DNA GENETICS THREAD

>>128267293
forgot text, this actually proofs our history.
>Vanir visir, vanir eru visir!
We're a mix of two people here, vanir/proto germs and æsir, indos. Our language is indo, but we have another one before Óðinn and co came sometimes before your jesus guy

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>>128266337
>All these African and Asian midgets on my peninsula
I hope the multiverse theory is real,and there is a universe where we did not fail.

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>>128267966
if you want to talk about Native We Wuz then why stop there, lets go to the neanderthals

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>>128267966
>my peninsula

kek

>>128269111
Why not my African friend,is there something wrong with neanderthals?

>>128267966
why are albanians and serbs in my countr always such manlets? I mean do you all export to your manlets here so your average height is bigger?

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>>128271731
Albos are naturally manlets,as you can most of South Serbia is just Serbinized Albos.Let's not forget as the importer you chose what you get,and as your government loves everything that is brown and Arabic,what do you think you chose more?

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>>128272091
You realize those are late-age mutations brought by the fact you lost 30% of the male population after WW1, and there's plenty of records that show you of the same average height as everyone else, right?

>>128272091
how the fuck can one country be so tall ,and its neighbor be the king of manlets?

>>128272433
Considering that is also the average height of France, Italy, Spain and Romania it may have something to do with Latin.

>>128272433
One are protobalkanites and the others Slavs

Reminder: everything except E1b1b1a1 is nigger-tier

>>128269111 (checked)
wut they were bigger than us today?
I must admit I'm not knee deep in this

I know we were smaller in the old, 1.80 was tall. With exceptions of giants towering 2.30+
I don't got link, found in grave in the UK, from here. Prolly a place called Stryn, where the Flo family(soccer players) all are from

>>128272243
Yes,we have about the with 182 cm as average height,we are about the same as Croatia at 180,Bosnia at 184.9 and Monte Negro at 183 cm we are indeed same as anybody else.
But considering that Croatia,Bosnia and Monte Negro did not lose 30% of their population,i highly doubt it is a late age mutation.

>>128272433
Because Slavs where always described tall since like the 7th century,and Meds?Not so much.

>>128272840
How is bosnia so tall if you claim they're mixed. Original Turks are very short

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>>128272820
t. J2 kike

I've got Neanderthal DNA. At least I know I'm not sub Saharan African.

>>128272820
t. albozerg nigger

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>>128267966
>my peninsula

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>>128266337
Mfw finland is correct in this map.

>>128273017
Who claims they are mixed?They are more pure than Croatia,with Croatia being 10% E1b and 6% J2,and Bosnia being 9% E1b and 5% J2.

>>128273017
They are not mixed. Just adopted islam.

>>128273177
Everyone on this board calls them turks and non white

R1b master race

>>128273241
>This board
>Actually using facts
Lol.As for the 90's it was because they where Muslim,not because they are genetically Turks.

>>128273259
>R1b
Gone. Accept your I2A2 masters.

>>128266337
>>128267293

how come only part of the balkans and the north has original european composition?
>inb4 gypsies
genetics don't lie, you ahmedian mongrels

>>128266337
Greece and Italy have a lot of manlets. possibly mean and muscled but still manlets.

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>>128273241
They are not cockroaches, they are Serbs that adopted islam.

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>>128273812
>Serbs that adopted islam.
worst kind of cockroaches

>>128271731
Usually poor people from poor villages

>>128272091
Hitler, Napoleon were not tall. Nothing wrong with being 1.70. Also manlet is less 1.65.
But i'm speaking with a serb. You don't care about facts.

>>128273893
Both Napoleon and Hitler were average for their country. Anything else is the victor's propaganda.

>>128273241
Because they are muslims. Only retarded people are religious, and stupid retards are muslim.

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>>128273812
They are not Serbs,only and idiot would actually believe this.Changing religion does not automatically change your nationality.

>>128273893
Both lost,last time i checked.

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>>128274075
>Only retarded people are religious
*tips*

This sounds faggy, but here goes: AMA you want to know, I know a lot about genetics and anthropology.

>>128273694
Simple, people wandered. Romans caused a shitfest. That's why the historical Óðinn came, we knew he had wast properties in Turkey, but not exactly where he came from. Heyerdahl tried to find the location, and was onto it, he found a grave, he thought it was southern Russia.

Also Njörður, who gave this country it's name, sailing north from Finland to the south taking all. When he met Óðinn he had seat in your country, this was some 2k+ years ago.

Njörður was vanic, that's proto germ
Óðinn and the æsir were indos, it's said that they brought the tongue, which also checks out. So you too were a part of this

Óðinn saw the roman threat and came here to build a strong people, to destroy Rome, which happened.

>>128274245
why does only part of the balkans and the north retain original proto-european haplogroups?

>>128274284
I-E languages are only an indication of ancestry - using that line of thinking, Magyars would be Chinks.

>>128273152
You seem to share DNA with both the Kvens and the Samis

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>>128274312
i'll look into that, but if it is indeed more than lore, that would be amazing

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>>128274245
The origins of the Albanians. The total albanian population is 7-10 million. Their origins are a mystery and because of the politics of the balkan region there is a lot of propaganda and disinfo from all sides. They are also highly neglected in anthropology and genetics still.

There are probably a lot of discoveries and new find to be made by researching them (if you want your name to be in the books).

>>128266337
R1a empire when?

>>128274080
You seem knowledgeable about balkans. Who exactly are bosnians and do they deserve to have their own country?

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>>128274342
This is one of the more complicated questions actually, because there's a debate as to whether the I2 was already in the Balkans when the S. Slavs arrived, or if it was brought to the Balkans by the S. Slavs. There's very low I2 subclade diversity in the Balkans, suggesting that is was brought more recently, so I'm leaning toward that hypothesis, but it's unclear. Anyhow, the SE of the Balkans is obviously more Neolithic and less native to Europe due to it's proximity to Anatolia, and the rest of the non-I2 haplogroups seem to come from Slavic incursions from the NE (much of the R1a that seems Slavic is actually pre-Slavic though, brought by tribes that were later absorbed by the Slavs such as the Scythians). There was once a decent R1b presence in the Balkans (as phenotypically attested to by the once common red hair in the Balkans), but this has practically disappeared now for whatever reason (probably due to the males being killed by invading haplogroups (probably R1a), as is the Indo-European style of invasion), yet it still shows up in Gedrosian admixture (pic related)

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>>128274472
Ynglinga saga and the poem/song Ynglingatal.
Based Tjodolf. Sadly I only got nordic versions, it's the first saga in Heimskringla.
Google won't help you here either, you could try Swedish, our language has changed a lot since it was written. Or try old norse and see if it can handle it as icelandic, should work except poetic on.

http://www.heimskringla.no/wiki/Ynglinga_saga

>Saga = history
>Eddas = lore

The disclaimer is missing though

>>128273812
We are all the same. Fuck borders n religion n shit.

