Do tell me pol

>>128158319
Who gets the better houses? Who gets water first?

>>128158554
To each according to their need.
Pretty easy thing for intellectuals to understand

>>128158319
>btw we're going to tax 98% of your income to achieve this
Augusto
Bring the helicopter

>>128159263
Then people that actually pay for it would get resentful. It's a pipe dream.

>>128158319
Come live in Venezuela if you like communism so much, you red rat.

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>>128158319

How many times are you going to post this thread, retard?

>disabled people deserve to exist
Lol

>>128159263
Who decides who's needs?

>>128159263
Are bread lines intellectual or very intellectual?

>>128160364
Intellectuals, aka the smartest people in the society.
Pretty simple you un-nuanced retard

>>128160384
Better than poor people starving on the street like you want

>>128160470
And how are they better places to decide someone else's needs than that person?

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Nothing. Capitalism is the bluepill. On the surface you have these idealistic values like individualism, being a hard worker, being an innovator... but under the surface...

Well, you need to take the redpill to find out. The real RED pill.

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>>128159263
>To each according to their need.
How do you determine needs without a free market?
>Pretty easy thing for intellectuals to understand
Go on then smart arse

>>128160563
Because they are smarter and can more accurately interpret data to decide who needs what.
Once again pretty simple stuff really.

>>128158319
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>>128160470
I have a 158 IQ and I've decided I NEED you, and everyone on my list, to die. And I NEED a billion dollars.

Make it so.

Gulags were the only good thing to come out of communism

>>128158319
Show me a working example of communism.

>>128159263
You don't NEED the computer you're currently using to post this, do you? Yet you're using it.

Hypocrite.

>>128160787
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_theory_of_value

>>128160563
Something something not real communism

>>128160470
Who determines who the smartest people are? Are you the smartest? Are Billy Nye and Neil deGrasse Tyson the smartest?

>>128158319

Please gas yourself commie or pick up a fucking history book.
From the Paris Commune, to War Communism to the USSR and all of their puppet states, communism has been a cancer upon humanity.

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>>128158319
sage

>>128159263
How will you manage the 99% of people who aren't intellectuals?

What if they don't want to share?

>>128158319
It provides an inferior exploration of the probability space of ideas, defaults all too readily to anarchy and then despotism and doesn't account for the fact that are jobs no-one wants to do that nether the less need to be done

>>128160814
You mean like kings? Is that not oligarchy?

>>128158319
>Pay for it
>Pay for it
>No

>>128160751
>Socialism works until it fail
Das it mane

>>128158319
> all those things are done at gunpoint

This is why teenagers are always liberal and adults are always conservative . Cause you don't know shit

>>128160863
I guarantee you haven't been to university, so you are totally ignorant to how smart and more competent professors are than the general public

>>128158319

There's no moral or economic justification for these view except that it "feels" right.

>>128158319
It directly killed 40 million people last century.

>>128160964
I can do that too
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticisms_of_the_labour_theory_of_value

>>128158319
>free houses for homeless people
then why would i buy a home

>>128160814
So those people get to choose how citizens live their lives or just what they have access to? Also if it's pretty simple could you expand on it rather than just say smart people will do it.

>>128160814
So once I'm provided food, water and shelter for free. Why should I work?

>>128161007
Says the ignorant reactionary who hasn't studied history and political science in a academic atmosphere

>>128158319
The fact that you'll use guns and cages to force people to abide by your system of paying for others. See: Stalin, Mao, the Kims.

>>128161218

>just 40 million
I think that's the wrong number for just the USSR, let alone China and everything else.

>>128161039
>How will you manage the 99% of people who aren't intellectuals?
Pol-pol

Why is /pol/ some easily baited. A stop giving retards you's and bumping shit threads. I fucking hate all you retards

Sage

>>128160818
Excuse me, we're talking politics here.
You can take your b grade celebrity circlejerk to /b/, /bant/, /trash/ or /s4s/.
Thank you.

>>128161038
Sage a thread about politics on the political board because you are being enlightened.
Kek how ignorant can you be?

>>128161402
Sounds kinda like having to pay taxes here too

>>128158319
it doesn't work. everyone is poor. dissenters are shot.

>>128158319
>Disabled people deserve to exist
>Communists literally murder disabled people because they can't work

Clearly an expert I see.

>>128161374

My history teacher wrote more books then you will ever actually bother to read, but that's besides the point cause even he agreed with me that all one requires to study history is the ability to read and the willingness to do so.

