AUSPOL gooks own whitebois edition pt.2

>>128257295
FUCK OFF CHINK CUNT

>>128257295
WTF Australia?

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Which one /pol/?

>>128257420
Why do you hate me?

>>128257571
left obviously

Fuck off you retarded fucking discord poster.

I hate you and your stupid fucking club so fucking much.

>>128257864
t. autistic cunt loser

>>128257972
FUCK OFF.

>>128257295
>Be me
>Date 10/10 Chinese cutie
>No longer have time for western women degeneracy
>现在我知道中文。
>Everything is perfect

>Be You
>Be Beta
>Still running after degen western women

Keep trying cucks.

>>128257295
Wtf, straya?

>>128258262

My GF is not white. I agree with you 100%. Fuck white women.

>>128258043
hahahhahah
butthurt autist cunt

hows the dsp like?

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>>128258361
I'm not the sad motherfucker whose only meaningful social interaction comes from a fucking Discord and whose sole feeling of empowerment comes from moderating said Discord.

Furthermore, my self-esteem would never be tied to the size of the Discord I moderate so even if I were the aforementioned sad motherfucker I wouldn't be on 4chan EVERY SINGLE NIGHT spamming links to my Discord to fight off the crippling depression that fills my life.

How do you get a gook girl pregnant?


Cum on the floor and let the flies do the rest.

>>128258466
shu your cunt mouth you autistic cunt

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>>128258687

I think I am becoming a full natsoc.

So do you remember Hawke/Keating/etc as badly as we remember Thatcher? Or do they get a pass for neoliberalism because they're Labor? (Or does the "Conservative = mean but smart, Labour = nice but dim" stereotype not carry to Liberal/Labor?)

How is the 1975 dismissal of Whitlam viewed today? It seems mildly extraordinary as an outside that it could've happened. (Even if for comparison, at the time certain elements of the armed forces were preparing to remove our Labour government...)

Becoming mildly fascinated with Australian and Kiwi politics since they seem even more nightmarish than British ones, but more distant because I never had to suffer under them.

>>128258741
hahahahah abbo cunt go and masturbate to futa

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>>128259393

>>128259360
>brits
>in auspol
fuck off

>>128259494
but i secretly wish i was one of you

i mean, it's a proxy, mate-cunt-cunt-vive-le-quebec-libre.

cunt.

>>128259546
LEAVE DOGGO ALONE

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>>128257295
.

>>128259618
LEAVE
DOGGO
ALONE

>>128259695
LEAVE DOGGO ALONE CUNT

>>128259360
Almost everyone loves Hawke Keating and Whitlam.

Whitlam fucked up and appointed a Governor General that didn't like him.

Yes labor generally gets a pass even though they are neo liberal as fuck. Our population is mostly retarded shit just like yours.

Looks like England didn't have a very good 80s. Ours was awesome.

>>128257295
Australia and China have hardly anything in common, all Australia wants is to get China's money and most importantly cheap labor from all across Asia, most notably Indonesia, which is right near Australia.

>>128259799
What? They are burning in hell, Keating is alright.

>>128259695
They don't want to kill him yet, only make him soft so his fur can be plucked off easily, but kill him only when customers orders, so you get fresh meat.

>>128260092
Why not skin them like a rabbit?
Sounds like bullshit.

>>128260296
Rabbit is already dead when they skin them. They take fresh food seriously on street.

>>128259360

Full disclosure, I am a paid up card-carrying member of the Socialist Alliance, and a big old Red. That said, I am more of an AnCom than a Leninist/Trot.

Hawke/Keating aren't remembered as poorly as Thatcher, partially because they gave a pretty solid package of concessions ('The Social Wage'/The Accord, google it if interested) to the working class and the union movement. While I obviously oppose the neoliberal policies, they hit a lot softer here because of Labor's approach to implementing it. It's still class-collaboration, but the pragmatic side of me thinks it did achieve much better results.

Our Labor party consequently has a slightly better reputation for economic management (for instance, the Labor government's approach to the financial crisis actually saw us through it without going in to recession) than your Labour. Our Libs have also done some stuff historically that was batshit insane (look up "Fightback Manifesto" if you want a laugh - there's "sensible" austerity, which I disagree with but can see the call for -- but go a step further and you hit thoughtless ideolological economy-wrecking)

The ousting of Whitlam is viewed pretty dimly by just about everybody; conservative-movement nationalists (I count a few among my close friends, despite politics) see it as British-American meddling, lefties see it in a very poor light; the only people who see it positively or even neutrally are a few Quadrant-reading holdover Better Dead Than Red cold warriors.

