The DNC has split on climate. It's over for the granola dykes.

>>128036418
Any relevant links?

>>128036676
https://twitter.com/Sen_JoeManchin/status/870373888609271809

I wouldn't read too much into this particular senator's statement. He is a Democrat senator from West Virginia up for re-election in 2018, he cannot go against the interests of coal if he wants to have any chance of keeping his seat for another term.

>>128036418
People that actually read the agreement actually know that it's just going to strain our economy even more without actually accomplishing anything. The US already practices clean energy, just signing away our money is fucking retarded.

There's even a clause that states if the attempt to reduce global temperatures fails then "oh well, we tried :))))"

The only dems who will still kick and scream are the sensationalists entrenched in the democratic ratholes who depend on the bleary eyed vote of the uninformed who only left left for self benefits.

>>128037179
It was typical NWO shenanigans, Trump is right about how it would damage our sovereignty and send billions to China.

>>128036418
>implying there is a single coal-hating granola-eating faggot in west fucking virginia
was this your first election cycle?

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CNN's blown a gasket over this.

>>128036418
This is just one guy doing what his constituency wants. I don't think it represents a greater trend.

>>128037862
It does.

>>128037975
prove it.

all the other big democrats on are absolutely slamming trump

>W.V politician taking a centrist stance

You really know nothing about politics eh

>>128038421
Of course, that's their job, but the "small" Democrats who want to keep their jobs and realize that the "big" Democrats are destroying the party are falling into line.

Really who cares what Schumer and Pelosi think?

>>128038958
I do, the DNC doesn't. It's tearing them apart.

>>128037134
>if he wants any chance at reelection
He should just give up because he knows how fucked he is. With the amount of shit trump has done for coal workers there's no chance for this democrat to win

>>128038958
>centrist
aaahhh those where the days when that word was actually the norm

>>128039193
He takes Trump's position on most things. He was the only Democrat that was applauding during his speech to congress. He would be voted out in a heartbeat if he didn't, it doesn't mean a thing.

>>128039600
Trump's position is taken by more than a few Democrats lately. They realize with the supermajority and all that the only way they can bring home any bacon at all to their constituents is to play ball.

Places like NY and California will be the new rust belt, especially since election integrity and illegal alien roundups are both happening right now.

>>128037179
>The US already practices clean energy, just signing away our money is fucking retarded.
We are and have been one of the biggest polluters on the planet. We're better than we were 80 years ago, but e have a long way to go and a lot to make up for.

>>128036418
>worries that the paris agreement won't help Americans( or that of the rest of the world) economically and environmentally

See, this is a rational statement. You can debate how and where the effect of such agreement will occur. All this bitching is pointless.

>>128041217
>CO2 is pollution meme
go back to bed sweetie

Btfo

>>128042017
CO2 is pollution, but that's only part of the pollution we have created.

We have created hundreds of trillions of tons of waste.

>>128037488
Every media type reporting on this won't have even read the document.

>>128041692
That's what most people's views are. Part of the deal is sending billions to developing nations, it's why most of the people against are against it. Not only that, while we are pumping tax money into other nations we are also expected to kill off manufacturing jobs while China is held to way lower expectations.

Trump is dead on about this deal being bad for us. I'm all for protecting the environment and getting coal miners into cleaner and safer jobs but this deal would do nothing but hurt us.

Obama already sent them 3 billion dollars without Senate approval. It's a shit agreement. Trump pisses me off a lot but he made the right call on this.

We can save the environment without fuelling billions into the pockets of the mega rich like Elon Musk who stood to gain billions from it which is why he's throwing a fit.

>>128043155
this, checked

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Dems going to jail

Listen to your President /pol/

>>128042366
Prove CO2 is a pollutant.
You repeating yourself isn't proof.

>>128036418
A FUCKING WHITE MALE

>>128044203
Obama will be left to live in exile on that Hawaiian island that the State of Hawaii gave him recently.

>>128037488
>Less taxes will stifle energy growth

Who believes this drivel

>>128036418

muh votes

>>128044438
>Prove CO2 is a pollutant.
You act like acid rain and acidic run off isn't a thing. Also CO2 is a component of smog.

>>128045081
CO2 isn't even bad for the environment, it just means more plankton and bigger trees

MSM only talks about CO2 because they know every little kid knows CO2 is bad, but they won't talk about CO or even methane that comes from rice farms, or the insane amount of greenhouse gases coming from volcanoes, because it muddles the narrative

Hell, the largest greenhouse gas is watervapour, and their only theory for manmade climate change in regards for that is the idea that increased CO2 increases watervapour in the air, which has never been proven.

>>128037134
why doesn't he switch parties?

>>128044891
Taxes are the Democrat way of eliminating the kulaks.

>>128045727
Because the insane libshit leadership of the DNC isn't representative of Democrats as a whole any more.

>>128045684
they also forgot the overlap in absorption spectrum of H20 vapor and Co2.

>>128036418
FUCK WEST VIRGINIA. FUCKING BUNCH OF LOSERS. HERD THEM INTO THEIR PRECIOUS COAL MINES AND DYNAMITE THE FUCKING HOLES.

>>128045727
Because he's a real democrat concerned about the working class and not a bunch of whiny liberal snowflakes.

>>128045727
cause he doesn't have a pathological hatred of the poor like the Republican elite do

>>128045081
>Also CO2 is a component of smog.
it's also a component of the air you exhale
>kys and save the planet

>>128036418
Manchin is the bluest of the Blue Dogs. He's pretty based but he is from West Virginia and his constituency would murder him if he went against coal.

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I hope they don't appeal to the "never trump" faggots.

>>128037488

>LeNigger James: I'm only paid tens of millions of dollars ever year, WHITE PEOPLE BE RAYISS YO MUH BLACK PRIDE REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Time to start killing every last one of these coloreds.

