Trump Just Saved US $100 Billion...

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/448201/paris-agreement-trump-right-pull-out

Obama laughs no more
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/434412/paris-climate-agreement-americans-foot-bill-no-effect-climate

Based Trump

>>128094859
muhahaha

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>"Even National Review..."
National Review is the biggest sensationalist news source for Trumpists.
>Article cites Obama violated constitution
Paris Agreement was a international treaty that requires no ratification by Congress. Foreign relation treaties are completely up to to Executive Branch. No one shit on Carter for what he did at Camp David. No one shit on Reagan for Egypt. etc. etc. by saying it violated the Constitution.
>Saved US $100 Billion
Money will be taken anyway and wasted still towards something else. No victory.

Nat Review BTFO!!!!

>>128096304
this much shill damage control

that almost, but not quite, makes up for the $110 billion he threw away giving to saudi shitskin mudslimes!

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>>128096304
(tears) you're right. you've been right all along... wait, hahahahahaha, I'm sorry, I was trying to take you seriously but, hahahahahaha

winning is so much fun

plebbitors on suicide watch

Envirocucks got BTFO

>>128093744
Pretty fucking cool

Countries that would contribute to the $100 billion a year under the Paris Climate Deal

>USA
>Australia
>Austria
>Belgium
>Canada
>Czech Republic
>Finland
>France
>Germany
>Greece
>Ireland
>Israel
>Italy
>Japan
>Netherlands
>New Zealand
>Norway
>Portugal
>Slovenia
>Spain
>Sweden
>Switzerland

"Developing nations" that would receive this money:

>China
>Brazil
>Russia
>India
>North Korea (no joke)
>Qatar
>Iran
>Saudi Arabia
>UAE

>>128093744
>>128094532

>no sheckles
http://archive.is/YBU8p

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archive if you don't want to give those kikes shekel-clicks
>>128094532
http://archive.is/YBU8p
>>128094695
http://archive.is/B6zK8

>>128096304

>if we call a treaty an accord that means it isn't a treaty

America-hating law-violating faggots absolutely blown the fuck out. And we saved money doing it!

>>128093744
Am I even gonna see a penny of that?

>>128097806
they paid US you fucking idiot

>>128093744
yeah no shit. it's a bunch of crooked money. the world's been sucking off our teat for too long. Trump is saying fuck off and pull your own weight.

>>128093744

Billions, not trillions. Meanwhile you spent 10 trillion dollars in Iraq and Afghanistan for a decade but 10,000 American soldiers dead with no victory in sight

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>>128098163
>>128098338
>>128098471
YUUUUUUGEEE
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/by-leaving-paris-climate-change-deal-trump-will-do-u-s-economy-a-yuuuge-favor/

>>128096304
>Trumpists
Found the redditor

>>128098626
This. hahahhahahahahahaha

>>128093744
It just means the rest of the world will have real climate change mitigation strategies with real teeth, now that the US isn't there to water them down. It's definitely better for the RoW that US is out, but it might end up biting us.

>>128093744

> Save $100 million to please your dumb fly-over fans
> Spend $1 trillion dollars protecting Manhattan Boston and Miami from rising seas for the next century

>>128098163
Why is China getting money? They're one the largest economies.

Brazil & Russia, I can see. They are developing nations. However doesn't everyone hate Russia? Giving money to Russians would just have the media attack Trump more.

India? Again one the largest economies, why would they get money? They should stop raping & invest infrastructure.

>Middle East countries

Haha. Why the fuck they receiving money? They're loaded with oil. They're rolling in the money. Even with oil prices down.

>Iran

Yes let's give money to another country that hates the west. Might as well be paying for ISIS.

Wait we're already doing that.

>North Korea

Why would we give money to a country that threatens to blow up everything with nukes?

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>>128099051
>>128099085
Uh... fly-over state? You meant all of 'em except the ones the chinese own. We'll take care of those in 2018 too, if they don't sink ;-)

'Merica Biznitch

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>>128099085
do you have to kill the fun just like that? ;_;

>>128099560
Ask the kikes my man, every one of those countries but Brazil have a beef with murica.

>>128099560
Boom. Truth Bomb. Love it. Meme This Brilliance.

