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I've looked into various Pagan religions a lot and was raised with Christianity
Points on Christianity
Pros
>Has been unifying factor for Europe as well some Near Easterners and Africans
>10 Commandments are a central pillar of Both Judeo-Christian Society and the West as a whole
>Christian Mythology and Belief are definitely intertwined with Western Culture and Values
Cons
>Foreign religion but it has become Westernized and Judeo-Christianized our culture
>Strongly Egalitarian and Universalist in belief, put other Christians above Family and Nation
>Divisive Sects squabble over petty differences
>Jesus preached following old testament law and asceticism
Paganism
Pros
>Some of them have decent morals
>Ancestral tradition
>Stories are interesting
Cons
>Large part of the Pagan community is leftist
>Tiny minority of whites
>Most Pagan traditions have little to no authentic religious practices (Greco-Roman is excluded)
>Most have a patched together or poorly sourced mythos (Germanic, Insular Celtic, and Greco-Roman are excluded)
>A fair number of /pol/ pagans follow "Hyperborean" paganism which seems to be an entirely modern invention
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Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are a curse on Europeans, trying to forcibly make us slaves to a Dark Semite Deity
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Face of the average (((Christian)))
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Christianity
Originally much more commonly found in Africa, Middle East and Asia Minor, only much later came to the West. Christianity was chased out of it's native lands by Muslims but is poised to make a comeback in some areas, notably Africa and South America, albeit in a much-changed form while it recedes in the West.

Pagans
Were modern pagans following the ethics of pre-Christianity they'd likely be more pro-life than the average Born-Again or Catholic. There were NO pagan religions that supported abortion - infanticide sometimes, abortion never - and you can read about that to this day in their surviving literature and even things like the Hippocratic Oath.
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Why can't I hold all this dukkha
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>>128189880
Paganism is greater than any Jewish Yahweh sect
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>>128189932
???
>>128189650
kek
>>128189880
Christianity is a foreign religion, but Catholicism and Orthodoxy are native religions in that they are Roman Practice+Messianic Jewish Cult
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>>128192504
Christianity is 100% Jewish Schmuel
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>>128191145
WAS. It ain't shit now, desu. Buncha faggotty LARPers who haven't a clue what they're on about.
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>>128187392
Which is best, buddhism paganism or christianity?
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>>128192858
Greco-Roman paganism is still practicable, aesthetic, and the birth place of western society, philosophy, and art. Catholics and Orthodox have SOME merit because of preserved European religion in their ceremonies
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the thing is though that you cant prove any religion, therefore it is stupid to dedicate yourself to any religion. theres an infinite number of possibilites for religion.
>>128193075
be agnostic
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>>128193075
As a Buddhist, I'm inclined to say Buddhism. I think the gods may exist from either religion. I personally think any religion that puts you on a good path is good and both have good and bad followers and paths
>>128193197
The most important parts of Buddhism are its Philosophical aspects which definitely have at least some merit.
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>>128192858
ya most of the shit about paganism was destroyed a while ago, the people who practice it today are just larping faggots
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>>128187392
Are you one of those White Buddhist cucks? We Tibetans laugh at you people
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>it's a western new age leftist roleplays as a buddhist episode
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>>128193075
Buddhism and [original] Paganism are probably better seen as intellectual abstractions and philosophies first - if they match your view of what is or ought to be reality, go for it, I guess. Both are absolute minority and very hard to find a community for.

Christianity is the easiest for community but its based around faith in conscious rejection of rationality [which ought to be a clue, but isn't, for modern pagans].

