can someone give me the quick rundown on MK ULTRA / LSD / Tavistock?

Take the damn drug if you aren't scared or stupid
Don't otherwise

All you need to know

>>128182004
check out vigilantcitizen article on the topic

>>128182216
i do, and i do DMT. more interested in the conspiracies behind it

>>128182713
Oh well sorry then, cant help you.

They thought that stupid doses of lsd could brainwash / reset ones mentality. They experimented on civilians, children, even their own members.

At least one death due to illegally injecting a soldier with ridiculous amounts of lsd which culminated with him dying.

Your country is fucked man

LSD is a fairly potent drug. In its crystal form you could fit enough to dose every person in the United States in a duffel bag. Its not to be taken lightly or recreationally.

>>128183581
Nobody gets proper LSD anymore, it's just varying gradients of garbage.

>>128183522
They also dosed a guys toothpaste and he jumped off of a hotel balcony.

>>128183733
Well, most people don't. Its out there but its not common.

>>128182713
it was a new and interesting thing back then, and the CIA was looking for ANY substance that could be used as a "truth serum". it worked in some ways, but was far too dangerous in its ability to break down mental walls, so they poisoned a good bit of the stuff they were releasing to college students through professors. a few brain-damaged white kids later its illegal. not much left to say.

>>128183733
I've taken a thumbprint before. Shit changed my life. Can't recommend it to your average human. Peyote though, everyone should take it at least once at 18 to figure out what they are made of, so to speak.

>>128182004
i know about MK ULTRA

>american prisoners in vietnam come back as hardcore commies
>US govt apalled
>assume commies must be successfully brainwashing people
>US govt invests shit ton of money in CIA to create mind control program similar to commies
>CIA uses LSD and electroshock therapy to induce artificial amnesia
>put helmet on subjects which plays a recording of false memories
>its working
>subjects do not have any memories they dont know who they are
>subjects their brains do not record new memories
>brainwashing does not exist, it is fiction
>turns out hardcore commie veterans were given cigarettes by commie soldiers and were treated really well
>soldiers became communist willingly
>MK ULTRA was shut down

>>128184476
Why? The government experimented on loads of people with some heavy duty drugs. Some of the people involved are still in politics today.

>>128184774
Ahhh you're leaving out some core bits.
It started with Korean vets.
There was a priest in Russia that they drugged up and got to confess to stuff he was in no place to do.
Nazis ran expiraments with mescaline and hypnosis.
If there was nothing to it, they would have never burned 99% of the documents.
The project continues today except people take the drugs willingly.

>>128185085
Why do you have to be a dick about it? We are all equals here. Would you rather someone with little knowledge take their questions to((google)) or here?

>>128185085
Interesting.

Define why.

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>>128185587
Fuck you, go somewhere else if you are only here to berate people, and not to share what knowledge you have. That's the real engine of this place: free information exchange. So you can keep being a shit talking little cock sleeve and not contribute SHIT. Or you can add to the dialogue and help someone learn something. Faggot.

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>>128183733
>>128183868
Most LSD ("Acid") out there is not LSD. Most people who say they do LSD, it's not LSD... most of the stuff going around is in the 2C family, among many other research chemicals.

Now I'm not saying they won't give you similar effects... it's just that it's not LSD.

>>128185678
And in GLP you can't say Tavistock at all.

Double interesting.

>>128186004
True that. I got some N-Bome shit a couple of times. Not great stuff. Wound up making some friends with the Family, they had an actual legit chemist. Albeit this was almost a decade ago.

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>>128182713
I've heard that the elites are using it to communicate with the evil "lizard type" ET's that apparently run this planet.

>>128186299
Nigger I been here since 05. Came for the gore and porn, stayed for the politics. Suck my dick.

>>128184774

>it was shutdown

>>128186414
I've heard that about Ketamine.

>>128186617
You fucking wot m8? Why are you even here? Psychadelic drugs are something to be taken seriously. If trying to help an anon out is wrong I ain't about to be right. You seem to know an awful lot about reddit, you sure you aren't projecting?

