HOOOLY SHIT Ted just ROASTED the fuck out of Elon Musk

>>128100744
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/02/15/tesla-ceo-musk-used-private-jet-12-times-to-lobby-washington-for/

>Musk flew to Washington D.C. at least a dozen times since early 2009 to help make the case to the Department of Energy for nearly half a billion dollars in low interest loans as part of the Advanced Technology Vehicle Manufacturing program. Without the loan money, it seems unlikely that Tesla would have remained solvent long enough to bring the Model S to fruition. Anything that benefits a company, benefits its shareholders – in this case the biggest beneficiary (who owns 38.8 percent of the company's shares) of Tesla's success will, of course, be Musk himself.

Pussymusk rekt

Cruz should have been VP

>>128100744
wtf i'm a cruz missile now

>>128100744
>>128101055
Nice. That shit is annoying. DiCaprio had one of the biggest yachts. Al Gore sold his TV station to oil rich Qataris.

>>128101484
This. Pence is so boring to listen to.

>>128100744

OH SHIT

EL RATO HAS SOME TEETH.

Jesus christ I hate Ted Cruz but whatever intern tweeted that makes him look decent.

>>128102113
Pence making his wife and daughter where a muslim shit rag was the last straw for me.

>>128100744
Best redemption arc ever.

Cruz missile has made impact

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>>128100744

Oy vey, the goyim aren't going to buy my meme cars because no more gov subsidies, this is like annuda shoah! I quit fuck drumpf!

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heh...nothing personnel, kid

Well obviously this man needs to keep the hype up because he sells electric cars. That run on... mostly coal

>>128100744
>>128101055

Glad people are realizing now Elon Musk is a fucking fag

Self driving cars would put millions out of work too

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>>128102359
I didn't like Cruz either until I actually watched the debates he was in. Guy is sharp.

>>128102308
LMAO!

>>128100744

wtf I'm a Cruz missile now?

>>128102308
Really gnaws my noodle.

>>128102359

i think u r a smart guy, no joke or sarcams

>>128102421
It's called having respect you dumb nigger. Trump even critisized Obamas wife for not wearing a hijab when she went to Saudi Arabia a couple years ago on his twitter.

>>128102656
He made (((Sanders))) look like a total buffoon.

>>128100744

> implying its individual actions that matter and not the sum total of society's collective decisions

It doesn't matter. The problem is not Elon Musk flying. It's everybody flying. Just price in the actual externality costs of flying through the use of a carbon tax.

Commercial air travel is probably the single most damaging action that an individual can take when it comes to CO2 emmisions. If we can price out 90% of the population from being able to engage in it, significant progress could be made in mitigating global warming.

>>128102629
>Self driving cars would put millions out of work too

They said the same thing when Henry Ford invented the car.

>>128102629
>Self driving cars would put millions out of work too

Times change. No one is crying for those losing jobs to Lyft or Uber. I, like many others, need a side hustle.

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Remember when Ted was the main villain? I kind of miss the Cruz saga. Now he's like the former bad guy who sometimes helps the hero

Annihilated

>>128103182
At that point they should just ban private air travel.

>>128100744
Ted Cruz is an anti-science idiot who appeals to even dumber conservatives.

Not an argument.

>Haha, you can't support climate change, you didn't put all your rubbish in the recycling bin

Ted screws Elon Musk

>>128102629
So fuckin what? We can't ignore progress because it'll put folks out of work. That would have killed America if we didn't start the industrial farming age for fear of farmers and peasants losing jobs.

If your only "skill" is driving a vehicle then you picked a shitty career and that's your fault. Agreed that Elon sucks though.

ted cruz is great. he just went too hard trying to be president instead of "settling" for VP

he took a risk and lost, and became a rat in doing so

>>128100744
Elon is so pussy-whipped it hurts.
How long until the gold digger dumps him and he can return to a form that at least mimics masculinity?

I hated Cruz until now. I think I have some respect for him now. Fuck Elon. I would have fired him regardless after his crybaby threat.

SKELEGETS RISING

>>128100744
My boy!

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>>128103295
I still can't stand him. He's got that rat snout and has the most punchable face in the world. He's also a total pussy. Im on the Trump train but if he said that shit about my family like he did Teds I would never support the man. But then again I don't look like a stereotypical Jew like Ted does with his rat about.

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>>128100744

for what its worth I believe David Gergen has finally gone senile

I want to like Ted but he's too much of a political whore for me to give in. Phoney is the word that comes to mind everytime I see him.

>>128102629
Using shovels instead of spoons to dig ditches puts millions out of work.

>>128101484
He fucked around and took potshots at the man.
You don't do that.

>>128103186
Proof? Or are you going to quote your great great great grandfather eskimo.

