Did Muslims actually develop and create the west?
https://twitter.com/NishikiMaredia/status/869838455303548929
>>128115130
Muslims came about during the 7th century AD. I seem to recall Rome and Athens being built well before that
>>128115130
WE WUZ ANCIENT BABYLON N SHIET
>blows up zoroastrian artifacts
>>128115130
WE WUZ PERSIAN MATHEMATICIANZ
>>128115942
WE WUZ BYZANTIUM LIBRARIANS
>>128115130
No, their most valuable contribution was introducing the Arabic numeral system to the west. This was actually invented by the Indians though, as evidenced by the fact that they're called Indian numerals in Arabic.
There were some important scientists and philosophers in the golden age of Islam, but this culture of learning died out and nothing of value has come out of the Arab world ever since.
>>128115130
They invented and developed, expanded on stuff, they didn't just invent/create
http://islamichistory.org/islamic-golden-age/
>>128115130
Well, if it wasn't for Muslims the Crusades never would have happened. So there's that.
>>128116507
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>>128116626
>6.000.000 civilians (hebrew sources)
>>128116626
I wonder if it's due to the mongols back then that we know have to deal with current Islam today
>>128116821
Might be true. In any case, it had huge impact.
>>128115130
Dat level of delusion lol
>>128115579
Yeah what in the fuck?
>>128115130
>Sandniggers are now getting in on the WE WUZing
>>128115130
she's absolutely right!
and b.t.w remember you CANNOT drink any alcohol this month you dirty Kuffar, OR ELSE!!
https://www.rt.com/news/390417-paris-attack-muslim-dress-beer/
>>128116626
>>128116932
Kind of ironic now that most of the mongols converted to Islam
>>128117172
yeah but unlike niggers, mudslime's WE WUZING was real
>>128116034
WE WUZ DA LIGHT OF SIVALIZASHUN N SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
>>128117260
bruh? they didnt
These people always say this but can't refute their fucking point, ever
>>128117392
To be fair, why would they want to refute their own point?
>>128115579
Ancient greece would send their noble youth to africa for education.. i think roman did it also.. at that time africa was a old land with lotd of knowledge.. after the fall of rome.. all the knowlesge in the west was lost because the ppl either destroyed it all or just couldnt read...
When europe went into darkages the mussie were still thriving and oushing forward.. as was most of the world..
The white barbariana who eventually claimed western eurooe and settled to become what we see today kinda relearned alot from warring and crossing oaths with the mussies. So ya.. whites were savage garbage when everyone wuz kang
>>128115130
It also looks like not even the poster knows what a muslim is lol , it is someone who follows islam , it is not a race,talk about a dum dum...
>>128117172
Technixally midevil days muslims win and bfto white christians in the long run.. turkey should be a christian nation.. it was once the centee of eastern rome
She's sort of right, but she ignores the fact that almost every civilisation has benefited quite a bit from the knowledge of previous or other civilisations. Sure, during the Islamic golden age they contributed quite a bit to the arts and sciences. But so did other groups during their golden ages, and almost none of it compares to the sheer volume of contributions to science in Europe during the past few hundred years.
>>128117566
A rational person vets their set of beliefs and what they deem to be objective reality.
>>128115130
lol no
>>128117910
>>128115130
Bullshitting like always.
>>128117937
>>128117664
>Dark ages
That concept is mostly propaganda from the renaissance which served to 'romanticise' the civilisations of rome and greece.
>>128117664
>To Africa
Nigga what? Romans didn't often send their kids anywhere except the military or to Greece, but even that was sketchy. Better to just hire a tutor. Nobody sent shit to Egypt, it was a wealthy province and integral to the empire but not a beacon of learning. The notable exception would be Alexandria, which did host a large contingent of students from outside of Egypt, but that was a city built by a Macedonian and in this period the nobles of Egypt were mostly of Greek decent.
>>128117664
spicy bait but the flag betrays your end goals, leaf
>>128115130
if muslim civilisation was so great, why is it so shit now? every muslim country that hasnt got oil money is an utter shithole.
>>128116626
Didn't know Mongols fought Ayyy Lmaos
>>128115130
why is she talking like she's a nigger?
>>128115130
She isn't even Arab.
>>128117664
Holy shit this can't be real
>>128115130
Wow, how amazing. Continue to show us how it's done out of our countries. Death to all sand niggers, including women and children. Carpet nuke bomb glass the whole place, starting with Israel.
>>128119540
Come on mayne I'm a sand nigger myself
>>128115130
>look at all this shit we supposedly invented
>so stop being mad at us for murdering your kids and raping your wives
>>128115130
Mulsims are very good at appropriation, that is they claim to have invented every technology they stumbled upon on their conquests.They smile at you and say, "we have invented algebra!" when islam didnt even exist when algebra was first mentioned between the 1st and 4th century.
Fucking scum.
WE WUZ MOONLADING INSHA'ALLAH!
>>128115130
> the fucking flamenco is supposedly muslim
oh my.
>>128115130
>Posts on Twitter
>Western creation
>Claims to have brought everything
Pls go
>>128115130
These are the same Islamic scientists who all developed technology that so happened to work towards their religious ends, the same 'scientists' who declared the world flat because the Koran said so, no matter that the Greeks discovered its curvature around 800 - 1000 years earlier. They were corrupt and had a bunch of pre-conceptions that led to the stuff they did do, being genuinely minimal at best, when concerning its influence on science as a field.
>>128115130
>what is antiquity
Romans and Greeks had all of those things. And European nobles during the time of the first crusade were very hygienic. Also European farming was much more efficient than Arab farming, the Arabs adopted many of these new methods from the new crusader states in the levant. It was a give take relationship in regards to technology.