>>128186004
erlich's reagent will tell you if you have an indole (lsd, dmt, etc). Color does not change for NBOMe/2cb

>>128186748
Didn't start on news nigger.

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>>128182004

>>128182004
>>128182004

Tavistock invented Beatlemania and the notion of manufactured hysteria thrgh the new medium of television, and worked with the CIA to prompte LSD through their puppets.

The general conspiracy theory that is current suggests that the game was orchestrating youth culture and neutering the revolutionary vibe that was in the air through drugs.

I believe there was a guy called' Ronald Black', who was the CIA go between between Tavistock, The Brotherhood of Eternal Light and famous chemist Oswald Stanley III.

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>>128187198
>Psychadelic drugs are something to be taken seriously


Not really, Thats where youre going wrong.

Lighten up.

Have a laugh mate.
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>>128188087
let me ask you a question.
is MK ULTRA a conspiracy theory?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKPSPfsYjZo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1uhjBDBiP4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpy8LGVWQ-k&feature=youtu.be

>>128187990
Went on b for gore and porn you not reading fucking reply piece of shit. This is the last (you) you're getting from me. Thanks for bumping the thread shithead.

>>128188406
Nope. Its a fact. The government has admitted to it and paid people in court.

>>128188548
>newfag
gb2/b/

>>128188622
correct.

>>128188909
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templo_de_Set

Aquino it's still censored from wikipedia.

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This shit is free on the internet. Read up nyugga

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>>128189270
This book has a shitload of Aquino in it. There are free pdf copies. I bought a hard copy because I wanted to support the researcher.

>>128189301
>>128189118
>search the internet

literally the opposite of a quick rundown since every site about it is tons and tons of pages

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This is a great starting place for an overview of the subject

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>>128189487
Yeah that other guy is a nigger. Disregard. He has nothing of value to input.

idk about you guys but lsd is fun on certain occasions

>>128189798
Yeah... Unfortunately the CIA was testing dosages FAR beyond "fun" levels. I'm talking 1500 micrograms plus. Then playing weird head games and or torturing people.

>>128189798
doses are fucking great, but i'm an old fag and don't have connections anymore

>>128190316
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Cia used lsd to test out mind control, used prisoners, soldiers, etc as test subjects. Whitey bulger participated in mk ultra.

>>128183733
thats so wrong... USA is saturated with LSD, hell I know people in the middle of nowhere who have dozens of grams of LSD crystal.

Which is the equivalent of tens of thousands of doses, this is in northern maine mind you

>>128189639
>>128189530
>>128189487
>>128189459

Im always looking for tavistock related stuff, but i never find much directly discussing their iactivities. More they are mentioned in passing in other MK ULTRA related research, where it is alleged that they play a massive theoretical role in the whole episode.

Also they came up with the idea that they could generate hysteria through 'herd instinct' by playing pre-recorded screams at Beatles concerts. It worked, and the Beatles became 'bigger than Jesus'

Common sense would suggest that an evolution of these techniques would still today, and that they would not be confined to the arena of 'pop music'- that why it's interesting to me, and also /pol/-related.

>>128190396
meh, i'm not that tech savvy and have a family now. it's simply not worth it to me to get pinched for a fry. I'd do it again someday, but only if it was through friends.

>>128190872
fuck up niggertits,
>GOOGLE
shows what you know. lrn2 internet, you cock-breathed arse-wipe.

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>>128191288
16 posts by this ID

>>128191554
Here's a 2nd one for you.
Go fuck yourself Muritard.

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y'all niggaz need the trivium

gnosticmedia.com
triviumeducation.com
https://www.youtube.com/user/GnosticMedia/

>>128190558
cry moar.. i wanted others opinons/thoughts on mkultra. not the entirety of all conspiracy theories that are everywhere else

>>128183733
>>128183868
>>128186004
All wrong ive gone out of my way to do individual research chemicals, and I have also gotten lsd off the street pretty easily. Not very strong most of the time but it was still acid.