>>128266337
It's this stupid thread again.

>>128274555
I have no idea about the origins of Albanians, if I'm honest I don't care much for Albanian history so I haven't looked into it, though I'd look into J2b on the Eupedia page

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>>128273241
>>128273017
>>128272840
>>128272433

Because it's based on the arithmetic average.

>Bosnia has had only 14,000 people measured, 0,4%
>Serbia has had only 49,000 people measured, 0.7%
>Montenegro has had only 22,400 people measured, 3.2%
>Albania has had 704,000 people measured 23.7%

What does that mean?

>Albania has measured 14.3 times more people than Serbia
>Albania has measured 31,4 times more people than Montenegro
>Albania has measured 50.1 times more people than Bosnia

The arithmetic average is cyclic, it doesn't account for extremities. The more you throw at it the less you get out, the numbers will decrease gradually. It's why Bosnia, having had the smallest sample number is also the highest on the list. It's simple mathematics, because if you'll have a test on the entire population you'll get significantly different results.

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>>128274472
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.heimskringla.no%2Fwiki%2FYnglinga_saga

Here try, from icelandic actually. I don't have the time to verify it for you, but glazing it looks like it worked actually.

>>128274917
How mixed are modern day turks?

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>>128274355
i'm not claiming genetic ancestry based on language only. But its definitely something to be considered. Genes are less likely to be mixed between groups that dont speak the same language (unless rape). There is definitely a coupling that is not negligible.

>>128274959
>https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.heimskringla.no%2Fwiki%2FYnglinga_saga
>>128274795
thanks a lot, i'm off reading :)

>>128274615
They are just Croats who did not want to go into a personal union with Hungary,as their leader where all Catholics.The people themselves where Bogomil heretics,a form dual form of Christianity,meaning they worshiped both God and Satan as gods.So they made their own church,the Bosnian church,however their leaders could not convert to it,because they would always threatened to get Cursaded's by the Catholics.Because Islam actually believes that Jesus is a prophet,just not son of God,they made special rule for "People of the Book" where instead of converting you could actually pay Jizaya.However as you know,Atheist and Pagans,did not get same choice.It was convert or die for them.As Bogomils,Considered Pagans by the Islam,they have converted.
>Why do they deserve their own nation
Because they actually mind their own shit,and are the least subhuman people from Bosnia.Anything else is just propaganda.

>>128274959
total jibberish lol, try swedish Romanian up there, or danish.

>>128275063
romanian for is - Este
you're all aromanians kek

>>128274917
more than 30% of albanians that have done the YDNA show up as EV13 tho. If i recall correctly there is a substantial EV13 in england also from Roman Empire migrations. You should care for that reason alone

>>128275063
Languages tend to accurately depict the movement of tribes, but tribes can often subjugate peoples that later on turn out to become the majority. Again, think about Hungarians - they're not Mongoloids! Likewise, you will have very little original Indo-European ancestry.

i1-l759 reporting in

>>128274947
Yes,and Serbia measured people from Novi Sad,a I2a/R1a,place instead of Central Serbia,I2a predominant,while Albania,only has Ghegs,who are tall.So the more you measure in Serbia,the taller you would get,not shorter.

>>128275249
That EV13 is clearly Neolithic in origin, no mystery there.

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>>128274917
Fun fact: the first British Christian saint is Saint Alban.
Ancient name of Britain was Albion.

>>128275307
Aka non-Aryan subhuman hunter-gatherers, much inferior to BASED R1a Afghans

>>128275220
I thought it came from Latin but it's actually from indo-european estsi

>>128274917
It is actually a mystery, they speak indo. But the genes they don't lie. So this is all very exciting.
Albo actually have some sim with anglo

Rusty
Ju est or something, ah I don't remember other than the swears. Pidhi, Karin etc. lol

>>128275432
Never thought of that, interesting to see that depiction keeps the Greek ideal

>>128275449
my dna line leads directly to King Gaut/Queen Snotra, his father is Odin.

I beg to differ.

>>128275252
>Likewise, you will have very little original Indo-European ancestry.

This is hilarious. You must be a mediocre scientist. You haven't even studied any Albanian populations except from the memes you've consumed on 4chan and are assuming all sorts of extravagant and baseless things. Prove it. Buy me a testing Kit

>>128275220
>>128275475
Ek em
Þú ert
Hann, Hunn, Þat es/er
Við erum
...

Anglos? :)

>>128275432

t. albanian diaspora

Albion has nothing to do with Albanian.

Else, I could pretty much claim Serbs are decendents of Nordic Germanic tribe named Sorbs.

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>>128275580
Are you under the delusion that somehow Albanians are the refuge of the once mighty Aryan race? And not, I don't know, LITERALLY DUMBER THAN US NIGGERS (av. IQ = 85)!!!

haplogroup G is the scientific proof that Georgians are of the ancient high elven bloodline

everyone else are men of darkness

>>128275668
Sorbs are Slavic,and this is an actual theory.

>>128275752
Sorbs are certainly Slavic in origin, I can hardly see there being much of a debate on this one.

>>128275624
i always knew we were brothers kek

>>128275668
>Else, I could pretty much claim Serbs are decendents of Nordic Germanic tribe named Sorbs.
we actually are but sorbs got germanized over the centuries living with germans, although studies show I2a peaking in the region where they still live

>>128275752
So we wuz Aryanz n shiet ?

>>128275252
No not always, like we today back on the shitrock we speak about 40% dutch, dk and se have about the same number I guess. It was due too the Hansa, and that was mainly trading. Like how all languages today are culturally dominated by english and becoming more and more anglofied into

>But yes, what you say can often happen too, as I said up there with the æsir

>>128275322
That's arguable, however Bosnia is a I2a predominant and still ended up highest because of the lowest samples, so i don't really find your words fully believable.

