Memes aside, who thinks Trump has a shot at securing a second

>>128270017
Do you really even think he's gonna want a second term? I don't have a hell of a lot of insight into the mans personal life but he seems like he's not enjoying himself in the slightest

>>128270120
No president in history enjoyed the job. It's more about securing a political legacy for all time and being a reference point for leadership down the road.

>>128270120
He's enjoying it believe me.

>>128270120
The guy was born for this.

>>128270120
>narcissist doesn't enjoy having the whole world hanging on his every word 24/7
Yeah, okay bro. From what I've seen, he loves it. Getting in scraps with the media is probably his favorite past-time. The only reason he wouldn't run in 2020 is if his health suddenly takes a massive downturn. And he's the incumbent, so he'll probably win too.

>>128270017
He's already secured his legendary status a President, billionaire, doctor. He's moving so hard and fast because he's know they will do everything to stop him. Even if he only get one term he has awoken the masses to the government and media corruption of the U.S.

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>>128270792
>Winners are automatically Narcissistic

>the dark forces of the world

The dark forces of the world will get him re-elected. All their bullshit is backfiring on them.

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>>128270017
Incubant effect+decrease African American voter turnout + even weaker candidate than Hillary (who did win more votes than Obama in 2008 after all) = Trump win.

He's already signed up for the 2020 campaign. Whether he's actually going to run or is just using the fact that certain (((charitable foundations))) are legally barred from performing certain (((actions))) against a presidential candidate to cockblock Soros in friends is yet to be seen however.

>>128270017
2nd term confirmed.

>>128270802
Also BTFO the Global Agenda

>>128270017
I bet the swamp will take him out by relying on his own recklessness. All of the damage Trump got was self-inflicted.
>Attacking the IC
>Flynn, everyone warned him not to appoint the guy
>Firing Comey and later admitting it was because of the Russia investigation
>Threatening Comey on twitter with tapes
>Admitting on twitter that he gave the Russians secret intel
>Reacting to the media every day and giving them huge amounts of ammunition
>Talking about the Russia stuff every single day
He could've avoided all of this. What the hell is he even doing?
Stop tweeting and shut the hell up.

>>128270017
Don't you think it's a bit early to decide if he has done a good enough job to merit a second term?
t_d personality cultists... disgusting.

>>128270389
I guarantee it.
Any attention no matter how bad feeds his ego.

>>128270017
Depends on who the Democrats run. If his term continues as it has been AND the Democrats manage to pull a fresh face out that isn't a clearly corrupt neoliberal piece of shit (so not Bernie or Clinton), then he'll probably go down.
>>128271665
Throw someone that actually offers light at the end of the tunnel for blue collar workers in as the Dem nominee, and OH, PA, and MI all instantly flip blue. IN and WI as well, probably.

Clinton winning more votes than Obama's second run means nothing. She lost to him for the primary, and Obama's second run was against a cardboard cut-out that couldn't even pretend to understand or care about people that weren't already filthy rich.

>>128272177
The funny thing is that the Twitter thing could have been a massive boost in his popularity. If he wasn't too busy saying stupid shit, it would be remembered as a modern take on Roosevelt's radio chats.

>>128272248
>Throw someone that actually offers light at the end of the tunnel for blue collar workers in as the Dem nominee, and OH, PA, and MI all instantly flip blue. IN and WI as well, probably.
What are the chances a blue collar Democrat actually wins his primary? 0%. The Southern Blacks will keep him out.

Will kasich primary trump tho?

>>128270898

This nigga spent most of his life living in a literal golden tower with his name in huge gold letters on the outside

>>128270017
considering the left is eating itself alive, duh

>>128270017
Trump should run for VP in 2020. Give Kanye a chance to Make America Great Again.

WEST/TRUMP 2020! Make it happen!

>>128272360
Of course. I have no idea what he is even doing. Slamming the media and his opponents on twitter every day wont make them stop.
This was a problem during the campaign too, he couldn't focus and needed to impulsively attack every distraction like that stupid Muslim family or that beauty pageant candidate with the sex tape.

>>128272402
Literally who?

>>128270017
Trump and his douchebags are likely to fuck up the country to the point that he is likely to lose the Republican primary.

>>128270898
hes not wrong

>>128272594
All he has to do is to stop tweeting, watch the rhetoric and stay on message. He can't even do that.

>>128272391
End of the day, poor people are poor people. It would have to be some hilarious narrow, pork barrel bullshit that would help the Rust Belt blue collar's and not poor negros. The real issue would be getting a populist through the primaries without him either being an establishment sleeper agent or hilariously incompetent (e.x. Trump). The powers that forced Clinton aren't going to sit around if an actual populist socialist (what Bernie pretended to be) was going to win.

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>>128270017
Why not?

All he has to do is start a war.

Americans always vote for the sitting president if there's a war.

>>128270017
Look no further than the economy. That's what decides if someone is re-elected.

And Trump has the Dow Jones hitting record highs every week.

And also, the unemployment rate is its best in decades.

>>128270017
Or people will realise he's shit, and not vote for him, but sure "dark forces" if you want to not have to cry yourself to sleep.

>>128272594
Says increasingly nervous boy

>>128273057
Thanks Ahmed, .02 has been added to your account.

