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Trump pulls out of Paris Accord

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In 3 hours, Trump will officially announce that he will pull the US out of the Paris Accord.

This will release a wave of twitter rage.

Prepare your redpills and shove them down their throats.
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buddy, EVERYTHING president trump does release a wave of twitter outrage.

pres. trump mashes some shit out on a keyboard? twitter outrage and MSM coverage for days.
pres. trump smiles at someone? twitter outrage and MSM coverage for days.
pres. trump says he likes taco bowls? twitter outrage and MSM coverage for days.
pres. trump points out some statistics? twitter outrage and MSM coverage for days.
pres. trump says obama did something? twitter outrage and MSM coverage for days.
pres. trump says obama didn't do something? twitter outrage and MSM coverage for days.

the guy is a walking trigger machine.
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>>128002913
why is pulling out of the paris accord a good thing?
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>>128002913
omg if trump pulls out of the paris agreement
this is going to kill the united nations fancy dinner
party scene for the next 100 years
the audascity
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>>128003771
because is a $1T dollar a year club membership in order for the elite to have fancy parties and pat each other on the back
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>>128003992
i thought it was more about reducing carbon emissions with a global code of conduct. I love America, I don't want to see it get polluted.
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The world is fucking ending in the next 7 years so who gives a shit
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>>128004338
that's not true at all.
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>>128004434
well it may be the birth if the anti christ so maybe the next 37 years
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>>128004189
sure, but the parties to the agreement are supposed to meet annually (nice fancy gala type event with delegats and elites) in order to discuss the program, but there are no penalties for countries that miss their stated emission goals, so whats the fucking point? to just pay into the program?
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>>128004189
It is to "cut carbon emissions" by giving funds to a highly bureaucratic fund that has and will get squandered. This is really nothing more than just another big money sink that preys upon bigger nations to fund 90% of it while entities like the EU pay 10%, it is no different to how our some of our 'allies' in the EU don't foot the bill for the joint military efforts. The Paris peace accord is nothing more than another TPP scam

In reality, we could have a less bureaucratic system simply by subsidizing the shit out of green energy to make more and more people actually buy the product.
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Good explaination on why it's the right call:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/06/01/trumps-reported-decision-to-withdraw-from-paris-agreement-right-choice-for-america-and-the-world/
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>>128004799
>>128004669
I don't believe we're seeing an alternative system introduced or anything that signifies that America is going to aim to pollute less or be at the standards of the accord (if pulled out)

Party aside, it seems strange to not want to be at a first world standard with pollution control.

Not what I voted for.
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>>128003771
See>>128005057
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>>128005112
That's a propaganda site.
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>>128004189
That what it actually is. Staying in the Accords is beneficial for the average American in terms of health, development of public transportation and landscape preservation. However it is against the interests of the Saudis, whose your God emperor is bowing to and against the interests of the Jews that run their banks.
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>>128005166
Name one news site that's not propaganda.
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By the standards of global warming models that Leftists rely on (which are BS, but anyway), the Paris Accord achieves no meaningful temperature changes, but costs the US trillions in lost GDP:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/05/31/in-one-graph-why-the-parisclimate-accord-is-useless/
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>>128003771
Carbon tax. If we're out we don't pay it.
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>>128005576
what are the sources for that image?
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>>128005166
If everything contrary is wrongthink, you'll always be right.
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So what are the uncucked countries who are out of the paris accords now?

USA and?
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>>128002913
don't care
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Carbon Dioxide is literally saving Africa from Africans:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/05/30/good-news-africa-has-become-greener-in-the-last-20-years/
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>>128005864
News sources that only report on one side of a world view are for snowflakes.
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>>128005063
You didn't vote for trump though.
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>>128006212
i voted for Trump, I believe in America First - but I'm not a moron that believes pollution is good.
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>>128006419
>I believe in America First
So why are you against leaving the paris agreement?
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>>128006523
Because I don't want to see corporations polluting America
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>>128006419
>I BELIEVE IN AMERICA FIRST
>WTF WHY ARE WE BACKING OUT OF THIS AGREEMENT WHICH BENIFITS EVERYONE ELSE

our own government regulations, the basic ones which haven't been removed prevent corporations from polluting us
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>>128006419
How is CO2 pollution? Is rain pollution?
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>>128006708
Yes they have. It happened when he dismantled pollution limits put forth by the EPA.
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>>128006620
The rest of the world is just going to have to make up for america
While you profit from it

