the way to find salvation.
Some Christian dark turns were those based on pagan modus-operandi.

>pagans coexisting with moslem scum
Impossible. If you think Muslim treatment of "people of the book" is bad, you should see their treatment of people outside the book.

>In current day, pagans (I consider myself as one) capable to tolerate other religions... I sort of am Christian too
You're neither. You're a pathetic inbetweener.
Christian I assure you, you are not, and assuming your disdain for "believing in some imaginary friend being so and so." means you're not a true pagan either, but that disgusting, larping, inbred interpreation of paganism, christianity and occultism called "neopagans" which are just an embarassment and an insult to all 3.

>>128296564
>Vice

>>128296539
>>128296681
I'm not interested in getting into a cherry picking match to find the whitest and least white looking Greeks, but I'm willing to believe that there have always been white and nonwhite people in the area.

>>128295671
It's most likely because christianity has very definite delineated moral codes with regard to Morales and degeneracy. The rise of degeneracy has a direct inverse relationship with the decline of christendom. All of these changes we are seeing such as gay marriage are mearly the deconstruction of laws founded on christian values, period.

>>128295029
Natural equality (men prove their worth through actions) is good, forced equality ('women are exactly as capable as men') is not.

>>128296165
>>128296388
>Finnish
>Christian
Stop larping something you are not.

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>>128295745
Thats right, the bible says to avoid genealogies, but you are confusing race with nationalism, Hitler did ethnic nationalism, the Spanish Empire didn't for example, and it wasn't called "the empire where the sun never sets" for no reason.

>>128296149
You couldn't do it.

LMFAO

Sure they cared about their race, but not because they were Christian. Like I said, Christianity gives you 0 incentive to care about race. There isn't a single part of the new testament that speaks against the dangers of mixing races or ethnicities. To the contrary.

>1 Timothy 1:4 "Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do."

The new testament tells you not to care about genealogy.

>>128296681
Yeah but really it should be Northern European Nationalists because the only white people we actually care about are Germanics(Anglo-Saxon,Germans, Dutch, Scandinavians, etc.) and Celts (Irish,Scottish, Welsh, etc.)

>>128297107
>Stop larping something you are not.
I'm not larping anything. You are.

>>128297040
In my experience, Greeks can have over 50 shades of white. Their skin is very adaptive.

I've met a few that are close to nigger-tier brown in the summer yet go back to white in the winter.

>>128296564
>Us
>Yes, the christians, a united, glorious religious group
>Orthodox, protestant and catholic christians are all friends and have always been united
>We are united
If you actually think your broken up fucking religion that nobody who claims to worship it gives a shit about is gonna stop any threat in the modern age, you're mental. Christians are more likely to return to fighting each other than to fighthing muslims.

>>128297040
I think that's rational, what I don't like is when "White nationalists" claim that Greece is 100% white and that all Greek achievements are white ones, but that Turks and their achievements are absolutely not white despite significant racial overlap between the two populations. In that case it simply becomes European nationalism and race becomes essentially irrelevant.

>>128297333
checked and confirmed

>>128296532
>500 years
bullshit
>>128296564
Well seeing as pagans see nothing against homosexuality, unlike Christians, it makes sense they would do this shit
>>128296697
Fair skinned in comparison to other Greeks perhaps, Macedonia is a rather cold place.
And, not to be rude, but how it the Albanian Orthodox Church any different from ours? i was under the impression the only Orthodox Christians in Albania were Greeks in north Epirus, who also spoke Albanian. Are there actual Albanian Orthodox Christians in Albania who are not Greeks?
>>128297040
You are right, just like how there are white Arabs and White Americans
>>128296822
Its not so bad, considering the only supporters the movement has are a few commies and some former Eastern Bloc scum, not like they'll have any luck removing the deeply embedded Church from the Greek people though

>>128297516
Hooray! Now list all the religious groups that ethnically colonized Britain.

>>128296487
It is less of worshiping, just self guidance in moral and practical ways, closely connected to nature.

Or I don't kill (even a jew), because I am frightened of human society laws, but also, I believe in every creature on on earth having own soul, own world, own community, where I would bring hardship on to unnecessary.
If must, I'll kill dear or bore for food and clothing, without fear of punishment of some god or else

>>128297612
>deeply embedded
Modern propaganda shit is poison worse than chemo. If the youth starts feeling it's trendy, cool, rebellious and 'to intelligent' to be an atheist, when the old gen dies Christianity will suffer.

Islam is less cucked in this regard.

>>128296868
That is exactly the type of christcucks, I'd piss on, as your narrow-minded weakness is your religion, which you do NOT follow?
Do you?

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>>128297612
>just like how there are white arabs
Yes, exactly. They're much rarer, but they do exist.
>>128297569
The white race doesn't end at the borders of Europe. There is naturally going to be some overlap with nonwhites in European countries that border the rest of the world.
That doesn't mean we should approach white nationalism like civic nationalism just because some nonwhite people have lived in the same countries as white people.

