Sharia Law?

Sharia Law is what America needs. Seeing American want with all they freedom they ha e here makes me angry.

>>128049065
I'm not asking what you think Cletus. I'm asking about arabs, Persians and such.

yes,
he question is: at what cost?

>>128048842
Very few kebab here.
You're on the wrong website.
Baiting is easier on reddit.

>>128050387
Not baiting. I see plenty of Turks posting. Plenty of indos too.

I'm Muslim, and I don't really care for it at all. I'm not a big fan of Sharia.

>>128049065
This.
America is riddled with degeneracy

>>128048842
First, you have to know that there isn't one Sharia Law but multiple versions of Sharias according to the maddhabs.
I come from a Sunni maliki country, there we don't kill gays or apostates like in Saudi Arabia or Iran.

Also, I'm obviously totally against Sharia in the West, the West doesn't need it.
For a Muslim country, I think that Sharia has to be either soft or non-existent.
Religion should be and stay private. It shouldn't be mixed with politics.

>>128050641
Why the fuck are you Muslim
Are you retarded?

>>128051657
No.

>>128051657
You only think that being Muslim is retarded because you americans have a shitty view on Islam since 9/11. 60% of americans never talked to a Muslim sm h

>>128051723
Good job for keeping the faith strong in a country like the USA tho

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yes. i am all for sharia. i am also a muslimah.

many who oppose sharia are those who think its oppressive to women to wear niqab or burqa but it is the opposite. when i made the switch from hijab to niqab i never felt more free in my life.

also many who oppose are people who think it's OK to be homosexual, and many are sinners themselves who under Sharia would be punished.

maybe Sharia is incompatible with western values, however it is not incompatible with our own muslim nations. why does the west try to stop us from it?

id really like sharia to come to the US

>>128052241
You sound like a revert lol.

>>128052241
>niqab
You are the problem.

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>>128052457
i am a revert.

>>128052486
you are saudi and you dont agree with sharia ?
why are you OK with saying no to islamic law?

>>128052486
please saudi bros
1. don't make niqab mandatory
2. stop stealing our berber women
3. annihilate wahhabism
4. and I know it went from 50% to 20% in 4 years but stop cousin marriage.

>>128052709
>niqab
>Islamic law
Oh boy. I don't even know where to start. I'm not even sure it's not bait at this point.

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>>128052987
you don't think a muslimah should cover herself completely when not with mahrams?

>>128052963
>1. don't make niqab mandatory
It's not.
>2. stop stealing our berber women
How is it stealing it it's consensual marriage with approval of the woman's family?
>3. annihilate wahhabism
It's already dying out slowly. Give it a few years.
Your point about marriage, you seem to know more about it than me.

>>128053346
That's not Islamic law, that's Bedouin law. Go to Jeddah and see how many women hide their faces.

>>128053637
How much of Islam is stereotypically viewed with disinfo in today's social media?

The Muslims I'm friends with seem to live their lives pretty far from their own laws, is that a common thing?

>>128053346
Hijab is enough. Honestly if I was you I'd quit the niqab. Hijab + modest outfit is enough. Niqab is too Strange and not even an Islamic prescription.

>>128053462
Is it only the hijab that is mandatory in KSA?
And I don't know why Moroccan women love Saudi men so much desu

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>>128053637
jeddah is full of kafir and im sure you are one, too

>>128054075
you and i have had this conversation a couple of times before on here. i do not think hijab is enough.

>>128054004
A huge ass part honestly.
The basic wrong stereotypes about Islam nowadays is :
-Islam is a religion of peace
-You can't leave Islam without being put to death
-Islam spread by the sword
-Hijab is oppressive.

Muslim youth tends to be a little bit more secual than before except in Islamic theocracies

>>128048842
I believe that the Sharia law should be applied to Muslims only in Muslim countries.

>>128054335
I never talked to a revert on /pol/

>>128054004
Yes, even more so here. Muslims in Europe tend to be more extreme.

>>128054075
Technically even hijab isn't required. Just modest clothing. There used to be religious police that harassed those not wearing whatever the guy's interpretation of required clothing is, but for all intents and purposes they don't exist anymore.

Maybe they love strong providers? I'm not married to one so don't ask me.

>>128054335
>jeddah is full of kafir and im sure you are one, too
Your takfiri ISIS ideology is showing. I hope a burger here reports you to the FBI before you blow up a school or something.

>>128054092
Were you born that edgy?

>>128054475
But the Hijab IS oppressive. The more a woman is covered up, the easier it is to treat her like a piece of fuckable furniture, which is pretty much how muslim men treat their women in practice.

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>>128054591
is not true. i spoke to the same french muslim a couple times who speaks just like you and also advised me to not wear niqab for the same reason you did.

>>128055468
and your apostate is showing.
>Your takfiri ISIS ideology
i am very much against isis, thank you. they are the most unislamic. you should know all about them, though, considering your country funds them.

>>128055577
And that's bad how exactly?

>>128055577
Yeah and the more she's uncovered the more she's free? so much honesty
Go talk to a hijabi once and ask her she's oppressed.

>>128048842
It matters on what type of Sharia, If it's like Iran I'm cool with it, but If its like (((Saudi Arabia))) Sharia, then hell fucking no.

>>128055893
We're 6 millions here and all of us secular so..

>>128055577
Women covered in Hijab are really respected here. If the woman doesn't think it opresses her who the fuck are you to tell her otherwise?

>>128056119
Iran's sharia is tough tho

>>128055893
Ok I'll continue biting for the benefit of other anons. How about this? By Islamic law you are living outside Dar Al Islam. Do you know what that means? You are required by Islamic law (the interpretation that makes you takfiri and wear niqab anyway) to gtfo (perform hijra) and return to your shithole.

That's enough (you)s for you.

>>128056119
Have you ever stolen something anon? Be honest.

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>>128056298
>Bosnian hijabis
You don't know how lucky you are

>>128051071
I'm pretty sure your prophet would pimp slap the living fuck out of you but that's just me

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>>128056169
regardless, i will not stop wearing niqab. my sisters in my area & i wear niqab and we are very happy. we will continue to do so and continue to perform dawah in them.

>>128056423
really i just believe women should wear niqab/burqa. the rest i don't care much for. understand ?

>>128056499
i-is that halal?

>>128055927
>>128056029
>>128056298
Spoken like true mudslimes who spend their time burying their dick in their stockholm syndrome-stricken women.

Of course they're going to say "I'm not oppressed," because they'll be murdered, raped, beaten, or at the very least made a pariah by literally everyone they know if they do.

Your shit religion deserves to be brutally reformed or wiped from the earth.

>>128056499
It's not about oppression.
We should have our own ways to do that.
It's about cultural hegemony.
Quit being so deep.

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>>128051071
>Religion should be and stay private. It shouldn't be mixed with politics.

I agree but unfortunately Muhammad wouldn't. You cannot separate Islam and politics.

>>128056998
Enjoy your degenerate sluts fucking Tyrone on the side. Don't interfere in others' businesses.

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>>128056499
More like pic related, never saw those myself, she can't have her chest uncovered.

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>>128056800
it must be...

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>>128057310
>implying that the word of allah peebuh should be divorced from the laws of mere men

Enjoy your stoning and beheading, kuffir faggot.

>>128056998
Murdered, raped, beaten? What drugs are you on son?