Its 100% america first to get out of the paris agreement.
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>>128003293
You're actually right. There really won't be any difference in tone from liberal blue-checkmarks whether he prays for victim's families or announces this. They're still going to swarm his fucking account with snarky and "witty" comments that'll all be listed at the top. Fucking Christ, I would just start doing whatever the fuck I wanted to if I was him.
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>>128006846
Even Krautfag gets it, why the fuck are we in this agreement if it is dictated an run by the rest of the planet and doesn't benefit us except in ways our government already benefits us?

Trump should flat out say, "I will back this agreement if their is a few changes, first of all lets call it the 'New York agreement' "
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>every faggot around you going "but wat about muh environment"

If man made climate change is real, then we industrialize ourselves into extinction and then the environment and everything is fucking fine. What are cucks not understanding about this? I swear the fuck to God, it's always about themselves with these people.
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>>128004189
In theory. In practice it is a big bloated drain on cash spent on bullshit.

This kind of thing is the opposite of what you want in order to protect environment. The best way to achieve sustainable change is to incentivize industry to produce and use cleaner tech. Paris accord won't do that.
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>>128006839
>EPA
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>>128003771
Because Cap n Trade is the ultimate wealth extraction scam. A global tax on all human activity paid to owners of carbon credits ie: fallow, non producing land. The more you look at it the more it reeks. Paris Accords are a stepping stone to this system. Obama was supposed to bring in Cap n Trade, but he blew his political capital, was lazy as fuck, and not that effective. HRC would have gotten it done. This, and SCOTUS are why, no matter if he is stark, staring mad, Trump is 100 times better than the alternative. Each and every global citizen/ human being should pray he doesn't cuck out on this one issue in particular.
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>>128007113
Honestly I just believe the future belongs to selfish people
America leaving the Paris agreement means you won't help "save the planet" but if everyone else saves the planet america will come out strongest since you guys haven't wasted time and money into it.
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>>128002913
Obama never sent it to the senate for ratification. We already are not in it. Apparently King Barry shouldn't have ruled by edicts and executive orders.
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>>128003771
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>>128006839
EPA doesn't give two shits about the environment. Only about justifying their comfy government jobs and expanding their size and power.
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>>128007555
It belonged to the selfish long before that, China got amazingly well because it only cared about itself, and screwed everyone else, India has gotten steadily better by caring about it's own development, and the middle east basically turned itself into an Oasis by forcing everyone else to pay for it's development.

unfortunately mainland Europe will never see it, as the wounds of WW2 and the cold war brainwashed you guys into thinking that blind dependence on each other will help you all
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If he and the USA does this he and it is even more retarded than I thought
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>>128007928
Yeah. Future of Europe belongs to the middle east and north africa.
Since they are smart and selfish and come here and take full advantage of stupid "selfless" europeans

We deserve to go. Just normal survival of the fittest.
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>>128008010
Sorry we're not funding your private gala's or your bureaucratic money sink, but please 'save the planet' for us goyim!
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>>128004189
Carbon Dioxide is not a pollutant for one thing. Second, unless an altenative appears through deep, transformative breakthrough(s) in physics, then every single drop of fossil fuel which can be extracted and burned, will be. It's survival and economics, no legislation can change that fact... hence taxing human activity and energy use IS A SCAM which will have no impact on Carbon in the atmosphere, but will make some (((fuckers))) very, very rich.
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>>128004338
They're coming.
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>>128008151
>'save the planet' for us goyim!
Ironic, considering it's in the interest of the jewish bankers and muslim oil overlords you're dumping the treaty. Cucked by foreign powers lmao
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>>128007638

Second time I've seen that. Need full pdf.
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Care to explain pic
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>>128005845
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1758-5899.12295/full
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>>128008258
>He 'saves the planet' and takes in refugees for free
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>>128007638
why is this bad?
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>>128005346
health, development of public transportation and landscape preservation

100% pure and unadulterated Bullshit.
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>>128005576
hmm interesting how they leave out the temp data from 1979 to 2000 which would show that the temp rise from 1979-present was leveling off not increasing.

