What is the average IQ of /pol/?

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>>128259282

Mine's like 120s ish

Unfortunately I'm still retarded.

83 IQ here

Trump is the best praise the god emperor!!!

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>>128259282
Probably not very high. All the high IQ people voted for Hillary.

>>128259282
>taking IQ test

Last time I checked I was in the 150's somewhere.

I highly doubt that, I always think I'm wrong. One of the reasons I identified with expressed views here is because they seem more 'right'. Got tired of being called 'wrong' for being practically, or realistically correct.

With 95% confidence I'm thinking maybe a light 96-115.

117, but on the spectrum

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>>128259570
>high IQ (((people )))

>>128259282
133 tested

>>128259688
That does seem quite high - supposedly the smartest person you would ever meet in your life would have an average iq of around 140

me
81 IQ
voted for drumpf

>>128260003
Gooooood!!!

134 tested thrice. I'm still a loser and social outcast.

In the low 130s
>would vote Trump
>would vote Brexit
>want to see the EU crash and burn
>don't believe in multiculturalism
>civic nationalist
>pizzagate is real

>>128260493
>swiss
>looking to profit from the collapse of europe

seems about right

>>128260192
Funny that should be true.
Suppose I'm an isolated example, but I've met around thirty people with IQ's above 150.

Some of them were in substantial fields, some just friends, some I've just had the good will to speak with.
Just estimating for about 27 of them though. Real smart, fast thinkers.

Average /pol/ IQ in the past: 130
Average /pol/ IQ now: 20

There was a time /pol/ could see through the likes of George Webb, Kim Dotcom, Joe Biggs, etc.

My clinical Stanford-Binet IQ is 160+, but that may have something to do with the fact I'd done a lot of informal IQ tests over the years before being assessed. I don't think much of it, and it certainly hasn't given me a life that could be described as a resounding success.

Anything is higher than the average IQ of the US population.

>>128259282
75 IQ here, Praise Trump...

Where is a good quiz to check your IQ? I always figure the results from online IQ tests are bullshit.

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I had mine tested, got 145.

>>128260560
>swiss
>believes in freedom, democracy, subsidiarity (responsibilities at the lowest possible level), independence

Corrected that for you buddy

>>128261165
That's so cool you must be really smart also wow nice pic where did you find it?

> be me
> tombstone epitaph: HWNDU #3 participant

> be Chad
> more life in a day than I can expect in 50 years

>>128261165
>>128261239
>samefagging

>>128259570
>indoctrinated manchildren and women who want to go to school their whole lives instead of working and raising a family
>high IQ

No. Literally the dumbest states voted for Hillary, especially California.

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>>128261239
Yeah it was mostly just shapes and some math questions and stuff. Anyway I found the pic on here.

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>>128259282
144 intj here.

I barely even society.

t. American living in Finland, where I have good social skills by comparison.

>>128261210
>looking to profit from the collapse of europe
>believes in freedom, democracy, subsidiarity (responsibilities at the lowest possible level), independence

you're just using more words to say the same thing

>>128261165
Did they ask you to get a nice certificate printed at 14.99 plus shipping? ;^)

128

>>128261239
>ID: OuT

follow suit

140 INTJ

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>>128261309
136 intj here.. never mention iq outside of 4chan iq threads

>>128260003
Someone summarize this picture, please. At least if it's worth it.

My I.Q. is one of the highest -and you all know it! Please don't feel so stupid or insecure,it's not your fault.

>>128261131
you mean france? you "people" have an average iq of 98. the usa has millions of niggers and spics. what's your excuse?

>>128261459
IQ is absolutely useless, or close to it, if you can't lead.

My brother is a born leader and makes a fortune, not very bright whatsoever but he can make/run a dream team and accomplish anything. I'm a fat NEET that passed his le mensa test at 21. He lives an infinitely better life than I live and makes ~3x more per week.

>>128261449
I've got some bad news anon, I've done that test and it is absolute bullshit, if you actually want to know you're IQ you need to go in for a standardised test with a wealth of data to compare your scores to.

>>128259282
my test results said im 81 but that is pretty average for us irish

>>128261597
I'd guess his IQ is in the mid 90's. Functionally illiterate but one of the best speakers i've ever met.

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>>128259282
in 5th grade mine was like in the 130s or 140s
havnt taken a test in a loong time but i here your IQ falls as you age so im prolly in the 120s now

>>128259282

182

>proctored test with psychologist

they adore a president who thinks climate change is a hoax. yeah, high iq, sure, try again. nonbelievers in science by definition

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>>128259282
130 retard, but I'm not economically viable. Thanks mom.

>>128259282
No NEET and no faggot, but still two standards deviations above average.
>the views on here and pretty misguided
Normative statement.
>the arguments used to support them tend to be surprisingly well structured and thought out
That's what matters.
>with cherrypicked evidence
Of course we "cherry" pick and leave all fraudulent soucres out. Our opponents are people, who activly fake studies (e.g. Stephen Jay Gould).
>some questionable sources
Every source should be questioned within reasonable limits.

>>128261679
Your IQ doesn't change

>>128261635
I did the mensa and military tests. I'm in the top 2% when it comes to "le IQ" but i'm in the bottom 20% of society easily. IQ matters far less than the ability to lead, and the ability to lead is far harder to master than pattern recognition, literacy, etc.

English is my second language so perhaps it's even higher. Absolutely useless metric in the real world.

>>128261715
>proctored test with psychologist

Or a psychological test with a proctologist.

biggest part of a "real iq" :
- do what you tell
- stick to your word
- endure pain

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>>128261802
Well Jorden peterson said it gets lower as your get older starting to decrease at age 22 or 23 if i remember correctly. but i could be completely wrong perhaps it is stable across a lifetime with no fall or rise.

>>128261813
>>128261597
If that's true then you would be the anomaly. Plenty of studies show that the most reliable performance indicator for success in life is iq. You dun goofed your life up anons.

mine is 182

>>128259282
pipipupu

I hope nobody minds, but having mentioned my 160+ IQ, I obviously now have to show off with some intellectual flourishes and win this thread's pissing contest. I'm more insecure than I am intelligent.

"iq tests" are total garbage

>>128261770

oh wow, a (((you))) !

eh, just a statement. tbph, INTJs with accompanying higher IQs tend to comprise higher than average percentages on online boards such as this underwater basket weaving forum. meming is a creative activity =\ if you look past the shitposting, as others in this thread have stated, I'm sure you are aware of quite subtle arguments and debates proffered by you and/or your compatriots.

iq 2 here

Measured 144 as a 12 year old in national IQ tests, didn't get diagnosed with autism till 30, drank a lot and did a lot of drugs to get through life till then, now total schiz and psychotic episodes, IQ is not what matters in this world.

>>128259282
~140, tested by (((them)))
I dont believe that bullshit though, its subjective and depends on environment. The only reason Im smart is probably due to my wealthyfag background and the endless self-reflection I get in the mountains (I hate cities)

>>128262062
This. Doesn't matter that Syrians have an average IQ of 80, 25 points below ours. They just as capable as we are and can become doctors and engineers of tomorrow.

>>128259282
"Cherrypicked" implies the existence of contradictory evidence. I'm sick of people using this term like it's some magical trump card like "not an argument" or "nice ad hom bruh." Evidence isn't cherrypicked just because you're too stupid not to agree already with the argument's conclusion.

>>128262008
success in life is 90%+ dependent:
- health
- nutrition

iq is some made up garbage where total disfunctional loosers, that cannot even carry down the trash, can score unrealistically high

>>128259282
112 here.