>>128098163

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>>128098787
>Article outright denies anthropogenic change and talks about bs like the little ice age

>>128098471
>No, instead, you'll feel 10 trillion of them.When the burden of the severe debt we've collected starts to get lifted (assuming you dont live in commiefornia)

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>>128099085
Look dumbass the North America could disappear tomorrow and Climate Change would continue thanks to China & India. The only actual way to stop Climate Change at this point would simply be wiping out half of humanity and the developing world.

Shouldn't have sent all that industry overseas where we can't do anything about emissions, you liberal faggot.

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>>128099873
Meme reminds us you're use of big words only impresses people who've educated themselves into imbecility in just 50 years time. Congrats... the rest of us can understand this with high school social studies class which covers 250 years and can be summarized by three letters

USA

>>128100236
Yeah that and the fact that 4 billion chinks, streetshitters and assorted asians live there, fuck them.

>>128100236

> what is game theory

Do you not understand how hard it is to get the entire globe to agree to do something about a problem? Exiting as this point just paints as a pariah. This isn't the mid 1990s, the US's actual clout is not what it used to be, we won't get away with this without consequences.

The treaty has frameworks in place for everybody (including developing countries) to step up their contributions as time went on which would become politically easier as the consequences of our CO2 emissions begin to become clearer over the next fifteen years (at current rates we could see a blue ocean even in the arctic as soon as 2020).

There is absolutely nothing wrong with paying off countries like China and India in order to agree them to get their emissions under control (which they are already doing anyway, because it's also in their best interest).

They want to industrialize, we all want to not destabilize civilization. Pollution has costs. Consider the transfer payments reparations for the damage we caused to the collective environment before we understood what we were doing.

The USA is truly the most moronic country on the planet.

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>>128099085

>>128093744
We just can't stop winning
Lefties just can't stop losing
born losers

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>>128099085

>Someone is going to have to build does sea walls
>More Jobs
>everyone only really care about jobs
>republican wins again
>check mate liberal

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>>128098163
>Qatar
>Iran
>Saudi Arabia
>UAE

and meanwhile we are currently building the biggest coal powerplant humanity has even known, because our government are creatures of the abyss.

>>128099801
youre alright churro bro. good to see a fellow analyst.

>>128093744
UM

NO SWEETIE

DRUMPF IS GOING GOLFING SOON

AND IT WILL COST US LIKE AT LEAST A MILLION DOLLARS

>>128097806
you're a retard

p much all Trump has been trying to do is an effort to get our country out of a fucking huge whole Obama put us in and he's succeeding 10 fold.
Trump is basically Winston Wolf; he's the cleaner

>>128102264
Yes and let us idiots keep our money. Let the smart big brained, big dicked, intelligent, rich and innovative europeans pay out for this. Just leave us dumb ignorant stupid poor Americans out of it.

>>128102264
And here we see an american that actually understands the topic he is talking about. A rare sight these days but the legend seems to be true. Astonishing.

>>128096304
>saved 100 bill
>will be used elsewhere
>somehow not a victory
Shilling should require some standards man

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>>128093744
What good is a hundred million dollars if you have no planet to spend it on?

>>128103580
Fuck you Indonesia, you fucking better learn to swim.

>>128102264
tell me one way you can guarantee china actually reduces carbon emissions without cheating and pocketing the money + the green energy technology we will be sharing with them

one way

>>128103740
no just trust me, give china and india a bunch of money and everything will be fine. they will definitely reduce their greenhouse gas by 60% in 13 years even though they have no plans to do so. why would they lie?

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>>128103691
And you better learn to climb, ese.

>>128103580
You mean 100 BILLION?

>"I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris," he said.
do people not read what he is going to say?
how can a human being this fucking dumb be a president

but whats even more puzzling is how can you actually sit by and watch him destroy your country

whatever, asking the wrong nation, blindfolded cucks

>>128103580
Perhaps you've heard of a little place called Mars?

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>>128104152
LEL. you gooks are nothing.

>>128104152
hahahahahaha mexico btfo

>>128096304
yeah only the senate gets to vote on it and you need a super majority. Fucking libs.