>>128158319
>implying thats where it starts and ends
>implying magic money tree

>>128161278
>why do anything
Communism will provide!!

>>128161374
>Says the ignorant reactionary who hasn't studied history and political science in a academic atmosphere
>the pseudo intellectual faggot said to the country that violently overthrew their communist overlords in the 90s.

>>128161170
I've been to university and have decided that you and your children need raped and tortured to death.

>>128161511
It's a difference of degree, like how hitting is bad as killing but one's worse. Ancap is the only moral system.

>>128158319
faggot commie

Sage

>>128161682
I agree

>>128161374

Your studies are nothing more than propaganda and indoctrination. The academic atmosphere you studied in is an illusion. You are a pseudointellectual.

>>128160549
Yeah they're a hallmark sign of a bustling society, upwardly mobile.

It is 100% incompatible with human nature and those who believe in it are completely divorced from reality, and most often mentally ill.

>>128158319
150 million people dead in less than 100 years.
It leads to the destruction of the caucasian race by its dogmatically globalist nature, thus halting technological progress for long time to come, possibly forever.
It cant achieve its goals but it will fuck our world up in attempting to do so.

Sage.

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>>128161491

This dude is 100% baiting.

>>128161170
>so you are totally ignorant to how smart and more competent professors are than the general public
What's your education background faggot. I have a MASc, BASc, and AASc in law, public affairs, and public policies. All of my education has only showed that professors can either be competent or complete retards. None of them exibit what ever fantasy bullshit boner you have for them.

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>>128158319

> what's wrong with communism

Well, you would know if you weren't 12 years old and clearly remembered how fucked the peons in the USSR were before it fell due to communism.

It's amazing how so many of these libtard kiddies who claimed they're so educated, have absolutely no clue what the fuck they're talking about.

>disabled people deserve to exist
>mothers should be able to abort children that will end up disabled

really activates your almonds

>>128161614
Not an argument
Tell me why the smartest people in the world with the nicest computer in the world won't be more efficient than a bunch of hicks using the "free market"

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>>128160470
But the Communists murdered intellectuals. Is this whole thread a meme? Are you genuinely retarded or what? Why do you think Russia hasn't been relevant since before the (((Revolution)))? I'll give you a clue, it involves killing off people who aren't retarded and having them replaced with no one of any intellect.
This has to be b8.

>>128158319
Slide threads about bullshit communist ideas that just made not just the poor suffer but everyone else too.

Are the mods even awake?

>>128161669
Why are you so triggered by the truth?

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>>128158319
>>128158319

average communist.

pic related

>keep spare tire under car
>not being used
>can i have it

>>128161856
As if anyone held any doubt senpai

>>128161856
Its still fun to fuck with him

>>128158319
>everyone should have clean water and food
and thats why you shouldnt choose communism
>why not use all the empty homes to house folks without shelter
why would anyone ever buy a home then?
>disabled people deseve to exist
lel @ this strawman that disabled people face hatred, of all the bigoted shit you read on /pol/ no one takes a break from ranting about niggers to say oh and fuck people in wheelchairs too

>>128161752
Says the pseudointellectual who hasn't studied political theories

>>128161924

>Tell me why the smartest people in the world with the nicest computer in the world won't be more efficient than a bunch of hicks using the "free market"
Because as seen with the Soviet Union all the smart people left, got shot or were put in prison camp leading to a nation with some of the smartest and brightest engineers and scientists at the time having a backwards army for nearly the entirety of WW2, and that's just the technological front.

>>128158319
Give me your clothes.

>>128161856
no shit sherlock

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>Disabled people deserve to exist

So if there were currently no disabled people then we would be forced to drink alcohol during pregnancy, mutilate our children and import sperm from disabled people to artificially impregnate women since there HAVE to be disabled people because they DESERVE to exist? Thanks communism.

>>128161170
Is that a joke? Now you're moving from "intelligent" to "educated?" Jordan Peterson is a professor, how come he's an outspoken critic of communism?

These brainiacs that you want to give absolute power to, what guarantee is there that they are immune from abusing that power and, say, genociding tens of millions of people? They're too smart to do that?

My mate was offered a position as a professor of 3D computer graphics at a university. I've known him 15+ years and I can tell you, he's a nice guy but you wouldn't put him at the head of a totalitarian regime.

>>128158319
>disabled people deserve to exist
This is absolutely not a communist trait, It's a liberal trait, which stands opposed to communism.