>>128192284
i have a hankering to have a discussion with other /pol/ users about a subject i'm interested in. hide the thread if you dont like it

>>128192572
mk-ultra was a real, confirmed CIA operation. kill yourself

>>128183522
>Your country is fucked man
>[Funky Town intensifies]
You spics are funny.

>>128192405
ignore cock-breath, hide cock-breath posts

decent thread about /pol/ related activities, which i am also interested in.

>>128193317

>CIA backed

Even then your tax dollars go directly to finance the end of the world. At least we recognize the enemy without fear of being labeled a "racist".

>>128193344
20 posts reminding everyone that you're a gigantic faggot.

Thanks for contributing so much to this board.

did someone complain about cockbreath, or are the mods actually doing their job unbidden?

if so- good work lads.

>>128184200
larping as chinacat lmao

>>128194111
Who dat

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Got 4 tabs for this weekend. It's probably the most fun drug, especially when taken with people you like.

>>128182004
LSD and Shrooms are fucking awful. Worst drugs ever I have no idea how people like doing that shit. Both my experiences with both of those drugs were terrible they fuck you up beyond belief. If you like doing psychedelics you REALLY have to like getting fucked up because those things really bring you to a whole different type of high. I don't enjoy that type of shit

>>128194689
better take those all to yourself anon

Is CIA pure evil lads?

All falseflags, wars (lying about WMDs), drugs and assassinations of US civilians, brainwashing innocents etc. fald back on them

Even supporting Al Qaeda and ISIS

>>128194837
Unfortunately, I only get 2. I promised a couple party girls I'd get them acid this weekend so I'm giving them each one and taking the rest. I've also heard its not very good, which is a shame.

>>128194921
>he even had to ask that question
Fucking dumbass

>>128194740
If a bad experience is what you need, its what you will get. If you need a good experience, so you shall have it.

>>128194740
or maybe you just have the mental fortitude of a nigger child

>>128182004
dancing tomorrow on a couple tabs.. found a guy with microdots

good for channeling into something constructive.. like dancing

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There's a horror movie called Banshee Chapter. What most people don't know is that the entire movie is based off real research notes / eye witness testimony

Also LSD is shit, I only use a high dose mixture of ketamine and DMT to communicate with them

>>128194976
shit is going to get weird once you take acid with them and they find out what LSD isn't. can go either way, no mean?

>>128195050
Nah I'm just not some fuckup that needs to alter his mind that much to feel happy.

The pseudo intellectuals who take psychedelics are fucking cancer. Most awful people to be around. Think they're smart because they're drugs make them think they understand shit better than others when in reality they are just giving themselves schizophrenia

>>128195439
>to feel happy
there's your issue right there, friendo ;^)

>>128195339
That's the goal. I've taken it a handful of times and know how to conduct myself on it, but both of them are new to it, so we'll see where the night leads.

Wow!! A thread that started about one thing devolves into psychotic fags talking about the drugs they do.
Great on-topic, appropriate, informative, janitor-approved POLITICS thread

>>128195439
Negative sergeant.

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>>128187456
It's so fucked up that this actually happened and yet we continue on in our daily lives.

This shit only happened like 60 years ago.

God knows what details they destroyed when they apparently axed the program.

>>128195756
Fuck off. Everyone who does psychedelics is a mentally ill faggot who thinks they know better than everyone but is giving themselves schizophrenia while simultaneously failing community college

I really understand why people hated hippies so much back in the 60's if I was around retards who did this shit all the time I would've killed myself

>>128195815
Be careful m80. You can monitor your reactions, not theirs. Have a bottle of hard liquor and some soda on hand to bring them down if they start wigging out. Trust me. Benzos or hard liquor keep people from spinning out of control on that stuff. You don't know what kind of mind you are souping up. Tread lightly.

>>128196357
In gonna need a source on "giving themselves schizophrenia" like marijuana it can compound mental health issues, but it isn't the root of the problem.

