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Net Neutrality is now officially dead

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>>/g/60703104

Welp its been fun guize.

If you are a Comcast customer you've just kissed Archive.org goodbye.

Thats right.

If you have Comcast internet you can no longer access Archive.org

We can all thank Trump for this. Now I know that at least when my kids are growing up in a world with global warming and climate change speeding out of control, at least they wont be able to look back at how things used to be. So hey, its a plus because they wont know how bad they really have it.

thanks mr president.
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>>128102396
sorry, wrong link guys

>https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/60703104/
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>>128102396
Good. Appointing based Ajit Pai to the FCC is literally Obama's greatest accomplishment.
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seth rich was killed by the dnc
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Sometimes, Americans have to suffer a bit before they realize they've made a mistake.
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comcast is literally filtering packets bound for archive.org as soon as they hit the comcast network
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>>128102396
Good, I hope 4chan will be next. Good, conservative Americans shouldn't spend time on a such degenerate site.
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>>128102783
Yeah, it took 8 years of Obama for us to realize our mistake. Good point, leaf.
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>>128102396
>>128102600
>>128102662
>>128102921
>>128102997
>>128103010
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *inhale* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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comcast here.
packets to archive.org are dropped by the first comcast router they hit
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>>128102783
Americans have bad low IQ favoring genes. They'll never learn. Not ever. They'll always shill for the rich because they're fucking stupid.
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Kike drones who suck trump's dick will defend this.
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Comcast fag here

at this point everyone should have the ability to use a VPN so who gives a fuck
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>>128102396
If you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to worry. Period.
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>>128103525
comcast here as well.

I can confirm that the website is perfectly reachable from seemingly anything thats not comcast. proxys work, tor works, vpns work, etc.

but why the fuck should I have to use proxies and such to access a website??? in not in freaking highschool anymore I shouldnt have to still do this shit
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>>128103649
This doesn't have anything to do with privacy. It has to do with literally breaking the internet for profit.
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Trump is the worest president in history.
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>>128102396
>>128102594
get your shit together OP
>>>/g/60703104
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>muh capitalism
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>>128103525
>>128103659
You know the solution. So long as the plebs tolerate the rich doing evil shit and continue giving them money to do it, they will keep making everything worse. Forever.

Y'all muthafuckas was warned. Many times.
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>>128102396
>Having Comcast instead of Infinitum.
Dumb Americans
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>>128102396
archive.is
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>>128103813
This thumbnail always looks like scary zombie flesh open sores to me.
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>>128103765
So they blocked archive.org because it prevents sites from getting clicks? Doesn't that also apply to the google cache??
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>>128103972

hell yeah
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>>128103813
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-ethics-idUSKBN18S3P9

it's almost like everyone saw it coming
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>>128104084
Yup. archive.org was the largest archiving site. It had video games, website, movie, film, music, etc.
Archive.is is next followed by waybackmachine
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>>128104000
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Can't you just use a VPN to ignore everything? Shit is like 35 for a years membership.
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>>128103813

Nigger the source in that is an anonymous guy speculating
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>>128104401
Yup and it's still there.
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>>128102396
Why don't I just kiss Comcast goodbye when regional monopolies are broken up? Oh yeah that's right, you're caught in a false dilemma and don't realize the entire issue is solved by expanding the market and giving customers choice.
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>>128104619
its still there but how long until it gets filtered by every ISP.

what about when its own ISP filters it? it will effectively cease to exist to the outside world
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>>128102594
>>128102396
>He doesn't know how to link

Shills like you deserve the rope
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>>128104768
Websites will start a PR nightmare, and start lawsuits.
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>>128104726
Pretty much this. Companies that leave the internet alone will win
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>>128102396
God, you faggots are so retarded. The problem is government enforced ISP monopolies, not a lack of laws regulating the internet.

Why do you think George Soros lobbied so hard for "net neutrality"? Use your brain instead of thinking with your dick.
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>>128103010
Yes, and it will take 8 years for Trump, too. :^)
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>Using any internet site other than Zombocom

Plebs
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>>128104768

Go with an independent ISP, they do exist
>>128104768
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>>128105358
but if archive.org's own ISP filters them, then nobody can ever reach them
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>>128105521
...What? Someone explain to this nigga how the internet works.
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>>128102396
It's not their ISP it's their cuck college/browser.
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>>128105612
ill explain to you nigga how the internet works.

if an ISP drops all packets destined to a machine on its own network, nobody will be able to access that website.

Because a packet must traverse a network to reach its destination if the network being traversed drops every packet to that destination then no packet will ever reach the destination

period.
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It's absolutely nothing
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>just tried going to archive.org
>doesn't load

I..uh...This is a weird feeling. I don't think I like this.
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>>128102783
>A bill thats been on the books since Obama was in office, is suddenly Trumps fault because it was passed 5 months into his first term.