Melbourne (even the nice parts) is shit. Niggers run rampant, judges let everyone out and the cops are faggots too busy fining people.

Government put 700 cops out in the bush to catch campers and dirt bike riders, instead of home invaders.

August 10, 2016
>Ex-Soldier fights back and disarms a home invader, taking away his plastic gun.
http://www.9news.com.au/national/2016/08/10/12/58/retiree-fights-back-during-home-invasion-south-of-melbourne

September 9, 2016
>2 armed men with guns invade home, bash man and shoot him in the leg.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/man-shot-in-leg-during-home-invasion-in-brunswick-west/news-story/14bf18fbd2f023c8d00dd258f75870b4

September 16, 2016
>Man breaks into woman's home and sexually assaults her. Steals car and goes on a police chase eventually crashing the car and totalling it at 160km/h
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/melbourne-home-invasion-womans-horror-at-living-nightmare/news-story/e8799cfb2ab93a04ff7cd186610d4ae8

November 24, 2016
>Police officer stabbed in his home between the eyes by twice bailed teen. Teenager given bail AGAIN. His car stolen.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/long-recovery-awaits-cop-this-teen-allegedly-knifed-in-face-during-home-invasion-20161124-gswpdc.html

January 12, 2017
>Family's home in port melbourne invaded, threatened with an axe and bashed. Mercedes stolen.
http://www.3aw.com.au/news/3aw-mornings-hears-details-of-terrifying-home-invasion-at-port-melbourne-20170112-gtpz6o.html

March 19, 2017
>Cranbourne home gets door shot down by home invaders. Man barely escapes the volley.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/armed-gang-fires-shot-through-front-door-of-cranbourne-home-20170319-gv1c4i.html

>>128260296
Chinese believe that adrenaline improves the taste of meat.

March 20, 2017
>Father bashed and shot after protecting his teenage daughter and her friends from potentially being raped by home invaders.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/melbourne-dad-had-guns-pointed-at-him-in-attempted-home-invasion/news-story/c77e9218d09dc449f9b360e0f6831fde?nk=4c79d86d1b149d537547d9137e81644b-1495028961

March 30, 2017
>Greensborugh woman threatened with gun and machete, forced to hand over cash and cars.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/greensborough-woman-wakes-to-armed-men-standing-over-her-demanding-cash-in-home-invasion/news-story/fc9a8953995c7e94846967984fe36405?nk=4c79d86d1b149d537547d9137e81644b-1495028558

April 14, 2017
>Child has gun pointed at her head and asked if she wants to "die tonight"
https://au.news.yahoo.com/nsw/a/35040364/eleven-year-old-girl-threatened-with-gun-during-home-invasion-in-whalan-western-sydney/#page1

April 15, 2017
>Man attacked with machete in his own home. 6 armed offenders.
http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/man-hurt-in-vic-machete-in-home-invasion/news-story/9b4633f6f04302599bd5da1d8bd1f364

May 10, 2017
>Family attacked in their home. African men go into 5 year old daughter's room and almost rape her, one talks the others out of it. They steal the family's car and crash it during a police chase. All were out on bail. After the incident, 2 were given bail.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/a/35389221/melbourne-family-wake-up-to-african-gang-in-their-home/#page1

May 15, 2017
>Pre-dawn raid in tarneit with multiple homes smashed up, shooting and bashing.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/attack-in-conway-street-tarneit-man-shot-three-other-people-injured-20170515-gw5j6d.html

May 16, 2017
>Woman bashed in home, car stolen in hillside.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/woman-bashed-in-terrifying-hillside-home-invasion/news-story/0532c1c14b45da2a5fa69c81c4898453


I HAVE MORE OF THIS. ENOUGH TO FILL HUNDREDS OF POSTS. EVERY NIGHT THERE ARE MULTIPLE VIOLENT INCIDENTS.

>>128260449
Chinese who sell street food believe it has to be fresh, else customers go elsewhere.

>>128259799
It's weird since I make the Blair association for Hawke and Keating (I've even heard Clinton's New Democrats and in turn Blair's New Labour were actually inspired by them.) but everyone here has the good grace to realize Blair was a terrible PM. (If only for Iraq and immigration.)