>>128196357
oh, i get it now... forgot that summer was here already

>>128196429
>Benzos
this... have some xanax on hand and give it to them if they wig out. benadryl works too - just knocks you out

but he said it's weak, so i doubt there'll be any issues

>>128196429
They're each only getting one hit. I've never escaped reality off of one hit. It took me 4, before I got to the point where I wasn't self aware. I've known both of them for a minute and i used to deal with my cutting roommate when she would fry, so these 2 middle class girls won't be too bad.

>>128196357
reminder mentally ill faggots are just as bad as the shit posting sperging out autists

>>128196820
Personally I used to like the fear and loathing experience. 10 blotters+100 proof rum+cocaine+ whippets. Definitely abused psychedelics a few times. They shouldn't be used like that. Live and learn I guess.

>>128196889
Word. I had an experience where me and 3 buddies were having to restrain a 200 lb marine because he didn't know what he was doing and ate half a sheet.

>>128196628
It's not that you actually get schizophrenia. I'm just equating the effects of long term and repeated psychedelic usage to symptoms of schizophrenia.

The guys I know who use psychedelics often both have delusions and are paranoid as fuck. They're both also complete losers because they're tripping has convinced them that life is meaningless and jobs and school only keep you back from learning the real truth from drugs.

>>128182004
Dumb pseudo science to justify psychopath kikes their sadistic thrills using stupid pedophile ciafags to rape kids with.

>>128190632
>Also they came up with the idea that they could generate hysteria through 'herd instinct' by playing pre-recorded screams at Beatles concerts. It worked, and the Beatles became 'bigger than Jesus'
Interesting if true, so much of marketing plays on psychology already that it wouldn't surprise me at all. Edward Bernays was one of the fathers of modern PR and advertising and he was Freud's nephew, not a coincidence as he relied heavily on psychology in his ad campaigns.

>>128197265
2 of my friends took 6 tabs and tried to kill themselves in the same bathtub in a suicide pact. People go overboard, and it's crazy what LSD can so to people. However, if you ever get the chance. Trip on 3 or 4 and watch fractal videos, or adult swim off the air. Your mind goes 1,000,000 miles a minute and it's crazy the types of topics you fly through in your head.

>>128196429
Holy fuck you millenials are fucking faggots.

Not only are you fucking pussies, but you have the entire internet at your disposal to look at the risk of hallucinogens, and you are still a faggot about it.

>dose up as high as you can your first time as you will never break the boundary again
>stay outside, ideally a place without a ton of people
>smoke weed on the comedown
>don't freak out and enjoy the ride

>>128195439
Plenty of very intelligent people have used psychedelics, including the people that developed many of them. Don't be a dumbass, it's just a drug.

>>128182606
This
Vigilantcitizen is a fucking boss

>>128197395
i think you're mixing up retards doing drugs and normal people doing drugs

>>128186585
underrated

>>128197709
Smoking about ~1 hour in is usually what triggers me into the first peak, and it's more fun, because I go full retard.

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>>128183733
>>128186004
Maybe you nerds don't lmao

>>128197709
I have different rules for myself than what I would give to other people. Sue me

Acid is based af, its roots with the govt just make it more badass. My govt is my drug lord. Weed and psychedelics master race

>>128197786
True but mostly idiots use drugs

>>128198054
Maybe so. All I'm asserting though is that from my experiences with LSD and Shrooms, both of which I only did once, I really didn't like either and just couldn't understand afterwards how people could enjoy fucking themselves up that much. I didn't get any enlightenment from it or anything, just a not very enjoyable and scary experience both times

>>128199513
refer to >>128195050

>>128199513
Historically speaking, doing terrifying things and surviving them has been a rite of passage in most cultures. Pushing the outer limits of your mind or body can be an enriching experience.

>>128182004

Dunno, they have my file though.

>>128194740
i have not done many drugs at all, but recently i tried LSD and loved it...all about setting and having agency over your own thoughts...if eithe rof those is fucked...you will have a bad time.

