This kills the atheist

>>128248223
How so?

>>128248331
It's a bacteria. Bacteria can kill you.
>American education

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>>128248524
Wow got us there

fuck this election for letting retards find this board

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>>128248223
>burgers are unironically creationists

>>128249064
>Bongs are unironically going to hell

>>128249742

They are already in bongistan though

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I think I hate pol now. maybe hot wheels Chan doesn't suck

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>>128249742
> burgers are unironically creationists
>>128249064
> Bongs are unironically going to hell

"This statement is the word of God." - Signed, Me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBqGOdx0tiQ

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>>128248223
>X is too complex to come from nothing but an all-powerful being who can create universes with the snap of a finger came from nothing

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>>128253634
>he thinks there was a beginning of god
>he thinks there will be an end of god

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>>128248223
W-what am I looking at?

>>128254029
Your atheist death.

>>128253925
such was not implied

>>128254085
And that is?

>>128248223
To be fair, it kills the rest of us, too

>>128253925
Then why did God even bother creating the limited dimension? It seems like unnecessary work.

>>128248223
Is this a picture of God?

>>128249064
I hate it.

>>128248223
salmonella can kill anyone

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>believing in ancient Jewish fairy tales instead of magic

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>>128249064
are you telling me God didn't create this?

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>>128248331
Liberal detected.

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>>128249064
>people are unable to understand things are intelligently designed, and if they are designed, they have a designer, and if they have a designer, and a design, than they have a purpose

WOW, LOOK, THIS PENTAGRAM CAME FROM RANDOMLY OUT OF THE BLUE.

>>128254418
Two humans created that

>>128254361
>ancient Jewish fairy tales
>not magic

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>>128254361
Magic is way more fun, my dude. Check em.

>>128254029
bacterial mobility system called "flagella"

basically a complex rotor thing that acts like a tail

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>>128254506
Reroll. If it don't for, force it.

>>128254361
>not pursuing your connection to God that dwells within you, so magic becomes useless.

>>128254451
As a Christian this is the worst argument for theism I've ever seen. Promptly kill yourself.

If Jesus isn't real how come I can turn into a Dinosaur?

>>128254494
Chicken and egg situation

>>128250023
That would be cruel and unusual for God to put them in hell after living in Bong

>>128254574
Then I guess picking up a tool and building something is useless. I guess writing computer software is useless. I guess having a family is useless. Take your nihilist views elsewhere.

>>128254551

Isnt that how sperm move as well?

>>128248223
The bacterial flagellar motor is pretty much just an atp synthase running in reverse with a tail stuck on it. It is not at all unique in function or complexity.

>>128254681
it actually comes down to what came first, protein or DNA.

>>128254609
>telling another christian to commit suicide
>still smelling like /r/atheism
go back to plebbit and league of legends you kiwi.

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>>128248223
>>128249742
>>128253925
>>128254085
>>128254451
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html
>this kills the creationist

>>128254716
yeah basically like a propeller

>>128254711
I told you magic is real.
I told you to check 'em >>128254506

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>>128249064
oh look, it's one of those morons who thinks evolution is proof that there is no God even though there is clearly a spontaneous backpropagation history generation algorithm operating at the quantum level for all particle events queued for completion that do not yet have a concrete explanation (the existence of this algorithm is indisputably proven by the delayed choice quantum eraser experiment) meaning God was able to easily create earth and its lifeforms with a few simple character and world builder tools 6000 years ago after which he tossed them in and let the backpropagation algorithm automatically turn the models into living creatures and generate a completely satisfactory false history of evolution, fossil records, planets, interstellar events, etc. stretching all the way back to the big bang. Yes, this fucking majestic property of the universe, proven by science to exist, is something we should ignore because a bong posted a jodie foster image. Two can play that game. Eat shit and die.

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>>128254711
magic is an abomination to the Great spirit who gives each person their souls. magic damages the soul anon.

you should focus on harnessing your chakras instead, each one is a wheel of infinite energy.

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>>128254716
sperm move by being squirted out of a dick or by being swallowed

sometimes both, AM I RIGHT CHOCHACHOS???????????

>>128248223
There's more chance that zillions of random atoms just fell together and created bacteria from nothing than of a three-faced cloud warlock ruling the galaxy.

>>128254551
and that is supposed to kill Atheists or what?

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>>128254501

They are weak magic. For an older age.

>>128254574

>connection to god
>doesn't understand he is god

https://youtu.be/SdwTwNPyR9w

Here is an explanation of it.

>>128254814
>http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html
>CA001. Evolution is the foundation of an immoral worldview.

LOL FUCKING AGREED.

yes evolution is a psy-op in order to give people the mentality of an animal.

thats pretty much why its a dirty jew lie.

>>128254942
DELETE THIS

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>>128254961
You know, if you click on that link, there's a refutation inside.
retard

>>128248223
I built a really complex machine this one time. So by your logic it follows I must be god.

>>128254863
Hold up wouldn't that make us the backpropograted false history of the people 6000 years in the future?

>>128248223
it also kills the jew worshiper.

>>128248223
Hey Ken Ham

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>>128255133
Ancient Kings where called Gods and Lived for Thousands of Years.

Wonder when folks will stop shooting off their mouths.

>>128248223
A better one would be DNA repair

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>>128254706
Don't know what you're on about.

>>128254937
Atman is Brahman the same way Brahman is Atman

Jesus is God the same time Jesus is his son.

Shiva is the father of vishnu, who is the father of brahma, who is the father of shiva, for shiva is his own great grandfather.

>doesn't understand God is a steppingstone
>doesn't understand that God is your brother.
>doesn't understand the responsibility of being God, and that you are created to play a game of hide and seek.

>>128255096
yeah, the refutation is a dirty jew lie in order to defend it, so what?

Evolution promotes animalistic behavior,

>Crime rates etc. have increased since evolution began to be taught.

this is actually true though, when the bible was banned from schools, and a new rhetoric was taught, crime dramatically increased.

>CA012. Evolutionists are intellectual snobs.
take a good look in the mirror, and the thread.

evolution is a load of crap.

>>128254961
Did humanity tought higher of itself in remote times?

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>>128255251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhE9vb-zKhE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z-OLG0KyR4

>There are staggering numbers of people who do not realize the banana, like all other domesticated fruit and grain and vegetables, is a bedrock solid example of human manipulated natural selection in action and will swallow this video hook line and sinker

It's quite depressing

I'm more a fan of that one guy who conducted an experiment with lasers and mirrors and deduced from it that reality is in fact a simulation and we're all essentially Second Life avatars

>>128255133
Nothing humans have built even compares to anything in nature. Our computers are like little toys compared to a brain.