Communist systems sometimes initially start out with this belief, but due to the concept of scarcity and forced equality, those that can not work become dead weight which becomes too much to deal with, leading to their execution or imprisonment in labour camps.

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>>128159263
>blindly repeating the words of a 200 year old german jew makes me intellectual
A parrot is not of human intelligence because it can parrot human language.

>>128161970
>second most advanced country in the world with the biggest nuclear arsenal
>not relevant
Pick one

>>128158319
Should =/= will

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>>128158319
I prefer ideologies that work, so I'm gonna pass on communism.

>>128162047
no, the comrades at the committee of spare tires, which are enlightened people with great mechanic skills, and not the ones who have sucked more commie dick, have decided there's another fella with a greater need for a spare tire

>well, yes, that fella happens to be a member of the committee, but that's just a coincidence

>>128162192
>first country into space
>technologically backward
Pick one

>>128158319
What incentive is there to get work when all your needs are met.

Almost all human impetus can be boiled down to resource acquisition and propagation . Communism is in direct conflict with biological programming which is why it will never work.

>>128162159
>ableist oppression
Capitalist America literally led the world in accommodating the disabled in all areas of public life. Try going to China, see how many Down's syndrome or wheelchair people there are in public (none they literally leave them in the forest for the wolves)

>>128160470

Fortunately, those are the first people who get killed off under communism.

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>>128162691

>first country into space
The first man made object sent into spess was the projectiles fired from the Paris Gun during WW1.
Not to mention sending a dog into spess won't change the fact that the Soviet Union had giant technological problems where it mattered for most of it's history, and all it's achievements happened despite communism not because of it.

>>128158319
There's nothing wrong with any of those ideas, at least not intrinsically. A problem only arises when we steal from people and distribute that wealth to others.

>>128158319
>What's wrong with communism again?
(1) It doesn't exist
(2) Kids like to say they're commies to scare their parents
(3) It doesn't exist.

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>>128160751
>all collapsed shitholes

Makes you think. Only leftists can be this dumb as fuck.

>>128161970
>But the Communists murdered intellectuals
No, Stalin targeted the left-wing liberals and Trotskyites who were primarily educated Jews to keep them from reforming the Soviet Union.

>>128158319

The tendency for it to descend into chaos and genocide no matter how you seek to install it. That tendency for it to go against basic human nature and eventually fucking it all up.

Yeah, that.

>>128158319
GOD DAMMIT EVERY FUCKING TIME! YOU REDS NEVER FUCKING LISTEN LOOK AT A FUCKING HISTORY BOOK! COMMUNISM DOESNT MAKE EVERYONE RICH IT MAKES EVERYONE POOR!

>>128163835
>The tendency for it to descend into chaos and genocide
Communism is a economic system. It has nothing to do with chaos and genocide.

Hallo which timelinie are wir right now?

>>128160601

The real red pill in communism tends to be dispense by experts. The dimension of the pill is 7.62 m while the capsule itself is 39mm in length. The experts will deliver this pill to the base of the skull via a high speed dispenser designed by comrade M. Kalashnikov.

All subjects receiving the red pill will be enlightened if surviving the administration.

>>128158319
Disabled peaople deserve to exist. Lol tell that to most commie states

>>128164232

Yet it keeps on happening.

>>128164205
>COMMUNISM DOESNT MAKE EVERYONE RICH IT MAKES EVERYONE POOR!
You have no clue what communism is, do you?

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>>128160470
>tfw to un-nuanced

>>128158319
>disabled people deserve to exist
dropped

>>128164468
>Yet it keeps on happening.
Communism is stateless. Tell us where that is happening.

>>128158319
Everyone in this nation deserves clean water
Homeless of our people should be sheltered
We should care for our disabled

>>128158319
>Your mother died and left her house to you?
>Cool it's ours now
>We're housing homeless so stop complaining :^)
>btw pay us to support retards. This is not charity, it's mandatory.

>>128162526
>I prefer ideologies that work, so I'm gonna pass on communism.
Unless you're Humpty Dumpty. communism is not an ideology. It is an economic system without any government.

>>128164716
Socialism, the ideology which is supposed to lead to communism, creates collapsed shitholes.

>>128165007
Ancaps should be happy, we will do away with the state, but they're retarded hicks so they won't understand our posts

>>128164716

Wherever it's applied. Don't matter who did it. Don't mater if it's done via "scientific" or populist means, it'll cause death and chaos.

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>>128165238
No, state capitalism does that.