>>128057494
I'll interfere all I want, oil monkey. Your religion is hideously repressive, refuses to change to fit the times, and it should be eradicated.

>>128057866
Try, fat degenerate burger. Last I remember every president of yours bowed to us, including the current orange one, and it will continue. Kek.

>>128057823
Amerifats only know Islam through media & terror attacks

>>128058153
He didn't bow.

>>128058153
Do you guys really marry your first cousins?

>>128057866
>Implying that telling women what to think, and not have an opinion themselves that's different from his own isn't opression

Time to sleep Tyrone

>>128048842
western law stems from biblical laws. it grew naturally as a process over hundreds of years, by becoming secular i'm not sure it has improved. european nations should have the same penalties for crimes etc

Fuck sharia

>>128058255
you are right -- he curtsied like a girl

>>128058255
I'm phoneposting or I'd post the webm.

Also I have no problem with based burgers. I do have a problem with cucks like that edgy faggot I was replying to.

>>128053462


>3. annihilate wahhabism
>It's already dying out slowly. Give it a few years.

Is Wahabism actually dying out in Saudi Arabia? You guys did a hell of a job exporting that shit to the rest of the world though, I can't see it dying out with the 'migrants' in Europe for a very very very long time man.

Wahabi and Salafi (yeah I know Salafi is not technically Wahabi) are the reason there's so many asshats willing to kill and die in the name of their religion. It's such a shit mentality, I understand that you Saudi's basically weaponized the ideaology and have managed to destabilize parts of the West using it but fuck dude, a Bio weapon like that will keep going and end up like the "others" from Game of Thrones.

>>128058430
>western law
>cut state from religion
>Sven says 'from biblical law'

lmao.

>>128058581

rate of 1-10 how much do you hate Islamic terrorists

>>128059636
your question wasn't meant for me but I'm going to answer anyway:
10

>>128058791
It's dying out in Saudi Arabia, don't know about Europe. Again it's hard for me to write a long explanation while phoneposting but the religious police is already gone. If you're interested in knowing more read about pre-1979 Saudi Arabia, the siege of Mecca, and what happened afterwards. Protip: the extreme elements didn't have their way until the 80s, and it's happening again.

Europe is probably fucked though.

>>128059856
What legit solution do you see to stopping so many people from killing/dying in the name of Islam? Like legit solution.

Bring back Ottoman empire mayhaps?

>>128059636
It's insulting to even ask that question. I was labeled a racist in Europe when I asked the natives why they were importing trouble.

KEEP religion and state away from each other.

Religious wars as seen in Europe and the Middle East are bullshit.

>>128060135

You're at least trying to warn these idiots.

>>128053637
Was in mecca, mostly hijabs not niqab iirc

>>128059954
Yeah I thought so in regards to Europe. That's good to hear it's dying in your country though. I just wish there was a way to reign that shit in.

A ton of people don't realize that the radicalization of mid-east countries is fairly recent.

>>128060135
That's sad, do you still care about what happens to them if the worst comes to worst and they start regretting all they let in for the sake of muh multiculturalism and anti-racism?

>>128059954
>>128060449
I don't think that wahabbism is that much spread out in Europe, even here they're in the minority and I can say they're mostly timid. They don't do anything but hang out mostly in their own groups and they pray differently too. Aside from the Qur'an they tend to follow the Hadiths strictly.

>>128060058
First : stop war.
ISIS was basically born out of war, political instability and ignorance. They only had religion left.
Second : Destroy ISIS ideology by showing them (like the 120 sheikhs who wrote a letter to Abu bakr al Baghdadi did) that theirs is totally opposed to Islam
But when you got a ton of Westerners dumb as hell yelling "ISIS is islam uhhh islam is evil uhhh" it's not only going to help.
3rd : Kill the ISIS members left

>>128061087
I was under the impression that the guys who jump up and go Jihad in Europe were Wahabi? If not please do correct me, this is important to know.

>>128060953
Not much, if cucks bring it on themselves then good for them. That's clearly what they want despite all the warnings. The only part that's a regrettable is that those countries are not safe for our families to visit (as tourists) in the summer anymore.

>>128061304
>First : stop war.
>ISIS was basically born out of war, political instability and ignorance. They only had religion left.
>Second : Destroy ISIS ideology by showing them (like the 120 sheikhs who wrote a letter to Abu bakr al Baghdadi did) that theirs is totally opposed to Islam
>But when you got a ton of Westerners dumb as hell yelling "ISIS is islam uhhh islam is evil uhhh" it's not only going to help.
>3rd : Kill the ISIS members left

You're right of course, but the issue here is that the Liberal Westerners who blatantly deny terrorism is connected to religion in any way would never let the moderate or right wing Westerners kill off all the ISIS bastards. Their political correctness is what allows the opportunities for terror and ISIS's zeal allows those Jihadi to carry through and be successful in pulling off attacks.

It's a lethal combo of pacifist Liberals bizzaro allied with extremist ISIS. So long as the liberals are so intent on being nice to their enemies I don't see how we can eradicate it.

>>128061087
Bosnia with native Muslims cannot be compared with countries taking in the bottom of the barrel pool of immigrants like Sweden. When I said Europe is fucked, I was referring to the latter.

>>128061342
Most likely, but I'm not sure myself. They tend to have long beards and they cut the moustache. But it's a wahabi teaching for sure that you can blow syourself up so you're not that wrong. Muslims aren't allowed to kill themselves.

>>128048842
Sharia isn't even implemented in Arab/"muslim" countries, it's a fantasy to have it there as much as it is to have anywhere else. """Sharia""" may be implemented in Western countries to deliver the final blow to their culture, but that's not something I want.

Also it's more important in Islam for one to act upon their beliefs (islamic prescriptions) rather than live under """islamic""" rule.

>>128051071
>Also, I'm obviously totally against Sharia in the West, the West doesn't need it.
This. If the West became 70+ muslim I wouldn't mind, but otherwise it would be unjust to impose a foreign judiciary system on them "just cuz xDDD ALLAHU AKBAR".

>>128061819
I see. ISIS must be described as how they are : enemies of everyone.
They killed : Jews, Christians, Shiis, Sunnis and non-believers.

So saying that Islam is the religion of peace is counter-productive, as much as saying that it is a religion of hate.

>>128053346
No offense meant to you sister but what are you doing online, I hope your husband (if you don't have one then idk who) is with you at least.
>>128053462
Kill yourself lmao, your fiqh is awful and shows you know less than reverts to this deen.

>>128061304
>when it's so simple on paper but when you try to lay it down the media shits on the topic even more

>>128061872
True. Even if I live in a shithole, most of the Muslims here are great people, disregarding the cesspool of militants we have in a few regions down south, you wouldn't even think that they'd be related by religion compared to those evil sandniggers being let in Europe like wildfire

>>128049065
FPBP

>>128062286
Daish are khawarij, some of their actions are Islamic yes, but that doesn't mean they don't make takfir that's out of bounds, doesn't mean they aren't mu3biroon and must be put to death by Islamic law.

>>128062242
>Also it's more important in Islam for one to act upon their beliefs (islamic prescriptions) rather than live under """islamic""" rule.

This.

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>>128062509
unfortunately i don't have a husband. i am a revert and neither of my parents are muslim, nor do i really know any muslim guys irl, especially single ones.

its quite the depressing feeling to be 22 and not married as a female.

