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Who was the best president in American history?

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My vote is Andrew Jackson

>btfo of natives and killed many of them for fucking with him
>paid off America's debt
>ended the (((federal reserve)))
>charged and then beat the shit out of the guy who tried to assassinate him with his cane
>challenged a man to a pistol duel for insulting him in the newspaper and during the duel he was shot in the chest and still won.

He was an absolute fucking alpha.
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>>128091920
Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton
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>>128091920
>Tfw no Andrew Jackson biography Starring Daniel Day directed by Michael Mann
I just watched Last of the Mohicans
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>>128091920
Washington. It isn't even close.
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>>128092188
The only one who didn't want it
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>btfo the natives a good thing

You're edgy as fuck. That proves his alpha nature, trail of tears and btfo the natives is not a good thing in itself. Edgy weirdo

Thomas Jefferson was the best president
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>>128092416
Death to natives!

He also cucked a man and fucked his wife. He's my hero,.
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>>128092416
go chug some more Listerine, fsggot
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James K. Polk
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>>128093154
Go eat some kale, leaf
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>>128093355
Weak.
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>>128092416
Jefferson, Polk, or Teddy Roosevelt for me.
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>>128093154
>>128092702
canada is fucked
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>>128093434
As opposed to chug some listerine? My shit is on steroids.

>>128093679
What's the deal with Polk? I never thought he was that memorable
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>>128093984
>I never thought he was that memorable
Huffing gasoline tends to hinder the memory.
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Martin Van Buren

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlZwzyxoS9A
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>>128094134
Do you like saying words that end in -ine?
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>>128091920
DONALD TRUMP may god bless him.
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>>128091920
jesus
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>>128093984
wanted to become president to do a few specific things; got in; did them marvellously, got out, refused to run for reelection.

great man.
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>>128094448
No. I like saying words that aren't part of a closed-mouth slurring that mumbles "More Beer"
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>>128094609
What did he do. What years were his presidency.
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>>128093984
>What's the deal with Polk? I never thought he was that memorable
Manifest destiny was achieved after he beat the shit out of Mexico.
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>>128091920
All Hail Action Jackson!
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Calvin Coolidge
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>>128093283
>border dispute with Mexico
>war declared
>offer quick peace treaty, Mexico refuses
>proceed to kick the shit out of Mexico
>start annexing Mexico
>stop halfway
>pay Mexico for new territory
>didn't even scoop up the prime railroad territory

Polk a cuck
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>>128091920
If you know your history, its Eisenhower. No debate
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>>128094609
kinda like Coolidge?
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>>128094829

this guy knows what's up
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are we gonna have another civil war
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>>128092416
You only say that because you've never had to deal with them.
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>>128091920
he's mine too. i wrote a huge report on him when i was in school. every assasin the bankers sent on him he beat with a cain.
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>>128094860

I would add that Andrew Jackson would never have stood for such a bad deal. He would've annexed the whole enchilada, then pushed the spics further south. Biggest missed opportunity in history.
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Probably Jackson because he took on the institution that is central to Jewish power (central banks) and was successful. And he was an all-around badass.
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>>128094609
Polk was a cuck.

He could've exterminated Mexicans after they declared war on America and lost but didn't If he did America wouldn't be 50% white today.
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>>128095190
Not really. I have dealt with them; they're conniving and greedy. BUT, btfo natives isn't a good thing in itself. Stop being edgy
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>>128095330
Stop being edgy. If you know enough to make your comments, you also know what happened at the negotiations that were attended by Polk's representative rather than Polk himself. He got stabbed in the back but it was too late to do much about it. Maybe id he broke his promise to serve only one term he could have rectified the situation but he was a man of his word.
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>>128095575
Yeah you've had to deal with one a year. In Canada they don't stay on their reserves like in America. They harass people drunk at 10am in the mall and public library where I live. They also beg for money and blame whitey for everything even though the Canadian government bends over backwards and let's their tribal chiefs fuck us in the ass.
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>>128091920
I have a pic for this occasion.
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>>128095895
Like I said, I don't care, the natives can be fuckin assholes, but u still don't just btfo a group of people cuz they deserve it.