>>128297612
>And, not to be rude, but how it the Albanian Orthodox Church any different from ours? i was under the impression the only Orthodox Christians in Albania were Greeks in north Epirus, who also spoke Albanian. Are there actual Albanian Orthodox Christians in Albania who are not Greeks?

Well, we are autocephalous not nearly as nationalistic, considering our Archbishop is Greek, and there are plenty of actual orthodox Albanians. Many Orthodox Albanians LARP as Greeks so they can get Greek (EU) passports, and some few are intermarried with Greeks, so you are only half-wrong.

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>>128297516
nice shitpost, m8.

>>128297636
I don't know what you're trying to prove with that. If anything it just reassures my point that multi-religious countries breed hostility.

>>128298016
And we are back in the stone age. Good going there mates, I bet that by unlearning truth you can save the white race and be strong.

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>>128297284
You are right, Nothing in the Bible gives any insentive to care about your race. It does, however recognise the existence of your race and will not stand in your way if you are to die defending it, as our National Heroes demonstrated in 1821. Now tell me, in what part of the Pagan Doctrine does it give any insentive to defend ones race? Where is the existence of races even mentioned? Because last time I checked, Odin was drinking semen (actual part of a Norse myth) instead of mentioning the existence of any race, or giving a reason for the Norse to defend theirs
>>128297979
Luckily ours don't
>>128298042
But just because there are a few pears in the sack of apples, doesnt mean i have a sack of pears
>>128298055
thanks for that info

>>128270044
>Pagan General
>Asatru
What about other forms of paganism, like Celtic/Slavic/Hellenic? I say this even as someone who connects with Germanic paganism the most.

>>128298218
Not many Christian countries are divided on their Christianity. Religion is the ethnic border, not nationalism, not race, not language, not culture. This is because actions and loyalties follow beliefs.
Ukrainians didn't have much of a moral trouble shelling their eastern part.

>>128298344
What do you propose?

>>128298344
Either you're with us or you remain an eternal goy

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>>128298344
I choose true religion of mankind

are runes a pagan thing? I seen megaliths but no runes

>>128298469
If the pears are superior to the apples, you'll want to get rid of the apples and start growing more pears.

>>128285729
>the Danes were raiding for revenge
>which is why they only took gold and collected Danegeld
>Christian sources are unreliable
>everything we know about paganism is Christian
Hmmmm

>>128299082
Well lucky for us that won't be necesary, considering our greatest minds and most notable figures were of the dark kind

>>128298567
Very few modern christians actually follow christianity. That's why they're not divided, they just don't care. If they were to rise up against the modern threats white civilization is facing, it would mean a return to christian fundamentalism, and therefore, increased tension between different christians, that would ultimately probably result in whites killing whites again. The second part of your post is odd. Are you implying that a world where borders would be based on religion would be good?

>>128286541
He killed them because they wouldn't stop raiding his kingdom.

>>128298016
I follow my religion to the best of my abilities.
I know I'm not Christ, nor do I claim to be.
But when I find myself weak and at fault, I know it to be evil and I know it to true, I don't make excuses for it.

Neopagans like you are just cringy. I'm focused, you call me narrow-minded.

You call yourself open minded, but you don't know anything or respect anything. It's in your way of thinking that sin in the christian and pagan sense takes root, and so you find justification for not being really pagan, or trully christian, and walk aimlessly and actually do nothing.

>>128298325
>>128298016 (You) #
And we are back in the stone age. Good going there mates, I bet that by unlearning truth you can save the white race and be strong.

Although it appears as if you disingenuous, but yes, fairly sensible overview of my view's.

I was born in Iceland (mum, dad English) and sagas where bringing some spiritual, educational strengths and lessons, impossible to compare to Christian teachings or any impact they'd had on development as grown person. Left Iceland with dad when I was 9.
(Big excerpt)
Only in recent couple of years, I dwelled bit deeper back in to paganism and it suits me just perfect.

>>128289885
The original incursions of Christianity into Europe were violent, and capable of such on the backs of strong formerly pagan people. After a significant duration of Christianity, weakness and cuckoldry prevail, as Christianity is degenerate over time. Complex and contradictory aren't the same thing.

>>128299254
What makes you so certain they weren't pears? I understand why an apple would want the best fruit to be apples, but they look like pears to me.

>>128299465
But that's not what happened. Christian Europe prospered beyond anything ever seen before in the world. It was only when people abandoned Christianity for secularism because of pride that they fell. They thought they were beyond religion, and what happened? The entire world went to war twice.

>>128299355
LOL

Your estimate of my personality or morals is below par lad

>>128299338
>fundamentalism
After the 30 year war it was decided that no wars of religion take place in Europe.

>>128299687
The Greeks were described as olive, and famous historians mentioned of Plato's and Aristotle's (among others') tanned, olive skin
Same goes for Leonidas, and based off the mosaics, im guessing alexander too

>>128299453
What's pagan about anything you've done?
The teachings of Odin were never "religious" in the sense that we understand religion.