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>>128275668
Well that is one of the actual theories of the origins of the Serbs though?

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>>128275752
That said most East Germans have been SLAV'D too *squats internally*

Next time an Ost-Deutsche calls you subhuman, show them this, and induce an existential crisis.

>>128275928
>that pic
so you wuz greeks n shiet?

>>128275834
You are vanic down there in the balkans, at some point the DNA changed, so two Vanic/germanic groups.

I'm not genetic man, I'm a dif scientist, puters ofc. Very interesting, and with AI in the future we will be able to recreate old languages and movement of people too

>>128275851
did you know byzantium was called romania for a bit?
WE WUZ KANGS

>>128275928
Culturally slavicized thracians and illyrians.

>>128275859
You are being retarded on purpose,yes?Sorbs are Western Slavs,and there are 2 theories on the migration of Serbs.One is Dual migration,White Serbia is in Ukraine,and both Sorbs and Serbs migrated from that palace,other is White Serbia is an Sorbian duchy in Samo empire,It's ruler Derman.
The second theory was not made up by a Serb,but by a German,who claims that the Unknown Archont is the son of Dervan.

>>128275729
Again this meme map? The Author himself wrote that these aren't based on IQ tests but on PISA tests, and even then doesn't hold up because the absolutely lowest score was held by Macedonia.

>>128275729
Yeah you have just exposed yourself as a pure larper now. These IQ tests are EXTRAPOLATED from schooling results/exams. That means that no actual IQ tests were performed in the majority of the countries listed in the map. This has been one of the biggest critiques of Lynn. If the state has a shitty schooling system then everyone will magically have a low IQ in these tests.

1
>http://racialreality.blogspot.com/2010/06/underperformance-of-poor-white-british.html

2
>http://racialreality.blogspot.com/search/label/Intelligence

I don't know any romanian, but my best friend is an albo and I know tons of albos and also serbs, my brother is married to one.... so....
Yeah caught between that mess lol. Here they just avoid each other, still you know sore from the war. No warings or fuckery here. Both based people. Very good food too

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>>128267293
so Romanians are unironically related to nords

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>>128275499
>Greek ideal
can you even read your language?
>>128275668
>has nothing to do
read again, take your time.

>>128276019
Germans have their own R1a subclade,and if anything it is the other way around,the Slavs in Eastern Germany got German'd.

>>128276211
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gxrd54tfeY

LONG LIVE ALBANIA, REFUGE OF THE ARYAN RACE!!!

>>128276331
Kinda, it's interesting that before anthropologists had DNA tests, they managed to link Dinarics with Nordics (both Y DNA I in decent numbers)

>>128276295
this was supposed to be a reply to something lol, I shall never drink again

>>128276374
Paki, you realize Greeks are an Aryan people right?

>>128276295
>. Here they just avoid each other,
yup sounds right

>>128267293

So, we wuz nords ?

>>128276331
Yes
>>128267493
>>128267293
This one was new too me, thanks based albo
>>128266337

>>128275729

How could anyone take this map seriously?

Albanians and Bosnians are mostly the same people as their neighbors but they score considerably less? How is that possible?

Clearly their sample choices were retarded or purposefully biased towards muslim Europeans

>>128276331
>tfw historians telling us there is a connection between scandinavians and dacians weren't lying
WE

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>>128276374
Stop LARPing as "someone who knows a lot about genetics and anthropology" when your infact some aspergers teenager loser

>>128276361
They do, but you're still wrong.

West Slavic R1a subclade:

http://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup-R1a-M458.png

East Slavic R1a subclade:

http://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup-R1a-Y93.png

Neither is the same as the Germanic R1a-Z283/4

>>128276374
thats the results you get when onyl the intelligent people can afford internet

>>128276374
>LONG LIVE ALBANIA, REFUGE OF THE ARYAN RACE!!!
say what you want about the shqiptar, but they are the longest continuosly living Indoeuropean ethnic group - have been living on the same soil for at least 4000 years. only Lithuanians, among other aryans, can claim that long established presence in the same locale

>>128276573
yeah, it's not ALL from the goths.
But who knows we wandered up I assume as your lands are far better than our barren ones.

>>128276667
>tfw daniel roxim is still a larping faggot
but WE WUZ VIKINGS N SHIET

>>128276655
Nah, it's probably just dysgenics from Islam, I doubt he fixed it

>>128276691
Britain built what was then modern day Rome, what does Albania have to its name? Not even that, but WHO does Albania have to its name, I can't think of anybody

>>128274080
Cant believe someone wrote this kek

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Stop using Aryan for indo-European faggots

>>128276667
The Dacian Scandinavian link has nothing to do with Y DNA I though, they just both retained the I-E type relatively purely.

>>128276719
>Lithuanians
That is OLD, the oldest indo language.
My Gods that language is hard, 18 causes vs 4 in on/icelandic and german.

I lived there briefly never learned it, was there to short of a time. But they are the oldest language at least.
>Often when a language is very old, it's very complicated

>>128274245
Which Europid group is the most progressive in your opinion?

>>128276940
Aryans are the subset of Indo-Europeans who went SE toward South Asia.

>>128275915
Problem is you can prove they ended up Tallest,because they had the least samples,can you now?

>>128276972
i find that amazing considering our positioning in between the crossroads of continents and great empires

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>>128276084
>Culturally slavicized Illyrians and Thracian
No we are not,I2a expanded 1900 years ago,Illyricum existed since 27 BC.

>>128277106
Yeah, it's no the name for all the indo-Europeans, only specific ones.

>>128275154
someone from serbia actually knows about the bosnian church
kudos to you

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>>128276896
Ptolemy referred to where Albanians still live to this day as where the Albanoi live.

https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Albanoi

As for notable albanians. Just because your pea sized brain doesn't know anything about them does not mean they do not exist.

Its simply this: You're a dumb fuck.