Jackson "btfo the natives" because they were in the way of his presidency and goals. Which is fine. But to think Jackson was just btfo the natives cuz they were natives, that's edginess. Jackson also signed a bunch of treaties with natives and made a lot of deals with natives.
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>>128095763
Are you Mexican? Why are you defending the president who cucked you. Because of Polk not driving the spics deep into the depths of South America whites will be a minority in your country and eventually as spics become a majority socialist policies will be put into place and the 2nd amendment will be banned.
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Who was the worst? Teddy, LBJ, Obama?
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>>128096354
LBJ
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>>128096354

W deserves #1, Obama is #2

Best is Lincoln.
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>>128096354
Obama < LBJ < teddy
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>>128096354
>Teddy
>bad
>even remotely comparable to LBJ or Obama

you can fuck right off
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>>128096524
I forgot to mention Jimmy Carter he was fucking TERRIBLE.
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>>128095763

The why makes absolutely no difference, he knew it was a contentious issue that could(and did) determine the trajectory American history. What I described in my second post is historically what self-confident cultures do when they acquire rich land. There's no edge here, you're just anti-imperialist and probably a low-T manlet.
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>>128096199
>made a lot of deals with natives.

Yeah to get them the hell out of the East and onto reservations in Oklahoma.
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>>128093283
the correct answer.
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>>128096354
teddy considered bad

i will cut you you mother fucking faggot you're that same asshole who posts that teddy was bad in every president thread

teddy is easily in the top 5 presidents. His only downfall is he left the presidency to taft and then when he came back from his safari and tried to get it back he beat taft but split the vote and let the shill wilson in.
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>>128096949
This

Carter is objectively the worst behind maybe only LBJ

Carter was the first neocon president AND the first neoliberal president.

He was also the first president that was a total ignorant dipshit who had no idea what he was doing and was completely managed by his handlers.

Every president since Carter has been the same as him with only slight differences.
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>>128091920
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>>128096813
changed the the power structure of our country away from the states and centralized it in Washington led to a lot of the fuckery we have today. But I'll retract teddy and replace him with Carter. Carter was a fucking shit show.
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>>128091920
There is only one answer.
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>>128096949
>>128097214
Carter almost destroyed the USSR, but he cucked out halfway through because he caved in to the demands of farmers.
>stops exporting wheat to USSR
>slavs dying of starvation left and right
>commie bureaucrats feeling the pressure hard
>because he stopped the exporting wheat farmers pissed since they have a surplus of harvested wheat they can't do shit with
>farmers threaten to vote opposite
>Carter cucks out and USSR lasts another 10 years
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>>128097468
I love that man.
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>>128096354
FDR. He destroyed the country.
>Recover economy by spending 35% of GDP on war
>Forever have a war economy
>Neo Imperialism develops as we step into the foot print of the fallen empires
>Loss of the Republic to what we now call globalism due to our huge post WW2 footprint
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>>128096975
Not the only deals
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>>128097359
>Federalism being on open question after the Civil War

lol? The federal government won during the Civil War. What was left unfinished by Jackson was finished with Lincoln. It was inevitable. Secessionists aren't going to win without a massive fucking war where they get their entire state lit on fire.

New York and California are acting like they're going to secede now over Trump leaving the Paris agreement, I hope to god they actually try so LA gets firebombed.
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>>128091920
My vote for the last 100 is Eisenhower.
>Budget surplus
>NASA as non military
>highly beloved
>fuck Imperialism
>crossed partisan lines and got shit through Democrat controlled congress
>the fucking highways
>helped keep the middle class prosperous
>warned about the growing military industrial complex
But, overall, >>128092188 is right. Washington.
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>>128097185
>his only downfall is enabling the one motherfucker responsible for the Federal Reserve and the League of Nations
>said motherfucker also shifted the balance of power such that the Treaty of Paris shat all over Germany, creating the territorial conflicts that eventually led to WWII, wherein capitalism teamed up with communism to crush nationalism
>communism would go on to kill 100 million people while capitalism would go on to kill over 3000 years of European culture with free trade and open borders

I just realized that I hate Teddy Roosevelt.
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>>128098013
Last 100 years, that is.
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>>128098110
Nah we know you meant 100 presidents. Tell us about the next 35.
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>>128098097
>paris

God damn it. Versailles.
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>>128091920
While I very much admire Andrew Jackson, I think Dwight Eisenhower might be cut from the same cloth.

