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anecdotal experience here but I wanna know if others experienced something similar.

I never put much weight on IQ test in the past, first took one when I was 16 and got 115 now when my buddies took the same test they got 130 and 145. Its been 10 years later the guy with 145 IQ is writing his thesis to get his PHD in physics.

So I took the iq test again recently and again got 115 so not only has it been consistent but it also predicted our relative success in life.

enough back story now when I talk complicated ideas with them (we program together) I can hardly understand 145 IQ but 130 IQ understands him and then can dumb down the explanation enough for me to get it.
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what test did you take?
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>>128146874
I took an IQ test (administered by a psychologist) when I was 17 and scored 127. Everyone says I'm smart (some people say I'm the smartest person they know, doubt it though) and I've certainly done more with myself than most of my friends (Managed to get a First in Genetics at a Russel Group university [top-tier in the UK])
Most of my friends watch TV/Ball sports and that's all they talk about which frustrates me as I really don't enjoy those sorts of things but we still get on ok.

IQ definitely impacts real world performance and certainly is a real thing.
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>>128146874
OP it depends on the topic of the complicated ideas, was it math or general programming mumbo?

I have talked theoretical physics with friends who finished their Bsc in physics and they had not once just stared at me in awe declaring that they had never thought of it in that way and that they think I might be genius. But the matter of fact is that I'm horrid at simple math, but I'm great at complex math, go fucking figure, it's like our brains are unique and each is excllent at one task (for me is complex problem solving) but for you it might be verbal logic so you will make a great lawyer.

Basically, don't think the IQ test is 100% accurate, since it misses on important details about your mental ability. And don't think someone is smarter than you just because he's better than you at 1 topic.
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>>128149173
Jew.
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>>128146874

Physics PHD here. It is mostly a waste of time.
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>>128149173
>"we r all good at something! XD don't judge we're all the same desu IQ is nothing XDXD"
Sounds pretty fucking Jewish to me, kike.
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I always score in the 140-150 range in online IQ tests. Is it worth taking a real one?
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>>128149494
>we r all good at something
we are.

how many white people are there in the NBA?
how many non-jewish lawyers are there?
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>>128149919
Jew rat.
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>>128150274
>>128149268
sub 90 IQ
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>>128150678
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>>128146874
ayeee, I bet your friends are interesting to talk with though.

I have a 145 (a legit 145, took the test by a doctor) and I get bored talking to people.

I pretty much have fun by figuring out exactly what they will say and do next. Parties are an exercise of setting puppets to interact with each other to predictable outcomes.
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>>128151018
what does that image have to do with me? lol
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>>128151339
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>>128151143
>t. guy who got 12 on his test
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>>128146874
Tested between 133-169 (133 and 169 on Stanford-Binet 4, 145+ on some other test that I don't know the name of). I find myself skipping a lot of obvious steps in my explanations with the assumption that everyone can follow. When I try to break concepts down into the simplest terms possible, normies treat me like I'm a retard. I have started adding pomp words when talking to normies and I find that helps. Whenever two contentious viewpoints arise, I've noticed people have a very hard time isolating what makes them different and the merits of each. Their arguments dance around the issue rather than driving to a central truth. It can be frustrating especially with regard to politics, which is probably why I seldom discuss it.
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>>128149173
I agree. as a simple analogy, think that in general there are "athletic" people, and yet even athletes differ in how they specialize, despite all being "athletic", same goes for intellect. tiger woods isn't a famous quarterback, einstein wasn't a renowned composer, etc.
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>>128149173

My IQ is 125 and my father is 120.The thing is he's so mentally ill it cannot be reasonably said that he's a real person. He isn't 5 point less than me, he's 50% less of a human in some deep and final sense.