What do you need a religion for? For myself, a christian church is great networking, has good music if you pick the right one, has comfy architecture. I never pay any heed to what the preacher talks about.
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>>128193905
I was just asking. I'm a Hindu. I'm Hindu because it would betray my ancestors to throw away thousands of years of caste system eugenics of creating the perfect kshatriya and custodian/protector of dharma. Plus I like elephants.
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>>128193158
Graeco-Roman gods were abstract ideals of perfection, personified. War was given the name Ares, not Ares was given oversight of War. The abstractions were what was important and seen as the code of the universe, which is why the geometric solids [dodecahedron, etc] were guarded as sacred mystery objects. Most neopagans are pig ignorant of such and have no feels for the real thing.
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>>128194350
Elephants are pretty cool.
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>>128193661
I keep it to myself. I'm not the type to bring up my spirituality at every opportunity or to be involved with New Age pseudo-spiritual garbage
>>128193898
Sorry Anon, I'm a right wing, pro white, civic nationalist
>>128193905
Christianity is devoid of European spirituality, influenced by Greek Philosophy (primarily Cynicism) and Heavily culturally intertwined.
>>128194350
Hinduism is cool, genuine spirituality, philosophy and Indo-European >>128194465
I genuinely like Philosophy+Jungian Paganism
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>>128194350
I guess choosing a religion based upon whether one likes elephants or not is as good a way to go about it as any other
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>>128194350
Varnas aren't exclusive to Hinduism. Interestingly enough there are Brahmin and Kshatriya Christians as well

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_Kshatriya"
>Mass Baptisms in this village (Batim in Bardez) took place on 25 August 1560. The priests who had been sent to make preparations for the christening were asleep when at midnight of the 24th (August) more than 200 persons (men, women and children) knocked at their door and declared that they wished to become Christians. The women were very well dressed and wore plenty of gold. The men were also well dressed with feathers in their caps and guns on their shoulders. This group was led by one man named Camotim (Kamat). He wore scarlet satin pants, had a silver sword at his waist and a gun on his shoulder. All of them were baptised on the above-mentioned day. These people belonged to the Chardo class, consisting of warriors, men of a much better personality than the Brahmins."
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Your use of the term Judeo Christian invalidates everything you have said.

Furthermore buddhism is a death cult that worships extinction. There is nothing quite as defeatist as a buddhist who embraces nirvana at the cost of the self.
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>>128193661
What part of Tibet did the Buddha come from?

The religion is even practiced by Mongols in a small part of Europe.
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>>128195748
>Sorry Anon, I'm a right wing, pro white, civic nationalist

yup so you're a new-age leftard
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>>128187392
How do I become awakened
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>>128187392

>Strongly Egalitarian and Universalist in belief, put other Christians above Family and Nation
Maybe your milk toast protestant feel good churches, but hierarchy is key to Christianity and the value of the Family and Nation are emphasized a lot.
>Divisive Sects squabble over petty differences
>Petty differences
>PETTY
What the fuck you talking about?
If you call the differences between Catholicism, Protestantism and Orthodoxy petty then you need to go read a book.
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>>128196428
Most likely he came from India, in modern day Nepal
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>>128196853
Yes, I was being sarcastic, you ridicule white people who practice Buddhism when he was of a completely difference race, ironically an Indo-European speaking one.
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>>128187392
>Most Pagan traditions have little to no authentic religious practices (Greco-Roman is excluded)

Paganism is theism - not religion. Which isn't to say Buddhism is apostate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGlwr44hsoE
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>>128196653
overcome the false perception you have of phenomena as being permanent
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>>128197103
>muh indo-europeans

this is the biggest meme ever
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>>128195748

>Christianity is devoid of European spirituality
Maybe protestantism but look at Catholicism and Orthodoxy especially the holidays and how they view Saints.
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>>128195748
What's European spirituality? Afaik Western spirituality = hesychasm, divine reading, rosary, cloud of unknowing, and so on
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>>128187392
I always get a kick out of Buddhists being Buddhists. You're silly folks to make a religion out of me (Hi, I'm Buddha. AMA!) I've literally never said to do that shit, man,not once in any of my incarnations. Fucking "Buddhists" crack me the fuck up. Y'all need Jesus or some other guru because you sure as fuck don't get me and I have never been a fucking guru.