Are you retarded leaf?
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>>128106329
Guess it's time to packet in.
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>>128103525
wrong attitude, blackholing sites is a digital book burning and comcast must be painted as nu-aol and destroyed
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https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/06/to-kill-net-neutrality-rules-fcc-says-broadband-isnt-telecommunications/

It's fine guys, Pai said he has nothing against net neutrality.
....He just has a problem with it being applied to most internet connections in the US!
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>>128102600
Pretty fucking miniscule accomplishment
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archive.org knows their being filtered


https://twitter.com/internetarchive/status/870514798064058370
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>>>/g/60703104
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btw this outage is caused by a router reboot at archive,org. You alarmist faggots are almost as bad as the Paris Agreement faggots.

https://twitter.com/internetarchive
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>>128102396
Why archive.org?
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>>128106968
>Current issue with some not being able to connect isn't related to the earlier reboot. Site is up. Seems primarily to affect Comcast users.
Totally.
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>>128102921

learn icmp retard, not all gateways have it enabled due to ddos risk
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feels good not to be an american
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>>128102997
>being so weak-willed you need a third-party to step in and free you of your addictions
You are a stain on the human race, you are the dirt trampled on by men.
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>>128107062
Yeah I'm sure there is no relation between reloading your routers and service provider not routing traffic to you properly.
>believing some twitter intern
Use some common sense.
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>>128103865

"Truth" the post. TOo bad white men are fat and cowardly. I think secretly white men just love being cucked by other men...Jews, blacks, browns it doesn't matter.
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>>128104011
I see it too
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Lol it's something broken in their network, they're not blocking anything because of net neutrality

Archive.org says it's a technical issue and they're working with service providers to fix it.
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>>128107394
> they're not blocking anything because of net neutrality

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/06/to-kill-net-neutrality-rules-fcc-says-broadband-isnt-telecommunications/
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/06/to-kill-net-neutrality-rules-fcc-says-broadband-isnt-telecommunications/
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/06/to-kill-net-neutrality-rules-fcc-says-broadband-isnt-telecommunications/
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>>128102594
>newfag shilling muh (((net neutrality)))
Woah, surprise surprise.
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>>128107494
>here's a nerdsjw site saying that getting rid of net neutrality is evil

Try to stay on topic
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>>128107216
Wow, I can visit it also. Comcast has sucked for years.
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>>128102396
On spectrum, not working for me either. Although I can just use my 4g data to go on it. But yeah this sucks.
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>>128106608
>Guess it's time to packet in.
This filtering has me hop-ping mad.
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>>128107394
You're wrong https://twitter.com/internetarchive/status/870521701024452608
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>>128106608
Ayyyyy
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>>128102921
>>128103223
>DUDE MY TRACEROUTE DIDN'T WORK
icmp packets get filtered all the fucking time moron
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>>128104011
Holy shit you're right
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>>128102396
>Archive.org
Good. Fuck their captchas and fuck this captcha!
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>>128107658
im on spectrum, it's working for me
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>>128106608
>>128107722
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>>128102396
Good. We can tell whats important from what they want hidden
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>>128107622
You're a fucking imbecile.
Net neutrality is the only fucking legal mechanism that stands between broadband companies and doing this fucking shit, and it's what people have been shrieking about from the beginning.
But no, you're just some slack-jawed imbecile who'll fucking thump his chest and scream
>MUH FREE MARKET!
While a fucking OBAMA appointee sets the American isp industry back another 5 fucking years, because it's not already grotesquely worse than the rest of the first world's connectivity.
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>>128107943
Must be something on their end. Did you used to be on brighthouse by any chance?
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HOLY SHIT!

Comcast is still a thing?!!
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>>128108070
If you don't like the free market then move to China, you commie fuck
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>>128108070
You're flipping out like a carbon credit merchant over an unintentional error in comcast's network because the tv told you the sky is falling.
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America was behind the entire world on internet censorship anyway.
It's time to finally adopt the superior orwellian ways.
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>>128107802
only the web traffic is getting filtered as well. read the /g/ thread posted above dumb jappo
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>>128102396
>If you have Comcast internet you can no longer access Archive.org

FUCK. I was trying to get on this morning and it was fucked!
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you idiots didn't even think to check their twitter
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>>128108182
Not an argument.
You're just wiggling your sausage Canadian fingers at the idea of american isp's blocking this fucking hellhole and you cunts being able to post with fewer people leaf posting.
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>>128108413
its only a matter of time until they realize their IP is being filtered.
>>>/g/60704376
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good, so all you niggers can stop sucking comcast cock now, cancel your service, sign up with an isp that doesn't block it, WOW THE FREE MARKET WORKS
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>>128108102
no
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>>128108298
It's the target. Archive.org is not an insignificant website. It's a resource for public domain content that doesn't blow your asshole out with ads and popups, and large corporations with similar sites that DO blow your asshole out with ads and popups fucking hate it.
They hate this fucking joint too. Hopefully events don't proceed down this path, and you'll never figure out just how badly this will fuck up America's internet industries.
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>>128102594
The top of that thread are anons talking about how they bypassed it using a vpn or googles dns you fuck
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>>128108523
> not realizing that the internet is held together by string and chewing gum
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>>128108070
>Net neutrality is the only fucking legal mechanism that stands between broadband companies and doing this fucking shit
We didn't need federal regulation to maintain neutral treatment of data, sites, and services for the ~30 years the internet was running before the FCC regulatory rules. Network neutrality didn't *suddenly* come into existence in 2015, it's been the de facto standard since the beginning.

