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...yet you refuse to listen to God's intermediary on Earth when it comes to climate change.

You should all be excommunicated. Enjoy your long stay in purgatory.
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>>128049484
The Pope is not God's intermediary. He's just a figurehead of a false strain of Christianity.

The Catholic Church was created to pacify the poor.
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>>128049484
go away poop francis
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>>128049484
>the pope is God's intermediary

Francis isn't Peter, fuckhead, and he isn't Jesus either
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>>128049839

Protestants and their love for usury and money ruined the West, and apparently now even the world.
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>>128049484
"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;"

1 Timothy 2:5
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>>128049484
>God's intermediary on Earth
Are you retarded?
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atheists are saved!! hurrrr peter is the rock that means my roman catholic church is the one true church

gay sex in heaven!
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>>128050093
Please, not all Protestants.

God will punish America for violating his creation.
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>>128049484
>pol/ claims to be a Christian board
No, a few shitposters claim that and newfags like you believe it.
What a retard.
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>>128049484
Fuck off with your desert religion, I'm pagan and proud.
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>>128050741
Why would God punish America, at least a significant portion of our population is still pious.

Europe on the other hand is being punished for it's secularism.
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>>128049839
Amen bro. The followers of this cult of Mary are in danger of going to hell if they continue with their heretical beliefs. I pray for them every day to realise their folly and focus on the fact that God already sees them as righteous through Christ's sacrifice. Their focus on works is a road to nowhere.
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>>128049484
>this is your pope
No, the papacy is until you die.
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>>128049484
>Not knowing that Vatican II is the Beast that was, is not, and is to come from the Book of the Apocalypse

Guess I know which OP isn't going to be saved.
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>>128049484
>Nigger feet kissing spic
>god's intermediary
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>>128049839
oh hey, achmed
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>>128051088
checked
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>>128050801
>Lol God doesn't exist guys
>No, this is not a Christian board. Christianity is stupid
>Seriously you guys believe in a man who lives in the clouds
>Why not be me?
>Have a cartoon frog characterized as a stoner represent an all mighty omnipotent being
>PRAISE KEK

Not thinking an speaking is forgivable, not thinking and typing is just insufferable..
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>>128051619
Nope

t. Eastern Christian
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>>128051088
>Why would God punish America

50 million abortions
people turning away from god
sexual promiscuity
porno
homosexuality
the love of money
divorces
drugs
starting wars

in the bible the end times starts with america falling first
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>>128049484
Jesuits should never take the papacy
They, along with progressive Christians, are the cancer that is killing the value systems and ethics that made Christianity a cornerstone of modern society

Christians need to wake the fuck up and realizing that you cannot defeat Satan by yielding to him
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The pope runs a pedophile ring. The largest one in the world.

The Pope is an evil sadistic cunt. Just like all those FAGGOT priests who touch young boys.

BUNCH OF FAGGOTS
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>>128051083
Pls be more specific. That word means nothing more than non-Abrahamic.
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>>128051088
The followers of modern Christianity, those that think Francis is "Le best Pope" are destroying the word of God to avoid being branded as culturally regressive
They applaud the changes to the church, borne by decades of slander by the Liberal media
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>>128049484
Christian, not Catholic
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>>128049484
He's just a man
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>>128049484
>purgatory

Auto-de-fe, you unusual fellow.
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>>128049484
Daily reminder that entire idea of Democracy and existence of the US is heresy.
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>>128049484
His heretical views should have earned him the axe. Letting Islam into the Church of God and into the Holy See is an affront to all of Christianity.
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>>128049484
>Listen to a deranged Jesuit pedophile
>Christian

pick one.
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>>128051219
Yknow, If angels actually looked that badass and werent portrayed as a bunch of retarded babies, Id be into Christianity

The Bible Comic Book was pretty cool
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>>128049484
climate change is a lie because nothing man can do could ever impact on gods creation or go against his will

Only god can make the ice caps melt, make the summers warm and the winters cold

The devil is the one who preaches power over the world for man to be god of his own making

Repent op
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>>128053372
>Humans cannot change the world
Look two feet in front of you, you rainy little socialist cunt
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>>128049839
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF170B126002E7CB0
It is known
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>>128049484

>dat nose

you'd think the most powerful organization in the world would have a better vetting system
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>>128049484
False pope
We need another schism and Avignon Papacy
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The Pope is man's symbol as the intermediator. Of God.


God has not appointed THIS.

This Pope is too involved in politics.

I, as a protestant, wish for the days of John Paul. Truly a man of God who cared for his churchs' morality.

He would never had said the President was not a Christian. The way this Pope is going he will surrender the Church to mooslums without a fight.

But I have faith that the Defenders of the Holy Church, Brave Poland, will stand for Jesus.

God bless Poland and keep her safe.

Eat shit you heathen France and Doucheland! You both are getting what you deserve. Your chances are gone, l We begged you to vote Le Pen but you hate us so bad you vote for Islamic enrichment. When your 12 y o daughter is getting GA GED raped you and your stupid wife can hold her hand. Also you can bro g her her AIDS drugs.

Enjoy you POS!
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>>128054456
>John Paul

Possibly the most immoral Pope there ever was. Polish diaspora detected. kys
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>>128049484
>proddy libelously larping as a catholic

None of us believe this shit faggot
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>>128049484
God has nothing to say about the farce called CC...
And that twit commie pope can stuff it up his ass...
>Catlick...
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>>128053743
Only because god allows it, if god wills mans breathe turn to ice

It will be so
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>>128049484
because he is a {{{Jesuit}}}
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>>128055555
FUUUUCK OFF
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>>128049484
Find purgatory in the Bible please, and refer me to the chapter and verse, otherwise the pope is a false prophet / beast.
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>>128050093
>Muh Protestants, burn them!
Protestants are cucked faggots these days but you Catholics are a special brand of deceived and stupid.
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>>128055803
Only god has power

Recycling will not stop his will

Just as Noah could not stop his flood
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>>128051083
>pagan and proud
>t. Catholic
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>>128049484
We don't have an intermediary.

When Jesus died for us, the significance of the the temple curtain being torn in two http://biblehub.com/matthew/27-51.htm is that is opened up a new relationship between God and man - he paid for our sins and now we can have a direct relationship with God with no need for a high priest.

The Catholics aren't doing it right by advocating for an intermediary. Oh and you know, obfuscating the truth in the Bible during the dark ages, the jesuits, accumulating vast wealth, following Babylonian practices and symbolism, etc etc
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>>128057690
Funny this happened in early christianity
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>>128057690
>direct relationship
So why did Paul Have to tell others what to do?
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>>128049484
Fuck the pope the Bible doesn't mention a fucking pope to lead the church.
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>>128055817
Sola FIDE is false doctrine
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>>128049484
Firstly, I'm assuming the pope follows the Bible.

tl;dw: The Earth has been going down hill since Adam ate the Apple.
The Genesis Theory - (Part 1)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMA41EVDhqw

>01:45 - 4:49
Smear campaign against Creation Theory. Can skip
>06:23 - 20:19
History of the reliability of the Bible. Can skip
>20:20 - 28:31
Arguing against Gap Theory. Can skip
>28:32 - 1:30:20
Age of Earth (also astronomy) timeline. Strongly recommend watching this part!
>1:30:21 - 1:33:14
Evolution and Information (in DNA). Recommend watching this part.
>1:33:15 - 1:56:50
Monkeys, Stone Age, big bones and footprints. Strongly recommend watching this part!
>1:56:51 - 2:02:00
Talking about Egypts creation story. Flood stories. Can skip
>2:02:00 - 2:22:35
Geocentric View. Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation. Strongly recommend watching this part!
>2:22:36 - 2:54:16
Nickola Teslas version of Gravity. Strongly recommend watching this part!
>2:54:17 - 2:57:30
Tectonics. Can skip
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>>128058395
But the bible does mention a bunch of apostles that do
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protestants hate this

13 Then these things happened with such dispatch, quicker than can be told—the crowds in so great a hurry to gather wood and faggots from the workshops and the baths, the Jews being especially zealous, as usual, to assist with this. 2When the fire was ready, and he had divested himself of all his clothes and unfastened his belt, he tried to take off his shoes, though he was not heretofore in the habit of doing this because [each of] the faithful always vied with one another as to which of them would be first to touch his body. For he had always been honored, even before his martyrdom, for his holy life. 3Straightway then, they set about him the material prepared for the pyre. And when they were about to nail him also, he said: "Leave me as I am. For he who grants me to endure the fire will enable me also to remain on the pyre unmoved, without the security you desire from the nails."
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>>128058827
https://www.ccel.org/ccel/richardson/fathers.vii.i.iii.html
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>>128052775
That pic.
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>>128058573
That doesn't change the fact that the Bible doesn't mention the pope at all hes not gods intermediary his entire office is fucking heresy.
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>>128049484
catholics are nothing but satanists, the salvation idea is satanic in nature
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>>128059211
The entire protestantism is heresy too
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>>128059280
This is satanic to protestants

https://www.ccel.org/ccel/richardson/fathers.vii.i.iii.html
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>>128049484
catholics arent christian
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>>128059433
Meanwhile in early christianity
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>>128059332
Yeah it is, fucking disgusting scum the lot of them.
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>>128059589
So who is right?
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>>128058395
>sola scriptura

