Thoughts on European paganism?

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>>128175187

Not for you

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Middle East was european white before Islam

For people too unlikable for dungeons and dragons.

>>128175187
Should stay dead,its better of that way

>>128175326
any proof that nords or slavs practiced human sacrifice?

>>128175187

its a meme and the people who practice it just want to be different and get attention

>>128175326
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>>128175456
>always the same half nigger americuck who sucks kike on a stick cock in these threads
mad you still worship a kike?

>>128176045
t.kikelover

>>128175627
>this is what kike worshipers actually believe

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>>128175187
literall larping

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>be paranoid schizophrenic in black metal band
>Kill a guy because of your paranoid schizophrenia
>spend years hard time in jail like a nigger
>released from jail
>marry young stupid autistic girl who for some reason likes you
>have 5 kids you cant adequately support like a literal nigger
>support using welfare
>live in a shit shack in france with no bathroom and running water like a literal nigger
>excuse for this is you want to live more "simple off the grid life" despite still using internet
>claim to be a farmer but cant farm for shit (like a nigger)
>make excuses talking out your ass about how fruit trees cant handle the sunlight of france (there are literal flourishing fruit groves in flordia)
>make more excuses about snails and vermin eating your plants and saying "oh this is nature, we wont do anything about it"
>larp as a viking in the woods (like a literal autist)
>make failing dungeons and dragons copy
>become one of the most historically illiterate youtube personalities to ever exist
>make retarded claims such as that autistic people are more empathetic, that europeans are 100% neanderthal, and were all blonde
>ban people on youtube when they call you out on your retarded theories

why the fuck does anyone take varg seriously. He is by far one of the most retarded people I ever listened to. yet some people on here seem to worship him and buy into his absolutely retarded ideas.

also let me know if I forgot anything in the greentext there is just too much

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>>128175627
WE

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>>128176558

You beat me to it I was going to post that pic with the greentext

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>>128175326
>>128175415
>>128175456
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>>128175627
>>128175884
always this guy

people like this is why Christianity is failing in the west.

it's a globalist religion and this guy by his spamming this shit in every thread, proves it.

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>>128175187
because /nu/pol is just crypto-jews, they probably hate it.

>>128176558
>t. kikenstein juarez "brown eyes" muhammed ladasheeeet

>>128176558
any proof that varg is on welfare?

Not hard to believe that he can support himself as probably the most famous black metal musician in the world, royalties all going to him since one man band.

>>128176751
ignore burgers

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>>128175187
Pagansim is the rightful and genuine "belief"/"soul" in Europe.
Time to cleanse it for all the jewish/arab religions!

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>>128176911

You guys are literally larping and eating up opinions from probably the most historically illiterate youtube personality out there.

>>128176875
>royalties

From where?

No one buys CDs anymore. They don't play much black metal on the radio.

Dunno if Burzum is on Spotify, but most artists complain about how they pay shit


captcha: nature church

In it's memetic function, either Paganism is inferior to Christianity (judging by prevalence), or we ourselves are incapable of absorbing it because we are ourselves mudded (ala we are living in Kali Yuga).

>>128176602
doing that meme wrong
the joke in we wuz kangs is that niggers were never kings
stupid wop grease ball guido

>worshipping the son of god
sounds like just another pagan story

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>>128177209
WUZ

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>>128177066
>muh larping

retarded burger

>>128177209
yeah you uneducated burger shit, just like kikes were never white or european. now pray to your kike messiah.

>>128176558
>https://thuleanperspective.com/tag/marie-cachet/

>Shortly after the release from custody, my wife and I got our children back, in spite of my parents-in-law, who wrote a letter to a judge and tried to take our children from us. They wanted to keep them, to spare them of the ‘evil Nazi’ influence of their parents and to send them to public school (we home-school our children, something they obviously don’t approve of).

Also add in that his wife's parents hate him and tried to send him to jail to get his children away from him. He's a useless snow nigger.

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>>128175187
Indo-European Paganism is a steppe religion that entered Europe a few thousand years ago as a foreign practice, it pretty much destroyed the old faiths but absorbed the local customs nonetheless. Christianity did exactly the same thing, except that they preserved more information and didn't bring a horde from the East to racemix with the natives, yet tards like Varg sit in their gibs van and excitedly wait for an Islamic invasion

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>larping

nu/pol/ terminology for actually believing in something other than their crucified kike

>>128177094
Most royalties are tshirts which artists make way more money from than music anyway. I see burzum tshirts all the time, hes definitely selling a ton.

Spotify may pay shit if your a 4 man band but its a different story if you have nobody to split it with.

Before the youtube adpocalypse I know for a fact jsut form ads he would be making enough money. I know a guy who gets half the views varg does and uploaded less videos and made a full living off it, traveling the world while making videos.

He also made a bunch on donations.

>>128177562
biggest difference is that it came with large scale population changes in Europe, especially in the north, unlike with your foreign israelite cult
and we are still talking many thousand years BC

>>128177562
>Christianity did exactly the same thing
except that they were kikes.

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>>128176875
Nah there is no proof. He have 5 kids(in France) and they most likely make less than minimum wage which means they get into a taxbracket is probably is close to zero.

The more kids you have the lower tax bracket you get into.
The less money you make the lower tax bracket you get into.

Also they grow tons of food and have two huge pens with hens, I don't believe they don't have indoor plumbing(atleast no water for the toilet), they have solar panels.

Those people could probably be able to live on an income of 500 dollars a month, highly doubtful he doesn't make that much money from both their youtube channels, their game/books and his music

although they could be on welfare, i don't fucking know but I doubt it

>>128177562
lel Europeans are indo-European though so basically WE brought it with US.

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>>128176020
Archeogloy

why is this dumb ass varg idiot always associated with paganism on this kike worshiping board? face it kike cucks, no one with half a brain takes him serious, it's like your US tv preachers, oh sorry, i forgot, you actually pay them money.

>>128176946
No. Literally every major accomplishment in post-Roman Europe has been done by Christians. The finest art, most glorious architecture, most beautiful music, literature, and science all done by Christians. It was Christians who drove Muslims out of Spain. It was Christians that conquered the world. It was Christians who made every notable cultural or scientific advancement.