Pretty miserable to realize (even if it was always implicitly known) how global the neoliberal turn was. Carter/Reagan felt much more distant by merit of being American, Australia and NZ are close enough to bring it home a bit. (Particularly in the sense of inevitability, since in NZ it was national who held against it to their dying breath and Labour seemed to do a far faster neoliberal turn than even in Australia, and then nearly immediately National took up the Baton.)

>>128260416
Interesting stuff, although I have to ask if
>actually saw us through it without going in to recession
wasn't just delaying the inevitable (since my understanding, gleaned at least from Steve Keen and being willing to believe, is that the Australian housing market is still in a bubble. Then again, we went into a recession and ours almost certainly is, so it's really a choice whether to take the fish oil with sugar or without if so...)

Is Labor just out of power because of the Rudd/Gillard infighting, or is there a deeper reason to the Liberals having power right now?


And cheers to both of you for entertaining my questioning, of course.

>>128260458

THE LUCKY COUNTRY

>>128260776
Labor's gone so insane they've alienated the left.

The liberals get votes because they're the only remotely reasonable party capable of winning (sadly).

See those 2 posts i made above about melbourne crime. It's not just right wing people who are angry as shit. Lefties are furious because the greens teamed up with loggers and the ALP. Lefties are mad because the judges let an actual homophobic/racist gang out bashing people go free, to hurt a ton more minorities.

Our judges are so pathetic.

Oh and nanny stating. Non stop infringements on people's day to day freedoms has alienated a lot of people away from the left.

>>128260047
Wtf. He opened up the joint to globalisation. He's just another slut. He does get a lot of respect though. I respect him for basically having no respect for the population even though he was PM. It's an important thing that you need to be a good leader imo. Especially when you're dealing with idiots like Australians.

>>128260416
Little addendum: Looking up the social wage gave me https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prices_and_Incomes_Accord which is quite interesting, since our Labour government tried something similar but more lukewarm: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Contract_(Britain)

That actually leaves me wondering a bit if Australia wasn't just vanilla neoliberalism, since it seems closer to our SDP contextually. (Although that's a bit sad, since usually one of the "roads not taken" is price-and-income-controls + post keynesian sort of thinking, but apparently they slot into neoliberal-transition just as well.)


>>128260983
At least people are mad, I suppose. They're more subdued here.
>Non stop infringements on people's day to day freedoms has alienated a lot of people away from the left.
Ah, I'd forgotten about the great E-barrier reef plans. 2008 almost feels like yesterday when you think about it, I was well paranoid they were going to do something similar here. (Instead they've just decided to let us view what we want, so long as it's not a torrent site, but take a note of it and let nearly anyone working in the public sector ask to see it...)

>>128260776
Well as I said the 80s was a really good decade for Australia, so they get a pass, even though they implemented the main changes to get globalisation/neoliberalism occurring.

Most people blame Howard for the big change, even though it was Labor that started it. The mid to late 90s was when things started to get ugly. Boomers started becoming pigs, the young became overconfident and deranged.

>>128261264
It's not just the big things. It's endless regulations on everything, such as licenses to pick up firewood that's fallen on the floor if you go camping.

Chainsaw license.

You have to do a OH and S course at a tafe to legally use a ladder over 2m.

Everyone is at breaking point on this nanny stating, left or right....it's 5% of the population needing to control every aspect of our lives and we're fed up.

>>128260983
I can see it happening. They let more and more nigs in. Eventually we get for profit prisons like in the US.

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>>128261435

Agree. Socialistfag here, and a lot of people on the (social movement/union/far) left are really pissed off with this.

People I know are suggesting that we return safety back to a union duty (rather than State legisliation), because "hey shop steward, I think this is unsafe, can we fix it?" is a much better process than having some bureaucrat with no work experience come around and say "oh my heavens, that ladder looks unsafe, we should instate a $2000 ladder licence and a two week ladder course".

>>128259494
>chinks
>in auspol

fuck off

>>128262142
Agreed, i think EVERYONE but the bureaucrats themselves fucking detests bureaucracy.

It's a kafkaesque nightmare in this country right now and we all should work on cutting the cancer out and then getting back to fighting amongst ourselves.

It's making it such a fucking shitty place to live for everyone, in so many little ways.

Lads, I need help getting a job. I don't like being a parasite on the taxpayer.

Our enemies Trojan horsed our retarded politicians using their greed as the lure.

>>128262364
camwhore

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>>128262364

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSqX5rDhl8o

Don't feel too bad comr8, it's all mathematics.