If Comcast decides to cross that standard, it does so at its own peril. This isn't the 90s where every city only had access to a single ISP - low-speed startups, satellite internet, and mobile internet have become commonplace. I live in a city of less than 10K people and I can choose between a cable internet provider, two DSL providers, a satellite provider, and three mobile providers. If you don't give people the service they want, they'll go to someone else who will - that's the free market, baby.
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>>128108529
I guess im calling AT&T tomorrow
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>>128102594
Huh huh, whoops guyz I accidently pressed on the wrong board AGAIN I'm so clumsy amirite? XD
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>>128104726
But for most people there is no choice because the sole ISP owns the cables and the buy in cost to lay youro wn is too great.
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>>128103223
>your private ip is only completed hop
How are we supposed to tell comcast was the next hop here and that you're not just a faggot? If they were blocking archive.org via dns, you wouldn't have resolved the ip for it or could just use a non comcast dns.
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>>128108722
you dumb fuck.

thats proving that comcast is filtering the traffic.

vps tunnel your traffic to a different isp so shit cant be filtered
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>>128108812
That might have been true ten years ago, but it's not true today. Most communities have at least a couple of alternate providers - they may be more expensive or lower speed, but they are alternatives. Bare minimum you can get a smart phone and access the internet through any one of a dozen mobile providers.
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>>128108720
Even if comcast is for some reason blocking a website (not charging for traffic like you retards thought would happen) Then just go to another ISP. I'm on verizon and I can access it fine.
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>>128108812
They all have to share the same infrastructure anyway. There's only 6 companies that own the backbone and soon to be 5 as two are joining this year. This is likely yet another general comcast outage fuckup. They happen near daily. Usually they're doing maintenance and forget redundancy measures, sometimes a chink injects bgp as numbers that already existed fucking up routing tables for the whole internet, you dumb faggots have no idea how this shit actually works or what it takes to keep it going. The entire premise of comcast blocking it via dns is clearly false as the images being posted resolve the name to an ip.
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>>128108961
Prove they're dropping it. I work for a non comcast isp that we sometimes partner with, deal with hosting companies, zero calls tonight for anything regarding packet loss or inability to reach specific sites.
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Hows charter/spectrum lads? Heard they were pretty based from a friend. Want to get off the comcast ride.
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>>128109809
>I work for a non comcast isp that we sometimes partner with, deal with hosting companies, zero calls tonight for anything regarding packet loss or inability to reach specific sites.
if you dont work for comcast or for archive.org then you arent affected by this
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>>128103223
>>128103525
>>128103659
Why don't you guys call Comcast and complain? Threaten to switch ISPs and you'll be fine.
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>>128109275
There's a single digit number of ISP's in any fucking area. Good luck, when they're all fucking doing it.
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>>128106329
>thinks each website has an ISP
>claims to know how the internet works
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>>128108796
No one gave a shit what a bunch of ultima online playing nerds discussed on SA, faggot. Game has changed.
The problem is the risk in these cunts getting together and agreeing to shit on their own service at the same time.
There is also another factor, you may live in some degenerate urban center, but not everyone has those options. I have some yank friends in rural areas who can't get good internet because barely a single ISP reaches them, if you don't wanna go satellite with a data cap, that is.

ISPs and communication companies are invariably and independently from geography, assholes, and you wanna trust them with this shit, yeah no. The free market doesn't protect you when you basically rape the laws of the market by not competing.
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>>128108961
>vps tunnel your traffic to a different isp so shit cant be filtered
Wew lad. If they really wanted to filter your shit to archive.org, they'd block ipsec tunnels from non ipsec paying customers too. Your screenshot resolved the ip for archive.org, if they were preventing dns lookup of it, you wouldn't have resolved that ip. Add the ip to your host file and see if it works then.
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>>128102396
trump is a monster
the mark of the beast that is capitalism
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>>128110020
many people did in the /g/ thread
>>>/g/60703594
>>>/g/60703604
>>>/g/60703698
>>>/g/60703780
>>>/g/60703807
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>>128102396
I'm on Archive.org right now, bitch
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>>128108745
ok netfag here. checking on comcast's route server, the netblock is announced as a /20 which comcast is seeing
BGP routing table entry for 207.241.224.0/20, version 731781397
Paths: (7 available, best #7, table Default-IP-Routing-Table)
Advertised to update-groups:
1
11404 7941
68.86.1.83 (metric 79751) from 68.86.80.25 (68.86.1.25)
Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 300, valid, internal
Community: 7922:83 7922:2900 65100:174 65100:577 65100:701 65100:1239 65100:1299 65100:1668 65100:3320 65100:3356 65100:3549 65100:5400 65100:6453 65100:6762 65100:7018 65100:20115 65100:22773
Originator: 68.86.1.83, Cluster list: 68.86.1.25, 68.86.1.10

however the IP that the webserver is on .2 has a more specific route advertised
route-server.newyork.ny.ibone>show ip bgp 207.241.224.2
BGP routing table entry for 207.241.224.2/32, version 746843277
Paths: (7 available, best #3, table Default-IP-Routing-Table, not advertised to EBGP peer)
Advertised to update-groups:
1
64650
68.86.80.17 (metric 74331) from 68.86.80.17 (68.86.1.17)
Origin incomplete, metric 0, localpref 100, valid, internal
Community: 64650:50001 no-export

AS64650 is in the reserved private AS space which means each isp can use it for whatever they like. this means that 1 IP within the netblock is essentially "null routed" which means no comcast traffic gets to archive.org. this is a common response to abuse like DDoS.

also note that on the /20 route Comcast is going via AS11404 for every route. this is an ISP called Spectrum Networks. this means:
(a) peering between Comcast and Spectrum is healthy
(b) the archive netblock is being accepted
(c) the IP of the archive main web server/loadbalancer is being null routed

this indicates that Comcast has responded to some kind of abuse problem on their network, likely automatically, and there is no peering dispute between Comcast and Archive.