>>128045081

CO2 is a natural gas that you exhale when you breath you stupid fuck. Plants use it. The more CO2 the larger and faster plants grow. Plants emit Oxygen. The more CO2, the more plants there are. The more plants there are, the more CO2 gets converted.

It's a balance of nature and it's working fine. You're just brainwashed and very ignorant.

>>128036418
Joe is just one man vs the dem block of bought and sold votes..

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>>128046750
they made a mistake going after a good chunk of their party, and likely the majority of the tax-paying membership of their party

>>128036418
>White
>Still in the democratic party in 2017
Has he not gotten the memo yet?

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>>128045081

I burn propane in my garden strictly to create co2, it's what plants crave

>>128046983
>he more CO2, the more plants there are. The more plants there are, the more CO2 gets converted.

this would make sense if there wasn't a massive deforestation issue on most 3rd world countries, including brazil and russia which have more plants than nearly the rest of their continents together

>>128047366
>yellow-ing leaves

fix your soil man

>>128045684
>CO2 isn't even bad for the environment, it just means more plankton and bigger trees
wow, you're serious.

We're converting trillions of tons of fossil fuels from hundreds of millions of years of development into gas in a relatively short amount of time. This does have an effect on climate and the environment on a global scale.

>>128046983
>CO2 is a natural gas that you exhale when you breath you stupid fuck. Plants use it. The more CO2 the larger and faster plants grow.
That's like telling people in a flood area that water is natural and there'll be more fish.

People don't breathe out tons of CO2 like cars do.

>>128045684
Exactly.. Plants need co2 to survive. How is co2 a pollutants if plants literally convert it to oxygen.

>>128048592
we're at a very low level of co2 historically anyway

we need more for the forests to flourish

>>128048149
>This does have an effect on climate and the environment on a global scale.

The question is how much of an effect is there, and the answer seems to be "we have no fucking clue." I'm all for environmentalism on principle, but there is (like nearly every political issue today) a degree of alarmism that far exceeds what it should be.

>>128048688

Yeah the "muh co2" is bullshit.

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>>128048149
>this does have an effect on climate and the environment on a global scale
Can you prove that? Not to mention, the Earth is still melting from the ice age so it's only natural that temperatures would rise a few degrees during it

>>128048703
>The question is how much of an effect is there, and the answer seems to be "we have no fucking clue."
only if you're willfully ignorant. You act like scientists from different fields aren't reporting on this issue en masse.

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>>128049010
Yep.

>>128048703
>I'm all for environmentalism on principle
Also, bullshit. No "environmentalist" would ever word it that way. You don't give a shit.

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>>128039337
Just like Democrats have won all those House races this year right?

Muh "blue midterms 2018"

>>128049341
I want clean public lands and waterways without pollution in the form of toxic bullshit so I can hunt and fish. The original conservationists were sportsmen and there is nothing liberal about this type of environmental advocacy. Giving billions to China and whining about CO2, which isn't a pollutant, is a liberal take on the matter.

>>128036418
Hes fucking right and so is trump

The Paris accords are a big fucking boondoggle like the un in general

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>>128049158
>Can you prove that? Not to mention, the Earth is still melting from the ice age so it's only natural that temperatures would rise a few degrees during it
That's your misunderstanding. Deforestation, climate change, failing ecosystems, pollution, litter, ocean acidification, and many many species becoming endangered and extinct is happening as a direct result of human activity.

We are in the "Holocene Extinction Event". We have total control over how bad it will get. We are having a profound effect on the environment.

>>128039600
>>128039337
WV is just a unique case

>>128049595
>I want clean public lands and waterways without pollution in the form of toxic bullshit so I can hunt and fish.
yeah, but, you don't want to actually do anything to keep it that way. You advocate for the opposite of what you claim you want because you're a coal industry butt puppet.

>>128047517

Yes the deforestation is a MAJOR issue. I don't buy into climate change. However less rainforests mean less oxygen content in the atmosphere. We need that. And we don't just kind of need it.

Sitting at around 20% oxygen now is not good. At 30% oxygen in atmo, we'd feel fantastic. We might live longer studies say, a good deal longer. We'd get sick less often. We'd be sharper in mind, as the less oxygen in your atmo, the slower and duller minded you become. We would heal 7x faster. No shit. They heal people in oxygen tanks, like professional athletes, just by giving them a higher oxygen supply to breath for a few weeks for a few hours a day. It works.

So yes deforestation is horrid. Mainly because we already do not have nearly enough rainforests. If we could terra-form the planet to produce more rainforests, if it cost ALL our money combined, I'd be livid for it. We NEED it. Humanity needs it. Period. And we are already woefully under oxygenated. We sit around 20%. We need to be around 30% oxygen in atmo.

>>128050214
>you don't want to actually do anything to keep it that way
Says who? I'm a member of the Izaak Walton League and Ducks Unlimited as well as a state group.

You're just a smelly cunted shill.

>>128037488
My god. It really is an alarming looking presentation. Fucking saps continue to fall for it

>>128050097
>virgin forest
so, it's been 100 years since the last datapoint there, and we now have more forests than we ever had naturally -- forest virginity must not mean anything, huh?

>>128037134
B-but I thought Dems were going to retake the senate

>>128046842
Hey lads. Doesn't the LeBron thing sound fucking staged?

Hey rabbi tier

>>128049341
>No "environmentalist" would ever word it that way.
this right here is proof of the environmentalism religion

>>128050097
New Hampshire here, I can personally attest to how bullshit your chart is.
>look out my window
>trees as far as the eye can see (nearly unlimited visibility right now)
>only one dot on your chart for my state

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>>128036418
>The DNC has split on climate.