We've got about 200k job vacancies (source: ABS) at any given time, with 500k jobseekers plus 500k disability-recognised jobseekers (so can live on disability pension, but, like you, are seeking work so as to avoid parasitism).

It is fucking hard to fit 200k jobs into 1 million people. So keep looking for work, don't give up, but don't feel too bad about it personally or ethically.

The ruling class (including their bought-and-sold governments, corporate donors and Old Boy networks) have made their bed and ordered us to sleep in it, so let's not blame ourselves.

bonus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Srkm5oWFwiQ (do they owe us a living? of course they do, they made the system we live in)

>>128262845
You actually think those jobs are there? Those are put up as a formality so they can say no one is taking the job so I guess I'll have to ask my cuz in India.

Its a major scam and our entire political state is corrupt.

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People that hurt, kill or eat dogs should be shot

>>128263039

I don't even trust those stats, but it's hard to argue with normies about it. Trying to fit five people into one job is hard enough rhetorically that I don't bother about going into conspiracism when the official figures are already fucking dire.

The system is corrupt as fuck.

thread still live?

>CRIMES ACT 1958 - SECT 45
>S. 45(4)(c) amended by No. 2/2006 s.9(1).
>"""
>(c) the accused satisfies the court on the balance of probabilities that he or she believed on reasonable grounds that he or she was married to the child.

this is the real shit boys.
I've got a printed, highlighted copy
I'm taking that shit to my senator as soon as he's in town
if you don't have the legislative calendar bookmarked your a RPer.
Basically everyone in this thread has good ideas and good arguments.
Let's make it happen.
Red-pill your senator. make the appointment. make them listen. Make them negotiate with the truth. They will lose.

>>128263509
Yep. And as i said last thread, no, federal law does NOT supercede it.

Federal law only prevents you marrying a child in australia. These muslims marry overseas, come here and then they can exploit this loophole to LEGALLY HAVE A CHILD BRIDE.

It's important you understand this is what bureaucracy gives us. Bureaucracy, nanny stating....it enables these evil fucks to hide in the shadows.

>>128263671
wouldn't the feds be able to prosecute the moment ahmed leaves victoria with his child bride?

>>128263039
this cunt gets it. the americans do the same thing.

>>128263855
Yes, but in victoria he is free to fuck her. Legally.

Achmed (and possibly politicians or pedo judges) can legally fuck 12 year olds in victoria due to this loophole. This is what bureaucracy does and why it needs to fucking go NOW.

All this nanny stating shit is connected. It may not seem like the road rules are connected to a ban on firewood, but they are.

>More people required to enforce
>More paperwork
>More random crimes to make law abiding citizens into criminals
>More tax money needed (which can later be stolen)
>More room for sick fucks to hide and push all sorts of agendas

Bureaucracy must go, it's at the root of a NUMBER of evils plaguing our country. We need to stamp it out, then we can go after the evil fucks hiding within.

Like cockroaches when you turn the light on.

>>128263100
People that hurt, kill or eat cows should be shot

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Oi lads.

Fucking shit head hitler loving bogan ere.

Drinkin me Toohey's watching the dog hump the cat.

Needin a root wif me neighbour soon.

Cheers Anons

>>128264143
fuck off you dumb cunt seppo

>>128264201
Nah, go fuck yourself. Faggot.

>>128264051
>It may not seem like the road rules are connected to a ban on firewood
ban on firewood?

>>128259546
You know those animal torture gifs used to make me sick. Now I feel nothing. What have I become POL?

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>>128264248
>hurr durr cows and dogs are equivalent

>>128264341
http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/big-shiver-tipped-after-clampdown-on-wood-collection/news-story/f39018321345dea89e127d4b4d90737f?nk=4c79d86d1b149d537547d9137e81644b-1496489320

>ALP teams up with loggers and the greens to push a ban on people picking up fallen wood
>They must now buy it from a store or have a license
>Campers pissed
>Lefties pissed
>Old people who use wood to heat their home pissed
>Bushfire risk increased

Want to know what's worse? They recently sent 700 cops away from melbourne to go into the bush and enforce this, plus fine dirt bike riders.

While a home invasion crimewave is going on (as i have explained above if u scroll up)

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>>128264463
KEk

>>128264468
They are both edible. Quit being a faggot.

>>128264508
do these people want another black saturday?

>>128264675
Perhaps, there could be some jew goal here to make money off another bushfire.