>>128262198
It does. Success can be very reliably linked to IQ, at least when looking at tendencies. You're just dysfunctional like the majority of 4chan posters.

>>128262008
I've seen plenty of stuff over the years that suggests once you get to a certain point you're more likely to withdraw from society, live in your head, abuse drugs, etc.

Virtually all of the greatest minds were a mess when it came to social activities. Very few of these people made a fortune. Leaders make fortunes and change the world, the intelligentsia not so much.

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Try fasting anons. It increases mitochondria in nerve cells. Without going into detail your brain gets bigger when you fast.

>>128261802
>Your IQ doesn't change
Cognitive decline is a thing, so yeah it can go down over time.

>>128262268
>iq is garbage
>loosers

>>128262067
Also INTJ >>128262198

>>128262198
Get sober if you want the delusions to stop. I'm coming up on 3 years. Trust me.

>>128262062
>"iq tests" are total garbage
butthurt brainlet.

>>128262346
6 months clean, exercising and eating well, things are getting better, thanks anon, nice to know I'm on the right track, getting diagnosed and knowing what was wrong made a big difference

>>128262008
>>128262285
I remember seeing a Canadian military study that showed the higher the IQ, perhaps after a certain point I can't remember, the likelihood of personal hygiene problems (bad teeth especially) rises almost to match.

Our provincial police force only hires university grads and won't hire anyone over a certain IQ. I'm 100% sure of this but can't find proof in a quick google.

>>128262268
t. someone who has done absolutely zero research on the subject

I'm almost laffin at how you just pulled that 90% figure out of your ass

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>>128262289
Physical exercise helps too but u kno Anons will never leave their rollychairs xDDD

>>128259282
149 INTJ here.

>>128262661
ha ha stupid burger you can't physically exercise the brain ha ha.

>>128261802
It does. If you work on your weak points in the test, you will improve your score. That time would be better spent improving your weak points on how you make a living though.

>>128262499
>6 months clean

Clean? What's the /pol/ red pill on nutrition? miscfags care about only composition and muh macros and don't care whether their hearts and livers are clogged up with shit.

Tested myself twice, 124 both times.

A bit above average, eh. At least I'm not nigger-tier.

>>128262760
>what is circulation?
>what are neurotransmitters?
>what is oxygen efficiency?

>>128262789
It's surely unfair for youth that grew up with video games. Sure we will be better at pattern recognition and score higher than anyone from previous generations but those years of video gaming were years not spent being normal social people.

65 IQ here

JEWS ARE BASED! ISRAEL IS THE ONLY DEMOCRACY IN THE MIDDLE EAST! HAIL GOD EMPEROR DONALD TRUMP! PRAISE KEK! XD

>>128259282
>Despite being a bunch of NEETs and faggots

projecting.

anyway, pol AVERAGE iq is pretty low. thanks america.

>>128262936
DEUS VULT! XD

>>128262789
>>128262898
One could argue that since internet users read text from an extremely wide source pool they are far more likely to recognize certain words. Hardly useful in the real world.

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>>128262760
http://fitness.mercola.com/sites/fitness/archive/2015/01/23/brain-benefits-exercise.aspx

I took a Mensa test at like 10 and had an IQ of 115, would it still be the same today?

>>128262620
go find a successfull person that is sick and eats garbage all day

>>128259282
The american posters on /pol/'s iq is around 90. No joke most of you Americans are retarded.

>>128263066
Iceland scores higher than the cheating chinks. I wouldn't doubt it.

>>128259282
>average IQ of pol is relatively high
>What d'you reckon? I would say maybe 102-105

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>>128263066
well it peaks at 20ish supposedly for most ppl at least and then decreases from there.

>>128262963
Dewus vulf!!!

>>128262993
A 150er on here said IQ was about holding pieces of information in the brain simultaneously, pattern recognition (including vocab and grammar), and spatial visualisation.
Not many jobs require that to a high level. It's about EQ and character traits like persistence, confidence etc.

>>128263066
No, your brain is like twice the size now, and so i everyone elses. You should probably take a new one since they compare you to other 10 year olds. It's most likely lower now compared to others.

>>128261452
The last sentence says it all
"The myth of American meritocracy"

>>128260493
>civic nationalist

explains why you're not 145 like me

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>>128261486
They also have millions of niggers and sandniggers.

>>128261452
Whites gentiles are the most discriminated against when applying for a top university in the US.
Given the same ability level whites are ~10 times less likely to be accepted than jews, and 2-3 less likely than asians, hispanics and blacks.

>>128263186
t. low IQ anglo

Kek i think i am one of the only people that actually had a genuine iq test with a psyhologist with a phd.I got average,if you had a test you would know that they tell an extreme aproximate.
He told me that among the pacients he has tested i am average with a alot of aproximation he asked me if i wanted a number.He told me i am around 97-98.

>>128259282
105, however I am a legit autist so that makes me a high functioning autist.

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>>128260003
>>128260436
136 checking in

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>>128263099
A successful person would probably have a high iq and would therefore choose not to do that

>>128263174
>and then decreases from there.
i was 120, because the spatial part was just too weak for me. That was before I got into chess -- and I was shit at that too for the same reason.
15 years later my chess rating is 2000+ and last month I took an IQ test that was solely spatial/visual questions. I know 20 years ago I would have got rekt, but scored 133.
This 'inevitable decline' is bullshit.

>>128263283
You most be fucking stupid if you think IQ matters.

IQ tests are bullshit
149 mensa tested

>>128261891
well he does have his head up his ass

>>128262067
Sorry but INTP masterrace are the majority here

>>128259282
over 155, they wouldn't tell me exactly but they said i'm in the top 0.0001%
not sure how IQ is relevant to political views though
>>128261679
actually I took my 1st at 8/9 (they didn't tell me the results)
took another at 17, they told me what I reported above and that it had increased
>>128261813
not useless but unreliable

>>128263375
Yeah i mean its just a 10 point difference between niggers and dumb muritards and the difference in crime is huge....kek iq is just a meme,just a meme....

>>128263394
wow, he would know, I mean he has such a high iq

>>128263467
Niggers have a 15 point difference, 15 points is a lot...

>>128259282
dunno my iq but got 4 A* in alevels in maths, further maths, physics and chem without even touching my rev guide

>>128263466
its important for understanding systems in which multiple variables must be considered at one, such as economics which is pretty essential to justifying right wing views

>>128262959
>pol AVERAGE iq is pretty low
doubtful. if more people are outcast because they're smart than not, it follows that it's likely pol's average iq is above global average. being here also suggests the ability to think more for one's self than the average person because there is no censorship, which is indictative of intelligence. the ability just to navigate this site is indicative of above average intelligence. you sound like a butthurt newfag leftist. you will either be redpilled or leave.

my IQ is 112 i have ADD and partly Asperges, my autism is real.

>>128263640
t. Pedro

>>128260436
138 Wechsler, I'm pretty much a NEET.

>>128259282
>tfw suffered a brain damage due lack of oxygen during birth
>tfw having a hard time not losing control when sober
>tfw still outsmart most people, but can't remember their names
>tfw National Sozialist 4 greater good

never got tested. maybe 45, if they're not friendly enough.

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>>128259282
The average IQ score for those browsing /pol/ is estimated to be close to 125. Before shitposting please consider the following.

Whenever a thread is started where the GATE conspiracy is brought up, (Gifted Education Programs), it is thrust to the top. This is because many of us have had some kind of experience with these programs. This should be clear evidence that the people who frequent this place are not average. They are either lower IQ than standard population or greater IQ. Now all we have to prove is our superiority.

