Thoughts on Alice Weidel for the AfD? In interviews she comes

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>>128167582
Then how about you include those interviews next time

I'd pay good money to see her culturally enriched

>>128168057
Can't find any with Arabic subtitles for you.

she's a lesbian neoliberal kike

afd is a fucking joke

>>128168158
Yeah, you Americans sure like your interracial cuckold porn. Unfortunate consequence of not having any culture.

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>>128167582
The propaganda here is way stronger than in your country, it's literally the bbc on steroids.

So if you are thinking that it's bad in great britain, you haven't been introduced to German (((public broadcasting))) yet.

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Wow just looked up that party, 100% Jews

>>128168356
Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Höcke only appealed to Ossi untermensch

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And who's this Höcke, he's a Jew as well, wtf lol. Probably Mark Zuckerberg's cousin

>>128168527
Yes, but Weidel is intelligent and can attract thinking urbanites. I know plenty of university educated professionals who want a far-right candidate they can relate to, i.e. one that doesn't come across as a populist snake oil salesman

>>128169099
It does not matter, the government media complex won't report so ergo sum arum they do not exist. It's that simple.

Keep in mind, that dissidents are being prosecuted for opposing the government here. There old generation does not speak English, and can not use any alternative media. It's different with the young generation, however due to demographic change, they are in the absolute minority.

>>128170133
Do you have any numbers on the ethnic demographic of the younger generations? Can't seem to find any good data from Germany.

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>>128167582
Why the fuck does europe have so many female politicians? and the male ones like macron are embarrassing.

You need a masculine man to preach a masculine message of self determination and national preservation.

>>128167582
all of them are kikes, that's why you shill on /pol/ for them

>>128170810
Disagree. See: Margaret Thatcher

>>128171051
Good one. You sound like you went to the Realschule

>>128171106
She seems like an outlier. For every thatcher in history how many merkels have there been before the next thatcher appears?

>>128170502
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demografie_Deutschlands#/media/File:Bevpyr_2050.png

>>128171180
you sound like a high IQ jew

>>128171396
I would generally agree, but bold, new ideas often need to come packaged in a less threatening way. In Germany, practically any male who raises his voice in a political setting is branded a Nazi.

>>128171459
Yeah, that looks like a recipe for a collapsing social welfare system

>>128171932
Yea thats something that is hard for me to understand as an American. Really sad to be honest.

>>128172253
Filthy kike, you have been found out

>>128167582
Evil, sneaky cunt. Do not trust.

>>128172407
But, desu, I've spent a fair about of time in the States, and I don't see a very healthy conservative movement outside of the South. Lots of white families on welfare and few take pride in their lives/culture/heritage. Trump obviously represents a big win, but I think it's worth keeping in mind that a decent democrat would have most likely won.

>>128172896
I don't trust any politicians, but I want 'new right' politicians that have her technocratic aesthetic and intellectual ability. It's time to ditch the Völkisch look imo.

>>128168527

Yeah but do average Germans hold the same disdain for public broadcasters that we do on these islands?

BBC or RTE in Ireland are viewed by the majority as meme tier. With only 17% of people trusting them as their main source of information.

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>>128168799

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>>128171106

She also participated in voting the nobel prices etc
she saw how people that she worked with there getting blocked out by the meida for holding polticially incorrect views
But I can't get over her weird lesbian things

>>128173608
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=frFWiYU6a28

Listen to what she says at 11:00 about 'cash' being Freiheit. This is very good stuff imo

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>>128173525
Yes, goy. Get rid of the Völkisch! It's time for all out neo-liberalism! Did I say I also hate the welfare state? Damn, if you just got rid of it, all your problems would magically disappear! Listen to based (((Ayn Rand and Friedman)))!

>>128173925
I know her. And I hate her, thanks. She initiated the party intern coup trying to throw Höcke out of the party. Making her the leader next to Gauland was a disastrous dicision. An open lesbian, living in Switzerland with an adopted child should NEVER lead a truly right party. She is even more selfish and crude than Petry herself. These people will destroy the party from within. Same for Storch. No sense of loyalty, honor, courage.

>>128174174
The party was dying because of Höcke and Petry. They were totally incompetent. Her private life is what it is, but the fact is the AfD badly needs more converts

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>>128170810
>implying

>>128167582
worst controlled opposition ever women don't belong in politics

>>128173925
And besides, Monsieur Goldstein, it is VERY telling that it was and is ALWAYS the so called "moderate" libetarians in a (far)-right party that attack other party members and sow dissent, who want to purge it. And NEVER the so called evil völkisch, far-right people like Höcke.