>>128101484
This. He would have pissed people off even more - plus he's better life insurance for Trump.

>>128103098
Well, it makes since for a right-wing christian to make his wife wear a hijab in a rapist infested country. Michelle Obama would tear a rapists arms off, so it all makes sense :)

>>128100744
Damn.. reincarnated Cruz is the best Cruz.

>>128100744
Cruz is a great shitposter

Not as good as don but damn good

>>128100744
It's always nice to see these delusional wealthy faggots called out.

Wealthy liberals want to doom the common man to a life of poverty in the name of boogeyman theories, all while leading lives completely in contradiction to everything they advocate that we do.

>>128102629
All jobs will be gone in 10 years due to automation anyway. There's going to be immense turmoil.

>>128104349
He's learning

>>128100744
Cruz stepped up his game since his defeat, goddamn

>>128100744
Now that Cruz isn't locked down by PC repercussions he seems pretty cool.

>when good motivations and greedy combine

On one hand, Elon is morally right to slightly protest. On the other hand, he owns solar city.

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decent banter

DAHNALD! TAKE THE DELEGATES

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>>128104720
Fugg, forgot my picture

>>128102629
I care way more about the government making it illegal to drive desu

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The private plane, Elon

>>128104569

Wew kid. That made me giggle. Ted bust fucking unbuckling and going to town. It's like he's been holding his breath until recently.

>>128102656
this. If he was handsome he might be president right now.

>>128105006

or not canadian

>>128103264
>side hustle
you listened to dem conservative radio talk show ads like on the mark l'ebin show

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>>128100744
Cruzposting is back on the menu, boys

>>128105155
>tfw Ted will never come and fix Canada

>>128103182
meh fuck taxes, just lower them on the more environmental friendly alternatives, I pay enough as it is

>>128103446
So you can safeguard against climate change but not gimp your economy by not utilizing coal then?

cruz is a fucking moron who got kicked to the curb by the mercers who own trump and yet he still chugs trumps limp dick

lol sad

He's been making Texas proud lately. Where the fuck was this guy during the primaries. Idk about VP but he should have a higher office in this administration.

It seems like he's trying to get back into President Trump's good graces. Wouldn't be surprised to see him taking somebody's place soon.

>>128100744
Oooh snap! Cruz is using his power to annoy people for the greater good.

>>128105503
He wants to keep himself distanced enough so he can be his own man in 2024, despite any baggage Trump might accumulate. It's a smart strategy.

>>128103590
The fuck we can. What good is progress when it means that you are not able to move freely and it kills far, far more livelihoods than it creates.

Fuck self driving cars and I will never let any government take my right to drive my own ass away.

>>128104903
This

Also, fuck electric cars. We don't have the battery technology to make electric vehicles viable for most of the transportation industry, AKA tractor-trailers.

As far as consumer vehicles go, I would drive an electric truck if it could tow my shit and get me a couple hundred miles before needing a recharge, but I don't see any electric 1/2 ton or higher pickups coming out in the next couple of years.

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>>128100744
did Elon reply?

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>>128100744
mr fagwagon btfo

>>128103098

Muslims don't deserve respect, and neither do leafs.

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>>128100744
Lion ted strikes again

>>128105230
It's that retarded Uber commercial, I see it at least once a day on CNN or FOX.

>>128103182
Its the fact that they fly PRIVATE. These people travel in the most wasteful way possible. They do it every day.

>>128100744
ELON BTFO

how will he recover in time before Amber Heard takes all his shekels?

>>128103295
Ted Cruz is Vegeta.

>>128103446
>worried about climate change
>not making any personal sacrifices to combat the destruction of our planet
How is this not an argument?

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>>128103098
Dudes don't wear hijabs

>>128105155
tru

This is not clever. Using fossil fuels in order to create an electric car company is not hypocritical. Do you think Hitler was hypocritical for wanting to breed blondes because he had dark hair?

>>128106285
he owns an electric car company and solar city

his companies have contributed to combating the destruction of our planet than all of the GOP combined

>hurrr dont fly on your plane tho bro

If Lyin' Ted had bowed out gracefully after Super Tuesday, he'd be the VP right now. Instead, he allowed himself to be co-opted by the nevertrumpers to force a brokered convention. Sad.

holy shit... never thought I'd see the day where Elon Musk would get absolutely BTFO by Ted Cruz

>>128106075

And? Even one person's plane is still a drop in the bucket compared to the number of commercial flights in the USA everyday.

It doesn't matter. Price discrimination is the best way to deal with these kinds of problems. Just enact a carbon tax. If billionaires want to pay through the nose to be somewhere in 1 hour by plane instead of 4 by train, then who the fuck cares? As long are you are paying for the cost in CO2 terms, it literally does not matter what you personally do.

