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CALIFORNIA YES! SB562 passed, $400B/year in costs + new 28% tax rate

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>$400 billion a year
>CA current budget is $140 billion
>x3 increase
>15% state tax increase to pay for it
>current income tax revenue $80 Billion
>add 15% with new tax $102 Billion in revenue
>going to running a deficit of 50% or more of revenue
>goodbye california

Previous Thread >>128075262

>inb4 A
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We're coming to TEXAS and you can do nuffin bout it
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>>128088117
Is there a non-liberal state what is good for Computer Science and Engineering jobs?

I love California but I fucking hate our government and big cities
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so that 15% is apparently a worst case it assumes nos savings from buying meds in bulk amount 10 other sources of saving.

Does anybody have the actual cost as passed today? Not the theoretical worst case 0 tax revenue existing scneario
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>>128088443
This. I was the anon from last thread that is going to school for EE @ a public uni in CA. I'm milking this shit state
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>>128088117
>Illegals are fully covered

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what serious economist is advising them to increase their budget threefold from one fiscal year to the next?
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>>128088117
Posting from last thread so I am going to same fag in this thread. We need to realize what's going on.
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For those of us looking to leave CA, how much time do you think we have left before selling off assets will have to be done at a loss, or not at all?
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>>128088462
They're saying it's going to cost $400B, but $200B will be funded by (((savings)))

That's still +$200B and realistically the original $400B pricetag is an underrepresentation
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Stop bullying California
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>>128088602
Who will pay for welfare when the white people and the Asians leave?
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>>128088426
Good, Libshits go away and ruin that shithole while California turns red. Winwin.
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Gentlemen be sure to give credit to this anon right here:>>128078945
Notice anything about the flag of California?
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Why did this get passed and why was I unable to have a say in it?
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>>128088833
C U T E
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post yfw Commiefornia ends up building a wall to keep people from fleeing their collapsing state
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One more post. For any fags out there that want the post of the proficey here
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I'm just here until I get software engineering experience under my belt and I'm out. Back to Florida I go with a career to build on.
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>>128088833
>>128088942
C U T E
U U
T T
E E
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>>128088833
I literally care more about your sitting Cat than i do about california.

Don't mind flag.
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>>128088644
They're not by threefold, but they do intend to jack up taxes by a superton. It's wild.
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>>128088426
fuck off we're full
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Can someone spoofed me how bad this is? This seems extremely bad.
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>>128088709

as soon as your house passes it you're fucked
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>>128088939
You voted for the dems
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>>128088937
Notice how you're a batshit conspiracy theorist? Kek, I bet you believe aliens are real too.
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>>128089392
They won't pass it. They don't have the balls. They never put their money where their mouth is.
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>>128089356
more taxes at the expense of paco not having diabetus
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They'll go bankrupt and the rest of us will have to bail them out. Fuck this system where the powerful get away with everything and the rest of us suffer the consequences of their mistakes.
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>>128088426
Go somewhere else you fucking commies. You've already ruined Austin
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>>128089527
Illegals voted for dems. Whites would never allow this.
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>>128089356
Extremely bad. You can't have socialism with open borders. California about to be in a major budget shortfall. At least we'll get to see more dams break.
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What do you expect from Commies?
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>>128090033
this flag hurts my feelings super bad
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>>128088426
Bring your guns California! HAHAHA!
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> The committee’s analysis projected that the statewide plan would cost $400 billion annually, half of which would likely need to come from workers and businesses through a 15 percent payroll tax.

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/05/31/universal-health-plan-would-save-californians-37-billion-and-cover-more-people-study-finds/
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>>128089747
North Cali hates Southern Cali because Southern Cali votes full libtard while North Cali is only slight libtard.
This is why North Cali moves to Oregon and complains about all the damn Califags in Oregon.
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>>128089107
>mfw they've already started to build a net to stop their citizens from offing themselves on a state landmark

Jesus where are their priorities?
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>The bear leaves it's cave forever.
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>>128088443
Texas, Montana, Utah.
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>>128090159
State of Jefferson when?
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>>128090159
The OC has voted Republican until this election, faggot. And guess why.
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>>128088602
ALL CALIFORNIANS SIGN UP FOR ICE
I REPEAT,
ALL CALIFORNIANS SIGN UP FOR ICE
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>>128090236
>I believe in retarded conspiracy theories unironically *tips tinfoil*
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>>128088117
>bankrupt liberal shithole
>ludicrous high cost of living
>insanely high taxes on everything
>can't even maintain nor repair infrastructure
>concentration of liberal commies now think they can do commie healthcare and force it on everyone in the state
>Californians are already leaving in droves infecting nearby states

The Pacific can't swallow California soon enough.
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>>128090159
One can only wonder why socal stabs American-Cali interests in the back. It can't be mass illegal voter fraud because that is a myth... I'm at a loss.
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>>128088117
Maybe (((they))) are doing this in an attempt to tank our economy, because
california has to get that money somewhere. That somewhere is most likely the place where the other states borrow their money. This is economic suicide with purpose.
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As with most government price tags; this one will show it's true costs as time progresses. The amount of people and resources that will be used will climb dramatically; over time, putting even greater pressure on the backs of the current tax payers.
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>>128089660
>>128089848
Looks like I'm moving to CA. Anyone wanna be roommates?
#refugeeswelcome
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Communists infest and ruin the nicest place on earth. Good job
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>>128088426
This desu
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How long do I have before the inevitable shitstorm
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Doesn't California still get federal aid? Why are they talking shit to Trump and planning projects that are way over budget? What's to stop the federal government from pulling the aid?
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>>128090526
They'll all flee once it collapses - probably best to try and speed that process up. Likewise, running out the illegals will do the job. This bill won't pass because CA republicans wisely set a 2/3rd requirement on any tax increase a few decades back. If the California GOP cucks to this (they are usually pretty good at standing their ground) then the state is fucked.
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>>128088117
they even used a nigger achieving to complete the liberal fantasy. free healthcare and niggers not nigging
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>>128088426
FUCK YOU NIGGERS STAY IN YOUR SHITHOLE YOU CREATED


REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Is it true that this will redirect money already spent on private healthcare into a state system? if so, how much is currently being paid into private hands?
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>>128090159
Is southern California liberal due to immigrants coming from the southern border illegally?
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>>128090159
>north cali
you mean the bay area?
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>>128088117
Goodbye Silicon Valley. Hope you guys can find a home somewhere else.