>>128272865
>End of the day, poor people are poor people. It would have to be some hilarious narrow, pork barrel bullshit that would help the Rust Belt blue collar's and not poor negros.
As far as I understand, most of those voters aren't actually poor but rather fear for their jobs. And Trump promising to help manufacturing (which he is, by cutting regulations) made them decide to vote for him.
>The real issue would be getting a populist through the primaries without him either being an establishment sleeper agent
No one but the establishment stands a chance to win in the Democratic primaries.
>hilariously incompetent (e.x. Trump).
How exactly is Trump incompetent? Come on, tell me? He is making progress with all of his promised projects and even Obama took 2 years to create his version of healthcare despite having a bigger majority. Is Trump now supposed to be incompetent because he couldn't fulfill all of his promises within 100 days? Is this the standard you are holding him to?
>The powers that forced Clinton aren't going to sit around if an actual populist socialist (what Bernie pretended to be) was going to win.
I can tell you why Bernie lost without mentioning sinister forces: Blacks and latinos. These groups voted for Hillary and outvoted the white Democrats. That's the story. Democrats no longer care about white workers or even black workers in the rustbelt.

>>128273156
I get it. You are a born follower who loves being told what to do. Go back and bow before your master.

>>128273006
As long as unemployment is the below the "really wants a job but can't get it" threshold, it's irrelevant. The issue is the dearth of well-paying, full-time, consistent employment opportunities. If Trump can't improve that, he's in danger.

Stock market is all smoke and mirrors. Especially to poor people.
>>128272594
Trump won't lose the primary. Either he's the only relevant candidate in the primary OR the Republican's impeach him and put in Pence within the next two years (probably in a year, so that Pence can sit the full ten years).
>>128272836
At this point, he needs to deliver on something. The wall was dead of arrival. The travel ban was both symbolic AND dead on arrival. Obamacare is still around AND he isn't offering an improvement.

>>128273456
Pence is a fucked up fundie idiot who shouldn't be a dog catcher.

>>128270017
he will get second term. im voting for him again

>>128273456
He should focus on that and not on this nonsense. I used to defend Trump all the time but I can't defend the guy anymore. He has been doing so many stupid and reckless things that it's impossible for anyone to defend the guy.

>>128273568
You must love sucking rich guy cock.

>>128270017
We'll see. He's doing some good shit for the economy but getting shut down on genuine populist moves. He'll need to pull out an ace if we wants all that populist support back.

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>>128270017
I think it depends on if you believe the "it wasn't supposed to happen" theory on Trump; essentially, did the new order make a miscalculation? If so, why? And why so soon on the heels of Brexit? Are they getting sloppy? If it was a miscalculation, than we can expect them to attempt to fix it the next time around. Whether Trump can win will depend on how much he is able to cut them down during the current 4 years. If it wasn't a mistake and was just things going naturally as they appear, than it'll probably just depend on if the Trump economy keeps going at the same rate it is now.
>>128272996
He might not even have to start it with the way things are going.

>>128270017
Its depends on the left. If they keep up with their inadequacy and alienating whites - then i give him 5 Russian hackers out of 10. Add 2 for Islamic terror and 2 for achieving all of his promises.

>>128273568
If he keeps doing what he's doing, I don't see a reason not too. He's already passed my expectations by a mile.

>>128273668
Trump was rich and jewish waaay before the election.

>>128273947
Hillary not being able to keep her mouth shut doesn't give much hope.

>>128273265
>As far as I understand, most of those voters aren't actually poor but rather fear for their jobs. And Trump promising to help manufacturing (which he is, by cutting regulations) made them decide to vote for him.
Those jobs are gone and they aren't coming back. Robots will do them before they becoming a viable ticket to a middle class lifestyle again.
>No one but the establishment stands a chance to win in the Democratic primaries.
Maybe. The next two years will be interesting. Both parties are crippled zombies struggling to rally increasingly tiny voting bases. If the Democrats are forced to choose between keeping the party whole and allowing a non-establishment candidate OR sundering the party forever, they could choose the former.
>How exactly is Trump incompetent? Come on, tell me? He is making progress with all of his promised projects
Trump hasn't made real progress with anything. The Obamacare thing is a great comparison. Obama has the majority needed, but he still took forever. Trump just keeps rushing into blunders and then rushing into another blunder.

His biggest blunder is on the PR front. He needs to stop being a moron on Twitter. Use it to educate his voters instead of taking potshots at rivals and sabotaging his own message. For example, he needs to start Tweeting right now about how the Paris agreement is empty symbolism AND how Obama's action in agreeing to it without legislative approval was unconstitutional.

>>128270017
The dark forces are big money like asSoros, who failed to do anything with all that money for Hilldawg. And big propo like the flailing and failing Jew York Slimes and CNN, that are only succeeding in insulating their influence from the mushy Middle. Trump gets a second term, Pence the electric fence gets 2 terms, Gowdy slides into office after him and narrowly wins reelection before low info Americans decide to try their luck on a thoroughly centrist Democrat. And by then MAGA will have already succeeded

>>128273456
>wall dead on arrival
Are you fucking retarded? The Congress already gave him money for the prototype and seeing how he has recently turned Graham into an ally, I don't see how he won't pass his budget. He even threatened a shutdown if the whole thing doesn't go through.
>The travel ban was both symbolic AND dead on arrival.
He asked the SC to judge on that.
>Obamacare is still around AND he isn't offering an improvement.
It's a slow process since the Senate has to draft a completely new one and the give it back to the House for confirmation. Obama took 2 years to do that.

>>128270017
If he isn't killed until then I think it's very likely

>>128270017
It was the left/right pendulum swing. The pendulum was swinging to the right and hard in 2016. Despite the democrats rigging the election a good 5-15% (Trump probably also won Virginia, New Hampshire, Maine and a few others and the margins in the states he barely won were actually much higher victories but they were almost stolen) but they couldn't steal everything, they only have so much power to steal, the wave towards the right was too strong to stop. They TRIED to stop Trump, it wasn't enough. Next time is anyone's guess. The left seems totally enraged and in a frenzy, an endless blood thirst but Trump is also delivering unlike any president has before, he's keeping as many promises as he can, very unprecedented. I think both sides will be motivated to turn out next time. I think the edge will go to the right again, the left is completely jumping the shark and pissing off/freaking out normal people with their outrageousness and obvious lies. They also have no platform, just "Fuck Trump" which isn't anything to vote FOR. The right's greatest weakness is the traitors (McStain, Paul cRyan, Bitch McNeoconnell) in the republican party who won't fund the wall, won't pass tax cuts, keep trying to sabotage Trump. These people are what Trump MUST destroy before 2020. I'd give Trump a 75% chance of 2nd term right now.