This was a concept that Luther pulled out of his ass.
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>>128059521
>newadvent.org
wow, really tickled my peanuts. keep worshipping the whore of babylon you dumbfuck jew.
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>>128059733
Fuck if I know but if your going to follow the fucking Bible follow the fucking Bible. The majority of Christians in the west would go to hell.
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>>128059814
The same shit is also found in CCEL

deal with it
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>>128060054
https://www.ccel.org/ccel/richardson/fathers.vii.i.iii.html

Read this to start to know
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>>128060213
>CCEL
wow, really makes it legit. jews totally havent revised your kike book so many times that its meaningless, whore worshiping subhuman.
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>>128049484
>Doesn't know the difference between doctrinal teaching and prudential teaching.
>Doesn't know the criteria for excommunication.
>Doesn't know what Vicar of Christ means.
>Doesn't know what purgatory is.
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>>128060510
>I hate history
Show me the true writing of Irenaeus

I am waiting
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>>128060781
>(((history)))
>mr kikeberg said that we should worship the whore of babylon, its our history he said.
burn in hell, dumbass.
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>>128049484

****EVERY POPE****
AFTER
>Pope Pius XII
I A FUCKING ILLUMINATI (((NWO))) ***KEK*** FOR SATAN WITH THE JOB TO WEAKEN AND DESTROY THE CHURCH FROM INSIDE AND ALLOW GLOBAL TYRANNY TO SPREAD LIKE SATANIC CANCER FOR THE GOOD OF (((THEM)))

KILL ((((THEM))) ALL!!! and let God sort (((them))) out!!!
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>>128049982
He is, though. Literally the Vicar of Christ.
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>>128049484
The second he kissed the feet of those dirty saracens was the second he was no longer my pope. How could he sell out his flock like that?
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>>128060904
>no attempt of evidence
PRODDIE proof by assertion
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>>128060781

I'm sorry Nigel. Please invade the US and make us your colony again. America is beyond saving thanks to inbred rednecks who think they know what they are talking about.
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>>128061055
We will destroy protestantism
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>>128049484
God should bring a great flood.

>>128022215
>>128022215
>>128022215
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>>128055690
http://www.socialism.com/drupal-6.8/articles/pope-francis-catholic-church-and-argentina%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%9Cdirty-war%E2%80%9D
>During the military junta, Fr. Jorge Bergoglio headed the influential Argentine Jesuit order of priests. His own politics were openly conservative and anti-communist. He was deeply hostile to liberation theology which focused on the needs of the poor and was a growing movement among Latin America’s nuns and priests. For decades, many have accused Bergoglio of collaborating with the junta and informing on these left-wing Catholics.
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>>128049484

He epitomizes the heresy of the papacy.
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>>128061007
Canada will have it's reckoning too, Leaf.
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>>128061137
t. francis
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>>128049484
>implying Francis is not an antichrist
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>>128049484
"And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven." -Matthew 23:9
>Let's make a religion. What should we call the leader?
>How about father?
>Good idea, the Bible is for newbs, our new traditions are what matter.
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>>128061363
The Early Christians deny protestantism
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>>128061026
>Allowing stupid actions of a temporary leader to incite you into eternal rebellion.
>Not realizing Francis is just another cross sent to test the faithful.
>Not realizing that Christ will often use unlikely and weak people to achieve his goals.
>Not realizing that we must wait for the Enemy to make the first move.
You need to go back to CCD, my niggra. Learn a bit about being Catholic.
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>>128061426
Meanwhile in early christianity
"Since then these things are manifest to us, and we have looked into the depths of the divine knowledge, we ought to do in order all things which the Master commanded us to perform at appointed times. He commanded us to celebrate sacrifices and services, and that it should not be thoughtlessly or disorderly, but at fixed times and hours. He has Himself fixed by His supreme will the places and persons whom He desires for these celebrations, in order that all things may be done piously according to His good pleasure, and be acceptable to His will. So then those who offer their oblations at the appointed seasons are acceptable and blessed, but they follow the laws of the Master and do not sin. For to the high priest his proper ministrations are allotted, and to the priests the proper place has been appointed, and on Levites their proper services have been imposed. The layman is bound by the ordinances for the laity."

Source: St. Clement, bishop of Rome, 80 A.D., to the Corinthians

"Our sin will not be small if we eject from the episcopate those who blamelessly and holily have offered its Sacrifices."

Source: Letter to the Corinthians, [44,4]
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>>128061465
>The Early Christians
yeah, because youve met them? oh wait, the (((church))) killed all the real early christians aka the ARYAN CHURCH. jew faggot, i hope you suffer.
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>>128061465
They deny people from branching off from what the Bible says.
The Catholic Church branched off from what the Bible says, and then they argue that getting your information from the Bible is wrong.
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>>128053304
>babies
You are another example of the Catholics cucking society through made up non-biblical additions

Angels are not babies. People think baby angels are called a cherub, but cherubim are actually "depicted as having a number of wing pairs, and four faces: that of a lion (representative of all wild animals), an ox (domestic animals), a human (humanity), and an eagle (birds)."

Here is that heretical "baby angel" think you're talking about
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putto
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>>128049484
I am Filipino and Roman Catholic.
This pope is a fucking disaster.
I though JP2 could be a pandering virtue-signaler,
But this pope is on a whole other level.
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>>128061659
>JESUS is white
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>>128061384

They honestly can't even see the evil in this thing.

Sad!
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>>128061705
Protestantism deny the bible
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>>128061758
the whole baby angel thing is based in the long history of (((catholic))) pedophilia and child sacrifice, behind closed doors at high levels within the (((church)))
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>>128061952
Meanwhile in early christian
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>>128061901
FAUX CATHOLIC
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>>128061977
And protestantism hate this
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>>128049484

Well if you actually read the Bible, the curtain between the Holy and the Most Holy was turn from the top removing the separation.

Therefore we no longer need priests to speak to God for us. We can enter into His presence directly - because of the Blood of Christ.

Tell me why exactly do we need the Pope again?
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>>128061926
>>128062057
>we wuz jesus.
>francis is muh nigga
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>>128049484

This faggot caused me to leave the church. Fuck him and fuck (((you))).
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>>128061967
Catholics literally say that getting your information from the Bible is called Sola Scriptura and the Bible is wrong. Instead get your information from the Catholic Church.
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>>128049484
Well if a fictional character says so.
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>>128062149

>torn*
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>>128049484
Im catholic i cant stand francis. He's an agent of subversion and a useful idiot. If he cared half as much about the church completely liberalizing itself and the pedophile coverups as he does about muh polar bears maybe id start toing back to church. He's doing for religion what bill nye is doing for science.
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>>128061901
How is Duterte's Crusade against ISIS going my Filipino friend?
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>>128062120
>And protestantism hate this
yes, protestantism hates pedophilia and child sacrifice.
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>>128062166

Sola Scriptura was pulled out of thin air by Martin Luther.
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We need no Pope
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>>128062158
Protestants hate the bible
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>>128062166
Sola Scriptura fruit which goes against the bible
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>>128049484
He is not my Pope.

Resist
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>>128062366
Reading the Bible as the source of information is pulled from thin air.
The Bible is wrong, listen to the Pope instead.
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>>128062314
Protestantism hates the bible
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>>128049484
#NotMyPope
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>>128062100
Hating the Pope is the most catholic thing you can do. Protestant have the false idea of us blind following the leader, when infight have always been part of our history.
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>>128062506
This is the fruit of sola scriptura
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>Following the every word of a communist leading a group of pedophile pagans pretending to be the inheritors of Christ
No thanks.
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>>128062467
>Getting your information from the Bible goes against the Bible.
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>>128062511
did francis tell you that?
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>>128062558
Protestantism is this
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>>128062165
You're dumb, fool.

>>128062149
>2000 years of unbroken tradition, countless theologians and saints, unimaginable time spent studying the word in contemplative prayer.
vs.
>some random auk on the internet.

That's why.

>>128062166
No, we just say that Protestants changing the Bible and then saying it all has to be based only on the Bible, and then reinterpreting the Bible, and then forming massive schism inside Christ's church (which was supposed to be unified and whole), and then encouraging secularism as a sword against the Church, was probably a bad idea.
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>>128049484
As a Catholic, I'd put it this way ...