>>128276994
check this nordbro
https://books.google.ro/books?id=-wZYqf3G45cC&pg=PA11&lpg=PA11&dq=vanic+tribe&source=bl&ots=1_TSQIld5U&sig=UoV4hYq3J299v3BcdNkIaqRsZ3o&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjFw4Pp7qHUAhUhMJoKHfeHAfkQ6AEIVDAJ#v=onepage&q=vanic%20tribe&f=false

>>128277042
Probably Hallstatt Nordid tbqh

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Baltic peoples are the most Indo-European

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Good commentary on the latest studies here:
http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/

>>128276710
Ok,but those lands where held by Slavs before Germans,so it stills means the Slavs got German'd and not the other way around.We know a for a fact that the Sorbs lost a war against Saxons.

>>128277372
The data isn't that great for that, but I wouldn't be surprised.

>>128276766

Explains why my grandmas whole family was blonde and blue eyed and knew german lmao.

Only when she had a daughter with a montenegrin did we start having hazel eyes.

Now I'm golden dark/light brown with hazel eyes and 2m height.

Ebin.

>>128277276
Everyone knows about the Bosnian church,they are just pretending to be retarded on purpose or had Bosnians Serb refugees as History teachers,who are as a rule of thumb always salty about the 90's.

>>128277472
Why not?

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>>128276972
STOP EMBARRASSING YOURSELF

>>128277602
I can't remember why, but Maciamo from Eupedia wasn't too hot on it.

>>128277608
Lol it doesn't that though, only an idiot would think I-E language is indicated by Y DNA I. And Varg is literally fucking retarded, he thinks brown eyes are a sign of African admixture.

>>128276809
If you actually knew how Bosnian muslims act lol
At least 95% of "muslims" here do not follow everything nor are radical. You'd actually knew if you sat with one. Everyone around here mostly drinks , has premartial sex and has tolerance to other religions. If you exclude some retarded people that belong to every side. The thing is , you can believe in whatever the fuck you want and believe me the last thing muslims in Bosnia want is sharia law. There are 5% of radicals in small villages that are fucked in the head with their ideology

>>128272822
we genocided the superior neanderthals through unconscionable breeding

>>128277859
Well then, you explain why Croatians have an IQ over 10 points higher.

>>128277312
Interesting, another anon here pointed out that indian Prya or how you spell it, share roots with Freyja. It meant beautiful or something like that. I sadly don't remember.

Freyja was a dise though, you had 12 (moons in a year) demi gods if you will and she was one of three female ones. She was also the last to live, the historical one, after your Jesus guy lived even. She and Frey are brothers and both lived still then. She was responsible for the blots with the others. Óðinn he is always out traveling the one ruler, einherjar, god.

>>128272822
They were much, much sturdier but slightly shorter. Also, humans used to be taller before farming, we were actually shorter than in prehistory until something crazy like the 19th or 20th century.

>>128277507
Not that im surprised by the fact you wrote it but I get it when you say that people are pretending to be retarded. Also im not surprised when I see that the people think that changing the religion means changing the nationality. Kinda weird topic that is mostly guided by propaganda.

>>128278038
Exactly very little I-E ancestry.

>>128278038
>Yamnaya
What's that?

>>128278038
Interesting that Spain and Tuscany have literally 0 WHG, to me that makes no sense,

Jesus fuck i never thought i would see such an elevated discussion on this animu basket weaving site.....

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>>128277372
>Steppe admixture

>>128277985
It turns out, we are them. In our faith we take the ice age into account, and we believe that after the next ice age we will evolve again.

The future has a lot to offer us on this history, the russians and choinamen are researching as hell on this matter. As I understand the west is cucked on the matter.

A baby and even a dog can tell you that a nigger is not the same as us. And there is nothing wrong with that

>>128278226
Culture of the Indo-European homeland

>>128278057
the agricultural lifestyle fucked humanity big time, people got shorter and had more dental problems with all the consequences

>>128278033
Didnt someone already state that this "iq test" has fallacies (I hope i spelled it correctly lol)
If you actually judge by this fact , how come so many doctors(not nurses) engineers and others leave the balkan countries and go to western countries where people actually admire their work? I may have given a bad example but trust me the religion has nothing to do with this specially where people dont practice it that much. You wouldnt believe how Bosnian mussies actually dislike sharia law and radical ways of practicing a religion.

>>128278057
potatoes we were taught at school :)

what I meant to that they were shorter but more sturdy built as you say here

>>128275128
I don't think translating from Icelandic will go very well. Swedish has a very similar sentence structure and parallel grammar to English, and Norwegian is similar. I think they'd end up more legible.

>>128277663
Maciamo just can't handle the fact that the data shows he's a btfo wog

>>128278336
>>128278226
Hes bullshitting. Hes a LARPer dumb fuck

>https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Yamna_culture

>>128277372
Not sure about genes, but our language is considered "archaic" for Indo Europeans.

>>128278480
You can train these tests, take a couple first then go and take one. And if you ie don't know simple Newtonian physics and maths you're fucked. They are flawed.

Not so many points but I did a test first got 142, then I did some tests at home and got 147.

>>128278038
I kam disa pyetje

Is there any genetic difference between Ghegs and Tosks, and for that matter Labs (people from Laberia)?

Would you say Greeks came from Albanians or Tuscans? What are your thoughts on the relationship between Greeks, Albanians and Tuscans? Also Tuscan is pronounced similar to Tosk-an

>>128278033
Two reasons for this.
First is that the test ,has to little samples,and Balkans have turbulent population,it just get bad Samples.There used to be Tests that put Croatia around 90's as well.

The other is of course that IQ also depends on the quality of education(the more you learn,the more your Brain gets practice),and Croatia,being a member of the EU,has simply reformed their education to be much better.As the tests which put Croatia at around 90 and 93 are the older ones,while new ones puts them at a level of Western Countries.

>>128278663
Laba Vakaras! We were speaking about you.
Hey bend to be for them in all cases, so they see.

>>128275729
I'm not defending a score of 82-84, but don't equate it to niggers. That's a US nigger, a quarter white breed that performs almost as well compared to full niggers and whites do compared to US niggers. Actual full-blood niggers score around 70 in most countries. Or lower.

>>128278707
It's simply not true that there's large or even medium variability in IQ scores with practice.

>>128278707
Depends of course where you do the test. Mensa's online test seems good. In all reality, to get a definite answer you have to an IQ test administered by a trained psychologist and it can take over an hour.