Also interesting that they misrepresent the temp rise from 2000-present which is essentially flat based on recorded satelite data.

Almost as if they are they are manufacturing the data they want so they can push the political agenda they want.
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>>128002913
Ok so then what's the alternative plan to deal with the problem? Or are we still denying that there is a problem? Because there totally is a problem we can't rely on fossil fuel forever. Plus if we develop new tech there will be lots of new job opportunities.
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>>128002913
>MFW anthropogenic climate change is real, and I think that pulling out of the Paris Accord is good.
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>>128004189
On paper, yes. In practice there's absolutely no penalty for missing emissions goals, and no incentive for meeting them outside of the implied environmental benefit.

Basically nations are paying billions of dollars a year to send representatives to a fancy conference and say 'hey we didn't meet any of our goals, but we'll sure as heck try harder next year' and get patted on the back and eat filet mignon.


You want to dramatically reduce emissions? Take that money and spend it on new uranium fission plants in the US and Europe.
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>>128002913
prepare to be KEKED

i hope you finally disavow this KIKE after he stabs you i the back yet again

CAP THIS POST SO I CAN SAY I TOLD YOU STUPID GULLIBLE GOYIM SO
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>>128006839
>Plant food is pollution
Retard. CO2 is literally making the planet a greener place and increasing plant growth worldwide.
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>>128009130
>Ok so then what's the alternative plan to deal with the problem? Or are we still denying that there is a problem? Because there totally is a problem we can't rely on fossil fuel forever.
There is no problem. There has been no significant negative impact on the environment from Global warming, plus the rate at which warming may occur in the future is lower than what it has been. The warming pattern relative to CO2 is logarithmic not exponential. To get another degreee centigrade of warming we would have to go from 400 ppm to 800 ppm. It took us 100 years to go from essentialy 270 ppm to 400 ppm, plus as the concentration of CO2 goes up the effectiveness of Carbon sinks increases.

There is no problem.

But dramatically and artificially raising the price of energy would definitely create a terrible problem for the world.
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>>128009509
No, it's not, and that's a huge part of the problem. We've been fucking the terrestrial carbon cycle up for 10,000 years. The planet would probably be able to handle our CO2 emissions if this weren't the case, and we could sequester the carbon if would just change our agricultural practices. We're getting in the way of plants getting greener.
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>>128008258
Uhm, the Jewish Saudi Royal Family is funding climate activists, friendo. They want green energy over nuclear because green energy is shit.
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>>128009330
This. Fission plants, possibly Thorium tech, may be the only thing which gets us far enough down the road to survive. $ spent toward that now will help. Scammy, feelzy bullshit will not help, and in fact, will probably hinder what we need to do to survive as a species. BTW the planet doesn't need you to save it... humans mean NOTHING on the planetary timeline.
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>>128003293

you forgot the

>pres. trump gets for himself 2 balls of ice cream? twitter outrage and MSM coverage for days
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>>128009878
You're a full on retard
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>>128002913
Yeah who needs allies anywaylol!! XDDD
Who needs tech leadership, fuck it, give it to the chinks, let's trigger some libsXXDDD!
You dumb cunts are actually more stupid than him, which is saying something.
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>>128009899
Thorium, like fusion, is a meme until somebody actually engineers a working, industrial-scale reactor design. Uranium fission works. Not in 20 years, not in 40 years, now. You cannot base a sound energy policy on the assumption of what *might* become available in a few decades.
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>>128009984
There is a lot of OPEC money going in to fund environmental groups in the west, particuarly in Canada. There goal is to get Western and non-OPEC nations to cut their own oil and gas production out of environmental concerns so that OPEC can enjoy a larger market share.
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>>128010089
Butthurt Pajeet mad global warming scam won't distribute the world's wealth to his family of inbred poo in loos.
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>>128003293
Truly the rod that strikes in the night but doesn't kill
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>>128009668
>But dramatically and artificially raising the price of energy would definitely create a terrible problem for the world.