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>>128158319
Kek that's propaganda you dimwit cuck

>>128165238
Are we talking about national socialism or modern jewy socialism?

>>128158554
Kangs get first gibs cuz slabery

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>>128165575
>your stupid shit ideology fails
>I-IT WAS CAPITALISM
Every fucking time.

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I agreed with you up until
>disabled people deserve to exist

>>128158319
Wouldn't oppose any of these if we lived in a homogeneous society

>>128162478
>second most advanced country

The soviet union did not have advanced living standards you dumb fuck. Its living standards were much worse than any Western European country or the US. It's GDP per capita was garbage in comparison. It was third-world.

>>128158319
I take issue with the last one. Does anyone deserve to exist? What is the criteria? Do unborn embryos count? Don't think they thought that one through.

>>128158319
Disabled people should be removed for the good of society.

>>128158319
>What's wrong with communism again?
It simply does not work.

Remember Americans (capitalists) are considering building a wall to keep people OUT.
The DDR (socialist) had to build a wall to keep people IN.

That should tell you everything you need to know.

>>128159263
That's retarded. What does someone "need"? Is food and fresh water "need"?

You're arguing it through ancillary bullshit that isn't even at the core of communism. In any case...
You either a: need the state to first accumulate and centralize all power (what could go wrong)
Or b: just burn everything to the ground and assume the ruina and ashes of everything will just snap into you're fantasy paradise

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>>128165575
like soviet-era clockwork

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>>128165238
Marxist Socialism does that, not National Socialism.

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>>128161170
>you are totally ignorant to how smart and more competent professors are than the general public

Oh really? Maybe we should let Piper Harron be in charge. She's got a doctorate from Princeton in math and was advised by a Fields Medal Scholar....


Oh wait, she's a complete retard who was admitted and pushed though Princeton's program despite being extremely under qualified and admitting several times in her dissertation that she isn't good at math and doesn't even like it. How was this allowed to happen? Oh it was because of stupid communist based policies like affirmative action, where a bunch of intellectuals determined that her "need" for this level of education was higher than more qualified applicants solely on the basis that she's black and female.

Go fuck yourself you obnoxious piece of Marx-loving garbage.

>>128166426
None of us asked to exist. Killing a baby before it's born is still cruelty don't get me wrong, until we invent nanomachines that stop deformities in the fetus and even help to specifically decide the gender of the child by blocking certain chromosomes out, we're just gonna have to kill the deformed and mentally disabled, they are worthless to society.

If I became homeless one of the first things I'd do is find a foreclosed or condemned home/building that's not in a terrifying part of town. It'd be a lot easier to focus on getting your shit together when you have a decent form of shelter.

>>128165238
>Socialism, the ideology ... creates collapsed shitholes.
Socialism is how the poorest monarchy in Eastern Europe was able to become America's only superpower rival in just 50 years. Socialism is how China's hybrid economy has boomed - workers are educated, healthy and housed. Only the rural poor are still desperate.

Socialism removes the rent-seekers and middle men who exploit your labor. The internet is a perfect example. It is a public resource that everyone can use to make their fortune. Musicians sell their music directly to the public, the more goes in their pockets, bypassing the recording industry who historically skimmed 97% off the top.

Political socialism is the public sector. Its the goods and services available to the people. I would think not having public roads, bridges, airports, harbors, police and fire departments, the CDC in Atlanta, etc, would create Somalia-tier shitholes.

Economic socialism is the top tier, where industries are nationalized, the economy is centrally planned and the government micromanages the allocation of goods and resources. A lot of uneducated people confuse the two vastly different kinds of socialism.

Listen, the monied-class and aristocracy are the only ones justifiably terrified of economic socialism which is why they indoctrinate you to hate political socialism. The more workers know about economics, the less terrified they should be.

We like capitalism, well-regulated to avoid its moral hazards. But the resulting wealth concentration is parasitic on the economy and causes the velocity of money to slow.

If you have any clue what I'm talking about, feel free to join this conversation.

>>128165485
>it'll cause death and chaos.
Spotted the 12-year old!

>>128165575
>>128167092

Because it's right at least once a day or all the time if the NKVD sets the time?

>>128167518
>Socialism is how the poorest monarchy in Eastern Europe was able to become America's only superpower rival in just 50 years.
At the cost of only a couple of genocides and about 30 million dead...

WHAT A SUCCESS. Genociding your own people is surely a great way forward...

By the same argument national socialism is completely awesome, you fucking retard.