Not really, it's one retarded senator only. The majority of people are giving Trump shit over this, and rightfully so since he did something very retarded.

>>128049595
>Giving billions to China

Holy fuck is this what you retards believe? China is literally the world's largest investor in green energy by it's own money and you think you're the ones giving them those billions? Keep making up lies to convince yourselves that what Trump did wasn't catastrophic.

>>128050097
Right but Co2 really isn't the most important thing. It fertilizes plants and makes them more resilient to drought.

We should be focusing more on land use, actual toxins like mercury, litter, and of course general environmental engineering.

>>128050406
There's more to environmentalism than shooting animals you fucktard.

>>128037488
>DOW races to another record
Only headline that matters

>>128050901
Not from my perspective.

>>128050427
another misunderstanding. We have destroyed ecosystems and created monocultures.

You act like deforesting an area doesn't also destroy the habitats, kills animals and smaller flora life.

>>128049573
>Salon
>saying something not retarded
wew what the fuck

>>128051122
Meh, go cry in France where they are going ahead with this deal. You'll be able to dance and play in their wilderness.

Please though, more salt, I don't want to interrupt your salty crying in here.

>>128050621
"I'm an environmentalist on principal" is a non-statement. It's like someone says "I'm sorry if I offended anyone". It's called a "but statement".

Someone who says that is not sorry.

>>128051181
They realize the their brainwashing took hold too deep and they are trying to walk back.

Look at the professor from Evergreen, he's doing it too now. It's too late for them, progress will kill them.

>>128037488
So has my town since it was mentioned twice in the speech LOL The liberal mayor is stomping his feet and saying he will abide by the Paris agreement no matter Trump says !!

>>128051394
>mayor promising to take town money and send it to somebody overseas
>promising to punish businesses
lol the democrats really are killing their own chances in 2018

We need to pound the pavement in WV to have this fencesitting, undercover leftist voted out later this year.

He left when he knows its safe, but appears more level headed in issues like this...he is an easy turncoat to have removed in the 2018 reelections.

>>128050901
Environmentalists really are a cult. Hunters do more for the environment in one trip than you whiny fucks do in a month.

>>128051526
LOL look at this Cuck's tweets still towing the Hildog bullshit

What a time to be alive !!!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/06/01/pittsburgh-mayor-calls-out-trump-paris-climate-agreement-speech/363466001/

>>128050665
Virgin forest anon. That means it has old growth forests that naturally formed over time without human intervention. It's natural.

If a paper mill or logging company comes along, cuts down a forest with vast biodiversity and replants a single "profitable" species of tree, it's called "agriculture". That isn't natural.

My state has lot nearly all of its old growth. There are barely any 100 year old trees here because they were all cut down for various industries.

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>>128051181
Can't figure out what dimension we're in. I believe that in one dimension out there everything if going great.

>>128051613
Environmentalism is just a strategy in the overall lefty plan, this is why they hate conservation oriented people who are conservative.

They want to OWN environmentalism and make it their thing.

>>128050766
>Holy fuck is this what you retards believe?
They believe anything the coal and natural gas industry tells them because they are partisan shills and hacks.

They don't make their own decisions because they are following the party-line political jargon.

>>128051719
is he gay? he looks gay

>>128036418
Bumperino

>>128051613
>Environmentalists really are a cult. Hunters do more for the environment in one trip than you whiny fucks do in a month.
No it's a sport. Environmentalism is about "leaving nature alone".

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>>128036418
Guy who's state relies entirely on the dying coal industry agrees with trump's decision....fuckin shocking

>>128052015
>as you spit party line political jargon
your slogan-oriented granola dykeism needs a refresh

anyway it's too late, you're fucked, you spent all your energy on COVFEFE instead of seeing what he was doing

4d chess again, you shills and the faggot media and the handlers all went right after the bait, how can they all be so dumb?

>>128048353
>That's like telling people in a flood area that water is natural and there'll be more fish.

Water seeks its own level.
Stop living below the sea level.

>>128052126
no it's about leftism

nature has nothing to do with it or environmentalist groups would have boycotted china ages ago

>>128052015
Tillerson and the other fossil fuel billionaires probably whispered a thing or two in Trump's ear before he made his decision.

Literal shills on here, they think a few cents deposited in their bank accounts and staying inline with partisan politics is more important than leaving a safe and green environment for your children. Even Hitler was an environmentalist himself and realized that there could be no future for the white race without proper care of nature.

>>128052344
>Water seeks its own level.
>rivers never flood and rain never falls.
Republicans.

>>128052452
Hitler was a conservationist, not an environmentalist.

>>128052032
My guess is gay he's never said whether he is married or not.

>>128050097
Bullshit map, the weasel word is virgin. Who cares if our trees ate sluts? There are more forests now than there were when Columbus got here.

>>128043155
Agreed.

I find it funny that the "environmentalists" are throwing a fit.

>We're going to build clean efficient modern coal plants that are almost emission free!

>NO. NO COAL. NO FOSSIL FUELS. NO NUCLEAR. SAVE THE EARTH.

>How do you expect to power the USA then?

>EXERCISE BIKES ATTACHED TO GENERATORS.

>>128052528
Being a conservationist is still the opposite of what Trump and you shills are. Hitler wanted regulations and to take proper care of the environment, you want none of that.

>>128052388
>would have boycotted china ages ago

Are you fucking retarded? China is the most active member of the Paris Agreement. It's the world's largest investor of green technology and has pledged to reduce it's CO2 emissions more than any other country, and I'm not talking about a certain amount of CO2 emissions, for which you can say "hurrr but that's easy for china", I'm talking about a percentage.