Anyway, just one of many nightmarish scenarios cooked up by bureaucrats. Everyone, left or right has incentive to get these fucks out of our country.

We need to cut the nanny state. Everyone hates it but the fucks working for it.
And if we cut the tumor out, it would encourage more companies to hire more people because less paperwork, so more jobs.

Also less shitty crap ruining people's day to day lives and less sick fucks like those vic pedos getting away with it.

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>>128264628
so are children you fuckhead, edibility doesnt mean you should eat the thing, what retarded kind of point is that

>>128264908
Youll get a prion disease eating people, you retard.

>>128263855
Its called 457 here.

>>128259618

fuck dogs. they shit everywhere.

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KEK

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4509304/Brisbane-chef-transgender-sex-worker-gruesome-murder.html

gas the gooks

>>128265067
dont eat the brain then lel. just fuck off outta the thread you dog hating faggot.

>>128257295
>>Australia's Loyalties Are Shifting From The U.S. To China

i dont agree with what they say at the end of this article. even if the u.s. was the one to provoke china into a war over disputed waters, australia would still side with america every time.

>>128265067
only eating brain tissue champ

>>128259360
Keating is the king of banter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1Ivp-A413A

>>128265316
I don't hate dogs. I love dogs, in fact. I just hate faggots like you that cry about people eating them. There is no actual reason not to eat them.

Inb4 MUH PUPPERDOG

>>128265870
t. some chink

Moving to tas at the end of the year. Thinking remote sou-west? Any ideas lads?

>>128265870
>dogs have been our companions for 30,000 years
>cows have been our food for 10,000 years
>no difference between the two
europeans have never eaten dogs, people that do are sub-human scum.

>>128266150
Have you ever been there? the south west is a post-mining wasteland.

>>128265870
You generally don't want to eat animals that also eat animals. Easy way to get all kinds of nasty parasites.

>>128266224
The Swiss eat dogs.

>>128266238
So no people? Awesome.

And no, have not been there but if its void of people im keen. Maybe i can start a bunny ranch with some gook sloots

>>128266321
>people that do are sub-human scum
like i said

>>128266502
Theres people, but they have no jobs, it's very rough.

>>128266862
No jobs at all? Hunting and fishing tho?

>>128266924
I think the only thing they're fishing down there is meth.

>>128266992
Shiieeetttt. Where would you suggest? I want rural more than anything

>>128267065
If you want rural, anywhere between hobart and launceston in the centre, also on the outskirts of both cities.

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>>128265218
Wood smash

i am the most normie cunt in this thread

>>128266224
>europeans have never eaten dogs

i wouldnt bet on that. if someone in europe was starving and their dog was more helpful as food than as a companion i think the dog would be eaten.

>>128267603

gook
detected

Fuck this cold weather. Can you avoid it altogether by moving to tropical Queensland?

>>128266224
>europeans have never eaten dogs, people that do are sub-human scum.

https://munchies.vice.com/en_us/article/guess-what-europe-you-ate-dogs-too

>>128267278
I might take my chances with s-w of the island. Going fucking rouge on society anyway.

>>128267592
How normie are we talking?

>>128267893
>the spanish
subhumans

>>128268151
Visit first, I've been down a few times, the countryside is lovely and the scenery is awesome, but some of the small towns are rough as guts, regardless of that though, the two main cities Launceston and Hobart are really nice, I'm seriously considering moving down there just because house prices are so cheap, even the in the main cities and towns.

>>128268151
How much money do you have?

>>128268371
Yeah i was gonna go for a quick look-see late july for something to do. Im happy with rough as guts id rather that than fucking fraudulent insincere city faggotry.

>>128268375

About 20k in savings hopefully 30 by the end of the year and some entitlements due from a previous job that folded.

>>128267664

if you were starving and you had to choose between eating a dog or a human which one would you choose? id probably choose the dog.

>>128268689
So you are planning to rent?

>>128269149
Maybe at first. Would love enough room to make a go of farming. Im gonna get a few more tickets before i go, prob secy or traf control.

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Why are we putting up with the Sudanese menace? These fucking niggers should be killed in snuff films, like Hostel. Like torturing nigger babies with barbed wire and metal spikes. Like Event Horizon.

>>128271633
They should all be deported, they contribute absolutely nothing of value to society.

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They sure have assimilated

>>128257571
Patria AMV (right one)
It is a more proven design with more customers worldwide, allowing for cheaper spares due to economy of scale.