You'd think someone like Ted Cruz, who would suck the market's cock if it had one would understand this, but I guess this is just further proof of how much of a pandering fucking retard he really is.

>>128105755
It kills livelihoods for the betterment of mankind. Sorry but I don't give a fuck about some truck drivers who dropped out of high school and refused to get an actual skill. Driving isn't a fucking skill. We all do it.

And what will happen will be there will be multiple roads at first. Some for driverless cars and some for people who wish to drive themselves. Your lane will just be more dangerous and slower. And cost more too. You'll eventually give in and go driverless too.

Sorry bud if you're a truck driver but I'd recommend you get a new trade asap.

>>128106433
Oh yes he very much needed to fly on a private plane to create his company!

>>128106420
I'd still smash

>>128100744
hahahahahhahahhahaha nuclear tipped CRUZ MISSILE

>>128106532
If those highly toxic lithium polymer cells were actually a viable alternative to fossil fuels, Musk wouldn't need to beg for gibs from the federal government.

>>128106699
the mercers and cambridge analytica dropped him

its amazing how naive /pol/ is

Proof that even Ratto-boy is much better than these liberal pieces of shits.

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>>128100744
never delete your Ted folder anons

His cunt fiance probably told him to do it, the guy is a sucker for the pussy.

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>>128101484
he never bent the knee

>>128100744
stupidest argument ever

everyone uses airplanes, thinking not using jets will fix global warming

>trump tards clap for this
just goes to show the real IQ of the right

Is Ted learning the ways of the shitpost by Trump?

>>128107195
Are you retarded?

he uses his a jet to fly just himself around..

when he could be flying commercial. Eliminating another jet in the sky, eliminating more pollution.

>>128107195
Sorry sweetie but it's about ideology. You don't really care about the planet when you sit in a private jet releasing tons of co2 every hour, the same way you don't give a shit about seal clubbing if you go club one yourself no matter how much you give to charity.

>>128106814
the higher classes make most of the money on the plane compared to economy
Are you retarded it's setting an example

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>>128100744
Musk is in the right though, just like Trump was in the right about uneven multilateral trade deals.

Trump was criticized for making hats, clothes, and other products outside of the USA while he was out on the campaign trail criticizing outsourcing and unfair trade deals. In Trump's mind, capitalism forces his hand to always minimize expenses in order to maximize profits. If he doesn't manufacture his clothes in China (or wherever), other American companies will step in, do the exact same thing, and overtake him. Then his business will be edged off the margins and go bankrupt because he can't compete.

It is for this reason that when "sinking to the bottom" (e.g. outsourcing) is has external costs or otherwise repugnant ramifications, -everyone- involved must be prevented from resorting to such behavior. That's why the only way to get around outsourcing is to blanket-penalize anyone who does so; ethically opposing it as an individual CEO is just going to get you gobbled up.

Just like Trump was not in the wrong to point this out, criticizing Musk for flying a private jet while pushing for stronger climate change laws is not a problem. He wants everyone to be penalized, then he'll follow the law. Just like Trump and protectionism.

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>billionaire who makes his living off of electricity doesnt want to support coal

Really makes you think.

>>128100744
>Ted just ROASTED the fuck out of Elon Musk
That can't be carbon neutral.

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>>128104095

Is you stupid,

Ford was universally mocked for a horseless carriage?

Did you, by chance, attend public school?

>>128107750
Bullshit, he didn't even invent the automobile

>>128107560
Except Elon is not penalized for not flying on a private jet you retard. Trump couldn't realistically compete with outsourced labor, it's different. Don't try to spin it.
>huuur it gives him a slightly more flexible schedule without that his business would be fucked
Yeah no that's retarded.

>>128100744

Why does nobody point out that the "Paris accord" asks you to undersign a host of unrelated far-left extremist causes like feminism and more money for anyone who isn't a white fucking male?

Is everyone a retard or just a coward? Does nobody read a document they spend days arguing over?

>>128101484
He's so unlikeable though, he may have cost Trump the election by driving away independents.

>EEELAAHHHNNN

>>128106814

>one person's plane ferrying one person at frequent amounts is less wasteful than a regular plane ferrying multiple people at once.

>not realizing it's pretty much aerial car-pooling

I'm pretty sure Ted Cruz is smarter than you.

>>128103383
Duh. You can't take away things that the elites need.