>>128270017
Well if the Democrats don't wisen up then it seems evident he'll get a second term. The thing is is that Trump didn't exactly win. The Democrats lost because they had literally the worst person to run (plus they were totaly out of touch). What will have to happen is between now and then the Democratic party needs to get its shit together or just be torn down and rebuilt anew and so far it isn't looking like they've even thought about it yet.

>>128274314
Only braindead liberals take twitter seriously. And look who gets booty blasted with every tweet

>>128274314
>Those jobs are gone and they aren't coming back. Robots will do them before they becoming a viable ticket to a middle class lifestyle again.
As someone who actually has an idea what software can and can't, they aren't going to replace manufacturing jobs. What they will replacement is administration office jobs.
>Maybe. The next two years will be interesting. Both parties are crippled zombies struggling to rally increasingly tiny voting bases. If the Democrats are forced to choose between keeping the party whole and allowing a non-establishment candidate OR sundering the party forever, they could choose the former.
But their base is not blue-collar whites. It's blacks and latinos (especially the women).
>Trump hasn't made real progress with anything. The Obamacare thing is a great comparison. Obama has the majority needed, but he still took forever. Trump just keeps rushing into blunders and then rushing into another blunder.
Trump will take some time to push major projects through, just like every president before him.
>His biggest blunder is on the PR front. He needs to stop being a moron on Twitter.
But this is how he communicates with his base.
>Use it to educate his voters instead of taking potshots at rivals and sabotaging his own message.
How is he sabotating his message?
>For example, he needs to start Tweeting right now about how the Paris agreement is empty symbolism AND how Obama's action in agreeing to it without legislative approval was unconstitutional.
You can't meaningfully say that in only 140 characters.

>>128274314
>His biggest blunder is on the PR front. He needs to stop being a moron on Twitter. Use it to educate his voters instead of taking potshots at rivals and sabotaging his own message. For example, he needs to start Tweeting right now about how the Paris agreement is empty symbolism AND how Obama's action in agreeing to it without legislative approval was unconstitutional.
I doubt the twitter tirades are hurting him much with the average voter. This is a country that idolizes the likes of the Kardashians. When people see unemployment rates going down or him cucking other leaders on TV, they will still support him. Those that care and are well versed in real issues are in the minority.

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>>128272996

> This !
> This both excites and scares me
> Scared after the Redpill
> GOD KEK GIVE ME STRENGTH

>>128274314
I disagree that he's "sabotaging" himself. The reality is that he has a non cooperative legislature (in the GOP most importantly) and a directly hostile bureaucracy. He also has a new media which won't stop running negative stories, so no matter what he tweets he will have bad press; just look at the one day Twitter was quiet and the news had nothing to report, rather than find something different they brought up how he likes "two scoops" of ice cream.

I mean come on, if you can't see he's trying to ice skate uphill against this shit I don't know what can convince you; he's not sabotaging himself, he's fighting an endless cycle of hatchet men. Frankly, his tweets are about the only thing that helps keep the balance I think as it allows him to steer the negative coverage a little.

>>128274415
The wall won't be finished, and, even if it is, it won't do jackshit.

The travel ban, much like the wall, is a symbolic gesture, and the harm with it's rejection has already been done.

It's a slow process that's guaranteed to do nothing positive, even if they pass it.

>>128270017
>thoughts
yeah kys

>>128270017

If Democrats secure spots in the House for Midterms next years and he does something colossally messed up, then his chances could be low. But I don't see the Democrats royally winning right now. Just take a look at how bad Waters, Warren, and Sanders are doing right now.

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>>128274920
>a wall won't keep undesirables out
How left are you to be repeating this nonsense? You sound like a moron when you say stuff like this. It's one of the most idiotic talking points of the left, you need to drop it, get a better argument because you're not going to convince any person except your own leftist tribe that walls don't work at keeping people out of an area.

>>128274920
>The wall won't be finished
It will.
>even if it is, it won't do jackshit.
Keeping out drug dealers.
>but muh ladders and tunnels
We're not in the 10th century, we have technology against that.
>The travel ban, much like the wall, is a symbolic gesture, and the harm with it's rejection has already been done.
If the Supreme Court decides that it is constitutional, Trump will be the final winner.
>It's a slow process that's guaranteed to do nothing positive, even if they pass it.
Who says it won't be positive? I don't doubt Turtleman in that regard. This guy knows how to do shit that help Republicans.

>>128274920
The blocked travel ban may serve two new purposes going forward:
1 - Proving that yes, the president does have the power to control immigration/foreign travel at will, and
2 - Concrete proof the 9th circuit should be split and re-seated with new judges.

>>128274314
So do you enjoy spending all day here spinning your kike yarns and mental hoops?

Do you think you can *trick* people into not seeing that everyone from the media down to state level judges have been doing everything in their power to make people feel like Trump was a mistake, every time he farts CNN runs a story about it.

They want to make sure that no one ever questions their narrative again, Trump EMBARRASSED them.

Hell even just the reporters were red faced and looked like someone just forced their mouth open and shit down their throat all election night.

(((poll))) man looked like he just ran a half mile through shit and no one would let him wipe the sweat or his his shoes off.