The topics discussed here orbit around certain themes. Mainly Society, Race and Politics. Take note that these subjects are encompassed within Philosophy, Psychology and History. Each of these branches are pleb tier levels if taken at face value. But combined with an affinity for our traditions they become very powerful and deep. They also require a high level of intelligence to rationalize correctly.

A true sign of intelligence is the ability to hold separate competing ideas at the same time in order to figure out the truth. Well what do you think every post on this board does? They all start with some kind of sarcastic psedo-truth which is then demolished later on down as people find it's faults. OP never believed in the original post, but held the view anyway as devil's advocate in order to gain a better understanding. Sometimes the thread will even go full circle and people will begin defending the defunct idea. A double cross of reason and logic, finding arguments for a false conclusion. This is something lawyers, (A high IQ field), do regularly.

When this is combined with the way our board is set up, with conversations happening vertically and unconnected except for a hyperlink text near the top, we finally have the final proof. The posters here are able to hold multiple detailed conversations over a long period of time. With no reward other than a (you) seemingly.

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https://discovermyprofile.com/myIQ/introduction.html;jsessionid=A6DD747565E1CBD99F4534989A267207


Where can I get a genuine IQ test for free on the internet?

>>128263913
no u

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>>128259282
>>128259386

Im sitting at around 140 but my short term memory retention is 78. Tested in 2003 for attention deficit disorder (predominantly inattentive, not hyperactive). Lady said that was the main gauge for it, that in one or two areas you have a major disparity.

Remembering little details about short stories and verbally described scenes was the real dealbreaker there. If I had to describe a crime scene to the police id get so much shit wrong if it wasnt for the adrenaline.

> to be fair there was a wide array of areas tested, most of them were in the 120 range, I go with the 140 Spatial one though because I was groggy that morning.

In prior years it was suspected that ive got Asbergers because of really shitty English and Speech class grades, but no formal diagnosis was made.

> couldn't write Journal entries, often a major part of the class grade, because I literally had no opinion and Could Not bullshit worth a damn. So I was perfectly honest, with a blank journal.

> I CANNOT bullshit, im straight to the point.

if you take the result of an "iq test" as reliable source for your iq, you have a low iq.

also 90%+ posters on /pol/ are retarded af, barely none of you 20yo fags here is even close to be called "smart"

130. Too smart to be stupid and too stupid to be smart.

Feels bad man.

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>>128263283
It's actually about penis size. The smaller, the more singers you can fuck.

>>128264008
most present as free, get you to spend 40mins doing all the questions and then charge $20 to see your result. go to a psychologist for best results

>>128259688
Intelligent people know their limitations and doubt their minds constantly. The more intelligent you are the more doubtful and cautious you become.

>>128261802
It does, I've seen upwards 5-10 points difference in adults, you can actually do exercises in logic to increase it, plus diet makes a difference. Especially certain fats you find in fish for example, if you lack those your IQ drops a bit.

>>128263408

1v1 me tortuga, spainbro >:D

>>128263351

iq is relatively static, which is reinforced by the fact that many people do not actively train the skills that iq measures. iq's g factor is genuinely comprised of crystal and fluid intelligences, as far as I can recall. the crystal part can be more easily trained, and the fluid part can be exercised through practice as well, albeit with more effort. the theories about neurogenesis and glial cells (the ones that are essentially the single most important factor determining your general intelligence) doing fuckall later in life has been debunked; your brain keeps generating brain cells later in life.

>>128263186

pretty much. application (cf. EQ) is important. could similarly have a genetically
"built" body frame/bone structure, but neither exercise nor eat properly, and the result would still be a physical mess. that having been said, plop a high IQ person into a novel situation, and they will most likely have an edge in survival, due to their ability to innovate (highly correlated with pattern recognition).

>>128264175
don't let an iq score stop you from having delusions of intellectual superiority, idiot.

>>128264242
>Intelligent people know their limitations and doubt their minds constantly. The more intelligent you are the more doubtful and cautious you become.
This. It's why Reed Richards needs assistance from his freakshow just to hold his own against the master Doom.

>>128261160
They are. A true IQ test has object oriented parts which require a proctor to witness.

It should be noted that I've upvoted every single person who's disagreed with me here, as far as I know.

That said.

In 7th grade, I took an SAT test without preparing for it at all, it was spur-of-the-moment, I knew about it about an hour ahead of time and didn't do any research or anything. I scored higher on it than the average person using it to apply for college in my area.
An IQ test has shown me to be in the 99.9th percentile for IQ. This is the highest result the test I was given reaches; anything further and they'd consider it to be within the margin of error for that test.

My mother's boyfriend of 8 years is an aerospace engineer who graduated Virginia Tech. At the age of 15, I understand physics better than him, and I owe very little of it to him, as he would rarely give me a decent explanation of anything, just tell me that my ideas were wrong and become aggravated with me for not quite understanding thermodynamics. He's not particularly successful as an engineer, but I've met lots of other engineers who aren't as good as me at physics, so I'm guessing that's not just a result of him being bad at it.

I'm also pretty good at engineering. I don't have a degree, and other than physics I don't have a better understanding of any aspect of engineering than any actual engineer, but I have lots of ingenuity for inventing new things. For example, I independently invented regenerative brakes before finding out what they were, and I was only seven or eight years old when I started inventing wireless electricity solutions (my first idea being to use a powerful infrared laser to transmit energy; admittedly not the best plan).

I have independently thought of basically every branch of philosophy I've come across. Every question of existentialism which I've seen discussed in SMBC or xkcd or anywhere else, the thoughts haven't been new to me. Philosophy has pretty much gotten trivial for me; I've considered taking a philosophy course just to see how easy it is.

>>128260493
>civic nationalist
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>128264416
Psychology, I actually understand better than people with degrees. Unlike engineering, there's no aspect of psychology which I don't have a very good understanding of. I can debunk many of even Sigmund Freud's theories.

I'm a good enough writer that I'm writing a book and so far everybody who's read any of it has said it was really good and plausible to expect to have published. And that's not just, like, me and family members, that counts strangers on the Internet. I've heard zero negative appraisal of it so far; people have critiqued it, but not insulted it.

I don't know if that will suffice as evidence that I'm intelligent. I'm done with it, though, because I'd rather defend my maturity, since it's what you've spent the most time attacking. The following are some examples of my morals and ethical code.

I believe firmly that everybody deserves a future. If we were to capture Hitler at the end of WWII, I would be against executing him. In fact, if we had any way of rehabilitating him and knowing that he wasn't just faking it, I'd even support the concept of letting him go free. This is essentially because I think that whoever you are in the present is a separate entity from who you were in the past and who you are in the future, and while your present self should take responsibility for your past self's actions, it shouldn't be punished for them simply for the sake of punishment, especially if the present self regrets the actions of the past self and feels genuine guilt about them.

>>128262004

Yes fluid intelligence gets lower, not crystallised intelligence -- this idea is already pretty much mainstream.

>>128264465
I don't believe in judgement of people based on their personal choices as long as those personal choices aren't harming others. I don't have any issue with any type of sexuality whatsoever (short of physically acting out necrophilia, pedophilia, or other acts which have a harmful affect on others - but I don't care what a person's fantasies consist of, as long as they recognize the difference between reality and fiction and can separate them). I don't have any issue with anybody over what type of music they listen to, or clothes they wear, etc. I know that's not really an impressive moral, but it's unfortunately rare; a great many people, especially those my age, are judgmental about these things.