>>128107838
https://books.google.com/books?id=pi_OexT7TNEC&pg=PA40&lpg=PA40&dq=press+reaction+to+ford+car&source=bl&ots=FfTzp12HcJ&sig=NnBy_UjzN2sWxAaJmDkqgZKAbOA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj6x9zGw57UAhWM44MKHaZFAcQQ6AEIRzAG#v=onepage&q=press%20reaction%20to%20ford%20car&f=false

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>>128107838

i never fucking stated that you CNN master

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>>128107880
>>huuur it gives him a slightly more flexible schedule without that his business would be fucked

Are you the CEO of two businesses, one of which is valuated at $15 billion and the other at $50 billion?

No?

Then sit down and shut up about time. You would probably bend over and snap like a twig running just one of those.

>>128107911
they don't argue over the contents of the document itself, but of the signing of it. They couldn't give a shit what the thing says.

>>128103383

Solves muslim population too unless Soros starts transaltlantic boats

>>128107027

>fossil fuels aren't highly toxic

What a stupid fuck

>>128102629
>Self driving cars would put millions out of work too
good.

>>128106830
HOW THE FUCK ARE WE BETTER OFF IF WE KILL MILLIONS OF PEOPLE'S IDENTITY AND LIVELIHOODS? I'm not a trucker or a driver, but can we please just stop and have some fucking compassion for our fellow men? You do realize that self driving cars will lead the sick bastards in charge to outlaw human drivers too?

>>128102656
Nah, he pulled that shit with Kuchinich in Indiana. Fuck him.

>>128103182
>>128103590
>>128106433
>>128106814
>>128106830
>>128107195
>>128107560

You know I never really looked into shilling or shill activities but now I really do believe they are among us.

>>128108317
Not an argument. Prove why it's a necessity or stfo and gtfo.
>You PLEB have no idea how hard being a member of the elite is! Silence and keep shoveling shit!
Nah, I am not a fucking cuckhold. Unlike, say, you. Besides I have talked with people who had to do this kind of stuff and they always say teleconference is always more practical, I surely know more than you rich kike cocksucking faggot. You know they'll never trow you a bone for doing that right?

>>128102629
>Self driving cars would put millions out of work too
I agree
but if those millions of manhours could be put into something else, that would probably be more beneficial.

it's like when they made it illegal to tell the time on computers to save watchmakers jobs. It seems stupid af today.

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Ah yes, Ted Cruz, bastion of the right using one of Soviet Russia's favorite gaslighting techniques, you can be for X thing because you do Y thing.

>>128104397
My job is to love dogs while the owners are away.

Are you going to teach robots how to love?

25k/year dogsitter ftw

Anyone here wanna be a delegate for him in 2024???

He needs the delegates!!

>>128101484
He is needed in the Senate.

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A rich asshole is pissed that the US isn't going to send $3 billion to corrupt 3rd world shitholes for """"global warming"""", does he:

A) Get out his checkbook and personally cover the difference?

or

B) Whine on Twitter?

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>>128108667
Good comic, saved.

Also, OP is a windowbreaker faggot.

>>128108667
Are you comparing a peasant working under feudal lords to Elon Musk, a government subsidized millionaire? Yeah he has the means to do it in a more environmental fashion, dumb liberal.

>ITT: People that don't understand how many stockholder companies the mainstream media still has by the balls; and not limited to shills, such as Microsoft and Facebook.

>>128108494
Because it's fucking progress for businesses AND every common buyer. We will get cheaper goods this way. Seriously this happens to every fucking old job. As we progress in technology we lose old jobs. People will adapt and they will be taken care of if they're too old. But seriously it's not worth stopping us from having automatic traveling and goods transportation just to so truck drivers and some Indian taxi drivers have their jobs. New jobs will be created.

And they will only outlaw it if we let them. As I said the solution will at first be separate lanes. There's no way you can combat this unless you want to ban them and then America can't compete globally because you know other countries won't ban them. It's the exact reason why we're not getting rid of fossil fuels. By using them we get economic advantages since our competition does too. It isn't about saving their jobs. I know that's hard to hear but it's true.

>>128108859
Cruz is a greasy, opportunistic asshole who's only loyal because he thinks that's where he needs to be to advance his personal brand. Trump shouldn't let Cruz anywhere near him.

Ted is stupid. That zinger works for anybody else, but musk is working his ass off to revitalize Americas auto industry with electric cars. Not to mention solar panels and men on mars.

>>128103186
a fucking leaf again.
The transportation industry accounts for 1/5 or so of all currently employed people. If it's automated and all other businesses are also being automated currently. You're fucked kiddo.
We've had a revolution where we replaced physical labor, so we changed our jobs, but now it's intellect we're having automated. When we've got automated physical power and intellect there's really not many jobs left to do, now is there?

>>128108403
>fossil fuels are bad
>so lets make 'renewable energy sources' like solar panels, made from non-renewable resources, using non-renewable energy, that have a short shelf life and can only be partially recycled (using non-renewable energy)
tippity topity kek my friend

>>128108621
I never claimed it was a necessity you dumbass, so clearly you didn't comprehend the comparison to Trump.