China is the country that has agreed to lower it's CO2 emissions by the highest percentage in the world, roughly 20%. The only country that came close to it was the US with 17% but now the US is gone. So China is pretty much fighting climate change all alone, that is why environmentalists aren't giving shit to China, but instead are encouraging it and thanking it for the steps it's taking.

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>>128052388
It's not about leftism. Democrats decided they wanted to be the new champions of environmentalism (which is debatable to how loyal they have been to this cause) and the Republicans in their predictable, nihilistic fashion decided they were against that due to the shitty political system we have in this country.

Environmentalism isn't a tit-for-tat political issue. It's not about partisan politics. But partisan hacks like Republican shills make it that way.

You're also implying that environmentalists don't have serious issues with China. China is a huge target for environmentalism, like most of the developing world.

Environmentalists want to help them "skip" the polluting part during their development if possible. They don't have to follow the same path as America fucking up our environment and creating "dust bowl" scenarios or wiping out or main food source like passenger pigeons like we did.

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I'm so glad i moved out of the city limits this guy is a fucking joke !!

>>128053091
>most active member
yeah they will get trillions
anyway they never planned to reduce toxins, just the meme co2 which they will do by planting a few trees

you're just so sore and salty, reeeeeeeeeee hahahaha

>>128053148
just say reeee instead

you'll save time and get more yous

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>>128053202
Kek gave me a sign and I moved my family to a very remote town with good demographics 3 years ago.

I've been so comfy, from Black Lives Matter through the anti-Trump brownshirt violence and to today.

>>128053250
>yeah they will get trillions

When will you stop making shit up? First you said that you were giving billions to China now China is going to make trillions off green technology, which is let's be honest less economically viable than fossil fuels?

>reeeeeeeeeee hahahaha

Literally kill yourself. You a fucking cancer to the planet.

>>128053155
Not only was was saying "Hurr i represent Pittsburgh not le Paris" was retarded but Pittsburgh didn't even vote for him lol.

He's a total imbecile, speaks without thinking.

>>128036418
Joe Manchin is a cuck hoping that if he follows Trump's lead enough he will be reelected. The people of WV will not forget traitor Joe helping to push Obama's antigun bullshit.

>>128053656
ree

haha

>>128047803
>Mexicans telling people how to grow weed

KEK. You can't even buy Mexican weed here in Maine anymore.

Yellow leaves, especially in bud are not indicative of any problem you pleb.

They were giving China 13 years to do whatever they wanted
They were going to demand the U.S. to immediately donate over $100 billion to the Green fund, while not demanding other countries donate as much or as fast.
They were going to use the Green fund money to send aid to "developing" countries AKA shitholes. They were not going to put any restrictions on these shitholes when it comes to digging coal, drilling for oil or natural gas, all so these shitholes could compete on the global market.
The whole thing was to make rich countries stop working as much and staying as rich so these shitholes could climb out of poverty.
Basically taxing the rich, while not taxing the poor so everyone is equal.

>>128053316
I hit a nerve I see.

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>>128037488
>DOW raises to another record
What did they mean by this?

>>128054136
Yeah, by fucking with my video games. This led to Trump's election and now our withdrawal from commie agreement after commie agreement. It must make you mad, otherwise you wouldn't be in here concern shilling.

>>128054229
it was the only piece of factual news they reported today

>>128046369
kys

>>128054061
>They were giving China 13 years to do whatever they wanted
we have a problem with foreign lobbyists and foreign money in our elections and Chinese money in world politics.
>They were going to demand the U.S. to immediately donate over $100 billion to the Green fund, while not demanding other countries donate as much or as fast.
Because we're the leaders. Everyone follows us.
>Basically taxing the rich, while not taxing the poor so everyone is equal.
You're mistaking rich people investing in these shithole countries while fucking over their own people that they don't care about.

I agree the framework for some of this issues is wrong.

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The same douchebags who are so butthurt about climate change sure don't give a fuck about shipping 90% of all consumer goods from China.
I'm sure those bunker oil burning container ships are awesome for the environment.

>>128054331
No one fucked with your video games anon, you can still make a black nazi avatar with boobs for your next raid.

I fucking love Trump. Fuck this globalist "Paris Agreement" scheme. The only point it has is to fucking put a hamstring on countries that abide it while nations like Russia/China and dozens more don't give a fuck and just break it willy nilly. It's a stupid, weak idea whose only point is to take away power from individual countries.

If you wanna fight climate change you're better off spending developing new technology and energy on your own than piss it away to Macron&Merkels little scheme.

The DNC is a mess today.

First Hillary vs. DNC staffers, then more email scandals, now this

>>128054694
>not knowing that gamergate is what fucked the left
you really are new

>>128054919
It's literally an ongoing dumpster fire at the moment.

>>128054919
Hillary's rant was fucking hilarious.

>>128049252
>only if you're willfully ignorant. You act like scientists from different fields aren't reporting on this issue en masse.
"Reporting the issue" is different from having scientific evidence. If you believed every "report" on the issue over the last few decades we'd have all drowned from rising oceans like a hundred times over. Beyond that I don't really give a shit about what scientists from "different fields" are saying, in the same way I don't give a shit about a doctor of medicine has to say about computer engineering. And when we still have environmental physicists that call the situation "climate alarmism," I think it's safe to say that there are still problems with the supposed "consensus."

Bummp

>>128054964
You give too much importance to trolls and video games anon.

Earth's climate has never been static.

/thread

>>128055112
And you think a bunch of faggot shilling will stop us.

We all have our issues.

>>128054519
The largest dozen of them pump out more emissions than every passenger vehicle on the planet combined .

>>128055087
>"Reporting the issue" is different from having scientific evidence.
uh, no. They are reporting scientific evidence you idiot.

>>128055222
but the desert pupfish! surely it will cure cancer!