This is good, the Republicans of California will leave and go to other states, bringing their votes with them while leaving California as a liberal wasteland.
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>>128090222
is he the happiest ex-president?
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>>128090899
Yes, hence why ICE needs more enforcers and needs to be strengthened, especially in California.
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>>128090899
Don't forget California used to go red until Reagan Gave a bunch of Mexishits amnesty.
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>>128088117
Congrats, (((leftists))). Popcorn at the ready to watch your fantasy land collapse.
>pic related
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>>128090125
>JUST FUCK MY BUDGET UP
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>>128091049
Would be nice if the tech industry could move to a place that doesn't have a ridiculously high cost of living.
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>>128090391
sign up for ice? are you riff raff?
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Bump this thread when the eurocucks are awake so they can tell you universal healthcare is a right and saying it is too expensive is like saying let's cut the police and fire brigade because they are too expensive.
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>>128088833
This desu. This plan is untenable, especially if there is a mass exodus (myself included) as a result of it.
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>>128091049
I'm betting on Chattanooga.
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>>128088602
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>>128088426
today i remembered why i love snow again
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>>128088426
RIP Texas and all surrounding states. This might be good for my properties in Las Vegas. So many Californians are about to move to Las Vegas, North Las Vegas, and Henderson now. Maybe the housing boom won't end up hurting us since people will need everything that's been developing lately. Hopefully the Raiders stadium will do some good too.
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The citizen's of California would be dumb not to utilize the service given how they're paying for it. This is going to drive up the consumption--demand--for medical supplies. Now to solve the over consumption problem; prices in the system will have to rise; prices on doctors, equipment, and drugs. If the government comes in and tries to fix prices on the goods and services provided; they're just going to create long wait lists or deal with shortages on resources
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>>128090574
next fiscal year, but if you own a home sell it now. too bad every other house is already for sale. boomers cashing in on return to 08 prices.
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>>128091193
Silicon Valley will stay in SF, just that coders are going to demand $500K instead of $400K now and they'll have to pay it

If you think for even a picosecond that any people are going to go from $300-1M+ USD to $52K CAD (38K USD) in Canada w/ particle-board cuckshacks going for $5M you are fucking delusional
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>>128090574
Your state has been a shit storm. Get a job at ICE and try to salvage your home
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>>128088117
It's nice to see States using their own power to do things like they use to. So many libtards want to marginalize the State power and think a big Fed is the only way to go.
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>>128089700
>California cucks come to Ausitn
>Landlord "That will be will a gorillion dollars a month for rent"
>Californian "wow, that's pretty cheap for where I come from"
>Austin rent gets even worse
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hey califags, i thought you were going to secede because you pay so much more in federal taxes than you get in federal spending. why don't you all stay there and collectively kys?
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>>128091398
The majority of whites in Commiefornia vote left. Fuck them to hell when they try to escape after pushing the state get taken over by communists.
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>>128088117
Have gun, will not travel.
BRING IT BACK!
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>>128091631
I live south of you,this x100
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>>128091780
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>>128091587
Ew no, who the fuck would want to move to Vancouver, except rich Asians?

Anyways, I'm talking about companies leaving, not just the individuals. The workers will just move with the companies. I could see Apple turning their Austin campus into their headquarters if this passes.
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>>128089700
Pfft, Austin? Try most of the state. Living in San Antonio makes me want to off myself.
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>>128092221
I haven't had any problems with them here in the Dallas area yet but people are moving here. Makes trying a buy a house a real bitch
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>>128091822
that map appears very accurate.

>>128091944
>setting: vancouver, 2000
sauce? subs?
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>>128091587
You a GTA fag or something? I also wasn't talking about them coming to Canada retard, just going to another state in a city that isn't so needlessly expensive.
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>>128088426
HAHAHA YO ARE THE IDIOT WITH SMALL SKULL YOU ARE CALI STINK DOG
YOU LAUGH MY ASSHOLEHAHA HAHAHAHAHAH DEADBEAT CALIFAG
2014 CALIFORNIA STEAL WEST US CLAY GIVE IT BACK YOU MUST GIVE BACK OUR RIGHTFUL CLAY TEXAS+ARIZONA+COLORADO+UTAH=FUCK YO UCALIFORNIA
we kill the mexican horses you will never find the texan horses you have 1 chance to give back the clay
WHERE IS THE CLAY
ww3 we kill 400 californian tanks
FUCK YOU CALIFORNIA YO ARE THE SHIT STATE YOU LIVE IN THE YUPPIE ZOO ANIMALS. HAHAHAHAHHAHA
DEAR CALIFORNIA GOVERNOR, I SHIT FROM THE HIGHEST CHIMNEY TO YOUR MOUTH. YOU ARE THE GAY GOVERNER. I KILL YOUR HORSE
I WILL DIE FOR WEST AMERICA. I DO NOT FEAR THE LIBERAL YUPPIE WIZARD. I WILL NOT AFRAID
fuck los anglese fuck sacromento a n sandjoser fuck you too portland, califaggot ass..ARNOLD.. SOCER
texas has wisdom of the falcon.
GO BACK TO YUPPIE SHITHOLE....HAHAHAHAHAHHA FUCK U CALIFORNIA
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>>128088117
>>CA current budget is $140 billion
And how much people are paying for healthcare on top of that you retard?
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>>128088117
Justice for all the pedos. Enjoy your angry Mexishit hordes.
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>>128091944
going to need sauze
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>>128092549
Any city with a spic name, as well as Houston and especially Austin, is fucked to hell. Dallas has niggers but I still reckon it's better than the rest of the state.
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>>128092793
best pasta this thread. almost saved
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>>128088117
Doesn't California have Legal Marijuana? If they increase the Tax on that they might be able to avoid a mass exodus of jobs and wealth.
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>>128088443
You could check out jobs in Las Vegas and surrounding area (North Las Vegas and Henderson). Our city has been expanding very rapidly, and with every new/current corporate business, small business, start up business, casino/hotel, and expansion of current casinos/hotels, they are bound to need people in your field. I'm pretty sure that talented people in your field are needed and that there aren't a huge amount of them here already. Tons of locals don't get 4 year degrees or any degree. Transplants are a big part of our city, and now that it's really expanding and turning into a desirable place to stay, it's not a bad idea for anyone to look into moving here. Our cost of living is outrageously low.
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>>128092921
that's it, i'm busting out full autist powers for this one.
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>>128092921
>A zoology student must try to out smart a murderous and super-intelligent orangutan.
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>>128089159
Anyone who lives or lived in California will not escape the Day of the Rope. Any amount of time has tainted your bloodline beyond saving.
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A map of GDP per capita of different states in the US. (this map is from 2012)