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>>128270017
Its guaranteed dude

>>128274675
Trump has the ability to instantly communicate with his followers around the nation with no television/journalistic filters. Only a braindead retard would squander that potential.
>>128274689
They are going to replace manufacturing jobs. It has already started.

Democrats are not entirely reliant on coloreds and women, dumbass. They ignored whites (especially poor whites) and it bit them in the ass this last election.

Trump isn't focusing on any major project. He's careening from one blunder to the next. He has exactly zero relevant, ongoing projects that offer a real improvement for his voting base.

You can convey damn near anything between a couple 140 message tweets and a link or two to corroborating sources.
>>128274761
He hasn't cucked anyone, and nobody idolizes the Kardashians.
>>128274841
Covfefe, admitting he sacked Comey over the Russia thing, etc. Yes, Trump does have a non-cooperative legislature and a hostile establishment. That doesn't preclude him from making stupid mistakes.

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All the democrats have to do is not completely fuck everything up. Just by existing and doing nothing they will win. But based on their "fuck all white people" stance they have double downed on since Trump won things are looking grim.

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>>128274841
This is true, but I wish he'd go on the offensive more to keep his many enemies off-balance. Hopefully withdrawing from the Paris accord and referring the travel ban to SCOTUS are the start of that.

>>128272177
Lol this is all nothing that the media has screamed about for months. You are only reacting to the medias tone not the severity, or lack there of, oof the "offenses" you fucking easily swayed moron

>>128275904
>They are going to replace manufacturing jobs. It has already started.
Only the most basic ones and even so, the machines aren't much cheaper due to maintainence.
>Democrats are not entirely reliant on coloreds and women, dumbass. They ignored whites (especially poor whites) and it bit them in the ass this last election.
The more they pander to whites, the less they can pander to latinos.
>Trump isn't focusing on any major project. He's careening from one blunder to the next.
This is your opinion. As far as I see it, he's working together with Senate and House leaders to prepare major projects.
>He has exactly zero relevant, ongoing projects that offer a real improvement for his voting base.
Wall, Healthcare- and Tax Reform are on their way, regulations are cut to make room for more manufacturing jobs and he's also pleasing the conservative base with some minor projects.
>You can convey damn near anything between a couple 140 message tweets and a link or two to corroborating sources.
Like linking a book like Hillary did? kek

>>128275920
You know, Democrats have been working extremely hard to win because their voter demographics are incredibly lazy voters. Young people, latinos and Asians have turnout rates well below 50%. And recently, the turnout for blacks has also decreased by a big margin thanks to Obama no longer being president.

>>128270017
I'm a straight, white, Christian, male, coal miner from the South. Why shouldn't I vote for him again?

>>128276256
He's giving the media their credibility back. If Trump had made no mistakes all they had to talk about was "two scoops" and his golfing.

>>128275224
You want to strangle the cartels in their sleep? Decriminalize drugs. See how well they fare when they have to compete against corporations and local businesses. You want an empty symbolic gesture to appeal to retards? Build an actual wall.
>>128275283
You're right. It isn't the 10th century. A wall is no longer the end all be all of defensive fortifications.
>>128275373
The President does have the power to control immigration/foreign travel. 9th circuit rejected the travel ban on the, not unreasonable given Trump's campaign rhetoric, that the ban was based on religion.

>>128270017
Anything could happen in that time. If he were to run right now I think he would win. After 4 years of scandal and constant attack who knows.

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>>128270017
>still thinking Trump will make it to the end of his first term

>>128270017
50/50. On one hand, these 100 days have shown that trump is not living up to his promises and rather wants to set the white house on fire. But, maybe next year it could settle and he could get everything done but that still doesn't mean that could secure a second term if those promises like the wall don't work. Or, he could still trick his voters into electing him again even when his stuff doesn't pull through.

>>128276513
>He's giving the media their credibility back.
If they keep talking about muh Russia and nothing comes out of it, their credibility sinks even lower.
>>128276636
>You're right. It isn't the 10th century. A wall is no longer the end all be all of defensive fortifications.
You know why people build it back then? Because they are effective at stopping hostile people. Sometimes, they still manage to get over them, but it becomes harder to do so.
>The President does have the power to control immigration/foreign travel. 9th circuit rejected the travel ban on the, not unreasonable given Trump's campaign rhetoric, that the ban was based on religion.
A president also has the power to ban any race or religion. If the Supreme Court rules in Trump's favor, your kind will be shut up.

>>128276837
You actually think he will be impeached despite all of the Republican Party being (reluctantly) behind him? They are glad they get a president who signs their shit for which they get paid to vote for.

>>128276513
Any action can be spun in a negative light. Especially in a nation as ideologically divided as america. He is walking a very careful course.

>>128270017
>Memes aside, who thinks Trump has a shot at securing a second term in 2020?

He'll easily take it.

Name one thing Democrats can run on other than "2 SCOOPS BLUUUUUMPFGHR"

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>>128276837
did u know that china is the World's leader in renewable energy AND is a 3rd world country

>>128276893
>On one hand, these 100 days have shown that trump is not living up to his promises and rather wants to set the white house on fire.
Has Trump promised to push through all his promises in his first 100 days?
>if those promises like the wall don't work.
Why woulnd't the wall work? It costs up to 10 billion dollars, which is cheaper than other stuff and the Republicans in the Senate seem to have the necessary votes to vote for it. They just need to abolish the filibuster.

>>128276936
Yes absolutely that's why he shouldn't create smoke when there is no fire. I don't even believe this whole Russia thing but the way Trump and his people have been acting it looks like it's true to some people.

>>128277069
If Obama had done this it would have been a mistake too.

>>128276279
>Only the most basic ones and even so, the machines aren't much cheaper due to maintainence.
You're utterly delusional. Automation is going to devastate labor markets within the next few decades.