>>128166251

When Yeltsin lost his damn mind after visiting a local American grocery store, you know something is very wrong.

http://blog.chron.com/thetexican/2014/04/when-boris-yeltsin-went-grocery-shopping-in-clear-lake/

>>128159263
you don't need a lot of stuff in your live

you don't need a big house, you can live in a studio

you don't really need a car

you don't need a microwave

you don't need a $700 iphone,

etc.

a lot of stuff you don't need in life

>>128159263
>according to their own need
>implying that the population doesnt have unlimited needs
>implying that when people fulfill their needs they dont just create a new need because the desire to want things is infinite

>>128161924
You just don't understand the function of prices and the nature of knowledge (knowledge is much more then just intellectual or formalized knowledge). Learn economics. Read Hayek.

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>>128158319

> Everyone should have clean water and food.
The more capitalist a country is, the more plentiful and available food and water seems to be.
> Why not use empty homes to house folks without shelter?
What this implies is seizing property from its private owners and giving it to the government for redistribution. I'm sure I don't have to explain why totalitarianism is a problem. Also, many of the problems with housing shortages arise due to government restrictions, restrictions on which properties you can build as well as where you can build them. Which in turn drive up prices.
>Disabled people deserve to exist
In a free capitalist society they would be allowed to. What do you think will happen in a country where the government controls everything and has to worry about costs? Do you think the government will find it cost effective to abord babies with down syndrome or allow them to exist? Theres a reason Cuba aborts them.

pic related is the blog header.

Communism means that everyone has an equally shitty life except for the ruling party. The ruling party owns the means of production. There is no incentive to improve because all resources are distributed by the party that decides what everyone should have. Citizens cannot choose what they want.

Capitalism means the means of production are owned by whoever can afford to set up means of production. Anyone who has a thing can sell that thing to whoever wants that thing. Citizens can choose what they want to buy or sell. The mechanism of improvement is inherent in the natural competitive desires of mankind.

Choose to choose, comrade.

>>128167504

Ethical squatting?

>>128160787
Housing, food, a phone, a computer, culture, vacations, hobbies. Done.

>>128158319
Disabled people don't "deserve" to exist.

>>128160964
>go to a job
>boss man says he'll give you $10 for you labor
>free market has decided you labor is worth $10
>w-what? But my labor is worth $15, the markets are tailored to my feelings!

>>128158319
Wow. Things that they don't actually achieve and a fraction of what they would be about.

This is ideology not reality.
What party represents and what is the purpose of the machine (artificial society) they are creating?

What is it they are actually achieving?
Technology is the thing making progress not anything they have said/done.

>>128161007
>Paris commune
>bad
People like you killed it

>everyone should have clean water and food
And they should only get it from me If they can pay me for the water that is on my property, and if they can pay for the meat from the cows I raise and slaughter on my property.
>why not use all empty homes to house folks without shelter
If the houses are on my property, and they can pay rent, then I can be involved.
>disabled people deserve to exist
As long as nobody is stealing my resources to pay for them, I don't care.

>>128158319
Can I offer you a free helicopter ride instead?

>>128158319
kill yourself shill rat

>>128160470
Inb4 the Jewish intellectuals use nepotism to push out the goyim intellectuals and bring in their own people

>>128161153
>le people get conservative as they age meme
Peter Kropotkin would debate that. Also, Marx actually got more democratic and more libertarian as he aged.

>>128167857

"But only the right class of people survived!"

Yeah, fuck that.

My family and the extended ones survived the Killing Fields. Fuck the commies. Would love to treat them to the same hospitality they gave us.

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>>128169501
"People" means those without mental illness.

>>128161333
Because without work people get miserable pretty quickly.

>>128158319
read Marx, Engels, once done there go read Bakunin and Proudhon, just so you get the full range of revolutionary leftism.

Then read Rothbard, Mises, Hayek, and stop being a fucking dumbass.

>>128159263
Shut the fuck up your commie traitor. Your ancestors would be ashamed.

>>128161682
>when you start a nuclear war with your dog because he violated the NAP by growling at you when you came too close to his food

>>128169274

Yeah, bad ideas that cannot be implemented without a huge loss of life deserves to die.

>>128158319
Ok. We can try it again, but you have to promise not to kill 100+ million people this time. No starving our farmers to death or destroying our infrastructure by driving out all the engineers and other competent folk. Deal?

>>128169501

>Marx became more enlightened in his old age
>many of those died from his early ideas would love to survive into old age

Hope his ass is burning in Hell for that.

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>>128167257
Oh God Canada, what have I become?