The 11 poorest states all had republican governors.

And don't say its because of blacks, West virginia is 90% white and they are one of the poorest
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>>128091944
>>128092921
>>128093276
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTkKYq7BipM

>description
What's the missing link?

In this Hollywood cult classic Doctor Shue unveils all the similarities between humans and monkeys as 2 of the most important living creatures on Earth.

Heartbreaking story, really. Strong performances, both human and animal. And the nudes were also great!

What's the smartest animal, the ape or the dolphin? The panda, some may say. What do you think? Will humans be able to talk to chimps by the year 2010?

Anyways, great movie. I love Hollywood, much better film production than the russian one.
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>>128089107
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>>128093276
see
>>128093322

>what is google 'monkey horror movie 1980s'

kek approved.
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Federal government better not bail these fuckers out
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>nevada never mentioned
perfect
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>>128091193
.. that's just about everywhere else in the US except maybe NYC.
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>>128088117
What's /pol/'s excuse going to be when everything works out fine and Californians have free healthcare while they have to pay out the ass in their state whenever something goes wrong?
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>>128093564
Wew lad. Your autism is full autobahn.
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>>128091822
It becomes clear who we should have never allowed to vote.
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>>128088117
Cloward Pivon in full affect
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>>128090159
>North Cali is only slight libtard
o i am laffin'
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>>128093843
>C-C-Commiefornia!!11
That's what.
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>>128089540
...you don't?
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>>128093561
What is the point you're trying to make? Are you in the wrong thread?
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>>128093952
Spics? Absolutely.
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>>128093843
Thing is it'll work for a bit, but will collapse not too long after. It'll be championed by socialist as to why they are the best. Then when it inevitably fails they'll say they didn't do it right and capitalism fucked it up. Then we laugh at them.....AGAIN

Just like they did with Venezuela
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the sad thing is I bet this budget will actually succeed. All of California's state tax money comes from Silicon Valley and the (((movie industry))). Both are rife with virtue signaling clucks. You also have sports industry niggers. All of which more than happy to pay for dem programs no matter the cost!

Then states around the country will try to copy them.
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>>128093564
but wait there's more!
>>128093846
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4ae_1358223410&comments=1

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091415/
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>>128093709
They'll have to when the state inevitably calls for bankruptcy won't they?
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>>128088117
so is this why i got a notice of increased sales taxes from the FTB? god i need to get out of this shithole ASAP
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>>128093843
I don't live in California, I pay 70 bucks a month for great healthcare.

It's not that fucking bad. It really isn't. Then the government comes along with the good ol' "if we don't provide it, no one will have it!" Bullshit
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>>128088117
can we just nuke these cali fags already? god i hate them.
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>>128088443
Utah has a surprisingly large amount of software development jobs.
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mfw Cali has to crack down on Texans or Arizonians pretending to be from their shithole state in order to get free healthcare
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>>128088855
thats not how it works.
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>>128093561
Turns out wages drop when you send all of your heavy industries to the 3rd world.
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>>128092921
>>128092588

>wanting to see Daniel-san's gf fucked by a money

degenerate.
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Fuck Norcal
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>>128090392
conspiracy theories are never true anon
-(((your friend public service announcement)))
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Wow smooth fucking sailing California you just had to make it 15% more expensive to live here what could go wrong?
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>>128094214
Yeah this. Mines out of pocket like $82. Insurance is fine if you work and aren't a NEET
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>>128091944
A typical day in Oakland.jpg
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>>128092793

damnit you could've included the tupac part, would've been 100/10
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>>128094407
This
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>>128091822
>Hispanic
I have never seen a Hispanic vot graph broke by country of Origin.
Fucking mexiMonos shitting all up
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>>128089134
I assumed the bear was Russia but it could reference Cali's flag. Calexit/Callapse
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>>128094386
>not degenerate
i required sauce for cultural enrichment
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>>128093843
The actual healthcare isn't free in the least, it's paid from the pocketbooks of every person that is taxed in California. Once enough people leave this shithole, it's through. Done in by simple math.
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>>128092793
At least Arnold fried Tookie.

t. Called Save-Tookie Crisis Hotline and requested to purchase his eyeballs so I could eat them and having some negrees chimp out on the phone
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We have a socialized police force that runs into bullets to save an American citizens life.
We have a socialized fire department that runs into a burning building to save a persons life.