>>128186414
On DMT I spoke to several entities that were not....animal in any way. Light beings if you will

>>128194921

They are the logical conclusion of "the ends justifies the means" mentality.

I do not fault them for what was done, I only wish they could move forward from the lies and abuse.

I will if they do.

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>>128187456
One man was also given a partial lobotomy while on LSD and was told to describe what he was experiencing as it happened.

>>128197667
what are fractal videos?

asking for a friend

>>128186414
Adrenochrome

Shrooms are better than LED.

Psychedelics are being hijacked by mossad to brainwash people at psytrance festivals.

>>128201018
That's just adrenaline exposed to sunlight and allowed to "sour"

>>128200900
Just YouTube fractal videos. Essentially, they go on forever and it allows your mind to basically run wild because it's preoccupied with this infinite loop of useless information. That's also, theoretically the bases of all matter in the universe, so long as you could infinitely zoom in on it, or in this case out.

>>128186004
you gotta be a fool if you aint gettin 25i my man. tragic.

>>128182004
lsd makes you extremely vulnerable to suggestion, hence it was used in the initial testing of mkultra. media and storytelling have a potnetially equal hypnotic effect in high doses, so this has been a more economical model for decades

>>128201371
gotcha.

as the old occultists used to say "as above, so below"

>>128183733
I saw this happen with MDMA, post 2008ish, when the average normie began taking MDMA at festivals, and festivals went from 10k attendees to 100k attendees.

MDMA slowly turned into methylone as dealers found the cheap RC China market.

My friend used to make $500 in a single night selling methylone as MDMA in clubs. This was just a few years ago.

Now real MDMA is insanely expensive and hard to come across.

LSD though is much harder to fake. Sure some RCs will fit on blotters, but most LSD is just extremely low dose. Like 75ug tabs. You'll get high but you won't be tripping. This is why so many people think "fake LSD" is going around, weak tabs.

After you've taken a 500ug+ dose you realize that most people who've "done acid" haven't really "done acid"

>>128182004
>vigilantcitizen
>>128182216
>>128182606


https://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/bilderberg-2017-the-agenda-and-the-full-attendees-list/

This bilderberg list is interesting

"Can globalisation be slowed down?"

>>128201559
That's something you do alone or with a really good friend that you can hang out with and not get annoyed by. It's crazy how hard you can concentrate on it, but the second someone talks it breaks it. If you ever get the chance, just take a few minutes to do it.

>>128201794
I've got a friend in Portland who makes the liquid stuff, and puts it in an eye dropper. I've never been so high, or had it hit me so quick as when I did the eye dropper.

>>128202092
Pure chemicals are always the strongest.

Lol @ people "it takes me 1 hour to come up on acid"

After I take acid I notice within 15-30 minutes. Every single time, unless I take a low dose then it's closer to an hour.

>>128201886
thanks,

so i have never hit a high dosage trip, what is it like to you?

>>128202299
>i laugh at people's onset times
>mine matches theirs sometimes
are you retarded?

>>128203066
I'm just saying most people have no idea what a full acid dose is like.

I've taken 4 tabs of acid that only got me a tiny fraction as high as 1 tab I bought of silkroad tested for 300ug. that means those 4 tabs had to be around 25-50ug each which is no where near enough for an actual trip.

>>128202965
The best way to describe it, is that no matter what you are thinking, it will seem rational. You can convince yourself you can fly, because your mind will jump through every mental hoop and make you believe it. Visuals are different for me depending on the acid. I've seen Red and blue orbs, I've seen every color on a picture break off and split into the rainbow, and I've also seen the entire room wavy and melting. As long as you're aware of yourself, and aware that you're on acid, you're fine. Just make sure to keep a level head, because shit can go downhill fast, and even if it's not real, your mind will rationalize it.

Thats how it is for me anyway.

