How On Earth Nazis Aren't Leftists?

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>>128155833
so many reasons we are not liberal is a good start we don't believe in universal rights for all beings

>>128155833
Let's be serious, Obama is not even close to the league of these other 2 as far as importance and influence.

>>128155833
They don't subscribe to the leftist idea of equality.

>>128157679
That just makes you authoritarian. Doesn't mean you aren't liberals.

>>128155833
>Sndigeh
What did Lenin mean by this?

>>128158738
Equality of races, probably not, because it's has nothing to do with leftism.
Equality of outcome, yes, that is leftist. Which Nazis did believe.

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>>128155833

WE MUST PHYSICALLY REMOVE SOCIALISTS OF ALL KINDS

>>128155833
Saudi education should have taught you that's not how change is spelled in cyrillic you bed sheet wearin, absolutely zero foreskin having, fag

people on pol call themselves natsoc but they are really just white nationalists. they reject socialism

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>>128155833

Change?

>>128158956
That's not authoritarianism, retard. That's anti egalitarianism

>>128155833
Change in Russian pronounced "seedeegeh"?

>>128159565
Lolberts are so cringeworthy

>>128159142
>Left-wing politics supports social equality and egalitarianism, often in opposition to social hierarchy and social inequality.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics
Nazis were anti-egalitarian and in favor of social hierarchy. They did not believe in equality of outcome.

All leftists are controlled by the filthy jewish media.

After the fall of Nazism at the end of World war 2, the Nazi ideology was reviled, fearing this would extend to all socialism due to immense similarities in beliefs and origin, marxists en masse pushed this "Nazis are far right" meme and it stuck.

Just as Catholic and Protestant Christians hate each other's guts, Sunni and Shia muslims hate each other's guts, Marxists and Nazis are Lefties that hate each other's guts.

>>128155833
What a retarded picture.
If shit is bad do you expect the message "Continue"?

Hitler was quite cool and Nationalsocialism and shit was seen as the way to go - until we lost the war and apparently industrialised mass murdee....ooops. No really, nat socialism was seen as the way to go but got totally BTFO cause the war was lost

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>>128160190
Said the literal autist. At least some libertarians aren't socially retarded unlike 100% of natsocfags

>>128160190
I remember hearing that when bitcoin was a dollar

>Obama is a radical
Was there ever a more retarded meme?

>>128155833
Shekel for a good goy.

>>128155833
>using wiki as a source
>doesn't think Hitler was right

Fuck off kike

>>128155833
>S N D I G E
Triggered.

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>>128155833
National socialism is athoritarian centre it combines the best of communism and the best of capitalism.

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>>128155833
How Hitler killed the banking system that you capitalist faggots want to slave for

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>>128155833
First read and educate on what nat soc is you faggots

>>128161478
NS is totalitarian. Authoritharian is not the same as totalitarian. And no, by default totalitarian ideologies are not centrist.

>>128155833
>it's another episode of the left are the real racists

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>>128155833
National socialism is colectivist individualistic cunts should be exterminated,you are the cancer that gave birth to modern leftists."Muh everybody matter,muh freeedom,i can be a faggot,i should be entitled to my opinion,muh stronk womin voting etc".
INdividualism is cancer and only nationalism can cure it.

>>128161561
>Germany poorest nation in Europe
>Versailles reparations impossible to pay
>Schacht was a bad guy and was fired because he opposed fiat money
>post-Schacht Nazi "economics" being good
Yep, just another neo-Nazi load of bullshit.

>>128161688
Checked then tell me what are they if not centrist,economically is more centre than most of the "sceptic" faggots in this world and you tube.It has socialist policies like free healthcare,pensions and subsidies for women with children,but it allows for private property and eneterprise.What is it if not centre?

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>>128161478

The problem with that cute quote stormfags always post in these threads is that it didn't reflect their actual economic policy

>>128155833
>It would be better for us to go down with Bolshevism than to live in eternal slavery under capitalism.
Bolshevism destroys the body, capitalism infects the soul with spiritual syphilis. Priests were violently attacked and reviled in Soviet Russia, but many of them stuck to their convictions. They were killed, but they died as devout Orthodox Christians. Eastern Europeans these days are far more spiritually healthy and nationalistic than Western Europeans. One side lived under the USSR, the other under capitalist American influence.
>muh materialist dichotomy
>muh political compass

>>128161721
>flag
I'm not sure what to think.

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Nazis are literally communists on a national scale

>>128155833
They also had a very right wing social policy.

>>128162221
Except it did,unlike communism it allowed for private property and enterprise.Its true that the market was regulated but that is one of the best things about it.