>>128273836
Every time I go to Pozzbourne I see more banks, real estate agencies, and telco shops with prominent Chinese advertising. Feels bad

any of you goyim bought rising storm 2? we should have a little /aus/pol party when they release the ANZAC forces

>>128276284
is it worth playing with australian internet on foreign servers? im imagining 300 ping.

>>128276284
>ANZAC forces
Since when?

>>128276504
when i played rising storm a few months ago there were plenty of Aus/NZ servers
i'd imagine its not something we'd have to deal with yet

>>128276504
there's actually a fuckload of Australian servers and players, I was surprised

>>128276614
not sure if it's confirmed or not but it's most likely happening

>>128260416
Thx for the essay Putin but you should probably get back to masturbating to the thought of a communist regime
Cunt

>>128276620
>>128276616

is it good?

>>128277131
ye m8 good fun

>>128277177
do people make fucked sounds when they die

>>128277592
ye m8 it's real fucked up but they're gooks so it's ok

>>128277592
A bit
why?
ur mommy will confiscate your computer again?

>>128262518

noone reeeally wants to get up and go to walk

soo, the smart people brought house after house, now they sleep in while the people who didnt buy all the properties get up and go to work to keep a roof over their damn head.

getting into the housing market is fucking impossible now if your starting out with nothing and working for your countrys min wage per h

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>>128278050
she might

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>i'm awake at 12:46 AM on a sunday reading Meditations

31. When you look at Satyron, see Socraticus, or Eutyches,
or Hymen.
When you look at Euphrates, see Eutychion or Silvanus.
With Alciphron, see Tropaeophorus.
When you look at Xenophon, see Crito or Severus.
When you look at yourself, see any of the emperors.
And the same with everyone else. Then let it hit you:
Where are they now?
Nowhere ... or wherever.
That way you’ll see human life for what it is. Smoke. Nothing. Especially when you recall that once things alter they cease to exist through all the endless years to come.
Then why such turmoil? To live your brief life rightly, isn’t that enough?
The raw material you’re missing, the opportunities ...!
What is any of this but training—training for your logos, in life observed accurately, scientifically.
So keep at it, until it’s fully digested. As a strong stomach digests whatever it eats. As a blazing fire takes whatever you throw on it, and makes it light and flame.

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>>128279391
I like that pic.

>>128279391
bit bloody easy for the richest cunt on the planet living in absurd luxury to say

>>128281404
have you read Meditations in full? it reads more like a man attempting to guide himself than a stuck up emperor. i find it very useful since it has a bunch of readily applicable advice, and if i need a bit of comfort and consolation i can bring out the whole "this bloke dominated almost all of the west for a long time, so you should listen" thing.

The despicable phoniness of people who say, “Listen, I’m going to level with you here.” What does that mean? It shouldn’t even need to be said. It should be obvious—written in block letters on your forehead. It should be audible in your voice, visible in your eyes, like a lover who looks into your face and takes in the whole story at a glance.
A straightforward, honest person should be like someone who stinks: when you’re in the same room with him, you know it.
But false straightforwardness is like a knife in the back.

False friendship is the worst. Avoid it at all costs. If you’re honest and straightforward and mean well, it should show in your eyes. It should be unmistakable.

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>>128282161
i was just being a cunt. i've not read him, but the stoics seem pretty based. i like the cato the elder and younger, they held to the traditional and true roman values. i can't get into the imperial age much, it reminds me too much of now, just a corrupt bloated mess of miserable shits living only for themselves while their culture and empire degrades and slowly crumbles into degeneracy. the mythologised early period, and men fought to create the empire were the best.

apparently aurelius was great as far as emperors go, but it's worth remembering he probably held 80% of the wealth of the entire mediterranean in his pockets, and was waited on by thousands of slaves. hard to believe anyone wouldn't be a total faggot living on top of all that.

>>128283165
>but the stoics seem pretty based.
they are.

And along with not getting angry at others, try not to pander either. Both are forms of selfishness; both of them will do you harm. When you start to lose your temper, remember: There’s nothing manly about rage. It’s courtesy and kindness that define a human being— and a man. That’s who possesses strength and nerves and guts, not the angry whiners. To react like that brings you closer to impassivity—and so to strength. Pain is the opposite of strength, and so is anger. Both are things we suffer from, and yield to.

. . . and one more thought, from Apollo:

x. That to expect bad people not to injure others is crazy. It’s to ask the impossible. And to let them behave like that to other people but expect them to exempt you is arrogant—the act of a tyrant.