Also in regards to what the Bosnian said IQ is a great measure of intelligence.

>>128278802
Croatia joined the EU in 2013...

>>128278838
>Hey bend to be for them in all cases, so they see.
What did he mean by this?

>>128278057
Most humans carry at least a little neanderthal DNA. There's one girl I saw who looks like the typical Neanderthal. She's very short, has a bigger skull, and has different looking hair.

As far as guys go, they're called manlets.

>>128278739
>I kam disa pyetje
I can this talk, no fucking way?
pyetje - prate
Kam - can

am I a retard or da linguist now?

>>128278907
The original conqueror race

>>128277859
I agree that the Brit you responded to is an underage moron who fell for Serb memes. Which is like being conned by a gypsy.

However,

> Everyone around here mostly drinks , has premartial sex and has tolerance to other religions.
You make it sound like it's a good thing?

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>>128278226

>>128278969
And the new Test are from 2016,and the EU has standards that you have to fulfill.Or maybe,they have just decided to reform the education system without the push of the EU.

>>128278969
And the IQ data is from 2002, you ignorant fuck

>>128278998
c'mon
I am
You are

with the causes and all the bending, there surely must be some place to copy pasta it from? I'm not asking you to write a blog because it's fucking much

>>128279018
"I kam disa pytje" means "I have some questions"

Pyetje = Questions
Disa = Some
I Kam = I have

>>128279018
It translates into 'I have some questions'.
Pyetje is pronounced differently from prate. So it seems.

Kam means to have.

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http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/05/26/142448
>The Bronze Age Sidon samples (Sidon_BA) overlap with present-day Levantines and were positioned between the ancient Levantines (Natufians/Neolithic) and ancient Iranians (Neolithic/Chalcolithic). The overlap between the Bronze Age and present-day Levantines suggests a degree of genetic continuity in the region. We explored this further by computing the statistic f4(Lebanese, present-day Near Easterner; Sidon_BA, Chimpanzee) using qpDstat 33 (with parameter f4mode: YES) and found Sidon_BA shared more alleles with the Lebanese than with most other present-day Levantines (Figure S6), supporting local population continuity as observed in Sidon’s archaeological records. When we substituted present-day Near Easterners with a panel of 150 present-day populations available in the Human Origins dataset, we found only Sardinians and Italian_North shared significantly more alleles with Sidon_BA compared with the Lebanese (Figure S7).

>When we substituted present-day Near Easterners with a panel of 150 present-day populations available in the Human Origins dataset, we found only Sardinians and Italian_North shared significantly more alleles with Sidon_BA compared with the Lebanese (Figure S7).

WE

>>128266337
>>128267293
If you combine the british, french and iberian empires you cover most of the world. Is this the master race?

>>128276972
Tbh, when Europa was a frozen block, only Hispania, Balkan and the Carpathian basin were inhabitable.
That is where the pre-europeans lived.
Then the continent slowly melted down and it allowed them to spread out.

This is why historians argue that europeans were born here, in the Carpathian basin and Balkans
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Europe_(archaeology)
t. Maria Gimbutas

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>>128279049

>>128279217
It's funny when I speak Albanian or try to form complicated sentences I translate from English to Albanian on the fly

>>128279001
I don't think that's well-founded. It's so fucking long since we mixed with neanderthals, the admixture is pretty much constant withing populations. It's much more likely someone's just got a ton of HGH and a relatively weak chin, ending up looking like one, than it being due to neanderthal genes.

>>128278739

>Is there any genetic difference between Ghegs and Tosks, and for that matter Labs (people from Laberia)?

Yes there is, yet there is no good enough research done as of yet. But Phenotypically Tosks are shorter and slightly more swarthy / Mediterranean while Ghegs more Dinaric tall.

Its most likely that Albanians and Greeks and Tuscans share a common ancestor a long time ago, with albanians being very isolated for a long time.

>>128277255
Then how come Serbs and Romanians are so close, genetically, its almost inbreeding to fuck?

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>>128279267
>french
Nice surrendering you got there.

>>128279217
It's that phenomenon, the french-anglo, shut the door thing.
Still a bit sim
>I was supposed to learn albo, because my friend is learning anglo, and I can't be any less! :D
Sadly too much to do

>>128279018
Eshte cik me e veshtire sec mendon = Is a little more difficult than you think

But however the Latin and Albanian share a lot of words.

>>128279054
Hm , let me put it this way. People actually assume that muslims in Bosnia are islamic radicals. Not that I say that its a good thing but I mean not everyone practices the religion. Those who do actually pray 5 times a day dont mind their friends who drink. Basically sharia law and radicalisation isnt really our cup of tea (even tho there is at least 5% of those that live in small villages that NOBODY has entrance to, and if you manage to get there you either get killed or brainswashed) . Like I said , you can always find a buddy to drink beer with and chat no matter where you're from.

>>128277348
You're from the UK, are Hallstatt Nordid peoples common on the east coast of the isle?

>>128279497
It's the exact same thing with Albanian 'Muslims'.

>>128279399
How do you suppose we remained so 'isolated' given where we are located?

>>128273259
Yes we are mate

>haplogroups

you are all retards

>>128274245
Why do Basques have R1b haplogroup when they are no genetically Indo-European?

>>128279267
We all came from the same loin, at some point in time. Spamming this thread, but it's such an interesting field. And one should always know where one came from, also directly by names of ancestors as far as it is possible.

Next year I might go to a wedding in Kos, sliding, but that's going to be cool as fuck. 3 (not that again 3) days of celebration, like here in the old. So much for your trinity again

t. Heiðingi.

>>128273053
The majority of american niggers have neanderyhal DNA because slave owners bleached them so much

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>>128279412
Because the Slavs raided Byzantine across Danube for about 100 years before they settled,and since they where not Christianized i highly doubt they performed some sort of celibacy.And what do you know Danube is literally the border between Byzantine and those Slavs,so that the place they where settled at and would come back to after an raid.Also i was told by other Romanians that you have around 20% Slavic burrow words.This does not go back forth to Slavs,as we only have some Greek borrow words.

So how do i say this,ehm i think you got raped.Unless Dacians immigrated from Ukraine as well.Than they might be slight chance that We Iz Dacians.But i doubt it.

>>128279497
Why don't you just convert back to Paganism or Christianity?