-married 50+ years to same woman
-led invasion of Normandy and was Supreme (Gentelman) Allied Commander of Allied forces in WW2 (killed Nazies)
-President of Columbia University (pre-jew)
-authors interstate bill (other niggers talk about infrastructure but this nigger did it)
-fights commies like a motherfucker all while ushering in America's golden age of technology and prosperity
-member at Augusta National

Dwight is my nigger. Love that guy.
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>>128091920
Shut the fuck up, retard. Canadians don't know shit. Here's the real greatest president, I'll fucking fight anyone who disagrees
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>>128097848
>saving the economy is destroying it

The only thing FDR really did wrong was side with the fucking commies/Brits instead of the good guys.
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>>128098277
he cheated on his wife with one woman iirc

still pretty based
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>>128098570
Name a president who was 100% faithful while in office.
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>>128091920
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>>128098570
Before Feminism, every man had a mistress. Or any man with status.
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>>128098463
>saving the economy is destroying it
Yes. Saving it short term through war only to sow the seeds of the military industrial complex Eisenhower warned about. Because we needed war for profit we became more and more globalist until we woke up in the shit show we're trying to fix now.
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Obviously
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>>128098888
We didn't though

Eisenhower proved you can spend the money on infrastructure and national improvements and still have a great economy

Just look at the US interstate highway system which was a direct copy of the highway system Eisenhower saw in Germany during WW2
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>>128098888
Look at yem digits. It's like a double Hitler.
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>>128098013
Fuck him. He joined the war and btfo of /ourguys/ the Japanese and Nazis.
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>>128096695
Lincoln suspended Habeas corpus. That makes him one of the worst desu.
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>>128098277
>Killing Nazis is a good thing
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Calvin Coolidge had our economy roaring. Greatest period of wealth creation in the history of the world. If I could spend a few days in any place at any time in the history of the world, I'm taking NYC in roaring 20s every time.
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>>128092080

This.
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>>128099684
It was the federal reserves artificially low interest rates that had the economy, not really Coolidge doing it
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>>128099329
Can't judge if serious or just a leaf.
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Fuck yeah op thanks for noticing before we get redacted!!!
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>>128098463
are (((wall street bankers))) the good guys because they helped financed the nazis, and FDR BTFO'd them as well
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>>128099207
>We didn't though
I don't think you understand how American Imperialism works anon.
>MIC wants all the money it can get
>lobbies for war and intervention over seas
>entangling alliances ensue
>other countries bullied and blackmailed into servitude
>their corrupt leadership gives American business and finance sweat heart deals that amount to robbery
>all this is backed by our fuck huge military that slaps down everyone that steps out of line
>business, finance and MIC are now one due to mutual interests and are controlled by jews
Now on this timeline we're only roughly in the 1960's. I could go on.
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>>128092080
If this happened and she ended the fed would /pol/ forgive her for running a pedo ring?
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Daily reminder that the bank Andrew Jackson shut down was created by James Madison.
Daily reminder that James Madison was a globalist in disguise.
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Richard Nixon is the only good answer also he is not a crook.
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>>128095895
Winnipeg bro? Hahaha
>know them feels
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>>128100258
Too many if's to follow
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>>128100288
But the first bank was created by George Washington
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>>128100164
That has nothing to do with the economy though

Imperialism only helps a few CEOs mainly in finance and defense.

The real economy isn't helped at all by imperialism. In fact it's hurt. Turning the Pacific into "America's Lake" just meant companies would be free to outsource to China.
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>>128091920
Did you hear about those Hispanic bounty hunters?

Those are the kinds of people you need to be praising.
You might not be into Hispanics because of the immigration thing but that is pretty cowboy.
That type of person belongs in the USA
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>>128099855
He significantly reduced taxes, regulations, decentralized government. That played a role as well.
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>>128100510
the BUS(Bank of the United States) was far superior to the FED

I have no idea why people hate it it was a solid nationalist institution.

>>128100594
fuck off Jorge

how the fuck did you get into the UK?
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>>128094860
What are you talking about, Polk was the only president to ever deliver on all his campaign promise. He didn't even run again because he knew he did what he was elected for
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Who was the greatest american to never hold political office? As in contributions to our society/quality of life.