Manufacturing clothes in Bangladesh is not necessary. Manufacturing hats in China is not necessary. Taking a private jet to see the Department of Energy is not necessary. These can all be done in different locations or via different means.

What is necessary, however, is an equal playing field, not just for someone who believes outsourcing to be harmful for our country, or climate change to be harmful to our country. If either Trump or Musk were to "walk the walk" while talking the talk, they'd go bankrupt and then their voices would be silent and gone, completely nullifying any work they put forth ending outsourcing/climate change.

That you haven't realized this is beyond me. You don't win by getting knocked out, unlike your PM argues.

>>128102113
the "pence hates faggots" memes are funny though

>>128108667
whomstd do I have to gas to stop these godawful comics from coming out?

>>128108597
Hahah yeah okay guy. I'm a total shill because I think the future is driverless cars. You'll note I never defended Musk. But since I'm for driverless cars I'm an obvious shill. Would you fuck off kiddo. Go the way of Hal Turner.

Elon musk is honestly a cool guy. He is a successful robot. He is awkward as fuck, he games on his computer most of the day, and he shitposts in real life.

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I HATE TED CRUZ

>>128100744
All im hearing from cruz's tweet is jealously

>>128108870
T H I C C

>>128108667
>gaslighting
do you even know what that is? I dont see how Cruz is wrong in anyway either, people (including rich people) talk alot about the need to fix our environment, but all they do is talk, nothing that will actually effect their good life style.

>>128102656
He's good when his opponent isn't saying he's the son of an assassin.

>>128109094
>that have a short shelf life
I didn't know 25 years was short (for a solar panel). How long does a liter of gas last you exactly? A week? Now that's short.

>>128109156
You don't have to defend musk, just the machinations of the globalist without realizing the implications. Which you don't.

>>128109074
>electric cars
GAY

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>>128108251
>Ford was mocked for a horseless carriage
>even though trains had already existed for a century
>even though the automobile had already been around for over a decade
>even though he was not the first to build a commercial model
You didn't even read what you pasted

>>128108494
>cheaper goods
>cheaper transportation
>less traffic accidents, less headaches for little accidents
>40,000/year lives saved
>thousands of permanent traffic injuries prevented
>more hours in the day to do other stuff

and
>You do realize that self driving cars will lead the sick bastards in charge to outlaw human drivers too
I mean desu that's probably a good thing considering all the benefits. but that won't happen for decades

>>128109160
Elon musk is successful because he works 100 hour weeks and takes huge risks. He's also redpilled as fuck, being South African.

>>128108494
Lol I'm guessing your republican? Who gives a fuck about a bunch of poor white trash who are too fucking stupid to get a better job that a god damn machine can too. It's there own fault, fuck off with your fake ass sympathy.

>>128102629
>we need to halt technology in order to preserve a capitalistic society that is facing its limits

You fucking guys are even worse than the catholics who doomed the human civilization with 1000 years of dark age.

>>128107545

> setting an example

Setting an example only matters when retards like you are given a voice into decision making.

>>128108064

> can't even understand the argument

Literally, what he does it not important, because it's not an individual problem, it's a systemic problem.

The problem is not a few billionaires jetting around, it is everybody taking flights and not paying for the true cost of their CO2 emissions.

If we had a price on carbon, most flights would no longer happen anymore, and the few billionaires who are still flying would have already paid for the carbon emissions they generated by flying via the tax so it would be a non-issue.

>>128109121
Yes it is necessary, it's not realistically possible to compete with other distributors unless you're labor costs are similar (unless you target a hippy crowd that will buy your product just because), basic capitalism.

Elon has no reason to use a private jet. He would be justified to use an electric grid running on coal/oil/natural gas if his competitors do, but not vanity bullshit if he truly believes in it.
I don't think human languages in history developed a word suitable to describe your retardation in making such a bad comparison. I probably shouldn't bother.

>>128107984
This

Every time Cruz speaks, he sounds to me like a man who's planned his every step since he was young so that he could one day become President. His face/speaking patterns are unsettling as well, Idk if it's uncanny valley or something else but it's off putting to say the least.

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>>128100744
It's over, Elon, I have summoned the Elector Delegates.
Just hand over the private aircraft

>>128100744
Fucking thank you based Ted. Fuck this piece of shit Musk, the biggest fraud since Einstein.

>>128109527
>Elon has no reason to use a private jet.
You apparently think that you can teleconference a meeting to the Department of Energy, so I'm not surprised you'd think that.