<3 Buddha <3
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>>128197344
It's just a language family, obviously Sinhalese and Irishmen aren't related, but they count from 1 to 10 similarly and similar terms for their family members.
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>>128197103
>practice Buddhism
>of a completely difference race

Nigga, you crazy. Straight up wacko like Jacko, baby. What race haven't I been? I've been a fucking /gorilla/ and a poo-n-da-loo at the same goddamn time, mang, I can be whatever the fuck I want whenever the fuck I want, dummy, I am literally everything.
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>>128187392
>Human sacrifice not in "con" list for paganism

OP is a serial killer.
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>>128197103
You misunderstand, it wasn't simply because he's a different race. White people specifically are plagued with degenericies that can't be fixed unless they reject their dead culture, no good religion can manifest in those circumstances
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>>128198202
the pagans didnt do human sacrifice
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>>128198202
>human
I swear these threads are made just to fuck with me.
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>>128198291

Have you ever herd of Celts?
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>>128198284
I'm genuinely curious, what plagues white people that keeps good religion from manifesting?
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>>128196428
>>128196853
He was from Bihar, an Indo-Aryan region in North East India
>>128197415
They practice a foreign religion in a European way. Saints are similar to European hero and ancestor worship imo (in a good way)
>>128197576
Parts of Apololistic Christianity, Most of Gnosticism, Various Pagan Religions, Greek Philosophical paths, Roman Imperial Cult, and to a degree Fascism/NatSoc's more esoteric side...
>>128198202
afaik it wasn't universally practiced, but I may be wrong. I also left out burning heretics and witches at the stake...
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>>128198435
Pagans are degenerates who seek the comfort of religion while holding fast to all the perversions of mankind in his fallen state. Pagans are lower than pond scum.
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>>128198681
>They practice a foreign religion in a European way.
>Foreign
Christianity has been the belief of some European peoples for 2 millennia almost in some cases. Such a long time period that it has shaped the formation of some of those people.
Further more there is no such thing as a unifying European way or anything of any relevancy in something being European.
Do you think the Roman Pantheon would be less foreign than Christianity to a Baltic village?
Or that just because two millenia ago the people of the Italian peninsula were Roman pagans, that the Roman practices wouldn't be foreign now?

The idea that the creed of a people is foreign do to it's origin is a bit silly and a clear mark of Americanism and their infantile understanding of Europe.
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>>128198651
Naturalism, the rejection of the spiritual realm, especially on account of Cartesian dualism; reduction of religion to mere scripture, while ignoring tradition (thanks Luther); a progressive/utopian understanding of history that goes back to the Renaissance
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>>128198435
Best way to herd Celts is with a dog and a bottle of whiskey.
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>>128198651
I think he means white culture inhibits good religion?
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>>128199770
Most forms of Buddhism are naturalistic, considering all spirituality as mind generated illusion.
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>>128199652
Absolutely agree. A clue as to what beliefs the peoples of a particular area of Europe held before Christianity can always be found in the story of how they were converted to Christianity in the first place. That includes Rome itself. Every story is unique and rich in it's own right.
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>>128199652
Its origins are foreign, as are its beliefs for the most part. It has become heavily Europeanized (Protestants made an effort to de-Europeanize it) for the most part though. I never argued that Baltics should practice foreign pagan beliefs, that would be strange and nonsensical. I personally don't care what religion they practice though.
>>128198651
Christianity has for the most part stamped out other religious movements good or bad
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>>128200197
and then bundle them all together in a wicker basket of their own making. These pagans are a symptom of the decline of the west. Only Christendom will save the west because it is Christendom that defined the west - as well as the Byzantine East.

Most pagans are larping edgelords who have nothing more than Varg videos, who just so happens to be a convicted murderer and all round nutjob, to offer the world.

Paganism is a dead end whose religion is a feminized form of nature worshipping morons... kinda sounds familiar doesn't it? Truth is we are already living through pagan times and that is why the West is in the sorry state it is in.
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>>128199770
Thanks, interesting stuff.

