Evolution

Because it's true, primitive.

>>128016077
Evolutions is true. Social Darwinism is the future

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let's hear from the one real theologian

>>128016077
evolution is true you dumbass. i can't prove wheter there is a god or not but i'm extremely confident that there is no point in whorshipping him

>From such a young age
Fuck off. 14-15 is the exact right age for the students to learn more about the theory for themselves. If you're a critical thinking student you'll accept the theory and leave your religion. If you're stupid and indoctrinated by your religion enough you'll continue believing your religion and die an ignorant nigger level intellect.

>>128020535
t. superior fedora wearer

Can't evolution simply be the way God created Man?

>>128016077
Evolution is true you (((retard)))

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>>128016077
>literally

As opposed to metaphorically?

>zero mention of any plausible alternatives

You completely failed to post any, faggot. You are why people laugh at christians. You are stupid. Christians keep saying that their religion will save civilization, yet you are still stuck fighting against high school biology. And are losing badly.

>>128016077
How about the idea that God created animals and the animals needed to evolve to survive ?

Christianity
>There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:28 NASB
Evolution
>At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace the savage races throughout the world. -Charles Darwin

>>128016077
>What are we supposed to do about the (((evolution))) problem?

The first edition of Darwin's Origin of Species does not contain the word evolution. Or evolve, or evolving or evolves. It contains a permutation of the word once - the last word of the book, in a poetic flourish, is the word evolved.

There is no evolution, because no one ever said it was. Layman use the word so much that even scientists use the word now.

There is common descent and there is natural selection - descent with modification.

This is what 99% of people trained in science and understand how the world works and live in nice houses in the suburbs think.

Uneducated dumbasses who live in shitholes who believe all kinds of inane stuff find it comforting that some supernatural father-like figure made them and they are special and so forth. There's about a million things in the human body itself to disprove this, including that we are obviously distant, distant cousins of chimpanzees.

>>128021285
Why would he go through all the trouble of 4billion years of evolution? youd think he would just snap his fingers and man would be created.
When ever there is a new explanation for something, religion seems to jump on it, disregarding their own stories.

>>128022958
We don't know his motives. We may not even be the end product. This could all be an experiment to create a universe and see if anything interesting would happen.

>>128022958

>youd think he would just snap his fingers and man would be created

That would be the case depending on what point in time you're observing from

There is so much evidence to prove evolution and there are still idiots that don't believe it.

>>128016077
Who is Ruth?

>>128016077
Tell us what you think Evolution is and why you think its wrong.

>>128016077
Why people care about whether they came from monkey or "gods" shit ? I never understood religion. It always felt like a chore i had to do as a kid because parents said so.

>>128016077
>look at me Im smart atheist
>random protein n shiet became life
>we wuz fish n shiet
>nothing caused nothing to turn into something

>>128016077
What are plausible alternatives to evolution? I am very curious.

>>128016077
The irony of a christcuck putting anything into brackets.
Move along, shouldn't you be somewhere on overtimes to make enough gibs to send to starving African children?

>>128027177

Just gotta know, you know. It's like an itch that never goes away

First learn the meaning of Theory. Then realize that science is based on facts and not your feels. You sound like an SJW op.

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>>128016077
>he denies the entire basis for eugenics
Creationists are cucks

>>128027366
T. Someone who's never read anything on evolution

I suppose magic man sacrificing himself to himself makes far more sense

Inb4 fedora

I'm a conservative

>>128022958
>when creating the whole of existence, you should skip the parts where it manifests its beauty by working like a clockwork towards an intended goal
Truly the opinion of a gentleman and a scholar.

His arguments makes sense if you're retarded and never earned a degree in STEM.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ikax0Y0NJsY

"Evolution" is just an illusion created by our linear view of the universe and time. It does not actually exist anymore so than five year old you exists, it's just an anchor point in time to justify our contemporary perceptions.

>>128016077
The bible is ((their)) book so you should re-evaluate if you want to let it overrule everything else

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>>128016077
>God is the RUTH

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>>128016077
Why is evolution even perceived as a problem for the church?