But you get the flu and it's "fuck you pay me, fuck off and die".
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Holy Jesus fucking Christ this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard, and I've lived in California my entire life. This is a disaster. Our economy is completely fucked.

Time to go. It's time to gtfo, holy shit fuck this.
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Does no one in California understand how to do math? How can they legally pass a budget that will run in the negatives?
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>>128088443
this
I'm living the Bay
traffic is insane
roads are shit
bart sucks
and high taxes getting worse
fuck this
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>>128093488
Well I know one anon who is welcome to suck some lead from my Calishnikov
Kys.
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This is pretty interesting. The rumblings of universal healthcare have been around for a while now, but if there's any state that can really prove its potential, it would be California. I'm optimistic about this.
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>>128095114
see
>>128091780
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>>128091398

That's exactly why they're doing this.

>https://archive.is/WSfOC

They are sacrificing California on the altar so that its people can drag down the rest of the country with it.
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>>128094958
Don't come to OR.
Do. Not. Fucking. Come. Here.

I'm sick of you California fucks realizing that your state is shit, coming here and then voting in a way to make this state more like California aka shit
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>>128095332
>Iowa
Ya, if you really love convoluted and insane taxes and fees come here, sure.
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>>128095338
Don't be retarded dude, I'm a Republican. There are millions of us here, we're just swamped by spics.
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>>128095114
You made your bed, honorary subhuman. Now sleep in it. Forever.
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>>128088443
No worries, industry is going to flee California after this shitstorm.
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>>128095338
don't worry
we don't want to leave cali to end up in oregon
same shit, less tech
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>>128089107
Looks like I left just in time
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>>128095253
Because in spite of the numerous and loud Libtards that pollute my fair land, i declare this land is my land and I will not fucking budge an inch.
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California just killed themselves! BAHAHAHAHA
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>>128095586
It's not even an official law yet and Brown will probably just veto it holy shit ~calm down~
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GOD FUCKING DAMMIT

We need to petition Abbot to build a western wall
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>>128095338
At this rate the only places left will be the middle northern states in the areas that are too cold for non whites and liberal pussies. I've accepted this. In the next decade I will move way north to an (nearly) all white, christian, conservative area. I'll stockpile, garden when it's warm enough, and order everything I need so I can be a hermit when it's cold.
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>>128095496
Sounds like a liberal paradise...
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>>128095683
What happens is you fags get rich then decide to move here because we didn't (emphasis on DIDN'T) use to charge usurious rent. Now the only affordable real estate in Portland is housing surrounded by niggers.
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>>128095821
Kill yourself you libshit caliphate in denial
FUCK I hope Houston or DFW gets nuked
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>>128093952
Yep. That cat is out of the bag though. Only thing we have now is to educate women by everyone off the tap of communist education. The only short term solution left NEVER giving amnesty (not creating more dem voters) and closing borders.
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>>128095968
t. Louisiana
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>>128096018
>*by getting everyone off the tap of communist education
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>>128095533
Yes I asked to be born here. I stayed for the mountains.
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>>128088117
Oh my god I realized why they did this now. Once liberals see how high taxes are they will move to cheap red states where they will in turn vote democrat. SHIT!
We're fucked because they fucked themselves. WHAT THE FUCK!
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>>128095961
and you all happily took that money
there's always two in a deal
don't worry, I'm done with the west coast
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>>128089134
>three branches become one
The three branches of the government merge into a singular executive branch? Habeas corpus gets suspended, etc.
>island will drift away
Brexit, assuming.
>star will gorge itself on clay
Israel expands
>idols will speak and move about
Hollywood, celebrities. Nothing new there.
>black flag over dome
ISIS gets control over the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem.
>rock will stand on seven hills
The stone in Islam, the city of seven hills is either Jerusalem or Rome.
Bear leaving the cave would either be Russia emerging as a super power again, or California trying to leave the Union. The rod and ring striking means some royalty will make their country get up in arms. Maybe the king of Sweden will finally have enough?
Can't think of what the other stuff means off the top of my head. Need to think on it.
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>>128093272
>las Vegas
Fuck that nogger haven. California dumped its nogger onto that state 25 years ago.
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>>128095502
If you promise to never vote for left politicians or leftist ideologies you can come, but 99% of you clucks can't be trusted to keep yourselves from culturally annexing our state.
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Hasn't even passed idiots. Even if it did, the Gov would have to sign it (and he is against any big deficit spending) and voters would have to approve it and the federal govt would have to approve using federal funds in a different manner

http://archive.is/QEZ4m
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>>128095338
Born in OR....shithole ruled by Portland. Been here in CA for 20 years. Thank god the Bay Area has discoverd Portland and Eugene.
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>>128096047
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeslE3_fEvY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B60EolNkXc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TBOt6HzH3g
At this rate I'm going to have to keep a masterlist of videotaped examples of your state being a disgusting fucking shithole that won't be voting Repub for much longer.
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>>128094055
>>128093843
Nothing, because it won't happen. The money is not there. This is a suicidal move.
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>>128095715
that just may be the most based thing i've ever heard a califag say. God speed! I must admit you've got balls. I left a cucked state for an uncucked one. loving my new state and telling cucks "we're full."
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>yfw not califag
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>>128088937
If this was part of the foretold, I doubt this is "the bear leaving it's cave" as the US, in relations to California, isn't really a cave. Now to me what would be more likely for this to represent, if California is the bear in this, is San Andreas finally destroying the state. being underwater isn't the same as being in a cave.
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>>128095208
As someone in communist Quebec, I can tell you how shit-tier health care is. Some may justify these increased costs as
>muh increased quality of life
>muh everyone is happier

First off, taxes. Quebec has a sales tax of 14.975% (5% federal + 9.975% Quebec).

Then we have income taxes. Over $103K CAD ($76K USD) you're paying 51% in Quebec. Top marginal is 58.75% tax. Capital Gains/Interest income (including rent) are taxed at your marginal.