>>128203699
thanks, i appreciate it

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>>128203699

>As long as you're aware of yourself

But where's the fun in that?

is there a new discord up?

i remember taking lsd with friends and one of them was telling me that when he waved his hand in front of his face it was blurry like in ops pic.

when i did it i didn't notice anything.

lsd is like going mad for a few hours then slowly picking up the pieces of your sanity again. for a time one of my friends kept repeating the same few sentences over and over again, like he was a broken record. and i kept laughing at it, over and over again. later when i was beginning to calm down and the others were still experiencing the trip i overheard them having a conversation and it was the dullest non-conversation that i had ever heard.

so yeah, never again.

>>128182713
I've read on some esoteric forums a long time ago that the whole psychedelic movement was kickstarted and funded by the CIA from the get-go. I read a few seemingly-legit articles that went into ridiculous detail about what they called the "deadhead" movement and how the CIA would use concerts as venues to sell their psyches. But who knows.

Here's the article if you're interested.
http://www.gnosticmedia.com/manufacturing-the-deadhead-a-product-of-social-engineering-by-joe-atwill-and-jan-irvin/

>>128184774
remember the numbers Mason

>>128205976
not sure what i think of that site in general, not based on that articles...but a few others just seem like they are peddling things semi-made up, the extra details also almost seem like a tell.

>>128206560
Take it how you will, it's an entertaining read even if it does happen to be complete bullshit.

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Just smoke weed, eat shrooms, and drink. You never know wtf you're getting anymore with anything that involves chemistry. i dont even bother anymore unless its a concert, camping, bbq w really close friends. no need to get too fucked up. DMT is a meme, fight me.

>>128206863
dmt isn't a meme. ever done ayahuasca?

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>>128206863

>DMT is a meme, fight me.

TELL THAT TO THE MACHINE ELVES!

>>128201066
Stay natural, my dudes.

>>128206969
No and nor have you, Joe Rogan.

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>>128205976
Jan Irvin (Gnostic Media) is pretty based, he's his /ownguy/, he's super literal though when it comes to his info (almost autistic tier but I respect him for pointing out degeneracy that is deeply entrenched in our media like arts,music,tv,etc)

>>128207149
I have. You can get the ingredients on ebay for $25 shipped

>>128205976
CIA niggers taking credit as usual, shamanic cultures have done it for thousands of years, it was massively distributed in the world until the shamanic genocide.

>>128206814
fair enough

>>128182713
You "do" DMT? Elaborate...

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>>128207482

>roommate calls it "doing" weed

it's some zersetzung shit, isn't it.

>>128207031
DMT is the gateway to the other dimensions existing parallel to our own.

LSD turns your brain backwards and that's why MK Ultra would force subjects to painful derision in front of a mirror.

>>128208328

Only for a brain inexperienced in usage.

Like giving coffee to someone who doesn't drink caffeine. Sometimes it'll make them shit, sometimes it won't.

>>128208513
>Only for a brain inexperienced in usage

Haha, you thought this was a bad thing.

>>128184774

Dude you are leaving out major gaps, and replacing real events with modified ones of your own making. That is not how it worked, anon.

The Russians did play around with mind control, but not as much as we thought they did. We were far worse. China went further than Russia with the experimentation, but again the US went far more in depth. If you want to hear some of the fuzzier and stranger elements of this story, study the franklin cover-up.

>>128208607

Nah, gave me a lot of perspective.

I traded a lot of math ability for the drugs, though.

>>128188488
go fuck your mother monkey

>>128182004
Hold on a sec anon wtf is that pic representing, I have that whenever I smoke weed (I'm not a degenerate, just answer the Q)

>>128209247
Take Tianeptine then

>>128209247
>Gave me a lot of perspective

Does have the tendency to do that, but you still considered being backward to be negative lol.
That's pretty amateur.

>>128209469

>I have that whenever I smoke weed

That's not weed m8

>>128209557

Because it is.

Depends what you're trying to accomplish, though.

>>128183739
makes u think if dey r still doin this wen dey do dem der (((apparent suicides)))

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I believe drugs, lab technique didn't work well so they resorted to old method of rape, indoctrination from young age. It partially explains pizzagate culture. See Boko Haram for ancient mind control threw rape/indoctrination.