>>128158319
It's a fantastic idea that's incompatible with reality of both the human experience and the flow of society.

Communism has had a hundred chances to work, and every time fails to incompetence and greed. So long as both exist, communism cannot.

>>128167857
>At the cost of only a couple of genocides and about 30 million dead...
You're confusing the political system {{{ mislabeled socialism }}} with the economy. Losing 30 million consumers and laborers is catastrophic to any economy.

>WHAT A SUCCESS. Genociding your own people is surely a great way forward...
Look up the actual number of Russians who died because of war, Spanish Flu, winter and clay-stealing kulaks, around 16 million. Stalin can take credit for almost 18 million, but that was because Stalin was bloodthirsty tyrant, not because of any centrally planned economy like socialism.

>By the same argument national socialism is completely awesome,
If socialism had a means by which we could eliminate all the stupid people, I would rally for it.

>>128158319
>making goals that take working together to achieve
>using system that benefits doing nothing but sitting on your ass

>>128158319
>The road to hell is paved with good intentions.jpg

>>128168939
>What this implies is seizing property from its private owners and giving it to the government for redistribution
This is precisely how WalMart gets the land it needs to build their supercenters. It's escapes me why any true scotsman conservative would abide this theft.

>>128162860
China has been capitalist for 40 years.
>>128165970
Not an argument.
>>128166251
People were very poor but it was much, much better than most of the third world. There was only one famine that was undoubtedly partially caused by state policy, and that was in the 30s. Homelessness was hardly an issue outside of wartime, nobody was starving, and everybody had a job. As modest as things were, there was an expected minimum standard of living. Hardly third world.

>Hey I just want a utopia was that so much to ask for???!!

hahaha. Ever noticed how a couple years ago we used to have Venezuelan posters and now we have next to none? Your radical ideas are why.

>>128158319

It can't even put bread on the grocery store shelf

>>128160751
THE ONLY REASON IT FAILED IS BECAUSE THERE WAS OPPOSITION TO IT. IF EVERYONE AGREED WITH MY SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT IT WOULD WORK

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>>128158319

pic

In a communist paradise, the disabled will go the same way as Boxer did.

>>128167954
Capitalists love to repeat this but always forget to mention how capitalism in the 90s killed millions of Russians as public services collapsed.

>>128169591
>people I don't like are mentally ill
Okay Brezhnev.

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CRASH THE

JEW WORLD ORDER

http://youtu.be/fCcERNCXYq8

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>>128159263
>To each according to their need.

LOL you fucking commies are a goddamn joke

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/708341/jobless-immigrant-family-reject-five-bed-house-too-cramped-luton

>>128170008
The Paris commune didn't kill large numbers. That was the monarchist troops.

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>>128158319
I'm a cheap bastard that don't want to pay for other people shit.

I also don't want to recognize when I use other people shit, cause I want free gibs like anyone else.

>>128170356
Funny how Stalin, Mao, and Hoxha actually raised life expectancies drastically.

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>>128171449
Not everyone I disagree with, just Communists.

>>128160549

If somebody cannot earn enough to feed himself - should starve to death. The same with his family.

>>128170962

Their "expected minimum" was barely enough.

That's like the difference between mostly alive and almost dead.

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>>128169114
>Housing
A mansion? A trailer home? A studio apartment? Which one?
>food
How much? Does it vary according to age? Does it vary according to special cases? How will you determine it without a free market?
>a phone
A $700 iPhone or a cheap flip phone? Do people in certain businesses get a better phone? If so, how do you determine which ones?
>culture
Communism explicitly forbids things like religion.
>vacations
>hobbies
How do you determine who gets how much? Is there anyway to know who works more? If so, how do you quantify type of work and which types of work necessitates more vacation time?

>>128170962
>China has been capitalist for 40 years.
[ √ ] Nationalized industries
[ √ ] Centrally planned economy
[ √ ] Expansive social services (housing, medical, free college, etc.)
[ √ ] Limited private sector competes directly with state companies

Um, it's a hybrid of various capitalisms, but mostly still socialism.

>>128171228

The fault of the Russians to do anything right is not our problem.

They select incompetent buffoons who were leftovers from their days as commie functionaries to privatize their public services.

They chose poorly.

>>128158319
All those things have fuck all to do with communism.

Communism is a strong centralised state that regulates every aspect of your life for the benefit of Jews.

>>128171674

By killing a large number of folks.

Weird.