>>128255251
>CRISPR
Still not impressed.

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>>128254961
If you lose heart and descend into apathy and nihilism by just learning about evolution and having your faith in your divine origin challenged, maybe you were unsalvageable trash in the first place.

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>>128255360
>Did humanity tought higher of itself in remote times?

I believe so, I wonder what would happen to the world if everyone understood they were a direct and deliberate creation of God, and how different my life would have been of I was taught this, or understood this from the start.

>>128254886
Then why did the great spirit give us magic? Checkmate, yuppyists.

>>128255435
well, I never had faith, nor was I taught I had a divine origin in the first place.

see >>128255454

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD8SN6y7k90

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>>128255500

>>128248223
so let me get this straight, because this bacteria is "omg so complex", there's no way it could've evolved on it own and it must be the work of god. Did I get that right?

Can someone explain why its impossible for bacteria to evolve to be this complex then?

>>128254910
Numbers that appear large to us are tiny to the universe.

>>128254240
Because in order for God to be truly omnipotent he requires both limitations and no limitations simultaneously. The limited dimension is the limited aspect of the unlimited omnipotent singularity.

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>>128255492
he didn't there's a big difference between sorcery, and mysticism. and the difference is the direction of where you are pulling energy. t he great spirit did not give us magic, he gave us infinite possibilities, the sons of pride that rebelled against him gave him magic

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Atheism is a phase. Sort of like being a pothead. Just pray for them; they're inexperienced!

>>128255290
I love this type of house. Where is it and what is it called?

All this proves is evolution you dumb fuck

>>128255564
You have to remember that the earth is only 6000 years old and fossils and radiocarbon dating are merely elaborate tests that were created to weed out the easily deceived and impure from the true believers, anon

There's no way that could have arrived naturally inside of 6000 years, it was clearly an act of god

>>128255661
>against him gave him magic

gave us*******

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>>128254942

HOLY FUCK BOSTON STARTS PLAYING
I lost it drunk as hell. I remind myself of my dad.

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>>128248223
Flagella are really neat, it's one of the very few rotary/wheellike organs in nature.

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>>128255564
Explain this then.

>>128255527
what did you mean by this.

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>it's impossible for a species to change over time

it literally happens every year with influenza.

>>128255661
So who cares if a car is gas or electric if it gets me from point A to B?

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>>128248828

>>128255699
It's a Tudor era half timbered thatched cottage.....

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Why didn't OP bother explain his point?

If any of the 42 proteins in the flagellum were missing, the entire thing would cease to function. The implication is that a non-working half-tail is more of a hindrance than not having a tail at all, ergo, if any species started developing tails they would be outclassed by other species, and the flagellum is too complex to appear from a simple mutation

>>128248223
> I will try the watchmaker argument for the 231244535 time
> gets a lot of (you)
> it was a success will do the same tomorrow.

>>128255661
Look, I challenge you to a psychic battle right now. Nothing too serious, but I will go first. Prepare yourself. It begins when you finish reading this.

>>128248331
they believe that all of that existing is just a coincidence.

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>>128255944
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMaZ_9qz6AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2CDzMtIk0U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaHbuaED5Tw

www.liveleak.com/c/adrenochrome

>>128255564
You have to think. Can it really be a coincidence that, in the case of a universe primarily governed by chaotic forces, such a thing could exist within a random spectrum of development?

>>128248223

Its a couple proteins away from a virus injector. Youre an idiot. Its literally more proof for evolution.

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>>128255944
there is no point B to travel to, there is only point A.

the spirits from magic are unclean.

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>>128255850
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sryNbaDJRlI

>>128256070
You must he an "intelligent design" homo.

Once you realize the world is older than 5000 years you will realize even such a 'simple" bacteria is the consequence of evolution

>>128256070
Rubbing steel against a stone and getting a sharp edge isn't a coincidence.

>>128256071
I saw that FBI one before. Pretty crazy. Neat to watch. What a stupid way to die though huh? Imagine being tortured to death by Satanic autists.

>>128256052
I hope that guy is preparing. I'm hitting him with something big.

>>128248524

A BACTERIUM you fat subliterate piece of shit

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>>128256126
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC0FW407FVs

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>>128256234
they prey on the homeless and children any resistance and they run.

low down cowards and poisoners.

I find it funny when retards posts threads like this thinking that some retarded bacteria virus or an insect is a complicated design when in fact compared to any avian mamal or even a lizard theyre extremely basic and simple organisms

The appriopriate thing would be posting human brain instead of this retarded shit.

Then again anyone who thinks that shoving religion down other people throats on a chinese fortune cookie trading forum is a good idea is indeed a person of less than average intellect

>>128254451
but they aren't designed tho

or maybe by like god's intern or some shit, because some of the designs are pretty fucking stupid. have you seen the human eye?

>>128256234
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22Tj_l4PcPs

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>>128255699
Here, have another one, the roofs are made of straw.

>>128256007
What about endosymbiosis? Could flagella have originally been bacteriophages?

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>>128256409
The Human Eye is perfect because it supports every other kind of Optic.

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>>128248223

Most people can't grok deep time, so God seems a more reasonable answer.

>>128249742
why are christians so militant when it comes to religion?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scXJfeiErS8

>>128256467
>t. oculist

>>128255751
Literally all evidence proves that the Earth is older than 6000 year
There's literally forests older than your earth.

Carbon age testing is perfect scientific tool proven near perfect. Holy cow how can fossils be older than 6000 year if the Earth didn't exist?

Also it's funny how your religion is the exact same as the religion you were born into and grew up with. Not the religion on the other side of the planet. Nope, your religion is the correct one.

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>>128256533
>grok big time

Go look up the people living 3.3 million years ago.

>Some of them are still around.

>>128256557
Excuse Me?

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>>128249742
>God made people to burn them in fire for eternity if they don't literally believe 100% of certain ridiculous Jewish fairy tales from 4 thousand years ago but only those specific fairy tales

>>128256467
every kind of optic not backwards maybe

>>128256409
well, the gnostic gospels tend to indicate the human body was made by a collection of demonos.

one of the most interesting observations i made to this is that a demon named "achiel" made the right ankle, which is kind of spooky because of Achilles, who lost his right ankle basically.

and it was made in the image of something greater they had seen.

>>128256537
They're not, really. They just have conviction. Muslims are militant.

>>128256537
It's the jewhustle, man.
>>128256533
SANITY
>>128256621
>fedora on
it was antiqued
>fedora off

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>>128256662
are you telling me you shoved a pair of night vision goggles up your arse ?