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>>128096304

Bumper

>>128104495
>>128103360
>>128102264
Great Again = Not like the rest of the world.
Winning = Leading a bunch of cucked nations who will beg for American intervention in less than 5 years when they are overrun by globalist shills and terrorism.

WWII vs. WWIII we may not bail you out again. Get your sh*# together and your mind right.

>>128105581
>fuck climate change because WWII
>'MURICA

This is how the burger mind operates. *baka*

>>128103740

Because it's also in their best interest to reduce carbon emissions? You do realize the Chinese actually live in the same planet as us right?

The Shanghai mega region (which has 30 million people) would be completely lost in the event of even moderate sea level rise. That's basically all of China's NYC tri-state area going underwater.

China cheating is a meme spread by Americans like >>128105581 who have 1) never been to China and 2) can't handle the fact that China is nowadays a more successful and better run country than the USA.

Electric cars and bikes are everywhere in China, they have criss crossed their country with high speed rail, nuclear power is the fastest growing electricity source, they are leaders in renewable R&D etc.

For the record, I'm firmly in the camp that we are FUCKED already regardless of what we do because I don't believe it is physically possible at all to stay below 2 degrees celsius (which means billions of people are doomed) but if we can't even keep ourselves from running above 3, or god forbid 4 degrees, then honestly, I will dare say that it's GAME OVER MAN barring some literal magic deus ex machina event (AI/Fusion/Operation Dark Storm/covering the ocean in genetically modified super algae).

>>128105978
>Fuck real science because muh narrative
>KEK

Fuck you Swede cuck. Keep eating up the lies of globalist Jews and company.

Interestingly enough, the most environmentally friendly thing the US can do is to reclamation its manufacturing and production which would severely reduce the amount of pollution from India and China (and thereby globally) both due to the US's stricter environmental laws and the reduced ocean and aerial freight shipping..

China will not change. They are not required to, nor do they show any real interest in doing so. They have, I believe 10 years give or take to increase emissions, but there are no real consequences other than stemming the tide of free money and cutting them off.

You could impose trade sanctions I suppose, but China was decently off before its markets were exposed to the west and the west loves it's cheap goods and China loves the wests resources and you're not going to go to war because they go over a smokestack quota.

The entire agreement has no teeth and in the end does very little to actually change anything. It is a hollow and meaningless thing.

But rather than try to come up with a better solution or way of doing things, people just scoff and turn their noses up that someone would dare deny their golden calf tribute.

Steps need to be taken certainly, however this will do nothing of the sort. I hope though that I end up eating crow.

>>128105581
If you would have sticked to you "minding my own business, let the rest of the world do whatever they want aslong as they dont annoy us"-mentality the world would be a much better place.

>>128093744
Let's see how much the international 'Climate compensation tariffs' are going to cost you though.

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100 Billion PER YEAR

>>128106199
Hurr durr it's da joos!

>>128106050
Have you ever done business with the Chinese? No?
I have. They will lie, cheat, and steal wherever they think they can get away with it.
>Buy granite
>It's supposed to be 1 inch thick
>is shipped to me in various thicknesses
>The fuck is this
>Oh sorry, there must have been a mixup, we only do metric
>We had met in person two months ago to see if they could do imperial
>They said yes
And various other stories if you'd pull your head out of your ass and learn more about the cultures of the world.

They don't give a shit about their citizens, or the economy, only turning a buck. They're very much like crony american capitalists that way.

>>128106199
''real science'' which is rejected by actual scientists. Bet you think vaccines cause autism too.

>>128106294
there are steps to take sure but it's not gonna come from a bunch of political leaders attending a UN circlejerk once a year

>>128102264
>There is absolutely nothing wrong with paying off countries like China and India in order to agree them to get their emissions under control (which they are already doing anyway, because it's also in their best interest).

then why pay them?

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>>128102264
>I am a nigger
Yes, you are.

>at current rates we could see a blue ocean even in the arctic as soon as 2020)
Ok Al

>we won't get away with this without consequences.
Laughable, we have the greatest military on earth. We are decades ahead of our competition.

Trump Destroys Carbon Tax Scam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCbFXQEPTlQ

>>128096304
>money will be taken anyway and wasted still towards something else
ran out of ideas huh?