I could at least respect neopagans if they LARPed as Romans or Greeks, because they actually accomplished things before Christianity. But no, it's always the Norse, people looking up to little more than pirates, rapists and thieves. They enslaved defenceless villagers, slaughtered monks, then fled at the first sign of a real army. They got slaughtered in any real battles. The ancient Norse made no great accomplishments of any kind, while Christians where building grand cathedrals, the Pagans carved stones. While Christians launched attacks against Jerusalem and Muslim spain, Pagans killed peasants.

Everything that makes Europe great was done by Christians, and you neopagan faggots want to undo it all because "muh ancestors", despite the fact that your ancestors have been Christian for at least a thousand years.

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>Archeogloy
wat? did your kike messiah mess you up boi?

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>>128177666
OY VEY

>>128175415
>rooting for your own side is wrong
Hi Leftist.

>>128178490
Literally every major accomplishment in post-Roman Europe has been done by Europeans who would've done it anyway even if they weren't worshipping a crucified israelite.

>>128178653
"Your side" doesn't exist. You lost centuries ago.

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DYN DYU NOTHIN

>>128177798
>large scale population changes in Europe
Yes, they race mixed to the extent that roughly 20% of White ancestry descends from them. I know you believe in some idea like 'religion comes from blood' but I've been unable to find any traditional literature supporting this, only crackpot neopagan theories; however if you have sources I'll be happy to read

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I am interested in Paganism and Christianity history in Europe. Any recommended reading?

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>>128175187
Norwegians, swedes and danes that still cling onto their old paganism disappoint me so much. Not only were vikings filthy savages with no sense of nation or organization but post-christianization (prolly spelt that wrong lol) Scandinavia was so much more interesting and at least they had some sort of place in the world stage.


stop embarrassing yourselves, you disappointments.

>>128178490
the reason people go with norse is because they are the only ones we have an extensive written record of their religion for.

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>>128179044
Start with book of Joshua. Lots of dead pagans.

>>128178490
i understand, your ancestors left europe (or africa?) and went to live on foreign soil. you lost all connection to your native homelands and are now lost. i totally understand that you don't have any culture that's your own and that must be hell. oh, and btw, literally all your holidays have pagan roots. well done kike lover living in someone elses land. i can't wait until natives, spics and niggers kill you or ship you back to europe where we will laugh at you 24/7. if you're not a european living in europe you're just another nigger refugee.

>>128176683
It's atheists that are causing the West to fall, well and (((them))), but that's a given

>>128179323
most norse were not vikings. They were very civilized with a common law system better than anything thats ever existed. Do you actually read history?

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>>128178968
>they race mixed to the extent that roughly 20% of White ancestry descends from them
wrong, it's more than 50% in north Europe and even in south Europe it's non trivial, but nice to see you have no rebuttal on it

anyway, stick to chopping your dicks off and sending billions to Israel, that's your place
people like you are why I think Europeans deserves to be ruled by abrahamitics

>>128175187
Too tribal, too divisive. Need some elements of Christianity to be inclusive to all whites, but leave non-whites out. Christianity's biggest mistake is that it accepts everyone.

>>128179581
>Conquering and carving your own piece of land in the new world is equitable to being a refugee

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>>128179764
We are a religion of peace. Seriously. OY GEVALT

>>128179323
Tryggvason please go

>>128179323
t.neo-marxist living in oslo, married to a somalian raising her nigger babies from 3 different niggers

>>128179643
>(((them)))
as in Christians?

>>128179394
I was looking for something a little more historical m9. >>128179581

>>128176020
Look up worship of Zalmoxis.
>>128176045
Snowflakes
>>128176060
>not being an atheist
Moron
>>128175187
>European roots
>paganism is actually less European than Christianity
Top kek, stop worshipping poo

Modern day "pagans" only LARP as such because they have a victim complex from big bad Christians. It's pretty fucking sad to pretend to worship trees just because it's tied to nationalism.

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>>128179044
Ressentment by Scheler. It counters Nietzsche and Spengler's claims that Christianity led to the cucked state of the West

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>>128175187

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>>128180027
Joshua chapter 1 verse 1

>>128180027
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aGZRZgsq_4

Also his video on Roman Paganism is pretty cozy
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw3CjmoB3oY

He is a Christian though and its all apart of his Church history series, but they're good.

>>128179825
lol, most of you never conquered anything except for jumbo fries and an egg mcmuffin, you just hopped on a ship in the 20th century and arrived on ellis island, then lived in a ghetto for 2 or 3 generations.

>>128179388
I don't buy this. Roman and Greek pantheons have more extensive, less biased written records that were recorded during their times. Most of what we know about Norse Paganism as a religion is derived from either enemies or from Christians centuries after the beliefs fell out of use.

Modern Norse Paganism has a lot of filling in the blanks, which leads to a feeling of inauthenticity and politicization.

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>>128179881
hurr durr spooky christianity ruin my gret cuntry and cultur!

>>128179323
Danes counquered the majority of England while pagan. Your ancestors (the pagan ones) discovered Greenland, Iceland and the Americas.. Swedes expanded eastwards, laying the foundations for the principalities that eventually formed Russia.

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>>128180367
gallus must be the most cozy SINCE THEY WERE THE ROMAN CHOP OFF OUR BALLS CULTGOYS

>>128175187
i like it a lot, contrary to Christianity and Islam it is actually European. on the other side i dislike how some people abuse the title of 'allfather' that our roots should be applied to all of mankind and that paganism should become a identity which includes other races.

>american niggers claiming to be neo-vikings

no just stop.

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>>128180605
BWAHAHAHAHA


ROMAN GALLUS LOOK IT IUP

>>128180235
not everybody is an edgy teenager looking for a meaning in life you dumb cunt. and paganism has nothing to do with nationalism, never has. now go and worship your kike messiah or kiss nigger feet like your pope cuck.

>>128180933
>centuries
Ah, yes. The immediate effect of Christianity at hand, I see!

>>128180921
And why is it always the Norse. I know there are enough MICK'D people here that we should be talking about the Celts too at least.