Exactly. Wealth extraction through global tax, and who gets the massive rake off hmmmm? Who puts the "Carbon Credits" on the market? Where do the "Carbon Credits" come from?? (((Who))) owns the market itself???
Wake TF Up.
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>>128003771
Because it doesn't achieve anything, we pay massive amounts of money to god knows who for nothing in return
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seeing all the retards in these climate threads always makes me hope global warming kills us all
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>>128010611
If the theories are correct, then we are screwed already
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>>128010135
>You cannot base a sound energy policy on the assumption of what *might* become available in a few decades
This. There is nothing wrong with research into new technologies. That is how any economy grows. But until you actually get something that works don't use it for your energy policy. This is my big problem with green energy like wind and solar. Sure I would love to be able to fuel all our energy needs with solar panels and windmills, but the tech just isn't there yet. And it isn't even just the tech for the energy production itself, (though solar panels have made good strides over the last 20 years). It also has to do with energy storage both large scale and small scale, and energy transmission. So unless you have access to tech to make batteries that are small, light but can also easily hold lots of energy without much loss, and access to cheap ambient temperature super conductors, hold off on the idea of wind and solar farms solving all our problems.
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>>128009984

People who come from made up countries shouldn't throw stones

https://www.fastcompany.com/1729156/saudi-arabia-wants-piece-100-billion-climate-fund-clean-energy-transition
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>>128010611
You'll be one disappointed retard when you finally figure out global warming is a complete scam.
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Can anyone give me a good reason why global warming is bad? Rising sea levels will kill millions of shitskins and remove jew york city. Temp will be too high to grow crops. So what, I live in the midwest and would love to grow oranges in Wisconsin.
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>>128010089
You literally have no idea what you're talking about.
>Thinks we need an 'agreement' to do what we're already doing.
>Doesn't realize its a giant fucking wealth transfer
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>>128009740
Meanwhile in reality:
>Earth getting greener due to rising carbon dioxide levels, global snapshot shows
>The area on Earth covered by plants in this time has increased by 18 million square kilometres — about 2.5 times the size of the Australian continent — largely due to the fertilising effect of carbon dioxide (CO2) (over past 30 years)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2016-04-26/global-snapshot-shows-how-humans-are-greening-the-earth/7346382
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>>128002913

It feels good that corporations and the people are going toward the Paris Agreement goal whatever Drumpf and his Drumpflet oil/coal industry shills say. Can't wait to see all the /pol/tards rush from their social media outlet of choice with screenshots to post shit threads tonight affirming this and triggering all the beta cucks that live here.
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>>128006846
America will be hurt in the long run just like everyone else.

Preventing disasters are a natural consequence of america first policy.
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>>128011109
>>128011109
global warming is fine. pollution is bad, but these two are only tangentially related. ecomentalists either don't realize this, or they deceitfully equate the two.
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>>128011109
It would be a mostly good thing if it was real, but it would mean Murica and EU forcing everyone to accept more people from Africa as ''refugees''.

If we could pump enough CO2 in the air we should be doing it, but we can't physically produce enough CO2 to make any difference whatsoever.
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>>128011396
>America will be hurt in the long run just like everyone else.
Not if we pick up for america
Which we will
Because we are cucks
Which is also why Europe is fucked.
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>>128007638
>gender equality
Oh for fuck's sake, can this meme die already?
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>>128011527
You won't be able to.
America and China is what matters when it comes to prevention CO2 emission.
They pollute a dozen times more than the rest combined.
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>>128008314
someone having jewish ancestry doesnt necessarily mean that they coincide with jewish beliefs.

that being said there is no way to tell exactly what Trumps belief system is unless we are in his head so its all speculation. My opinion would be that he doesnt adopt the jewish faith, though.
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>>128011790
Then the world is fucked

So what?
If the ship is sinking anyway I would rather sit with the Americans and enjoy it instead of desperately trying to fix an unfixable situation.
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>>128011270
THANK YOU BASED CO2 PLANTFOOD
>Greening of the Earth and its drivers
https://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/v6/n8/full/nclimate3004.html
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>>128011270
>tfw nature will develop to fully accommodate human CO2 contributions to the environment and warrant the entire debate moot in our lifetime
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>>128012109
>"MUH AMAZONE RAINFOREST IS MELTING WHAAAAAAAA"
>Amazone rainforest has grown
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>>128003771
Why give billions of dollars to the un when we could just invest it in green energy at home?

Why would an international carbon tax help the enviroment?

It won't it will just enrich multinational billionaires per usual
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>>128012074
The last shot is to make renewable energy competitive with fossil fuels.