“The children, who had not been bathed in several days when they were found, had insect bites and had not been fed in more than a day. Investigators said the children appeared to be ignorant of such daily conveniences as hot water and electricity.”

>nytimes.com/1987/02/08/us/inquiry-spreads-on-6-children-and-cult.html

“At least two of six disheveled children found in a Tallahassee, Fla., park and believed to be the offspring of members of a Washington-based cult had been sexually abused, police said Sunday.”

“Police have refused to comment on reports that the Finders, which apparently evolved from a 1960s-type commune, may have been involved in some kind of ritual practices.”

>articles.chicagotribune.com/1987-02-09/news/8701100820_1_sexual-abuse-school-for-brilliant-children-finders

“described in a court document as a cult that allegedly conducted brainwashing and used children in rituals."

“The Fourth Street warehouse, which authorities said also was used as a residence, had windows that were boarded shut. One wall was covered with a huge map of the world, lit by floodlights.

>washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1987/02/07/officials-describe-cult-rituals-in-child-abuse-case/11f05df1-48e0-41f7-b46d-249c0bd2bc39/

“The photographs were in a scrapbook titled "The Execution of Henrietta and Igor." In one picture, a crying child looked at a decapitated goat. Another photo was captioned, "Ben finds Henrietta's Womb." Three pictures showed children playing with goat fetuses.”

>washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1987/02/10/dc-police-finders-odd-not-criminal/7571c820-de20-4800-9781-711a8351f52f

CIA then cover up of all

>docslide.us/documents/finders-cult.html

>>128209727
It sadly is not.

It doesn't really.
What you accomplish with LSD will have to be derived from being backwards, otherwise you aren't using it correctly.
It's okay, you misunderstood.
Mistakes happen.

>>128209620
It is though, it happens when I get weed from any dealer, I think I'm just fucked lol.

Also, what a fucking surprise, the head of the MKULTRA program was (((Sidney Gottlieb)))

>>128209888

>implying I perceive my trips in the same manner as you

>>128210089
>relying on subjectivity to authenticate experience
Maybe you are backwards in the bad way haha.

>>128210189

:^)

If you only knew.

So backwards I went inside out, and back through again.

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>>128210089
>>128210189

>>128210421
I hope you didn't think you mystified me with what happens to virtually everyone their first trip lol.
I should be more sensitive to less developed versions of me. :)))

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>>128210564

Ever freebased a gram of DMT?

>>128195844
this thread is being taken off topic by (((them))), that is pretty obvious.

>>128210689
lol. joker

>>128210689
Can't say that I have, but I think it's more disconcerting that you believe the world views derived from either would be at all comparable lol.
Not that I wouldn't though.

>>128210903

Why not?

It's all waves anyway. Roll with them, or get sucked down by the current.

>>128210712
nah, the thread is just over and has run its course...but is starting to get bumped by people that are just interested in drugs in general and also people that are possibly damaged (see:>>128210903)

zombie thread, ignore it and it will go away

>>128211048
It's exhausting having to repeat myself, not to you specifically, but to poorly-initiated in general.
To accurately summarize, DMT takes you to other dimensions only loosely related to the construction of this one, but lacks the potent insights into this reality that LSD offers.
In other words, you can develop a working knowledge with LSD, while DMT shows you what's more closely related to the afterlife.

>It's all waves

You're starting to sound painfully new. I wish I was this optimistic, still thinking the world has a natural flow lol.

>>128211326

You attracted real life experiments!

>>128195044
>if you need to get wet, it will rain
t. (You)

>>128211403
hmm, making more sense now.

>>128211783
Aye, DMT allows you to communicate with spirits, LSD opens you up to the evils of man.

Snooty pretentions disengaged

>>128211403

>still thinking the world has a natural flow lol.

Your fault if you're still unable to see the music amongst the noise.

You sound disassociated, anon.

>>128211926
I believe it to be constructed rather than inherent.
"Only dead fish go with the flow."
Even Spirit Science agrees, as if that's a legitimate source of arcane knowledge lol.