>>128062509
>parasite in somebody else's land asking anyone to kill themselves
Kek. Have a (you).

>>128048842
Darwinian Eugenics

>>128022215
>>128022215
>>128022215

>>128062242
>Sharia isn't even implemented in Arab/"muslim" countries, it's a fantasy to have it there as much as it is to have anywhere else. """Sharia""" may be implemented in Western countries to deliver the final blow to their culture, but that's not something I want.
It's implemented to a degree in Saudi Arabia, Erdogan is cool too, but yeah Sharia is not really enforced, it's still obligatory though.

https://islamqa.info/en/974

This explains it quite well.

Comfy thread, as I like them.

>>128062630
Yes. Even the last prophet sw warned us about the khawarij threat that will instute in a "dawlat" with black flags while speaking beautiful religious words but do the total opposite with their actions

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>>128062792
Stop roleplaying

>>128062792
Well if you're a Salafi (which I assume you are by your posts) you should just go to your masjid and put out that you're looking for marriage, easy enough sister.
>>128062801
I'm a revert, idk why you adopt kufr nationalist ideals anyway, Arabs becoming munafiq in such large numbers really is another sign of the end times though :^)

>>128062980
Yeah, I refuse to call them a khilafah when their claim was refuted, they don't use prophetic methodology (bayah from a few tribes isn't the same as bayah from people with authority on Islam) and their """scholars""" are autistic larpers that were educated by the charlatan omar bakri mohammed.

>>128052241
What the fuck are you sandniggers doing in western countries?

You're always complaining about who we are, yet here you're living. Why don't you prefer Muslim countries?

Could it be that you all have no idea what you really want? There are plenty of Islamic countries where the women all wear niqabs you can move to - why do you prefer living here?

Fuck off.

>>128063364
Reverts exist, as she stated she was, pretty much every Muslim who isn't a complete moderate wants to move to darul Islam anyway, idk why you're creating this strawman of Muslims.

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>>128063016
>roleplaying
are you for real right now?

>>128063046
>easy enough sister.
how would i go about doing that? and my masjid is not salafi but i tend to lean towards some of the beliefs

>>128063364
>There are plenty of Islamic countries where the women all wear niqabs you can move to - why do you prefer living here?
implying i have infinite money. i barely make enough to live comfortably.

>>128063364
>sandniggers
It's someone roleplaying as a white convert.

>>128063527
I can't wait for the day where I can murder you, mudslime scum.

>>128062286
Exactly.

When people try to overcompensate for things they end up pushing the moderates in the other direction. US Politics (can't speak for other countries) have gotten so absurd that being a legitimate moderate (which is what most of the country is) gets you labeled a bigoted racist by the Left and the frustration leads you to places like this hell hole /pol/.

It's the same way the Shia Iranians radicalized during the Shah's reign, Western values were being forced on them and their own culture censored so they rebelled. There's no more sure fire way to push moderate people of any type toward fringe groups than censoring them.

I went a bit off topic there but yeah refusing to acknowledge the elephant in the room of whatever sect the ISIS guys are just enables them the same way hating millions of people blindly causes nothing but negativity.

>>128052486
Thank you.

>>128060320
That's because Mecca is the main destination for all the muslims around the workd. Duh.

>>128062630
>some of their actions are Islamic yes
Among which:
>killing prisoners
>killing believers
>re-established stoning
>torturing by fire
>killing outside of the battlefield
>lie about Albaghdadi's ascendancy
>commit shirk (widely explained by Imam Adnan Ibrahim)
>not to mention all the zina that's going on with foreign "fighters"

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>>128063578
>says the white convert girl who supports isis

>>128063630
Continue waiting then senpai.
>>128063578
>how would i go about doing that? and my masjid is not salafi but i tend to lean towards some of the beliefs
Talk to the sheikh about it, he can give better advice than a random revert online, he'd also act the position of your father since your father is (probably) a non Muslim I'm guessing?

>>128063675

>western values forced on them

Therefore we can murder muslims because they force Eastern values on us?

>>128063772
My parents also worked in jeddah. Pretty much the same.

>>128063815
are you a traitor or are you a foreigner just waiting to be sent back to the desert?

>>128052241
can you show this post to your husband so he can smack you properly?

>>128063772
Uh what?
I said some of their actions are Islamic, they enforce some of the hudud, which among those are stoning, which is allowed and if you mean killing outside the battlefield by a hadd punishment from the shariah then yes that's allowed, I'm still against them as they are mu3biroon and khawarij but saying they commit shirk and zina is lying, so you can't really do it, no matter how much you hate them.

>>128064003
"traitor"

If you're a Muslim and don't want sharia or are a Nationalist you aren't a Muslim :)

>>128064164
What if their in jahiliyya of these concepts?
They're just munafiqun not murtadeen.

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>>128063788
for the last time, i don't support daesh.

>>128063815
yeah, he isn't a muslim. and yeah i never really thought about that, it's a good idea - thank you. is there any way i can contact you outside of here or is that too much fitnah?

>>128064096
unfortunately im not married (yet)

>>128064140
oh even worse, if you aren't roleplaying you really are subhuman, our forefathers died so you could follow a paedophile and rape children yourself.

>>128064349
>yeah, he isn't a muslim. and yeah i never really thought about that, it's a good idea - thank you. is there any way i can contact you outside of here or is that too much fitnah?

If you have discord, I'd invite you to a public server but no talking in PM's because that's haraam.

>>128048842
This thread is already burning , just shit it down

>>128048842
Sharia is Allah's law. Denying this is kufur, disapproving Sharia makes you a sinner and rebel against Allah's word. If you are muslim, you should respect Sharia and you must accept that Sharia is the right way.

>>128064472
>oh even worse, if you aren't roleplaying you really are subhuman, our forefathers died so you could follow a paedophile and rape children yourself.

Quran 2:170:

"And when it is said to them, "Follow what Allah has revealed," they say, "Rather, we will follow that which we found our fathers doing." Even though their fathers understood nothing, nor were they guided?"

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>>128048842
>want laws
No why would I?
Do you want the bible to be law?
Probably not because its even more insane
>your
I believe society and the people would be much more happy and mentally healthy if they followed meme tier islam or christendom as we see in mediterranian.
I dont believe people are truly happy with the modern way of life, the meaningless and shallowness of it. A sense of community and belonging would eradicate the so called "degeneracy".
Humans arent born into degeneracy, they grow into it, mostly through failing to feel belonging, they dont fit anywhere and dont have a idea about anything, they find this lifestyle schlomo sold him, lures himself that hes happy and that he is "something", but deep down inside he knows that its just a cover up for his miserable life in the modern world, where he lives to pay tax and keep the system going.

>>128064560
This

>>128064495
salima#5086
alhamdulilah

sharia law IS Islam.

It doesn't matter if most Muslims don't want sharia law. Enough Muslims do want it, and they will die fighting to implement it. Other Muslims won't put up much of a fight, since Muslims don't stand for anything, because Islam has corrupted their ethics. A Muslim is a confused and blind beast.

>>128063943
Anywhere here not overcrowded by Bedouins moving into the city straight from a tent will be the same. So basically anywhere except the center.

>>128064597

>implying allah revealed anything and it wasn't just a crazy hermit looking for an excuse to have a bunch of wives

Okay love, go to Saudi if you love your religion that much.