Bacteria are among the oldest forms of life, they've had 2 billion years to get to this point. People who say it's 'all random' and 'coincidence' are either trolling or plain ignorant of the mechanisms within evolutionary theory.

Anywau, the alternative, that god spent a lot of time tinkering to make such complex obscure things, is a bit bizarre, and diminishes him from being some grand, overseeing creator.

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>>128256634

>3.3 million years ago
>deep time

pick one

Threadly reminder that the universe has no beginning or end because time didn't exist before it and won't exist after it.

>>128256673
wait a greater ankle that they had seen?

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This is now a quaint cottage thread.

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>>128256533
>hindus unironically think the earth is 155 trillion years old
>what did they mean by this

also that looks a lot like the tower of babel.

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God Killed a bunch of people in the past 3 years in totally paranormal circumstances.

>>128256756
nice way to queue what I stated.

You do realize I made no mention to however long or short it was the only thing I have stated Unequivocally is that the Universe is Infinite and Eternal.

>>128254863
Damn, was that sentence Kenyan?

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>>128256785
made the body...

>>128256694
>muslims are militant
seems to be a trend in Judaism

>>128256889
I'm kinda confused.

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>>128256801
Tea & scones with cream.

>>128256467
Humans have pretty big design flaws. Temples on your skull are rhe most vulnerable part and for some reason have the most bloodvessels.
Kidneys are positioned so retardedly that a single proper punch can kill you. All the useless hair which is just the organism wasting nutrients and energy. Nails which again waste nutrients and energy and are an innefective self defense tool compared toto say a cats nails. Extremely open neck where again a single solid punch can kill you. You can drive someones nose up their brain with a proper punch too. Alot of other animals absorb their menstruation blood back into rhe system so they dont waste nutrients. Our young are probably the weakest in the whole world. Male sexual organs could have actually been positioned inside (the balls) providing atleast some protection. Altrough I supppse every mammal suffers from this. And theres plenty more why humans as an organism are far from perfect if not outright retarded

>>128256405
Very true Mario
>>128256621
>Le fedora may may
*Yawns*
*Sips tea*
*Laughs about your post*
*Posts about it on Facebook*
*Make post on Reddit atheism*
*Get upboats*
*Tell the girl of my life I love her, she accepts*
*Tell her about your post, she laughs*
*Get children, tell them about your post, they laugh*
*Almost die, tell people about your post in my deathbed, people laugh*
*After I'm dead my will gets read to my children*
*It's your post, everyone laughs*

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>>128248223
the only argument you need agaisnt an atheist is flat earth. cannot be disproven, is in the bibler, and spherecuckoldry earth followers have been debunked time and time again

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>>128256973
why u think we breedin it out earfling

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>>128254451
>WOW LOOK THIS PENTA[GON] CAME FROM RANDOMLY OUT OF THE BLUE

Gee it's almost like there's some kind of incredibly well understood MECHANISM that caused this pentagon to come about. Hmm Maybe order does not need a creator, only a mechanism.

>>128256933
>well, the gnostic gospels tend to indicate the human body was made by a collection of demonos.

well you wouldn't be if you read the entire post.

>and it was made in the image of something greater they had seen.

>they
tends to indicate more than 1.

>>128257008
animals can speak, it says so in the jungle book

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>>128256965
Cucumber sandwiches & cricket on the village green.

>>128256761
The cyclic universe theory is my personal favorite.

>>128257100
Seems like a pretty impressive mechanism to me. I wonder who created it?

>>128257205
seems to be the fluctuations of a high entropy universe residing within a low entropy one.

>>128257008
How does gravity work in flat earth?

>>128257084
niggah i'll just jump into my robotic frame once the tech is ready.

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>>128257263
it literally doesn't exist.

>>128257205
heh.

About as impressive as things falling down when you drop them, but sure. If someone wants to believe that there's a magical angry cloud man inventing a couple fundamental forces, whatever, I don't really mind.

>>128257355
And yet stuff sticks to the ground, is it magic?

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>>128257263
holy fucking shit do we need another flat earth thread on this board? how fucking retarded are you

>>128257169
I grew up in a village like that.

>>128254863
[Citation Needed]

>>128257205
and so the christian argument repeats ad infinitum, with the delightful catch of the shape shifting and unprovable god

>>128248223
>still an atheist

>>128256973
Having your balls inside is suicide for your fertility because the sperm no likey that temperature.

Without that Neck you couldnt look around properly

We are already on our way of losing the hair that we got from our ancestor DNA.

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>>128257169
Picking wild brambles to for homemade jam.

>>128257355
I literally did the Cavendish experiment in second year astrophysics. Everyone does it, it isn't even that hard. Gravity exists, and is proportional to the masses, and inversely to the square of the radius between the point masses.

Literally 200 year old experiment. Flat-Earthers are retarded.

>>128257361
>innert matter becoming self replicating molecules, evolving for billions of years into self aware organisms housing the most advanced machine in the known universe is about as impressive as things falling down when you drop them
Are atheists mentally handicapped?

>>128255315
>evolution is the dirty jew lie
>not the literal jewish fairytale

sort yourself out please

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>>128257494
stuff floats too, its a matter of buoyancy and atmospheric pressure.

the average PSI is 14.

take 3 rooms

a room that's vacuum sealed, a room with 14 PSI, and a room with 200,000 PSI and drop a ball, and a feather

in the vacuum room the ball and feather falls at the same rate, in the 14 PSI the ball drops regularly and the feather floats down, in the 200,000 PSI the ball and the feather float because they are not strong enough to push the density of the air.

if I took an apple, and without changing its weight, but changes its atomic density to match the feather, it would match the feather when it falls.

>>128255852
>calm see
>made it out this far

how do you manage to sink?

>>128256409
eyes are fucking amazing. field-corrected achromatic optics with well-tuned focal length, the multi-element path leading from the cornea to the lens has a near perfect IOR gradient to minimize back-reflection, and the photoreceptor elements are distributed naturally in a near-perfect response-surface to the slight chromatic aberration that's unavoidable as a consequence of having such a small system built from purely organic components. nothing retarded about it, just your lack of appreciation for it.

slight mishaps aside, it's amazing that it works at all in the first place.

t. AMO physicist who worked on a bio project as a consult

that being said I believe in evolution, so, yeah.

>>128257737
Not handicapped enough to lack an understanding of probability and large numbers.

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>>128257752
God is not so dull that he would only speak to One Tribe in the middle east.

the lessons are the same when you remove the idols.