I love everyone, even people I hate. I wish my worst enemies good fortune and happiness. Rick Perry is a vile, piece of shit human being, deserving of zero respect, but I wish for him to change for the better and live the best life possible. I wish this for everyone.

I'm pretty much a pacifist. I've taken a broken nose without fighting back or seeking retribution, because the guy stopped punching after that. The only time I'll fight back is if 1) the person attacking me shows no signs of stopping and 2) if I don't attack, I'll come out worse than the other person will if I do. In other words, if fighting someone is going to end up being more harmful to them than just letting them go will be to me, I don't fight back. I've therefore never had a reason to fight back against anyone in anything serious, because my ability to take pain has so far made it so that I'm never in a situation where I'll be worse off after a fight. If I'm not going to get any hospitalizing injuries, I really don't care.

195 IQ btw

>>128264510
The only exception is if someone is going after my life. Even then, I'll do the minimum amount of harm to them that I possibly can in protecting myself. If someone points a gun at me and I can get out of it without harming them, I'd prefer to do that over killing them.
I consider myself a feminist. I don't believe in enforced or uniform gender roles; they may happen naturally, but they should never be coerced into happening unnaturally. As in, the societal pressure for gender roles should really go, even if it'll turn out that the majority of relationships continue operating the same way of their own accord. I treat women with the same outlook I treat men, and never participate in the old Reddit "women are crazy" circlejerk, because there are multiple women out there and each have different personalities just like there are multiple men out there and each with different personalities. I don't think you do much of anything except scare off the awesome women out there by going on and on about the ones who aren't awesome.
That doesn't mean I look for places to victimize women, I just don't believe it's fair to make generalizations such as the one about women acting like everything's OK when it's really not (and that's a particularly harsh example, because all humans do that).

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>>128259282

It's every kid who was great at English and writing but knew he couldn't make a realistic living out of such a shit profession so he tried something that would bring home the bacon. Easily the average is over 100 (discounting r_the_donald posters. even if I don't really mind them but they are retarded as fuck and need to lurk). Anyways, Pic related. Even the dumbest could figure it out even if they couldn't quite articulate it.

>>128264547
I'm kind of tired of citing these examples and I'm guessing you're getting tired of reading them, if you've even made it this far. In closing, the people who know me in real life all respect me, as do a great many people in the Reddit brony community, where I spend most of my time and where I'm pretty known for being helpful around the community. A lot of people in my segment of the community are depressed or going through hard times, and I spend a lot of time giving advice and support to people there. Yesterday someone quoted a case of me doing this in a post asking everyone what their favorite motivational/inspirational quote was, and that comment was second to the top, so I guess other people agreed (though, granted, it was a pretty low-traffic post, only about a dozen competing comments).

And, uh, I'm a pretty good moderator.
All that, and I think your behavior in this thread was totally assholish. So what do you think, now that you at least slightly know me?

>>128264321
Anyone can try an experiment in nootropics. Get into scrabble or chess (don't get addicted though), and establish your rating.
See how you do after taking combos of flax oil, vanilla, whey powder, creatine, painkillers, modafinil, etc.
I see huge differences. I haven't tried IQ tests juiced up, but if I had to score highly this is how I would prepare. Of course, hydration has the most immediate effect.

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>>128263913

Agree.

Also I would say most of the Low IQ users constitute Shills who are literally following a script and therefore arent even interacting intelligently (its not their own intelligence that is being demonstrated).

That bumps up the actual IQ of /pol/ users even more, for those who actually give a shit to type authentic posts.

> I notice a disturbing trend of being a /thread ender.

> I may post a couple times on a thread that was going steady. My honest advice. And nobody else posts in that thread after that and it dies.

> Is it because all of the participants were just Shills bantering with each other and someone real responded, so they all shut up?

Holding multiple competing ideas at the same time?

I would say ive actually learned some things, particularly about NS and Hitler, because of that. The ability to suspend an immediate knee jerk response to play devil's advocate, well it allows you to pay attention long enough to notice something that you may not have noticed before.

>>128264535
You must be close to ascension anon.

>>128261802
Wrong bucko

>>128264589
>So what do you think, now that you at least slightly know me?
I think you're going to pend your life going round in circles and not make money. So instead of that, pick something lucrative and work at it.
Just remember, the biggest factor for success in life is nepotism, sex with your superiors, and bribery. High IQ doesn't help there -- in fact, it's a hindrance.

>>128259282
identitarian
I have an IQ of 136

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>>128259282
I'd say it's below 90. The vast majority of posters here can't form or dissect arguments and don't understand how a rational discussion works.

>>128264847
most of them are shills though

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>>128259282
Test yourselves faggots and dont cheat.

https://discovermyprofile.com/myIQ/introduction.html;jsessionid=1AD1A045A0A34F49BAA69081F3F38DB0

>>128264080
>if you take the result of an "iq test" as reliable source for your iq, you have a low iq.
Non sequitur. The IQ test is under the top 5 of the most reliable and vaild concepts in psychology.
>also 90%+ posters on /pol/ are retarded af
No source for your claim. Unironically using "af".
>barely none of you 20yo fags here is even close to be called "smart"
>Barley none
>Kaum niemand
So almost everybody.
Also fast jeder.

>>128259282
24 y/o, holding two bachelors (one is in pol. science but w/e, still counts) and a masters, 136 IQ tested.

>>128264847
Argument in bad faith shlomo. You also counted all those shilling here and the redditors.

>>128264625

puzzles and games such as that are good for the mind, as are proper diet and exercise. so, we are in agreement? the only additional corollary I am stating is that you won't see "massive" gains in iq unless you had some severe nourishment/health issues that had to be corrected. 120 to 133 through standard deviation (usually +/- 12 on something like SB?) and hard work? sure. yet, I would highly doubt that someone could alter their iq from, say 85, to 150. psychometric tests are designed to be statistically resistant, and moving up that many standard deviations would be exceedingly improbable.

>>128259282
My IQ is 155, ive been tested
im also a socialist. Debate me niggers

>>128265124
Agreed

>>128260003
122 here. Chemistry intern.

>>128262760
Guess who is getting Alzheimer's at 50.

I've never had mine formally tested as I've never been flagged for having a low one in school, nor have I ever required a psychiatric evaluation.

So I have no idea. But I'm white, wealthy, well-travelled, and well-read, so I would assume at least average for my race. Cars going in circles do not amuse me, which seems to please the dumber members of my race.

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INTJ hyper autism master race

>>128265101
>that image
t. /lit/

>>128262832
>tested yourself

>>128262527
Same in the US. Police aren't allowed to be over 110 i think. they justified it with 'high turnover' guess people smarter than that get bored/better opportunties and move on.

>>128263111
Based Denmark with trips. Please spare me when you decide to conquer the planet.

>IQ 12

huurrrrr ;()

>>128259961

Same

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>>128260923
Aussie
160+
Choose one mate

>>128263661
Your IQ should be 10pc higher then

>>128265101
a 5 minute trip to /jp/ and then /sci/ debunk this instantly

>>128263224
Jews outperform Whites on IQ tests with an average about 15 points above. So that doesn't count.

>>128259282
itt morons and fehguts that would rather toot their own horns than contribute intelectualy

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>>128265110
I literally wasn't making an argument. You don't understand what an argument is. Also, the people you accuse of being "shills and redditors" are part of /pol/, like it or not. Thanks for illustrating my point, though.

>>128265129
Only the smartest and the dumbest people could fall for socialism.