Keep in mind in Canada the average salary is $29K. Average household income is $50-60K CAD ($35-45K USD).

Now for the benefits.

You call an ambulance because you have an emergency. They come hours later, won't administer any that aren't (((life saving))) drugs unless you sign a fucking form promising to pay.

Once you get to the ER, it can be 12-24H+ until you see an ER physician.

You get billed for $45 for the ambulance.

Won't cover any lifesaving treatment over $50K.

Doctors give 0 fucks. They get paid nothing. A senior (30+ years experience) doctor at a teaching hospital makes maybe $150K. So you can be finally assigned a new doctor (after waiting literally 5 years to find one) and everything is going great. But then all of a sudden you go to renew your prescription and the pharmacist tells you the Doctor dropped you and won't refuse your prescription.

>but thank god ER is free and you can go and wait 10 hours to try to explain to an ER doctor you're on a dependent medication that can kill you on abrupt discontinuation but your doctor dropped you for no reason
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>>128096018
Jews ruin everything
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>>128096257
>Going to Dallas
>Going to Houston

as i said.
t. Lousiana
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>>128096263
I would rather Brown stay the governor forever than ever have Newsom anywhere near California, because not even Brown is that retarded.
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>>128096263
Not unless they nuke prop 13
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>>128095332
This was my exact thought. Foster a terrible communist culture in California and bring in loads of illegals, then let them flood the rest of the US.
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>>128088426
fuck that, im memeing for the 51st state ofJefferson
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>>128096377
OH YEAH I FORGOT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BYCDdY4N4Q
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>>128091944
Would you look at that...young jew girl and a horny chimp. Ain't that the sorriest sight that you ever done seen?
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>>128088833
No one. The bill is completely unfunded right now. It will have to be amended and go back to the assembly so I doubt this is anything more than symbolic.
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>>128088602
Californian tax payers cover illegal immigrants who don't pay taxes....so progressive.
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>>128094407
fuck you jose
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>>128096108
>Cuckifornians and other trash are willing to pay 25-50% premiums on real estate to live in the city Fred Armisen told them it was
Like you'd turn it down. In any case Jews deserve death.
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>>128096583
are you Texan by chance?
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I live in Cali, how serious is this? There is no way this will pass the assembly.
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>>128096762
Formerly. Disgusting.
>>128096814
It will get as far as Calexit, as in not at all.
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>>128096521
>mfw orange county was once ok tho too :(
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>>128094407
Fuck you socal


I piss in your water every day.>>128096521
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>>128096164
Royalty conflict could be Saudi Arabia. Speculation is there is a lot of infighting and the arms deal will be used for a civil war there.
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>>128096918
What's disgusting?

Why'd you leave Texas for California?
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>>128097007
That makes sense.
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>>128096521
>seems neat
>fuck off SF
>remember I am slightly below that
Just wanted to be friends, dood.
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>>128088462
>>128088759
Ya you have to understand in the U.S especially the California state government. We underestimate by a fuck ton.
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>>128088117
praise god. that communist hell is finally dead.
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>>128097088
There's nothing to do and everyone is an entitled asshole, and the only thing to eat there is beef ribs and steak and that gets old after a while.
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>>128088855
are you fucking retarded, commiefaria is a shit hole that will fail under automation. Iḿ moving my dads 20 million business based out of san hoe to texas fuck fags and trans. Oh nd ur q worthless welfare baby who does not own shit
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>>128094325
They really think they will change Texas
GTFO
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>>128097259
HAHAHAHA, enjoy your libshits in denial with sticks up their asses.
>Living in the Gay Area
Your doing 100%, stop bitching.
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>>128090125
holy smokes a 15% hit on your paycheck is huge.

Imagine your boss came in tomorrow and said you're taking a 15% pay cut. Fucking NUTS.
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>>128096341
>sorry burgers, a lead moment
The taxes stuff is completely true. Faggots rather spend our money on bike lanes and (subsidies) than see honest people keep their money.
Ambulance fees are a result of unemplyed using them as a taxi service.
However, we also have public drug insurance, about $600 tacked on at income tax time, unless you have private insurance. So, must drugs are covered minus a small deductible.
ER wait can be exorbitantly long, but you are triaged as any system. Life-threatening issues go first, those with the sniffles gunking up thr system just make thr wait much longer.
The doctor situation is quite dire as the province forces clinics to open longer hours thus hire more doctors. Dont forget that even though the system is public, clinics and hospitals are mostly privately run (including for-profit, although the costs are set by the state).
Bro, you know CLSC can help you right? No reason for the ER for a fucking prescription.

>back to cali
Why arent you all celebrating?
If it works, free healthcare.
If it doesnt, cali crashes and burns.
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>>128096191
North Las Vegas, Downtown, Sunrise, Paradise, and Whitney are literal no go zones for me. Centennial, Summerlin, The Lakes, Spring Valley, Southwest, and Henderson are great. The areas of those neighborhoods that border niggerville should be avoided, too. Stay west, and it's very nice. A lot of people come here for 2 - 6 years, work, save up, enjoy the low cost of living, mountains, lakes, parks, food, then move somewhere else. My next move will be somewhere northern, small population, and > 95% white. It's a great place for people who need to escape financially crippling areas. I'd love to stay here, but in the long run over the next few decades anywhere mildly southern is going to be overflowing with spics.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13093469
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Stock up on guns and ammo, fellow califags.
We're headed for failed state status.
You think there's a resemblance to Weimar now? Just wait until the state is fucking bankrupt and we don't get bailed out because faggot Jerry Brown made us a sanctuary state.
The California Weimar Republic is coming.
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>>128088426
>tfw californians never seem to come to Minnesota guess they can't handle the weather :^)
>tfw I key every car I see with cali plates
I'm doing my part, everyone remember if you see cali plates insurance only covers tires in pairs so always slash 3 tires. Then they need to make an insurance claim and one more isn't covered!
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>>128097829
Yes, stock up on guns and ammo for some stupid fucking prop that will get vetoed.
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>>128096336
Someone else mentioned Russia, and with ice covered regions (ice caves of sorts) melting the gaseous release from underneath could be pretty damaging.
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>>128093994
It's true. It's basically just the Bay Area. Go anywhere outside of that and it's gun toting 4 wheeling red blooded Americans.
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>>128088833
Nobody, it'll fall on the legal/citizen beans but by then it'll be too late for us to get away from Tijuana 2.0. Honestly, you guys in Oregon, Nevada and Arizona should shoot us on sight when we try to flee the state, we deserve it for letting it go this far
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>>128094407
>muh pre-ban