IQ definitely is useful and valuable though, it usually will tell you what you need to know, but it can't explain everything.
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>>128153178
t. pleb

Smart people have no real difficulty explaining true things to dumb people. It is the mediocrity in the "educated" class who have their brains pumped full of nonsense they sincerely believe who perceive communication difficulties with the mentally challenged.
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Totally off-topic regarding communication...
What is the bottom-line reason people get upset about IQ tests?
Sure a person can practice logic puzzles all day and get a better IQ score, or be hung over and get a worse score, but that isn't going to make an 80 IQ retard come even close to the cleverness of a 140 IQ clever person. Just because there is a spectrum of heights doesn't mean there aren't very short or very tall people either.
Main reason I suspect IQ tests are attacked so much is because it is a quantifiable way to say someone or some group is inferior to another.
Suppose that every argument against IQ tests were acknowledged and fixed magically so one could measure 1000 unwavering constants that accurately identify someone's intelligence. People would still oppose it because it would reveal uncomfortable truths and still show that someone is inferior in some way.
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>>128146874
Have a redpill:
http://www.t3x.org/iq/window.html
Quick rundown: people can comprehend others in +/- 20 IQ points window. Anyone outside it would sound either like a retard or like SHODAN.
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>>128146874
I have a self tested IQ of 189

Your 145 IQ friend has nothing on me
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>>128147480
I took a bunch of IQ tests and used the one that gave me the lowest result was trying to stay away from things that just wanted to inflate my ego.
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115 ? I am fourteen and i got 139
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I'm a member of Mensa but I'm also a drug addict so I haven't accomplished anything consequential in life. Except joining Mensa, I guess.
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>>128153978
MODS

MODS

MODS
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>>128153508
IQ is compound I think in the way that a person who is smart to begin with will naturally use their time/fill their head with better quality material. i.e. reading novels vs. playing game boy as a young child. the differences grow more stark as the compounding increases. if an average person did jack shit as a child in the way of enriching, stimulating material, they may have screwed themselves. development matters
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>>128151339
Bahaha and those people you speak with are having a delightful time witnessing your autistic antics. It's a win-win
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>>128153419
This is the exact response I expected. Don't worry, you are a unique, beautiful flower. Your intelligence is special and no one can touch it. :)
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>>128153595

holy shit this is exactly what I was talking about
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>>128153752

that's bullshit but I believe it
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>>128153978
MODS


MODS


MODS
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>>128153978
139?

I'm 6 and I got 231
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>>128146874
And now ask your friends what they think of iq, if it is tied with race, if gender is a social construct, etc. and then realise you're the smartest of your group.
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Is it possible to retrieve my old tests? They were psychiatrically administered and I vaguely remember getting 127 but I want to be sure.
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>>128153867
You're supposed to take the average assuming you're not using online meme tests.
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>>128154840

I notice they are prone to the authority logical fallacy where if an expert says something they automatically agree. the 145 iq is far left me and 130 IQ disagree with him
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>>128151838
Exactly what I was imagining kek
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QUESTION: Who creates the IQ tests? A 200+ IQ genius? How else would they know if someone got a wrong answer?
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>>128154731
Lol
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>>128151339
>Smart but woefully and comically lacking self awareness
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>>128155697
XD
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>>128151339
Judging by this post, there are definitely areas in your brain that are extremely underdeveloped.
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>>128151339

if what you say is true I would advise against doing that. I used to have a buddy that was full sociopath like that could make people do things they wouldnt normally do (sold drugs some how convinced girls to have threesomes easily) but all his relationships last about a year after that people dont really know why they hate him but deep down they know they are being used.
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I think that iq is no big deal just potential of perosn it depands on person if he will sit on his ass all life doing nothing or work hard to achieve something so it doesn't matter how much iq you have untill you are a lazy cuck surfing pol and watching porn
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>>128156207
>Zero punctuation
>51-word sentence
>bashing IQ
Yep, definitely sub-100 there mate
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>>128146874
I took one that I don't remember the name of in 1st grade and got a 141, and then took the slosson? in 3rd grade which gave me a 150+? or something like that and my parents let them get to my head and put me in advanced classes and everything while not bothering to police my homework which led me to vastly underperforming throughout school while skating by since I'd get 90+ on every test even though not doing my homework and even failing to complete labs would leave me near failing all the time.
I'm successful now because I lazily joined the military and used that to fund a college degree in a medical field that requires licensure and skated through that as well, probably graduating at the bottom of my class, but my potential was way higher.
Lesson is, hard work will get you farther than being smart, IQ can let you skate through life comfortably, but its only as good as the effort put into polishing it
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>>128153419
Well, you're sort of correct.