>>128259570
>polls on Trump voting
>accurate
wat

>>128263614
True but there's much more to it
High IQ is related to emotional hypersensitivity which can make it hard for some people to come to terms with the fact that our (((elites))), not only do not want what's best for us, but are actively working against us
also, the left is constantly pulling heartstrings and I know I used to believe their bullshit so I can understand why a smart person would fall for it

>>128265101
Literally bullshit.... Holyshit /b/ is more intelligent than /pol/ and. /x/ should be higher than /pol/ also

Mine was 140, but that was taken before I burned out a bunch of brain cells drinking and drugging in my 20's and 30's........

138 IQ mastergypsy reporting in

>>128265742
really?
okay lets analyze what the actual problem with capitalism is
lets see here
PROFIT MAXIMIZATION
its a terrible way to improve a nation, if this is the only driving factor behind change
profit maximization leads to subversion of a nations culture, by replacement with "consumer culture" which elicits more spending/consumption, so the big businesses can make a profit.
Examples of consumer culture being mcdonalds, clothes brands, apple,

in other areas too, profit maximization doesnt lead to an increase in quality, but increase in shiftiness of methods to get people to BUY
look up edward bernays, he is essentially the poster child for this kind of marketing that has ruined capitalism

sure, in concept, economically, it sounds logical, but in practice people try to find the easiest ways to make money, and that might mean importing millions of third world immigrants to work in their factories for cheaper.

what do you say in response to this?

>>128265101
>/lgbt/ nearly 20 IQ points smarter than /pol/
lmao

>>128259282
115. Made an official test.
The new tests don't give you "just" the number though.
While I sucked at remembering numbers and seeing patterns in number threads, I shot through the roof in spatial thinking, mechanics and making fast conclusions.
(All useless success is all numbers mayn)

>>128259282
Ashkenazi Jew here, tested at 154 IQ.

72 and learned english alone for 28 year.

For those who have been officially tested, does www.iqtest.dk get your iq the same?

>>128266298
I just got above 145, it didn't go into more detail

>>128266089
Nigger

>>128266298
(Actual is 154, so matches up I suppose)

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>>128259282

my friend is MENSA and I do laps around him logically, but he's much stronger socially.

I guess I'd test around the top 90% but I probably belong in 80% range

>>128266636
From a Serb? Are you sure some of your great grandparents weren't German or Jewish?

>>128260493
Dunno. Tested at 9yo, got 121 then. Barely graduated high school. Now a 5-years graduate in IT. 3 years unemployed, passed a contest and getting a job alongside the French Army. Yeah I'm just lazy.

>>128259282
>a lot of the views on here and pretty misguided

Misguided in what way?

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>>128266876
forgot pic

>>128265988
You're correct that profit maximization doesn't always benefit the people.

It's important for the government to regulate capitalistic systems so that it doesn't go out of control.
This means breaking up monopolies and having rules against pollution or having rules about where ads can be placed. etc.
I'm totally fine with the idea of regulations.

The true defining property of a capitalistic system is that people don't have to give money unless they want to. If you agree with that, I would say you're a capitalist.

The structure of capitalism is:
1. a person wants to make a business
2. he tries to find someone to fund his venture (a bank loan or a capitalist)
3. the bank demands interest on the loan, the capitalist may demand some share of the company.

This is the structure you should criticize if you want to criticize capitalism.

>>128265988
>okay lets analyze what the actual problem with capitalism is
>PROFIT MAXIMIZATION
>its a terrible way to improve a nation, if this is the only driving factor behind change
It's almost as if capitalism isn't a way to "improve a nation", because it doesn't have built-in value judgments. Now that I think of it, it's almost as if economic systems that are based on value-judgments rather than reality fail miserably both in generating economic prosperity AND in improving society in general. Say, what if people took it upon themselves to better their societies by exercising their economic power intelligently instead of trying to build a magic economic system that would do it for them?

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>>128264664
Hitler is what we use to train people here to get over that reaction. In the normie world if you even mention his name you could be shunned and outcast. Here we normalized it and talk honestly about WWII. Same thing with "dangerous" words like "nigger". From the outside it looks like blatant racism but really we are just playing around with the ideas society has barred us from thinking.

>>128266636
how accurate are the online mensa tests?

>>128267258
Not very, iqtest.dk is probably the best there is, but it doesn't even take into account age.

>>128259282
69 here

>>128267127
Except morals also play a big part in how things work. I know for a fact Christianity advocates for charity, in stark contrast of pure capitalism.

And no, I'm not confusing charity and socialism. Fuck socialism.

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160. also have phd. 1488 1776 right now. also trumps signature is russian cursive.

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>>128259478

88 here

>>128267127
so you are anti-taxation?
i believe taxation can lead to many beneficial things
the government is essentially a business model, a non-profit business model. this means they can provide services without the same need to be making excess money.
Governments can provide things like electricity, water, gas, internet, and other utilities better than private corporations simply due to the fact that there is no profit motive
Regulations are, of course, fine by me. The defining feature, as i see it, is that i believe in state competition to all business sectors.

Also the land belongs to the people, mining companies are exploitative and do not benefit the people in the same way that a state mining program would.

>>128267184
>literally admitting that capitalism as an economic system does not improve the nation
>also saying that people in a capitalistic system should go against the economic system because you have to go against it to build a better nation
why not just have the system set up in a way so it is most profitable to do things that benefit the nation as a whole?
dumb CUNT

>>128267348
doubt it, the mensa tests are harder

>>128265988
A capitalistic system which undermines itself will simply evolve to keep itself profitable. If the system is failing because people have a low quality of life then it will self correct to become successful by making the quality of life go up.

>>128267218
>Hitler is what we use to train people here to get over that reaction

i dont know if its still like this here but by the time you left /b/ you were already desensitized to that kind of stuff. /pol/ just showed you how deep the rabbit hole really goes

>>128266089
nigger

>>128267620
>literally admitting that capitalism as an economic system does not improve the nation
No. I said there's nothing inherent in capitalism that makes a nation better or worse, and this is by design. It economically empowers people. How they use their economic power is up to them. They can use it to destroy a nation, or to make it better.

>also saying that people in a capitalistic system should go against the economic system because you have to go against it to build a better nation
No, I'm saying that people in a capitalistic system should use their economic power to promote things they deem good, and to economically starve companies that act against public interest. Thanks for demonstrating your low IQ.

>>128259282
I could say the average could be well over US average, as the arguments are well thought out to 110-120, but in reality it is probably a 105-110 average. I am personally 140, but most of this sub is about 105-110.

>>128261145
Trump is better than Shilliary>>128259478
>>128262936

>>128267837
>If the system is failing because people have a low quality of life
The capitalistic economic system doesnt fail if people have a low quality of life, it fails if profits are not made and economic transactions go down.
It will not correct if the system makes profit, but also in the meantime causing everyone to be fat shits with diabetes and other profitable diseases, and having everyone eat mcdonalds all day every day. In that case the capitalistic system would be thriving

>>128268074
>How they use their economic power is up to them.
It is up to them, and it just so happens that profits can only be maximized to the DETRIMENT of a nation. This simple fact proves that capitalism does have something inherent that causes a nation to become worse.
consumer culture is not healthy for a nation, but it is what the capitalistic system produces naturally

>people in a capitalistic system should use their economic power to promote things they deem good
yeah but it is not PROFITABLE to do this, the whole capitalistic system is based on "whatever is most profitable, will occur"
For your idealistic version of capitalism to work, it would require the whole population to always be thinking about what is best for my nation what will improve it most, but that is false, there are so many retards out there that listen to the ads and marketing campaigns, get diabeetus, and spend the rest of their lives paying their insulin costs while working their shitty 9 to 5 job -- THATS PROFITABLE and thats what happens

>>128268326
>it just so happens that profits can only be maximized to the DETRIMENT of a nation.
Prove this claim.