>>128055018

Link? I could only read screencaps to interpret

>>128037488
>Trump to planet: Drop dead
If this were accurate my dreams would've come true. Sadly, this is CNN...

>>128054061
The 100 billion $ aid was part of a collective program between all industrialized nations you fucking idiot. It wasn't just the US paying it all by itself as you're making it look like it.

China just like every other country has until 2030 to achieve it's goal of a certain percentage of CO2 emission reductions.

Could please unironically kill yourself? First the "hurr we give billions to china", then the "hurrr they gonna make trillions off green technology", and now "hurrr were gonna pay 100 billion $" which is is no way true and there was never an agreement to do such a thing.

You know, you could shill for oil and coal companies without making shit up as you go, it's difficult since facts aren't on your side but it's possible.

>>128055598
>collective
this word alone lets me know communsim's involved

sorry we're done with that faggy shit now shlomo

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I am so glad they ran hillary as a candidate lol I feel proud to be an american again.

>>128055315
>uh, no. They are reporting scientific evidence you idiot.

Show me some indisputable scientific evidence that indicates the specific effects that human actions will have on climate change over the next century. What is the average global temperature or the sea levels going to be 10 years from now? Or even simpler, with specificity what percentage of the change in average global temperature over the last 10 years is directly attributable to human action?

>>128055837
They would have won with Webb but he was a fucking white male and probably not in the Clinton mafia.

>>128036418
>Joe Manchin
>democrat
>implying

>>128055707
>Gets triggered by single words

Neck yourself already, please for the love of god. Why are all anti-environment right-wingers so fucking retarded? Is this their way for getting back at nature since they realize it's the one responsible for making them so fucking stupid?

Just because you're an error of nature, doesn't mean you gotta take it all out on the environment.

>shlomo
>t. tillerson and other oil billionaires

>>128036418
>west virginia
gee i wonder why even a dem is for coal. thats hardly a "split"

>>128038421
>big democrats elections are safe
>little ones are not but are extremely important seats to democrats
really doggin my noggin

>>128055914
>Show me some indisputable scientific evidence that indicates the specific effects that human actions will have on climate change over the next century
Keystone species are extinct, forests have been leveled, the dust bowl happened, soil on farmland is eroding, etc. We have lots of examples and evidence and it'll happen again over the next century because we've done it already. We've already made the mistakes.

You choose to ignore them.

>>128056044
I see I activated your commie classism and desire to tear money out of everybody's hands.

No more of this, don't you understand? You will be reeing yourself to sleep every single night until you understand that the gibs ship has sailed and nationalism is the way forward.

Sorry you actually lost. Thanks for the shilling though, it's really effective at driving people away from your causes.

>>128041217>>128042366
>>128045081
>>128048149
>>128048353


kill yourself

>>128056397
no argument I see. Also, this coming from some faggy Frenchman.

>>128037488
those fucking niggers i swear

>>128055296
>The largest dozen of them pump out more emissions than every passenger vehicle on the planet combined .
I guess we have to sink them. For the greater good

>>128054016
>Yellow leaves, especially in bud are not indicative of any problem
On main stem leaves it does. It's a sign of deficiency. I can't remember of what though.

>>128045081
Water is a component of smog too if you want to equate smog with exhaust.
CO2 isn't what makes anything "smoggy", particulates and nitrogen oxides do.

>>128056519
the paris accord is pants on head retarded, allows china and india to pollute, forces america to pay up and limits considerably it's freedom to produce energy


just kill yourself

>>128048149
But what sort of effect? How do you know the effect is even bad in the first place?

>>128056044
Collective agreements all erode sovereignty because they set a legal precedent and framework for international "collectives" to create laws with actual power to impact national citizens lives in a way that supercedes their localized decision making processes

Basically, West Virginia doesnt get to make coal because D.C. and Paris said so? Yeah so much sovereignty you've got there

>>128055296
The fact that you never hear that fact mentioned speaks volumes.

>>128036418
Trying to kiss ass to coal miners to avoid getting primaried eh

>>128056634
Upping the CO2 levels isn't good for people anon. CO is an issue as is ozone, but you act like those aren't a by product of the same exact combustion process.

CO2 also creates acid when it combines with water. Excess amounts cause all sorts of problems, directly affecting people.

>>128052483
>when a river floods it remains flooded forever
Faggots.
The waters will die down as that other anon said, because sea level.

>>128036418
>world tries to kill the white race
>white race kills the world

STILL
NUMBER
ONE

SUCK IT SHITSKINS

>>128036418
Joe Manchin is West Virginia.
West Virginia is coal.
The Paris "Agreement" is anti US coal.
Manchin's position is obvious.

>>128056719
>the paris accord is pants on head retarded, allows china and india to pollute

>China has to reduce it's CO2 emissions by much more than the US
>B-B-B-B-BUT IT ALLOWS CHINA TO POLLUTE

I hope a refugee rapes you in the ass. Why are you guys so anti-facts when you could literally Google the Paris Agreement and see what it does?

Why the fuck are you so scared of reading?

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>>128056801
Because that carbon no longer exists in our natural atmosphere. We're releasing hundreds of millions of years of build up in a couple of centuries.

>>128056962
I know. that was my point dickhead.

>>128036418
>WV Sen. is against green energy
Literally nothing. Shit thread, move on

>>128056578
Or just stop trading with China and produce the shit here

>>128037488
I can practically hear the autistic REEEEEEEEE the author was spewing while he typed that.

>>128045081
CO2 is a component of air.

>>128056719
ty france anon, hope Macron doesn't sell you to the muzzies<3

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>>128045081
Humans and animal farts create more CO2 than anything else.

Plz help earth and kill yourself.