>>128064560
It depends on the Sharia.

Allah's word doesn't punish apostasy by death for example. But some Sharias do.

>>128064597
>"And when it is said to them, "Follow what Allah has revealed," they say, "Rather, we will follow that which we found our fathers doing." Even though their fathers understood nothing, nor were they guided?"

10/10 for this brilliant answer. Also know that you're not alone. I know some French natives friends who converted years ago, they just tend to be discreet about it.

>>128063899
>Therefore we can murder muslims because they force Eastern values on us?
Non-cucks would've punched the very few who do in the mouth, doing us all a favour. But no, the West just had to be like it is.

>>128063943
Oh ? You taught me something.

>>128064107
>saying they commit shirk and zina is lying
It's not though.
>stoning is allowed
Please elaborate, I want to see just how ignorant you are on the matter.

>>128064164
>>128064759
Please tell me more about my faith, I need to know !

The day will come where you rats are put in the ground and all you'll find is that you wasted your time worshipping a false idol, most people grow out of having imaginary friends

>>128064875
>I know some French natives friends who converted years ago, they just tend to be discreet about it.
Willing to bet they did while in prison. A shame Le Pen didn't win, she would've restored the death penalty and rid her people of this cancer.

>>128064796
I want to go to Saudi actually.
You can insult Islam all you want and say Muhammad (saw) was just some crazy pedo but it doesn't really get to me, since I believed what /pol/ said and believed the atheistic arguments against Islam, I know getting into this kind of debate is stupid on this imageboard but why do you reject Islam to the extent that you do, have you ever actually considered for just a moment that the Muslims were right about everything?
Anyway, pretty pointless discussing it here.

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>>128065161
>most people grow out of having imaginary friends
what about deluded fantasies such as
>The day will come where you rats are put in the ground and all you'll find is that you wasted your time worshipping a false idol
?

>>128065161
Ok stalin

>>128065161
*tips fedora*

>>128062792
tired of these roleplaying non muslim that rewrite islam according to their expectations
pls change we're already full of morons like you

>>128065226
Le Pen for the next election, my baguette friend, she is what your country needs, if she cant win I fear Europe needs to use more extreme means to rid us of Islam. It's like cancer, it just duplicates and leeches off it's host until it strong enough to take it down.

>>128065049
I'm a Muslim too m'dude.

>>128065226
Tons of 'blacks' in the U.S who go to jail covnert to Islam almost instantaneously. The only catch though is it's the retarded version from Nation of Islam that's just a black supremacist movement.

I'd love to hear the Sunni or Shia view on Nation of Islam.

Note: Nation of Islam legit believes a scientist named Yakub created white people in a science experiment to bring evil into the world.

>>128065226
Nah. Mostly boys but they did after trying fasting.

>>128064875
>10/10 for this brilliant answer. Also know that you're not alone. I know some French natives friends who converted years ago, they just tend to be discreet about it.

Masha'Allah
>tfw the white race will be saved by Islam
>>128065049
>>128065049
>Please elaborate, I want to see just how ignorant you are on the matter.

IIRC Abu Bakr as-Sadiq (ra) believed sodomites needed to be stoned and it's a punishment for married women who commit zina to be stoned.

>>128064796
>go to Saudi
Fuck off we're full. He said he's a potato nigger, you keep him.

>>128065287
I have of course, I like to think I am freethinking, I have read the Qu'ran, Islam wasn't for me, I don't like insulting people really but Ireland is a secular country above all and I see them as a threat to secularism.

>>128065623
takbir brother

>>128063364
we're here to take over
deal with it
:^)

Sharia should be controled and imposed by a facshist goverment NOT by the brainwashed (((wahabi))) scum
Letting the ((imams)) decide what is sharia is the reason that led to the rise of ISIS idiots
It always leads to them using fabricated hadiths to use them to control the masses

>>128065507
Heard that black people were converting like crazy in Philadelphia
>>128065448
>Le Pen
Lol, have you seen her debate with Macron? She's empty, she have 0 skills except when it comes to pointing out the weaknesses of other politicians.
Even if she was elected she couldn't have done anything to get France "rid of Islam".

>>128065643
No, take him, you have the same problem with the Syrians, you are all for starting this shit but back out once you have responsibility, there wouldn't even be a mosque in Ireland if arabs didnt fund them

>>128065555
Man, every week in my local mosque, one brother or sister convert, mostly women though.

>>128065372
well aren't we all put in the ground eventually by natural causes? the day will come when you see it was all for nothing

All this question is pretty irrelevant.

You have "moderate" muslims who are so moderate they are basically entirely secular. Not much of a problem except that:
1. many still harbour muslim attitudes (violent tendencies, women as property etc)
2. if it came down to it they'd side with the other muslims not western people

For the remaining 50%+ of muslims in western countries, they are different levels of fundamentalist but at the end of the day they don't want to integrate. They'd beat or disown their daughters for marrying westerners, force their daughters in law to become muslims if they weren't, etc. They don't want to be friends with westerners or adopt western attitudes. They want to set up their own exclusionary "communities" ... they don't want to be a arab expat living as a westerner, they want to create little arab outposts across europe until they can take over the whole thing.

End of the day, for the majority of muslims in western countries, they are a threat to the western way of life, they don't hold our values, they have no desire to integrate, and many are willing to kill for their way of life, while intimidating and spreading it as fast as possible.

Ultimately they are a threat and need to be neutralised one way or another, preferably by deportation.

Forgetting ethnostate stuff, the only "safe" muslim is the nominal 30% who are too scared or stupid to give up the muslim label. The rest are an immediate and growing danger.

>>128065287
I'm not the guy you were talking to and i'm finding this thread super interesting but i'll tell you why I personally reject Islam and it's really simple.

I love beer.
I love wine.
I love cigar tobacco.
I love eating pork ribs.
Pre-marriage I loved premarital sex.
I believe women are equal to men in most regards (not physically and we obviously do differ to an extent emotionally).

Those are the honest reasons, beer on the weekends is heavenly. Especially when you've seen as much death in life as I have, it works.

>>128063364
What about white Muslims like me? ;)

>>128062792
>its quite the depressing feeling to be 22 and not married

Not a female, but I know the feeling. My friends are all getting married. Some will have children soon while I'm here shitposting my life away.

>>128065820
You import dung beetle and we provide dung. You should thank us.

>>128065804
She isnt great ik but she is better than Macron, all he wants to do is let more scum in, Paris is just a shit hole now, last time I was there I just had a bunch of female sandniggers begging at the eiffel tower.

>>128065888
>mfw when I see a beautiful white blue eyed hijabi going to the mosque

Of course the usual Muslim defense is along the lines of "Islam is better for society so its inevitable" ... to which one need only point to the last 500 years plus to see that it has not been a positive force anywhere it's gone, and (except for places flooded with oil money) it's basically a one way ticket to a regressive, non advancing, stagnant, poverty stricken, violent society.

>>128065965
>I love cigar tobacco.
So do arabs as i had seen saudi and uae

>>128066059
I'll thank you when you take the 60,000 muslims here from us and give them a nice house in Riyadh.

>>128048842
Which Sharia law?
>is the real red-pill question

>>128065995
> White muslim
AKA socially outcast moron and traitor

>>128052020
Maybe it's because there is data showing that the average Muslim supports implementing Shariah as law in many countries.