It's only a problem if Christians passionately take the Old Testament as truth, instead of viewing it with context as they're meant to. The Old Testament narrowly avoided becoming apocryphal and is only considered Jewish proverbs and mythology with some pearls of wisdom.

Even the Jews themselves view the whole damn thing with context.

Fucking protestants
>they follow the bible verbatim yet without actually being authentic Christians.

>>128029833
Nigga wot
>evolution is phenomena observed over time
This level of shit
So what, wind and ripples aren't real because they're a phenomena observed over time?

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>>128027852
>jack chick
My negger. /pol/ needs some real redpilling!

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>>128016077
OP why in the world would you think that God's name is Ruth? Do you imagine that he or she was named after a candy bar? I thought God was supposed to look like a man. Are you trying to tell us that God is a trannie who now calls himself Ruth.

OP is very confused.

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>>128031429
I love these. Thanks poland

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>>128031760
God is Babe Ruth.

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>>128016077
>Abiogenesis contradicts the Bible.
ftfy

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evolution isnt real big bang isnt real the universe isnt real other planets arent real

were living in the dark ages right now with atheists claiming to be wise but becoming fools

Romans 1:22
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,


theres only the flat earth, the firmament and the great lights that god put

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>>128016077
>evolution doesnt exist
explain this

>>128027177
>Why people care about whether they came from monkey or "gods" shit ?
It's human nature to want to know how things came to be. For thousands of years people have asked where we came from. Most cultures have a creation myth about how the world came to be, naturally most of them with their culture at the center of it.

Science tends to intensify that desire to know. It's a system built around explaining the world around us through observation and collection of evidence.

>I never understood religion. It always felt like a chore i had to do as a kid because parents said so.
I know the feel. I grew up Catholic. We went to church and recited prayers because it's something we needed to do. Then we went to confession to wipe away the sins of the week and be all clean for the next week.

What was missing from that, and what is the real attraction of religion, is spiritual experiences. Whether it's a feeling of reaching out to God, or an intense sensation of peace and oneness with the cosmos, it's an intense and beautiful experience. Ironically I had my first and most intense experience of this years after I left the church, through meditation in an entirely atheist context -- and finally understood what some people get out of religion.

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>>128032370

Evolution is a theory.

So is gravity.

Best way to test your faith is to jump out a window. Give it a try OP.

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>>128018437
>He doesn't do tectonics
Pathetic. Truly pathetic. For a Christian to deny the existence of a semi-solid lava Mantle under the Earth's Crust, literally Hell itself, you are an humiliation to the Christian world.

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>>128020535
t. tipper

>>128016077
Evolution is a fact you fucking moron, Darwin was highly religious you can be religious and understand this simple fact too you ignoramus

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>>128016077
>plausible alternatives

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>>128033047
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ahahahaha fucking kys

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>>128031266
Consider this painting.
It tells a story, whose past and future our mind fills in, even if they are not depicted. The shipwreck that placed these men on this raft did not actually occur, nor does their eventual rescue, it is only implied ephemerally by the painter's brush.

We are like the men in this painting, if you question us, you can hear the tale that supposedly led to our placement in this tableaux, and if you examine our surroundings you can puzzle out a glimpse of our past and our future, but none of those things actually exist, only the painting is real, and that painting was created, despite our testimony to the contrary, and all the evidence of narrative the painting contains within.

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>>128032695
>ended up in Nazi ovens.

>>128033810
That is what you infer from looking at what's depicted in the painting. However we can also infer from looking at it that it is a painting. We can then infer that it was created by a person applying oil paints to a canvas using a brush. And I think you'll agree that most likely actually happened.

I don't see what the problem is, you can still have good just fine with evolution.

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>>128020535
Darwinian evolution is a fucking religion down to the wire. It's not experimental science, but rather natural history or philosophy.
Also Darwinian evolution =/= Natural selection
Darwinian evolution is taught in a way completely devoid of critical thinking.

>>128016077
We'll it's probably due to the fact evolution is the only scientific explanation as to why humans exist. It's a lot more plausible than the fairy tale alternative.