I don't think it will work.
Most land and sea lifeforms will be destroyed. What a shitty world it will be.
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>>128011790
>>128011790
>America and China is what matters when it comes to prevention CO2 emission.
Well then you will be happy to know that over the last 10-15 years or so America has actually decreased it's carbon emission unlike Europe. Which is actually thanks to fracking because all the affordable clean natural gas we've made has allowed us to switch from coal power plants to ones fueled by natural gas.
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>>128012265
>Jesus tries to cut down the rainforest
>it fucking grows back

Can we trust the Brazilians to do anything right?
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>>128005063
>but muh global peers

I did not vote for giving billions of dollars to an unaccountable global entity
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>>128005346
>paying billions to the un somehow makes American life better

I bet you think governments and politicians are doing what's best for you
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>>128012109
>Global environmental change is rapidly altering the dynamics of terrestrial vegetation, with consequences for the functioning of the Earth system and provision of ecosystem services1,2. Yet how global vegetation is responding to the changing environment is not well established. Here we use three long-term satellite leaf area index (LAI) records and ten global ecosystem models to investigate four key drivers of LAI trends during 1982–2009. We show a persistent and widespread increase of growing season integrated LAI (greening) over 25% to 50% of the global vegetated area, whereas less than 4% of the globe shows decreasing LAI (browning). Factorial simulations with multiple global ecosystem models suggest that CO2fertilization effects explain 70% of the observed greening trend, followed by nitrogen deposition (9%), climate change (8%) and land cover change (LCC) (4%). CO2fertilization effects explain most of the greening trends in the tropics, whereas climate change resulted in greening of the high latitudes and the Tibetan Plateau. LCC contributed most to the regional greening observed in southeast China and the eastern United States. The regional effects of unexplained factors suggest that the next generation of ecosystem models will need to explore the impacts of forest demography, differences in regional management intensities for cropland and pastures, and other emerging productivity constraints such as phosphorus availability.
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>>128006419
>Paris accord
>about pollution

Pic one idiot
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>>128011093
No he won't. One thing history definitively proves is that apocalyptic cults never retract their moronic beliefs, they just double down and keep pushing the date when the world ends ever more into the future.
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The Paris Agreement is non binding and has zero legal authority to uphold members to the agreement. It's not even a treaty cuz Obama never sent to the senate for a vote so he could ratify.

It's essentially just a front to move emissions to the shitty part of the world and give them a bunch of American dollars. It's great for elites and a middle class killer.

It has absolutely nothing to do with climate change.
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>>128009740
What the fuck did China do? Jesus Christ.
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Good thorough breakdown of why the Paris Agreement is retarded as fuck.

http://thefederalist.com/2017/04/18/president-trump-run-not-walk-away-paris-climate-treaty/
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>>128003293
>Check CNN for fun yesterday
>"Why Trump's mispelling of cofve matters"
It was amazing.
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>>128002913
Who cares about redpills, I just want to see libtards cry about it.
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>>128013821
>What the fuck did China do? Jesus Christ.
Instead you should be asking "What exactly is 'soil degradation' and how is it measured?" "What are the units of measurement?" By what methodology was this measured?" "Who measured it and when?"

Or you know, you could just look at colors on a map and go OH NO!
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>>128002913
norway having an inside info about trump

ya, no
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>>128002913
Seriously WTF is Drumph doing? Developed countries NEED to be taxed more to save the world, this is FACT. All the scientists agree.
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>>128014656

Fuck off globalist, you're not welcome in these parts.
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>>128012313
You know the same people who push for a carbon tax also want a mandatory 1 child policy for the west. It's the 1% tell the rest of us to live in poverty and misery.
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>>128002913
>Prepare your redpills


Yes. You have magic information that if people knew, would turn them into right wing retards.
>delusional much
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Reminder that warmists are apocalyptic cultists and luddites, and its leaders are cackling cult leaders cashing in on the scam.
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I'll admit that a foot of water rise over the next hundred years is an issue when shitlibs recognize white genocide.
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>>128014198
soil degradation is measured by tilling
every time you till you eliminate the ability of the soil to absorb water and nutrients.
thus, you create soil runoff which is full of saline and MURDERS THE FUCK OUT OF THE GROUND

for an example, look at the Salton Sea in Southern California
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>>128002913
it was reported that ivanka is begging him to stay in
he will stay in
screencap this
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>>128015763
>every time you till you eliminate the ability of the soil to absorb water and nutrients.
False. Tilling is done because it loosens the soil thus making it easier for water and nutrients to get into the soil. Compacted soil makes it difficult for plants to grow and get water and nutrients from the soil. Why do you think it is a common practice to aerate lawns and fields of grass?