>The more they pander to whites, the less they can pander to latinos.
Stop being a moron. Both of those groups have mutual issues within the U.S. Both of them are hurt by the shitty economy, runaway MICC, executive overreach, etc.

>This is your opinion. As far as I see it, he's working together with Senate and House leaders to prepare major projects.
Cool fantasy. I'll be over here in reality, where Trump has fuckall going on and has a Congress that is more likely to impeach him in ~18 months than anything else.

>Like linking a book like Hillary did? kek
No, you have to link something free and easy to read/digest. There have been plenty of articles written about how shit the Paris agreements were.

>>128275904
>He thinks covfefe hurt Trump
Probably a legit typo, but ironically it proved his point that the media will spend days sperging out over tiny irrelevancies just to have something to attack him with. They made themselves look ridiculous yet again, meanwhile Trump and his base clearly thought it was funny so if anything the attack helped him.

>>128277023

>tfw eurocunts don't know about midterms

kek

>>128270017
barring a big shift, i don't think so

>>128270017
He certainly has a shot, but has a bigger shot of being impeached.

>>128270017
This man should be retired. He's just like my dad. Old and will never stop working.

>>128270017
If he pleases enough fat cats he will, if not he won't.

>>128277416
how can he be impeached? a president can't be impeached just because he hurts your feewings.

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Former liberal here, supported Trump last election but didn't vote. I'll be sure to vote for him this time!

Out of the Paris Accord
Out of TPP
Removing Obama appointees
Saying fuck you to the globalist
Pushing us towards energy independence
...yup, i'll vote next time MAGA 2

>>128277216
>Yes absolutely that's why he shouldn't create smoke when there is no fire. I don't even believe this whole Russia thing but the way Trump and his people have been acting it looks like it's true to some people.
The ones who bring it up all the time are the Democrats.
>You're utterly delusional. Automation is going to devastate labor markets within the next few decades.
Starting with white-collar jobs. You know how hard it is to do precision labour?
>Stop being a moron. Both of those groups have mutual issues within the U.S. Both of them are hurt by the shitty economy, runaway MICC, executive overreach, etc.
Latinos in California voted against gay marriage. Does this mean they are Republicans, just because they hold conservative views? No.
>Cool fantasy. I'll be over here in reality, where Trump has fuckall going on and has a Congress that is more likely to impeach him in ~18 months than anything else.
MUH IMPEACHMENT. For what? And who exactly is going to impeach him. The majority Republican House or the majority Republican Senate? You nigger will realize that Trump will get most of his shit done and the Congress will be happy because he also signs their shit.
>No, you have to link something free and easy to read/digest. There have been plenty of articles written about how shit the Paris agreements were.
Because the average retard on twitter has enough interest to read through such an article, right?
>>128277308
I know what a midterm is you fucking retard and I also know what an impossible task it is for Democrats to win back the House. Not to mention the Senate where Democrats need to defend a shitload of seats in red states while only the Nevada seat of Republicans is in any danger. Also, Republicans have better demographics in off-years because even less minorities vote.

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>When the presidents son in law is caught asking Russia for spy gear so he can have private conversations with Russia without being monitored but trumptards ignore this and keep bringing up how alpha he is because he shoved the leader of some shitty little tax haven out of the way

Kind of sad when France is making you look stupid desu

>>128277416
For what and by whom? The Republican Party can't impeach Trump because it would cost them in the midterms and especially in 2020 where they could even lose the House and with it, 100 seats due to Democratic gerrymendering.

>>128277724
Yes but he is dumb to respond to these idiots. Ignore these idiots.

>>128277586
Constitution is actually pretty vague on grounds for impeachment.
>>128277298
I think covfefe was just yet another of Trump's Twitter blunders. On its own, it's irrelevant, but eventually a pattern is developed.
>>128277216
>Yes absolutely that's why he shouldn't create smoke when there is no fire. I don't even believe this whole Russia thing but the way Trump and his people have been acting it looks like it's true to some people.
This.

>>128277777
I'm glad they're talking to the Russians. Better them than the Muslims

I think he is well on his way to being re-elected.

Also if you think the russia investigation is anything more than a political circus you are and idiot

>>128277858
You can either ignore such accusations or fight back. Bush did the former and it didn't turn out well for him.
>Constitution is actually pretty vague on grounds for impeachment.
You need the majority of the House and 2/3 of the Senate for an impeachment. That's why no president has been impeached yet.

>>128277777
is this the end of drumpf?

>>128277996
Achmed, learn how to English. We're talking about the reasons why you can be impeached, not the legal mechanism for doing so.

>>128272177
You're an idiot. Trump never admitted shit about comey. Leave you French fag and watch your wife get fikifikid

He will win because the general American left is making mistakes that they are not charismatic enough to play of as just them. Trump may be reckless but he has played that recklessness as part of his quirk while the left have built themselves up to be infallible, so when they say something like "half of all Trump supporters are deplorable" it hits much harder

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>>128276513
I think there have been several occasions where he's deliberately stirred up the MUH RUSSIA conspiracy again. It keeps the dems preoccupied and hysterical over something that will ultimately be proven to be a complete fiction. On that glorious day, new records for salt mining will be set amongst shitlibs and the fake news, and the dem's base will become seriously angry with the DNC that the impeachment they were promised isn't coming.

>>128278084
And the reasons are what? That he's a meanie who talked to some Russian chick 100 years before his election?

>>128270017
No
Crash the markets now

>>128277777
how does Kushner talking to Russia have anything at all to do with Trump shoving Montenegro out of the way? Those things have nothing to do with each other in any way. Furthermore even if the accusations against Kushner are true, they have no connection to Trump himself, so what's your point?