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>>128180933
Eastern ROME

>>128181189
but muh celts weren't super epic!

Neo-Paganism isn't a real religion. It's just what some right-wing/nationalist atheists call themselves because they don't want to be associated with the "atheist" category, which usually invokes left-wing redditcucks and marxist progressives. But if you really think about it, it's the exact same bullshit identity that's based on nothing more than a hatred of christians, no different than the modern atheist identity. Two sides of the same coin.

I don't think anyone actually believes in paganism. Again, it's just what right-wing people who want to take a stand against christianity because they don't want to associate with the other atheists. I think it's just LARPing. Also, it's interesting how there were many pagan pantheons from the romans to the greeks to the celts, but whenever someone ever invokes paganism, it's ALWAYS odin and thor. Why is this?

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>>128180822
Not as cozy as this though
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fft0ua9dRpg

>Christianity
>not even once

>>128180854
This shitty image would make more sense if Christianity wasn't the single most jew-hating religion out there

>Jesus went into the temples and told the greedy shlomos to fuck off
>regularly told pharisees that they're going to hell
>did away with (((sacrifices))) and (((circumcision)))

>>128181376
because thor and odin were really epic and cool and shoot lightning!

>>128175456

>>128181376
>Also, it's interesting how there were many pagan pantheons from the romans to the greeks to the celts, but whenever someone ever invokes paganism, it's ALWAYS odin and thor. Why is this?

I HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA AS A GAELIC NEOPAGAN THIS SHIT DRIVES ME CRAZY YOU ARE NOT ALL SCANDINAVIANS STOP ACTING LIKE THEM

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“When men fight with one another and the wife of the one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of him who is beating him and puts out her hand and seizes him by the genitalia, then you shall cut off her hand. Your eye shall have no pity.

He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD.
LOOK UP GALLUS

>>128181577
But doesn't Zeus shoot lightning?

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>>128175456
forgot image

>>128181376
>all pagans are right wing nut job losers like the wannabe natsoc larpers on /pol/
kys

>>128181376
>I don't think anyone actually believes in paganism
its just ancestor worship. we want to be a strong link in the chain of generations. we understand the break down of morality in the west so we return to something pre-christian. we do not take credit for what they did we just honor them. its like the greeks and their helenic spirit. it is just ancestor worship.

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>>128181530
>CHOPPING OFF MY BALSS IS PREFERABLE TO EVERY SITUATION

CVCK
CVCK
CVCK

incoming christian shitposting

>>128181571
Used to be only the Christians knew about Jewish tricks, their only redeeming feature. Now we all know, and crypto-Kikes are no longer needed to beat the real deal.

>>128181663
ok i convers to jew now i need at least 2 litning

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>>128181664
GALLUS
PAGANS CHOPPED OFF THEIR BALLS

LOOK UP GALLUS

>>128175187
in 2000 years time there will be people who talk about being Dragonborn and the lands of Tamriel, the Gods of Talos, etc.

>>128181894
It's called truth, Mohammad.

>>128180481
yes i forgot about the romans and greeks but they were pedos so are automatically discounted by most because this. At least by me

Christianity is a paint by numbers false religion built to pacify and usurp cultures the middle east had been trying to conquer for centuries. It's like a Frankenstein's monster, an abomination pieced together from bits of our old religions we were forced to forget. The "Christian" morals taught us are really just the European laws and morals we already had. We were made to forget what we ourselves created in order to submit to foreign invaders. We are taught that we are weak and incapable in the face of some jewish father figure that was built to appeal to our own morals and ideals. The Bible was written to convert Europeans into a pathetic, backwards culture united in fear of a middle eastern man that demands you abandon your old ways in the hopes that the little brown nose will save you.

Christianity is a cult built to make spineless cuckolds and traitors. Venerate your history, venerate your laws, and revere the world that your people built from rocks and trees. Yahweh and his kike on a stick have never done anything but betray you.

christcucks have been mad all day

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>>128181894
It's already here, in the name of globalization they will not rest until all the people of the earth is in communion with each other.

Daily reminder that Christians hates pic related.

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>>128182097
>>128182176
>>128182221
BALL LOPPERS
CULTGOYS

>>128180411
>all Americans are immigrants
>he's never been to New England
The American northeast is pure Saxon. Everyone has blond hair and blue eyes and crime is at virtually zero.

>>128182354
yep.

>>128182221
>muh wikipedia

WE WUZ BOATS!!

>>128179764
What was I supposed to rebut? Anyway even if that's true you haven't posted a source to your "blood = religion" idea that everything hinges upon

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Feeling devilish today

“When men fight with one another and the wife of the one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of him who is beating him and puts out her hand and seizes him by the genitalia, then you shall cut off her hand. Your eye shall have no pity.

He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

Pagancucks can't deal with this

>>128176911
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_BjPy19bYs

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>>128181937
i cant find any results, link me what you found

>>128179764
People not knowing who Constantine was.

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>>128182905
*smiling ensues*

>>128182461
if you're not a native american you're an immigrant and basically don't belong there, sorry. and yes, i've been to new england, very beautiful country. i can trace back my ancestors to way before america was even discovered (officially) and i prefer to stay where my ancestors are buried, thanks.

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OY VEY NO KEKOLDRY

THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY

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>>128182200
well put
it's no coincidence it spread like disease among the peasants of a dying Empire, which of course were the most susceptible to a religion that appealed to the weak and to the afterlife revenge

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>The path of the righteousmanis beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny ofevilmen. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and goodwill, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lostchildren. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the LORD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

How can paganiggers ever recover?

>>128182354
guarantee you most of those people in that pic vote liberal. i know many pagans in the USA quite well (even one was originally from baltics), most of them are not nationalist types but rather hippies.

just because it is white religion does not mean every white person practicing it is a national socialist who wants to kill all the jews and deport all the non-nordics from the nordic lands. lots of them just got interested in it because they were atheist but wanted to belong to something.