During the Obama presidency, did I go out and become a LARPing anarchist? No. I disagreed vehemently with his actions, while still acknowledging he's a legitimate president.

Popes come and go, conservative and liberal, but I won't abandon the Roman Catholic Church and become a sectarian faggot. We will bring back tradition and fight off the Masons who have infiltrated our Church--we must. To abandon Her to the parasites is not an option.

Brothers in Christ, please pray that we may cleanse the infection within our holy Church.
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>>128062558
They always conveniently forget the history of antipopes and regular shitslinging from the Holy Roman Emperor at the Pope.
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>>128062651
Protestantism 101
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>>128049484
Pope is antichrist
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>>128062599
You really want to go with what the fruits of the Catholic church brought?
So much death and destruction I can't even begin. It's almost not fair, because I don't even know where to start.
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>>128062664
That is a true fact
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All of Christianity is an Affront to your European ancestry. Why would you worship a dead semite that preaches decedance and weakness when you cam return to your spirtual roots. Embrace paganism, it is the only way.
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>>128062557
Make Christianity great again.

#notmypope
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>>128062800
so he did tell you that?
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>>128062688

If you think the modern Catholic Church is anything other than a means of control you're a fool.
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>>128062780
Check out this fruit of protestantism sola ego
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>>128058521
>Can skip
Dumb, just dumb. Don't skip any of it. Genesis is brilliant even if one stands at an objective view of literature. Btw, that quote is completely subjective. One not knowing the death, resurrection and ascension is robbed of having an idea of immortality. The very premise of that is powerful when one believes it, it puts you to act more boldly and graciously without any fear of risks. What has his idea given us? That's right! Safe spaces and degeneracy! The next step to Mr. Higgens idea is idolatry which has been going on since the 20's which usually results to despots but of course such an esteemed man would never accept such logic; he is above the precedent no less; things go the way HE believes they will go because he himself IS God. Let's face it, it isn't about the Truth anymore, it's about who is righteous enough to dictate what is true through anecdotal lies.
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>>128049484
I was, down with the pope.
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>>128049484
DON'T COME ON /pol/ AND TRY AND CATHOLIC GUILT ME INTO SUPPORTING THE PARIS ACCORD!
FUCK YOU FUCK YOUR DOOMSDAY AND FUCK THIS BOARD!
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>>128062862
The bible says so
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"Consider how contrary to the mind of God are the heterodox in regard to the grace of God which has come to us. They have no regard for charity, none for the widow, the orphan, the oppressed, none for the man in prison, the hungry or the thirsty. They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they do not admit that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, the flesh which suffered for our sins and which the Father, in His graciousness, raised from the dead."

"Letter to the Smyrnaeans", paragraph 6. circa 80-110 A.D.

"Come together in common, one and all without exception in charity, in one faith and in one Jesus Christ, who is of the race of David according to the flesh, the son of man, and the Son of God, so that with undivided mind you may obey the bishop and the priests, and break one Bread which is the medicine of immortality and the antidote against death, enabling us to live forever in Jesus Christ."

-"Letter to the Ephesians", paragraph 20, c. 80-110 A.D.


Protestants hate Ignatius
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>>128062905
Oh, they were confrantational? Oh no? That's terrible!
Catholics murdered everyone who disagreed with them. That's their fruits.
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>>128063110
Meanwhile in protestantism

1. Luther

"There are others who teach in opposition to some recognised article of faith which is manifestly grounded on Scripture and is believed by good Christians all over the world, such as are taught to children in the Creed . . . Heretics of this sort must not be tolerated, but punished as open blasphemers . . . If anyone wishes to preach or to teach, let him make known the call or the command which impels him to do so, or else let him keep silence. If he will not keep quiet, then let the civil authorities command the scoundrel to his rightful master - namely, Master Hans [i.e., the hangman]." (111;v.10:222/48)

"That seditious articles of doctrine should be punished by the sword needed no further proof. For the rest, the Anabaptists hold tenets relating to infant baptism, original sin, and inspiration, which have no connection with the Word of God, and are indeed opposed to it . . . Secular authorities are also bound to restrain and punish avowedly false doctrine . . . For think what disaster would ensue if children were not baptized? . . . Besides this the Anabaptists separate themselves from the churches . . . and they set up a ministry and congregation of their own, which is also contrary to the command of God. From all this it becomes clear that the secular authorities are bound . . . to inflict corporal punishment on the offenders . . . Also when it is a case of only upholding some spiritual tenet, such as infant baptism, original sin, and unnecessary separation, then . . . we conclude that . . . the stubborn sectaries must be put to death." (111;v.10:222-3/49)
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>>128062689
This.

A bunch of pussies in this beast can't bear their crosses. We've had much worse Popes before, but then the faithful weren't a bunch of entitled millenial faggots who think they can abandon God and Church because they have a personal distaste for the man chosen above them.

Fucking King Saul was actively trying to murder David and David still felt horrible and repented because he cut his cloak, nevermind openly rejecting him before God. Damn, for a bunch of Bible-lovers, these people are pretty ignorant about their Scripture.

>>128062869
>muh CONTROL!
So what?
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>>128063291
Bullinger saw the contradiction in Luther's appeal to tradition for punishment of heretics, and thought it was "truly laughable" that he should suddenly appeal to the fact,

"of the Church having so long held this . . . If Luther's argument, based on longstanding usage, be admitted . . . then the whole of Luther's own doctrine tumbles over, for his teaching is not that which the Roman Church has held for so long." (51;v.6:259/50)

Logical consistency was never one of Luther's strong points.

Grisar states:

"That . . . every follower of his Evangel, were bound to regard all opinions which diverged from his own as godless heresies . . . he had never doubted from the moment he had discovered his new Evangel." (51;v.6:238)
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>>128063368
2. Melanchthon

"Melanchthon accepted the chairmanship of the secular inquisition that suppressed the Anabaptists in Germany with imprisonment or death. 'Why should we pity such men more than God does?' he asked, for he was convinced that God had destined all Anabaptists to hell." (122:423)

"A regular inquisition was set up in Saxony, with Melanchthon on the bench, and under it many persons were punished, some with death, some with life imprisonment, and some with exile." (115:177)

"Even though the Anabaptists do not advocate anything seditious or openly blasphemous" it was, in his opinion, "the duty of the authorities to put them to death." (51;v.6:250/51)
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>>128063466
At the end of 1530, Melanchthon drafted a memorandum in which he defended a regular system of coercion by the sword (i.e., death for Anabaptists). Luther signed it with the words, "It pleases me," and added:

"Though it may appear cruel to punish them by the sword, yet it is even more cruel of them . . . not to teach any certain doctrine - to persecute the true doctrine . . ." (51;v.6:251)

Protestant theologian Hunzinger concludes that:

"Melanchthon was wont to lose no time in having recourse to fire and sword. This forms a dark blot on his life. Many a man fell victim to his memorandum." (51;v.6:270/52)

In 1530 Melanchthon recommended death for rejection of the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist, but changed his mind on this very doctrine later in his life! (122:424)
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>>128063291
Copy and paste machine.

I really don't care about Luther. I care that people understood that the Catholic Church was wrong.
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>>128063531
3. Zwingli

"Young Bible students he once mentored were now advocating more radical reform . . . refusing to have their babies baptized, citing his own earlier ideas . . . In January, 1525, Zwingli agreed that they deserved capital punishment . . . for tearing the fabric of a seamless Christian society." (53)

Zwingli's Zurich mercilessly persecuted the Anabaptists:

"The persecution of the Anabaptists began in Zurich . . . The penalties enjoined by the Town Council of Zurich were 'drowning, burning, or beheading,' according as it seemed advisable . . . 'It is our will,' the Council proclaimed, 'that wherever they be found, whether singly or in companies, they shall be drowned to death, and that none of them shall be spared.'" (111;v.5:l53-7)
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>>128049484
961 - roman catholics come to Rus and gets BTFO just like joos and muslim scum
988 - Rus gets baptized by orthodoxy.

Damn we were lucky, dodged all them bullets there.
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>>128063584
>I hate history

Tell me when you can back your claims with scholarship and evidence
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>>128063613
Just copy and past a bunch of stuff that isn't relevant and maybe, if you throw enough stuff on the screen it means you win.
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>>128049484
But OP, "Catholic" and "Christian" are mutually exclusive.
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>>128063613
5. Knox

"His conviction . . . harked back to the darkest practices of the Inquisition . . . Every heretic was to be put to death, and cities predominantly heretical were to be smitten with the sword and utterly destroyed:

"'To the carnal man this may appear a . . . severe judgment . . . Yet we find no exception, but all are appointed to the cruel death. But in such cases God wills that all . . . desist from reasoning when commandment is given to execute his judgments.'" (122:614/54)
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>>128063764
Protestantism is NOT christian
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>>128063704
I love history.