Freemason here. Remember that the key is trauma. Trauma reshapes and reconfigures.

>>128212082

But the flow is the life and the death.

It is akin to the relationship between space and matter for this dimension.

You don't want to be an outlet?

>>128212581
There are many stakes to its direction, and its proponents erroneously assume universal reactions to subjective phenomena
Essentially, it is an easy way of looking at the world, not particularly an accurate one.
Life itself is much more ferocious and incomplete, nothing that can be resolved by "attenuating yourself to the world spirit."
>Be an outlet
For who's benefit?
Everyone is at any given moment.

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As someone who had a mental breakdown from using weed and subsequently NOPE'd out of psychoactive substances, these threads are a treat for me as I find drugs to be absolutely fascinating even though I can't use them. So, please continue.

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>>128197709
don't do this
LSD fucked me up for years

>>128211514
Believe it or not, with hallucinogens, you get what you ask for whether or not you realize what it even is. Bad trips have a cause.

>>128213426
I agree with this, I realise it was telling me how selfish I was after I experienced literal hell for 10 hours.
I wouldn't recommend it personally

>>128213930
Poor soul.
What it showed you is still there, just influencing you beyond your awareness.
SEEK HELP IMMEDIATELY

>>128182216
tttttttttthis

>>128212486
why is the freemason part relevant?

>>128214436
Because the Freemasons employ sadomasochistic rituals to ensure loyalty amongst their constituents.
>We raped you, but picked you up and made you one of us at your most vulnerable.
Military does more or less the same thing, except their homoeroticism is more formulaic than physical.

Someone post links or vids that will brainwash me, make me paranoid, make me kill myself or go insane. Thanks.

>>128183581
It should be taken if you have the balls.

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>>128214718

>>128197709
>not taking pure crystal LSD and going on an eternal hell trip through your fetal memories and encountering the God of your own birth
fucking normies get the fuck out of here

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Ted Kaczynski was a MKULTRA test subject, anons.

Just sayin.

>>128215599
I wish I knew what the other 99% of Mkultra was.
Imagine all the other projects that they successfully managed to destroy 100& of and we'll never find out.
It's terrifying to think what they are up to now, a new improved mkultra could be taking place in blacksites or even in new ways we wouldn't even understand on the general populace.

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>>128216179

Anonbro.

MKULTRA never went away. Look around.

It went "open air"...

>>128216394

I just wanna know what the hole in my shoulder means.

>>128214644
hmm, first i have heard of that.

Anyone care to confirm or offer rebuttal?

>>128214793
All the balls in the world won't help you if you are a shit human being. Mental fortitude has a lot to do with it, but if you are a shit person you are MUCH more likely to have a bad time. Same if you are in a bad place in your life.

>>128213152
>had a mental breakdown from using weed

how?

>>128216986
I would tend to agree. The best group bonding experiences suck super bad. But it sucks TOGETHER. Wherein the bonding happens.

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>>128217308
yeah, at first i admit iwas like...blah blah conspiracy....but in reality alot of the hazing stuff anywhere is all group dynamics. It could make sense.

Guess there is only one way to find out...wish me luck boys

>>128217552
>>128217552
You won't need luck. Depend on your comrades and yourself. That's all you will have. Picke each other up and continually make each other better.

>>128182004
tavistock's a thinktank started by brits at the tail end of ww2, ostensibly for fixing PTSD and shit

In actuality it's a bunch of child psychologists figuring out how to manipulate the public by inducing them to an infantile state, and tavistock is basically the foundation of modern advertising/marketing the world over and why so many leftists seem to act and behave like literal children.

The next time you see bullshit about a safe space, lefties needing their college kindergarten rooms, bright pastel colors splattered on everything, and dumbed-down language and newspeak that constantly references childhood subjects like starwars and harry potter; that is tavistock's research in action.

People are easier to figure out, predict, and manipulate, when they behave like children rather than adults.

>>128218025
these cunts even invented the false memory syndrome to discredit child abuse victims/