>make religion poll yesterday
>http://www.strawpoll.me/13091457
>doesnt get many replies
>some pagan cuck got on a vpn or something and started spamming this poll to shill for paganism

>>128180172
>Look up worship of Zalmoxis
Thrace was not Slavic at the time

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>>128183185
>"you are immigrants!"
>"don't think that conquering nativecucks and seizing their lands is very immigrant-y."
>"THATS LIKE LIRRALLY IMMIGRATION LOL NIGGER"
honestly get out

>>128182758
>What was I supposed to rebut?
your false equivalence comparing the spread of pagan European religions and cuckstianity
> you haven't posted a source to your "blood = religion" idea
that's just your typical christcuck strawman, I despise christianity for more than just being a foreign body to Europe which castrated my land for millennia and transformed us in a bunch of corrupted eunuchs

>>128183308
you know that's not a real bible verse right?

>>128183391
or maybe the russians hacked your shitty teenager poll?

>>128183372
>guarantee you most of those people in that pic vote liberal.

liberal white pagan > conservative Christian

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>>128183727
>USING TEENAGER AS AN ACTUAL INSULT

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>>128175415

>>128183523
les tha 1% of "americans" were actual conquerors achmed from somalia now living in oslo. now go and pray to your pedo prophet.

Paganism is the true religion. The gods have always been there. Christianity was just to cuck.

As Thales says, all is full of gods

>>128183750
if you truly believe that then you are a lost cause. these liberal peoples will open your borders and get rid of you faster far more than christianity ever could.

you guys were doing fine until the 1960s when you became liberal. if anything, the blackening of sweden has far more to do with than that what christianity ever preached.

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>>128183033
Dionysus of Halicarnassus records that specific laws were passed when some of the undesirable aspects of the cult became apparent. Cybele's religion was a bloody cult that required its priests and priestesses as well as followers to cut themselves during some rituals. The priests castrated themselves at their initiation; there was wild music, chanting, and frenzied dancing. During the Republic and early Empire, festival days were celebrated with eunuchs preceding the goddess through the streets, banging cymbals and drums, wearing bright attire and heavy jewelry, their hair long and 'greased'. Priests and priestesses were segregated, their activities confined to their temples, and Roman citizens were not allowed to walk in procession with them. Neither Roman citizens nor their slaves were allowed to become priests or priestess in the cult. No native-born Roman citizen was to be allowed to dress in bright colors, beg for alms, walk the streets with flute players or worship the goddess in 'wild Phrygian ceremonies'. Those Romans who wanted to continue to worship the goddess set up secret societies known as sodalitates so they could dine together in the goddess' honor.

>>128183750
>>guarantee you most of those people in that pic vote liberal.
>liberal white pagan > conservative Christian
hohohohoho
>swedan flag :-DD
HOHOHOHOHOHO!HO!

>>128183890
it actually is since your brain isn't fully developed until around 25 and you're basically mentally disabled before that. now go and pray to your prophet you "norwegian" from somalia.

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>>128183948
Traitors got to go first then the shitskins get exiled

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>>128183997
mm yes daddy keep talking about the good somali dick, why don't you call me teenager as well while you're at it?

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>>128181939
Praise Talos!

>>128175187
seriously though Satanism is the way to go. people get freaked out by it to easily because they are conditioned to. i recommend doing some research on it.

>>128184014
Nah Christianity was the problem and it only worked alright in Europe because it was contained IN Europe but because of its very nature of being a globalist religion, once the world opened up the true face of Christianity showed itself.

It's a religion for all, which was fine when ALL was Europe, but now ALL is the world.

It's time you let it go. A religion for all is a religion for none.

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>>128184313
>argument machine broke

>>128184386
suck on lutefisk you teenage nigger.

>>128184086
You do realize that Christianity castrated choir boys for hundreds of years

>>128175187
Degenerate, backwards, and part of the problem.

>>128184647
>look mom i have all these funny oictures i can post
>this make my arguments bullet proof!
literally kys

>>128184653
too big for me, daddy!

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>>128183559
>your false equivalence comparing the spread of pagan European religions and cuckstianity

So
>>Indo-European Paganism is a steppe religion that entered Europe a few thousand years ago as a foreign practice, it pretty much destroyed the old faiths but absorbed the local customs nonetheless. Christianity did exactly the same thing, except that they preserved more information and didn't bring a horde from the East to racemix with the natives, yet tards like Varg sit in their gibs van and excitedly wait for an Islamic invasion

Exactly where am I incorrect here? From what I've seen you pretty much believe the same thing, except added to that you're glad about the race-mixing so you can boast Aryan descent.

>I despise christianity for more than just being a foreign body to Europe which castrated my land for millennia and transformed us in a bunch of corrupted eunuchs
See >>128180248

>>128182200
What an emotional crock of shit. The US is falling apart now because of decades of demoralization
of our christian culture. It has been christians resisting the gay agenda and other degeneracy.
There has been no resistance from "pagans"
or atheist. You sit comfortable in a christian country built by christians based on christian law. Now as that christian law has been subverted by atheist, you want to blame christians.

>>128175187
I was baptised in a pagan fashion, in a river, by a neo germanic "priest", more of a druid really.
I wasnt very religious for most of my life, but I grew up with alot of the folklore, the Stories, the Gods. And while its beautiful and deep in its Culture and History, it carries no more weight in our Society today.
The very morals we build everything on, the morals that we have cultivated, altered, questioned, elaborated and discussed, the Morals and Beliefs in what is good and what isnt, are all based on Christianity. It was Christianity that lifted us out of the Mud, that made us the people we are today.
The Morals we wish to defend in the Face of the Rest of the World, the Morals we see underminded, slandered and cut to pieces werent always a part of us.
Why do you think all of what Jesus did, is concidered good, even by the most Atheist person you can imagine? Why is it that we hold those who refuse to take part in Violence, as those with the Moral High Ground against those who mearly display themselves as brutes, relishing in their Strenght?
Christianity is the Bedrock of Europe, of our Morals and our Achievements. No matter if you grew up in a Christian household or with a bunch of Fedora tipping Atheists. All our perceptions, Moral Theories and Ideas are ultimately based and thought from the Morals of Christianity. Remove these, and nothing remains.
Paganism is in our Past, and we do good in remembering it, and we do better to know when to fight, when Christ would have not.
But it does not offer anything for the Future, it was a cold, moral-free Belief, that asked its Believers to quench a neverending thirst for Blood.
Maybe in ancient times it was adequate, but it isnt anymore.