>Naturalism, the rejection of the spiritual realm, especially on account of Cartesian dualism;
Doesn't Cartesian Dualism reinforce the spiritual realm?: "the human mind or soul could not be identified with the physical body . . . the immaterial mind and the material body are two completely different types of substances and that they interact with each other"
http://www.allaboutphilosophy.org/cartesian-dualism-faq.htm

>reduction of religion to mere scripture, while ignoring tradition (thanks Luther);
I've heard this from Hindus, too. Why can't a religion put everything in writing, as a philosophy can? Seems like an excuse, deliberately muddying the waters to make them seem deep.

>a progressive/utopian understanding of history that goes back to the Renaissance
Just a way to interpret history, how does this keep you from being good?
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so are you ever planning on locking yourself up in a tiny space and eating only seeds and pine needles or...?
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>>128201069
Even the physical world becomes maya at one point, not only spirit; at certain realms of reality the spiritual becomes material and the material becomes supernatural
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>>128201447
because Christianity is a syncretism of the pre-christian traditions+ the abrahamic faith and shit it picked up along the way, like Chinese folk religion is a syncretism of buddhism, taoism, itself a syncretism of pre-historic chinese traditions, confucianism and animism.

So is Shinto.

Religions are a lot more complicated than you think and at this point of humanity most religions are deeply interwined with the culture of the countries where they are originally practiced, hence why adopting buddhism or whatever as a religion is abandoning a part of your identity.

If you don't like christianity check out various Freemason lodges, a lot of them are Deist/theist with various degrees of christianity, pre christian theosophy, mostly Roman and Greek, and oriental influences.
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>>128200470
Yes, was curious about what parts of white culture were inhibitors. See >>128201812
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>>128195748
>civic nationalist
So you're NOT pro white?
The two are mutually exclusive.
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>>128201651

>be greco roman pagan after calling
>never watched a varg video

you only think it's larping because you've never experienced anything

if you want to try something that might open you up to something you haven't experienced yet i could teach you a good first step
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>>128201812
I have to leave for a while but if the thread is still up I'll answer these
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>>128202463
>he thinks you can be a "greco-roman pagan" without the context and frame of greco-roman society
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>>128202716

clearly, there's a lot you don't know
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>>128195748
>Hinduism is cool, genuine spirituality, philosophy and Indo-European
I have feel like most indians despise the indo european hypothesis.
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>>128203178
don't worry bro, I'm from the country that literally resurrected greco-roman culture before yours was any more than France, England, Spain and a bunch of natives trading furs.
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>>128203393

i can see you don't understand how the occult works
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>>128187392
>>Strongly Egalitarian and Universalist in belief
This is not inherently a con, only when people go full retard with it.
>put other Christians above Family and Nation
If you don't put your religion before everything else, you're not religious.
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>>128202142
White culture in reference to Buddhism is so logic centered that we tend to forget that emotion must also be addressed.
Only when our emotional responses are also seen as mind generated illusions, no more real than dreams, do they loose the ability to disturb our serenity.
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>>128202120
>>hence why adopting buddhism or whatever as a religion is abandoning a part of your identity.

Adopting a new religion is literally adopting/being adopted into a new tribe. Its pretty much the point.
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>>128203639
keep larping, faggot
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>>128203791
not when you're a pasty white guy who doesn't know shit about fuck practicing a yellow/black people religion
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>>128187392
>christian mythology
wew
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>>128187392
Let me try
Points on Buddhism:
Pros
>it doesn't interfere a lot
>most of it's adherents do not care about anything
Cons
>most of it's adherents do not care about anything
>most Buddhists are leftists
>most Buddhists are people who wanted to reject religion but muh spirituality
>people think they look intelligent if they join Buddhism
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>>128203791
Christianity is not the religion of the white tribes. It's merely a foreign dogma that's been interwoven into our culture.
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>>128203966
and yet, thats what happened when europe took up the cross
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>>128204280
This

Cathedrals were actually Pagan inventions, all the sayings including a monotheistic God are not European, and all the art and literature derived from Europe was actually pagan. WE
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>>128204308
you what now ?