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>>128158319
95 millions dead for the Zionist

>>128161856

this is some sort of doublebait

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>>128158319
PAY
MY
HEALTHCARE

>>128158319
>sell your house for 300k
>move into an empty one since you now have no shelter
>work for a living to buy food
>but then realize i dont need to work cause i get food and water regardless
sounds fun just gib my shit up

>>128170962
>not an argument
It was socialism. Your shitty ideology failed.

>people were poor but the living standards were minimal
But it was still third world you dumbfuck. All of capitalist Western Europe, America, Canada, Australia, NZ, Japan, SK had far better living standards than the USSR. It was third world objectively speaking. It was just a shinier turd compared to other third world nations.

And you neglect to mention that Russia is now actually better off than it was under any point under the USSR.

https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/shleifer/files/normal_countries_draft_sept_12_annotated.pdf

>>128158319
You do it on my fucking dime

>>128158319
>disabled people deserve to live

-inhale-
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>128171719
Even Lenin would agree with that statement

>>128170496
Pure coincidence!

>>128171191
>1496281729932.jpg
-->Imperial Jews were educated - no one else could craft new government
-->Jews had no allegiance to the Orthodox Church who coronated the Tzar - they could fight the religious state
-->Bolsheviks were native Russians - no "invasion" necessary
-->Stalin was not Jewish - former Russian Orthodox seminary student
-->The "media" never hid the fact - you were just bone-jarringly ignorant all your life.

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>>128158319
Yeah because Soviet Russia really cared about disabled people and definitely didn't call them "invalids" that "didn't belong in Russia." These fucking marxists think that their communist revolution is going to create a peaceful and humanitarian utopia but boy do they have the wrong idea. Source: every communist country in all of history

>>128172572
>Russia is now actually better off than it was under any point under the USSR
That could be said about every developed nation.

>>128159263
Fucking red scum
MacArthur should have finished you off

>>128158319
>Hi, I'm your local commie, here to propose radical ideas like:
> - if you've worked hard to make something of yourself, you should provide clean water and food for niggers who rape your daughter and steal your car
> - Why not seize assets from their owners and give them to meth addicts who can't even remember to wash their own bodies?
> - anyone worse than you is actually better than you. As a trans-disabled-androgyn-poly-kink-turbocrippled-sockpuppet-kin-of-color, you owe me most of what's yours

>>128158319
>What's wrong with communism again?
complete ownership of the state over life

Let's put all the animals on earth in a zoo and give them equal amounts of food and protect them from having to compete for resources!

>>128158319
What's wrong with communism?
1) it's a society that goes upon the HOPE that everyone will work. It may not start out as authoritarian, but it turn into one when the gov has to send soldiers in to get people working... since, why work when you'll just get food anyway?

2) Marxism is dysgenics
-Marxism allows for the most useless of the useless to continue to operate and breed, be it in socialism or communism. Welfare and other programs that these people live off of allow them to just suck up money while doing nothing to get it.
When nobody works and everyone gets free shit, is the moment society starts to die, ALA ancient rome, and the Soviet union.

3) The government can come and take all of the land at any point. Or, they could make an order that results in the deaths of millions, either by accident or on purpose.

>>128173373
>complete ownership of the state over life
No state in communism. Please try again.

>>128159263
Who decides what each person's need is?

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>>128172789
Oups ... sorry they are not Jew they are tengris crypto Zionist dividing since 1760

>>128173226
/thread

>>128173464

Don't give them any ideas. There's animal rights type that is giving dogs and cats in their care vegan pet food.

>>128159263
Prob bait but I'll go ahead and act like a teenage intellectual with you here. Who decides need, who keeps the ruling class in the communist party from getting more than their need, what is the lowest point in a persons needs and the highest, how is this enforced, how is this fair, and the list goes on and on. What about literally every failed commie shithole (Do try to list ones that did not use foreign aid to stay afloat before collapsing after a few years anyhow)? Why not move to China? Communism is a pipe dream of people far removed from reality. It's the idea of a utopia made for everyone but it forgets to take peoples feelings into account and just assumes everyone will love it and be happy but reality does not and has not worked out like that for it.

>>128160549
If you are too stupid to feed yourself and you spend the rest of your days dying in the streets because of it, it is merely natural selection beckoning for you to jump to your grave.

You have nobody but yourself to blame for your own incompetence

>>128160601
The red pill is merely the search, or willingness to search for the truth. If you have an alternative to this then clearly you are retarded and blinded with bullshit

>>128158319
the only good commie is a dead commie.