>>128184795
I mean, my arguments aren't just calling people somali and teenager because im not that heckin frickin insecure about my pimples!

>>128184770
>muh degeneracy
>worships a literal kike
>pope a literal cuck
>priest literal pedos ALL OVER THE FUCKING WORLD
>tv preachers literal adulterers and pedos
>MUH DEGENERACY
lol

>>128184627
not at all, if that were the case every christian nation would be globalist, yet many christian countries have stayed nationalist, including many in eastern europe.

you swedes are 85% atheist, with 97% of your people never setting foot in a church, and have the audacity to blame christianity for your problems. you really think changing jesus for odin is going to solve everything? these issues have far more to do with liberalization of social attitudes beginning with the 60s revolutions. this was brought on by economic prosperity and comfort more than religious belief.

>>128185046
ur being such a teenager rn baka

>>128184955
>The very morals we build everything on, the morals that we have cultivated, altered, questioned, elaborated and discussed, the Morals and Beliefs in what is good and what isnt, are all based on Christianity
Plato beat that shit by hundreds of years. Christ probably was aware of his writings

>>128184948
>christians resisting the gay agenda
>90% of priest literal 100% gay cock suckers
>resisting
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>128185046
swiss people did not even exist until after christianity, how could you be any different. you are a mixture of peoples, much like the americans.

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>>128184713
Not all Romans

>>128185067
>you really think changing jesus for odin is going to solve everything?
It can't hurt. Christianity has outlived any usefulness.

A real European identity is needed, it will be found in the Indo-European religions.

Anyway most Pagans or people who wear thor hammers in Sweden are definitely right-wing. It's basically as bad as wearing a swastika. So I also don't really buy the idea that Pagan are liberals, wiccans and shit over in anglo lands, sure but not in the rest of the pagan communities.

>>128185183
I have read Plato.
Many of the Things he suggested are far from anything we would concider Moral.
A state divided between Iron, Silver and Gold people, in which intellect carried you less far then looks.

>>128185258
when did u get ur first erection? I got mine two weeks ago, man, teenage life rocks! 13 years OLD! :)

>>128185368
That's the best you could do after googling to make sure I was right, huh?

>>128185139
>m-m-m-muh gay pedo priests
>m-m-m-m-muh kike on a stick
>muh turning the other cheek
>muh sheep
your religion is just hippie shit, deal with it ahmed.

>>128184653
>>128185258

Take a couple of Gold Blocks and drown yerself in the Geneva Sea will you?
This kind of edgyness isnt really helpful to the Discussion.

>>128184895
>Exactly where am I incorrect here?
see my original reply
the fact that its spread is in 1to1 correspondence with the spread of a new people is what makes it fundamentally different from christianity
Paganism is the result of this mix, and by being such is linked to blood.

Christianity is christianity, for a Finn or for a congolese nigger.

>>128185563
You haven't read Plato.

>>128185745
your people are roman no longer though, how could you go back to that religion. mixing of the blood has happened over years of conquest, no turning back that screw.

>>128185670
>muh urop being lost
>if thor an odin rule we wud not hav diS!
>man i really hate teenagers
>muh immigrant americans! >:(
>tenager so dumb -_-
honestly man ur gay lol

>>128185708
musst du nicht noch ein paar geflüchtete versorgen?

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they are gay

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>>128185658
>“When men fight with one another and the wife of the one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of him who is beating him and puts out her hand and seizes him by the genitalia, then you shall cut off her hand. Your eye shall have no pity.
>He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

No I knew about since I was eh a teenager Does that surpise you leaf? Kekekekek of course I know but that doesn't change the LAW. Which jesus ordered not to changethe spirit of a single Iota

>>128185670
>your religion is just hippie shit,
lol my boy that actually doesnt make sense

>>128185533
it is a cultural identifier only, no one believes in it. if you are tying your identity to something you don't believe in then you will fall behind.

you really think those guys believe in odin? no it is just the safe way to express disagreement since you cannot fly swastikas. but to believe your viking ancestors would have been nazi party members is laughable at best, you project your ideas onto them.

>>128186006
>every pagan pretends to be a norse pagan
oh look, it's ahmed again!

>>128185958
stop projecting Olaf Tyrone Gutierrez, Italics went nowhere

>>128186030
hallo ich bin fag und ein schweinhund
did you get my impression?
I am mikey bolts, yes

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>>128178243
Actually Europeans are mostly non-Indo-European

I think Europeans should go back to their pre-Indo-European religions

>>128186096
not for someone with an iq of 65.

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>>128186048
This they reject God so they can lop off their balls and fornicate with other men.

>>128186089
Something something new covenant which weasle cucks always bring up when they don't stone people for working on a Sunday

>>128186198
not true at all, the roman people themselves were globalists, wanting a home there and everywhere. your ancestors diluted themselves and no one else is to blame.

>>128186305
ok sorry

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Hand over the runes, Odhinn

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>>128186302
sorry, i don't speak somalian.

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>>128186486
I said stop projecting

>>128185745
So? Are you implying that Christianity gives no preference to a nation? God literally picked a specific nation as the chosen people before they betrayed him. He also ordered them to remain separate from the other races.
Justbecause a nigger and a white both follow the same faith doesn't mean that Christians should take them in. The nation is apart of your greater family and the church puts heavy emphasis on the family.
Sure the Catholic and Protestant Churches are cucked but Catholicism has been on a downward spiral ever since the schism and Protestantism is just an offshoot of that. The Orthodox Church in Russia even says that their laypeople must be nationalistic in some ways. Sure Christianity has become cucked but what else in the west hasn't?

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>>128186477
Faggots and cucks go to hell in Christianity. Silly Goy there's no such hting in Paganism

>>128175627
Mehmet is the only person there who doesn't have a European parent.

>>128186548
man, do you have tourettes? cause you seem to be writing your tics!