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>>128257796
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYz6qMbWpAw

>>128257914
He knows his district and mostly stuck to it.

>>128257796
If these are nignog "migrants" in the Mediterranean, then it's because they sink their own boats.

>>128256973
I'm no physician, but from what I've read on the internet, whenever someone starts pointing out the human body's design flaws, there's a ton of replies showing that person how those "flaws" have benefits.
When even the most educated among us know so little about the human body, it's meaningless for us uneducated people (I'm assuming you're not a doctor or molecular biologist or something) to go looking for design flaws.
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>>128257722
Scrumping for apples before elevenses.

>>128257737
Well yeah... Gravity is the only fundamental force that we don't thoroughly understand. Evolution on the other hand, we understand completely.

So really, things falling down is waaaaaay more interesting than evolution. Life is really just the same simple process iterated every ~30 minutes for 4 billion years, parallelized over trillions of organisms at every single stage. It really isn't any surprise that the result is extremely complex.

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>>128258025
Listening to the sex pistols & sniffing glue.

Atheism is an epistemic position the belief or non belief in a god. You are either atheist or theist. Agnosticism is an epistemic position on knowing god exists or not. You are either agnostic or gnostic.

Burden of proof is who has the duty to prove a point. Gnostic theists have burden's of proof on both their positions because they are actively making a claim. Agnostic Atheists have no burden of proof, because they are not actively claiming anything, they are simply unconvinced a god exists. They can also be unconvinced that a god definitely does not exist.

Gods by definition are supernatural, so any claims about their existence is untestable. So there is no reason to move off the neutral position of Agnostic Atheist. Anyone who claims to know there is or isn't a god for sure is selling you a pile of crap. Anyone who claims the neutral position isn't Agnostic Atheist, doesn't understand logic.

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>>128257945
so pretty much all animal sacrifice was done to a monotheistic god, and it was done for the repentance of sins.

the 4 vedas have the same rules for animal sacrifice as the torah does, and Jesus Christ unironically met all the "kosher" rules that is required of animal sacrifice.

in a lot of history, human sacrifice to false gods as been part of it, but Jesus Christ is a human sacrifice to Mankind from the True God. when you encounter a lesson where it says that God is willing to die for you, and to look within yourself for God, and the kingdom of heaven, to repent and turn away from sin, to sort yourself out, these are lessons from the true God.

>>128257732
here' this picture is for you.

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>This was made through a billion years of evolution in an uncaring universe
OR
>Sky daddy who loves everyone made it
Either way you should be a little worried

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>>128258155
Oops, how did that one get in there ?

>>128257717
The neck could have far more muscles or be forward like on 4 legged mammals. The semen could have been "designed" to withstand the 2 extra degrees. While we are loosing hair atm its still an extreme waste of organisms resources.

>>128258444

You do realize that your aversion is pure bias

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>>128258035
> Evolution on the other hand, we understand completely.

>oi vey goyim, this T-rex turned into a chicken, ignore horseshoe crabs, coelacanth, sharks, and whales which have gone largely unchanged for millions of years.

>Well yeah... Gravity is the only fundamental force that we don't thoroughly understand.

it literally doesn't exist, see. >>128257783

>>128255765
This thread reminds me of Spore. The cell stage at least, that was the best part of the game.

Though I do kinda remember that game with rose tinted glasses, as it was a favorite to play when I was first coming up on a mushroom or lsd or 2c-I trip.

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>>128258507
Playing poohsticks & feeding the ducks.

>>128258592
if to bugs, its actually genetic. put a cucumber next to a cat and it freaks the fuck out because it thinks it is a snake. humans are afraid of bugs for a good reason. one bite and you could lose a limb, its use of it, or be in severe pain for days. when life was not so easy, that would cause an easy death.

i could go on the beach and find a random rock. and in my mind come to the conclution that this rock is the most beautiful, amazing, fantastic rock that has ever excisted. i could conclude that this rock must have been designed to look and be that way. and if it has a design it must have an intelligent designer. specifically more intelligent than human.

now we really arrive at the human fallacy. the reason we believe in god is out of vanity. humans are humans because we adapted to the earth. but humans are vain and want to be special. we don't want to admit we were made from dirt. so we make the creator myth so that we can say we were created/designed by a higher being and is adapting to that higher being rather than to earthly things. just remember that the same people saying these things are the people who will promise you enternal life in heaven, they tell you that your sins can be forgiven by somebody who you cant talk to or even see (rather than get forgiveness from fellow humans). they tell humans are special and god told the angels to bow to us. they are not humble. they are vain and doesn't want to accept life's bounderies and that humans aren't some special entity for whom the world was created. a belief system like this will always have customers but will always self destruct.

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>>128256119
I really don't understand this false dichotomy that has been debated for so long now. Why is it creation vs evolution?

They're part and parcel together, evolution is the how, not the what/why. It has made perfect sense to me for a long time that evolution is the How of God's push and pull over the span of eons, at least in the context of developing his creation.

This is like the Big Bang vs creation argument, it is almost non-sequitur to me; we are simply able to observe elements of the creation around us as we experience it first person.

Liken it to a game of Age of Empires, or (insert your preferred RTS here), where you play the role as god and see the troops and buildings as parts of the evolving whole, not unlike ants, but you have the distinction to 'care' about groups of them based on your value system, like "these tanks kick more ass than those troops over there". We ARE the troops, we are the first person experience of that ongoing 'rts' that God plays.

>>128257965
Im a paramedic and 4th course med student.
The human organism is simply flawed as shit just like every other living thing. It could be upgraded definetely without any actual downsides except looking ugly for normal humans.
Then theres the shitty little organ called spleen which ruptures like it is its main function. This organ is the main reason why people die from internal bleeding after accidents or experiencing shockwaves from explosive weapons. Sure it has its functions but if we humans were so ebin of a design like all the religionfags pretend it could have been a diffrent organ or places elsewhere or be more robust

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>>128258777
Stop teasing the cat & come in for your tea & crumpets.

>>128258777

That's not the same as being worried that it exists. Caution is healthy, but I don't think cats lose sleep over the existence of snakes

>>128258861
>we don't want to admit we were made from dirt
except the bible literally says we were made from dirt

>>128248331
>filament

>>128248223
I mean do I expect /pol/tards to know biology?
The idiots do believe in race "realism" and that there are only two genders.
Literally can't even be bothered to honestly research the topic but will shit their opinion all over the web

>>128258861
>>128259129
I think being made out of clay is a lot more impressive, and plausible than being life being a tragic accident that "evolved"

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>>128259054
Collecting kindling to put in the stove, oh look Mrs Miggins has left a basket of eggs !