This is likely to be resolved soon.
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>>128110067
how will you get internet with an internet provider?
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>>128110067
how will you get internet without an internet provider?
(inb4 stealing the neighbors)
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>>128109950
You're a moron who has no idea how the internet backbone is structured. I have customers who do use comcast as their end carrier and do reach things like archive.org, none are complaining.
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>>128110217
Its just internet. People used to be way more productive when it wasn't around. Maybe you can read some books or take up an actual hobby
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>>128108102
I have spectrum, used to be brighthouse.

It doesn't work here as well.
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Comcast spent money lobbying the government so they could block a website that gives out old books for free? Okay. What else did they do?
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>>128110176
Ding ding ding. Tod you faggots. >>128109611
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https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/05/how-to-build-your-own-vpn-if-youre-rightfully-wary-of-commercial-options/
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>>128110156
>internet chat support
Actually call them and have them transfer you to a manager. Tell them if they don't fix it you will be canceling your subscription and moving to an ISP that doesn't have the problem.
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>>128102396
Good, you have to your purchasing power as an endorsement of the businesses your support. You can't throw away money and protest for faggotry now. You have to understand something. I fucking love it.
God bless Trump and god bless you, minor shill.
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>>128110176
Im wondering how your claiming to be "checking on comcasts route serve" using obvioudly cisco hardware syntax.

either you work for comast or this is seemingly fake
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>>128110063
That would cost them money. A competitor will enter the market.
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>>128110519
How are you going to control what the end node does on "your" vpn? You're trusting the other end with all your data just like your isp without one. It's also not hard to deny ipsec protocol from specific addresses, like residential end users, without also blocking government ipsec tunnels.
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Wtf it won't load. I use spectrum.
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FYI
>>>/g/60703104

is how you link to other boards
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>>128110243
well plenty of people here are:
>>>/g/60703104
maybe nobody likes talking to you or your friends
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>>128102396
Just kill your kids and then yourself.
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>>128110678
>comcast doesn't have any cisco hardware in their backbone
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>>128110791
then its obviously fake.
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>>128110774
It sure seems like end user residential faggots are complaining. You know, people like you who resolve a dns request and have hops fail and assume that means the ebil isp is filtering them.
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>>128110678
if you dont know what a route server is perhaps you shouldn't be telling me that i don't know what a route server is

shut the fuck up while adults are speaking
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>>128110946
Get a load of this faggot who doesn't know how greentext works.
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>>128110092
>The problem is the risk in these cunts getting together and agreeing to shit on their own service at the same time.
Violation of anti-trust laws (something that IS under the purview of the federal government to oversee and regulate, unlike the FCC rules), FTC would slap the shit out of them.
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>>128102396
good work /pol/acks
just keep in mind this site will be on their list of things to block :^)
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We China now cause y'all are fucking faggots and fucking retards. Fuck drumfp.
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>>128104000
Very different site retard.
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>>128110951
Reapeatedly, and consistently, at the same time, all of a sudden?

>>128111057
You guys seem to put a lot of trust on the FTC and other bodies like that. What makes them so incorruptible? legit question.
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>>128111310
>What makes them so incorruptible?
Nothing.
The only thing that's illegal is getting such collusion in writing. They'll do what they want and the lolbertarians will cheer them on as a sledge hammer is taken to the very infrastructure that lets them post their retarded comments.
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>>128102396
Great another fat ass liberal coming to /pol/ to complain. Fuck Off.
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>>128104000

Based trips
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>>128111310
Yes, repeatedly and suddenly, that's how outages work "white" Argentinian. From other annon's post from the route server, assuming it's true, they did indeed likely respond to abuse like a ddos or other flooding attack which is why the peering and advertising is healthy, but it's being null routed to comcast private as. If they were blocking dns as chicken little fags are claiming, the host name wouldn't resolve an ip.
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>>128111596
an outage.. for a single address, over an extended period of time, coming from a single company. You really need to check that thread, my 60% white brother
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>>128111310
Nothing, there's no guarantees, *but* FTC has a pretty damn good track record with shit like this - breaking up monopolies, exposing frauds and price-fixing, protecting consumers, etc. They're one of the few federal regulatory commissions that not only serves a valid function, but generally does a good job of it.
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>>128102396
spectrum/TWC here
archive.org won't load
meh.
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>>128111758
You don't know if it's a single address only, now do you? And if it was an attempted ddos to archive.org using comcast as the intermediary infrastructure to begin from, yes it would only effect one address.
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>>128111795
>>128111424
Thanks