>yeah but it is not PROFITABLE to do this, the whole capitalistic system is based on "whatever is most profitable, will occur"
You didn't understand what I said. Read it again until you come up with a response that isn't a complete non-sequitur.

>>128268326
The system will fail if the people are sick and dying. It will keep them alive and healthy as long as is necessary to gain the best rate of return.

Capitalism will fail if there is no middle class, because they are those who consume.

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>>128266636
from my old IQ test Cambridge university was 113 and to this now 131... IQ test are so fucking weird.

>>128268441
>people in a capitalistic system should use their economic power to promote things they deem good, and to economically starve companies that act against public interest.

Oh, so they SHOULD do that and that's why it works???
How is that an argument?

>>128268768
People act in their own self interest.

>>128268710
online iq tests are inaccurate dum

I'm an aspie. My intelligence plummets to nigger-tier if I'm in unfamiliar surroundings or if music is too loud.
I've avoided ever actually taking an IQ test because I was sure the result would just worsen my depression.
Low score means I'm shit. High means smart but not accomplished so still shit.

>>128259282
Over 9000

>>128259282
Nobody here knows and if they do they lie about it or tell you what they got from smell shitty website. It's always 130 - 140 on average in these threads. Yeah right.

>>128268768
>hey SHOULD do that and that's why it works?
No. It works because it achieves its purpose, unlike the cancer of socialism that only serves to disempower and impoverish people, rendering them irrelevant. You're complaining about capitalism not forcing people to act as they should, while socialism denies them the means altogether.

>>128267348
iqtest.dk is too easy because of unlimited time The Norwegian test is much better. 25 minutes to answer all questions

>>128267620
>so you are anti-taxation?
>i believe taxation can lead to many beneficial things

I have mixed feelings on taxation...But I agree that taxation is not a capitalistic paradigm.

>>128267620
>Governments can provide things like electricity, water, gas, internet, and other utilities better than private corporations simply due to the fact that there is no profit motive

I think this is true in the short term, but in the long term if you have competition, the for-profit companies are going to innovate better ways to do things, whereas the government institution has no incentive to do that.
Any overly oppressive practices by these companies can be regulated.

>>128267620
>The defining feature, as i see it, is that i believe in state competition to all business sectors.
But isn't the state essentially a giant monopoly? Whatever finance a company can bring to a situation, the state will have much more money available.... and will easily drive most companies out of business.

>>128267620
>Also the land belongs to the people, mining companies are exploitative and do not benefit the people in the same way that a state mining program would.

I don't know if I agree with this. It sounds like you're saying the land belongs to the state. I would say the land belongs to the people in so far as the actions taken upon the land affect the people generally. In other words: If the mining company causes collateral damage to a community, then the community has some right to veto an action or charge the company money for doing it, etc.
But I don't think it's a good idea to say that people don't own the land they live on. I like the idea of land as property.

>>128268487
>The system will fail if the people are sick and dying.
wrong, it will not fail simply due to this fact, and people being sick and dying is a potentially very profitable avenue
>It will keep them alive and healthy as long as is necessary to gain the best rate of return.
it will keep them just on the brink of life. And it will be expensive too!
you are esentially saying what i am saying here, the economic powers will keep them alive just enough until they have squeezed the last penny out of every human being

>>128268441
>Prove this claim.
in my previous post i provided an example, i will restate it.
Consumer culture is something that is created naturally in a capitalistic system. It is a culture designed to maximize profits by subverting loyalty to culture with brand loyalty. A good example is clothes brands, and the fashion industry.
another example is immigration, if it is most profitable for a country to have lots of third world workers to do all the labour work for cheap, then that is what will happen. You will have immigrants flooding the country to take jobs for low wages. and on top of that immigrants provide even MORE consumers to buy the produced goods, thereby maximizing profits even further

>You didn't understand what I said.
i absolutely did. You are saying that ideally, the people in a capitalistic system know what they are doing when they are using their economic power, and they should not be manipulated by marketing campaigns. and purchase to the benefit of themselves
however you are wrong because people dont KNOW what is best for themselves. there are so many examples of this.
people get TOLD what is best for themselves. Look up edward bernays.

>come up with a response that isn't a complete non-sequitur.
that is just your cognitive dissonance kicking in, you dont want to accept my viewpoint that challenges yours, so you perceive it as making no sense.

The average pol iq is 120
I have 140, and im not even that smart
I feel smarter than most people i encounter in everyday life, but in a group of professors i feel pretty normal, maybe slightly smarter
I would say pol is pretty smart, the structure of arguments and the way people here think, can only be achieved by smart people
A society by us would probably more sucessful than any other on this planet

>>128268945
>disempower and impoverish people, rendering them irrelevant.
explain how socialism does this.

>You're complaining about capitalism not forcing people to act as they should, while socialism denies them the means altogether.
>socialism denies them the means altogether.
do you even know what socialism is?

>>128268856
No they dont!
They only think they do, but people are manipulated very easily how can you browse this board and still not understand this?
CORPORATIONS MANIPULATE THE PEOPLE TO MAXIMIZE PROFITS

>>128259282

>160 tested
>still a wagecuck

IQ is a meme.

>>128269159
Companies exist by converting mass into something of greater value than the original mass was acquired. Without a healthy population there will be no one to create the products and no one to buy the products. That means the company will fail and a new one will take it's place.

You are talking as though money comes from nowhere and is worth whatever the government decides. This is not true. Money is only worth what people agree it is worth in a free market setting.

>>128269159
>in my previous post i provided an example, i will restate it.
That's literally not an argument.

>i absolutely did.
You didn't.

>>128269147
>I would say the land belongs to the people in so far as the actions taken upon the land DON'T* affect the people generally.

>>128268859
sure, everything online is inaccurate because real life is so special. KEK

>>128269277
>explain how socialism does this
By imposing an economic system based on subjective value judgment and wishful thinking which cannot account for all the complexities of reality and cannot adapt to change as efficiently as a free market.

>>128269732
socialism=/=commmunism

>>128269903
>literally not knowing what socialism and communism are

>>128269147
>but in the long term if you have competition, the for-profit companies are going to innovate better ways to do things
this is why private utilities are not banned, socialist economics allows for a mixed model of these kinds of things. where the government provides a service, non profit, and corporations are allowed to compete with that service.

>the government institution has no incentive to do that.
actually they do, the government (ideally) wants to cut costs as much as any other private enterprise, and many scientific breakthroughs are funded by the government too.
think about it, technological improvements are beneficial for a whole nation so the government should subsidize all kinds of technology.

>But isn't the state essentially a giant monopoly?
no, not really. The state can provide competition to the private sector, as in public schooling, socialized healthcare, and a wide array of other things.

>Whatever finance a company can bring to a situation, the state will have much more money available.
Isnt this just the free market in action then? a company could compete with the state if it was non-profit too.

>I like the idea of land as property.
And this is fine, but mining companies (at least here in australia) dont OWN the land they mine, its rented in a sort of deal from the government. I would be fine if the mining companies purchased the land, and the land was put up for sale at a similar price to the value of what was in it. Mining companies, through this deal, make a lot of profits that go into the pockets of big businesses, not the people of the country who the land is publicly shared between.

>>128269397
>Without a healthy population
oh the population will be healthy, Just healthy enough to work in that coal mine or factory, just healthy enough to sit in an office all day.