>>128108859
He IS the senate

>>128107399
CEO's need to travel more frequently and faster than an average person in a commercial flight. If you have a company with thousands of employees all over the country it's essential to be able to get anywhere you need to go ASAP

>>128102629
How many people did the refrigerator put out of work? Or the washer and dryer? Fucking progress frees us up to do other things.

>>128109340
Maybe gay in 2006. Now they completely outperform even the most powerful gas cars.

>>128109686
No, they're still gay.

>>128103004
Nearly shart in mart with laughter. Good one, Flanders.

>>128108494
>>128108975
Oh please, there's no chance of self-driving cars going mainstream in any of our lifetimes.

- 5 to 10 years minimum for the tech to get anywhere near consumer-grade.
- 20 years at least from the first production models for it to come down in price to the point where average people can afford it (adaptive cruise control has been a thing for longer than that and is still a luxury option)
- 10+ years after that for cars to propagate into the used car market enough that the regular joes driving $5k beaters can even think about buying one.

Only then can you even BEGIN to think about outlawing regular cars.

>>128109074
Electric cars have failed over and over. The only new thing Musk brings to the table is a trendy brand name. Tesla lives and dies with Musk's cult of personality.

And going to Mars is absolute fucking horseshit that he's using to boost his public image. A trip to Mars would be utterly unprofitable (so no investors) and much too expensive for him to fund out-of-pocket. There's literally no way it's happening unless he convinces Trump or some future president to give him the $20 billion to do it instead of NASA.

>>128100744
I honestly respect ted cruz these days. I hated him during the election when he was getting owned but he handled his defeat with grace after the convention. He doesn't cry, he punks people, he supports the president even if he doesnt love him. Hes a respectable guy. Theres a chance Id vote for him in the future.

>>128100744
Ted is based after his redemption arc

>>128100744
Its funny that some of the smartest people in the world are so stupid when it comes to politics.

>>128104903

Exactly, these retards seem to fail to realize that's the only reason for pushing the self-driving tech.

>>128109983
Ted is NOT one of the smartest people on the world, bro

>>128102629
>Invention of Light bulbs to destroy Candle Making industry

>>128103098
That's one of the few things I disagree with Trump on. Non-muslim outsiders are not expected to wear head coverings especially elites and politicians. Non-muslim visitors only do this in unsafe areas.

>>128105230
>side hustle
Or anons a shitskin

Ted fucking learned a thing or two from Trump. Nigger has been on fire since Trump got in office.

>>128109674
People ITT don't seem to realize that.

https://www.tesla.com/findus#/bounds/41.1146959,-73.44489010000001,41.0360534,-73.51736599999998,d?search=store,
These are simply store locations, not even R&D or manufacturing.

https://www.tesla.com/about
According to this, they have at least one in Fremont, CA

https://evannex.com/blogs/news/innovation-culture-tesla-r-d-spending-versus-other-automakers
R&D has to be somewhere at a 17% rate but I don't see any locations. It just says generic "Silicon Valley," so let's just assume the Bay Area is yet another location

http://www.spacex.com/about
SpaceX thankfully is a lot cleaner. The map at the bottom of the page shows 3 launch facilities across 3 states, 4 offices across 3 states, 1 HQ, and one "development facility" which I presume is their R&D. All in all that's 5 different states all spread across the country from coast to coast.

Good luck using a commercial jet to do that. If Musk is campaigning for carbon credits or whatever, he's clearly willing to pay a higher price on himself. But only when others are penalized/taxed equally.

>>128109674
Of course. Phones and video conferences don't exist. Also, you can't possibly trust the people you hired to do their job. You must micromanage everything.

You idiot.

>>128102629
>Self driving cars will put millions out of work too

Fixed that for you, because it's inevitable. The Market system provides no incentive to keep human beings employed. It's all about cost efficiency and getting people out the picture is cost efficient.

>>128110449
>hold on guys, let me conference call this rocket going into space
>"can you turn the camera a little bit to the left? I can't see on this webcam"

>>128103186
Nice source leaf, I cant wait until the automated maple harvesters kick into production & millions of leaves are out of jobs

all of these people on his "advisory" council are just there to try and get favors to help their businesses. they don't give two flying fucks about the climate.

>>128110468

>have your robots make all this dumb shit for you
>nobody has a job and can't buy shit

Enjoy your 10,000,000 cases of unsold finger spinners, greedy faggots.

>>128100744
so vacant spot on the council? i'm ready to fill the spot senpai

>>128107195
>It's about doing as I say and not as I do.
Wow, tell us more oh wise one.

>>128100744
So Musk will still fly his own private jet around the world?