Soil runoff is created is created when there is fields or exposed earth that doesn't have any plants growth on it. So if it was common practice to leave fields fallow this could happen, however in agriculture with crop rotation if it is done, the fields will usually get a crop like soybeans that produce a nitrogen fixation bacteria to add nutrients to the soil every third or fourth year.

I don't even know where you got the idea that soil runoff is full of salt.
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>>128017516
capped
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>>128015588
Tbh maybe this will be a good thing...a legitimate chance for evolution to play out once again, and white people will of course come out on top.
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>>128002913
Good, fuck solar panels for Uganda. Keep those $ in country. The niggers will just fuck it all up anyway. 2% of the funds will make it to the 'people' of nigger africa, anyway, so fuck Paris Accord. FUck France too and the EU.
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>>128003771
It doesn't serve the interests of our corporate elite masters.
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>>128004338
exactly
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>>128002913
Fucking good. It's such a waste of money. I still hate Trump because he's a fucking kike lover.
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>>128010089
carbon taxes are wealth redistribution towards shitty industrialists.
we dont reward people who cant spew as much CO2 as possible
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>>128012152
build more dikes you dirty coastal germans
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>>128019154
We do.
All the fucking time.
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>>128003889
Trumpfags would rather do nothing and let china lead in renewable energy jobs
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>>128012313
>Why give billions of dollars to the un when we could just invest it in green energy at home?
Except none of Trump's friends doesn't want it.
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>>128008160
To add to this, during the Carboniferous period when a large amount of the hydrocarbon deposits formed we had nearly 50% more oxygen in the atmosphere from the explosion of plant life also due to the 8x more co2. This was when bugs were the size of dogs etc. Pretty sure we'll be fine no matter how much co2 is in the atmosphere.
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Even if the left is right about climate change all we have to do is make SOMA a reality.
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>>128002913
YEAH FUCK THE PLANET HAIL TRUMP
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>>128017765
oy vveyyyyyy goy
tilling destroys humus thus eliminating the ability of soil to process matter
t. organic farmer of 40 years
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do you CO2 is plant food retards not realise that you are not plants?

Also

1. More CO2 causes more drought - bad for plants
2. More CO2 causes flooding - bad for plants
3. More CO2 causes higher temperature - bad for plants
4. More CO2 causes pests to increase range (ie bark beetles) - bad for plants
5. More CO2 makes crop plants less nutritious to humans - bad for us

You people are utter, utter fools. You are claiming it is good that earth will return to a state it last had millions of years ago.

You also are not considering that solar activity has increased from millions of years ago, so less CO2 causes more warming as it has more solar heat to trap in the atmosphere.
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>>128002913
I look forward to it
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>>128021614
>tilling destroys humus thus eliminating the ability of soil to process matter
I'm not saying you can't overtill, but tilling is also needed to break up the huge clumps of clay and other minerals. Turning over the dead stalks and roots after a harvest is good practice to add more organic matter, but so is tilling that soil in the spring so it is loose enough to get water and nutrients into it's porous spaces.
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>>128022690
Can you prove humans have an effect on Climate Change? Will this actually change anything when countries like China and India are constantly polluting? Do you support getting taxed up the ads for breathing because some (((scientists))) need their funds for their (((studies)))

Fuck off faggot. If we do destroy the Earth, then who cares. Most humans deserve genocide anyways
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>>128022690
>1. More CO2 causes more drought - bad for plants
Nah

>2. More CO2 causes flooding - bad for plants
Nah

>3. More CO2 causes higher temperature - bad for plants
Depends where you are, overall it will mean a longer growing season for most agricultural areas, but either way the difference is minimal because we are talking about a .8 Degree centigrade difference.

>4. More CO2 causes pests to increase range (ie bark beetles) - bad for plants
Humans have been dealing with pests for literally thousands of years, pretty sure we can handle a few bugs in a few new areas.