Ford, Edison, Gates?
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>implying Teddy, Eisenhower, and Jackson werent all top-tier
Only assmad libertarians bash on Teddy because they dont understand the concept of protecting basic consumer and worker rights because muh free market.
The only other way they can say he was a shit president is by pointing to stuff he did after his presidency was over.
But, honestly, I do think Eisenhower was the best president, as not only did he do everything right, he ended on a high note calling out the (((Military-Industrial Complex))), and was the perfect mix of free market capitalism and state-sponsored economic stimulation
>people love to bash on Teddy for federalism but seemingly forget Jackson and everything he did involving nullification
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>>128101528
Henry Clay
George S Patton
Alexander Hamilton
Henry Carey
Henry George

Lots of Henrys
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>>128100534
>that has nothing to do with the economy though
Looting other countries of their wealth and resources has everything to do with the economy.
>Imperialism only helps a few CEOs mainly in finance and defense.
And the people who work in those sectors as well as everyone they interact with economically.
>The real economy isn't helped at all by imperialism. In fact it's hurt. Turning the Pacific into "America's Lake" just meant companies would be free to outsource to China.
Yes, that has been the end result. However, things didn't get that way overnight. It just so happens that they're now looting the American people to keep their thralls in line. I'll continue.
>Commies complain about evil American Imperialism
>Jews and MIC decide to stroke the ego's of browns and blacks while picking their pockets
>Here comes multiculturalism and civil rights
>See? We're all equal, let the exploitation continue
>Start horse whipping white people morally and ethically to placate the darkies at home and abroad
>The good times continue to roll until the end of the Soviet Union
>With the inability of the US post 9/11 to bully multiple nations at once due to entanglements in Iraq and Afghanistan the thralls to the Yiddish world order became restless as the US lacked the assets to keep them all in line
>Corrupt leaders throughout the world began to demand more and more concessions from our ruling class to continue business as usual
>we became those concessions
>they shipped off our jobs and stripped us of our wealth and took their cut in the process all while demonizing us as evil racists to add a moral cover to their theft
>As our leadership weakened under Obama more and more nations began to take advantage of us in every arena they could
>The elites happily peddled away what they could of our inheritance as long as they could find benefit
>Wall street bloomed and main street withered
>You are here
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>>128101540
It's hilarious how libertarians worship Jackson, yet Jackson was the biggest Federalist on earth.

And there's literally nothing wrong with Federalism.
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>>128096199
>but u still don't just btfo a group of people cuz they deserve it.
scalp yourself already
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>>128092702
I fucked a Native from Canada when i was in vegas 2 years ago. /pol/ Pls forgib
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>>128101825
I hope this list is for lulz. Henry George!?
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>>128102007
>Looting other countries of their wealth and resources has everything to do with the economy.

No really. It makes a few globalist CEOs rich and that's it

>as well as everyone they interact with economically.

But since they are "global citizens" their money goes everywhere and anywhere, not necessarily into the US.

> inability of the US post 9/11 to bully multiple nations at once due to entanglements in Iraq and Afghanistan

So far the US has been very successful in bullying and destroying Middle East countries at Israel's behest

But that hasn't helped the US economy at all. If anything it just wastes tax money on bullshit.

>more and more nations began to take advantage of us in every arena they could
>Wall street bloomed and main street withered

But that's been the story of America since Jimmy Carter. Even Obama pointed that out once in his infamous "muh Bible's and guns" speech.

He acknowledged that America has been looted since Carter, and he not only approved of it, he explicitly called whites racist for resenting it.

>>128102751
problem?

Georgism was a very important and influential movement that continued the cause of Jeffersonian agrarianism long after Jefferson died.
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>>128100427
Ya. Fuck natives.
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>>128101528
Barry Goldwater
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>>128102007
>Looting other countries of their wealth and resources has everything to do with the economy.

You went a trillion into debt for Iraq and once you had access to the oil fields you gave it up to China, and other European countries who sent over a few hundred troops for like a month of the war.

The only one it helps is jews, you didn't loot ANYTHING in reality.
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>>128103234
>No really. It makes a few globalist CEOs rich and that's it
Today, but not always. Back when used to just loot Central and South America a lot of the company holdings of the enterprises involved in it made it into the pockets of normal folks. And the military made that possible by the way. Who do you suppose it is that lobbies for that kind of thing? Many documented cases of US intervention back then. We do the same today on a larger scale.
>But since they are "global citizens" their money goes everywhere and anywhere, not necessarily into the US.
These days it goes into the hands of the investment class (global) in general and the jews in particular.
>So far the US has been very successful in bullying and destroying Middle East countries at Israel's behest
Do you suppose we posed a credible threat to China at the time? Remember your chart.
>But that hasn't helped the US economy at all.
It helped GDP due to economic activity. If you consider that useful.
>If anything it just wastes tax money on bullshit.
Not a penny was wasted. It all went into the pockets of well positioned war profiteers like Haliburton. Remember, we are the concession. Our blood guards the Chinese mining outfits in Afghanistan. What do you suppose the Chinese traded away for that?
>But that's been the story of America since Jimmy Carter.
You're very right.
>he not only approved of it, he explicitly called whites racist for resenting it.
Of course, it gives them moral sanction to loot us and shields them from repercussions of their actions with an army of useful idiots who want to "smash racism."
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>>128103979
>Be American
>die in Iraq fighting for Israel and British Petroleum