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Democracy guives birth to weak societies and corrupt governments.

>>128155833

The Nazis were leftists, until FDR rewrote US history as a favor to Stalin.

UK's Oxford Union, in particular, publicly declared that if war broke out between the The Crown and Der Fuhrer, they would support Der Fuhrer.

>>128155833
You were very brief when describing nazis as collectivists.

Hitler very much believed that every great accomplishment and invention of mankind was the product of the individual.

Once you served in the military and got your citizenship you had equal rights and could vote for Fuhrer at the end of each term.

Doesn't sound very collectivist to the point of leftism to me.

>>128155833
Hitler believed in individualism stupid sandnigger
READ MEIN KAMPF

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Extra explanation for you lolberts.

well it sure is summer here

>>128162177
Original NS was far-left in economics. Hitler was arguably centrist, however in practice that was only because he betrayed the left wing of NSDAP in order to attract old conservatives and industrialists. Hitler was a fucking traitor on that account alone, but whatever.
>socialist policies
Bismarckian Germany had socialist policies. Germany had first socialist policies in the world.
>allows for private property
It also allows The Party to do whatever the fuck they want. Your private property is respected as long as state doesn't need it. And when the state needs it is decided by the leader, or leaders.
This "Nazis were the real liberals" idiocy needs to stop. It was a totalitarian society just like USSR, only not so brutal and pervasive.
But no because Nazis were better. It was because pre-Nazi Germany was still strong. Pre-Bolshevik Russia was dead or in exile. That's the real difference. Not slogans and your fantasies.

>>128162462
That's why fascist societies are flourishing right now. Oh wait. None exist. Except maybe North Korea. What a lovely place, right?

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>>128155833
>That's right, Nazis had more common ground with communists than capitalism.
Stopped reading there. What is this new shill tactic? Don't you guys have any self-awareness? You're pushing too hard too fast and it's obvious.

>>128162582
>Führer
>terms
What in the actual fuck are you talking about?

> R E A D
> M E I N
> K A M P F
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>>128163037
But he's absolutely correct. Strasserites even suggested an alliance with USSR.

>>128158622
>universal healthcare
destroyed every worker in the country

>>128163037
this

>>128163134
And they all got butchered for their Marxist kike-sympathizing autism. Your point?

>>128163134
and those commies got dealt with

>>128158956
Liberals are libertarian.

Hitler is pure authoritarian.

>>128157679
Communist dont believe in rights either dumbass

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>>128162898
Exactly if the state needs it they should be able to aquire it,i never said that they were liberals and of course its a harsh totalitarian system,what are you a faggot?!
Such a system ifs the most efficient,a suystem based on the self-scrifice of the individual and if the individual is unwilling the state should give him alittle push.
Any totalitarian system would crush his liberal equal 9/10 times no discussion.You do not undrstand that what most of /pol/s fscists nat socs will is a totalitarian system.
And then again you are only as free as your stomach...kek.As you can see today in the west they have censored media,if you criticise muslims you get charged,you cant defend yourself.Freedom is a false god just like equality.

>>128163374
Neoliberals of today are authoritarians

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>>128155833
National (((Socialism)))

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>>128162760
its for private property but you need government programs?
>>128163037
this is an old argument you guys are just newfags

>>128163502
NAP OR DIE

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THIS IS A BAIT THREAD
SAGE GOES INTO ALL FIELDS

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>>128163502
Figt me irl faggot

>>128162991
You didn't give any reasons to back up your claim.
Muh None existing argument is low tier.

>>128163064
Germanic Democracy was the form of government proposed by Hitler. Where a general election would elect an absolute leader for a certain period of time.

It's in Mein Kampf.

>>128162991

>North Korea
>Fascists

Okay mountain nigger, will you mind not being retarded?

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>>128155833

>>128159565
That violates the nap you cringeworthy faggot

>>128155833
/pol/ will never admit Hitler was a socialist because he was an authoritarian nationalist too. They have been taught to believe they're mutually exclusive ideologies..

>>128163484

>State
>Such a system ifs the most efficient
Do you even realize in what nation do you fucking live in?

>>128163539
I never knew the (((true political Spectrum))) is founded on a right triangle.

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>>128164142
The physical removal posters are just the bastard children of the magapedes and the natsocs that don't fit in anywhere.