>>128269406
>That's literally not an argument.
stop using your jew tactics and ignoring everything i posted afterwards. CONT

street smart is underestimated

>>128270097
Only if you're a nigger

>>128259282
>higher than the US average
That is one low bar to set

/Pol/ is pretty fucking stupid, and displays herd mentality that it bashes Reddit for having

Even if people were posting here ironically, wasting time on an imageboard pretending to be stupid is still pretty stupid

>>128269406
>That's literally not an argument.
You obviously failed to see everything else i posted after that, i will copy and paste it again, maybe this time your nose wont block all the writing.
"Consumer culture is something that is created naturally in a capitalistic system. It is a culture designed to maximize profits by subverting loyalty to culture with brand loyalty. A good example is clothes brands, and the fashion industry.
another example is immigration, if it is most profitable for a country to have lots of third world workers to do all the labour work for cheap, then that is what will happen. You will have immigrants flooding the country to take jobs for low wages. and on top of that immigrants provide even MORE consumers to buy the produced goods, thereby maximizing profits even further"

>You didn't.
Oh so that's not what you meant? please tell me what you REALLY meant. oh wait...

>>128269732
>subjective value judgment
judgement of what?

>wishful thinking
wishful thinking of what? haha holy shit are you really just saying a bunch of buzzwords to try and sound smart.
You are writing words but you say nothing

>>cannot adapt to change as efficiently as a free market.
>implying the free market cannot exist in a socialist economy

>>128270070
> jew tactics
I asked you to prove your claim. What you did instead was to describe how you see the current situation and assume that it's somehow inherent to capitalism, which is what you were supposed to prove in the first place.

139 here

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>>128259282
>tfw dont need to be smart because family's upper middle class/high class
but otherwise im pretty smart and did relatively good in school all A,B,some C+

>>128270543
Get lost with your jew tactics buddy.

>>128270690
>being a butthurt commie faggot
Still don't see a logical argument proving that capitalism inherently causes the citizens of a nation to exercise their economic power mindlessly and irresponsibly.

>>128270788
I'm not a commie, wtf.

but I got 108 on the cambridge site lol

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>>128270929

and 140 on norwegian one

>>128261298

That's true California has the same IQ as mexico - the lowest in the US even behind Mississippi...

Is there a decently accurate online test?

>>128270543
okay, lets analyse what my original claim was, the one you asked me to prove. I said this
>When economic power holders use their power, it just so happens that in many cases profit can only be maximized to the DETRIMENT of a nation.
I did not "describe how i see the current situation"
I described 2 aspects where capitalism only brings detriment to a nation
I pointed out the consumer culture created by capitalism, which is something that only causes detriment. You cannot be a capitalistic economic power holder and promote authentic, native culture. Choose christmas for example, it has been subverted into a materialistic consumerist method to sell cheap bits of plastic and increase consumption
You are being a real fucking goldberg with your blissful ignorance of what i say here.

>what you were supposed to prove in the first place.
okay so you dont think consumer culture is inherent to capitalism? you think profit maximization isnt inherent to capitalism?
fuck off kike, you are being retarded on purpose.

>>128270788
>don't see a logical argument proving that capitalism inherently causes the citizens of a nation to exercise their economic power mindlessly and irresponsibly.
is your nose obstructing your vision?

>>128259282
i got 119 on one test i took, but i'd say bit above 100, don't consider myself that smart

>>128271140
>decently accurate
>online test

Pick one

>>128271140
Yes, the cambridge IQ test

>>128259961
same but 132 (raven's matrices)

having the 'tism kind of invalidates it though because I can't interact with people efficiently

>>128271162
>failing to make an argument again
It literally looks like you don't understand what an argument is.

>>128259570
MA is gerrymandered to drown out the R vote.

What does anything you mentioned even have to do with IQ? The guy with the highest recorded IQ says that an IQ test doesn't mean shit. Because being smart is not just being able to solve math problems and complex puzzles, it's being able to figure out people, your environment, yourself.
I'd say this board is pretty intelligent, not because of high IQ's but because people here have the intuition to see situations and events in a more realistic way than the rest of the population and are pretty tuned in to what is bullshit and what isn't, for the most part

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>>128271253
>tfw 132 and no tism

>>128266895
not really, I've never done one of those gene tests
but I hope that's true, the German one that is

>>128271270
>projecting
Your jewish tactics are really glaring, your rabbi didnt train you well.
Ill point you to the arguments i have restated many many times for you, one last time.
>>128271162
>>128270388
>>128269277
>>128268326

Now i will just make you mad by posting more truth bombs :---^)
You cant stop me, shlomo

Okay lets go,
Private central banks are abominations, nationalizing banks is the only sensible way to deal with a nations currency.
And not only nationalizing the banks, but keeping it under control of the government, so no jew meddling can occur.
Currency must be issued as needed, and deflation should never occur in a nation. Inflation is not as bad as the federal reserve would like you to believe.
In fact, inflation causes the value of DEBT to decrease in value, meaning the jew loses its investments.
Currency is the life blood of an economy, so a free market of competing currencies should be encouraged.

>>128271803
Still don't see a logical argument proving that capitalism inherently causes the citizens of a nation to exercise their economic power mindlessly and irresponsibly.

Do you want me to explain to you how to make a logical argument?

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>>128261296
wouldn't wonder me if u are the samefag himself, proxyfagging for trolls

also, sage

>>128272092
>Do you want me to explain to you how to make a logical argument?
HAHAHAHA i would LOVE to see you try!

>Still don't see a logical argument
Your nose is STILL obstructing your vision?

>prove that capitalism inherently causes the citizens of a nation to exercise their economic power mindlessly and irresponsibly
People aren't smart, people are persuaded by marketing campaigns. marketing campaigns cause the people to exercise their economic power irresponsibly, they are manipulated into buying things they dont need. How else do you explain people buying $1000 Shirts?
Before capitalism, people exercised their economic power within smaller communities, and they were persuaded by culture or family instead of big corporate marketing campaigns. Capitalism causes marketing and advertising, which is a perversion of the natural usage of economic power.

>>128272602
>HAHAHAHA i would LOVE to see you try!
State your premises clearly, then show how they lead to your conclusions step by step.

>>128269955
>Karl Marx=Adolf Hitler
k schlomo you just proved you were an actual retard

>>128272974
>making bizarre false implications

>>128272899
>he literally had to google how to make a logical argument

>State your premises clearly, then show how they lead to your conclusions step by step.
Is that not exactly what i did? hmm?

>>128273022
>projecting

>ITT: Everyone here is a genius
Epic for the win. If you were even as smart as you think you were, you wouldn't be on 4chan.

>>128273117
>Is that not exactly what i did? hmm?
No. If your premise is "people aren't smart", then your argument is a non-sequitur. Just do it properly next time.

>>128259282
I'd guess 110-115. I'd say a good majority of the people on /pol/ are decently intelligent but I've definitely read some questionable posts on here that have made me wonder if borderline retarded people post here. I've also seen some posts that makes me think there might be literal geniuses among us.

>>128273269
>If your premise is "people aren't smart", then your argument is a non-sequitur.
that's not my premise
and you dont know what a non-sequitur is, do you?

>>128259282
racists generally have a 1.5 standard deviation down of IQ, so if there are non-ironic racists here, then it's extremely low

>>128266999
>socialism is kool
>traps = not gay
>atheists are dumb

To name a few

>>128273445

Still don't see a logical argument proving that capitalism inherently causes the citizens of a nation to exercise their economic power mindlessly and irresponsibly.