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>>128186477
Actually no that's a heresy called Marcionism. Jesus said the law was no abolished in it's INtent. So if Moses's intent was no fags and cucks then you're shit outta luck goy

>>128185793
I did.
I just utilised his Theory of State as he has extend his Theory of Individual Morality onto his State. Though it is different in some ways, I was attempting to show you an example that we today would not concider a good choice.

Though Greek Philosophy arguably had an impact on Christian Values as well, my point is that Greek and other "Pagan" Philosophies are in no way as influencial to us as Christianity was.

>>128185745
If we would all abide the same (christian) Morals from Congo to Finland, I highly doubt Africa would be the Shithole it is today.
Niggers usually utilise Islam or Christianity to put Responsibility on someone else e.g. God/Allah

>>128186030
Nichts für ungut, aber Muh Pedo Priester sind nicht wirklich ein Argument.
Paganismus hat seine Perks, aber ich frage mich warum Leute sich über Neger aufregen und im selben Atemzug plündernde Barbaren in die Höhe halten. (Zu mindestens bei germanischem Paganismus)

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>>128184955

i wholeheartedly agree. but regarding the most important issue, the current mass-migration to europe paganism got the edge over christianity since it preaches tribalism, blood and soil etc.

Christian Morals are extremely detrimental in our current situation.

>>128185533
> southern europeans who are 80% non-Indo-European should worship Indo-European gods

Nah LARPing is pathetic

>>128186637
if christfags give preference to a nation is not because of christianity, and christianity is almost by construction a religion that goes beyond tribalism, which was one of the main changed jeshua wanted with judaism, a much more tribal religion

Europeans desperately need a spiritual identity founded on blood and soil, christianity is as far as you can be from that

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>>128186667
Not true Niggers are not sons of Adam. Chinks Pajeets and arabs are mongrel mixes

>>128179764
>that image

What a load of shit. It's a completely false analogy. Islam is distinctly arabian. It originated there, it's holy books were written there, it's believers were there and it's been arabian for like 1400 years now. To force-convert europe to islam would indeed be an invasion of a entrenched foreign religion.

But that's not what happened with christianity. It developed within the roman empire. There were a few jewish believers at the very beginning, but the main evangelization occurred occurred in greece. The early christians were greek. The gospels are written in greek. The early church was greek. The entire eastern half of the empire was culturally hellenistic. Christianity developed in symbiosis with white civilization.

>>128175187
No sense trying to revive something dead. Jesus slayed the old gods when they became weak

Jesus is now weak, the forces of KEK and the flesh-consuming bull are fighting to take the reins

has swissfag left?
i miss his two great roasts. :(

>>128185745
No it's not. The white separatist christianity of the amish or the afrikaans in orania of South Africa is
going to have a different feel than a southern baptist in the US. Each one is emergent from the soul of the people.

>>128186996
Pagan south European religions are themselves a fusion of the Indo-Euro pantheon and the local cults
nobody is talking about worshipping the recontructed proto-Indo-European pantheon of the Yamnaya people
Latins and other Italics with their gods weren't certainly genetically Yamnaya when they entered the peninsula in the second millennia BC

>>128185533
>It's basically as bad as wearing a swastika

Why are you lying? Literally no one cares if you wear thor's hammer

>>128175187
It's interesting and an important part of our heritage but I can't force myself to believe it and it's too Larry to pretend

>>128187195
>Jesus is now weak, the forces of KEK and the flesh-consuming bull are fighting to take the reins
The forces of the normies rallied by their normie king of Sargon have already slayed kek even before it got off the ground.

>>128186646
> not knowing Hel is Norse pagan
> not knowing the Myth of Er
> not knowing Elysium or Tartarus

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>>128187347
PANthesists were goatfuckers.

BE PROUD SO PROUD

>>128187024
What about the Tower of Babel and the other examples I pointed out? God created men different and wants them to remain as such. Modern Christian it's has taken a massive departure from scripture, but once you delve into it more you can find things such as this.

Also Mark 12:17. Then Jesus said to them, "Give back to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's." And they were amazed at him.

So give to the Brits what is British, to the Japs what is Japanese and the Germans what is German, right?

>>128186935
Elaborate.
To my knowledge Christianity grants you the Right to defend yourself. Turn the other Cheek does not mean "bow your head when the Blade flies towards it."
Tribalism, blood and soil, are barely helpful aspects.
Europe does not share one Pagan Culture, in fact we were quite different and would probably be busy kicking the shit out of each other.
Christianity unites Europe, under one set of Morals, one set of Religion.
If we fight, we fight to defend those who believe in God, to defend the Christian Inheritance from our Ancestors, our Culture, and the way of life we were told is right.

>>128175187
The idea of Europe was founded with christianity.
Paganism is just related to barbarism and tribes. There was no european identity by then.
Having 1 faith gave us 1 culture. That´s all.
Most of ´em are just edgy kids roleplaying while white people go extinct in their nations.

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>>128187105
amazing damage control
easy, we just need for islam to stay in contact with some Europeans for a while then, then it will become "European"
maybe we can all convert to Balkan Islam, right?

no matter how hard you screech, jeshua and his hebraism 2.0 is never going to be European

>>128187528
Elysium is for heros only and it's like 12 men there, I'mnot even kidding. High ball is like eh maybe 50. Heroes have to be half god.

Everyone else forgot about their life by drinking fromLethe


Tartarus was for like 3 men and it was sorta a myth, Only PLato and his cult followers who was a monotheist beleived that Tartarus was for more than just those few men.

>>128187674
This tbqhwyf

>>128187195
>No sense trying to revive something dead
If you read the occult, invocations to Odin actually span the entire Christian history

>>128187674
this.

>>128184333
>get exiled
Hahaha, you and what army? No Christian would follow that, since "All are Equal in Christ" you fucking moron.

>>128187070
That's not what I'm talking about. The pic in question implies that Asma Al-Assad (1/2 European), Abdullah II (3/4 European), and Rania (1/2 European) are indicative of the Levantine population during the time of Christ which is untrue as they have European parents.

>>128187586
>Also Mark 12:17. Then Jesus said to them, "Give back to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's." And they were amazed at him.
>So give to the Brits what is British, to the Japs what is Japanese and the Germans what is German, right?
That's a very bizarre extrapolation to make considering Jesus was talking about their literal occupiers.