>>128256405
Infinite levels of complexity all within perfect scalability.

Implies a creator, in my humble opinion.

>>128259129
dirt = human
dirt + god = human

>>128259287

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXuTt7c3Jkg

>>128256405
there are hundreds of thousands of machines that build single cells inside out. literally hundreds of thousands.

>>128259287

>>128259287
I disagree. But lets pretend that I agree to this.
So was it budha? Allah? Jesus? Ra? Dzeus? Bored aliens? One of the 10 thousand forgotten gods and religions?

>>128257857
I mean, even just think about being able to focus on something right in front of you, then immediately switch focus to something 40 yards out. With an accurate picture... not as sharp as an eagle, sure, but sharp enough to kill a man with a proper projectile.

Your brain sends signals to your eyes to make minute shifts to see, in real time. I love music, but Lord take my ears before eyes.

>>128259221
why is it tragic? and let say life can seem tragic. isn't that consistent with evolution. we have animals that involved over 100000's or millions of years get extinct in 100 or less years because of humans. you could say it's tragic but then again it's how it goes in life.

this "argument" was btfo ages ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District

>>128258861
>i could conclude that this rock must have been designed to look and be that way
>actually comparing human beings to rocks
If the rock starts talking to you or painting the Sistine Chapel, then yeah, it'd be logical to conclude that it was designed.
Have any of you atheists ever designed and built something? A ridiculous number of things can and do go wrong, even with an actual intelligent creator with foresight such as a human being. We have an organ like the brain, an arrangement of atoms that is "self aware", an organ which we STILL know almost nothing about, and atheists seem to think it's completely plausible for such an organ and all its support systems that work together perfectly, to come about out of a few billion years of successful random mutations.
Now I'm not saying biological complexity is proof of an intelligent creator, I'm just saying it's not as cut and dry as some would have you believe.

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>>128259451
a facetious tantrum of an argument in fallacious understanding is childish.

>>128257965
>Have wisdom teeth
>Get a gum infection
>Die because you live before antibiotics
>Easy solution, in a few hundred generations your descendants are starting to lose their wisdom teeth. Some people have only one set instead of two, many people never grow them at all. The genes for their expression are selected against.

>Get a broken rib
>Broken piece digs into your chest and barely misses your heart, luckily you survive
>But you suddenly can't speak at all, because your recurrent laryngeal nerve separates from your vagus nerve and then runs back up to where the vagus nerve started, because that made sense in fish which didn't have necks.
>Die because you can't effectively communicate during an attack by another warring tribe
>Descendants still have this problem because there is no small change in gene expression which can rewire your entire system, everyone on the planet has this crap system to this day

>Recent human ancestor born with mutation on the L-gulono-γ-lactone oxidase gene, which destroys its function, rendering it unable to produce vitamin C.
>Eat leafy greens anyway, so have enough dietary vit C to survive
>Have lots of kids, who also can't produce vitamin C, but it doesn't matter, cause we are small arboreal primates living in the jungle and eating lots of leaves and fruit and all dat gud vitamin-C rich stuff
>20 million years later one of my descendants will get on a boat for six months with nothing but dried meat and grain biscuits to live on.
>He dies of scurvy because his GLO gene has like 200 random mutations on it which destroyed its function and all my descendants, including a large fraction of modern primates, are now unable to produce their own vitamin C.

>>128256694
This.

>>128259479
because to say a life is an unintended accident is tragic, and removes all sense of purpose on a massive scale.

look, 2 different sources (hindu and jew) state that people used to live for 1000 years at a time, the hindus take it a bit further though with 100,000, and 10,000. regardless about 4000-6000 years ago, people had a lifespan that lasted hundreds of years.

everything you've ever been taught is a lie, and a tragic one at that.

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>unironically believes in creationaism

>>128259499
i love how you say "a few billion years" as if it were a negligible time frame

if the earth is 4bn years old, and humans have been around for say, 200,000 years (which is a generous estimate), then humans have been around for 0.005% of the time that the earth has existed

you cant bandy around phrases like "a few billion years". after all the universe itself is only +-3 times older than the earth is

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>>128254863
>6000 years ago
>being this retarded

>>128259650
you are asserting that it is tragic, the only reason people find it tragic is that it dispels the prior their prior beliefs which made their lives meaningful. you can form new beliefs that are consistent with the facts and dont rely upon gibberish

>>128259499
We know alot about the brain. We know which part is responsible for what we know from what it is made we know how the signal transfers.what we dont really know is how the memory is stored which imo is the more important thing to find out. And dont worry with all the funds being pumped into research we will know in a decade or two.
And if you think the brain is perfect youre a retard. Alzhaimers for example is unavoidable and every single one of us would get it but ussually other organs give out and we die before that happens.

>>128259792
>the prior their prior beliefs
typo

>>128259532
Not an argument.

>>128259499
your sort of showing my point. the sistine chapel is complex to you. it's your eyes and brain that make thar conclution. nobody else in the whole universe has seen the sistine chapel and told us they agree with us. only humans.
i could say that it took longer time to make my perfect rock than the sistine chapel. i could say there are more rocks than chapels or even more rocks than any art piece. so i could conclude that my rock is rarer or better. my point is that in both cases its only a human making this conclution.

>>128259562
Quality post from upside downland +

>>128259650
my uncle is 13578394 years old and he doesn't believe in god. there you go.

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>>128259792
I'm asserting that it is tragic because it is untrue.

>. you can form new beliefs that are consistent with the facts and dont rely upon gibberish

well, this is why I hold the geocentric cosmological view to be true, and heliocentric comsology to be a complete falsehood, and everything that stems from the belief that the earth revolves around the sun to be a complete and total lie, one of the things coming from the heliocentric model being Darwinian evolution.

it really ends up being complete gibberish.

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>>128259860
niether was yours. but to answer your trantrum

so pretty much all animal sacrifice was done to a monotheistic god, and it was done for the repentance of sins.

the 4 vedas have the same rules for animal sacrifice as the torah does, and Jesus Christ unironically met all the "kosher" rules that is required of animal sacrifice.

in a lot of history, human sacrifice to false gods as been part of it, but Jesus Christ is a human sacrifice to Mankind from the True God. when you encounter a lesson where it says that God is willing to die for you, and to look within yourself for God, and the kingdom of heaven, to repent and turn away from sin, to sort yourself out, these are lessons from the true God.

pic related.

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>>128253925
>everything has to come from somewhere
>where did everything come from, eh?
>atheists BTFO
>btw god has always existed and didn't come from anywhere

>>128259401
Added to playlist of things to clear when I have time.