>>128115130
Unless Muslim Kangz from the future invent time machines, then it's literally impossible for them to have invented Western Civilization.
>Math
Existed prior to Muslims
>Literature
Existed prior to Muslims
>Science
Existed prior to Muslims
>Music
Existed prior to Muslims
>Art
Existed prior to Muslims
>Architecture
Existed prior to Muslims
>Hygiene
Sure, it fell in and out of favor, but it also existed prior to Muslims
>Fruit
>Irrigation
Not sure if these are two separate categories, but regardless, yes, they existed prior to Muslims
>flamenco
Well, I can't speak with authority on that one.
>islamaphobic
It's a not a phobia to fear violent retards, it's common sense.
>yt ppl take thing and eradicate local culture
I don't see Western Europeans mass migrating to Muslim countries and ruining local culture.
I guess we rekt the secular baath party affiliates in Iraq and Syria. Though that just led to Islamic re-enrichment of the areas.
>>128117971
good list but
>toothbrushed
pretty sure ive read that ancient europeans would make toothbrushes out of stiff hairs from animals attached to a stick
>>128115130
No, all they brought to Romania was fresh bodies to impale.
>>128117260
Yuan remained stronk, but it's lax policy allowed many Muslims to enter China.
Golden Horde ended up intermingling and converting.
Chagatai kept seperate, and still shamanist, from their muslim subjects but eventually the kingdom collapsed.
Ilkhanate properly converted.
Of the land they conquered, most ended up Islamic eventually, but only Ilkhanate and the Golden Horde had signficant amounts of Mongolians converting, and the latter only due to centuries of interbreeding leaving their descendents having mostly Muslim ancestors.
>>128117664
>Ancient greece would send their noble youth to africa for education
Nope. By the way, now that it turns out the ruling class of Egypt were European, I wonder if we can start to assume Carthage was a bunch of transplanted wogs too.
>i think roman did it also
No. They did kidnap hair backed olive niggers from Greece to tutor their brats though.
>at that time africa was a old land with a lotd of knowledge
Well...North Africa. There's the whole Black Part of the continent that contained pretty much nothing.
>all the knowlesge in the west was lost because the ppl either destroyed it all or just couldnt read...
It was hoarded by the Crypto-Jews otherwise known as Le Church (for our own good of course).
>thriving, pushing forward
Well, muddling along slowly. To be fair the Mongols put a bit of a damper on the entire Eastern hemisphere with their shenanigans.
>So ya...whites were savage garbage when everyone wuz kang
No. They were literally Kangz. They just treated their populations like fucking turds, and those populations were savage garbage.
Something the Arab world has been doing for the past 500 years quite comfortably too.
Meanwhile...Blacks...well...they were always, and remain, savage garbage.
>>128115130
The greatest "Muslim" achievements were because of the conquest of the most cosmopolitan and urban part of the world. A place that only converted to Islam because of occupation and favourable conditions being granted to Muslim converts and even then they didn't want too many because it would undercut their tax system based on ruling over other religions.
Europeans invented things after elevating their own people of their own accord.
That's like saying because they use phones to set off bombs nokia pioneered muslim culture
>>128115130
All muslims did is reintroduce Aristotle to the conversation and further some theology through Avicenna and Averroes.
Their contributions shouldn't be ignored but the leftists want to exaggerate them to an absurd extreme.
>>128115130
Europe was basically 3rd world shithole before massive colonization that started in 15 century.
So yeah. East did developed lots of stuff. It wasn't really muslims tho. Islam haven't even existed when ancient arabs were doing math and playing chess already (I would event say that Islam was one of the contributors to the Asian downfall)
>>128121388
>Europe was basically 3rd world shithole before massive colonization that started in 15 century.
That statement is not true and based on (still common) misconceptions about the middle ages.
>>128116821
Mongols where terrifying shit they would do was Vlad Tepes Dracul tier on a scale of 2 continents.
Those guys where no joke.
>>128116530
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>>128117212
>https://twitter.com/NishikiMaredia/status/869838455303548929
take a bottle out of that and smash the fucker to bits.
>>128121657
vlad approves
bff
>>128115130
whats the brain disease called when your a muslim and believe that there was no civilisation before a cavern dweller rapist child molester prophet? when your so inferior in science/culture and come to EU/USA and still prefer to keep your cavern dweller fashion/habits with ultimate pride?
>>128120742
exactly, horse tail hair and the likes. Also shit for the air made from tusks and bones. the vikings already did that.
>>128121657
Any good links or stories about that?
No, it's typical kangzing. Only after th e fall of the roman empire did islam develop and they got most if these things that she cited from them. They entered their "golden age" like this
>>128115130
I'm black and guess what you racist fucks we were Kings in egypt while you were in caves you pale skin monkeys kys
>>128122680
>>128115130
>we wuz kingz n shieett
>>128115130
we wuz shahz n shieeeeeeeeeeet
>>128117212
that bitch got heart
>>128121600
True. Even if europe was really shit compared to the romans, it wasnt that bad. The extreme filth and brutal torture were propaganda spread during the enlightement.
>>128115130
>we didn't burn ALL the books
>that means we were the innovators of all that we didn't destroy
>muh muzzie golden age
>>128119834
underrated post
>>128122530
Dan Carling's hardcore history is a nice run down of the Mongolian empire imho.
The episodes are named "wrath of the khans". He talks a bit about how they where a significant crippling factor to the Arab world.
>>128116161
Whaaaat, the Arab world has contributed a lot to the entrainment culture of the west. The latest Arabic band just had its concert in Manchester and I've heard from multiple sources that it was absolutely mind blowing.