>>128057033
>>China has to reduce it's CO2 emissions by much more than the US
the accord allows china to build hundreds of coal plants while the USA can't build a single one


go kill yourself

>>128056835
>muh states right
>but gets triggered when Trump's muslim ban was btfo by state courts

Yes, that's how it work. Congrats on writing a bunch of nonsense. You don't live in a dictatorship, you live in a democracy and your leaders are elected to represent you. Obama was an elected leader based on the majority vote who agreed to work with other Western countries to help African countries, there's no "b-b-b-but i dun like him he dun represent me! elections don't matter!".

>>128045081
Acid rain =/= carbonic acid

>>128057300
So is ozone, CO, methane, water vapor, etc.

Too much of one thing, changes the atmosphere.

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>>128057088
Listen here, bigot. Not all carbon dioxide molecules are bad. Sure, a few extremists here and there may raise global temperatures a few degrees. But you can't just cut off carbon immigration.
The ozone is a racist, outdated structure and MUST be worn down in order for our planet to environmentally progress. Don't you want to be on the right side of history?

>>128057405
Literally nowhere does it say that you retarded mongoloid.

China has agreed to reduce it's CO2 emissions by 20% while the US previously agreed to reduce it's CO2 emissions by 17%, and they both had until 2030.

Holy fuck why are you guys so damn retarded? Please tell me this is bait, I just told you to Google the damn thing if you have no idea what it is about.

For the love of God and for the love of mankind's average IQ, please kill yourself, it would be a huge favor for everyone. I unironically mean it.

>>128057456
It's a form of it you shill.

>>128039337
>cancelled treatment for black lung

>>128036418
Manchin and other WV Dems are only elected because Republicans do one thing to upset the retards in the state causing them to turn on them.

>>128046750

>coal
>based

Yea, nothing like breathing in fucking soot and radioactive coal ash.

>>128056630
You're retarded or you've never actually grown weed. Those plants are clearly late in bloom. the yellow leaves is expected. I'd be surprised if they didn't do that.

yellow leaves in early bud or in veg could be a nutrient deficiency of some sort.

>>128050270
Is this a troll? How do you propose to get 30% oxygen levels?
The higher the oxygen levels, the easier forest fires burn. And thus oxygen levels come back down..

>>128057558
You tried™

>>128047366
nutrient deficiency... take care of those plants you stupid fuck.

>>128041217
If you kill yourself you can start reducing co2 emissions now

The people who have amassed enough nuclear weapons to scour the planet several times over, the same people filled Iraq with depleted uranium to stabilize oil prices are really, really super duper concerned about the environment.
>It has nothing to do with cementing the power of the Davos scum and making you poorer and having less political power.

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>>128057853
>"y-you tried"
>gives me a (you) anyways

>>128058037
aren't you happy? you can get off the internet and go outside and talk to people now.

>>128036418
can we churn the granola dykes into dog food now?

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>>128058127
>he's doubling down instead of simply not replying

>>128047803
>not knowing how to grow weed
>Mexico

duh

>>128050270
>we need higher atmospheric oxygen
You do realize at some point this would mean the eradication of the entire gamut of L3 photosynthesis path plants, right? You're talking the extinction of millions of species retard.

>>128057734
>Literally nowhere does it say that you retarded mongoloid.
it does, you fucking shill, read the fucking paper

>>128039337
He'll be fine. He represents what the Democrats used to be, a half-century ago. I guess he's a DINO.

>>128057734
READ
THE
GOD
DAMN
PAPER

>>128041217
Don't kill yourself. Your CO2 is good for plants and trees. Cut-off your fingers.

>>128058240
Are you lonely, anon?

>>128048149
Can you give me a reason to care about the world when it will be nigger central in the future. Unless shitskins get genocided I'm doing all i can to pollute this planet before we are gone

>>128058553
no.

>>128057734
you fucking retarded canadian faggot, read this

>>128043155

>>128048149
the niggers down the street is a more direct threat to me than the """changing climate""""

>>128058631
>Can you give me a reason to care about the world when it will be nigger central in the future.
yes. Give up conservatism, ban American christian "charities" from going to Africa, bring abortion, birth control and women's rights to Africa and double down on abortion rights and birth control in America and join the liberal white race in our victory.

Then you'll have a world you can live in.

>>128050766
We shouldn't be giving any of our money to develop shitskin nations

>>128051122
Except plenty have learned to adapt and new species of animal are still being discovered to this day

>>128058850

I hate those faggot charities so much.

>>128036418
Reminder: (((climate change))) is nothing more than a marxist front to push other agendas
this has been /pol/ consensus since 2012 (and /new/ before that)

>>128058825
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/08/03/searing-164-degree-temps-in-iran-as-heat-dome-traps-middle-east.html
Climate change, whether you like it or not, will make the Middle East and Africa uninhabitable and those niggers will move to YOUR country, Frenchie.

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>>128058276
>>128058342
>replies twice
>in neither reply gives the source

Yep, now confirmed for severe mental retardation. Poor frenchie, I bet bringing in some refugees will increase your national IQ considering you're around.

Here are the percentages anyway

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Agreement#Parties_and_signatories

China 20.09%, percentage of greenhouse gas reduction

US (before withdrawal) 17.89%, percentage of greenhouse gas reduction

China literally has to sacrifice more than the US, and it already has considering that it's now the largest investor in green technology. Yet there are still retards like you around saying "hurrrr durrr amurica has to do all the work! china does nothing!!!!!"

I still stand by suggestion, please neck yourself.

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>>128036418
It's over for everyone, unless you plan ahead.

>>128022215
>>128022215
>>128022215

>>128059116
>Except plenty have learned to adapt and new species of animal are still being discovered to this day
You're in denial.
>>128059131
Me fucking too. Fuck American "Christians" and their African "charity work".