I don't care about Luther or what he believed. You are mistaken to think that I do or that I should.
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>>128063861
And yet I am the only one ITT who cited historical sources
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>>128051619
(Ju)
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>>128063861
Protestants hate each other and contradict each other

Deal with it
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>>128063721
>Shown the true nature of the Protestant revolt.
>Not relevant in a discussion about Protestantism
I can't see why you're not Catholic.

>>128063861
>I love history.
>Except when it challenges my pre-concieved notions.
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>>128063800
>b-but the (((church))) said we had to molest and sacrifice all those kids to the 'goddess' "mary", the (((bible))) said so, goldberg told me.
you will die.
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>>128049484
Fuck off Christians, always worried about the wrong problems. The Pope is just doing what Cuckstianity was always about, humility, loving niggers and other low IQ shits that can't even sustain their own life, etc. Donate to the poor and pray some hail marys or something, that's how you get things to get better, isn't it? Desert Cult.
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>>128063950
You have things ready to go in a copy and paste fashion that aren't even relevant to the discussion. And then claim that you have historical stuff. Good for you.
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"So then, if the mixed cup and the manufactured bread receive the Word of God and become the Eucharist, that is to say, the Blood and Body of Christ, which fortify and build up the substance of our flesh, how can these people claim that the flesh is incapable of receiving God's gift of eternal life, when it is nourished by Christ's Blood and Body and is His member? As the blessed apostle says in his letter to the Ephesians, 'For we are members of His Body, of His flesh and of His bones' (Eph. 5:30). He is not talking about some kind of 'spiritual' and 'invisible' man, 'for a spirit does not have flesh an bones' (Lk. 24:39). No, he is talking of the organism possessed by a real human being, composed of flesh and nerves and bones. It is this which is nourished by the cup which is His Blood, and is fortified by the bread which is His Body. The stem of the vine takes root in the earth and eventually bears fruit, and 'the grain of wheat falls into the earth' (Jn. 12:24), dissolves, rises again, multiplied by the all-containing Spirit of God, and finally after skilled processing, is put to human use. These two then receive the Word of God and become the Eucharist, which is the Body and Blood of Christ."

-"Five Books on the Unmasking and Refutation of the Falsely

Named Gnosis". Book 5:2, 2-3, circa 180 A.D. "For just as the bread which comes from the earth, having received the invocation of God, is no longer ordinary bread, but the Eucharist, consisting of two realities, earthly and heavenly, so our bodies, having received the Eucharist, are no longer corruptible, because they have the hope of the resurrection."

-"Five Books on the Unmasking and Refutation of the Falsely named Gnosis". Book 4:18 4-5, circa 180 A.D.
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>>128064050
>muh strawman
>zero historical evidence
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>>128049839
this, the pope is not god, hes not jesus, hes an appointed dude by catholics. stop pretending he speaks for every christian
t. a catholic
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>>128064105
Except what I copy and paste are the Historical sources themselves and scholarship

BIG DIFFERENCE
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>>128064037
No, I know why the Protestant revolt happened.
Luther was actually at first trying to be a good Catholic standing against the banker Medici family. I know that the conflict between the disgusting Borgia's and the banking Medici is what caused people to see that the Catholic Church was total crap.
Luther only opened people's eyes to this fact. That's all I care about.
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>>128053304
What makes you think they don't?

Think about the story around the birth of Jesus. The Bible says he was accompanied to earth by the Armies of Heaven. Shepherds around Bethlehem saw this Army and were terrified. Instead of a bunch of white sheeted nu-males with harps, imagine what the Army of Heaven would really have looked like...chariots, legions of soldiers, scary looking mofo's like in the pic.
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>>128064084
bro u live in brazil stfu
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>>128064332
>I close my eyes to the truth
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>>128064182
>muh strawman
>*covers up pedorings*
>zero historical evidence
>semiramis worship has no evidence
AHAHAHAHAHA FAGGOT. YOU HAVE PAINTING OF NAKED BABIES ALL OVER YOUR CHURCHES. YOU CANNIBALIZE ON EFFIGIES OF CHRIST. YOU FILTHY KIKE SUBHUMANS WILL ALL BE DESTROYED BY GOD.
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>>128064256
...to things that aren't relevant.
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>>128064376
APHRAATES THE PERSIAN SAGE

Not much biographical information has been left about Aphraates. It is known that he was one of the Fathers of the Syrian Church. It is speculated that he was made bishop late in his life.,

He is thought to have been born ca. 280 A.D. and to have died ca. 345 A.D.,

"But the Lord was not yet arrested. After having spoken thus, the Lord rose up from the place where He had made the Passover and had given His Body as food and His Blood as drink, and He went with His disciples to the place where He was to be arrested. But he ate of His own Body and drank of His own Blood, while He was pondering on the dead. With His own hands the Lord presented His own Body to be eaten, and before he was crucified He gave His blood as drink; and He was taken at night on the fourteenth, and was judged until the sixth hour; and at the sixth hour they condemned Him and raised Him on the cross.",

- "Treatises" [12,6] inter 336-345 A.D.,
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>>128049484
You don't know the prophecy you eejit..
He's literally the antipope.
Look at what that fool has done To Our Once Mighty Church, he had an islamic mass in The Vatican a while back
We HAVE to go back to Pre-vatican ii Catholicism.
Luckily around 60% of Our Bishops and Priests are With that Idea.
A Coup is coming soon to The Holy See.
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>>128064436
Tell me when you have historical evidence

APHRAATES THE PERSIAN SAGE

Not much biographical information has been left about Aphraates. It is known that he was one of the Fathers of the Syrian Church. It is speculated that he was made bishop late in his life.,

He is thought to have been born ca. 280 A.D. and to have died ca. 345 A.D.,

"But the Lord was not yet arrested. After having spoken thus, the Lord rose up from the place where He had made the Passover and had given His Body as food and His Blood as drink, and He went with His disciples to the place where He was to be arrested. But he ate of His own Body and drank of His own Blood, while He was pondering on the dead. With His own hands the Lord presented His own Body to be eaten, and before he was crucified He gave His blood as drink; and He was taken at night on the fourteenth, and was judged until the sixth hour; and at the sixth hour they condemned Him and raised Him on the cross.",

- "Treatises" [12,6] inter 336-345 A.D.,

Oh wait you dont
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>>128049484
Why the fuck did the pope decide climate change was a fact over a couple decades when catholics wait hundreds of years to saint people to make sure they qualify.
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>>128049484
>/pol/ claims to be a Christian board..

Lemme give you a piece of advice; anyone claiming /pol/ is anything other than a board of peace is a fucking faggot.
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>>128064414
You are closing your eyes to the Truth. The entire 95 Thesis was to oppose the way the Medici Popes treated the Church as a bank. That was his issue.
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>>128064438
>shows early christians denying the five solaes
>shows the fruits of sola scripture
>shows protestant inability to agree
>irrelevant
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>>128064656
And luther was an Autist who hates those who disagre with him and creates protestant schisms
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>>128049484
Fuck off idolator.
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>>128064668
You think I care about Solaes. I care about one of them. Getting information from the Scriptures and not from some guy that calles himself Holy Father in direct disobedience to the scriptures.
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>>128049484
/pol/ is a contrarian board. NOT a christian board
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>>128064773

1. Luther

"There are others who teach in opposition to some recognised article of faith which is manifestly grounded on Scripture and is believed by good Christians all over the world, such as are taught to children in the Creed . . . Heretics of this sort must not be tolerated, but punished as open blasphemers . . . If anyone wishes to preach or to teach, let him make known the call or the command which impels him to do so, or else let him keep silence. If he will not keep quiet, then let the civil authorities command the scoundrel to his rightful master - namely, Master Hans [i.e., the hangman]." (111;v.10:222/48)

"That seditious articles of doctrine should be punished by the sword needed no further proof. For the rest, the Anabaptists hold tenets relating to infant baptism, original sin, and inspiration, which have no connection with the Word of God, and are indeed opposed to it . . . Secular authorities are also bound to restrain and punish avowedly false doctrine . . . For think what disaster would ensue if children were not baptized? . . . Besides this the Anabaptists separate themselves from the churches . . . and they set up a ministry and congregation of their own, which is also contrary to the command of God. From all this it becomes clear that the secular authorities are bound . . . to inflict corporal punishment on the offenders . . . Also when it is a case of only upholding some spiritual tenet, such as infant baptism, original sin, and unnecessary separation, then . . . we conclude that . . . the stubborn sectaries must be put to death." (111;v.10:222-3/49)
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>>128064595

Because he's an NWO shill.