>>128173557
bullshit, you mean no government

>>128169114
>A FUCKING SURRENDER MONKEY

>>128158319
>These houses belong to someone who had to work for it

>Nothing is free, if you take your fat butt out of the sofa and hunt something and look for water on some river or pond, then it's free.

>We have to take care of people with disabilities, starting with you, go ahead help someone, for free of course

>>128160751
HEY VENEZUELA WHATCHA DOING?

>>128174602
They have no internet connection to awnser your question

>>128160470
>aka me because im totally going to be a ruling member of the party, just like all the other useful idiots.

>>128158319
>folk/folks

Why is this word becoming more and more prevalent?

Seems like it's the leftist buzzword of the moment.

>>128158319
For how many people is the water? Who is cleaning and distributing the water? Who is paying for it and where does the money come from?

Who owns the property for the houses? Who will be paying for all the labor and cost of building said houses? Who will pay for the use of those houses and where does the money come form? Who will maintain those houses?

The disabled meme is just another justification to have people pay for the disabilities of others. Of course comtards will translate it as "these people want the disabled dead!".

>>128173489
>1) it's a society that goes upon the HOPE that everyone will work.
Sure, every society does that, right?
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need"
--Karl Marx, Critique of the Gotha

>It may not start out as authoritarian, but it turns into one when the gov has to send soldiers in to get people working...
Under the commune style of living, every teen is trained in some kind of internship to see what they're good at to maximize their potential. Since their standard of living goes up with more output, they have more incentive to work

>since, why work when you'll just get food anyway?
Ironically, the only neckbeards asking that question are living off their moms in the basement.

>2) Marxism is dysgenics
Russia had ultra-hot women even during the Soviet era.


>-Marxism allows for the most useless of the useless to continue to operate and breed,
Have you listened to Trumps children? Seen them before all the plastic surgery?


>Welfare and other programs that these people live off of allow them to just suck up money while doing nothing to get it.
Communism is not a welfare system. If basic needs are met, men and women are free to pursue their potential. And they will make the most of themselves because they wont be economic slaves to the Jews.

>When nobody works and everyone gets free shit, is the moment society starts to die, ALA ancient rome, and the Soviet union
The Soviet Union started from a bankrupt monarchy with a collapsed economy. In less than 50 years it was America's only superpower rival in the world. But it wasn't communism, it was socialism.


>3) The government can come and take all of the land at any point.
That's how Walmarts get built in America.

>Or, they could make an order that results in the deaths of millions, either by accident or on purpose.
Getting rid of the EPA and CDC is a good way to kickstart that in America.

>>128158319
-loss of individual rights
-loss of property
-loss of freedom to choose your own job
-everything is government-grade brand, no brand no luxury (cuz 4 da peepl)
-no individuality
-often plagued by famine
-never worked out without massive political assassination

>>128174539
>bullshit, you mean no government
Communism is stateless by actual definition. If you believe that means "no government" then that's your bullshit.

>>128174879
>Seems like it's the leftist buzzword of the moment.
Rush Limbaugh says it 500 times a day.

>>128158319
>Hi, i'm your local commie, here to propose scary, radical ideas like:

>Give the government all your shit or get shot
>Starving in abject poverty
>Killing over 100,000,000 innocents

Seems like a good idea Vlad!

>>128158319

It's an unobtainable ideal that has never worked in practice. It's a pipe dream.

And it's dead. Get over it, you under aged faggot.

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>>128158319
>10 buzzwords that will make you think "fuck having private property and shieeet"

you can have a bullet for free

>>128158319
how it talks about being a utopian ideology but doesnt understand that interests need to be abolished.

>>128158319
>disabled people deserve to exist
Why do they always use this same strawman?

>>128159263
so who decides "to each according to their needs" you? "intellectuals"?

>>128161170
Poe's Law or kys sad boy

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>>128158319
>presenting that faggotry as representative of communism
kill yourself, shill

>>128176618
Because apparently only capitalists and Nazi's believed in eugenics

>>128175143
>Russia had ultra-hot women even during the Soviet era.

Dysgenics covers more than just physical appearance you jack ass.

>>128172789
Didn't Germany ship a bunch of Bolshekikes to Russia to kick start the (((revolution))) and take them out of WW1? Bolshevik Jews didn't consider themselves Russian, and they certainly did invade the territory of the Tzar and overthrow his power. You're the ignorant one here herb.

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>>128158319
>>128158319


I got huge problems with the retard part already.

Off the cliff they go.