>>128111905
How likely, please stop embarrassing yourself
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>>128111859
yeah same here lol
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>>128111758
>60%

*56% you fucking beaner
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>>128111596
the reason they inject a route to a private AS is to propagate it to all of their routers so they all know to just drop the traffic. that way, any traffic to the null routed IP gets dropped at the first BGP router it hits, not wasting any of their backbone's bandwidth.

they probably have a good reason for it, it is probably abuse related, potentially some kind of botnet ddos or whatever. this kind of blocking is not new and has nothing to do with net neutrality.

go to sleep.
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THE FUCK IS THIS

traceroute archive.org
traceroute to archive.org (207.241.224.2), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 my_home_IP) 1.555 ms 2.631 ms 3.697 ms
2 NOT SHOWING YOU 16.729 ms 16.733 ms 16.707 ms
3 NO INFO 4u 16.690 ms 17.909 ms 17.863 ms
4 agg21.ontrcacp01r.socal.rr.com (72.129.6.118) 21.532 ms 21.526 ms 21.496 ms
5 agg21.lsancarc01r.socal.rr.com (72.129.5.0) 22.530 ms 22.777 ms 22.766 ms
6 bu-ether26.lsancarc0yw-bcr00.tbone.rr.com (66.109.3.230) 26.192 ms 23.348 ms 23.172 ms
7 0.ae0.pr1.lax00.tbone.rr.com (107.14.17.248) 15.905 ms ae2.lsancarc0yw-bpr01.tbone.rr.com (66.109.1.41) 23.817 ms 0.ae1.pr1.lax00.tbone.rr.com (107.14.17.250) 15.528 ms
8 be-203-pe01.losangeles.ca.ibone.comcast.net (50.248.118.177) 15.524 ms 15.465 ms 19.865 ms
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I don't even use comcast but it looks like TWC uses the same routing server.
Gonna get an angry phone call from me right now. I'll give them 1 hour to get it back up before I call
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>>128111758
What's more likely, comcast pushes config changes to every end user modem to block only archive.org, or does it in the core to block anyone using their infrastructure from getting there? Because the "evidence" posted in screenshots would be the former and the latter would mean no one going through comcast backbone would get there if anything nefarious was going on. I garauntee non comcast customers use their backbone too.
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>americans will soon be restricted to a small corner of the censored internet
>even when paying extra for "full" access, they won't know what is and isn't blocked or restricted
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>>128112148
I never said it had anything to do with net neutrality and I'm saying it's likely an auto abuse response based on what you posted.
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>>128102396
It's not in affect yet, shit-eating retard.

sage this faggot op
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>>128111986
So ddos attacks never happen?
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>>128110543
>implying there's any other ISPs in the area that aren't fucking dial up or satellite

american telecoms companies are the goddamn worst
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>>128112167
That just means you're going through comcast infrastructure after tw, instead of being an angry bitch, give them the ip of the last hop that completed, may help solve the issue. Besides, we already know you're close to socal.
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>>128102921
According to the thread OP linked it has something to do with the Ransomware shitstorm.
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Trump will be remembered as worse than Nixon
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>>128112671
well I tried:

nslookup archive.org
Server: 192.168.1.1
Address: 192.168.1.1#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: archive.org
Address: 207.241.224.2

ping 207.241.224.2
PING 207.241.224.2 (207.241.224.2) 56(84) bytes of data.
^C
--- 207.241.224.2 ping statistics ---
135 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 135777ms


Guess I'm gonna call them and nark on comcast. maybe comcast will lose TWC support stop using their infrastructure and the free market will finally take care of comcast
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>>128107494
really? That has some interesting consequences for actions committed using a telecommunication device. Hack on brothers and sisters. Feds just gave some folks a free pass. ;-)
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>>128112883
There's going to be a huge telecom shakeup soon. They're all being mismanaged. Don't get me wrong, these companies are run like shit and primarily care about keeping their stock dividend secure, but I'm not seeing any proof of nefarious activity here. Comcast is really slow to respond to any outage and if this is indeed just an abuse attempt that was blocked or similar, it's likely no one has caught on yet. I'm pretty sure the online chat for comcast is bots or pajeets that never leave script anyway, no one would ever get anything out off them. I had them try to charge me a termination fee 3 months in a row when I'd specifically ordered disconnection on the date it would no longer apply. Now I do know comcast will break your encryption wherever possible as I received a cease and desist over content that was encrypted before leaving my host when under them.
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>>128102396
'Net Neutrality' is just a pathway for government controlled internet you idiot.
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>>128110716
same, some weird shit is going down.
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>>128113280
>Now I do know comcast will break your encryption
not possible
unless you were using a shit algorithm or you had a insecure connection
What did you use to encrypt and was it encrypted end - to - end?
as in if it was over SSL where the body is all encrypted? You may even want to invest in a VPN too which encrypts the headers
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>>128113633
The only thing they'd have known is that I was using a tor client if you can trust it. It's entirely possible they were a seed in the torrent it was for as companies will do that from time to time to honeypot. It was odd, they never gave a shit about 20 year old games, but new porn? Cease now. I suppose the producer of the content could have been a seed too, great way to catch people torrenting your ip.
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I'm also seeing a trace failure from legacy qwest edge as a last hop, their edge labeled devices are direct internet after that point so it was trying to hit another company's backbone to continue, or there's a routing issue somewhere. Trace died in Omaha which is very sparse for comcast owned territory.
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>>128113887
well for one TOR red flags you so don't use it unless you're in danger and need to speak about something
I can't give source on that