>>128063338
>Pic related
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>>128064838
Sola Scriptura is stupid

Protestantism is a living testimony to this
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>>128049484
(((Modern Catholicism)))
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>>128064554
uhhhhh see:
>>128061952
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>>128064773
And he did it because the Catholic Church was disgusting. Between the pure wickedness of the Borgias, and saving a soul through money as the banking Medici wanted it.
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>>128064992
>some shitty art
>evil
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>>128049484

>You should all be excommunicated.
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>>128065003
And become sola ego
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>>128064938
The Catholic Church has made every nation it controls into complete crap.
Protestants actually built nice nations. Even the ones I disagree with.
Your argument is completely backwards.
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>>128063860
>People who drive their religion directly from the Bible aren't Christians
>People who follow self-appointed leaders of pagan traditions but with crosses are Christian
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>>128065111
As I said, I don't care about him. I care that he showed the world what the Catholic Church is.
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>>128065181
Protestants didn't

They had to take from secularism to do it

7. Calvin

A. General

"In the preface to the Institutes he admitted the right of the government to put heretics to death . . . He thought that Christians should hate the enemies of God . . . Those who defended heretics . . . should be equally punished." (115:178)

During Calvin's reign in Geneva, between 1542 and 1546, "58 persons were put to death for heresy." (122:473)

"While he did not directly recommend the use of the death penalty for blasphemy, he defended its use among the Jews." (123:102)

In defense of stoning false prophets, Calvin observes:

"The father should not spare his son . . . nor the husband his own wife. If he has some friend who is as dear to him as his own life, let him put him to death." (123:107/59)


This is the true face of protestantism
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>>128049484
You're not even Catholic, you dirty lying larper.
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>>128065072
fuck off pedophile
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>>128065233
Meanwhile
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>>128049839
fpbp
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>>128065281
>corruption
>can be fixed
>false PRODDIE doctrine that contradict history
That isn't solved by fixing
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>>128065311
Hahahaha, you post something that they copied directly from the Catholic Church.
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I haven't taken the time to read all of the way you fucks try to wiggle out of this, but I guarantee none of you fucks can name a more Christ-like Christian leader.

Most of you fucks tend to forget that Christ was a poor, humble, commie preacher who was no fan of the rich.
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>>128065346
Loser
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>>128065442
Protestabtism is the false strain
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>>128065500
The Catholic Church wasn't just corrupt though. He showed that it was a deeply rooted issue that goes to the very foundation of what the Catholic Church is.
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>>128065505
>posts from CALVIN
>Catjolic church
PRODDIE logic
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>>128065609
The issue is sola scriptura is retarded
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>>128049484
>worshipping a dead kike on a stick
SAD. Please note that Christcucks have no actual response for why they worship a dead Jew.
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>>128065630
So the Catholic Church didn't kill heretics?
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>>128065521
He was no fan of thieving liars, nor hypocrites, either.
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>>128065691
7. Calvin

A. General

"In the preface to the Institutes he admitted the right of the government to put heretics to death . . . He thought that Christians should hate the enemies of God . . . Those who defended heretics . . . should be equally punished." (115:178)

During Calvin's reign in Geneva, between 1542 and 1546, "58 persons were put to death for heresy." (122:473)

"While he did not directly recommend the use of the death penalty for blasphemy, he defended its use among the Jews." (123:102)

In defense of stoning false prophets, Calvin observes:

"The father should not spare his son . . . nor the husband his own wife. If he has some friend who is as dear to him as his own life, let him put him to death." (123:107/59)


Huh funny someone wants to be hypocrite
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>>128065681
>Getting your information about God from the Bible is retarded.
Get it from the guy who calls himself Father and directly disobeys the Bible by doing so.
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>>128065691
7. Calvin

A. General

"In the preface to the Institutes he admitted the right of the government to put heretics to death . . . He thought that Christians should hate the enemies of God . . . Those who defended heretics . . . should be equally punished." (115:178)

During Calvin's reign in Geneva, between 1542 and 1546, "58 persons were put to death for heresy." (122:473)

"While he did not directly recommend the use of the death penalty for blasphemy, he defended its use among the Jews." (123:102)

In defense of stoning false prophets, Calvin observes:

"The father should not spare his son . . . nor the husband his own wife. If he has some friend who is as dear to him as his own life, let him put him to death." (123:107/59)


Hypocrisy
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>>128065792
Tell me when the protestants agree on the bible

Oh wait they dont
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>>128051905
>abortions are bad
Culling the weak and shitty genes of society is preferable to letting them outcompete the useful people. Abortion is good and worth every penny, the real issue is hormonal imbalances caused by birth control meds. Christians have no real issue with those, however, they only care about sluts, niggers, and spics killing their offspring.
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>>128065181
Ireland, Spain, Argentina all Benefitted from Catholic Hierarchy In Their Countries thanks to it staunchly Preventing degeneracy.
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>>128065766
You are being the hypocrite. Once again you assume I care about an individual when I do not.
You however do care about the Catholic Church.
Did the Catholic Church kill heretics?
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want a true reformer? Look at Jan Hus

He doesn't add sola ego
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>>128065684
Implying true Western men need to answer to Asiatic White niggers.
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>>128065934
You are just a loser who hates the truth

7. Calvin

A. General

"In the preface to the Institutes he admitted the right of the government to put heretics to death . . . He thought that Christians should hate the enemies of God . . . Those who defended heretics . . . should be equally punished." (115:178)

During Calvin's reign in Geneva, between 1542 and 1546, "58 persons were put to death for heresy." (122:473)

"While he did not directly recommend the use of the death penalty for blasphemy, he defended its use among the Jews." (123:102)

In defense of stoning false prophets, Calvin observes:

"The father should not spare his son . . . nor the husband his own wife. If he has some friend who is as dear to him as his own life, let him put him to death." (123:107/59)
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>>128065896
Central and South America is a complete mess, so is the Phillipeans.
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>>128066068
If amerixan founding fathers followed protestantism this is the result

7. Calvin

A. General

"In the preface to the Institutes he admitted the right of the government to put heretics to death . . . He thought that Christians should hate the enemies of God . . . Those who defended heretics . . . should be equally punished." (115:178)

During Calvin's reign in Geneva, between 1542 and 1546, "58 persons were put to death for heresy." (122:473)

"While he did not directly recommend the use of the death penalty for blasphemy, he defended its use among the Jews." (123:102)

In defense of stoning false prophets, Calvin observes:

"The father should not spare his son . . . nor the husband his own wife. If he has some friend who is as dear to him as his own life, let him put him to death." (123:107/59)
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>>128064413
So what? I don't have "Brownzilian blood". Only European. Did I hurt your feelings? You mad christian cuck? That a Brazilian can be more aryan than you and more red-pilled?
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>>128066035
You assume I care about Calvin. I don't care about him.
You hate the Truth. You care about the Catholic Church who did the exact same thing you are trying to denounce.
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>>128066035

You really have an axe to grind. Who are you trying to convince?
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>>128066185
You hate the truth

When protestants are shown to be hypocrites you simply burry your head in the ground and simply say you don't care

It won't make it go away
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>>128066222
Can't handle the truth?
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>>128065884
>Culling the weak and shitty genes of society is preferable to letting them outcompete the useful people.

>Inferior people outperform

lmao. You're a nigger kang.
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>>128066350
B. James Gruet

In January, 1547 in Calvin's Geneva, one James Gruet, a kind of free-thinker of dubious morals, was alleged to have posted a note which implied that Calvin should leave the city:

"He was at once arrested and a house to house search made for his accomplices. This method failed to reveal anything except that Gruet had written on one of Calvin's tracts the words 'all rubbish.' The judges put him to the rack twice a day, morning and evening, for a whole month . . . He was sentenced to death for blasphemy and beheaded on July 26, 1547 . . . Evangelical freedom had now arrived at the point where its champions took a man's life . . . merely for writing a lampoon!" (114:176/61)

Durant gives further detail:

"Half dead, he was tied to a stake, his feet were nailed to it, and his head was cut off." (122:479)

C. Comparet Brothers

In May 1555, a drunken riot occurred, precipitated by a group which objected to the excess of foreign refugees in Geneva. Dissidents of Calvin were termed "Libertines."
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>>128066350
>68 posts by this ID

Somebody is triggered.
Tell us prot-boy, what denomination are you?
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>>128066285
Because many of us actually don't care about Luther or Calvin.
They have no impact on what my belief system is. They acted to move things away from the Catholic Church, that is the only thing I have in common with them
You are burying your head in the sand about the Church. They killed heretics. Do you deny it?
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>>128066521
8. Protestant Torture

As to the myth that torture was a tactic solely of Catholics, Janssen quotes a Protestant eyewitness to the contrary:

"The Protestant theologian Meyfart . . . described the tortures which he had personally witnessed . . . 'The subtle Spaniard and the wily Italian have a horror of these bestialities and brutalities, and at Rome it is not customary to subject a murderer . . . an incestuous person, or an adulterer to torture for the space of more than an hour'; but in Germany . . . torture is kept up for a whole day, for a day and a night, for two days . . . even also for four days . . . after which it begins again . . . 'There are stories extant so horrible and revolting that no true man can hear of them without a shudder.'" (111;v.16:516-18,521)

He gives also another typical instance of the treatment of Anabaptists:

"At Augsburg, in the first half of the year 1528, about 170 Anabaptists of both sexes were either imprisoned or expelled by order of the new-religionist Town Council. Some were . . . burnt through the cheeks with hot irons; many were beheaded; some had their tongues cut out." (111;v.5:160)
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>>128066572
>because I hate reality
>I don't care about luther and CALVIN but use them anyways
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>>128066068
Notice something about those places?
They aren't Europeans/Purely Descended from Europeans
THERE is your problem.
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>>128066572
8. Protestant Torture

As to the myth that torture was a tactic solely of Catholics, Janssen quotes a Protestant eyewitness to the contrary:

"The Protestant theologian Meyfart . . . described the tortures which he had personally witnessed . . . 'The subtle Spaniard and the wily Italian have a horror of these bestialities and brutalities, and at Rome it is not customary to subject a murderer . . . an incestuous person, or an adulterer to torture for the space of more than an hour'; but in Germany . . . torture is kept up for a whole day, for a day and a night, for two days . . . even also for four days . . . after which it begins again . . . 'There are stories extant so horrible and revolting that no true man can hear of them without a shudder.'" (111;v.16:516-18,521)

He gives also another typical instance of the treatment of Anabaptists:

"At Augsburg, in the first half of the year 1528, about 170 Anabaptists of both sexes were either imprisoned or expelled by order of the new-religionist Town Council. Some were . . . burnt through the cheeks with hot irons; many were beheaded; some had their tongues cut out." (111;v.5:160)
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>>128066492
Again, jump to naming people I don't care about. And copy and pasting stuff about them.
Let's talk about the Catholic Church. That's the issue here, that you want to remove attention away from.
Did the Catholic church kill heretics? Or do you just want to shift attention elsewhere to more people I don't care about?
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>>128064413
You live in Mexico... cought, I mean... The United States... ehm, same thing nowadays. That doesn't mean you have Mexican blood, does it? Well, maybe you're a mongrel, that explain your lack of convincing arguments, articulation and just straight out poor perceived intelligence. Whatever. Most Christians are incredibly shortsighted anyway, makes sense.
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>>128066572
And modern proddies DONT agree with each other eituet in what the bible means
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>>128066693
Man, you make a lot of assumptions about people in your argument. And those assumptions are completely off base.
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>>128066759
>i don't care
Which is simply a pathetic shield to hide from the fact that protestantism is an authoritarian shitfest that contradict itself to begin with
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>>128066759
8. Protestant Torture

As to the myth that torture was a tactic solely of Catholics, Janssen quotes a Protestant eyewitness to the contrary:

"The Protestant theologian Meyfart . . . described the tortures which he had personally witnessed . . . 'The subtle Spaniard and the wily Italian have a horror of these bestialities and brutalities, and at Rome it is not customary to subject a murderer . . . an incestuous person, or an adulterer to torture for the space of more than an hour'; but in Germany . . . torture is kept up for a whole day, for a day and a night, for two days . . . even also for four days . . . after which it begins again . . . 'There are stories extant so horrible and revolting that no true man can hear of them without a shudder.'" (111;v.16:516-18,521)

He gives also another typical instance of the treatment of Anabaptists:

"At Augsburg, in the first half of the year 1528, about 170 Anabaptists of both sexes were either imprisoned or expelled by order of the new-religionist Town Council. Some were . . . burnt through the cheeks with hot irons; many were beheaded; some had their tongues cut out." (111;v.5:160)
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>>128066955
Protestants CARE about the reformers and believr their shit
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>>128066970
No, I don't even consider myself a "protestant" I don't care about those people. You made so many false assumptions.
I'm glad those people figured out that the Catholic Church was wrong. But I don't care about them.
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Ub41EAJS

Is 30% of the posts in this thread. Someone is mad.
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>>128049484
That Inquisitor is not gods emissary you fucking Catholic nigger. Go get molested by your priest, faggot.
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>>128067154
Sola Scriptura aka the shit you believed in leads to those shit I presented

It doesn't matter if you care or not
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>>128067262


4. Scotland

Philip Hughes informs us that:

"In Scotland, 1560-1600 (then Calvinist), some 8,000 women were burnt as witches - the total population was around 600,000." (45:273)

This is actually, incredibly, 1.3% of the population! Projecting these rates to the United States, which had a population of 231 million in 1980, 3.07 million witches would have been executed from 1940 to 1980, or roughly the whole population of Chicago!
5. Bullinger

"Let those men consider what they are doing, who . . . decide that witches who deal only in dreams and hallucinations should not be burnt or put to death." (111;v.16:364)
6. Calvin's Geneva

"Like later Puritan governments, that of Geneva displayed an increased ferocity towards witches, of whom on the average two or three were burned every year." (121:164)

Nigger islam tier
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>>128067320
No, the only connection is that they created a scenario to show the world that the Catholic Church was a crap fest. And made it so I wouldn't be murdered by the Church for having my own opinion.
That's it, that is where the connection ends.
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>>128067393
The fruit of sola scripture
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>>128067488
And made the crap worse with the shit you believe in
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>>128067629
4. Scotland

Philip Hughes informs us that:

"In Scotland, 1560-1600 (then Calvinist), some 8,000 women were burnt as witches - the total population was around 600,000." (45:273)

This is actually, incredibly, 1.3% of the population! Projecting these rates to the United States, which had a population of 231 million in 1980, 3.07 million witches would have been executed from 1940 to 1980, or roughly the whole population of Chicago!
5. Bullinger

"Let those men consider what they are doing, who . . . decide that witches who deal only in dreams and hallucinations should not be burnt or put to death." (111;v.16:364)
6. Calvin's Geneva

"Like later Puritan governments, that of Geneva displayed an increased ferocity towards witches, of whom on the average two or three were burned every year." (121:164)

A example
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>>128063338
>Much worse Popes
Unfortunately this one will be the catalyst.
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>>128067629
Hahahaha, the world got a lot better after the reformation happened.
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I listen to Benedict.
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>>128067762
Thanks to something called the Enlightenment which own philosophy contradicts protestantism
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>>128067762
This is what happen if we follow protestantism

VIII. PROTESTANT CENSORSHIP

1. Overview

The early Protestants were not the champions of free speech and freedom of the press, either, as we are led to believe, any more than they were for freedom of religion or assembly - not by a long shot. Suppression of the Mass and forced Church attendance by civil law are examples of this intolerance of freedom of thought and action, which we previously examined. Neither was Catholic and sectarian literature to be suffered:

"With isolated exceptions . . . we find everywhere the opinions which are exactly in harmony wlth those of the territorial prince of the day, striving their utmost to suppress all differing views. The theory of the absolute Church authority of the secular powers was in itself enough to make a system of tolerance impossible on the Protestant side...From the very first religious life among the Protestants was influenced by the hopeless contradiction that on the one hand Luther imposed it as a sacred duty on every individual, in all matters of faith, to set aside every authority, above all that of the Church, and to follow only his own judgment, while on the other hand the reformed theologians gave the secular princes power over the religion of their land and subjects . . . 'Luther never attempted to solve this contradiction. In practice he was content that the princes should have supreme control over religion, doctrine and Church, and that it was their right and their duty to suppress every religious creed which differed from their own.' (64)" (111;v.14:230-31)
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“Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it." -Matthew 7:13, 14

If the Catholic Church was the real church, this scripture would not exist. Because many are in the Catholic Church. The gate is narrow, and few find the real truth.
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>>128049839
It's the original strain. The others were just created so Kings could divorce and fuck other women
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>>128068005
You failed to find the truth
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>>128067895
The enlightenment was a result of people getting away from Catholic dogma. It had more to do with the Medici bankers than Church teachings.
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>>128068094
"The Corpus doctrinae of Melanchthon had passed muster for a long time in Saxony, but on the occasion of the crypto-Calvinistic controversies the Elector Augustus forbade the work being printed . . .; the press control, which Melanchthon had advocated against others, now hit him himself." (111;v.14:506)

"In the Protestant towns numbers of preachers bestirred themselves zealously with the help of the municipal authorities to suppress the writings of all opposing parties. 'When first Luther began to write books, it was said,' so Frederick Staphylus recalled to mind (1560), 'that it would be contrary to Christian freedom if the Christian folk and the common people were not allowed to read all sorts of books. Now, however . . . the Lutherans themselves are . . . forbidding the purchase and reading of the books of their opponents, and of apostate members and sects.'" (111;v.14:506-7)