>>128259451
To a trap question like that, I simply reply with Clarke's Third Law.

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

>>128259682
So "a few billion years is a really long time", that's your counterargument? It's quite telling that even though all these billions of years have passed, and despite searching for life signs for a couple decades now, the only planet we've found with life is our own. My point being that, give a rock a couple billion years, and it'll still only be a fucking rock.
>>128259812
>We know alot about the brain.
How close are we to working out how the brain really does what it does though? I remember reading about this worm brain with like, 300 neurons scientists started studying in the 80s or something, they still haven't figured out how its brain works.
>>128259866
Sure, art is subjective. Putting an organism as fragile as a human being on the moon however, is not. You're grasping for straws.

>>128260040
>well, this is why I hold the geocentric cosmological view to be true, and heliocentric comsology to be a complete falsehood, and everything that stems from the belief that the earth revolves around the sun to be a complete and total lie, one of the things coming from the heliocentric model being Darwinian evolution.

you think that the sun revolves around the earth or what?

>>128259532
What is that pic from

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>>128260040

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>>128260315
>because we havent found life on an alien planet yet it doesnt exist. despite the fact that we have only been searching for less than one hundred years

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>>128260355
yes, I do, I think the earth is stationary. and the planets revolve around the sun, while the sun revolves around us, that the earth isn't a planet, but the floor of the universe.

>>128260427
book of Daniel.

>>128260440
I pity you. and your goyim version of the world.

>>128257783
>two objects of different mass and density having the same rate of acceleration in a vacuum disproves gravity
Here's a simple calculation, using current physics (including the currently understood force due to gravity), that shows how mass of the object is negligible when determining acceleration due to the force of gravity.

Fg = (G * m1 * m2) / (r^2)
Where:
Fg is the force due to gravity
G is the universal gravitational constant (about 6.67 * 10^-11 N*m^2/kg^2
m1 is the mass of the first object (let us define it to be the Earth's mass, 5.98 * 10^24 kg)
m2 is the mass of the second object
r is the distance between the centers of gravity between the two masses

As we both know, the equation relating force, mass, and acceleration is:
F = m * a
Where:
F is the force acting on an object
m is the mass of the object
a is the acceleration of an object

Let us define m1 to be the mass of the earth, and m2 to be the mass of whatever it is that we are measuring.
Since force due to gravity acts upon both bodies equally, the equations can be linked as:

m2 * a = F = (G * m1 * m2) / (r^2)
thus
m2 * a = (G * m1 * m2) / (r^2)

Because of this, through basic arithmetic, we can cancel out the mass of the small object in question.

a = (G * m1) / (r^2)

This shows that the mass of the small object DOES NOT EFFECT its acceleration towards the earth. In fact, this shows that the acceleration of a mass due to gravity is dependent only upon the mass of the body it is moving towards, and its distance from that body.
It is worth mentioning that the Earth is technically attracted to the small object as well, and to find that acceleration we would cancel out m1 instead; for sufficiently large differences in mass, however (such as the Earth to an apple), this is negligible.

>>128255806

>atheists want to abort this

>>128260122
I regret wasting my time reading that.
Should have stopped reading after the meme arrows.
It says that a higher power exist without providing a single argument why it does. Then again no religionfags ever do.

>>128260603
To finish this off, lets calculate the acceleration due to gravity near the Earth's surface (which is approximately the Earth's radius)

a = ((6.67 * 10^-11 N*m^2/kg^2) * (5.98 * 10^24 kg)) / ((6.38 * 10^6 m)^2)
= (39.887 * 10^13 N*m^2/kg) / (40.704 * 10^12 m^2)
= (39.887 * 10^13 N/kg) / (40.704 * 10^12)

(note that N is one Newton, which is equal to 1 kg*m/s^2)

= (39.887 * 10^13 m/s^2) / (50.704 * 10^6)
= (.9799 * 10^1 m/s^2)
= 9.799 m/s^2 =~ 9.8 m/s^2


TL;DR: Two objects of different masses falling towards a mass with the same acceleration is mathematically valid and explained by the scientifically accepted laws of gravitation.

The lack of understanding of the exact mechanism or nature of gravitation does not imply that the entire theory is bunk, only that there is more to learn.

>>128255699
refugee boarding house # 4539282

>>128260315
>>128260315
going to the moon proves we were designed by god because only god can make something so intelligent that they can build a spaceship that goes to the moon.

>>128256973
Nails support your fingertips dumbass. Neck is open so you can turn your head easily which allows you to take in your surroundings better.

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>>128254240
Why do programmers create computer programs? Seems like unnecessary work.

Extrapolate your logic beyond your own foolish presumptions, and you might be able to see the idiot inside yourself.

Only by knowing your enemy, can you defeat it.

>>128260548
Is that a normal Christian thing because I was raised a Jehovah's Witness and they can be pretty autistic with their teachings

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>>128260548
>yes, I do, I think the earth is stationary. and the planets revolve around the sun, while the sun revolves around us, that the earth isn't a planet, but the floor of the universe.

>the earth isn't a planet, but the floor of the universe.

then where does the water come from?

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>>128260669
>It says that a higher power exist without providing a single argument why it does. Then again no religionfags ever do.

oh lord, give this pasta-fag eyes so he can see, and ears so he may hear.

lets ask you a simple question, do you think that string theory holds any ground? the idea that there are 10 dimensions of space in our universe, the 1st 4 being length, height, width, and time, and 6 being unseen.

do you think that if they do exist? that beings exist inside the 6 other dimensions, and its possible to not exist in 4 dimensional space like we do (human beings are 4d) but exist in all 10 dimensions?

>>128260669
mooom. dey shay the burben of broof is on meesh agains. :´(

>>128248223
>>128254451
How stupid can a man be?

>>128256973

>he still sees humans as individuals and cells of larger organisms called "society"
>he thinks the individual survival/pleasure of some human is what the body is designed around
>he isn't smart enough to realize societal organisms

>>128260748
But that's wrong; the moon landings, while excessively awesome feats of science and engineering, are fairly simple in terms of modern understanding of science.

It is an arbitrary point you chose for "only intelligently designed intelligence can do this", when you could just have easily picked something far more technically impressive, such as the construction of fusion reactors or something similar.

>>128254418
if he created that, he also created all the fat people that shit themselves in walmart

>>128260456
I didn't say it didn't exist, just that it doesn't seem to be as common as some would have you believe. There's also the matter of younger planets in those many billions of start systems just in our galaxy. How come an older civilization hasn't shown up yet? It probably wouldn't take more than a hundred million years for an advanced civilization to colonize the galaxy, and yet, silence.
>>128260748
Straw-manning. Read your own original post and learn to debate properly. You compared human beings to rocks as a way to show that we're not really that special. The fact is, we are.