It might also have to do with Islamic countries not allowing the construction of other religious buildings whilst crying about how the west is bigoted towards Islam. Also, death for apostasy, blasphemy, etc. is also common in Islamic countries, or Muslim-majority areas. Hell, even parts of Russia with tons of Muslims have problems with extremism, so do the Philippines, Malaysia, etc.

>>128065744
Allahu Akbar
>>128065702
So you're just a weak faggot who's afraid Islam will threaten your degenerate way of life.
Fag

>>128065796
Wahhabi aqidah is correct though, if a "fascist" government enforces Sharia its not really Fascism it's just Islam then.
Have you actually read kitab at-tawhid akhi?
Also sufis commit bidah dont trust them nigga

>>128065960
Usually second gen immigrants take non-moderate stances
>>128065965
>I love beer.
>I love wine.
>I love cigar tobacco.
>I love eating pork ribs.
>Pre-marriage I loved premarital sex.
>I believe women are equal to men in most regards (not physically and we obviously do differ to an extent emotionally).

So you're a hedonist then?
If Islam is true you're betting a lot for these personal little pleasures in dunya senpai, I'll pray for you tho

>>128065507
>Nation of Islam
Never heard of it

>>128065623
>IIRC Abu Bakr as-Sadiq (ra) believed sodomites needed to be stoned and it's a punishment for married women who commit zina to be stoned.
That's how I know you're just LARPing as a muslim. Unfortunately, dropping technical terms in Arabic isn't enough, you should've at least opened a translated Quran; you would've known that God already established one punishment for zina-committing men AND women, married or not.
2/10 for the effort

>Abu Bakr believed
>implying he wasn't one of the most knowledgeable muslims at the time
Top kek. You guys aren't even trying.

>>128065888
Is that mosque near Paris ?

>>128066352
Every single place muslims go, poverty, violence, and extremism goes too.

But apparently thats just 1000 years of coincidences and Islam is fucking fantastic.

>>128066221
If they're Arabs (i.e. from Arabia) we'll gladly take them. Anything else doesn't belong here.

Chechnya only stopped bombing Russians because they got a ton of money to develop, Grozny is now a city on par with St Petersburg development wise but it's full of monkeys so it useless.

>>128066525
Thought you're not supposed to racially disciminate in Islam?

>>128048842
muslim here, no im totally against it. its an archaic constitution not unlike the feudal system or some shit. either way, state and religion need to be seperate

>>128066446
Orléans brother.

>>128058153
Teddy didn't. Step up.

>>128066327
>Social outcast
Well, sure, but you're on /Pol/ which is pretty much made up of social outcast s
>Moron
For accepting the truth?
>Traitor
To the Nationalists maybe but in the end Islam is better for everyone including whites

>>128066446
>That's how I know you're just LARPing as a muslim. Unfortunately, dropping technical terms in Arabic isn't enough, you should've at least opened a translated Quran; you would've known that God already established one punishment for zina-committing men AND women, married or not.
So you're declaring me a disbeliever without any evidence, this is haram, until you give evidence I'm a disbeliever you're gonna have to accept I'm a believer also unless you're a Quranist you'd know there's the punishment of stoning for married commiters of zina.
>>128066446
>>Abu Bakr believed
>>implying he wasn't one of the most knowledgeable muslims at the time
>Top kek. You guys aren't even trying
? What is even your point here, I'm using an opinion of a sahabi to justify a hadd punishment, i.e. throwing sodomites off of roofs then stoning them.

>>128066403
"If Islam is true" ... as opposed to the 90+% of people who've lived who've believed something else, coincidentally nearly always whatever they were born with?

Pretty funny that you're given one shot at a life where you can become whoever you want and do whatever you want and you choose to ruin your life and limit it by believing the superstitions of a dead warlord 1500 years ago all in the vain hope that your god will reward you. And not the Hindu god, or Christian god, or any other god who would punish you.

>>128066403
People should have the right to do what they want, what mohammedans think is degenerate, christians do not and jews do not and atheists do not.
But yeah, you'd have to have no life to pray 5 times a day to allah and not get to drink alcohol, sounds like an awful life, I did enjoy that one mohammedan girl I kept around once, shame she was messed up by her stupid ideology.

>>128066850
*tip* is all I can really say, not really much of an argument lol

>>128065049
>Please tell me more about my faith, I need to know !

muh faith, muh faith. You want to rape women and children, that's your faith. You pray 5 times a day for final victory, for a day when Muslims can commit mass rape on the infidel women and girls and probably boys too. I know all about your stinking faith, beast.

>>128066590
You're saying if somebody asks to enter my house I should let him in because he's a Muslim, so can't discriminate between him and my family?

Don't confuse different things. Arabia is the home of Arabs, Islam is the religion of Muslims.

>>128066446
Dude look up Nation of Islam the black's here love it. It's absolutely hilarious how stupid it is.

According to it White people used "tricknology" to oppress the superior black race. English may not be your first language but.... oh man, TRICKnology.

>>128066908
People don't have made up rights

>>128066525
>muh ummah is only for sandniggers

Sure just rape them and pretend they are arabs.

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>>128065161
m'lady

>>128066976
How old are you?

>>128052020
Uh huh.
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Cousin_Marriage_in_Islam
Islam itself is ugly in so many ways. Not wanting to see stupid looking mosques and hear the god damn wailing idiots all the time is a legit reason to not want muslims around.

>>128066967
Then don't make dumb "its a pretty big bet" arguments senpai

>>128066980
And Europe is home of Europeans so tell all your buddies to GTFO before it gets nasty

>>128067061
no, people that adhere to islam don't have rights, mate. are you a man or a woman? only a woman is weak enough to adhere to islam

>>128066454
Yeah, it's just a coincidence, Islam has nothing to do with it. Hell, even in countries where Muslims make ~50% of the population will you have extremism popping up already. I believe in Lebanon (split between Muslims and Christians), about 20% of Muslims support Shariah there. There was also conflict in an African country (I cannot recall which one), where it was also split between Muslims and Christians, but the Muslims wanted to implement Shariah. For Lebanon, you can search up the info on PewResearch, and Muslims views of Shariah.

You should also see footage of Christians protesting through a Muslim event with signs insulting Muhammad. They got thrown eggs, rocks, bottles, etc. by the Muslims. It was in Dearborn, Michigan, the biggest Muslim city in the U.S.

>>128067132
If they're qts I might consider it.

>>128048842
>Muslims of /pol/. Do you want Islamic law, impartial, or totally against it?
I believe some aspects of it lead to living a decent life, but all the death punishments etc, and anything that the clerics added in post 750AD should be removed immediately.

-Ensure rights for minorities again
-Ensure rights for gays (both masc and fem)
-Abolish Slavery of the Zanji
-Promote science and mathematics above religion
-Promote Interpretation and ban literalism, literalism is for the weak and narrow minded who cannot see in 3 dimensions.

also

-Women to cover up
-Fornication/promiscuity/adultery looked down upon, punishable by law
-Everyone MUST pay 2.5% Zakaat tax for the welfare of the poor. [Zakaat tax as 2.5% of total gold ownership/equivalent per anum]
-Mandatory community service for criminals
-Death penalty for: Rapists, murderers, pedophiles, terrorists.