>>128093744
While I like that Trump did this, America was only on the hook for $3billion of the cumulative $100billion that was going to be pooled by loads of countries. Still a big saving for a useless agreement well done yanks.

What is wrong with renewable energy?

>>128102264
>(at current rates we could see a blue ocean even in the arctic as soon as 2020).
I've been hearing this since the 70s. No oil, water up to my waist on a coastal town, 100million climate refugees all that shit. It's nonsense.

>>128106647

I'm literally going to Shanghai tomorrow for two weeks of business meetings.

They are normal people.

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>>128099085
Looks pretty good to me.

>>128107516
It kills republican jobs.

>>128096304
>Money will be taken anyway and wasted still towards something else. No victory.
Is money spent on a wall really money wasted, you get a wall out of it?

>>128106417
The world would be a better place if Poland invaded Germany

>>128107025

> Laughable, we have the greatest military on earth. We are decades ahead of our competition.

Russia can nuke anybody, yet they don't call the shots. Maybe there's more to foreign policy than simply military power?

>>128107598

A blue ocean event is not dangerous because of sea level rise. It's dangerous because the solar radiation that used to go to melting ice, would be going directly to heating up water.

https://youtu.be/-ae6n3Izn30

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>>128093744
The $100 billion is cumulative for all the first world countries - 3 billion annually for US
At this point, it's impossible to tell how much of the misinformation is witlessly parroted idiocy and how much is deliberate

>>128108227
Heating up the water, which means more evaporation, which means more clouds, more precipitation and solar reflection. Sounds good to me!

>>128102822
I have no prob with the coal plant, the issue is who will be maintaining it

Trump finally did something
Of course CC is bulldust
I might start liking him again

>>128098676
As if billions is a small number. We finance fucking everything with debt, it all adds up you stupid sea nigger.

>>128093744
Why he`s so strange and incompetent?

>>128106417
>The USA doesn't do nuffin
>Israel nukes Iran
>India nukes Pakistan
>Russia nukes whatever for the lulz
>China raeps Japan
>All of the stupid European feuds between various nations manifests into a tangible thing and WWIII starts since no one is preventing a chimpout
>Turkey annexes Greece
>etc etc

Sometimes being the bully on the block can serve the greater good. Eurocucks need another apocalyptic war in order to remind themselves that there is a far worse boogieman than big bad America.

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>>128093744
I don't understand why this is a problem.
The US is in massive debt, it only makes sense to get out of stupid costly clubs for the elites to gather at.

>>128100236
R A R E
A
R
E

>>128096304
>Saved US $100 Billion
>Money will be taken anyway and wasted still towards something else. No victory.

Admits he saved us 100 Billion

Penalizing companies for their carbon emissions will only drive them to move to China or other countries where there's cheap labor and they don't give a shit about climate change.

>>128108440
Oh, only 3 billion dollars thrown away ever year?
Sign us up.

>>128102264
>game theory
>the bureaucrats of the USA should continue to bleed their struggling populace of more money so that the next Obama can fly around the world shaking people's hands and posing for photos so we win the game

>There is absolutely nothing wrong with paying off countries like China and India in order to agree them to get their emissions under control
I can't fathom thinking this statement is true.
>(which they are already doing anyway, because it's also in their best interest).
then why are we talking about paying them?

>>128109092
The funny thing is that China has so much invested in Africa now, that all the money will probably find it's way to them anyway.

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>>128109128
Go ahead and neck your immediate family, just in case the resounding scientific consensus is wrong and your severe retardation risks being passed on unimpeded

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>>128093744
I like where this is going.

>>128109609
Tell us what the climate accord has to do with science, Schlomo.

>>128109609
All those other nations are still in the agreement sweetie. China will get its free money from Germany instead.

>>128102264
>won't get away with this without consequences

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=084irEAQrLQ

>>128093744
China can't wait to be handed the crown on global leadership while you people wither to dust and choke to coal and whatever chemicals they pour the ground with fracking.

>>128107601
>I'm literally going to Shanghai tomorrow for two weeks of business meetings.
>They are normal people.
Shanghai isn't where you average Chinese person lives. The only place I can think of that's more Yuppy than Shanghai is Suzhou.

>>128109720
Nothing, it's all about moving money. That's why the leading voice right now is a former Rothschild banker.