"The Protestant princes . . . loved and encouraged the censorship because, with its help, they could suppress the well-merited complaint against their robbery of Church property, or other self-interested deeds, or even criminal acts." (111;v.14:507)

"Violation of the orders of the censorship was everywhere to be severely punished." (111;v.14:234)
Fruit of sola scripture
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God created man to lord over Earth, why do you oppose God's wish's?
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>>128068105
I know that the Catholic Church which is a large gate with many in it, is not the truth.
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>>128068125
And away from protestantism

"The Corpus doctrinae of Melanchthon had passed muster for a long time in Saxony, but on the occasion of the crypto-Calvinistic controversies the Elector Augustus forbade the work being printed . . .; the press control, which Melanchthon had advocated against others, now hit him himself." (111;v.14:506)

"In the Protestant towns numbers of preachers bestirred themselves zealously with the help of the municipal authorities to suppress the writings of all opposing parties. 'When first Luther began to write books, it was said,' so Frederick Staphylus recalled to mind (1560), 'that it would be contrary to Christian freedom if the Christian folk and the common people were not allowed to read all sorts of books. Now, however . . . the Lutherans themselves are . . . forbidding the purchase and reading of the books of their opponents, and of apostate members and sects.'" (111;v.14:506-7)

"The Protestant princes . . . loved and encouraged the censorship because, with its help, they could suppress the well-merited complaint against their robbery of Church property, or other self-interested deeds, or even criminal acts." (111;v.14:507)

"Violation of the orders of the censorship was everywhere to be severely punished." (111;v.14:234)
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>>128068210
Protestantism is a kingdom that falls from endless schism
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>>128067393
>implying any real man loses sleep over uppity women who got out of line
Are you queer? Look into it.
The witches of 1560 are the pink and teal haired tumbleristas of today. They disrupted society then, and they disrupted it today.
They will get what is coming to them, and so will you if you don't keep your goddamn mouth shut.
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>>128067714
This too shall pass. All will be well, and all will be well, and all manner of things will be well.

>>128068005
That's more of an indictment on Protestantism than anything, to be honest.
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>>128068240
More irrelevant copy and pasting.
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>>128068299
KEK proves it
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>>128049484

The filthy old man child gay rape church represents only themselves.
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>>128068322

He's real mad.
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>>128068322
Tell me when the Enlightenment philosophy accepts that

I am waiting
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>>128068299
I'm not a protestant, as I already told you.
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>>128068440
More like you hate the truth
"The Corpus doctrinae of Melanchthon had passed muster for a long time in Saxony, but on the occasion of the crypto-Calvinistic controversies the Elector Augustus forbade the work being printed . . .; the press control, which Melanchthon had advocated against others, now hit him himself." (111;v.14:506)

"In the Protestant towns numbers of preachers bestirred themselves zealously with the help of the municipal authorities to suppress the writings of all opposing parties. 'When first Luther began to write books, it was said,' so Frederick Staphylus recalled to mind (1560), 'that it would be contrary to Christian freedom if the Christian folk and the common people were not allowed to read all sorts of books. Now, however . . . the Lutherans themselves are . . . forbidding the purchase and reading of the books of their opponents, and of apostate members and sects.'" (111;v.14:506-7)

"The Protestant princes . . . loved and encouraged the censorship because, with its help, they could suppress the well-merited complaint against their robbery of Church property, or other self-interested deeds, or even criminal acts." (111;v.14:507)

"Violation of the orders of the censorship was everywhere to be severely punished." (111;v.14:234)
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>>128068440
Not mad at all.
You just make assumptions that I care about irrelevant things.
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>>128049484
Semite superstitions are lulzy.

Why u no believe in WHITE ideas instead of KIKE ideas? Jesus was not White nor European.
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>>128068487
>proddie countries best because PRODDIE
>sola Scriptura is the only way
>both proven wrong
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>>128068570
You are a loser who hates history
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>>128050740
There is no way he actually said this
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>>128068637

now tell me a time when jesus did something wrong

exactly

the bible is the study of jesus

so therefore christianity did nothing wrong

get rekt
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The evil pope is nothing but a liar. Not a true Christian nowhere in the Bible does it mention the word pope. Jesus Christ is the head of the church. The intermediary is the Holy ghost not some rich man who spends hes days as some type of God on earth pope is a sinner no different from the any man
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>>128068637
"The Corpus doctrinae of Melanchthon had passed muster for a long time in Saxony, but on the occasion of the crypto-Calvinistic controversies the Elector Augustus forbade the work being printed . . .; the press control, which Melanchthon had advocated against others, now hit him himself." (111;v.14:506)

"In the Protestant towns numbers of preachers bestirred themselves zealously with the help of the municipal authorities to suppress the writings of all opposing parties. 'When first Luther began to write books, it was said,' so Frederick Staphylus recalled to mind (1560), 'that it would be contrary to Christian freedom if the Christian folk and the common people were not allowed to read all sorts of books. Now, however . . . the Lutherans themselves are . . . forbidding the purchase and reading of the books of their opponents, and of apostate members and sects.'" (111;v.14:506-7)

"The Protestant princes . . . loved and encouraged the censorship because, with its help, they could suppress the well-merited complaint against their robbery of Church property, or other self-interested deeds, or even criminal acts." (111;v.14:507)

"Violation of the orders of the censorship was everywhere to be severely punished." (111;v.14:234)
Where did Washington said this
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>>128061952
Where in the fuck is that anon? The vatacian? Shit......
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>>128068746
Tell me when sola scriptura doesn't end up in endless schism
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>>128068570

You misunderstand me. I was saying the copy-pasta machine is mad.
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>>128068637
You didn't prove either of those wrong.
Ireland was your proof that Catholic teachings make great nations.
And your evidence against Solo scrptura. Is that some guy I don't care about was as much of an a-hole as the Popes.
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I'm Lutheran, so the pope can suck my dick.
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>>128068889
I already did

Did the founding fathers do this

"The Corpus doctrinae of Melanchthon had passed muster for a long time in Saxony, but on the occasion of the crypto-Calvinistic controversies the Elector Augustus forbade the work being printed . . .; the press control, which Melanchthon had advocated against others, now hit him himself." (111;v.14:506)

"In the Protestant towns numbers of preachers bestirred themselves zealously with the help of the municipal authorities to suppress the writings of all opposing parties. 'When first Luther began to write books, it was said,' so Frederick Staphylus recalled to mind (1560), 'that it would be contrary to Christian freedom if the Christian folk and the common people were not allowed to read all sorts of books. Now, however . . . the Lutherans themselves are . . . forbidding the purchase and reading of the books of their opponents, and of apostate members and sects.'" (111;v.14:506-7)

"The Protestant princes . . . loved and encouraged the censorship because, with its help, they could suppress the well-merited complaint against their robbery of Church property, or other self-interested deeds, or even criminal acts." (111;v.14:507)

"Violation of the orders of the censorship was everywhere to be severely punished." (111;v.14:234)
Nope

Did sola Scripturists agree? Nope
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>>128068094
>We're the original strain because we retroactively bastardized initial church into being a part of Roman Catholicism
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>>128068889
Sola scripture IS SOLO Scripture
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>>128069006
Again, your evidence that solo scriptura is wrong. Is to list something that someone did was wrong.
That is false logic.
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>>128049484
>(((Purgatory)))
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>>128069017
Tell me when the early church Fathers sola scripture
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pol is not a Christian board. Religion is the ultimate bluepill
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>>128066602
hehe... sorry bout that.
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>>128061055
Those inbred rednecks are the lifeblood of America. What's really killing America are those retarded urbanite hipsters. They're killing Europe too, and have been for a while. Europe only recently acquired inbred rednecks in the form of Achmed and his 5 sister-wives (along with his extended family), and since Europe was already being destroyed before they came, clearly it is not the rednecks that are destroying America.
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>>128069117
It isn't

That is evidence of why that shit is stupid as the people who formed it can't even be consistent by that same logic
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>>128068850
if you dont believe in sola scriptura ur a retard

its not christianity its believing what some dudes made up

only the scriptures were moved by the holy spirit when they were made

nothing a catholic has ever written can claim this
thats why its not in the bible
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>>128049484
>thinks the Pope is God's direct mouthpiece and whatever the Pope says is God's word and law
you know how I know you are a non-believing heathen?
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>>128069293
APOLOGIZE FOR DESTROYING CHRISTIAN
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>>128069156
The earliest church fathers were the ones who wrote it.
The Catholic Church said that their teaching meant more than what they wrote.
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>>128069379
Nope

History shows that protestants are the retards
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>>128069462
They didn't

They deny sola scripture

Deal with it
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>>128069323
>He stills thinks I care about Protestants even though I told him multiple times I'm not one.
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>>128069430
Excuse me?
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>>128069611
>protestants used as examples as to why ANON is wrong
>irrelevant
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Guys...