As Trump ditches Paris, California is one step closer to getting wind power from Wyoming

http://www.desertsun.com/story/tech/science/energy/2017/06/01/trump-ditches-paris-deal-california-looks-wyoming-wind-power/362736001/

>>128053091
Hitler also didnt want to pay to uplift shitskin countries

>>128059270
>China literally has to sacrifice more than the US,
AND STILL IS ALLOWED TO BUILD MORE COAL POWERPLANTS THAN ANYONE ELSE

KILL

YOUR

SELF

percentages don't mean shit

>>128059197
oh so i guess better pay up that global direct tax then amrite?

kill yourself, nigger lover

>>128059197
>paying money to an international cartel of insane leftists in the name of climate change will destroy africa
lol

This Jewish agreement trump got us out of had quotas for niggers and refugees

>>128058711
>you stooopid canadian read this!!!
>his source starts with "Not only that, while we are pumping tax money into other nations we are also expected to kill off manufacturing jobs while China is held to way lower expectations. "

Hahahahahahahah, I show you the percentages and the fact, and you just pretend that they're not real.

Oh my god, no wonder France is going to shit with retards like you around.

That other guy also says

>the mega rich like Elon Musk who stood to gain billions from it which is why he's throwing a fit.

YEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH! FUCK MUSK! Instead, let's make those oil and coal billionaires which are much more numerous richer! I mean, who does the left have? Musk and Bill Gates? Lol we gotz all da poor innocent oil and coal billionaires wouldn't make a dime if this passed, :(((((

With every post you make, you gradually descend into even further retardation, and it's starting to be hilarious.

>>128042366
>we

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>>128059604
>4 replies later
>still no source
>thinks him repeating the same false claim is source

Keep it up, if you do your IQ will soon reach single digits.

>percentages don't mean shit

Never mind, it already has.

>>128059675
I'm not the nigger-lover. You are when Jamal and his family of 100 come to your country as refugees with the rest of the continent. Jamal and his brother will make an environmentalist out of you yet.

>>128059823
shove your percentages up your fucking ass

china is allowed to build and consume coal, so does india

usa must provide billions to other countries for no reason


the USA is leading the way in making pussies like you extremely butthurt

keep posting your retarded image reactions, trump is still president of the USA

>>128060013
Yes anon, YOU and all of the shit you've put in a landfill over your life is part of "we".

>>128060053
prove the (((climate change))) will do that, you stupid cunt

in so far no actual proof has been provided, only scaremongering

>>128050614
Yes. Didn't he "paint over" it before the cops arrive?

>>128036418
He has to say that because his state's economy is all coal.

Kike bitch merkel and kike slave macron are so triggered right now

>>128060410
They are going to do something rash, I can just feel it.

>>128060186
Part of Africa reaching 165 degrees isn't enough for you? Really? You think this trend isn't going to continue?

Right now, you're getting millions of refugees because of war. Later, sooner than you think, you'll get hundreds of millions of refugees due to environmental collapse. People will move. Why? BECAUSE THEIR COUNTRY IS 165 DEGREES.

>>128060119
7.5 more years.

>>128050097
>Virgin forests
It's not about morals here. The important question is: how much biomass is there using the air fertilizer co2 to thrive?
Answer: more and more. And this correlates highly with the change of the amount of co2 in the air.
(Before NASA became a lobbyist organization they've done some interesting research about it: https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/GlobalGarden/)

>>128060471
Death Vallley has been up to 201º cuck boy, that must mean that REEEE AMERICA IS DOOMED!

>>128039337
You don't understand West Virginia Democrats. They want pork barrel spending and welfare. They oppose all the big city liberal shit like gun control and fag marriage.

>>128060527
The biomass isn't growing fast enough to keep up with emissions, anon.

CO2 comes with other emissions too.

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>>128060119
>shove your percentages up your fucking ass

I already know that, when arguing with ring-wing anti-environmentalists, facts and statistics are of no use. No need to bring them up to you, you'll just cover your eyes and go "waaah waah waaah amurica has to do all the work china does nuffin"

>china is allowed to build and consume coal, so does india

So does the US.

>usa must provide billions to other countries for no reason

There is a reason, to combat global GHG emissions.

>the USA is leading the way in making pussies like you extremely butthurt

Sorry pal, but you being offended at my facts doesn't make me butthurt in the slightest, if anything, it's starting to be amusing.

>keep posting your retarded image reactions, trump is still president of the USA

So now we've moved from an argument about environmental responsibility to who the US president is? Fear not fear Jean, I didn't expect anything more of you :) It's only natural that you would steer the argument in another direction when you realize you got BTFO with your bullshit claim "hurrr china makes all new coal while us doesn't".

https://www.ft.com/content/3d9d0c78-ce7b-11e6-864f-20dcb35cede2

Read nigga, READ. I know you hate reading, but do it for once.

>>128060647
but people don't live in "death valley".

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>>128060659
This is your narrative and you're sticking to it.

That's very good of you anon, have a gold star.

>>128036418
west virginia is literally coal country

he would be a fool not to support Trump on this

>>128060757
People live in Death Valley you dunce.

>>128057023

A world without whites in charge is apparently no world worth living in.

>>128060933
>As of 2014, Death Valley (zip 92328)'s population is 281 people.
lol, no.

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>>128060526
Sorry, but Pence will be president before 2020 :)

Oh look, I forgot you were in the same thread. I found an anon just like you who makes shit up as he goes and gets triggered when asked for sources. You could get along very well with that french anon :)

>>128046369

WV is a white state. Whiter than whatever shit hole you come from.

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>>128059823
>a leaf
>leaf
sad

>>128061046
>281 people isn't people
ok dunce

>>128036418

>Manchin

That's just his gimmick, trying to look "bipartisan" by agreeing with everything Trump does.