bawhahaha not anymore you worthless no guns faggot
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>>128096316
There's really a fuckton of /us/ here, we're just outnumbered. It's a sorry state of affairs - would welcome a Calexit as it would justify the establishment / annexation of a more free CA that is still incorporated within the union.
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>>128096336
>>128097980
>More inbred hicks who can't into kindergarten-tier geology
Every. Single. Time.
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Fuck, GOATfornia being one step ahead AGAIN, we're all just playing 2D chess
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>>128097887
It's not a prop.
Do you even into californian politics?
Brown will sign this shit. The left will make it a race issue and he will cave.
Stay unarmed, nogun fag
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>>128097221
Obviously not a Texan or a cuck at birth
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>>128095715
>(You)
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>>128096521
My brother, I will meme with you.
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>>128088117
Mother of god can you imagine LA hospitals after this? Those places can handle a ton of people but we're going to see some real shit once every Juan, Tyrone, and Shaquanza can get free medical weed.
You'll be on a twelve week waitlist for a fucking ibuprofen.
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>>128098210
Brown is not Newsom. For how terrible Moonbeam makes this state not even he is this retarded. You don't even live in Cali, you just spew fanatical bullshit out of your ass. Remember how we all unironically thought Calexit was happening once? That shit conveniently disappeared a few weeks into Trump's presidency.
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>>128096583
Islam plot twist: Feminists see the chance to be even greater victims than in their wildest dreams and force progressiveness from within. Win win, they actually destroy Islam like everything else they touch and some will likely be executed for terrorizing the religion.
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>>128096762

HAHA OMG
Fucking mudslime cuck, probably praying for jihad
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>>128088443
Georgia, specifically Atlanta and I'm not even kidding
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>>128088602
A huge list of all illegal names and residences?
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>>128093239
Weed is still illegal at the federal level. Bank money is federally insured up to $250,000. Weed shops can't deposit money into banks as banks have to report them. Weed shops remain largely cash only businesses and thus difficult to tax in this manner.
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>>128088426
FUCK THE FUCK OFF WE'RE FUCKING FULL
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>>128096341
>tfw make as much as the average Canadian household at my shitty job and pay less in taxes
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>>128098107
whatever. we'll talk after you kick out the mexicans
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>>128088117
It still has to go through the Assembly and then it has to be given the okay by Governor Jerry Brown, who is vehemently against such an idea. Even then it has to be given the okay by the Federal government, which the Trump Administration likely won't okay such a thing. Do your goddamn research foreigner.
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>>128096018
>educate women
Now huear me out, women will be stubborn as a donkey, they will NEVER learn because they are always too proud, come the point where their stupidity causes a massive crisis they will sit down and cry as things get worse.

If for SOME REASON they realize what they have done they will remain crying and won't do anything about it.
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This is Trump's ultimate 3D chess. He is going to get the liberal democrats to put their money where their mouth is.

And bankrupt California with gimees.
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>>128088426
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>128088833
Why, the Hollywood Jews and liberal actors of course. They cried about it all last year. Now they can deal with the consequences and the bill.
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>>128098580
Your shithole is all trailer park rednecks and skinny jeaned cucks. You can handle a few more.
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>>128097221
Did you live in Austin or something? Your description sounds nothing like Texas.
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>$460b in debt
>adding on more b's of debt
>soon to reach t mark of debt
>earthquake expectancy off the richter scale ('89 epicenter was just outside of santa cruz)
>civil unrest at peak in many years
>tfw ground zero for all of these events to happen
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Hi califaggia, gulf south here. Ya know the brain eating amoeba we have in our water... wat y'all gonna do bout that when we come to yer goldmine e?? Sorry we got lots of isis spilling in so weer gonna head west
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SoCal here.
Healthcare is a RIGHT. If the US won't do it, we'll lead the way. This is also why "Calexit" will never happen. There are federal funds we can appropriate for this.
I voted for Trump, but he's wrong on healthcare. Obamacare wasn't perfect but it's a progressive step. The main thing Democrats and majority of citizens want is universal healthcare. Obamacare forced the narrative that healthcare is a right, not a privelage. I agree with pol on most things but we're leading the way in healthcare, and others will follow.
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>>128097829
Or start reloading for yourself. Fuck Berry Jrown's background checking tyranny.
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>>128097590
It would be likely half, same as most taxes. 15% would be 7.5 you and 7.5% business.
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>>128098382
Fag I've lived in CA my whole life.
Nobody with half a brain thought calexit was happening.
The moment they figure out how they'll fund this Brown will sign it.
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>>128097610
>Bro, you know CLSC can help you right? No reason for the ER for a fucking prescription.

I've been on my local CLSC wait list since 2014.

I even faked docs to go on 2 others in 2015.

Still waiting.

Can't go pay a private clinic $2K/year to see a doctor immediately because "it's not fair". Instead Syrian refugees get family docs right away, in fact they meet them at the fucking airport (!!).