>>128163295
>>128163298
t. industrialist puppets
Strasser did nothing wrong.
>>128163484
When you force people to sacrifice it's not sacrifice. Totalitarian systems always descend into power abuse. Power corrupts.
>freedom is false God
Absolute freedom, perhaps. Some freedom, some basic freedoms, nope.
>>128163706
But there would be no elections after the first one. No terms.
And that probably wouldn't happen. After Hitler's death party would elect a succesor. Or more likely, he would designate a successor and powerful party members would accept him or fight it out.

>>128164207
I blame these liberal arts cunts that teach that if you are a racist you are right wing and if you are leftist you believe in same-sex marriage and women's rights.

The made the political views into a flat 1-dimensional line. When the political scale is 2-D scale.

Left v. Right
Authoritarian v. Libertarian

The same Nazis that oppose free government healthcare was implemented by Nazis.
I guess Hitler did something wrong.

>>128163859
Read more brother. Juche is today de facto fascism. They even dropped all references to Marxism in their ideology.

>>128165420

>Juche is today de facto fascism.
No it's not, it has about as much to do with Fascism as Ceausecu's Communism.

>>128155833
>What makes the Nazis a fascist government is that it only believed Socialism for one race, the "Aryan" race. Hence Nat-Soc, as in National Socialism.

Only the Aryan race deserves to survive. So shut the fuck up and go troll Reddit, Brock.

>>128155833
No one gives a fuck. If being a Nazi makes me left-wing, I guess I'm left-wing.

>>128165234
This is a lot of speculation. Obviously, the initial leadership structure was an exception for transition.

I believe Hitler would have pulled something similiar to George Washington after the war. Set up election, term limits, and stepped down from power.

>>128165583
Again, read more.
And stop gobbling up Western ideologies and Western culture.
We Orthodox people have a different culture and history. We must make our own way, not adopt foreign ways.

>>128165689
I highly doubt that. Hitler set up the state in a way to maximize his own personal power, by making himself the arbiter.
And finally, Hitler was a failure. Stop idolizing failures. He made shitload of mistakes. He almost ruined Europe.

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Nazism is very capitalistic. Ask schindler. And karl marx was a fucking jew.

>>128165767
>Again, read more.
I already have, though the modern NK has a Nationalist Communist streak it's far from Francoist Spain, Salazar's Portugal, Fascist Italy or Legionary Romania, or their core ideology.
There is a reason I brought up Ceausecu, because he was also a Nat-Com, which is not proper Gommunism but it's not Fascism either.

>We must make our own way, not adopt foreign ways.
We no longer have the means to make our own way, the system that worked which was Orthodox Monarchy is gone now do to western infiltration and attack during the 19th and 20th century. And we no longer have the means to bring it back as the Church has been damaged, we have nothing resembling nobles as we haven't had a warrior class in a century and a half and our very identity is being slowly eroded during the early periods of childhood do to propaganda.

>>128157679
>only understands the term liberal from pol memes

>>128165952
The rest of Europe didn't matter to Hitler, so you need to weigh his successes off what he did for the German people.

All the cities were bombed and the country was divided up, but if you look at what really matters: the genetic quality of the people. Hitler was a blessing.

Why has Germany rebounded so quickly and so much greater than any other European country. Because all the Eugenics in the 30s and 40s bore fruit.

Germans today a the cream of the crop of what they were 100 years ago. Trials and tribulations only serve to make a race stronger if they don't damage racial purity. And if the racial purity stays the same, it's only a matter of time before there is a reawakening.

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>>128163116
>calling others sand niggers
>can't even meme arrow properly
Stormweenies sure are the epitomy of the glorious white race.

>>128162898
No one called them liberals, idiot. They just don't fit with the modern understanding of the right. They are pretty hard to pin down on the political spectrum because they tried to win over people on both sides. Germany had suffered from hyperinflation and hitler understood the need for certain socialist policy, whilst also understanding the need for hierarchy and social mobility in society. Honestly, the nazis had their own thing going for a while, that completely blew apart the left/right paradigm. Too bad he ruined it with his autism.

>>128160298
>(You)
Egalitarianism has nothing to do with being on the left or right, it has to do with Up or Down. Authoritarianism or Libertarianism.

>>128155833
>That's right, Nazis had more common ground with communists than capitalism
Yes, thing is, they were neither. The kikes made you believe communism and capitalism are the only systems that exist - because they control both.

>>128171387
Then talk about it. What else is there?
And if you tell me that Socialism is different than communism, then please go kill yourself. You are a waste of everyone's time.

>>128164207
im actually a little surprised this is even coming up. i thought it was common knowledge on /pol/ that nazis were socialists. It was so years ago. It seems the demographics of /pol/ really have changed. Has /pol/ really been dumbed down that much?

/pol/ has too many god damn normies now.