>What's you're a opinion. Don't you want to follow your "holy book" and it's "law".

the holy book has alot of good in it, but also alot of things that can be taken and used for evil, it should be viewed as a historical document and NOT as a guide for life.

>It seems like if arabs really didn't want it there wouldn't be a problem over there. But since they refuse to pick a side we see this constant tug of war of violence.

i'm not arabic, i am persian, but i do agree with you.

>>128048842
Pashtun here
My people have a code a bit like this except its supposed to be much older and is relatively shorter. Since I immigrated to Australia when I was 7 I have had experience living in an environment where both of these systems were heavily enacted.

>Do I agree with these codes?
In an Islamic country I am fine with them being implemented. True Sharia is a restrictive policy to some people however it punishes degenerate behaviour like alcohol consumption, adultery etc. In short, if it is an Islamic nation then sure, sharia is fine.

However western nations should not have sharia as they symbolise a land of true freedom. Once can establish a islamic principles in their own home and property as is their right but never in society.

>>128065965
>I believe women are equal to men
>not physically
>not emotionally

cognitive dissonance: the post

>>128067293
I'm a man desu, you're going to end up a slave to someone, I'm a slave to Allah while you're a slave to immorality :^)
>>128067251
>Then don't make dumb "its a pretty big bet" arguments senpai
I didn't tho, my arguments for Islam revolve around the perfection of the Quran and criticism of the Bible when talking to Christians, but it's impossible to actually debate this shit on pol.

>>128067346
nice b8 cancer merchant

>>128067251
They're not our buddies mate, and they're not our problem. We're not cucks to let them into our countries, so deal with your problems yourselves.

>>128067406
do you really think any woman that could get a husband would be converting to islam for an arab?

>>128067510
Pashtunwali isn't sharia but it's cool desu

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>>128066046
>I'm here shitposting my life away.

>>128067251
>And Europe is home of Europeans so tell all your buddies to GTFO before it gets nasty
Why didn't you say that earlier? Wait a sec, I will just call them about this.

>>128067667
Who said anything about conversion? I'm allowed to sponsor non-muslim qts too to come here. That's what you said you wanted, right?

>>128048842
>Sharia Law
Not even muslims want that.

>>128067554
Ignoring the ridiculous fact that there are as many, if not more, clear scientific and other inaccuracies in the Quran as the Bible, one would also expect it to be way more accurate since it had a further 500-1500 years of knowledge to use in it's creation.

And proving Islam > Christianity (not that you possibly could) doesn't come close to proving that Islam is the correct ideology out of the millions of ideologies that have came and gone, and out of the infinite number that any human (pedophile warlord or not) could dream up given enough days in the wilderness or LSD.

>>128067227
>wikiislam
Plz amerifat... Islam's stance on cousin marriage is llike Christianity's : unspoken.

>>128066105
don't fool yourself they're second hand and convert because they want to feel they belong to something

>>128067554
At least you admit you are a slave, but I'd say I am a slave to my own mortality rather than the false belief in immortality, we are all an hourglass and once the sand is on the other side, we are gone.

>>128065965
>why I personally reject Islam and it's really simple
Simple is, indeed, the proper way to phrase it.

>>128066627
Really ? Huh. I might drop by next time I travel south, you got me curious.

>>128066976
That's all ? I would've sworn there was more to it than just this. You seemed so knowledgeable and full of yourself, I was sure you were able to provide something better than this poor attempt at provocation.
Come on, try harder this time. For all your dead brothers, including those who killed themselves.

>>128067021
Sorry, but there is already enough stupidity within the muslim community for me to enjoy this. It will probably just depress me more.
>tricknology
wew.

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>>128048842
I'll never be a mudslime, but honestly some of their ideas are pretty good. If we could start killing faggots and women who disgrace the family, that would be a good start.
Feminism and women's suffrage have been the slippery slope leading this country into the shitter.
I guess as long as we can be christian without your fucking dirt nigger non muzzy tax, I'm ok with it.

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>>128055927
You have much to teach us.

>>128067915
Only if they are niggers or muslims, the real Irish can stay here mate.

>>128067775
>the Kashmiri
Larper show your skin

>>128068030
Killing your own people for non violent crimes is a mark of barbarism.

>>128066403
The problem with wahabism is that it uses hadiths more often than the quran
While the quran is completly uncorrupted, the hadiths are not
Imposing sharia based on quran alone is the correct aqidah because the law of god is above all
Hadiths on the other hand we cant know the correct one from the corrupt one

>>128067775
Funny how you all seem to gang together as soon as we want to arrest or get rid of some of you fucks though?

>>128068030
>already showing signs of extremism

Good thing that's b8

>>128067538
>>>128065965 (You)
>>I believe women are equal to men
>>not physically
>>not emotionally
>cognitive dissonance: the post

Meaning they should be free and have all of the rights the same as you or I. There's no reason a woman should be forcefully controlled and i'll be dead and damned before someone thinks they can do that to my daughter and if you had one I'd hope you feel the same.

>>128067942
>Ignoring the ridiculous fact that there are as many, if not more, clear scientific and other inaccuracies in the Quran as the Bible, one would also expect it to be way more accurate since it had a further 500-1500 years of knowledge to use in it's creation.
>And proving Islam > Christianity (not that you possibly could) doesn't come close to proving that Islam is the correct ideology out of the millions of ideologies that have came and gone, and out of the infinite number that any human (pedophile warlord or not) could dream up given enough days in the wilderness or LSD.
I've seen most of the scientific inaccuracies of the Quran refuted tbqh with you, most of them are really shitty like the sun setting in murky water, the "hadith" to support this was proven to be daif.

And proving Islam > Christianity works on Christians you daft fuck.
>>128068004
Every human is a slave and only Islam understands this fully.

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>>128055577
>The more a woman is covered up, the easier it is to treat her like a piece of fuckable furniture
Oh God, my sides.

>>128068194
You know the meaning of larp?

>>128052486
are you actually saudi or a paki?

>>128068291
And what would be the major high points of Quran based Islamic law?

What I dont understand is that somehow God makes no mistakes, yet muslims are born with foreskin and told to cut it off.

>>128055927
BASID PAKI OP

>>128068459
Not required actually

>>128068354
Of course we are, but you don't need Islam to know that, everyone knows it, they just ignore it.

>>128068291
It uses ahadith.. usually it accepts hasan ahadeeth but this is pretty irrelevant, shar'ee rulings can come from ahadith, usool al-fiqh is derived (in my view) from Allah, His Messenger, The Sahaba and the Salaf in that order, when it comes to stuff like qiyas I'm unsure and since I'm not a mutjahid so can't really decide, Quranism, as it's called is haram, the Quran tells us to follow Allah and His messenger and we can see the sahaba and the salaf following Islam in this manner, we can tell which ahadith are sahih and which are daif, it isn't a hard process, this laymans view of Islam is why only scholars should discuss things like fiqh, neither of us can debate this since neither of us are qualified to, but still, being a Quranist is riddah.

>>128058172
-and through the amounts of extremists in the Philippines, parts of Russia, the Middle East, Africa, and the few that are in the U.S. that are coincidentally Muslim.

>>128062792
That's what you get for dressing like a bin bag you silly cunt

>>128068421
I'm a citizen.