>>128033541
t. nazi muslim catholic gay communist satanic paleontologist

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>>128034900
nah god makin it is p scientific if you ask me

>>128016077
>zero mention of any plausible alternatives
Because the alternatives are not very plausible. You have a book that says God created the world in 7 days, and you know it's true because it says it's true. Well, I have a book that says I am god, that I created the world in the year 1950, and that I created everything you see that's older than 1950 just to fool you. And I know it's true because it says it is, and it also says it's an infallible book.

If you're going to teach creation, you also need to teach my theory. It's equally plausible as yours. There's exactly as much evidence that it's true.

Also, (((parentheses))) are not used for emphasis, retard.

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Jack Chick is an insane retard.

>>128034651
>However we can also infer from looking at it that it is a painting. We can then infer that it was created by a person applying oil paints to a canvas using a brush.

Correct.
That is because we are outside of the painting, and we view it from that perspective. We are not outside the universe however, and cannot gain the same dispassionate view where the brush strokes are plainly there for us to see. Perhaps if we shared God's perspective the true mechanisms of our creation would be equally as transparent and obvious.

>>128036592
>brush strokes are plainly there for us to see
mind giving an example?

>>128036592
The same logic supports the argument that we're in a massive computer simulation too. But since we by definition cannot look at the universe from outside, there is no evidence for or against. It's not falsifiable in any way. That makes it no more plausible than if I claim that there's a massive invisible teapot in space.

>>128036919
I cannot, because I am saying that since we are in the metaphorical painting we cannot separate ourselves from it and view the "brush strokes" that arrange us.

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>>128020535

>>128037325
If that is your point of view, how can you ever say anything meaningful about God?
It's pure conjecture at that point.

>>128022223
Yeah, but that didn't happen. More like the reverse!

>>128020535
>evolution being incompatible with Christianity
God is powerful, and God knows all in a epistemologically pure manner. Then, in His might, what stops him from just creating the world in a way that it constructs itself in the way He wants? It's important to remember most of the Old Testament is just kike law.

>>128016077
Bait. God is real, evolution is real. you are a dumbass.

sage.

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>>128018437
>Not knowing about tectonics
This makes my head hurt. Christfags are truly uneducated retards.

>>128037198
>le Russell teapot meme
4chan thinks it's spam when I say that's literally what someone from reddit would say.

>i-it's not falsifiable
Neither is justice, love, dignity, or meaning, but I prefer to live in a world that has those things within it, rather than one composed solely of that which can be measured by mentally maladjusted nihilists armed with scales and rulers.

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the bible and evolution are incompatible

god created the sun after creating the earth and the grass and the trees meaning there was no photosynthesis

deal with it evolution cuckstains

you dont believe in god

>>128037624
I don't claim to say anything meaningful about God other than I believe He exists.

With all the the bill nye bullshit we have a chance to establish the right as the pro science side (and the left as the pro dogmaic bullshit side), but you fucking christcucks want to fucking spoil it because "MUH 2000 YEAR OLD KIKE BOOK" kill yourselves.

>>128038468
Christfags and SJWs are intellectual brothers

>>128016077
It's people like you who give burgers a bad name with your nigger-tier intellect.

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>>128031778
lel

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>>128016077
Fucking sub 90IQ retard.

Evolutionary biology is literally our best hope of survival and the force that (((they))) are struggling against.

Gas yourself nigger.

>>128038244
>4chan thinks it's spam when I say that's literally what someone from reddit would say.
A strawman doesn't counter an argument. Yes it's a meme, but it's a valid point. If you allow one unfalsifiable theory with no solid evidence, you have no way to reject any other crackpot theory with no evidence. If you teach creation, I might insist you also teach the possibility that cosmic unicorns put us here ages ago.

>Neither is justice, love, dignity, or meaning, but I prefer to live in a world that has those things within it, rather than one composed solely of that which can be measured by mentally maladjusted nihilists armed with scales and rulers.
Agreed. But those are studied in humanities courses, not science ones. I value the humanities, but I don't pretend to have scientific evidence for them. Creationists are literally arguing that their unfalsifiable claims should be taught as science.