>>128279806
they do have significant Yamnaya input though, even more than north Italians going from >>128278038

>>128279702
Didnt know about that, never met an albanian

>>128278504
Yeah, it took until potatoes when we had a really good crop for our environment.
>>128278345
Our having poor crops is likely a reason vikings were pretty tall. The best soil is down in Scania, one of the best for green peas but not so great for wheat and such. They probably relied much more on animal products than their contemporaries, with less energy dense and more protein rich crops overall.

>>128279399
>Tuscans
It sound a lot like Tosk. From Vlora going down the people in average are some cm shorter than the rest.

>>128279497
No, we know you are not like those shitskins, both you and the albos. Eat pork and chill.
The albos here they often have the bold eagle in their house and not that religious golden written; there is only one God, and Muhammad was his messenger stuff. Some have it but not my mates.

>>128279702
retreat into the mountains

>>128273017
Believing in alternate skydaddies doesn't change your genes.

>>128279986
have you ever thought about converting to another religion
>implying religions make sense

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>>128266337

Daily reminder that Finnish, Baltics & North Slavs are Bleached Mongoloids, White-Mongolian rape childs, because they have Mongol DNA (Haplogroup N).
>Haplogroup N is found all over the
Far East (China, Korea, Japan & Mongolia)
>Haplogroup N is found chiefly in north-eastern Europe, particularly
in Finland (61%), Lapland (53%), Estonia (34%), Latvia (38%), Lithuania (42%) and northern Russia (30%)
>, and to a lower extent also in
central Russia (15%), Belarus (10%), eastern Ukraine (9%), Sweden (7%) & Poland (4%).
>from Eupedia: www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_N1c_Y-DNA.shtml

>>128278707
One of the basic criteria for psychological tests is the score not changing if you administer the same test to the same person. IQ tests actually do a lot better here than even personality tests. It's probably the most robust measurement in psychology. The problem with most of the proxy tests for IQ (SAT, using school results, vocabulary) is that they are highly trainable. Much more so than IQ tests.

>>128272433
their country isnt tall, it's just one region in their country

our country is on average the tallest

>>128280236
> skydaddies
r/atheism is that way my friend

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>>128280371
no it isn't

>>128280227
>retreat into the mountains
This is true! Same here, the heathen customs etc were held longest up there in the mountains.

>>128277859
>So how do i say this,ehm i think you got raped.Unless Dacians immigrated from Ukraine as well.Than they might be slight chance that We Iz Dacians.But i doubt it.
Tbh, migrant invaders did not change the native makeup, some germans made a study comparing romanians from today to romanians from 2000 years ago and found we're 90% still the same
everything else being latin/germanic/slavic/greek admixture

Haplogroups are not the best way to find out the ancestry of a population

It is very curious Serbia, Romania, Montenegro, Bulgaria and some ethnic groups (aromanians, vlach) all cluster very close to each other

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>>128280351 >>128267604 >>128267293 >>128266930

Daily reminder that Finnish, Baltics & Russians are Bleached Mongoloids, White-Mongolian rape childs, because they have Mongol DNA (Haplogroup N).

>Haplogroup N is found all over the
Far East (China, Korea, Japan & Mongolia)
>Haplogroup N is found chiefly in north-eastern Europe, particularly
in Finland (61%), Lapland (53%), Estonia (34%), Latvia (38%), Lithuania (42%) and northern Russia (30%)
>, and to a lower extent also in
central Russia (15%), Belarus (10%), eastern Ukraine (9%), Sweden (7%) & Poland (4%).
>from Eupedia: www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_N1c_Y-DNA.shtml

>>128276354
>oldest recorded name is the greek name for it
>Greeks live right next door to balkans
>Albania (wonder who named them) sounds like the greek's name for England

>OMG ALBANIANS DISCOVERED AMERICA

More reasonable explanation is that the root word of the name given by greek explorers to the british isles has some shared etymology with the root for 'Albania'.

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>>128266337 >>128267604 >>128267293 >>128266930 >>128280351 >>128280561

Daily reminder that Finnish, Baltics & Russians are Bleached Mongoloids, White-Mongolian rape childs, because they have Mongol DNA (Haplogroup N).

>Haplogroup N is found all over the
Far East (China, Korea, Japan & Mongolia)
>Haplogroup N is found chiefly in north-eastern Europe, particularly
in Finland (61%), Lapland (53%), Estonia (34%), Latvia (38%), Lithuania (42%) and northern Russia (30%)
>, and to a lower extent also in
central Russia (15%), Belarus (10%), eastern Ukraine (9%), Sweden (7%) & Poland (4%).
>from Eupedia: www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_N1c_Y-DNA.shtml

Daily reminder that a mirror is all you need to know what you are.

>>128280474
those aren't countries

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>>128266337 >>128267604 >>128267293 >>128266930 >>128280351>>128280561 >>128280682

Daily reminder that Finnish, Baltics & Russians are Bleached Mongoloids, White-Mongolian rape childs, because they have Mongol DNA (Haplogroup N).

>Haplogroup N is found all over the
Far East (China, Korea, Japan & Mongolia)
>Haplogroup N is found chiefly in north-eastern Europe, particularly
in Finland (61%), Lapland (53%), Estonia (34%), Latvia (38%), Lithuania (42%) and northern Russia (30%)
>, and to a lower extent also in
central Russia (15%), Belarus (10%), eastern Ukraine (9%), Sweden (7%) & Poland (4%).
>from Eupedia: www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_N1c_Y-DNA.shtml

>>128280351
Sweden are Samis, Kvens and Finns.
You should really go visit part the baltics there, also Binland, and see how people actually look.
When I arrived in lt it was funny, people there looked so much like here, many of them. One day I was walking home, and I was sure as hell I spotted my uncle lol. So I stared and went towards him, he went all
>oy vey, who is this crazy person
When I got close enough, oh shit, that's not uncle anon

>>128280053
Haak Yamna test sucks, it's only based on few ancient populations, Eurogenes did a superior test on it.

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R8

>>128276019
What's wrong with Scotland?