However since you accessed TOR they were probably already watching you and they probably recognized some data from the torrent (like file names or users being connected to your IP) or pulled a list of users connected to the torrent and then sent the C&D letter
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>>128113492
The shills are real
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>>128110686
>Entering the market with all the regulations they've lobbied for.
Even google couldn't get in.
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>>128102594
nice link newfag

go back to buzzfeed you turdsucker
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>>128102997
Government controlled media doesn't end with censorship, just look at radio and tele...oops
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>>128114148
Which is why I went back to ctl, cheaper and they don't seem to give a shit what you do with the connection as long as it's not affecting them.
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>>128110543
>moving to an ISP that doesn't have the problem
Most people don't have another option.
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i wish they would have chose a site like FurAffinity those degenerate dog fuckers need to die
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>>128102396
>Poo in loo is appointed chairman of FCC by Obama
>Trump's fault
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>>128114549
When I was in college they blocked HF, paheal, and a bunch of other Western sites but they left the furry stuff untouched.
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>>128111493
*dat flag*
>sheep fuckers are now policing USA politics
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>>128112167
I'll tell you right now they'll tell you to fuck right off with that trace, its off tbone.rr, hops aren't on the tw network.
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>>128114649
well then i guess the college staff was infiltrated by furries
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>>128102662
Knee slapper.' Underrated post
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>>128102396
I'm not poor so why do i give a fuck again?
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>>128102600
r u dinduing already
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>>128102396
but now you will have the freedom to pay comcast more money...
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>>128104726
This. We need to focus on increasing competition and choices. Not on daddy govt imposing regulation.
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>>128106577
Trump's FCC chair just declared war on Obama's net neutrality rules
https://www.vox.com/new-money/2017/4/26/15436104/network-neutrality-ajit-pai
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>>128115216
Always remember to archive. Thank you.
>https://vox com/new-money/2017/4/26/15436104/network-neutrality-ajit-pai
--> https://archive.is/qQnKI

Wayne Lambright is a schizophrenic homosexual transient.
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>>128115048
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>>128113492
Net Neutrality is what we voluntarily HAD in the USA up until 3 or 4 years ago when the ISPs began to say they wanted to drop it. That's when the gov stepped in and made NN telecom rules.


The Internet as we (USA) know it*, was developed under Net Neutrality.
*and probably most of the World also since virtually all data passes through USA lines
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>>128105521
That's always been an issue...an ISP can refuse you service, thats always been the case. So if nobody wanted to give their servers ISP access that could have happened before.
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>>128102396
Why does Trump hate freedom and dissent so much?
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>>128115353
because niggers and white people who support niggers don't deserve freedom
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>>128102594
>>128102396
>Shareblue shill advocating censorship crying about "muh net neutality"
Oh the irony.
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>>128114870
RR is TW i believe
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>>128115483
Honestly, I think it's because he's scared of being busted for misdeeds and then being impeached and imprisoned. Look at all the shadiness around the Russian connections. Even Kushner is involved. Don't you think this is his massive motivating fear?
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>net neuterality shills dont realize they also support the DMCA by the same logic
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>>128102396
>Net Neutrality is now officially dead

good. it's useless

just wait and see once you get over your autism that things change, it'll be all right

internet did fine before net neutrality
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>>128115566
What's it stand for? Could be a competitor they bought. Much like how Centurylink, at&t, and frontier don't change host names just because they bought someone.
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my question is can i be put in jail for watching porn on pornhub now that net neutrality is dead?
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I do hope the people here who're against net neutrality are just LARPing, because I don't think I could take that much retardation.
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>>128102396
OP you are a fucking retard Global warming and climate change are the same thing and not real. If you want to use archive.org learn to use a fucking proxy you ignorant Hillary supporting cuck
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>>128115621
>Don't you think this is his massive motivating fear?
well he is pissing off a lot of elite globalist lately
i think if he was to be afraid of anything it would be them
he is cutting off all their slush funds like nothing... ie " green climate fund "

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/16/editorial-fun-with-the-green-climate-fund/
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>>128102396
Good thing I use http://archive.is/
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>>128102396
(((Capitalism))) in action.
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>>128115929
if you want to know why the elites hate him get woke mothafuckers

https://www.quora.com/Is-there-physical-scientific-proof-that-Jews-were-gassed-to-death-in-Nazi-concentration-camps/answer/Damian-Graves
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>>128115877
They are americans
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Just switch service providers and let them know why. If enough people do it them and other companies won't change shit. They want money make them earn it.
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>>128114548
Therein lies the entire problem; all of it. There is no competition, that market is a government condoned oligopoly.
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>>128115621
>MUH RUSSIA!
if you scream it long and loud enough, some dumbasses might start to believe you.
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I don't even use archive.org though