Is a new version of Christianity being worked on? For example, imagine if we brought Christianity back by assigning a different meaning to everything. We could bring it back.

I'm also kind of high, so... hehe :3
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>>128069647
Protestantism destroyed christianity
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>>128069610
They don't deny it. Your Catholic teachers denied what they writers of the Bible, who are the earliest Church fathers wrote.
For instance, don't give anyone other than God the title of Father.
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>>128069699
Stop smoking Weedman
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>>128058391
No internet
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>>128069811
>PAUL called Abraham father
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>>128069676
Because I don't care about Protestants, that's why it's irrelevant.
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>>128069811
"Those, therefore, who desert the preaching of the Church, call in question the knowledge of the holy Priests, not taking into consideration of how much greater consequence is a religious man, even in a private station, than a blasphemous and impudent sophist. Now, such are all the heretics, and those who imagine that they have hit upon something more beyond the truth, so that by following those things already mentioned, proceeding on their way variously, inharmoniously, and foolishly, not keeping always to the same opinions with regard to the same things, as blind men are led by the blind, they shall deservedly fall into the ditch of ignorance lying in their path, ever seeking and never finding out the truth. It behoves us, therefore, to avoid their doctrines, and to take careful heed lest we suffer any injury from them; but to flee to the Church, and be brought up in her bosom, and be nourished with the Lord’s Scriptures. For the Church has been planted as a garden in this world; therefore says the Spirit of God, 'Thou mayest freely eat from every tree of the garden' that is, Eat ye from every Scripture of the Lord; but ye shall not eat with an uplifted mind, nor touch any heretical discord." - AH, 5, 20, 2
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>>128069922
>I hate evidence
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>>128069611
How can you not be one? There is Catholicism together with the Eastern Catholics, Copts, and Eastern Orthodox.

If you're not one of the above you're a Protestant., no matter how hard you deny it.
Tell us, why do you choose a religion you're afraid to fully confess?
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>>128069892
He didn't call him Father. He said he was the father to us. As in literally, he gave birth to them as a nation and as a faith.
It wasn't a title that he was using. The scripture to not call someone Father is about a title that you give someone.
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>>128069746
Yeah, I know.
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>>128070186
No, you don't get to define me. I don't fit in your box.
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>>128066068
>amerimutt calling other countries a complete mess
holy shit this is why nobody likes you 60% mutts
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>>128070186
nah im a christian too but im not a protestant

more of a non denom

martin luther and them believed in some weird shit too
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>>128067393
Damn faggot, how much copy and pasting have you done? Go suck a dick you triggered Christ stain. Hail Satan!!
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>>128070205
Where did Jesus imply that "father" is a title?
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>>128070110
I don't care about things that have no relevance to the discussion.
The discussion was about Catholics. You try to shift the discussion to be about things nobody cares about. Things nobody is trying to defend. And then you say, they are wrong for not caring. You are wrong for shifting it away from the actual conversation.
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>>128070487
Can't handle reality?
It is very interesting that Origen makes this statement in the context of refuting a secret tradition, thus giving this reference an ambiguous tone (just as that of Irenaeus, see Stroumsa, p.35). Origen makes a much clearer statement on oral tradition in Contra Celsum VI.6;

Jesus, who was superior to all these men, is said to have spoken the Word of God to his disciples privately, and especially in places of retreat. But what he said has not been recorded. For it did not seem to them that ‘these matters ought to be described at some length or orally for the masses’. And, if it is not an impertinence to speak the truth about such great men, I affirm that, because they received their thoughts by the grace of God, these men saw better than Plato what truths should be committed to writing, and how they should be written, and what ought under no circumstances to be written for the multitude, and what may be spoken, and what is not of this nature.
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>>128070509
When he said that God has a name.
The name wasn't Father.
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>>128070348
Sola scripture is retarded

Protestantism shows this
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>>128070520
Loser

When evidence against your shit is shown you cry that they are irrelevant

Pathetic
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Eats a dick.
Current pope is barely Christian.
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>>128070633
That isn't implying it dumbass
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>>128070654
where do you think christianity comes from

the bible which gets its authority from god

anything else is irrelevant and cant be authority

anything else is a liar like mohommed

u might as well be a muslim
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>>128070734
That is exactly what you did this entire thread.
The discussion was about Catholics. You did everything in your power to try to make it about Protestants. When nobody in the discussion even cares about protestants.
You spent the entire thread shifting the discussion away from the Catholic church.
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>>128070847
Didn't come from sola scripture or teach it
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>>128070947
My point was that protestants are inconsistent and are in fact doing the same shit

And nothing is addressed
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>>128070803
So Father is God's name?
No, his name is YHWH. Father is a title.
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>>128070333
>>128070348

You don't get it, the whole idea that you get to create a personal "Christianity" IS Protestantism.
You believe in unity with the Protestants, yet cowardly deny them at the same time, too brainwashed to ever realize you are one.
This is a perfect example of the blind leading the blind. Cast aside your idolatrous ways, your internal monologue adoration, humble yourself,
and follow Christ's bride, working out your salvation with fear and trembling.
Hypocrites.
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>>128071089
And because protestants are inconsistent

Sola scripture is also stupid
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>>128071089
No, your point was to shift the discussion away from the Catholic Church.
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>>128070576
I handle reality just fine, but obviously you do not....Hail Satan!

I hope you pray for me, faggot, like a good little Christ stain. Hail Satan!!
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>>128071094
Abraham as the father of Israel is also a title
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>>128071104
I don't "create" anything. Christ and the Apostles created it when they wrote it down.
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>>128071161
>no evidence
>strawman
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>>128071253
They disagree with the shit you spit out
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>>128071222
That's not how he used it though. He used it to say that he gave birth to them. That they were "Abraham's offspring"
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>>128071274
No evidence that you shifted the discussion away from the Catholic church to Protestants?
The OP is about the Catholic church.
Everything you wrote is about protestants.
The entire thread is proof of it.
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>>128070847
Who do you think authoritatively said certain books were Divinely inspired and others were apocrypha?
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>>128071352
He didn't

He simply said abraham was father
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>>128071496
And I show protestants doing the same shit and inconsistent
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>>128071496
Your right anon, it smells like some vile Jew sorcery is happening here...
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>>128071253
Then why doesn't everybody come to the same conclusions after reading Sacred Scripture?
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>>128071550
Lies!!!!
I put the exact words in quotation.
Romans 4:16
"to all Abraham's offspring" "He is the father of us all."
He literally gave birth to them as a nation and as a faith.
That is what it says. He gave birth to them.
He was literally their father. it's not a title.
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The hypocrisy here is astounding. Prasing the crusades in one post and denouncing the pope in another. Man you guys are weird
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>>128071802
And also.....

Oops
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>>128071104
all u gotta do is believe in him its not a complicated process to be christian we dont need interpreters telling us to do 20 things to be saved

>>128071515
god

supernaturally planned it so the bible would be the way it is

see you dont believe in god or his power you think its human controlled
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>>128071802
>father of US ALL
Didn't know he gave birth to gentiles too
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>>128071904
God supernaturally planned it that there is no free will

Predestubatiob
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>>128071856
Some guy wrote bunch of stuff he wants it to mean.
It's clear what the scripture says. It's clear as day.
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>>128071496

This entire thread is just him on a tirade.

>359 posts in thread
>123 posts by this ID
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>>128071945
"not only to those who are of the law but also to those who have the faith"
You didn't read what I wrote, i said to them as a nation and as a faith.
I wrote that exact line both times I repeated it.
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>>128072031
>scholarship
>some guy wrote a bunch of stuff
>ignores Paul's own citation right there
Genous
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>>128072159
It was a title

Deal with it
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>>128072159
Abraham did not give birth to gentiles stupid
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>>128072166
No, I wrote that exact thing all three times. I quoted it. And explained it each time.
Abraham was the father to them as a nation and to it as a faith. It was not a title. He gave birth to it as a father.
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>>128072159
God was the father of all things

He created them

It isn't a title
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>>128071904
You have no idea what you're talking about.
The Catholic Church decided what books (written by the Apostles) were Divinely inspired and which were not. The New Testament was literally created by the Catholic Church.
You didn't know this???
But I thought you "know" about the Bible.

More like you know all about yourself, and what you want.
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>>128072385
Nope

Abraham is the father of faith of believers

That is a title right there

Faith of gentiles did not come because Abraham made it
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>>128072419
He is given that as a title and it reserved for him as a title because of what he did.
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>>128072554
And so did abraham
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>>128072554
Paul contradicted JESUS for saying the same of Abraham
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