like with most religions it spread from the top down over many generations and often through violence
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>>128204208
Most Buddhist care enough to set Muslims on fire while Christians are trying to wash Muslim feet.
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>>128203836

>i've never experienced what you have so you must be larping

i offered to teach people a way to open their minds to other experiences, i have no reason to larp
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>>128202716
Yet the greek and roman world embraced Christianity as they left their old, and primitive deities in the dust bin of history and by the cross Christendom conquered the world. Pagans already lost the battle and now a pack of internet druids want a rematch? LOL...pagans are nothing more than vermin.
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>>128204690
if you think there is even a single christian left on earth you're wrong, it's mostly a skeleton of old traditions and decorum

>>128204802
do you practice libations, wear a toga and hang out at the forum to get the most recent political news ?
Retard.
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>>128204418
Yep, Stonehenge is an early version of the cathedral.
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>>128202325
Its too late for America to be an ethnostate, but I'd love to deport Blacks and Mestizos
>>128203376
Don't care what they think about their history desu
>>128203993
I didn't mean to make it sound false, mythology is simply the stories and descriptions of the deities devoid of the religous practice
>>128204208
Most WESTERN Buddhists are leftists
>>128204690
I hope they keep it up
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>>128205103
Which just so happened to couple as an altar of human sacrifices.

Pagans will burn, either in this life or the next.
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>>128205100
Yes, things change because all phenomena is impermanent.
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>>128204418
From the wiki article on the Architecture of cathedrals and great churches of europe.

-The cathedral was created to the Glory of God. It was seen as appropriate that it should be as grand and as beautiful as wealth and skill could make it.

-As the seat of a Bishop, the Cathedral was the location for certain liturgical rites, such as the Ordination of Priests, which brought together large numbers of clergy and people.

-It functioned as an ecclesiastical and social meeting-place for many people, not just those of the town in which it stood, but also, on occasions, for the entire region.

-The cathedral often had its origins in a monastic foundation and was a place of worship for members of a holy order who said the mass privately at a number of small chapels within the cathedral.

The cathedral often became a place of worship and burial for wealthy local patrons. These patrons often endowed the cathedrals with money for successive enlargements and building programs.

-Cathedrals are also traditionally places of pilgrimage, to which people travel from afar to celebrate certain important feast days or to visit the shrine associated with a particular saint. An extended eastern end is often found at cathedrals where the remains of a saint are interred behind the High Altar
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>>128205094
Again, greco-roman spirituality was greatly linked to their social order and their traditions, as they, society and traditions, collapsed under apathy, mistrust, "progressive" social reforms, etc..., people found refuge in a new form of vertical order.
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>>128205336
There's no going back to paganism, though people can practice it within the restraints of western culture if they wish.
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>>128203376
The hardcore Hindus are horrified by linguistic connections between Sanskrit and Greek, their national myth is that they traveled to the stars with vedic magic 'n shiet and are the true master race of call centers and potty witches.
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>>128193497
i know too many little teen kids who are exacly like this. its fucking awful.
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>>128205415
>

Nonsense. pagans suffered the fate they so rightly deserved and Europa under the banner of the Cross gave rise to modernity.

The west has abandoned the congregation of Christ and embraced pagan degeneracy - and now we find ourselves in a cultural and spiritual vacuum. We are ripe fpor the picking and thye Mohammedans will swallow us whole if we don't return back to the church. If you think a pack of crystal readers, or tree worshippers, or Goddess believers can withstand the Muslim horde you are a fool.
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>>128205634
Topkek, son. Surely amongst all those Hindu gods there must be a god of POO.
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>>128205211
I'm going on a ten day Vipassana retreat soon, any tips?

Had a life changing experience almost a year ago doing mindfulness practise, and I feel like my mind is clinging to it still refusing to let go
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>worshiping gods
>not becoming a god
wew lads
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>>128205954
you're a larping retard as well, christianity is pretty much dead and buried, we'll probably see a new form of spirituality emerge in the coming decades, either that or mass conversions to Islam.