Instead I'm forced to show up at 8AM at a local public clinic, get a slip, wait 6-10 hours then see a random doctor who knows nothing about my health history and tries to get me out in 3 minutes or less while feigning concern to an Anglo.

>Syrian (((Refugee))) couple w/ 7 kids gets pre-tax requivalent of $284,000/year, plus a start-up tax-free, non-repayable present of ~$30K, and they can bring $30K cash with them because they're so "poor"

Thank god I keep my money hidden offshore..
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CA can pull the money from Calpers, the state pension. The 969billion underfunding will turn around once the stock market hit 50,000.
http://www.pensiontracker.org
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>>128098908
Good plan. Should probably learn to do that anyway.
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california just keeps winning all the time. I wish florida was more like them
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>>128098503

You do realize his father is Fidel Castro and he's a literal Muslim?
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>>128088117

Why the disinfo?

Or misinfo?

>Be me.

>Go on 4chan.

>See some idiot posting misinformation.

>He is either dumb or deliberately misleading people.


California already spends 350+ Billion on healthcare per year. It is going to increase to 400 billion regardless of what they do.

Fucking moron thread.

Is this what they mean by shills?

It is ALREADY x3 times their budget you moron.

It isn't an INCREASE from 140 billion to 400 billion you MORON.

400 BILLION is what they will spend on healthcare.

I hate commiefornia more than you know, but you are a grade a fucking moron.
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>>128096105
This is probably the case.
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>>128098959
Brown will sign my left asscheek. You overestimate the competence and intelligence of the people who made this bill. Being prepared is smart in case of the worst scenario, so I'll give you that, and I'm not saying that what you're doing is a bad thing, but I do think you're overreacting just a touch.
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>>128098733
Ughm, trailer parks exist in Canada too.
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>>128098907
Hi Mohammed
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>>128090432
>It can't be mass illegal voter fraud because that is a myth...

califag here. myth? myth? Mother fucker, the same piece of paper that you sign at the dmv to get any kind of california id is the same piece of paper you register to vote on. And the only thing from preventing an illegal from registering to vote in california is a little * that says "lol if u arnt a legal citizen u promise not to fill this part out ;)"
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>>128099328
I know. I know about Alberta.
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>>128098353
You nailed it. That's what all my guns look like now... plastic bullets too
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Arizonan here, I hope all you commiefornian niggers fucking die slowly.
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I thought California was bankrupt? How are they going to afford this?
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>>128090222
I miss seeing Dubya act like a complete idiot
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>>128096257
ATTENTION! THIS IS NOW A CRACKHEAD THREAD!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPUWYNn2vMA
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>>128099517
They can't, that's why this will go nowhere.
>>128099568
Hell yes.
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Are they calculating I all the millions of people, legal or otherwise, who would flood in so they don't have to pay for their health care anymore

It would be a magnet for America's sick
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>>128098733
I'm a NY fag though.
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>>128098588
Forgot about ((them))
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>>128099682
As great as NY is, you do still have skinny jeaned cucks in the city.
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>>128099437
Nah. You don't know shit.

In Waterloo Ontario for example, which is the "Silicon Valley of the North", you have a row of houses in Laurelwood, now priced $800-1.5M for 2000 sq ft cuckshacks made of particle board with cracking foundations.

Across the pond, literally 100 ft away is a tailerpark.
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>>128095715
>That feeling when your county went red.
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Californian in conservative party of California here. Most white young people plan to leave this state. The ones who operate businesses are most adamant. The high taxes, the multiculturalism, large parts of your city turning steadily into Mexico lookalike, each race and/or ethnicity separating into their own enclave by default and only mixing when performing business or when forced to. It's not worth the weather.
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>>128099315
>You overestimate the competence and intelligence of the people who made this bill.
HA! The fact they made this bill means they're incompetent and unintelligent.
You overestimate the competence and intelligence of Jerry Brown.
And, it is just good advice to be ready, and with the fucking landslide of shit legislation they are trying to ram through this state is becoming more and more a leftist fucking shithole. It's going to pop. This state is so divided already. Drive up and down 5 and you see MAGA signs all over, but in LA and the Bay you'd get your windows smashed for that. Then go up north or east of the coast and you're back in what looks like a red state.
The state politicians can't keep fucking us over. It's going to come to a head, and that head will be sparked by economic uncertainty. If he signs this bill, and the sanctuary bill, we will see that economic uncertainty, especially if Trump pulls our funding or doesn't bail us out.
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>>128098907
I disavow this cuckoldry. NOT a right. Get off my plane
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>>128098907
Norcal here. This will NEVER get past the assembly.
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>>128088117
>mfw CA has a higher tax on goods then fucking Sweden now.
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>>128099233
proof
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>>128099898
That is wonderful and I am simply too exhausted to go into great detail as to why you should really fucking lower your blood pressure, but I'm sure things will be okay. You can't think with a "oh shit we're all gonna die" mentality 24/7. I used to do that and sometimes I still do, but thinking that way is just not healthy anymore.
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>>128099604
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv2LGuw-Wm0
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>>128099173
Find an old guy to teach you - it's skill worth having if you care about being self reliant. Good luck m8
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>>128099891
kek California has been like that since the 80s
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>>128099891
Fuck off, all your so called "right wingers" move to other states and try to get their commiefornian way of live established.
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>>128099485
Eat my lead dirt farmer
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>>128099604
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkM5JT2rgZc
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Can anyone dumb this down for a autist?
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Guys, is this just a larp? I am high as fuck and I have no idea what is going on. Jesus, I am freaked out.
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>>128089305
> didnt understand the question
the state's budget expenditures will MORE THAN TRIPLE (that"s what 3 fold means...)

the tax increases (wtf is a superton?) will not even scratch the surface of the new spending.

this is how leftists and marxists make a state go bankrupt overnight.

this is jerry brown's goodnight kiss
if california can be governed by a Brown, then california must die.