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>>128109720
http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/v6/n9/full/nclimate3096.html
Cum on lad, you need spoonfeeding? If you really have a shit about knowing the facts, it wouldn't take you long to educate yourself.

What does your unqualified political opinion have to do with the world's aggregated scientific understanding of the facts?

>>128110173
They set goals for nothing to happen. By moving money around nothing will happen, proving them right.
Seriously are you guys this retarded?

>>128110173
>"The near-term mitigation targets set by countries for the 2020–2030 period are insufficient to secure the achievement of the temperature goal."

>>128109990
China is the most polluted nation in the entire world and the Paris Agreement is symbolic at best. No one follows it because there is no fucking accountability outside of faith that X nation will follow it. Trump withdrawing from this ridiculous agreement is simply him telling Europe, "We don't care about you." While this won't affect the USA in the short term, such acts will certainly hasten a scenario such as: >>128108817

Enjoy, faggots. You're getting your wish--European bitch about American hegemony every single day. Let's see if the world is a better place without it.

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>>128096304
I'll need to check the entrails and runes to see if you managed to slip any facts in with all that shilling and logical fallacies

>>128098163
>China
>developing
Holy shit how did everyone agree to get cucked that hard?

>>128110317
We really need a more aggressive approach, this will only slow the trend
Do your own research anon, using firsthand sources and not political punditry

>>128109990
>China can't wait to be handed the crown on global leadership

Start learning Mandarin, then. A Chinese hegemony assumes that Chinese media, language, culture, etc will become the dominant world culture. One hundred years down the line, after you have worked your two hundredth 14 hour day on end without a day off and finished your fine meal of orange dog meat with rice, you'll turn on your television. Chinese state media will be airing a documentary about what the Western World was like ages ago under American influence. It had democracy, freedom of speech, freedom of expression and worker's rights. Everyone will believe that it is a fictional tale because such a utopia is unfathomable in current year.

>>128096304
national re-jew hates trump and was a pain in the ass all election

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>>128110308
It's painful listening to nitwits make the most baseless claims on factual topics. Too many people voice opinions on things they know nothing about. And the more ignorant they are, the more opinions they have.

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Leftists on Reddit talking about blowing up US infrastructure over this

>>128111647
Tell your mom

>>128110826
so one minute China is a third world shithole, another minute China can't even be considered a developing country? The stance of /pol/ does change fast

>>128106050
>You do realize the Chinese actually live in the same planet as us
Could you provide a source for this claim?

I guess he had to pay for his trips to Florida somehow.

>>128111823
>pol is one person
>pol has said that china is 3rd world and not a commie shithole
Nice try cidf

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>>128096304
>>128096304
>National Review is the biggest sensationalist news source for Trumpists.
damn you really know what you're talking about pic related

>>128110396
China and India are actually among the biggest victims of climate change, which is why they're pushing solar and other forms of renewable like no tomorrow. Sea levels are rising and leaving many homeless and poor, majority of the water in china is polluted and undrinkable and even the billionaires there have hard time avoiding all the air-pollution.

Considering how big of a country China is, it's actually amazing how fast they're implementing some of these changes and really progressing. United States is a joke in comparison.

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>>128111553
Acting like a complete chode isn't gonna make anyone listen to you, I can tell you that right now.

>>128109609
(((Scientific))) consensus? Are ypu talking about the research that is routinely faked?

Or maybe you're talking about that CERN experiment that conclusively proved that the weather is caused by neutrinos from the sun and not niggas breathing

>>128112103
>pol is not one person
>but China is totally one commie
you probably don't read China related thread much and I forgive you

>>128112349
>China and India are actually among the biggest victims of climate change, which is why they're pushing solar and other forms of renewable like no tomorrow.

They are doing this because the West/Middle East has a monopoly on oil. China and other competitors are trying to collapse the petrodollar which will destroy our economy; being a nation that is immune to such a collapse, however, will emerge as a dominant economic force. I'm drunk, but even I realize this:

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/forex/072915/how-petrodollars-affect-us-dollar.asp

>Since the most sought after commodity in the world--oil--is priced in U.S. dollars, the petrodollar helped elevated the greenback as the world's dominant currency. In fact, according to the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) triennial survey, 87 percent of all foreign exchanges deals initiated in April 2013, involved the USD on one side. With this status, the U.S. dollar was able to enjoy, what some have asserted to be an "exorbitant privilege" of perpetually financing its current account deficit by issuing dollar denominated assets at very low rates of interest, as well as, becoming a global economic hegemony.