I do think it would be reasonable for a science teacher to preface the whole course with a reminder that not everything taught in this course is necessarily true, because new evidence occasionally changes or topples long-held theories. It doesn't happen very often with theories with as much evidence as evolution, but every explanation in science is backed by evidence of varying strength.

God buried those bones to test our faith.

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>1 post by this id
>96 replies
Why? Just why??

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>>128041533
atheists desperately holding onto their fake science get defensive

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>>128041533
kek
/pol/ btfo including me

>>128040382
>you allow one unfalsifiable theory with no solid evidence, you have no way to reject any other crackpot theory with no evidence.
If we teach only what is falsifiable, where does that leave the truths that cannot be proven?

I'm not a "Creationist", I believe in evolution every bit as much as I believe in the other material phenomenon of the world. The Bible should not be taught in science class as an "alternative theory", doing so misses the point of a God that transcends reality and is the equivalent of reducing God to Zeus on Olympus.

We must however emphasize that to be human is to be more than just simple matter, and any "scientific" philosophy that reduces us to that is evolutionarily dysgenic. It doesn't matter if the old stories are not physically "true", they evolved along side us for a reason and should not be thrown aside on a whim.

>>128016077
Well the elephant in the room is that the minister and the atheist share the exact same reality, only the minster puts God on top, while the atheist spends vast obsessive amounts of time trying to convince everyone around him that we are all just chemicals and water.

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>>128042856
>>128016077

>>128041533
because creationist threads are entertaining

>>128016077
>>128042953
Take your pick. Atheism demands that the existence of God be proven using only 2 things: scientific measurement by authority and academic approval again, by authority. "You cannot proven what doesn't exist" - This is solipsism: Nothing exists outside your own experience even if it's describes to you. "Chemicals and water make up the city, you see" Really atheism owes a great debt to Christianity, they are, after all kissing cousins. Back in time there was a different God believing/fearing masculinity that had nothing to do with the easy city life or chemicals and water.

>>128027177
>Why people care about whether they came from monkey or "gods" shit ?

You don't care about the truth? The world must be very confusing for the willfully ignorant. Not knowing why you have an appendix or a tail bone.

>>128044177
this is one of the dumbest arguments i've ever read
thank you for embarrassing yourself for my amusement

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>>128044177
Copernicus didn't keep quite and paid for his sins and non-hipster transgressions from both the church and the pagan homosexuals. After all, if the Earth wasn't the center of the universe than, "why didn't the authorities all know?" Turns out he was right and it was true, but unless you had his personal experience it was hard to believe in the city or the church either one. Personal experiences Trump both science books and spiritual texts which is why pastors and atheists like to always coming running over immediately to protect themselves from your strange personal experience. The irony of that is that the more they either one do the more less they matter until one day they simply don't matter, they don't know as all they either one have is excuses and reasons to hide the fact that none of them know.

>>128042568
>If we teach only what is falsifiable, where does that leave the truths that cannot be proven?
In classes other than science. Science is about falsifiability. It's literally on of the core requirements to do science. You form a hypothesis and devise tests that will either support it being true, support it being false, or outright disprove it.

I agree that Genesis should not be thrown away. It should be kept and studied, but as a product of humans, as literature or religion, not science.

Science does not seek to eliminate religion, philosophy or humanities, or to replace them with itself. It only does this where those subjects have attempted to explain the physical world and we're now able to explain the same phenomenon more scientifically.

Accepting evolution doesn't reduce us to soulless biological machines. Evolution is merely the process that our bodies came to have the structure they have. It doesn't exclude any special status consciousness may have in the universe. Nor does it deny the human brain as quite possibly the most complex structure there is.

>>128016077
The religion that spawned "Christianity" is somehow pushing a narrative that directly contradicts it's teachings. Wew, lad, I think you should take smaller sips of jesus juice.

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I really like the Genesis Theory. To me it makes a lot of sense.

The Genesis Theory - (Part 1)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMA41EVDhqw

>>128047388
This theory is... THREE FUCKING HOURS LONG?!?! Ain't nobody got time fo' dat. Got a tl;dw?