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>>128260904
no, I didn't come to Christianity until after I figured out the earth was stationary.

and most christians don't know, nor do they care that their bible says the earth is immovable. Jevohas take it pretty literally, but I don't see any of them playing with snakes according to mark 16:17-18 nor do i see any of them speaking on tongues, and they don't use the king james.

>>128260913
I'm going to anwer your question with a question.

where do protons, neutrons, and electrons come from? because at the end of the day EVERY SINGLE element on the periodic table is made of these 3 substances.

>>128260548
wouldn't this mean that we would have a full moon every night? i guess australians would have new moon every night as well.

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>>128260548
you are just one of 7.3 billion evolved apes on this tiny, rocky sphere which is nothing else than condensed plasma.

you give yourself an importance which is only justified if you live like we have done it for hundred thousands of years: in the circle of our beloved family members and close friends from the clan.

if you think about bigger things than family, you have to re-adjust your scale and reduce yourself to to mold spores on this little plasmoid, at the very most.

WE ARE JUST CONDENSED ENERGY PARTICLES AND NOT ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THE HUGENESS SOURROUNDING US. IT'S BEYOND OUR COMPREHENSION.

shut up with your medieval world view which is beyond ridicule and get real. go to your family and say that you love them, if you do.

>>128260315
Technology progresses. Figuring out how radio waves work and producing them tool 30 years. If suddenly every drop of knowdeledge about them dissapeared thanks to technology it would take a few months to reinvent them. Nobody can say how long it will take until we figure out something because nobody can see the future but theres absolutely no reason to believe that we wont eventually. And with sufficient funds pooled towards brain research which is actually happening now it is logical to anticipate it within a few decades because whenever money and enough.manpower was focused on something humanity achieved its goal

>>128261099
>How come an older civilization hasn't shown up yet? It probably wouldn't take more than a hundred million years for an advanced civilization to colonize the galaxy, and yet, silence.
this is not evidence for any argument one way or another so meh
>>128261123
>where do protons, neutrons, and electrons come from? because at the end of the day EVERY SINGLE element on the periodic table is made of these 3 substances.

who knows? who cares? im not the one making absurd assertions about the sun revolving around the earth and the earth being the "floor" of the universe

>>128248223
hahahahahahahhahahahaha
Even if this is bait, it's still incredible funny that there are people who are so narrow minded that they think that there has to be a creator because "stuff like that doesn't happen by accident". Yeah you genius it doesn't. It happens because there is no other way it could work

>>128254451
>pentagram and all other shapes already exist in the universe
>expressed through a human lens by human hands
>"because i designed this "complex and unnatural" (giggle) shape, all complexity is necessarily the result of design
>muh perception bias
>muh anthropocentric bias
>humens ar speshul

Wow so humble guys jesus would be proud. The universe is laden with complexity at every level, assuming that its been designed because you cant understand how it would happen otherwise (protip: human intelligence is very restricted ) is literally retarded.

Oh, and as a response to the OP proper >>128248223, have this relatively decent video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W96AJ0ChboU

>>128260931
I think its a theory. I dont believe or believe theories I wait until they get proven with hard facts.

Same as I dont care about magical sky man woman or alien until it actually gets proven. Incase of religion if some divine being doesnt step down from his realm or we gain acess to said realm there wont be any proof.

I also prefer being called pastanigger

>>128261166
My point was that even though we've discovered a lot about the brain, we're still nowhere near knowing how it really works. Hence the worm example.
>because whenever money and enough.manpower was focused on something humanity achieved its goal
Not really, see the ITER fusion reactor project.
>>128261233
>this is not evidence for any argument one way or another so meh
It's evidence for life not being so common in the universe.

>>128261152

Is everything okay, Germany? You're more than a mold spore to me 'ol friend.

>>128261099
my point is that intelligence and design is relative terms. i could make the same observations about a rock that you do about humans or anything else for that matter. it's only complex in your human eyes. and when i point this out you just come up with something more complex. moon landing is more complex than sistine chapel. you can go on and on. i guess the postal system is proof of god. video games are proof of god. any shiny thing that awe us must be made by god. i guess when the crow steals shiny objects it can conclude that the crow god created those.

>>128248331
irreducible complexity, which has no sound refutation
>>128248223
what's funny is how multicelled organisms are infinitely more irreducibly complex

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>>128261233
well, water comes from these 3 elements, protons, neutrons, and electrons arranged into atoms, you take 1 proton, and 1 neutron, and you get a hydrogen atom, you take 8 protons, 8 neutrons, and 8 electrons and you get an oxygen atom, then you take 2 hydrogen atoms, and fuse these to 1 oxygen atom, and then you get water.

fun fact, protons and neutrons are made out of quarks, 2 up quarks and 1 down quark make a proton, 2 down quarks and 1 up quark makes a neutron.


>im not the one making absurd assertions about the sun revolving around the earth and the earth being the "floor" of the universe

well, people have been making this assertion for thousands of years, and only a few hundred years have people been saying the earth revolves around the sun.

>>128261152
good goyim, keep thinking that, yes good goyim, let muslims infest your country for israel.

I'm going to tell you this very honestly. You've never, had an organic thought in your life.

>>128260980
The human body is designed to reproduce. Tell me you retarded nigger how does having an inneficient body help the survival of society

>>128261123
>no, I didn't come to Christianity until after I figured out the earth was stationary.
Oh Jesus dude, shut the fuck up. You're giving us all a bad name.
>>128261633
>intelligence and design is relative terms
It really isn't. A monkey using a stone to open a nut is displaying intelligence, the same way humans did when they landed on the moon. A rock is not and will never be intelligent.
> i could make the same observations about a rock that you do about humans or anything else for that matter
You couldn't. And no reasonable person would draw the same conclusions you do.

>>128254814
delete this picture

>>128248223
go back to Facebook you retarded faggot

reminder this thread to redpill you that creationists are larping just like flat earthers and nobody believes either

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>>128261123
>>128261669
>where do protons, neutrons, and electrons come from?
>they are made of quarks, which come from where?
>why do elementary particles exist at all?
>how does the standard model work?

Anon, you're asking about elementary particle physics on /pol/, and I'm sure /sci/ could give you a far better explanation (if they're not being meming idiots), but I'm just going to out and say it.

We don't know.