It would be like if your brother raped someone, are you, by association of your brother, connected with that rape?

>>128270017
He's the biggest dark force of the world. He's encouraged a lot of fringes, mentally diseased, deplorables qnd degenerates to step forward and channel their anger. He's fueling hate to fill his own pocket, bastard!

>>128272566
You're still an idiot.

You think twitter consumes a huge amount of his time? He is drawing these faggots out so the world can see their one sided non objectivity

>>128277996
Yes but you need to do this the right way.

>>128278094
He made it sound/look like that. He's giving the media huge amounts of ammunition this way. They will attack him on everything no need to give them a target to attack.

>>128278338
He doesn't need to do that. Everyone will see that they're biased when they're talking about "two scoops".

>>128277863
yeah its vague. so you think that's why we keep hearing this constant bullshit in the news? I heard some guy saw some shit on a taco bell napkin that incriminated trump... hearsay evidence is bullshit bruh. also the house wouldn't vote for it.

you cant win a election from jail

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>>128277724

>I also know what an impossible task it is for Democrats to win back the House

No you fucking sausage. It's going to be impossible for them to win the Senate back. Congress and House are on the chopping block. Senate doesn't even fucking matter in this situation. If the Dems get Congress and the House, not only will they impeach him but they will elect any fuckstick they want as Speaker of the House, who WILL be president if Dems get their way and get Trump and Pence. Get your head out of your ass. Or don't, I guess.

>>128278499
Obama also gave Republicans plenty of ammo to hang themselves on the Birth Certificate thing

>>128270017
he will be a two term president, and the second run will be much easier than the first.

Success will get him reelected. The problem he has is the republicans dont know how to win. They have a super majority in all wings of the government and they still squabble and waste time. Trumps already done a lot but his key campaign promises will get him reelected.
Republicans are complete cucks though. So many rinos, I honestly think they are trying to lose so the dems can take over.

>>128278552
^ being this retarded.

>>128278604
Yes but there is a difference between getting accused of colluding with a foreign country and getting accused of being a foreign Kenyan Muslim.

>>128278499
>Yes but you need to do this the right way.
There is no right way to fight the left. You only fight in a way that motivates your base.
>>128278597
>Congress and House are on the chopping block. Senate doesn't even fucking matter in this situation. If the Dems get Congress and the House, not only will they impeach him but they will elect any fuckstick they want as Speaker of the House, who WILL be president if Dems get their way and get Trump and Pence. Get your head out of your ass. Or don't, I guess
Nigger are you so fucking dumb that you don't understand that the Congress consists of the Senate AND the House? And even if they were to win back both (which is practically impossible) they need 66 votes in the Senate to impeach Trump and there aren't even enough seats from Republicans up this election.

>>128275904
Why don't you stop pretending to be a centrist. Your retarded liberal bias is obvious

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>>128270017

When the SHTF he becomes Literal god emperor.
So I think his chances are *quite good*
Practically unavoidable, actually.

The Interesting thing is that while Germany was the home of the 3rd Reich, since so much power has been collected in the united states - America will be the home of the 4th Reich and Germany/Europe will be a companion NS union.

He should and WILL win.
The crying will be even more fun the second time.

>>128273456
He delivered on scotus, improving the economy, he's pushing for immigration reform, and now he got us out of the climate deal. What more could we want so far?

>>128279302
Don't forget that he started building the prototypes for the wall.

>>128277777

Your fanfic sucks.

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>>128278816

>Being this ignorant of American politics

Sausage pls

>>128279784
Maybe you should spend less time trolling on online forums and start being more interested in how your government is actually run.

>>128272391

Bill Clinton before he became a neoliberal

>>128279872
Back then the Democrats backed a bill to build a border fence. Now they oppose it with all their being.

>>128271665

Texas will be blue in 2020

>>128279870

Oh I know plenty, sausage. I just like to mock high-and-mighty foreigners who think they know everything.

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>>128280031
Not for a while if things continue at their current pace.
>>128280050
>muh there is Congress, Senate and House in the Congress

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>>128270017
>who thinks Trump has a shot at securing a second term in 2020?

He's betrayed all of his voters and done ZERO of what he said he would do. You tell me OP?

>>128270017
Demokike candidate:
>Shitlery, who's about to go to jail
>le old jewish cuck man
>those 3 other dudes that ran in 2016 that noone remembers or gives a shit about
>fake indian who scammed affirmative action

Yea he has a definite shot of winning a second term

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>>128280257

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>>128280217
Nice try, Schlomo.

Him visiting Israel and getting fucked over by these (((judges))) on the travel ban somehow invalidates everything else he's accomplished?

Depends on who is running against him.

If it's Warren or Sanders, Trump easily.

>>128277777
Yet another get wasted on a shitposting leaf.

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>>128280322
>be 6'2"
>have to bend over to accept award from saudi manlets

>>128280346
>literally everyone in politics has been to Israel and has a pic wearing a jew hat at the holohoax wall
>let's pretend it's unique to Donald even though he's named the jew in the past

Want me to countermeme with Obama pics?

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>>128270017
blah blah blah we know we know

>he wont run for president
>he wont get serious support
>he wont make it through the debates
>he wont make it through the primaries
>he wont get nominated
>he wont beat evil hillary
>he wont get the electoral college votes
>he wont get confirmed by congress

[you are here, with the other delusional retards]

>he wont win a 2nd presidential term

i'm sure THIS will be the end of president trump though. LMAO.

>>128270017
a couple more episodes of The Kathy Griffin Show should pretty much seal it for him as long as he can prevent them from flat out stealing it.

Really it just comes down to whether the Dems can steal it or not.

>>128280432
can you name something he's accomplished besides setting up the stock market bubble to pop like it's done in the first year of every presidential term in the last 30 years save for Bill Clinton?