expect mexicans to run rampant in the streets.
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>>128100193
My blood pressure is low af.
Too bad too many conservatives in the state share your mindset, probably why we always get shit showings at the voting booths.
Couldn't even get enough signatures to have a vote on stopping the "gunmageddon" bills.
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>>128100633
/pol/ is freaking out over stupid bullshit again
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>>128096521
>>128088426
Where's the Oregon one and FUCK OFF CALIFORNIA STAY IN YOUR CONTAINMENT STATE
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>>128100633
Commiefornia wants to tax everybody out of their fuckwad state, now.
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>>128100840
We're already being taxed out anon
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjwA1kFid88
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>>128088117
mfw i worked in california and escaped just in time before it went to full shit

>15% state tax increase to pay for it

source on this?
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Want to know what's so fucked up about California? Like why do they kill the Chris Pine at the end of Wonder Women. And what's with the British guy secretly being Ares all along. Fuck California.
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>>128088117
>15% state tax increase to pay for it
WHAT THE FUCK???? I'm self employed and pay for my own health care, a 15% tax increase will mean I'm paying 3.75 times more than I currently am.

And the current cost is ALREADY high, being young and healthy under obamacare means I'm subsidizing all the hamplanets and the aidsfags.

Fuck the democrats, seriously, fuck democrats. I'm actually pretty liberal but...fuck.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry16epALZxI
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>>128095715
I'm unfortunately moving to Cali...soon....to start a business that will prey on the liberal/progress, smell my own farts cucks that live there. So I can't hope they change cause that would ruin my business opportunity, but can someone make me feel better about moving from a solid conservative state to an off the charts blue, socialist, dystopia? Hopefully its temporary, but who knows. Dreading it.....but the opportunity it just too juicy to pass up.....
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>>128101128
>I'm actually pretty liberal

STAY WHERE YOURE AT YOU PIECE OF SHIT CALIFORNIAN
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>>128098908
just wait they're going to get you on buying bullets and powder too.

P.S. Dillon is good but their customer support isn't half as good as people make it out to be.
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>>128098907
Norcal here. How is healthcare a right? How is it your right to force other people to pay for your aids medication?

Remember that your "right" is someone else's resposibility.
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>>128098926
Still a 7.5% pay cut is a lot, even for people who don't leave paycheck to paycheck. I'd quit my job if my employer cut my paycheck by even 3%
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>>128098353
disgusting.
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>>128101205
It's actually a dope place to live if you just ignore all the politics and taxes. Especially if you like outdoors activities.
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>>128101462
I meant socially liberal...fiscally I'm conservative. And fuck you. What state are you in?
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>>128101205
Really depends on what city. There's good people everywhere, but probably more shitty ones as a rule. Betas, cholos, nigs, and retarded, loose women are to be expected in the big city's. Oh and asians.
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>>128101477
The CA/AZ border is basically non-existent.
Plus no one checks your luggage on trains.
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>>128101709
So you love faggots, baby killing and general degeneracy, and that's supposed to make you seem more desirable as a transplant?
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>>128088117
I guess we will be getting more refugees from California moving here now. Soon all California will be is Mexicans, idiots, and celebrities.
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>>128101205
What part are you moving to? There is some really cool shit here.
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>>128101509
We all will get sick at some point. It's not like you'll NEVER need a doctor in your life. /pol/ just hates it because the Democrats were the only ones brave enough to initiate it.
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Just because you live in California, that doesn't make you a bad person.
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>>128090159
>tfw irreversibly locked in california for the next two years
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>>128101477
Buy kegs of powder and cast your bullets. Or just stock the fuck up on your supplies before they start regulating.

Dillion makes a good machine, but I've heard similar anecdotes.

Shooting your our loads is just as satisfying as it sounds. And PRODUCES testosterone.
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>>128101935
Yes we all get sick, but I would never expect someone else to pay for my doctor visit. That's just absurd!
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>>128101509
Amen. Same.
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>>128101865
Lets not forget Nevada lad! Much freedom next door.
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>in fac lemme take anotha /pol/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Sq58A0aqWM
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when will those based states come liberate commiefornia from its self??
t.cuckafornian whose tired of all this cuckery
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>>128101935
I may get sick, so ((here)) pay my bills you fuckwit socialist.

Gibs do not equal rights!
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>>128101205
>>128101687
>>128101799
>>128101923
LA area. Trying to find a place that's not 2,000$ in rent for a studio apartment. Did some scouting last week and it took me an hour and a half to drive 20 miles. I was so fucking pissed.... worried about taxes...worried about cost of living.... but I can't left fear hold me back. Gotta push through.
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>>128102405
Right. I'm in socal right now so I though AZ. But there's basically no border stop with NV either, and still they don't check your luggage on trains.
This post is completely irrelevant for this discussion, though.
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>>128088443
Texas has a fuckton
No state income tax either.
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>>128102738
Bruh I'm in a two bedroom for $2k in LA.
Traffic is a bitch, but you get used to it.
Waht part of LA?
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>>128102738
Long Beach has reasonable rent and a good vib. Costa Mesa ((used)) to be based - not so much now. Good luck and godspeed jewing the Jew
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>>128102648
can someone please explain the
>t.
syntax?
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>>128103011
Finnish for regards newfag.

You end an ironic post with the identity of the faggot that would say something like that.
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>>128097856
>New Somalia
>bragging that californians cant handle the weather
>literally once the land of blonde whites, now a shithole that elected al franken and muzzies everywhere in the twin cities
>let me key others cars like a nigger. Gee why does my state suck?
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>>128102993
I second long beach IF YOU STAY IN BELMONT SHORE AREA
Second street and surrounding is great social areas, quaint houses. Places get rented out quick though
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>>128103424
>zomg zomg not a newfag
i've only started seeing it recently. i thought it meant 'thanks.' i'm not sure how fins are involved
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