>>128273022

me : socialism =/= communism
you : oy vey you don't know what these are
me : ok, so according to you all-knowing twat socialism=communism?
you : "bizarre false implications"

gotta luv dat talmud

>>128270929
I just did that Cambridge one and got 111, and this is my result on Mensa >>128266636
strange

>>128273766
You don't understand the relationship between socialism and full-blown communism. This is clear because yelling "socialism=/=communism" doesn't disprove anything I said.

>>128273914
>yelling lmao

the question is never socialist/non-socialist?
It is HOW socialist?
Name one country with 0 socialist policies

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>>128272899
(((that flag))))

>>128273860
kek, I got 113 on Cambridge and you got more in Norwegian test than me. test are so weird.

>>128273496
racist in the sense that it is studied in those kinds of tests is not the kind of racism we have on /pol/
those test for people who are close minded, and probably experience a lot of cognitive dissonance
ahem...
>>128273625

>proving that capitalism inherently causes the citizens of a nation to exercise their economic power mindlessly and irresponsibly.
well thats not what you asked me to prove now is it you big doofus
my premise, in case you missed it all 5 times ive repeated it now, is this.
>When economic power holders use their power, it just so happens that in many cases profit can only be maximized to the DETRIMENT of a nation.
To give an example of this, i pointed out the consumer culture created by capitalism. I explained how this process works, by employing marketing campaigns and using propaganda tactics to lead the people to spend their money on useless things.
This creates a consumerist culture, where shirts sell for $1000 because the consumer was so indoctrinated they thought that piece of clothing was actually WORTH it. A Consumerist culture is very opposite to authentic culture, as authentic culture is not materialistic. Cultural subversion can not create an authentic culture while still providing profit maximization to the big businesses, because authentic culture does not elicit the purchasing of useless things. Authentic culture is axiomatically important to a nations art, music, and plays a large part in societies cohesion. Because of this, economic power holders, when using their power to affect culture (by means of marketing campaigns), can only be detrimental to the culture of a nation, and in turn the nation itself.

There you go
>inb4 oy vey i refuse to acknowledge the logic of your antisemitic argument!

>>128274079
>the question is never socialist/non-socialist?
>It is HOW socialist?
The system either allows private ownership of the means of productive or it doesn't. There's no middle ground. If it allows private ownership of the means of productive, it's not socialism.

>>128269955
>implying socialism=communism
hangon
>literally OUTRIGHT STATING that socialism and communism are the same thing, by saying that >>128269903 is wrong when he says socialism=/=communism

and now you are saying, what
>>128273914
>the fact that socialism=/=communism doesn't disprove anything I said
you said socialism=communism

the happy israeli strikes again

>>128259282

177 here, bow before your new emperor faggots

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Last 3 digits tell me how smart.

>>128274350
>When economic power holders use their power
"Economic power holders" is anyone with any money, and using this power means using the money for some purpose.

>"it just so happens that in many cases profit can only be maximized to the DETRIMENT of a nation."
Prove this claim.

>>128274723
> by saying that >>128269903 is wrong
I never said it's wrong. I said he doesn't understand what communism and capitalism are if he brings it up as a counter-argument when it's completely irrelevant. Every post of yours is evidence of the subhuman nature and the low IQ of communist dogshit.

>>128274454
>If it allows private ownership of the means of productive, it's not socialism.

As I have been saying the whole time, you think socialism=communism

Is free health care a socialist policy?
If so, how come we have private property in France?
>your argument BTFO for the last time I hope

>>128275160
>>When economic power holders use their power
I better give some definitions or you will go to your classic jew tricks of trying to argue semantics with me.
Economic Power Holder: by this i mean the ones who have a significant control over the economy of a nation, ie a very wealthy individual.
Use their power: By this i mean when the power is used, as per the capitalist system, to give them PROFIT.

>Prove this claim.
i literally just did you megajew

>>128275264
>>communist
>implying
just more evidence that you have no clue what socialism or communism are. I am a national socialist.

>I never said it's wrong.
You took issue with the statement, you disagreed with the statement. You disagreed with the statement that communism=/=socialism, so you were arguing that communism DOES = Socialism, which is obviously wrong. Its black and white here.

>I said he doesn't understand what communism and capitalism are
no you didnt

>>128275777
checked

bumping so everyone can see this kike getting completely BTFO

>>128275777
>As I have been saying the whole time, you think socialism=communism
No. You literally don't know what socialism is. Go read the definition and you'll see that I'm correct and that you're a mongoloid. Communism goes a step further and declares that not only the means of production should be publicly owned, but everything except your toothbrush should be public property.

>>128260192
>the smartest person you'll ever meet has IQ 140
Well, ~1% of people have an IQ of 140 or higher, so if you meet only 100 truly random people in your lifetime, that is statistically true. I would be willing to guess that the people you meet are not truly random, and that you will meet more than 100.

Realistically, you'll truly get to know 1000 people in a lifetime. The smartest of which will be in the 99.9th percentile, equivalent to an IQ of 147, if the average IQ of interaction is 100. If the average IQ of interaction is shifted upwards five points, we would expect a (roughly) five point increase, or an IQ of 153.

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>>128259282
6 million IQ

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>>128259570
All the high IQ people abstained because they knew both candidates were shit

>>128275264
>I never said it's wrong.
>>128269955
lie

>I said he doesn't understand what communism and capitalism are if he brings it up as a counter-argument when it's completely irrelevant.
another lie, I never mentioned capitalism

>Every post of yours is evidence of the subhuman nature and the low IQ of communist dogshit.
Says the fucker who can't argue in good faith.
You still call us communists, you insufferably disingenuous cunt

>>128276143
>arguing semantics
hahaha, typical

Also
>>128274350
>>inb4 oy vey i refuse to acknowledge the logic of your antisemitic argument!
i was right

>>128275801
>provides shitty non-definitions for the purpose of making a tautological non-argument
Redefining words in order to exclude the vast majority of participants in the system doesn't make you look any less retarded. Anyway, I'm done arguing with literal subhumans. I've given you enough chances to prove your claim, but you evidently can't. Furthermore, you literally don't know what socialism means if by failing to recognize its main component, which is the public ownership of the means of production.

>>128276287
>>128276356
Literally lying subhumans demonstrating every trait they attribute to their Jew boogeyman. It's just too perfect. You lose. Thanks for playing.

>>128276542
http://www.marxmail.org/faq/socialism_and_communism.htm

>>128264079
Are you me? Also tested IQ around the same time and had very similar results. I can't spell to save my life, but my grammar, math, and science comprehension are all much better. Dropped out of high school because I was failing (had severe ADD but wasn't tested until later). Now have a 4.0 GPA in my masters program. Shit's weird, but I guess you learn to deal with it.

>>128276660
>runs away screaming you lose

doesn't look like you're very confident in your argument there

>>128276542
>I'm done
the jew has been thrown down the well!

>Redefining words in order to exclude the vast majority of participants in the system
literally did not do this.

>>but you evidently can't.
>oy vey i refuse to acknowledge the logic of your antisemitic argument!
I evidently can, and you are proving me even more right.

>>you literally don't know what socialism means
>implying
you literally don't know what socialism means

>which is the public ownership of the means of production
Is jointly owned means of production, between the public and private individuals, not socialism then? if not, what is it?

Just concede defeat, shlomo

>>128276660
>>128276542
>literal subhumans
>Literally lying subhumans demonstrating every trait they attribute to their Jew boogeyman
>You lose.
oh shit hes gotten mad!
OH NO HES GONNA SHOAH US