Weidel was, along with Petry, my favourit in AfD over a year ago. Until I saw their character again and again. Either way: a woman should never be in a leadership position. Especially in politics. The only person who would be a moderate improvement to AfD leadership is Meuthen, but he doesn't want to for whatever reason.

>>128174748
WRONG. Höcke is one of the few politicians who actually attract voters, no matter how much you so called moderates love to shit on völkisch politicians like him. He was successfull in Thuringia, not to mention his street actions. The cucked campaign in NRW utterly failed with 5.x% Nobody needs a second FDP. The libertarian wing is an important addition, but not the core. Always was, always will be.

As for Höcke's so called "holocaust memorial" scandal: even the far left German media would have left it totally uncovered and forgotten if his OWN party hadn't dug it up again, to attack him. Namely Weidel and Petry and von Storch. All who have had their moments of "stupid and dirty" aswell.

>>128173235
It is healthier than anyone can observe because of the silent majority and the social taboo of any 'conservative' opinions in public. Ive lived both in the south and in New England and believe it or not the republicans in the north are rabidly nationalistic in comparison to southerners.

Trump was the most far right candidate of the 16 contenders for the republican primary and he won. That says that the conservative movement is strong. Yes he had an easy opponent but if someone with a 120+iq would have ran on his platform instead of him, that person wouldve beat any democrat.

>>128174960
Look, the fact is the AfD needs new voters. Weidel can give you that. Abandoning the AfD because of petty concerns over 'purity' and true intent is absurd. Every politician is to some extent immoral and conniving, but some of this behaviour needs to be accepted to win. Do you think Donald Trump actually believes everything he says? Fact is, it's mostly irrelevant. Germany needs a new political order, but that's going to involve compromises with the old.

>this thread
samefaggin jew

>>128174748
>implying europe can be saved by ticking a box on a slip of paper

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>>128168057
I like her, she has my eyes.

>>128176202
Can't unsee

>>128175487
Yeah, I generally agree. But its also true that too many Americans are on the 'system' in one way or another and entitlement reform is going to be necessary. Furthermore, the popular culture is a cesspool and I don't see that changing overnight

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at least the AFD is the enemy of the government.
as long as the government is busy with fighting them, they are not fighting us in that moment, that is enough to give them my vote even if they would be corrupt criminals too.

>>128175659
Who is abandoning the AfD? And no, as I said, Weidel will not get us new voters, FDP completely covers that, including a Hoppe wing, but did and will create dissent and constant internal power games inside the party. She has no character. Sneaky, high IQ, lesbian materialist who couldn't care less about the Volk as a former goldman international capitalist. I know these folks from the Frankfurt "wall street" - no connection to the nation or people. Uprooted, cosmopolitan materialists.

Either way: there must not be a compromise with the traitors of the current regime in Germany. Many of these people do deserve a tribunal and nothing else. They must be crushed, like the greens got and will be crushed.

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>>128176534
What?

She's a lesbian, therefore a disgrace for the human race.

>>128176774
I guess our disagreement is that I see a third way forward. International capitalism can be blended with national identity. It's final form does not have to be a one world government or even the EU in its final form.

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>germans voting for anyone but Merkel

Germany is doomed, my friend. We should not dwell on it any longer and just let the country die the sad, painful death it craves so much.

>>128176774
Also, what does caring about the Volk actually mean once immigration is brought back under control?

>>128177168
I didn't deny that, but those rejecting it are people like Weidel and not Höcke. Weidel, von Storch, Petry want to purge the völkisch wing. The völkisch wing, or patriotic platform NEVER tried to purge the libertarian capitalists. NOT ONCE.

Höcke is clumsy, awkward, not exactly a genius, but he has loyalty and loves the German people. The same can probably by said of Meuthen and he is less of an autist, but for some reason he does not want to lead.

This libertarian committed suicide, because of the direction this country is headed and one reason was the treatment of Höcke https://susannekablitz.wordpress.com/2017/02/10/dieses-land-ist-unrettbar-verloren/

Think about that, before you consider purging people like him.

>>128176593
I don't see entitlement reform necessary. We are the world reserve currency and the federal reserve will loan as much to our government as needed. That doesn't mean its morally right though.

Yes pop culture is bad but fortunate for us we have access to hundreds of years of culture online. Whether that be art, music, literature or film. Anyone can live their lives without encountering pop culture if they choose to.

>>128178264
Höcke might have Germans' best interests at heart, but if he becomes a liability to the party by making dumb comments, then he needs to be purged. This isn't a chess club, the goal is political power.