>>128280213
Yeah , but those shitskins move to europe and only bring crime with em. As a result people think we're like niggers as well

>>128280809
Eurogenes did no test based on Yamnaya afaik, you are maybe confusing Yamnaya with ANE

>>128273017
Not mixing , just adopted a new religion

>>128277118
In fact, i can. You'll notice in the statistics that most if not all the countries that have a sizable population number don't even make it to 1.80. On the other hand, people who sent i few samples tend to be small.

Besides, would it be really hard to collect 15.000 tall people from Albania, measure them, get say 1.92 and tell others that's the average male height?

>>128280532
Well you are only like 30% Slavic by haplogroups and you had to ask.
Vlachs got Serbinazid on mass in Serbia,but i do believe they are E1b and J2.

>>128280321
paganism is no religion, you can LARP as pagan and not actually believe in Gods, that what many ancients did, some philosophers viewed it as allegories.

>>128280935
see >>128277372

>>128280821
got some scand in you, could be almost anywhere in the US. Though we reside in Minnesota (sorry about that) and ND, also Alaska. Alaska we kicked off the gold rush as our mines were depleted, and we had tons of expert miners that went there. Anchorage was founded by a norseman, who made a fortune up there.

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>>128280649
t. spiro

Are you implying Greeks invented the Albanian name and then called Britain?

>>128280983
But other countries are not Serbia,Croatia,Monte Negro and Bosnia,they are different countries,so this is not solid proof.
>Would it be really hard to collect 15k people from Albania
Come on now,the people measured in Serbia where just students kek,do you believe there is a conspiracy theory behind everything now?

>>128281185
how old is that stuff? Haak is based on actual steppe genes at least, which back then weren't even available

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>>128280855
>Yeah , but those shitskins move to europe and only bring crime with em. As a result people think we're like niggers as well

I know, and idiots are going to think it's the same just because you're "muslims", you are just not fanatic like those cousin fuckers in the ME and elsewhere. You are euros after all. Me and my albo friend discuss this a lot, the plebs are so stupid you know, so the danger is when they snap it goes out on everyone. I don't think that will happen though, but my friend is worried due too what he experienced down there.

>>128281121
what does LARP mean?
Also I didnt mean paganism , I know what it means. I meant christianity.
Now I ask you would you convert to another religion? People are lazy to discover about their religion and even lazier to discover about others.

>>128275432
Iberia was in the caucasus region during Roman times

guess the Spanish are the true caucasians

>>128281540
live action role play

You are trying way too hard to shill the idea that Albanians and Bosnians are not really Muslims and that they are friendly etc. It is so obvious that you are diaspora. I don't really care about either of those peoples, but it's still very interesting reading your posts.

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>>128281121
pagan means rural people, christcucks use it for anything not kike based. So by def Hinduism etc isn't a religion either then. Low quality bait

>>128281686
This was for >>128281498

>>128280770
>Bosnia and Herzegovina
Cry more manlet

>>128281892
like i said, not a country

>>128281979
>Self reported
montenegrin's are taller than you faggots

>>128281498
Nordic countries are mostly hit by immigrants which really makes me rage. Same thing about Britain, those fucking morons move there from their shithole and want sharia law. I mean why the fuck did you run away from sharia law just to establish it somewhere else? Its like me coming to your home and me making my own rules. I never got discriminated but for fucks sake somethimes I wonder...

>>128281186

Family came from Norway in the 1800s and settled in Wisconsin. The old family name is Narveson.

>>128281484
Don't know, Haak is based only on 3 population, Basques probably have some Yamna like admixture and they put it Yamna when it may no be directly from it.

>>128281540
I would LARP as a pagan, but there not much paganism here and don't know much about it.

how can you not know what LARP, are you new here?

>>128281715
Who cares about words, heathen then. it's not religion in modern sense, not saying anything negative about it.

>>128282034
you don't have to be so insecure, croatia
i'm sure your country will be relevant one day

>>128281686
hehe no, as I said I'm caught between the wood as we say here. As stated my brother has a serb wyfu, my best friend is an albino. I know tons from both camps though.

The serbs they came in yugo times, we were sister nations then you remember. Many guests workers, funny but you can't tell them a part really from us. Unlike popular belief not everyone is blonde and got blue eyes here, as stated we're a mix of two people.

Hehe nah you guys you fight a lot still, here as stated there are no problems. I understand what your views, since the warings and so. As the albos says here, nobody were in their right mind down there. As you are aware of the serbs was painted as tha bogeyman, but everyone were nuts. I blame the jews.

Ég mæl íslensku, the fish poster lol

>>128282046
Don't be silly. They aren't fleeing or seeking refuge. They want handouts.

>>128281686
What is your experience with us then?

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Celtic masterrace, get out Saxons

>>128282243
adding many serbs are blond ofc, my brother's wyfu is, she looks 100% norse

>>128282212
Don't care tbhq
My country has never been relevant neither it will be in the future
I'm just saying that you're not the tallest

>>128282243
That's interesting. Here the Yugs haven't done so well. A lot of them speaking nigger Swedish and hanging out with other diaspora like kurds, Iraqis etc. Don't do so well in school either, bit of crime as well.

>>128282282
I was trying to be ((politically correct)) :^)

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>>128266337
>he ismt r1berian
Kys desu

>>128282243
>We where sister nation then,you remember
What?

>>128281686
Well, it's true. For most of them, religion is simply a title. 95% of Albanian Muslims do not pray, they do not fast, they drink liquor, they do a lot of things that a Paki or Arab would deem Haram, and a lot of them even eat pork. They're as Balkan as it gets. I speak for mainland Albanians, Kosovar and Macedonian Albanians are different.

>>128282124
never heard about that acronym. Not new , but I was mostly on /b/ , but took interest in /pol/

>>128281484
Also forgot to mentioned, that Basques have newer subscale of R1b, so they most likely became R1b later, even maybe during our known history.

>>128280533
So what are sardinian in all of this?Iceman?

>>128280682
The N-haplogroup in finns etc. is far older than Ghengis whom didn't even conquer lands near Finland.

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lets keep this a DNA thread and not a Balkan shitstorm thread

>>128281686
So tell me if they are real muslims why they don't try to impose sharia and to islamify the rest but just don't care and instead prefer to get drunk with rakia?

IRISH MASTER RACE

>>128282374
there you got the thralls :)

>>128266337
>im going to make thread about haplogroups without having any understanding of what they actually mean.