>5. More CO2 makes crop plants less nutritious to humans - bad for us
Nah.
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>>128002913
https://www.infowars.com/exclusive-trump-will-pull-out-of-the-paris-climate-deal/
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>>128023243
>Can you prove humans have an effect on Climate Change?

Yes. Read some Scientific literature.

CO2 is a greenhouse gas, it traps solar radiation heat in the atmosphere
CO2 is now the highest it has been in millions of years
CO2 levels has risen pretty much exponentially since the start of the industrial revolution from 280 parts per million to around 410 today
Fossil fuels contain CO2
Humans started burning fossil fuels en masse during the industrial revolution
In the last few decades solar activity has reduced, whilst global temperature has risen in line with atmospheric CO2.

This is very basic.
China and India are doing more than anyone else for renewable energy right now.
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good, global warming is a man-made religion designed to control atheists with fear of the apocalypse
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>>128023810
>read some scientific literature
>doesn't offer any books
>what is cognitive bias
Fun fact. 97% of (((scientists))) think that man made climate change is real and 97% also support a carbon tax. If I offered you one million pounds to conduct a study with results that only fit my agenda and to completely ignore any other facts or possibilities, would you do it?

Man made Climate Change is a bigger hoax then the Holocaust
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>>128005346
>propaganda in its most concentrated form
France was completely cucked over a century ago, and not much has changed since then.
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>>128023370
So drought, flooding and pests are good for plants?
Please do provide sources. Unless you are somehow disputing that climate change will cause these events to occur.

https://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v510/n7503/full/nature13179.html
Here is an article from the journal nature, advising of plants becoming less nutritious

If we can handle pests why are bark beetles still devastating forests?

Why has the Armyworm devastated african crops this year?

https://www.ft.com/content/93222f52-2b46-11e7-9ec8-168383da43b7

Climate change will devastate worldwide crop yields despite CO2 rises. Pic related.

http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/9/3/034011;jsessionid=0D0DDBA7BC74AC1ACB3FCDA474D7B394.c4.iopscience.cld.iop.org

Article from another academic journal.
>We find extreme heat stress at anthesis (HSA) by the 2080s (relative to the 1980s) under RCP 8.5, taking into account CO2 fertilization effects, could double global losses of maize yield (ΔY = −12.8 ± 6.7% versus − 7.0 ± 5.3% without HSA), reduce projected gains in spring wheat yield by half (ΔY = 34.3 ± 13.5% versus 72.0 ± 10.9% without HSA) and in soybean yield by a quarter
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>>128023810
>CO2 levels has risen pretty much exponentially since the start of the industrial revolution from 280 parts per million to around 410 today
You don't understand the word exponentially. You also don't seem to grasp that the warming pattern of CO2 is logarithmic. Meaning to get an additional degree of warming we would need to go from 400 ppm to 800 ppm. You also don't seem to grasp that as CO2 concentrations rise the effectiveness of Carbon sinks rise. You also don't seem to grasp that the .8 degree increase has had no significant negative impacts on society or the environment. You also don't seem to realize that if the world gets another degree warmer over next 200 years it also won't really matter. There have been no significant positive feedbacks from the warming we have seen. The idea of Catastrophic Global warming is a myth. The steps we take to address this non-issue serve only to benefit special interests, politicians, and those seeking moral indulgences to feel good about themselves. The negative effects of addressing the non-issue of catastrophic global warming, will affect nearly everyone involved in the global economy as energy prices skyrocket, but particularly the very poor in the world.
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>>128025495
Do you not understand positive feedbacks?

Positive feedbacks will cause warming that WILL INCREASE EXPONENTIALLY.

Methane released from arctic permafrost
Lost of albedo in the Arctic due to sea ice coverage decreasing
Loss of CO2 capture from rainforests
The Oceans holding less CO2

>get an additional degree of warming we would need to go from 400 ppm to 800 ppm

How can you be this fucking stupid?
We have warmed almost 1 degree since 1880 with far less than 400 ppm increase
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>>128023370
Give bloody counter-arguments instead of "nah" before posting burger
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>>128011771

Climate change is homophobic.
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>>128024776
>So drought, flooding and pests are good for plants?
There is no drought that can be fairly attributed to the .8 Degree rise in global average temperature.

There is no flood that can be fairly attributed to the .8 degree rise global average temperature.