Nature hates emptiness and always fills the void.
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>>128194465
They prayed and made sacrifices to the gods. The idea that the average pagan back then didn't actually believe in the gods is absurd.
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>>128187392
A lot of Buddhism is true, but a lot of it is for weak bitches who just want to stop dealing with everything.

The answer is P H I L O S O P H Y, can't shirk your duty of figuring things out by just picking someone to follow.

As for managing the little people, I say political-martial religion like NatSoc or Roman emperor-worship.
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>>128206221
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Christianity is still the most populous religion in world moron and is seeing a resurgence in Eastern Europe (which is the only uncucked part of Europe) as well as Russia as well as experiencing exponential growth in Asia.

Best that you talk your shit elsewhere frog!
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>>128205100

again you don't know what you're talking about

but humour me since none of this is real

when you lay down tonight imagine a five pointed star above you, your right leg on the point that represents earth, your left arm on the point that represents air, right arm on the point that represents fire, your left leg on the point that represents water

in that order immerse yourself in the ideas that you associate with elements, when you get to the fifth point (spirit) over where your third eye (pineal gland) is do this:

focus on the area where your third eye is with your eyes closed ("look" at it) until you feel pressure, focus on the pressure and imagine that opening up

if you do it right you'll know, if you don't keep trying until you do

from there you'll be "open"
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>>128206140
Knowing that your own mind is your greatest obstacle is vital on the path to awakening.
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>>128206805
I drink a lot of tap water and tap water here contains a lot of limestone, my pineal gland is probably calcified
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>>128206805
>induced schizophrenia
>>128206996
doesnt iodine decalcify it or something
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>>128206996

supposedly just trying to use it can help with that, it took me a month to actually manage it

it's an interesting experience to say the least and it's a good first step in that direction

you don't have to do the five pointed star thing first, it's meant to balance you, some people use other methods

it's what i was taught first

i understand thinking this is all larping, i used to as well; experience has taught me otherwise but there's no way to experience anything without immersion first
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>>128207534

it does feel like schizophrenia at first, but only because it's hard to accept where things go from there when you've spent your whole life experiencing "reality" in one manner and thinking you understand it fully
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>>128206811
I know its frowned upon to advertise one's level of liberation, but out of curiosity what states of 'mind' have you achieved?
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>>128207741
hmm i have heard about this kind of thing before though, do you have like special powers or something?
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>>128205602
You are more tolerant of these spiritual/cultural vandals than I...
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>>128208255

no, it's not quite like that

what "magic" actually is and what people think it is are two very different things

take something like the kybalion (i'm not into hermeticism myself, but it has some valid points) which really just illustrates how to assert your will and take advantage of the world around you (within the laws of nature) to bring your desires into reality

third eye meditation changes your perception of the world around you, and at the very least you'll enjoy the euphoric sensations it produces that are as good as any drug i've ever had without actually putting any drugs into your body

try it, you'll see what i mean
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>>128187392
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>>128208881
ya i have heard about this stuff before, im just too lazy to read anything or do any things for it. how can i stop being so lazy?
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>>128211209

i'm pretty lazy myself, i learned most of this through women i've been close to or with and after some experiences i've pushed myself a little further to actually look into it

the good thing is with third eye meditation you can be extremely lazy and do this while you lay down before you sleep if you wanted, and there isn't anything to it other than what i already wrote (the method)

after you do it once i would suggest just continuing (you'll probably want to) and then seeing what direction it leads you to from there

i've had more experiences than time spent reading books personally, i'm still working on finding more formal ways to learn aside from sex with pagans

i could teach you how to lucid dream too if you want, you can be lazy with that too
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>>128211209

as for the kyballion it has points like this:

take something like love and hate, they're two sides of the same thing (rather than separate energy) they're just at opposite poles with a spectrum if everything else in between

because they come from the same place through manipulation you can easily change one to the other and vice versa

if you understand and can connect with that energy then you can control it and use it to your advantage even where other people are concerned

the same with indifference and interest and so on

useful tools for something like politics
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>>128212716