life really is a joke

I voted for Trump because I had the faintest hope he would try to change things.
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>>128103979
>You went a trillion into debt for Iraq
Yes, I'm sure that made the elite a trillion richer at the expense of the Americans they looted don't you think?
>once you had access to the oil fields you gave it up to China, and other European countries who sent over a few hundred troops for like a month of the war.
Sounds like a bad deal. Maybe I was right and our elite resorted to looting Americans and placating foreign powers due to their weakened position. Thanks for making my point.
>The only one it helps is jews, you didn't loot ANYTHING in reality.
That was my point. We're being looted today to feed our elite who use us as a bargaining chip. In the past we looted others. Perhaps you confused my past and present tense in my posts?
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>>128101825
>George S Patton
Being a decent military leader does not mean you'll be a good civilian leader. Not to mention that after MacArthur. Patton would have been literally the worst American General from WW2 to be president
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>>128104786
Maybe it wouldn't have been as bad if you didn't give up the oil fields.
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>>128091920

Why do identical threads pop up so often and with such proximity? Feels like data mining.
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>>128104761
>Back when used to just loot Central and South America a lot of the company holdings of the enterprises involved in it made it into the pockets of normal folks.

No they didn't. Those companies weren't even employing Americans they were employing Mexicans for a few cents an hour.

>It helped GDP due to economic activity

Which is meaningless if that money when that money just gets recycled into international finance and not the real economy

>well positioned war profiteers

Who again, are global corporate entities. Tax payer money went from the people into the global petro dollars system, and there's no reason to think it ever came back.

>>128105183
He wouldn't have glibly handed China over to the communists, I can tell you that.
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Coolidge, hands down.
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>>128101369
>muh promises

Promises don't count for shit, you myopic faggot. He missed the single greatest opportunity to strengthen the South against Northern meddling while vastly expanding the natural resources of the nation.

On the other hand, maybe you're right. Maybe the whole point of being a good leader is to accomplish exactly what you set out to do without any sense of greater vision or cognizance of one's place in history. Expend only the effort necessary to induce a procedurally sufficient number of people to support you, and no more. If it means you miss out on the glory of conquest, sets the stage for your daughters to be raped as they're dragged out of their burning homes by a bunch of God Damned Yankees imposing the latest ism on your people, and enables niggers to play-act as human beings so they can spit on your grave and erase your history 150 years after the fact, so be it.

Polk is not a cuck.
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>>128091920
Andrew Jackson is the best due to his goals for the country but many weren't accomplished and he was constantly fucked over by bankers and other compromised politicians. Theodore (Not Franklin, though) is definitely the best out of his sheer effectiveness.
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>>128105787
China was lost by the time the US could have intervened. Not to mention that Patton couldn't have gotten elected if he had he even tried
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>>128105787
>No they didn't.
Not even stateside? Surely you jest. And it wasn't just Mexico.
>Which is meaningless if that money when that money just gets recycled into international finance and not the real economy
Do you know the old joke about GDP? The one with two men walking through the woods. So, what is the real economy to you? I'm curious.
>Who again, are global corporate entities.
That's the facade, but remember corporations exist to bring profit to investors. It isn't corporations, but the money lenders in the investment class behind them.
>Tax payer money went from the people into the global petro dollars system
This is a curious statement. After the investment class got their tax payer provided war profits you think they transferred it into the petro dollar?
>there's no reason to think it ever came back.
Nothing comes back. We're all fattened up and harvested with each boom bust cycle. Jews lend us more money than the system can ever pay back to make us productive during the boom and then contract the financial market to cull us of the useful, real goods we create like homes and businesses with each bust. And we do it all for an illusion. Strange world isn't it?
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>>128096318
disagree... how do I know I'm right? central americans and other ugly brown people are making their way to canada now. These people do not care how far the journey. They want GIBS and they want the gibs NOW
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>>128098718
>>128101528
His Grace, the Imperial Majesty on the Iron Throne, the Immortal God-Emperor of Mankind, Donaldus I of the House of Trump
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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