It is possible that some pests have migrated into new areas because of the slight increase in temperature, but the new area would be very small comparitively.

The idea that all pestilience observed can be attributed to the .8 degree change average global temperature can not be fairly attributed. It is much more likely linked to the own innate migratory patterns of the pests themselves separate and apart from the .8 degree rise in global average surface temperature simply because of the innate variability of the year to year temperature range. If there was a flat steady increase year in and year out then maybe you would have a point but the variability is quite high. (see this post pic to see yearly data >>128009050 ) The real cause of pest migration again is much more likely linked to natural migration of the pest itself along with the movement of goods and people carrying the pest to a new area.

Crop yields have also been steadily increasing for the last several centuries with new technologies and importantly access to lots of cheap and available energy. Haber process of making N2 into NO3 is energy expensive yo)
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>>128026506
Alright, so now you have to prove that what ever hair brained scheme you propose to combat climate change isn't itself as devastating to the global economy as the climate change itself is.
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>>128003771
Because First World economies are basically cucks to lessor economies. Big business sponge off/exploit these economies while punishing job growth in first world economies where labor demands to be paid more.
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Please post liberal salt.
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>>128026506
>Do you not understand positive feedbacks?
>Positive feedbacks will cause warming that WILL INCREASE EXPONENTIALLY.

Except none of that has happened. There have been no positive feedbacks. Look at the satelite temperature data in this post >>128009050

Now in your head try to guesstimate what the linear regression for 5 year chunks would look like on that data set. What you would notice is that basically from 2000 onwards the slope of the warming is DECREASING not increasing. This is not exponential warming in fact it is logarithmic warming. This is exactly what is expected from warming purely associasted with increases in the CO2 concentration. Which approximately a 1 degree increase for each doubling of CO2 concentration. That is from 200 ppm to 400 ppm should give about a 1 degree increase, and then to get an additional degree we would have to go from 400 ppm to 800 ppm.

I don't care about projections and theory that don't match up with the actual observed data. I'm sorry but facts trump hypotheses every time.
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>>128006419
What part of what President Trump has done makes you believe that all of a sudden we're going to ramp up pollution and further ruin a country that is on the cusp of being made great again?
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We
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EU BTFO
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WuuuZ
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>>128009309
I feel the same way; $100B annually is a big price to pay for nothing to get done

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>>128005576
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Done
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>>128002913
The rest of the world can get fucked.
We can all live on a planet where America is dominant or we can just not live. Those were always your only options. We will not be coerced.
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>>128005057
Thanks, very very informative.
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>>128033297
I hope for his sake no one figures out he actually has financial ties to a company that produces cars driven by an electric motor, and that company stands to gain if there is a huge carbon tax, direct tax on combustion engines, or subsidy for electric cars. People might not take him as seriously.
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>>128027326
Economy is more important that ecology?
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>>128037820
>Economy is more important that ecology?
First you have to demonstrate a significant risk to the environment. To date none has been shown.
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Fuck the Globalist Ponzi Scheming Carbon Tax Agenda 21 Wealth Redistribution Scam Known as the Paris Accords.

The NWO is getting its Shit Pushed in

BTFO any of you psuedo-science shills; Have some PROOF:

http://riggedit.com/2017/05/01/global-warming-or-global-governance-full-length/ !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>128003293
>covfefe
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>>128002913
Why do people care so much about this climate deal? It sounds like a worthless piece of garbage.
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>>128038308
I'm confident in the ability to shift the goalposts back enough to by the time there is "proof" it'll be too late.
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Now
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FUCK CLIMATE DOWN WITH THE PEDO RINGS
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>>128038461
it's so beautiful

fuck the shills, this is yet more proof that he is 100% our guy

bless this president
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>>128015763
That's not how erosion works. A lot of erosion is due to the velocity of water moving across the surface of the soil instead of it being absorbed into the ground
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>>128003293
taco bowls are fucking disgusting, tho
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>>128004189

If its about carbon emissions then why arent India and China the primary victims?

Oh wait. They are too profitable and nationalist for it to work.

Meanwhile Obama was the one who signed the Paris accord. The same Obama who put his personal hatred of the UK into his politics.
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>>128002913
There should be a deal specially made for Paris where they pollute it to the max so all the niggers there die.
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