at the first opportunity I'd torch the comcast hq though
fuck those bastards
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>>128116197
shut you faggoty ass up Ivan you don't know shit go back to the global warming thread and shill you normie fag
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im not sure if its true but ive heard friends told me that on cox its alot slower today then it was yesterday.
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>>128108529
>literally only other option is centurylink
yeah fuck that
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>>128116189
they only care about money
and he is fuck with their money
that's all it even been about and always will be about
rich vs poor
all this other shit is just smoke and mirrors
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comcast is only a business and you can kill the faggots in charge of it. easy peasy
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>>128107658
This is the second shill post I've read where someone claims it doesn't work on Spectrum when it clearly does.
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>>128102396
Thank u mr drumpf
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>>128115353
if they wanted to shut down freedom and dissent they would kill 4chan first
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>>128102396
lol you're a legit retard, and even if they were just open it in TOR you stupid fuck
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>>128116312
>and shill you normie fag
>Redditor calls someone a normie
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>>128116727
>just open it in tor
>he's not outraged that a company is trying to limit what websites he can access
You are a cuck.
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>>128116812
I'd believe comcast blocking some random site because it doesn't make them money, but I want to see proof first
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>>128116812
Please show me where Comcast is actually filtering archive.org (lol.) OP and you are both fagets as you've offered no proof this is happening (and isn't just a bug) and that it somehow links to NN being killed
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>>128116964
Just read the /g/ thread
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>>128116744
I have never used Reddit you sack a monkey shit obviously you are well versed in it though go back and hang with the SJW fags or go to leftypol with your commie comrades you homo
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>>128117301
>I have never used Reddit
>unironical trump-supporter
>not redditor
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>>128117240
Honestly /g/ are 90% stupid LARPers that get in a tizzy over nothingburgers all the time. They are worse than newfags on /pol/. What would even be the purpose of blocking archive.org? It makes no sense. This is just /g/ newfags panicking over nothing and people who aren't retarded are fanning the flames to keep them going because it's funny. In fact, one person already figured out Comcast isn't even blocking the domain but rather the specific IP the domain is resolving to. So this is likely a bug, or an accident but if Comcast comes out tomorrow and says "lol yeah we blocked an irrelevant site for no discernible reason" I'll be unpleasantly surprised and bow to the standard bearers of logic and collected thinking that is the brain trust at /g/
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>>128110716
>>128113551
Oh you guys are on the Spectrum, alright.
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Webcite.com is also blocked.

Source: I work for Comcast and have been adding sites. Dont fuck with our ad revenue, you fucking betas.
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>>128117652
>Russian shill
>normiefag
>keeps saying reddit
>Russian talking about Trump because he is a gangsta while being ruled by a despot

get rekt faggot
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>>128102396
buhuhuhuhuhu climate change....

well dont u think it would NOW be a great
time to invent new tech to replace bad energy sources ?
or are u busy crying ?

so stop crying and build something for ur kids and stop waiting for others to do that... if we all gonna die of climate change ;)
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>>128117984
>muslim attempts to speak english
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>>128118105
I lol'd
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>>128110716

I'm on Spectrum. It loads fine.
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>>128118356
gender is a spectrum
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>>128103010
Yep. 8 years of decent leadership was too much for you retards. You want to burn your own houses down, can't do that when there are adults in the room.
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>>128118625
lolz @ moron saying decent leadership. Just because you and the press were asleep and not paying attention to what was happening didnt mean nothing was shit for brains
https://www.stpete4peace.org/obama-fact-sheet
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>>128102396
Who cares? The internet should be controlled by the government anyway. Stop with MUH FREEDUMZ meme.

If we don't give up our freedom so our gov't can be effective, we will be taken over by a more effective society (ie. Islam).
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>>128104401
Oh the truth comes out. I hope you all literally rot in fucking hell. MAGA
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>>128102396

>>If you are a Comcast customer you've just kissed Archive.org goodbye


That's not how this works.
That's not how any of this works.
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Trump is a massive shitbag.
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>>128119050
Oh is he preventing you from pirating now?
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>>128119078
>archive.org
>pirating
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>>128119115
Well that's not what that person just said.

Movies, music, etc. That's all I needed to hear.

Archive my ass.
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>>128119078
>thinks archive.org is a website for piracy

Are all trump supporters this stupid and helpless?
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>>128119228
Then why is everyone saying movies, music, etc?
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>>128110716
Works fine for me.
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>reddit outs themselves by shilling for net neutrality again
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>>128117977
>somebody talks how retarted orange monnkey
>must be shill
>while being ruled by a despot
Nah, we are just like you ruled by Oligarchs
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>>128119156
Public domain, copyright expired, etc
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>>128102396
>mfw i was going to switch to them
welp
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>>128119345
Yeah fucking right. Everybody's there downloading Birth of A Nation

Rot in fucking hell. This is just the beginning I promise you.
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>>128119345
Fuck off. Thinking you can get public domain things for free. Faggot commie. MAGA
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>>128119411
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>>128119436
They're lying. Year everybody there dowoading the bible and Mozart. Fucking lies.
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>>128105041
what does this image prove?
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>Inb4 Trumpets defend this
>Inb4 Trumpets defend this
>Inb4 Trumpets defend this
>Inb4 Trumpets defend this
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>>128119517
All the things I've ever downloaded on archive have been put there by the creator. I don't doubt that there is some 'piracy' going on there, but I also don't want the government to step in. You're just as bad as the commies, you statist faggot.
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>>128119645
>net neutrality is GREAT!
>Obama praised me for my support!!!
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>>128119645
I wonder what else is there. Let's see what's the history of 4chan? I bet all the "movies" there are perfectly legal regarding the images. Everybody here's a fuckin saint right? Rot in fucking hell.
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I spent 2 years on dsl just to stay away from comcast. And I had a $300 brand new cable modem sitting in my closet the whole time.