>>128181797
>Imperial era legionnaires using spears

Whoever drew that should be thrown into the Tiber

>>128187944
>slaves obey your masters
>Women obey your husbands for Christ is the head of the Church

Didn't knwo you went to a marcionite Feminists bible club.

>>128187993
WE WUZ ARABS N SHEEIT

>>128187963
I sure hope you are aware that Pagans had no connection with each other and would most likely just kick the shit out of each other.
The united european identity came with Chrisendom.

>>128187963
>implying a europe with so many wildly different shittribes would do anything other than murdering and raping each other.

>>128180248
Does NOT explain how shitty the dark ages were compared to the Pagan golden age of Rome. And you can pretend that "core Christianity" is based but that doesn't matter at all. Most Christians do not follow what you call the core of Christian ethics.

>>128187586
funnily enough I could say the same about you, taking a quote and distorting it so hard as to fit your agenda

guess all fucking christians have it wrong since I can't recall a single confession which is explicitly founded on tribalism sentiments

>The stranger who resides with you shall be to you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt; I am the LORD your God

>>128187791
>PLato and his cult followers who was a monotheist
Having literally no idea what you were talking about

1 Plato was most dominant force in paganism but continued path of presocratics
2 was so clearly not a monotheist. Yes he believed we were all part of the one but that's monism not monotheism as the one did nothing but exist

>>128188164
>implying anyone follows that type of Christianity
>implying the few that do would ever achieve power over the dominant Christian churches
>implying any Christians would recognize nonwhites as slaves
The whole Jewish religion must be exiled from Europe. There is no pick-and-choose when it comes to an invader faith.

>>128187628
Christ used these hyperbolic teachings. Do not judge or you shall be judged in turn is another one, or the on about praying in secret. Something about, if you pray in public then you should not pray at all. This is hyperbole. You can defend yourself but don't be petty and fight someone over nothing, turn the other cheek to show everyone who the child really is. Again still a hyperbolic. Rather than judge someone, first look to yourself, however the scumbag priests who have used their position of power to hurt little boys and hijack our faith will burn eternally. Finally, you can pray in public with the rest of the congregation, but don't publicise intentionally and make the point of your prayer to garner attention and praise.

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>>128188171
>Golden age of Roma
>didn'tmention CRASSUS
jeez where were you in 60 BC

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>>128185745
Well my reply was hardly antagonistic to your claim. However everything you believe hinges on this blood religion concept which seems utterly baseless

>Christianity is christianity, for a Finn or for a congolese nigger.
The Church is both universal and particular. the particular elements manifest through cultures which leads to a multitude of styles and attitudes. Syro-Malabar Catholics behave differently from Spanish Catholics, each has their own liturgical rites, saints, and so on; as a pagan, if anything you should appreciate that at least

>>128187674
You are the problem! Christianity is the problem, paganism is the key to a forgotten Europe.

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>>128188451
>>128188451
Of course we would it's been done for almost 2000 years? Times don't change in the spirit of the father

>>128187347
And Christianity got fused with pagan European traditions. Checkmate

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>>128188466
This guy gets it, I think.

>>128187628

>Turn the other Cheek does not mean "bow your head when the Blade flies towards it."

this is true yet we are not invaded militarily but by steady flow of unarmed people who claim to be refugees. What good christian would turn away those people?

Again, i agree with the rest you said. The above mentioned issue needs to be adressed though Are there any church officials today who oppose the current asylum-politics of the EU /Germany?

>>128188449
He had a monothesit phase are you kidding me??

>>128187768
You realize anatolia used to be greek, right?

Islam didn't develop in the balkans. It was forced into the balkans 1000 years after it came into existence.

>>128188171
They never fought becuse for religous reasons, only for money and etc.

>>128188764
not in blood, that's the point
it was a massive plebeian conversion of an ending Empire

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None of you are even qualified to talk about paganism, familia

>>128188339
Ive given scriptural evidence that Jesus believed that you give the property to the owner, you don't have to twist that much. However you haven't given any on why Christians fundamentally have to cuck for other races. Also isn't that quite directed specifically at the Israelites. And I don't get your second point. Why would someone go to confession and talk to the priest about how cool aryans are?

>>128188589
Sorry mate, I was alive in 300 BC.
Balling in Ptolemaic Egylt n Shit.

On a serious note, Rome, whilst having heavily influenced European Culture and History only gathered its Impact because of its position that was granted through Christianity. It was because of the Franks and other Germanic tribes being converted, that Rome was granted the importance it had.

little bit of a grammer mistake ooops!

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>>128189105
>Egypt

OPINION FUCKING DISCARDED

>>128188815
But we've already established that the church is chucked af. Compare the modern church to the earlier one which killed Muslims rather than welcoming them.

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>>128189027

I agree the muslims get to speak first on behalf of MoonMan

>>128187628
>Turn the other Cheek does not mean "bow your head when the Blade flies towards it."

This is true, and the perpetuation of this as the meaning of that line speaks a lot about how warped Christian messages have become over time. When you let dumbfucks like Martin Luther try and explain it completely out of context because of MUH BIBLE IS THE MAIN AUTHORITY retardation, that's where you get this relativistic bullshit that strips Christianity of all meaning. Jews have especially learned to manipulate Christianity to their benefit, and it's easier to do when you have no central authority in branches like protestantism.

>>128187024
Europeans need union with divinity, illumination of the soul, devinly delineated moral codes, redemption, and the ability to merge with the infinite upon death. Christianity offers this. If being a pagan gives you this than by all means take it. It doesn't do it for me though.

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>>128189027
This desu
Lithuanians, Lativians, Scandinavians, and Some Siberians practiced it was later than the rest of Europe. I've heard it lingered on alongside Christianity too.

>>128188880
What? It wasn't a phase. Its the difference between ontology and deity. Do you know what monism is? As in all is matter or all is mind are 2 different monisms. Plato=all is mind and the gods are part of that cosmology. Neoplatonists debated whether there was a primary (plotinus) or whether they all partook of it equally (proclus) both are polytheist

>>128189027
Are the Baltic gods well recorded? Not trying to start shit just wondering. I'm Celtic and years ago I was looking into Celtic polytheism and found it wasn't very well recorded. The Norse seemed to do that well, sort of wondering about you guys since the Balts are obviously much more similar to the Nords than us celts.