If we want to be specific, I suppose I can be of help.

Communication issues often arise in those who show symptoms of Aspergers Syndrome and other forms of autism. I would know.

You can be truly smart, lake autistic qualities, and be a fantastic communicator. You can also be truly smart, have autistic qualities, and be a horrid communicator.

These things certainly are measurable, and they certainly are meaningful.

Just because one has difficulty expressing themselves in whatever ways, doesn't at all diminish their intelligence.

The real issue that we're all sort of missing is that despite IQ tests being decent indicators of intellect, what matters above all else is the relative nature of given knowledge. Just because a physicist is 145 IQ and a programmer is 140 IQ , doesn't exactly mean the physicist is particularly better it their job. For all we know, the programmer significantly out performs the physicist.

It's easy to misshape things when we leave out important details.
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My IQ tested at least 130 on the Stanford-Binet at age 13. I'm 18 now and have had no intellectual stimulation over the past year and a half due to my status as a mentally ill NEET.

My IQ has surely dropped, right? I'm afraid to even consider taking it again.
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>>128156494
Actually iq is not based on knowing how to write sentences prperly. It is based on ability to think logically. Anglo
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Any thread about IQ will get you tons of (you)'s, regardless of which forum you are on on the internet. I've never felt insecure about my IQ and I've never seen it as an extension of my personality in that way. I'm guessing mine would be somewhere around 125.
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>>128157364
*tested at 130
My phone tried to complete my train of thought I guess
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>>128154021
is being a junkie the real redpill?
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>>128146874
IQ 138
stay-at-home-dad
i broke through the matrix bros
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My IQ was tested in school, I was joining Gifted and Talented program, prolly in 5th grade. I got 135, since then I've done online tests and get 145 every time basically. The more I succeed in life, the more I feel ripped off from my shit upbringing and my deadbeat family I'm burdened with caring for. Using my smarts just makes me relate with my family less, adds to depression of how stupid most people are, and that life is generally miserable and imperfect the more you figure things out.
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>>128146874
Most people seriously underestimate the power of a high IQ.
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I did the mensa iq test and got 177.. not sure if their test is legit. i do think much differently and rationalize better than others.. i also pick up on patterns easy which has allowed me to understand a few languages i cant speak. I figure and learn most things on my own and im very quick and solving a puzzle. Sadly im in a trade and run my own business. My success is less about intellect and more about charisma
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>>128157364
thats exactly what i thought as well

finally someone understands
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>>128157364
I am too a mentally ill NEET I abused MDMA for a long time and thought I was gonna be retarded for the rest of my life. Turns out my intelligence is fine but my emotions are shit
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>>128158194
that was the most boastful post ive ever read in my life. and just a few minutes ago i stated that i have personally broken through the matrix
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>>128158194
>177
>>128157995
>135
>>128157627
>138
>>128157562
>130
>>128157434
>125
>>128156944
>141
>>128154890
>127
>>128153978
>139
>>128153248
>125
>>128153178
>133
>>128151339
>145
>>128147677
>127
>>128146874
>115

Looks like the average /pol/ user from (including the /r/thedonald cancer) has an IQ two standard-deviations above the norm. Interesting.
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>>128159318
I know that you're ironic, but
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias
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>>128159318
I barely post on /pol/. Perhaps you're just being insecure.
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>>128159318
>Looks like the average /pol/ user from (including the /r/thedonald cancer) has an IQ two standard-deviations above the norm

yeah and everybody has a PhD in shitposting
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A thread about IQ is about as drunk tier as it gets. A bunch of people shouting over one another not having read the other replies at all. At least drunks are honest in their deception.
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>>128159746
>>128159629
I'm actually not being ironic at all, it genuinely is interesting
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>>128159629
Thank you for posting this my Russian friend, this was a very helpful link.

I feel that especially on /pol/ we tend to overlook things like this.
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>>128159318
Who the fuck would post to brag about having a sub-100 IQ?
>133
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