>>128102570
exactly, he has 3 major businesses:
Tesla - completely dependent on government subsidies/tax rebates
the solar panel one - completely dependent on government tax breaks/subsidies
SpaceX - completely dependent on government money, etc.
it's actually pathetic. if you support yourself with a little job you are more of a man than government moocher musk (not even from the US)

>>128102656
Cruz is sharp but he is repulsive to people who aren't pretty solidly on the right

HAHAHA YASSSSS DADDY SLAYYY #CRUZMISSLEs POP OFF

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>blocks your private jet

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>>128102619

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>>128109653
fug, beat me to it

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>>128102308

you gonna count el rato out?

nawnaw't happening

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>>128101484
No.

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>>128103295
>was
did he die?

>>128100744
based ted
>Ted Cruz in a MAGA hat
FUCKING BASED

>>128111435
Theodore the Tormented
Sean Spicer the Sky Dragon
The Winged Dragon of Carson

>>128100744
THE GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES, MUSK

>>128103186
Nice logical fallacy, syrupnigger

>>128103295
Ted is getting the lando story arc

>>128100744
>Am


wtf is this shit?

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>>128111991
Hello Rato!!!

>>128101055
WTF I HATE ELON MUSK BUILDING FACTORIES IN AMERICA NOW!

>>128103186
Except they didn't. Everyone could see the economic potential unlocked.

>>128103295
Ted is appollo creed

>>128116004
WTF I LOVE SUBSIDIZING CARS FOR RICH TECH MOGULS NOW!

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>>128108667
>Comparing using an iPhone when Androids are a perfectly viable alternative to the feudal system and cars.

>>128102629
That's not a reason to hate Musk, a reason to hate him is his dependence of government gibs.

>>128100744
climate change is real, sweetie. its just not important.

>>128108667
/pol/ just got blown out by this lol

>>128102057
>>128101055
It's because all these faggots pooled theit money together, invested it in this shit and we're planning on cornering the market on green energy and solar panels, while lining their pockets full of profit and tax payer money.

>>128108667
I honestly hate the "but you said that from an Iphone" meme.

>>128108667
That comic is fucking retarded.

>>128100744
Kek. Musk is a faggot.

>>128116558
No shit, it's always about money.
Socialists have latched on to this because they see it as a way to redistribute wealth away from oil companies and into "eco-friendly" hippy bullshit.

>>128108667
Difference is a poor peasant or slave can't leave society. Elon Cuck can stop flying in private planes any time.

>>128104730
Nice ID crumpet monkey

>>128103793
>Im on the Trump train but if he said that shit about my family like he did Teds I would never support the man.

You go after Trump's family, he goes after yours. Simple.

Or to be more accurate, your PAC goes after Trump's family, and he might retweet something he got a chuckle out of, neither candidate having ever said anything about the other's family.

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>>128107124
It's high noon, Elon.

>>128106171
>>128115671
>>128116160
yall fucking wise

>>128102629
Putting all the Musl--I mean, nice white cab drivers out of work, quelle horreur!

They need to unveil self-driving cabs in Rotherham first.

>>128108667
>gaslighting
u mean not being a fucking hypocrite.

>>128105872
LION TED CRUZ

TIME TRAVELER TRUMP KNEW

>>128110768
universal basic income

>When you need 51 votes to ratify but your squad has the most ratified politician in the Senate.

>>128108859
The senate will decide his fate.

>>128109624
>You apparently think that you can teleconference a meeting to the Department of Energy, so I'm not surprised you'd think that.
I do this every week.

>>128116154
whereas releasing millions of drivers has zero economic potential. human beings have no valuable except for driving cars. if cars start driving themselves we'll be worthless.

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>>128100744
wtf I love delegates now

>>128111070

This. It doesn't matter if the 15% of the electorate that is far-right conservative likes you if you are repulsive to anyone else. All that gets you at most is a Senate seat in Texas.

>>128100744
A shit eating politician who never created a dollar GDP in his entire life, vs one of the greatest entrepreneurs of our time.

And of course /pol/ sides with the slimbag. Why am I not surprised.

>>128116335
WTF I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT A LOAN IS

>>128119057
Not one right wing retard understands what a loan is. It was paid off years ago. Tesla is amazing for the us economy.

>>128119057
damn. all those government subsidiary dollars he created out of thin air. what a true libertarian hero.

>>128119173
He also created paypal.
Many republican cronies get special treatments and tax cuts.
At least Tesla is honest about it. And they build the cars in the US, unlike "muh bad globalism, let me make those things in Bangladesh and sell them back to USA" republican patriots.

>>128119165
subsidies and loans are very different.

>>128100744
His entire financial situation depends on (((Global warming)))

>>128109313
Lol forgot about that

Say you disagree with someone in power. Is it better to be able to give them some advice or is it better to give them no advice?