>>128189086
>Ive given scriptural evidence that Jesus believed that you give the property to the owner,
you are the one twisting it as a sort of nationalistic motto

>However you haven't given any on why Christians fundamentally have to cuck for other races
the quote is a good start, but even if it didn't, my point is that spirituality should serve folk and soil
your religion is as far as it gets from that, it's a religion based on universalist principles
unlike its sister religion of judaism, it had its tribalistic links explicitely removed

no wonder ancient jews hated it so much, it was degenerate even for them

>Why would someone go to confession and talk to the priest about how cool aryans are
sad strawman

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>>128188925
Christianity originated in the Roman empire and it made the empire great again

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>>128189498
How do you feel about pedofilia Plato

>>128181091
Swiss anon is correct. It was more akin to tribalism than nationalism.

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>>128189400
Europeans need a spirituality based on blood and soil if they want to survive.

You can get illumination of the soul, devinly delineated moral codes, redemption, and the ability to merge with the infinite upon death along with your african and sudamerican brothers and sisters, I don't give a shit about what you new world trash do with your land, I'd just like for Europe to be sacred land for Europeans and not yet another continent infested with an anonymous abrahamitic cult.

>>128187963
>Europe is divided between three major branches of the same religion

>So let's implode into dozens of unrelated, extinct religions

I hope that image was made to be satirical.

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>>128189569
>and it made the empire great again
thanks for the great laugh pal

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>>128188815
>Refugees
>Implying Christianity tells me to house people who rape and murder my kin.

Those who lie and decieve to further unjust goals shall be revealed and punished.

>Church officials
Modern day Catholic Church has nothing to do with Christianity. The Protestant or Evangelic Church even less. We have a pope who sees his Priests murdered and who kisses the feet of those who have nothing but hate for us.
Those who speak out are usually swiftly silenced, in the sense of public shaming or removal from office. Unless the Pope hits the Curb any time soon, Catholic Chrisendom will drift further from what its supposed to be.

Might sound a tad edgy but currently, Id say an Orthodox Church is more the way to go.

>>128189524
In the time of the bible the nation was thought of as a race. It's been like that for years as mass immigration is only a recent thing for most people outside of Jews. So I don't really see it as twisting it. Sorry if you see it differently but I see it being just as relevant as your point about Egypt, we could both be seen as twisting it, just our biases getting in the way obviously. Also about the last thing, I was genuinely confused about what you meant.

>>128175187

celts thought this fucking """""pig""""" was a god

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>>128189569
The LARPagans act like Christianity destroyed the Roman Empire, and yet in reality, the Roman Empire lasted for ~1200 years after it formally adopted Christianity.

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>>128189945

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Whether Christianity was good for Europe or not, I'm not going to worship a nonwhite god.

>>128189949
People seem to think that the Roman Empire was just the western half.

>>128189813
Almost all of the European religon are the same. The gods just have other names.

>>128188815
There are times in life when you need to turn the other cheek. It means if someone for instance perhaps says something slightly offensive to you in front of a crowd sometimes instead of beating them to death because of ego, just let it go. That is a useful concept.

>>128175187
What's with the sudden influx of LARPers?

>>128189869
I like the Orthodox Church a lot more but there are fuck all near me. I've been thinking of attending a Latin mass since it's usually more traditional. Maybe it's just unlikely to happen but I'd like to try an uncuck the church at least.

>>128189294

Would the christians back then have fought and killed unarmed civilians? How would they justify that theologically?

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>>128189949
>the Roman Empire
PFAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

funnily enough, it was LE BASED CRUSADERS that dealt the most fatal blow to Byzantium

>>128189399
Checked and fully agreed, my friend.
The whole Kike-on-a-stick bullshit that gets pushed around here is utter nonsense anyways.
Christianity never had love for the jews, in fact it was even displayed that they killed the Prophet, Jesus Christ, for pointing out and punishing their morally wrong behaviors.
And while the Catholic Church was rotten to the Core around the Time of Luther, Protestantism was still a fucking mistake.

>>128175187
Hammer of Thor, my roots lies in the north and the east, Väinämöinen, Ilmarinen and shamanism.

I think since Im Irish i feel more in touch with my Gael ancestors from Ulster, including 'The Ulster Cycle' than some sandniggers Religion from the middle of a desert.

>>128190255
And le based germanic pagans are the ones who destroyed the western roman empire. What's your point?

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>>128190255
YOU COULD DO BETTER

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>>128189185
Nigga You just jelly cuz you aint getting to bang your sister untill your Offspring looks like Mashed potatoes :^)

>>128187963
> Romans and Celtics "together"

>>128190379
>And le based germanic pagans are the ones who destroyed the western roman empire
most of the late Germanics were already christians
the goths who sacked Rome in 410AD were christians already
Rome was already collapsing, christianity or not, but the desert cult certainly didn't help

>>128189993
Coolio senpai. I don't really care what religion you follow, as long as it's Christian or Pagan, at least in the rough situation we have now. More important to band together. I think if we are going to argue it should be more,like the end of this thread rather than the name calling which mostly occupied the start of the thread.

>>128190133
The creator god is not human. He is nonlocal.

>>128190133
STOPP Å TA FEIL SÅ MYE!!!

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>>128190499
CAESAR WENT FOR THE FEET BECAUSE THEY WERE CLEAN THE SPAWN CAME FROMTHE TURKEYBASTER. CLEOPATRA = DIRTY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylxTvLUnSWk
Christianity honestly doesnt belong in my country? I dont understand it at all. Im not a Pagan either but I respect Celtic Polytheism far more especially the Ulster Cycle

>>128190562
>desert cult certainly didn't help

It helped the eastern part of the Roman empire

>>128176558
>brother in law has brown hair brown eyes
>because of his exposure to /pol/ type sites believes he's an iberian
>does 23andme
>finds out he's predominantly Scandinavian

Blue eyes is a meme it's facial structure that matters