>>128178147
Birthrates, family values, protection of marriage, defense against policies that are detrimental to the majority of citizens, but only benefit a few billionairs. Maintaining a German majority in German, French majority in France. I'd like to see a unification with Austria and deep networking with the German diaspora globally, but that's just a dream today. And absolutely rejecting "positivist", if you want to call them that, ideas of Merkel like "the Volk is ANYONE who lives in this country". Strong checks on who can vote, too. Ideally no welfare for immigrants, exceptions maybe if they have paid taxes for ten working years. No anchor babies, which the fucking Greens want. Stuff like that.

>>128177349
Well this, too desu. With 90% probability I will leave Germany within the next 5 years. I really had enough of this shithole.

>>128179166
Yeah, totally agree with all of this. Maybe I'm being overly optimistic, but I like Germany's chances of turning this around. We will see. Still plenty of good Germans.

>>128177349
>Germany is doomed, my friend.
It's doomed since it exists. But everything they throw at it makes its economy only stronger.

>>128179104
ALL of them made dumb, REALLY dumb comments. That includes literally all of the politicians that wanted to purge Höcke.

"No Twitter for politicians who didn't get coached on using it" would be my party policy. Nevertheless a lot of it is calculation: you need to break PC and move the cordonne sanitaire to where you want to be and not your enemy.

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>>128170810
>implying

>>128167582
Isn't she a lesbian?

>>128180038
There has never been a "turning around" in Germany which hasn't gone through total destruction. That's the way it works sadly.
However rising from the ashes is what Germans are incredible at.

Her chance of winning an election is less that of Gary Johnson winning a general election. Merkel needs to win. Unless Merkel wins, Communism will rule the EU.

>>128176774
Jörg Haider practically killed in 86 the fpö liberterian wing. He couped the libertarian leader and managed to get election records. And he said way "worse" things than Höcke.

Kicking out libertarians of a right wing party can actually work.

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>>128167582
Bjorn Höcke is the most based politician in this country.

>>128180038
At the moment I have absolutely zero hope for this country. Too much violence enacted and tolerated by the government, too much moral decline, too much authoritarian socialism, too many years of outright nihilism before, too much islamization and terrorism and economic decline on top of it, not to speak of the abyssmal situation German culture is in. It disgusts me to think what these people have mad of the country of Goethe, Beethoven and Schopenhauer. Some people have hope, I did a year ago, now I don't. None left.

>>128168799
>neoliberal kike
>good
How about we do let the shit be the enemy of the good

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>>128181316
We've never been replaced in our own country though. Millions were killed and a lot of buildings destroyed, but there's literally no going back from getting replaced. And the muslims and Erdogan know this of course. What's worse: so do our politicians. And they WANT this fate for us! So they can have their precious Jewnited States of Europe. This is the worst totalitarian ideology in history and from this destruction there's no coming back for Europe, if nobody stops them. And it's looking like it.

Ideologies can be falsified, empires crumble, even religions can be changed or destroyed in thousands of years, but if the people are replaced: game over. Forever.

>>128183130

you fucking retard

>>128168348
Buuuurn!!!!!!!! Hahaha

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>>128167582
>IMO a big improvement over Petry

>talking shit about mah /pol/fu

>>128182994
Well, okay, but it's not what I would want desu. I think they are a good addition to a nationalist party, their anti-socialist stance fits perfectly. And FPÖ became much more successful after Haider, I think.

The biggest problem we have isn't even this constant in-fighting, but the lack of time...AfD is coming 25 years too late. And so much damage is already done.

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>>128183731
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>>128184276
Obviously you know nothing about Petry. She is basically a sex slave of Pretzell. Hell knows why a slimey snake oil salesman like him can hypnotize a relatively good looking chemist like her. - But just another proof that women are not to be trusted with leadership.

I have very limited understanding of German politics, or European politics in general, but are German right wingers too scared to back someone who isn't Merkel, because they are scared of the Socialist candidate winning?

>>128183671
Of course, the current situation always looks worse than history, because in the present you can't have knowledge of how it's going to play out.
After both world wars everyone was convinced that removing soil from the country was the way to go to put Germans at a economical disadvantage. It turned out the opposite being true.
We can already see how "immigration" turns out for Sweden and for every other country. But Germany is different, always was. Exception of the rule. This makes the outcome extremely hard to predict.

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>>128183186
Germany will be an interesting place in a generation by current trends. Very vibeant.

>>128184755
The heigt of success was in the general election in 1999. only hofer got more points.

Lack of time is a real problem. Sometimes I think that only a happening like ISIS taking over a city can shift the political climate completly in europe.

>>128168490
That's a Jew

Remember that when you're talking to an American there's now a 70% chance you're talking to a non white.

>>128185033
>>and all you other retarded posts

AfD is really just a bunch of idiots now. Unable to assess the situation, no outlook, no strategy and no future. Fuck off.