>>128277777
checked

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>>128280744
So you admit Trump is another kike puppet?

BUT BUT HE WAS DIFFERENT

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>>128280432
>everything else he's accomplished?

Yeah all those things like....

bombing Syria

and money to Saudi Arabia!

>>128270017
It all depends on securing his base at home. Foreign policy matters little, he has to make sure the voter base that elected him stays loyal. That means lowering unemployment. A man is likely to reelect a president who promised him a job and delivered him one. He must under no circumstances sell out - easier said than done. Trump won by promising change and not being an establishment candidate, an must stay true to that if he doesn't want his voters to feel cheated.

>>128270898
If you can't at least admit Trump is a narcissist, you're a sheep. Most of the media stories about him are lies but that one comes from simple observation of his whole life.

>>128281148
kys retard

>>128281209
Didn't this guy drop the mother of all bombs on ISIS?

>>128282001
If you had ever lived or worked with a narcissist, you'd know how blatantly wrong you are. Trump isn't a narcissist.

>>128272177
They would have just as big of a list had he not committed any of his "sins". They hate Trump because he spoiled their party by being an outsider who was opposed to their agenda.

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>>128280432

> everything else he's accomplished?

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>>128282280
>kys retard

Good reply faggatron

>>128283432
you're a fucking troll who can't read

ergo fucking kys retard

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>>128283580
GLOP GLOP THANK YOU MASTER

>>128270017
Not unless the democrats run someone who appeals to more than just a vocal minority. If they can get someone pro-labor who will help raise the minimum wage while still being able to get corporate money, Trump will be out, as a lot of people voted for him based on hatred for Clinton.

>>128276636
>walls don't work
Still on it eh? You're hopeless.

>>128278927
This. Idk how they think pretending to be centrist, while continuing to spew liberal talking points, is fooling anyone.

It's almost as bad as
>hai guyz I voted for Trump but he's Drumpf naow.

>>128270017
Here's how it goes.
If he can get through 4 years without a major happening for americans. If the market keeps going up. If the left keeps outing themselves as literal communists.

If all of what's' happening now keeps happening, people are going to start to like him. 2020 can be won. Especially since the left will probably double down on hillary who refuses to die.

>>128280031
Not if he clears the voting rolls and deports the illegals that have every incentive to vote if nobody would try to stop them.

>>128270017
They completely dropped the ball in stopping Trump, they'll probably underestimate him and figure there's no way anyone would vote for him after bashing him for 4 years and calling his every move a disaster and saying how all his policies have only hurt his voter base.

>>128286822
Nah, they probably won't be that careless again. If they really want him out, they will run someone with a better platform than "I have a vagina."

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>people actually think there's going to BE a 2020 at this rate

Trump... is the real crisis of the planet... it's only a matter of time before Barron Trump is ruling through fear where his father ruled through money...

>>128270017
I'll vote for him again if he decides to run for a 2nd term. I remember when people thought George W Bush wouldn't get a 2nd term after the media threw a huge fit over him but he still got it.

>>128272594
Protip: there won't be a republic primary, moron.

>>128289652
I still remember how mad people were back then, KEK. Especially in Europe.

>>128270017
He will win another term shill.

>>128270017
Trump sucks, but i can't even imagine somebody to run in the democratic party.
They will probably come with another old corrupt retarded like jew biden or something.
Since there is no option, Drumf will win

Economy up, illegal immigration WAY down.

Trump already has 2020 locked up.

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>>128270017
im 36 years old and ive never voted

>>128270017

you never know.

>>128273517
Angry homo detected.

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>>128289652
>Got us into a kike war against Iraq
>People think he was qualified to stay president

>>128270017
hillary is the best dems have to offer

so yeah

it most likely is gonna be HRC v Trump 2020 and Trump will squeek another close victory.

>>128270017
There's about a 90% chance Democrats will run a total moron like Warren, so the odds are in his favor.

A deep recession is about the only thing that sinks an incumbent, or some bizarre 3rd party stealing 20% of the vote.

>>128275213
>Warren
If Warren or Sanders run, they won't pass the primary. Because Hillary is running again 99%

She smoked Bernie by 4mil votes (25% margin), there just aren't that many TYT watching "progressives"

>>128270017
Sweeping Democrat majority. I'll stick a knife up my pooper and live stream it if we have a Republican President next term.

>>128273517
have you tried electro-convulsive therapy? The results may shock you

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Incumbency is THE GREATEST political advantage a person can have. This is why the opposition is aggressively pushing anti-Trump rhetoric.

Its a gamble for them though. Push too hard and you turn people away; just like what happened in 2016.

Good thing for our side the left doesn't know when to quit.

Trump will win 2020.

>>128270017
if he actually didn't want him in there, he wouldn't get in. The sham is in thinking voting changes anything. With that said, in the unlikely event Gabbard gets the DNC nomination in 2020 i'll vote for her for the hell of it. Ready for this system to collapse.

>>128299579
if they*

>>128270017
The Democrats are still blaming Russia, sexism, and racism for their embarrassing loss, they have zero chance against any established Republican in 2020. Who the fuck are they going to run?

Bernie and Biden are old as fuck, doubt they'd run. If Clinton decides to run again thats an automatic win for the Republicans. Who else? Osoff? The Rock? The Democrats are fucked.

>>128299843

Mark Cuban

>>128270017
Dem party is permanently crippled so it'll really just be a 3-way race between trump and 2 other republicans who might aim to please a bit more than he has, with maybe one of those meme tertiary parties getting 15% of the vote as they swallow up some quasi-conservative liberal voter base adding even more insult to the dem party's injury.

expect a white nationalist racist self-hating america-loving jew on the ticket by 2028

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>>128272248
>Throw someone that actually offers light at the end of the tunnel for blue collar workers in as the Dem nominee, and OH, PA, and MI all instantly flip blue. IN and WI as well, probably.