>>128067346
Amen

>>128068734
Not to mention the hostility Muslims have to other religions in Malaysia and other countries with high percentages of Muslims that are not Islamic countries.

>>128068354
Yes like flat earth. How can you be this dumb?

The scientific knowledge of the quran is exactly what one would expect from a literate person of that time.

Why doesn't it contain the details of quantum mechanics of gravity or any discovery since?

>>128068459
>What I dont understand is that somehow God makes no mistakes, yet muslims are born with foreskin and told to cut it off.
It's sunnah, for one, secondly it's to show how one is in line with al-fitra, not like Allah azawajal is commanding someone to do something as if it's a mistake he made, autist.

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>>128068743
a bin bag who has more modesty and self respect than any kafir woman in your entire country

>>128068552
It is though, in most of the large schools of sunni islam.

>>128068830
>Yes like flat earth. How can you be this dumb?
What? There is no Quranic verses that support the flat earth, you need to literally twist fucking translations to come to this conclusion
>inb4 muh carpet layed out below you = flat earth

>>128068862
you're not really nice for a muslim, you usually pretend to be okay people in public.

>>128056485
Never stolen anything. Ever.

t. Christian

>>128068917
Wear a tent.
Marry a guy who can marry as many women as he wants and owns you completely.
Sole purpose to drop out kids.
All to be loyal to a religion that has ruined every area its been in.

How dumb can you get.

>>128048842
>muslims of /pol/
lol

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i have sympathy for burka/niqab wearers... if i had to live along side the type of men islamic culture produces i would want to cover my body completely as well. the children of ishmael cannot resist the traits given to them by their father satan

>>128069114
they are probably all LARPers desu, if you are real muslims send a timestamp with your Quran

>>128068917
Be my wife

>>128069207
I am real. 1 second

>>128068917
>Muh modesty
Wont matter when you die a poor virgin cause Muslims are literal retards :^)

>>128056119
>If it's like Iran I'm cool with it
Chances are you would already have been executed if that were to be the case.
They executed a teenager not too long ago for insulting muhammad on whatsapp.

>>128056298
anon pls get me a bosnian hijabi wife plsssssss

>>128069207
Anyone can get a Quran though, they're given out for free at most Mosques

>>128068965
So how do you pray pointing Mecca then? Hanging from monkey bars to go through the core of the earth?

>inb4 ... hold on let me just exclude most verses clearly calling the earth a flat bed/carpet/plain/etc

>>128069139
Okay Shlomo, son of Isaac.

>>128068923
This because if they don't they deny that they are sons of Abraham.

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>>128069086
>wear a tent
great one.
>Marry a guy who can marry as many women as he wants and owns you completely.
this was decreed by Allah swt, whose place is it to challenge the word of Allah swt? certainly not mine, or yours, or anyones
>Sole purpose to drop out kids.
women in islam are homemakers first and foremost. is this such a bad thing to be a mother?
>All to be loyal to a religion that has ruined every area its been in.
i am loyal to Allah swt, and might i remind you that muslim countries were fine until your western governments decided to invade and occupy them

oh, how large the fires will be on the day of judgement masha allah

>>128069223
too much fitnah and also haraam

>>128069453
I may get a few to burn then. meanwhile I'll just draw muhammad and have some beer.

>>128069519
>t. Butt hurt illegitimate son of a handmaiden

>>128069469
>So how do you pray pointing Mecca then? Hanging from monkey bars to go through the core of the earth?
>>inb4 ... hold on let me just exclude most verses clearly calling the earth a flat bed/carpet/plain/etc
That's an issue up to the scholars that they resolved really easily, you can twist the Quran all you want but you cannot prove Islam says the earth is flat, the earth has been known to be round for a long time, not hard to get this.

Also I pray by facing south east, what it says on the compass.

>>128068730
You dont understand how can we know the true hadith from the fake one i am not saying all of them are false or all are true i am saying we cant be sure
The quran was memorized generation after generation which means it cant get corrupted
Hadiths were not even mohammed prohibited the writting of his sayings

Some hadiths are fabricated and some contredict each other and others were twisted to fuifill an agenda

Do you not take the quran as the perfect words of god?
Quran 7:185] Have they not looked at the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all the things God has created? Does it ever occur to them that the end of their life may be near? Which HADITH, besides this (Quran) do they believe in?
[Quran 31:6] Among the people, there are those who uphold baseless HADITH, and thus divert others from the path of God without knowledge, and take it in vain. These have incurred a shameful retribution.
[Quran 39:23] God has revealed herein the BEST HADITH; a book that is consistent and points out both ways (to heaven and hell). The skins of those who reverence their Lord cringe therefrom, then their skins and their hearts soften up for God's message. Such is God's guidance; he bestows it upon whomever He wills. As for those sent astray by God, nothing can guide them.
[Quran 45:6] These are God's revelations (Quran) that we recite to you truthfully. In which HADITH other than God and His revelations do they believe?
[Quran 52:34] Let them produce a HADITH like this (Quran) if they are truthful.
[Quran 68:44] Therefore, let Me deal with those who reject this HADITH(Quran); we will lead them on whence they never perceive.
[Quran 77:50] Which HADITH other than this do they uphold?

>>128069735
Based Irish lads

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>>128069469
>his prayers don't go parallel to the ground

>>128069735
Woah you're so edgy bro, you've got me shaking as I type this, you're like the first person brave enough to say this to a Muslim online!

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>>128069312
>>128069207

>>128069745
That was a compliment, retard. Everybody knows Shlomo is a mongrel that in no way is related to Isaac more than any other Slav at this point.

>>128063016
I've seen your tripcodes all the time?
Which part of kashmir you from?
you muslim?

>>128069694
So your whole argument rests on

> I have decided Islam is right therefore Islam is right.

Lets assume, like 95%+ of people who've ever lived have, that Islam is wrong. What then? You've lived your life on the whims of a delusional child-fucking warlord from 1500 years ago to what benefit?

> i am loyal to Allah swt, and might i remind you that muslim countries were fine until your western governments decided to invade and occupy them

Were they? You were 90% desert dwelling beduins whose best achievements happened 1000 years ago until our oil money gave you some semblance of civilisation.

> oh, how large the fires will be on the day of judgement masha allah

Oh how fucking stupid you will feel when you realise you wasted your life on a superstition and have to reincarnate a few more times till you learn how to think for yourself, and be given lives where you experience the scorn and derision you give to 'kaffir'...

>>128068008
>>why I personally reject Islam and it's really simple
>Simple is, indeed, the proper way to phrase it.

Yeah it is and i'm happy you caught the deliberate use of that word.

Honestly, not sure how old you are or what you've seen but i'll tell you i've seen so much death in my life first hand (much of it violent, no reason to get into it though) that I really just can't believe in there being anything after this life. I would love to believe in something, but the chances of the universe being that remotely caring even if there IS something behind all of this seems so remote that i'd much rather enjoy my beer and my temporary existence and take a gamble.

Most people don't truly understand mortality and what it really entails. Consciousness gone for eternity. Eternity of nothing. Think on it long and hard.

I understand why people have faith, and to be honest i'm envious of those that do, but the weight of the dead is heavy as hell and I'd rather numb the pain a little every now and then with some beer.

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>>128069519
you wish kike-cousin

>>128070148
Srinagar and yes. And all the time? I have not posted here for months

>>128070046
In no way is calling someone a shlomo a compliment.