>>128060119
wtf I love france now?

>>128060699
It's growing quickly and it's feeding people, especially in areas that are known for famine (not that I particularly like that).

As for other emissions: I partly agree but I haven't said that we shouldn't keep the air clean. But still: co2 is not a pollutant.

>>128061058
>pence will be president in 2020
source?

>>128060742
>So does the US.
wrong

under the accord, the usa is forbidden from building new coal powerplants

>There is a reason, to combat global GHG emissions.

this isn't the burden of the american tax payer or any taxpayer for that matter

it's america's money, americans choose where this money goes


you're a communist faggot, that much is clear now

>>128061058
kill yourself communist

have kikes ever been this btfo before,

>>128060471
People that are with this climate nonsense are the ones letting shitskins in. Merkel macron.

>>128051181
>our damaged democracy
>Democracy is dead because our candidate lost
This was pretty retarded tbhfimfam.

>>128061489
she cheated and still lost

>>128061058
I'd bet 10 grand makes it to through his full term. Hate him, have your opinions, but at least stay in the rhelm of reality

You're becoming more unhinged with every post, you leafs need to relax lol

>>128041217

No we're not. China pollutes more. Even if you measure it just by carbon output

>>128061530
No but wait until Trump arrests crooked Hillary.

Then the flood of tears will be at maximum.

>>128061253
I mean that no one wants to fucking live there. Imagine Central and North Africa with a population of 281 because EVERYONE MOVED OUT.

the EU, the paris accord, the multiculturalism, all of this shit is communism rebranded, literally

>>128061297
Only the coal industry agrees with you.

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>>128061046
>281 is the same number as 0
>The fact that the hottest deserts in the world aren't a balmy 72 degrees is proof of extreme anthropogenic global warming.

>>128039337
Joe Manchin is really well liked in WV. It would be hard for him to lose.

>>128061570
>People that are with this climate nonsense are the ones letting shitskins in. Merkel macron.
So the Frenchman better get on board.

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>>128061656
>Trump us gonna put every LGBTQQUIFXYSS in a cage and throw away the key! He's going to kill everyone with a Tumblr account!
>I've had it up to here with Trump's fear mongering
How has this waste of meat and oxygen not imploded from the fucking irony?

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Liberals look like collective retards for the 8 millionth time this year...

>>128061757
No, China is catching up fast. We've polluted a shitton in the past century.

>>128061839
We could stop feeding and sending aid to those countries but democrats and globalists can't stop helping muh poor genetically inferior subhumans.
Muh white mans burden. Trumps wants to cut gibs to Africa. Macron and the rest of the climate shills want to uplift the shitskin savages

>>128048149
an effect

but when ya boy elon is going to terraform mars, why should i care

>>128057436
Yeah, and people should pick leaders that will stand up to that shit

You're right obama did agree to all that and the US by extension, and now because of it democrats have less seats in state government than they've ever had period and Trump is president desu
>b b but muh blue wave in 2018
Not happening, Salon already admitted it, the democrats can rail on Trump all they want, they are going to pay the price for their actions, places like Iowa will never be blue again, ever

Honestly, I would say coastal liberals should just secede so they can continue the paris agreements as a new country but they're too pussy to actually do that so

>>128062030
The should oppose these nigger loving climate change loons and enforce the border. No one has to let them in

>>128058127
>>128058589
>46 posts in this thread

>>128061380
Another federal prosecutor dies surrounding Hillary, he was working a DNC case.... You little progressive fags need to pay attention and realize tis isn't a fucking popularity contest and Hillary doesn't really give a fuck about America or you.

>>128057033
The Paris agreement has quotas for shitskin and refugees

>>128036418
Fuck anyone who agrees with Trump/Bannon on this.

>>128039337

Manchin is pro-Trump, bizarrely.

>>128062807
>Fuck anyone who agrees with Trump/Bannon on this.

WTF, I love globalism now.

>>128061679
I meant about there being no "blue wave" or impeachment. That much self reflection is unheard of for such a liberal outlet like Salon.

>>128036418
>Manchin
>split
Fuckwit's a Republican in disguise from a coal state. No shit he'll support it.

>>128036418
stfu granola dyke

>>128036418
>West Virginia

The second-most pro-trump state in the union, of course he wants to agree with trump.

I created a helpful aid of all the countries in the #ParisAgreement

https://twitter.com/TimJabs/status/870391494162530304

>>128046369
I hope you come here and take a wrong turn.

>>128045081
>>128056318

What's the mean temperature over the last 1,000,000 years? The last 100? The last 10?

What's the temperature standard deviation for the last 1,000,000 years? The last 100? The last 10?

What is the probability that any difference in mean temperature in the last 10 years is due to random chance?

Virginia is very liberal, especially being right next door to D.C., so this is big.

>>128049252
>wilfully ignorant
So how much of a problem is it? Quantify it for me. How much are we affecting the climate? Climate change has always occurred and always will. So how much are we affecting a system that's already in a constant state of flux? How much?

>>128056630
nitrogen

US decision on #ParisAgreement is a major disappointment for global efforts to reduce emissions & promote global security.

https://twitter.com/UN/status/870384564824309767

>>128064014
WV is a weird state. Its ran by democrats, but the population is stanch republican.

TLDR:

Rural low IQ red states can't compete in the global economy, so they have to section themselves off from the whole world and all international agreements just to stay alive.

"Why can't my redneck coal town compete anymore?"

Too bad these people will only continue to get poorer, because the markets are what drive these things, not a bunch of hurt feelings about your long dead coal town.

Natural gas will rape coal all day every day.

>>128065389
Lots of natural gas here too

>>128065534
Which will still put WV into a state of economic depression, because a lot of people still rely on coal jobs.