*of not "if" sorry
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>>128212716
oh thanks, what are some other main points of the kyballion?
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>>128187392
How does one reconcile being a buddhist with being a white nationalist, racist, genocide supporter
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>>128206248
And does it matter what the masses do while you try to lead them to virtue? Caesar describes the barbarian druids as discussing and debating the nature of the gods, while a greek text outlines the view of the gods espoused by the poster to whom you responded.
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>>128213593
Heck, maybe those commoners were right, or maybe there's another truth that leaves both viewpoints incomplete.
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>>128213564
We fallow the Burmese example.
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>>128213831
Yeah but how do you reconcile that with buddhist scriptures and principles?
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>>128213564
Not pro-genocide, I want them to live in their own ethnostates
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>>128213354

i'll be honest i don't remember every principle of energy in it offhand, i gave you the one i was most familiar with

there's also the idea of feminine and masculine energy in there, similar to the way the concepts on yin and yang are described in eastern culture

a lot of it talks about how ideas we have are manifested into reality through assertion of will and manipulation of the energy in any situation you face

a way to see that principle illustrated is something like laws or government, any strong leader takes their ideas and manifests them into reality by following the principles of manipulation of the people around them

take leaders like hitler or stalin for example, they both had very humble beginnings and went on to achieve great power and accomplish many things through understanding and utilizing the energy of the country they were in and the people

they saw the nature of the world around them and capitalized on it to assert their will

everything that happens and everything that doesn't is simply a manifestation of people exercising their ideas and power or bending to those of others
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>>128212716
I can manipulate things to my will and I understand everything you're talking about, though it feels quit dumbed down.

I was never taught how do to these things, it seemed intrinsic always. what does it mean?
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>>128208145
I practiced for over 15 years, undestanding the dharma on an intellectual level, but once I realized my emotions are also mind generated illusion, those same emotions lost there impact.
Now, when an emotion arises, I regard it as no more real than a dream. I could spend the rest of my life on a deserted island and live quietly, cleanly, and joyfully simply because I don't believe thoughts and emotions are anything more than an idle curiosity.
That realization, after 15 years, happened suddenly and was as fast as turning on a light switch.
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>>128215940

well i explained it simply because it is simple, there's no point in explaining it in an overly complex way that just alienates people and makes them feel like they're reading a load of new age-esque bullshit you know?

before my own experiences i wrote off a lot of this and wouldn't give it the time of day, and part of that came from the way people who practice and believe speak about it because they really put me off with their language

i prefer to keep things easy because people are more open when things don't sound like total garbage

it just means you naturally do that kind of thing and have an innate understanding and feel for it, you don't have to practice it the way someone else might and you don't require that conscious awareness

have you tried third eye meditation or anything along those lines? i gave a brief description of how to do it here:

>>128206805
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>>128216721
I think I've been doing that since I was younger, but it was a coping mechanism to dissociate. Eventually everything I wanted if i... whatever it enough, it would fall into my lap.

it's spooky, but I've harnessed it. which has made me quite lethargic desu. still having a nice time.

but yeah from how it's explained I do that except thats how I manipulate the future, using the same part of my brain that feels nostalgia and then accessing "memories" of that future inducing nostalgia for things that are merely a dream, now

dunno man. i feel like a baby with an ak :3
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>>128214034
There is no dogma or holy scripture in Buddhism. The sutras are just intuitions nudging the individual in the right direction.
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>>128217257

that's interesting, i've only experienced touches of that myself

my experiences have been very different than that and aren't the same kind of thing

i understand the principles of the kyballion, but i haven't felt the desire to utilize them i have other distractions currently

the way you've described it is very similar to the ideas in hermeticism though, it sounds like you've just naturally harnessed that energy

it makes sense that it's something you've done since you were a child though, i've noticed (from my own childhood and just in general) that children are much more open to these kinds of ideas and tend to utilize them naturally and it's only as they get older that they lose it

seems like it's a matter of people having it crushed out of them by others than anything

you should try really focusing on meditation, you might find a direction to put that energy into that works for you instead of just waving it around wildly

you can grow up and keep the ak you know?
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>>128218986
that's what I'm doing

it's very fun... experimenting

I usually mediate to mongol music, or other things. I never really thought of it as mediation though, but I guess it is now that I think about it.