You're asking questions which are being asked RIGHT NOW in science, ones which haven't been answered yet, and that's very good!
But it's fallacious to imply that, because we can't answer the question of "why" yet after having answered the question of "what", that all current models are therefor wrong.
We know that atoms exist.
We know that subatomic particles exist.
We know that elementary particles exist.
The answer of "why or how" they exist is not answered yet, but I assure you, it is being worked on.

>>128261736

>being this retarded

If the human body is designed only to reproduce you'd only have a dick. What a retard. Look at this fucking retard over here. If the human body was only designed to reproduce why can't you reproduce?

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>>128261889
no, the bible clearly states the earth is fixed to be immovable.

I'd rather have a bad name to men than a bad name to God. you can prove that the bible comes from outside of our space-time.

pray for understanding of the world he put you in.

>he same way humans did when they landed on the moon

no.

>A rock is not and will never be intelligent.
the 6th elemental state of matter is intelligence, how does a rock know to be a rock?

>>128262141

>not realizing the liquid firmament is code word for the aether

>>128261889
a monkey using a stone is intelligent in your eyes.
i didn't say rocks were intelligent. i'm saying i could argue a rock is as complex as a monkey using a rock. its relative. it doesn't prove anything one way or the other. i could say a worm shitting in the wood shows intelligent design.
>You couldn't. And no reasonable person would draw the same conclusions you do.
reasonability is relative as well. any reasonably crow would conclude that a god made those shiny things. thats why any reasonable crow collects them in their nest.

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>>128262141
You must be trolling, no one can be this stupid.
Stop taking everything so literally, especially when your eyes are clearly telling you otherwise.

>>128262141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKiI5k-_iaU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bpHFj97-X4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbVmM9ymjxA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KEOCmGuSIA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjgX8xtbQ6s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT4BxNZqybA

>>128262508
>i'm saying i could argue a rock is as complex as a monkey using a rock
I could argue that I'm god emperor of the world, doesn't make it true.

>>128262130
Eitheir this is bait or you truly are of nigger level intellect. The dick cant create semen you need balls for that. To create semen you need nutrients thats why digestive system. To get nutrients as an animal and not a plant you need to move thats why muscles ans bones and lungs which are needed to power those and brain to coordinate and blood to distribute etc etc. Every living organism exists to reproduce as it is the main instinct of every known species.

That being said kys or atleat castrate yourseld so you dont spread your shitty genes you waste of space human garbage

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>>128261669
>You've never, had an organic thought in your life.
I'm sorry to tell that you are wrong on this one.

>>128262604
right. thats my point.

>>128255290
>wait 295 days to get a clear blue sky
>it doesn't come
>take the picture anyway
nice try britbong

>>128262110

he asked me where water comes from. I simply answered his question. try getting a frame of reference before jumping into the conversation Donny.

>We don't know.
>The answer of "why or how" they exist is not answered yet, but I assure you, it is being worked on.

well, despite the fact I don't like Newton, He sure had an answer
God created everything by number, weight and measure.
>>128262358
>not realizing I've physically seen the aether, and it has nothing to do with the glass firmament, but is the 5th elemental state of matter being spirit.

here's a fun fact. the michelson-morely experiment that failed to detect the Aether was based on the earths movement around the sun ended in failure and was most likely designed to end in failure, Akasha as it is called in the hindu mythos, has a stationary earth for its cosmology. meaning the only way to detect the aether is to create an experiment based on the immobility of the earth

>>128258155
good music taste at least

>>128262508

You're nitpicking the definitions of words and them using that to claim what they describe does not exist.

If reason is just relative, then it's perfectly reasonable to think God exists!

Not arguing for religion but it's annoying to see how retarded your acting so I need to call you out for it.

As an effort to salvage this thread before it dies, have some nice videos to enjoy, anons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQXE5KEXiNM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH3c1QZzRK4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo-RcRQeqA8

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>>128262707
Truly pathetic, you don't understand what an organic thought even is.
>>128262517
man, look at that photoshop. i bet you still think space is a vacuum.

>>128262686

Why are you here if humans were designed only to reproduce though? Wy are you """"debating"""" me instead of pursuing a mate? Is this going to get you girls anon, arguing with Internet strangers? You must be the greatest pussy slayer of all time m8. Wow he can argue with anons on /pol/, what a manly man! You are proof of either God's existence or evolution. Either God designed you so that you'd suffer for not believing, or you are just an evolutionary mistake. Both theories make equal sense, therefore religion is just as valid as evolution.

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>>128262951
OK.

>>128262549
man, once you disprove curvature its not something you can really reprove
>soda bottle debunks flat earth
lol no.

2 universities texas, and the other I don't remember made a collective collage of topographical maps of kansas, and have proved it to be as flat as a pancake, the same thing has been done for florida.

you have no argument.

>>128262882
Religion ultimately is nothing more than a hyphothesis. Believing hyphothesis to be true without it being proven is idiotic

>>128262823
Having an answer doesn't make it true, though.

There are many possible answers for things, as has been the case through history.
Lightning is caused by bolts from Zeus
Maggots are created by rotting meat
The constellations were made by the gods to immortalize great heroes.

These are all answers to the questions, what is lightning, where do flys (and by extension, maggots) come from, and where do stars come from?

But we can both agree that these are wrong answers.

The fact of the matter is that scientific inquiry is the best method humans have available to them to reaching approximate truth (as truthful as sensory data can be), and that is has led to greater understanding towards the nature of the universe.

Going towards another source for truth, despite the impressive track record of science, simply because science cannot provide rigorous and accepted answers for ALL phenomena at smallest and largest scales is, in all honesty, pure arrogance.
It is okay to say "we don't know everything yet", and to be okay with not knowing some things until we do. It is often better to be content with just saying "I don't know", rather than fabricating an answer simply for the sake of having an answer.

>>128262141
how do you explain that if you fly from North America to Antartica and fly further south in America why do you come out in Australia in real life ? With like 3000 $ dollar for the plane and ship tickets you can debunk this theory for yourself

>>128262882
some peope think that though. some people think creationism is reasonable. how is it not relative?

>>128262951
>the partially illuminated Earth can fit into an ellipse
>this means the pictures are fake
Okay?

>>128263202
Close, but not quite. Hypothesis are generally made based on previously established evidence or axioms which we know to be true (or almost certainly true), rather than just saying "maybe it's X"

That's not to say that wild guesses can't be right, but they're often not.

>>128263138
Im married 2 kids 3rd on the way.

Nice ad hominus this is my last you im giving to your undeserving cunt

Religion is a hypothesis not a theory you basketball american. Go back to smoking weed you filth