These actions seem more like emotional logic fail. It's like a woman giving the silent treatment. Beta shit.

>>128106285
Leo DiCuckrio
>devotes life railing platitudes against climate change
>literally flew in a woman from Australia to do his fucking eyebrows for the Oscars
>drives a working class Prius instead of a Bentley to virtue signal

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>>128108667
>I AM SILLY!
Except that brown bitch could have bought any other kind of phone (And save money in the process) while the nigger and the old lady don't have any other choice.
False equivalency at its best.

>>128119057
>liberal hun fagging it up in multiple threads
>ruins my midnight shitposting

Ted should have been president. He would have wiped the floor with Hillary.

>>128110182
Candles still have function, allowing to set atmosphere in restaurants or having a ritualistic or cultural purpose in religion

I dont think well see a future where we drive our old BMWs into the living room for the sake of a nice dining atmosphere

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>>128103098
>having respect for poopy skin magic carpet riding stinky sub human savage filth

come on now leaf

>>128100744
Its a symbolic move with a 'symbolic council'
Its intended to raise a sign of protest at the presidents actions, not solve the problem outright.

>>128109678
Yeah like jerk off and play video games

>>128100744
Based Ted is right. These rich fags are all talk while stuffing their coffers

>>128108667
Where were you when pointing out hipocrisy became a Russian discussion breaker?

I dont believe Elon Musk doesnt believe in green energy because he flies private everywhere, I believe Elon Musk is a fucking hypocrite for claiming to care about green energy while flying private everywhere

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>>128117875
nigger

>>128109686
Yeah for 15 minutes then you spend half a day recharging the cunts

>>128103446
So we agree.

I can support the environment and not give a fuck about Paris, Carbon taxes or (((Global warming))).

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>>128100744
HOLY SHIT that wasn't a roast
>Cruz also retarded

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>>128119165
you realize Tesla is subsidized right, the US government is subsidizing like 80% of the manufacturing costs of Tesla vehicles either through direct funding or tax exceptions.

The idea is to essentially try and "jump start" the industry by giving these breaks up front until Tesla is finally self sufficient and where their cars become widespread and mainstream across America. Until that happens Tesla is nothing but a financial black hole burdening the tax payers, but they don't advertise that part do they?

Get your head out of your stinky ass and read a book kid, I can't be arsed to keep helping people like you become more enlightened. The only way this works is with a pay-it-forward approach, now that I've educated you its your job to educate at least 3 new anons and instruct each of them to educate 3 more. It's the only way this works and we can begin to undo the brainwashing you've been spoon fed since you were a goddamn infant.

>>128100744
Oh shit I didn't know he had bantz of this caliber

>>128102359
I used to hate el rato until he absolutely btfo Bernie in their debate over healthcare.

I donated to Bernie because he was spouting Goebbels memes.

>>128124397
And they say Nazis aren't socialists/left wing faggots.

>>128100744
AWWW SHIT SON

I GUESS I'M A

#CRUZMISSILE

NOW

>>128100744
Easy Soaring Ted, roasting a human being like that has got to be bad for the environment

>>128102656
A professor of mine told me he was president of the debate club when he was at harvard

>>128126348
he was, you can google it

he's extremely skilled at debating, a very smart guy

>>128100744
chew em up rato

>>128109313
That was such a strange move for Trump to make. No idea how he came up with it or knew it would work but it did.

>>128103590
>>128106830
>>128108975
>if you get driven about it is (((progress)))
>(((mankind)))
>(((p-p-progress)))


What did Moishe mean by this?

>>128109686
There is not a fucking electric car that outperforms the Ford GT. Holy shit you're dumb.

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>>128102629
good. automation will destroy the judeo-capitalist economy so we can implement glorious national socialism again.

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>>128103446
Well that's your average lefty, they pollute their surroundings because they are literally too retarded to understand what happens, yet virtue aignals that they support the climate agreements.

Dunk BTFO but in all seriousness we need to rally behind a trusTed conservative

These deals result in 1st world countries exporting their pollution to other countries.

Such a dishonest fucking group of people.

>>128102629
>Self driving cars would put millions out of work too
Good uber and taxi fags need to go the way of the dinosaur

>>128109866
Wow someone that actually thinks in logical timeframes instead of the usual "Happening Now!!" crap.

>>128101484
Pence is literally a more honorable version of Rato

>>128101484
Cruz/Kanye 2024 screencap this

>>128106814
>just give me your fucking shekels goyim, only the ultra rich deserve to fly

>>128119057
Musk is just another con-man. His contributions to a clean planet are the environmentally disastrous batteries that go into his coal-plant powered cars. His plan for going to Mars is another con for govt bux.

>>128103295
Cruz Ocelot

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>>128103295
He redeemed himself