I get why you'd think this, but you're wrong. The working class has spent the last two decades since the 90s turning away from the Democrats, and now that politics has become incredibly tribal since Obama was elected and white identity politics are coming into play -- the Dems have no chance.

What Democrat can win the Rust Belt? Joe "It's a good thing when white people will become the minority" Biden? Bernie Sanders, a communist? A coastal liberal like Warren who will alienate all voters in rural areas?

The new political paradigm is rural vs. urban. Under this system, it's near impossible for Democrats to win outside of cities and thus the Rust Belt is all but lost for them.

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>>128300338
Republicans would never run against Trump, he still has around 80% of approval from Republicans.

His success in the next election is very dependent on keeping the promises he made with blue collar workers in Michigan and Pennsylvania.

>>128300162
he supports trump autist

>>128270017
If he barely won the first time, and his approval is incredibly low already surely hje's got no chance.

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>>128270017

>>128273423
>t. Free thinker who gets his beliefs from what his friends share on goybook

>>128300615
she's about to have to go back

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>>128301855
What? Who? Clinton?

Clinton won't run again, they asked her at the talk she gave last week and she gave a hard "no."

>>128277251
Automation will still take a while. He is preventing throwing the baby from the bath water. Go to a fucking factory, there are still plenty people working there, even if its less than before. It will still take at least 20 years to automate. Stop screaming its over already because that simply isn't true.

>>128270017
Since Trump won his first term, it's far more likely he'll win for the second term. Incumbent presidents have an inherent advantage in elections. Not to mention the fact that, personally, I believe more people will vote Trump in 2020 because it's slightly more politically correct now. The dems are going to make an effort to turn out for the 2020 election, though, so it's not going to be an easy victory. They won't make the same blunder they made last election

>>128270319
>being a reference point for leadership down the road.
This, people are going to think about different things moving forward. This also helped anyone with right leaning beliefs in the sense that they generally will now be able to see the elitist/globalist candidate. What needs to also be done is choosing wisely in local elections.

But seriously, we can't let him get the nuclear codes.

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>>128304150
>>128304150
>>128304150

YOUTUBE IS TRYING TO INFLUENCE THE BRITISH GENERAL ELECTION. DISLIKE AND FLAG THEIR VIDEO.

>>128274689
>You can't meaningfully say that in only 140 characters.

"The Paris agreement was empty symbolism and Obama's actions were without legislative approval. 100% unconstitutional! AMERICA FIRST!"

That's 133 characters.

>>128270017
He's got my vote.

>>128272177
>Attacking the IC

They fired the first shot. What motive would he have to attack them absent self-defense? I haven't seen anybody answer this simple question satisfactorily.

>Stop tweeting and shut the hell up.

That's precisely what (((they))) want him to do, because his tweets are one of the few ways that he can bypass their media structures.

The way I see it, the only path the DNC has to victory is to run a nigger or a spic in 2020. However, the events of the past year have shown that the DNC establishment is so stupid that they'll probably pull a Muslim from out of somewhere to run in 2020 and end up getting creamed.

>>128270017
As of now I don't think he can lose
Democrats and Republicans have about 25% party id versus 44% independents. As of now the Democrat and Republicans parties are dying . Trump supporters are really republican so the dems have to win over his people. Instead they are alienating all of his supporters. They only way it breaks is if Republicans and Trumpsters start infighting.

>>128307634
Well they got angry because he said during the campaign "these are same people that said how Saddam had weapons of mass destruction". I don't think it's a good idea to provoke them but they shouldn't have that much power.

He needs to say stuff that makes sense instead slamming the media every day.

>>128307892
I don't think anyone will fall for this anymore because of Obama

>>128274392
>Gowdy slides into office after him and narrowly wins reelection

I can't see Gowdy being president. As president, you not only have to put up with tons of bullshit, but you have to constantly spew bullshit and talk out of both sides of your mouth just to get through the day.

I can't see Godwy being comfortable doing either of those. Gowdy would make a godly Dictator, but a bad President.

35/65

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>>128281148
>dropped out of TPP and the Paris Accord
>threatened Nato and Nafta
>said he could break the big banks


>kike puppet

No wall No second term. Simple

>>128270017

Honestly I think he'll resign because of Barron.

President Pence by November. Check 'em.

>>128270017
There is absolutely zero chance. If Trump wins a second term, I'll shoot myself in the head on livestream.

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>>128270484
Seconded. Have a Polk.

>>128270017

you should really pay attention to Hillary's rants. She claims the DNC is bankrupt without the Clintons.

She's basically calling out the DNC for not being white enough.

Obama's 8 years decimated their white base, alienated it. They have a real lack of new blood.

Hillary is lashing out at the DNC hard right now. She thinks they're all idiots over there.

>>128270017

You can't underestimate the Democrats or get too cocky.

The Economy can always fuck over Trump like it did Bush. If the economy gets bad, the Democrats could run an empty sock like Obama and win without effort.

If times stay moderately the same or get better, Democrats don't have a chance... specially with how their platform is right now.

The gave the vast majority of white social liberals what they wanted, LBGT stuff. They gave up the hen house. Blacks got their black president and many were disappointed.

The Democrats don't really have something to bring their diverse factions together anymore. No one but the hardcore affluent white snowflakes are Muslim apologists.

Unlock Europe, there are few lower class Muslim immigrants. Mexicans don't care about Muslim refugees, they're worried about getting deported and increasing Mexican immigration.


Democrats are like a sailing ship with a broken mast, dead in the water.