The democrats have attempted to combat this with their green energy initiate, but it is too little, too late so to speak.

>>128106050
>You do realize the Chinese actually live in the same planet as us right?

Fuck off to >>>/x shill

>>128098676
Yeah, under Bush and Obama who can both take a flying leap off a cliff for all I care. They cost our nation a lot of money and lives. Trump is saving money. Deal with it. It's 2017.

>>128110173
Nature may as well be a fucking tabloid at this point. They constantly refute their own shit.
But why am I not surprised a cyclical denier would give a link to Nature?

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>>128102264
>Do you not understand how hard it is to get the entire globe to agree to do something about a problem?
You mean like eradicating smallpox? Or do you mean do things that make them all worse off in hopes of being better off a hundred years down the line? Now that one's not going to work.

>Exiting as this point just paints as a pariah.
To whom, exactly? Everyone hates the U.S. already, because it unilaterally does whatever it wants and then forces client states to support those actions in order justify them.

>The treaty
Was never ratified by the Senate and thus irrelevant.

>There is absolutely nothing wrong with paying off countries like China and India

Besides China being massively corrupt oligarchy run by people constantly looking for avenues to shift their wealth outside of China?

>Consider the transfer payments reparations for the damage we caused
No thanks.

>The USA is truly the most moronic country on the planet.
Feel free to leave and not return, my man.

>>128093744
So you're a bunch of refugee supporters?

No, seriously. With the Syrian clusterfuck, I see time and time again the argument that camps should be set up in and around Syria and that we Westerners should just pay aid to the camps to keep the refugees out. Fine, I agree with that.

But when it comes to the topic of spending money on an international climate change fund, which would do pretty much the same exact thing, people are gung ho about killing it? That's inconsistent, because it's almost like you want countless Ecuadoreans and Nicaraguans fleeing their 120 degree shithole and coming to the USA in droves. Or 120 degree shithole Algerians and Turks, take your pick. Or whatever islands get drowned by rising ocean levels. You're basically asking for a shitton of refugees to arrive on your shores instead of acutely localizing the problem (the reverse of the Syrian camp argument).

>inb4 "lol we'll just shoot them all"
like that happened the first time for Syria. bleeding hearts will let climate refugees into your country and there's nothing you dickless internet warriors will do about it.

>>128106460
>https://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/15/us/politics/obama-climate-change-fund-3-billion-announcement.html

>At a 2009 climate change summit meeting in Copenhagen, Hillary Rodham Clinton, then the secretary of state, pledged that by 2020 the United States would help mobilize $100 billion, through a combination of public aid and private investments, to flow annually from rich countries to help the poor economies deal with climate change.

$100b total, by 2020.

>>128112516
>china has a communist government in power
>china isnt communist
>pol has different people with different opinions being faggots
>pol isn one person
see where im getting at or are your eyes too squinted?

>>128113535
HONORABEL MEMBAHS:
>http://nytimes com/2014/11/15/us/politics/obama-climate-change-fund-3-billion-announcement.html
--> https://archive.is/X6PMn

>>128098163
sauce for that list?

>>128106050
Then they will reduce emissions or die. No need to pay them for something they should be obligated to do on their own.

>>128113548
okay brainlet, let me put it into words you can understand. Despite China has a communist party in charge, policies made by the party, interests and political views of the party members are still conflicted. I've read China related thread here for some time now, and I know /pol/acks, especially most american posters view on China, you can go ahead and say /pol/ is a board that has different point of view on China ignoring the fact many of them are quite out of touch regarding reality in China other than headlines they read on MSM and a few cherrypicked pics and vids spammed on this board

Will cost us a lot more when climate change causes serious economic damage and even Citibank agrees on that. Nice checkers, fags.

>>128108503
Invite some coal burners over

>>128096304
>Paris Agreement was a international treaty that requires no ratification by Congress.
Did you even pass middleschool gov class?