Don't use comcast. Trump is still a fucking idiot for gutting net neutrality.
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>>128119693
Yeah and that's also what Soulseek was literally created for you fucking faggot. This is just the beginning I promise you. Watch.
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It's ridiculous to me that you faggots want to abolish net neutrality. Why does paying 200 dollarr extra for your subscription just so can watch Youtube sound good to you?§
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>>128119693
Government and corporate control both suck as they both fuck you over.I wish there was a way to have the internet open in free without those fucker controlling everything.
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>>128120283
>>128119645
Woops
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>>128120283
Only government is (in most western countries, not in USA) responsible to its people and under democratic oversight.
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>>128117848
/g/'s quality has been going downhill for a few years. It's almost nothing but /v/ and consumerism threads now. Barely any real discussion of TECHNOLOGY.
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>>128120283
People eventually get as much freedom as they can handle. None.
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>>128105176
>government enforced ISP monopolies
The problem is Republicans use the law to kill competition. Remember Texas banning Tesla from selling cars in their state because it competed with dealerships?
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>>128119925
>>128120357
Why do you use a Malta proxy?
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>>128107522
Can someone explain to me how net neutrality is jewish?
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>>128120409
>The problem is Republicans use the law to kill competition
As well as Democrats. They both do it.
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>>128120385
I mean, there must be some way to do it?Could there?
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>>128120529
No, people can't handle it. People cannot handle freedom so it's going to be taken away.
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>>128120428
but I'm not.

Enjoy having to pay ridiculous prices due to corporations getting way more power than they should have with regards to one of most important places for freedom of speech and expression.

All because "lol lefitst archive org good riddance"
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>>128120625
Well fuck, how the hell would you make it to where the government has control of it, but doesn't fuck with it (NSA,intelligence agencies, throttling, etc).
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>>128120927
You tie them up and hold a gun to their head like the good lord intended.
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>>128102396
Well shit,
1. Anyone recommend a good VPN?
2. What does this have to do with Trump?
3. I can't find anything about this in the news, even Google just shows 4chan results when you search this topic.
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Why did you guys support such a jew pol?
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>>128106608
You have to go back
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>>128102594
"Guys" - all you leftist cucks sound the same
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>>128120447
don't expect anything from /pol/
most people here are edgy teenagers and/or unironically retarded

they are a bit like turks though, they love authoritarian figures that tell them what to think
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>>128103525
They can block vpns from working m8
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>>128121205
>What does this have to do with Trump?
Repubs are letting through some legislation allowing this kind of thing to happen, along with allowing them to view/track/sell your internets usage

Libs are fags but they have good ideas when it comes to privacy
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>>128111129
who is she? sauce
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>>128111859
>spectrum/TWC here
Same. Works for me
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>>128102396
How about changing your provider, statist pig? Or do you need a nanny to do that for you as well? Or you just don't know how to proxy and VPN?
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>>128121480
I'd still love to hear how /pol/ can explain unmolested internet as a jewish plot. I'm entertained by mental gymnastics.
>>128121765
Not as easy as you'd think in the US. In most areas, one company enjoys a monopoly so you either pick them, satellite, or dial-up.
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>>128107777
Stupid faggot, you proved yourself wrong
This whole thread is bullshit
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>>128121765
dont cause a blue screen of death in his head...
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>>128104011
Full pic looks even worse.
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Good morning! I just woke up, this is my first post of the day and it reads as follows:

"GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW"
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>>128102396
I really hate all these faggy "educated" liberals. It is them making a big deal over a technical issue. Their "education" spans only cuckology, therefore of course they wouldn't have any idea about this and freak out. And then when it is fixed, they will pay themselves on the back believing that crying on Twitter got the big bad ISP to back down or some shit. Delusion knows no bounds.
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>>128121765
>implying all companies aren't in a circle jerk together
So far, the only good provider of internet access is Tmobile, and they're a fucking cell phone company.
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>>128116262
I thought semites were the problem
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>>128122153
Jew are the problem, as they run the damn places.
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I can't wait till a telecomms company blocks 4chan or /pol/ specifically because of how family unfriendly it is and you 'net neutrality hurr duur useless' retards can't shitpost here anymore.
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>>128122674
>you can't post anymore either
Face it anon, you and I would go fucking nuts without it.Unless we all became body builders and got a life, which I doubt.
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>>128114169
>Hurr I hate all the regulations the government has
>Lets add more durr
Retard
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Post yfw murricans are getting blocked from 4chan.
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>>128104726
>haha just change companies
>haha just vote
>haha just affect change
Stop. You cant change shit.
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Remember, kids: it's not a censorship when a corporation does it.
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