never had this binary view of the world, and idk. I ain't crazy but sometimes I wish I was cus with all things it's a be careful what ya wish for, but it's all learning
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>>128220526

that's all you really can do, i wish i was a better candidate for a guide when it comes to this kind of thing

but i'm honestly in over my head with my own experiences and sorting them out it's only been in the recent past that i've really reached out and started trying to learn these things and find outside perspectives and wisdom in other areas

it really does make you feel crazy though, and yeah there's points where it feels like being crazy would be easier in a way

at least i've felt that way too, because it would make more sense with the view of the world i used to have

at the same time accepting it comes with a different kind of freedom and the ability to explore things in ways you couldn't before

i've never been good with meditating to music or anything, but i can do it when i play music oddly enough and during sex there's ways to do that as well but otherwise it's just a quiet solitary thing for me

my ex used to tell me that when you wanted guidance or a sign all you had to do was ask for it during meditation and you'd get what you wanted (after i had what she said was a "calling" dream she suggested making an offering and things went from there, but i imagine if nothing has called you there's nothing to make an offering to), so if you feel like a baby with all of this still maybe that's a step you should take to find where you could be better utilizing your knowledge/abilities

hope that helps, and my best advice is honestly to just run with where this all leads, it seems to be a deeply personal thing rather than a one size fits all experience but the principles remain the same regardless
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>>128222038
no offense but it sounds like they're all babies, now it feels like I'm a baby with the knowledge in my DNA to fire kalishnakov

idk i can't deal with the mumbo jumbo trying to explain it, ya know? it's more than just abstract and u either get it or ya don't best u can do is find people who've gotten there on their own and assure them they ain't schizo (less they are)

idk it's nice... absurdism is my belief in the core though
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>>128187392
>>Strongly Egalitarian and Universalist in belief, put other Christians above Family and Nation
no
Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.1 Timothy 5:8
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>>128223273

i get it, like i said that's the kind of thing that put me off initially as well

i haven't had a choice in the directions things have gone in though, my situation is a bit... complicated to say the least

just keep an open mind and try not to let other people put you off from your experiences

do you mean babies in the sense that people just all flail without full understanding whether they can access something or not? because honestly i haven't met many people who don't fit that description, but i have met ones who are

it's easy to brush off though, especially with the language people use and the way they say things because it's like they purposely try to make things inaccessible and weird, but the more i delve into this and ignore that the more sense it all makes

that being said i'm not sure if there's any way a person can fully understand any of this

i have mixed feelings about absurdism, but everything in my life has suggested fate is something that exists and so on
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>>128224731
Jesus said
>For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36 And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.
>also anything written (((Paul of Tarsus))) a literal Judaizer
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>>128224964
fate is moldable just like any other thing, absurdism is simply the ground work, the structure of my belief system, what's built on top is different
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>>128187392
>hyperborean are entirely modern
>is mentioned in the Vedas
Ok
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>>128225851

not in my experience, maybe for other people but for me that's not how it works

if everything i've experienced is true the way it's laid out of me then i know how i'll die already
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>>128228593
you can mold it all~ you just have to hop
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>>128228733

no matter where i've hopped or how far i think i've gotten away from it things happen that suggest otherwise

in my experience and from what i've seen people experience fate to varying degrees, i just seem to be pulled more than others

i've accepted it, i'm not bothered by it

i look at it like i can mold everything leading up to everything else, but i can't escape what's meant to be
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>>128187392

Buddhism is the true Religion of Peace!
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>>128231212
Wise words from a wise religion
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