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>>128266337
Daily reminder that we catalans are the master race of Iberia.

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>>128282651
that's not surprising, but it's still a subclade of the Celto-Iberian R1b, it's not a special unrelated R1b
it's pretty clear they got enriched

>>128276331
You're about as related as Western Europeans are to Indians

(Both R groups)

>>128282915
"Catslsns"
>>>/x/

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>>128282881
What about haplogroups do I not understand according to you?

IRISH MASTER RACE!!!!!!!!

>>128279250
>when the genetic anthropologists unwittingly confirm that the 'jews' of Europe are just a bunch of Italian gypsies that have been LARPing as biblical tribesmen for the past 2000 years

Sweet vindication. Now the world can finally begin the process of healing and permanent mass-deportations.

>>128282915
Can you retarded little seperatist tell me of that pie chart is on acerage individudl or total populations distribution of haplos?

>>128282447
>That's interesting. Here the Yugs haven't done so well. A lot of them speaking nigger Swedish and hanging out with other diaspora like kurds, Iraqis etc. Don't do so well in school either, bit of crime as well.

Yeah Sven, same in Germany too, a lot of problems there. During the war, they pulled a lot of shit to get shekels for warings, they did this all over the globe several documentaries about this. But they still behaved here... not I can't say this...

I don't understand it, I guess we don't take shit, and we did sat them in their place I must admit that. They tried some mafioso shit in the paper here when they came
>KNOCK FUCKING KNOCK
I was just a teenager and I was experiencing with drugs at the time. The guy had gone to the papers and said the following
>I'm so concerned about the kids doing amph here
While you know..... So that stopped fast.
No shit here at all and they are all integrated as fuck, working, studying acting like normal people. While in Germany in part they act up like yeah idiots.

Also you let this mafia shit slide, that's also your problem. You let these warings go on the drug marked rather than stopping it. It's also peace in the underworld here. We're the worst here tbqh, we're just smart with it, don't flash off etc - the bikers ofc

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>>128282867
>thralls
The Gaels dispatched Vikings with ease and efficiency in Ireland, look up the battles of Cathair Cuan (977) Tara (980) Glenmama (999) Clontarf (1014) etc

The Vikings acted just like niggers, all they did was pillage and rape

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>>128283227
I don't think I understood you question but the number inside the pie is the number of individuals tested. None is gonna test the whole population that's obvious.
The more the better but over 50 samples gives a good representation of the average population for a region.

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>>128274555
Albanians are closely related to Greeks and Bulgarians, not surprising considering they're neighboring ethnic groups. Albanians and other Dinaric populations (i.e. Montenegrins, South Serbs) are extremely high in E-V13, which is thought to predate R1b and R1a in the Balkans. Some consider E-V13 is the genetic marker of when Neolithic farmers flooded the Balkans and Europe 10 - 15,000 years ago.

>>128276019
First of all you realize that there no such thing a "slav dna"? these haplogroups have been present for ever. In any groups being lavic is culture and language not DNA. Furthermore what is now north eastern Germany was once inhabited by slavs., So if anything Slavs have been germanized. Regardless it is irrelevant since these admixtures have been around since before there were such things as slavs or germanic people to begin with.

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>>128266337
Catalans confirmed once again as Occitans.

>During the Middle Ages, for five centuries (8th to 13th) of political and social convergence of these territories, there was no clear distinction or separation between Occitan and Catalan. For instance, the Provençal troubadour, Albertet de Sestaró, says: "Monks, tell me which according to your knowledge are better: the French or the Catalans? and here I shall put Gascony, Provence, Limousin, Auvergne and Viennois while there shall be the land of the two kings."[2] In Marseille, a typical Provençal song is called 'Catalan song'. (M. Milà i Fontanals, De los Trobadores en España, p. 487)

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>>128283697
>The Vikings acted just like niggers, all they did was pillage and rape
The fickificki propaganda surfaced first 200 years after this viking age meme was over. Yeah they were kicked out in the end there, what I meant was our countries, the norse ones and former norse islands(Orkneys, Shetland etc) you see a presence from the thralls, that again I must clarify was not the same as a slave you are used too.
You got to get free if you wanted after a period, you could also be bought free.
The farm kike, the fehird, he was a thrall and lived in his own house and handled the finances. He was the only one doing this, usually they shared. Thralls in one house, the others in another one.

>>128267966
You guys are south slavs, who replaced the thracians the only natives in this part are the daco-romans
WE

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>tards who think haplogroups are relevant to overall genetic makeup

>>128283702
Does an individual have 1 haplo or does he have many meaning that pie chart is of average individual person or is it based on % of populationn that has 1 of those haplos such as 70% have haplo r1b, 20% J etc..

>>128284136
Already asked
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>>128281067
Unless they migrated from Ukraine,Dacians are not I2a.

>>128283714
thanks for this image

>>128284136
Is the language before you got romanized into preserved btw? I wonder how you spoke before the romans. Also a very complicated language.

When I can't sleep sometimes I sit and read about old languages on wiki, if I'm not reading sagas

>>128284104
THE FRENCH ARE DISGUSTING ALBANIAN HYBRIDS

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>>128284286
Lol and you called me retarded? Ofc 1 individual only have 1 haplogroup (ydna in this case).

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>>128283714
I don't get this graph, how can we be so close to Onge?

>>128283714
>Neolithic farmers flooded the Balkans and Europe 10 - 15,000 years ago.
Actually the Neolithic revolution in Europe lasted from around 6,000 to 2,000 b.c. Haplogroup E is believed to have arrived in the Balkans during this expansion, as it existed as minor farmer lineage and continues to exist in pockets.

>>128284405
Yes the rich scandinavian history.. calling others in lnferior.

>>128284409
Knowing that Amsterdam is half maroccan, you must be one of them. Please kys.

>>128276691
>even our subhumans are whiter than Albanians

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>>128284623
Time for north african, caucases, and J removal time.

>>128284738
It's relative.

>>128273241
because if you accept a Turks religion, cook Turkish coffee don't eat pork and ally with turkey politically then what are you but a Turk? Genetics aside.
Turkey is a civic nationalist country anyway, you have blonde Turks and nigger turks

>>128284929
To what?

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>>128284765
Gee I wonder who could be behind this post

>>128276710
>mfw I belong to the East Slavic one