>Arab humor

>>128069894
ikr, it's so new to hate mohammedans, if anyone is edgy it's you "I dont drink alcohol because big brother is watching and he will hurt us all in the day of judgement ugh"

>>128062792
what state do you live in?

>>128069870
>You dont understand how can we know the true hadith from the fake one i am not saying all of them are false or all are true i am saying we cant be sure
>The quran was memorized generation after generation which means it cant get corrupted
>Hadiths were not even mohammed prohibited the writting of his sayings
Where did Muhammad (saw) prohibit collection of ahadith, also the ahadith were memorised just as well as Quran, they were just as stringent in methods of collection.

>Do you not take the quran as the perfect words of god?

I do and that is why the Quran gets the foremost place in itjihaad, but ahadith comes second to it and it's voice cannot be excluded.

>Some hadiths are fabricated and some contredict each other and others were twisted to fuifill an agenda
We know which ones are and which aren't if we find out one is that we previously thought isn't we change it, this rarely happens though and does not mean we can just exclude them from fiqh because of it.

>>128067683
that's what I said. Sometimes it tends to be more regressive.

>>128070312
>It's edgy not to drink something Allah has not made permissable
ur not even tryin senpai

>>128052020
Maybe if your people stopped blowing shit up people would give you smelly people a chance

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>>128070321
to respect my own privacy i won't say, however i am central timezone.

tfw muslims think we destroyed their culture even though a lot of muslim nations flourished under foreign influence, Persia for example, until they were overtaken by a ruler following islam and then they became mere relics of the past, wonder what caused that...

>>128070444
It's still cool though, some aspects of it not so much, but even the Taliban implemented it to an extent.

>>128052241
If you don't understand why westerners won't accept it then stay over there. Obviously it caused problems and it can stay on that side of the world.

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>all muslims outright going to hell when jesus comes for not accepting him as the son of god

ishygddt

they dont seem to be too worried

>>128070310
That he's Shlomo was a given based on his post, the Isaac part was the compliment.

Religious people haven't been following their religions books for centuries

>>128054516
Good thought.

>>128070777
Agreed, leaders that don't enforce sharia and modernist scholars are really ruining Islam :(

>>128070493
>allah made something not permissible
If it is so bad, how come he let us invent it ourselves?
Also it isn't permissable it is permissible, faggot.

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At least I can be happy when you all burn in eternal hell fire, enjoy your false god and demon prophet :)

>>128070525
Out of curiosity, would you marry an Iranian sunni?

>>128070269
I've seen your tripcodes in various indian threads. My Father is a pathan from anantnag district. Are you pro-seccesionist?

>>128070668
>Jesus
>Son of God
>even though he never said he was
Lmao

>>128070892
yes i would. if you would like to continue talking, message or add my discord. i posted it earlier in the thread.

>>128070856
>If it is so bad, how come he let us invent it ourselves?
>Also it isn't permissable it is permissible, faggot.
Because you have the choice to sin

>>128070907
>anantnag
Nice, and i am more of an anti indian army than pro separatist

>>128056800
>>128057555

Don't care. Eat 'em both, AT THE SAME TIME!!!!

>>128070892
Are you an Iranian Sunni?
Are you from Balochistan?
Redpill me on it pls

>>128070961
Verse from NT: "I and my father are one", etc?

>>128071136
bit of a design flaw there isn't there? why is he so obsessed with us following rules if he has the power to just make us do it? why do we even have free will if it is just an inconvenience to him.

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>>128070961
Matthew 16:15-17
He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

>>128071334
Nice.

>>128048842
get rid of any atom of semitism. christian / jew / islam, get all fucked

>>128071414
Nice x2

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>>128070856
this dunya was not made to be perfect. our dunya is not a paradise.

jannah is.

on the day of judgement, only those who are believers in Allah swt and are without sin will go on to paradise, where we will be free of sin and these worldly temptations.

the rest of you kufir will go to jahannam in eternal hellfire.

>>128058172

And from living with them.

You don't know us too well there frog.

>>128071508
I may be going to hell in a bucket, but atleast i'm enjoying the ride.

Orrrrrrrrr

Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.

>>128071378
He gives us commands and you can choose to follow it or be punished, not a flaw, idk why you're trying to criticise Allah in this manner it's really pointless, you seem kinda asshurt with Islam desu, did some paki cuck you or something smdh senpai

>>128071151
why so? I have no way of knowing how the situation is as the pakistani news makes the violence seem farfetched while western and india makes it seem like the kashmiri natives are chimping out. Is it really that bad?

also just out of curiosity, whats your tribe? rajput, jatt, gujjar, sudhan etc?

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>>128048842
As a white Muslim convert, I can assure you that Islam is best and will solve society. It is the only religion for true AnPrivs.

>>128069694
>this was decreed by Allah swt
He limited it to 4. Why don't LARPers do the bare minimum of reading before pretending to know shit ?
Whether it's jahl or nifaq, it's showing.

>>128070353
He said writing, not collection.

>>128070188
Didn't read. ^^

>>128070353
Quran 6:19] Say, "Whose is the greatest?" Say, "God's. He is the witness between me and you that this Quran (Not Quran, Hadith and Sunna) has been inspired to me, to preach it to you and whomever it reaches......
[Quran 50:45] .........remind with this Quran (Not Quran, Hadith and Sunna) , those who reverence My warnings."

Quran 6:112-113] We have permitted the enemies of every prophet - human and jinn devils - to inspire in each other FANCY WORDS (e.g.: HADITH & SUNNAH), in order to deceive. Had your Lord willed, they would not have done it. You shall disregard them and their FABRICATIONS. This is to let the minds of those who do not believe in the Hereafter listen to such FABRICATIONS, and accept them, and thus expose their real convictions.
Ibn Saeed Al-Khudry reported that the messenger of God had said,

(A) “Do not write anything from me EXCEPT QURAN. Anyone who wrote anything other than the Quran shall erase it.”

(B) Again, in the book “Taq-yeed Al-Ilm”, Abu Saeed Al-Khudry said, ” I asked the Messenger of God a permission to write his hadiths, but he refused to give me a permission.”

How can you be sure these ""scholars"" are saying the truth what if they are lie
Humans can do mistakes,humans can sin,humans can lie but god cant
If allah wanted us to trust the quran alone he told us its the only book that wont be corrupted til the last day
Do you worship allah or the hadiths?

>>128071508
oh thanks for clearing that up, mudslime.
Lucky Islam isn't the true religion or I'd be fucked.

>>128067554
>Perfection of the Quran
Dude that book is shit boring as fuck and rips off way to many stories from the jews and catholics.

>>128071734
You're way too young and impressionable to have a valid opinion on what is best for society. Come back when your testicles have fully descended before you join the Jihad like an idiot.

>>128071734
Hahah, is that you? you really have never seen a vagina in your life huh mate, you look like you've never seen the sun and have a sikh shave your hair with his dagger.

Western Sydney is already a sharia controlled zone. Aurburn has been for years. From here we will gradually take over the whole sydney basin, Insha Allah.

>>128071746
>He said writing, not collection.
Okay, it was still written down a lot later and there's no reason not to accept this for shar'ee rulings, don't tell me youre a Quranist too?

Honestly if you think you're any better of a Muslim because you're non white you've deluded yourself akhi