Why you SLAVES don't make USURY illegal?

>>127986557
don't you have some refugee feet to kiss ?

>>127986557
truth

>>127986557
Interest rates are low and we'll regulated. The problem is house price speculation. That's what should be made illegal.

Homes need to be homes, not investments.

>>127986755
Same goes for education in the US while I'm at it.

>>127986755
That thinking (low rate) IS PURE POISON.
Even low rates rise to astronomical figues that none of your descendants can ever reimburse (forever endebted and enslaved)

1 for 1 is mathematical peace

>>127986971

So... what incentive will anyone have to loan money then?

>>127986557
I like that image
It seems Jesus is wipping Mike Pence

>>127987062
Yes that's a deep question and the other one is Should you give your country to the most vile of all enemies and give them your childrens as slaves. Very difficult choice indeed.

Don't play with things you do not own, you get owned in the end.

the answer is 0% rate (brotherhood tier) + Charity

>>127986557
truth as been said and ignored, (its all good and normal), back to shitposting

>>127986971
You could always go to the middle east where you would be more comfortable.

>>127988311
sup ginger jew, you got your most vile activity under crosshair? truth and light is always fearsome for you I know because of your kike background & shadow mechanics. but tell me in all honesty what mystery is it that you can breath & survive in front of whites & attack them at the same time? knowing how superior they are? Is it some shlomo sorcery, negromancy + kabbala mix ? very curious about that

anyway,
whites and the entire world should know emancipation from kikery and usury, its just a matter of opinion shift, its like, my friend, as immediate as a flick of a switch

>>127986557
The thing about gold as money is that it requires a lot of people to be servants to back up the value of the gold, and in this day and age, people would rather be adulterated than be servants, so it isn't very popular.

>>127986645
it is, thanks

How many ursury points do you goys have? I just hit 700 feels pretty good

>>127989362
each region could print time limited and region limited notes editions, for pure convenience and keeping in citizen mind that its just temporary paper, but this by this permission that the evil will return and expand back to its original global usury

>>127989162
I wasn't rude to you. I suggested a place where you can live the life you want. Is saying you could go to the middle east such an insult? Lol.

>>127986557
u are economically illiterate. ''usury'' is what incentivises people to loan and invest. w/o it u have no capitalist economy worth a damn, no financial system equals no credit pool for new and existing businesses to draw on, and no credit pool means no business growth. banking is dominated by private interest groups, and must be brought under state control. if u couldn't profit from loaning money no-one would do it, and without it no new businesses would exist

>>127986557

In the US, this is tied in with Protestant cuckery. They get up in arms about muh Muslims, without even realizing that the average Muslim in a dirt poor Paki village is closer to the New Testament ideal than the average Protestant American. The Anglo Protestant is the ultimate cuck for the Jew.

>>127989803
Yea then how did business exist before banks? Loans are just like insurance, an economic luxury, not a necessity

>>127989803
He is a mussie enlightening us. He isn't a real person.

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Are you CRAZY, man?!
Do you want our countries to be invaded by the Jewnited States of America?

>>127989803

This is a debate about worldviews more than anything. The usury issue is just a corollary of this larger debate about rule by money or a return to more organic systems of social organization, which certainly functioned very well in civilizations which had outlawed usury. In fact, the debate will probably be much more pressing after the collapse of the unsustainable western systems we now enjoy. Under the current western system, yes, usury is absolutely necessary. Without it the entire edifice of banking and western money would collapse and send our countries into chaos. But if we're headed for a Cataclysm collapse anyway, the debate can be reframed in terms of which system will replace the present one

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>>127989803
Without usury there is work and the heritage of workers, workers who are never striked every year by insane amount of taxes claimed by public/national debt. No usury = purest mathematical peace.

Pay this if you ever can, you and tell me the numbers of generation who will never achieve it

>>127989803
if, instead of usury, we associate loans strictly with fractional ownership of the investment (shares of a business), then incentive can still exist.

more venture capitalists, fewer usury agents.

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>>127990726

Each newborn Burger owes $60K, abundance is illegal for goys.

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/22/bitcoin-now-tax-free-in-europe-after-court-ruling.html

Daily reminder, that Bitcoin is debt-free, taxes-free, and as good as gold.

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>http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000422340

Yep, Bitcoin is legal in the USA.

>>127992045

Will bitcoin survive the day of War? which country will give you food vs bitshekels?

Gold/Silver is the only way in my mind

>>127989803
what is venture capital

>>127986557
>no-interest loans
Hi OP can you lend me all your moolah ill repay you in 200yrs

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>Have a business idea / invention for making 10$ a month
>Borrow 100$ from a bank under 5% yearly interest rate and use it to implement the idea
>Make 120$ in the first year, give back 105$ to the bank. My profit is 15$.
>Make 100$ each year without owning anything for all the followin years
>profit
Why are white trash so bad at economics and resent anything that gives you a chance to make it if your smart?

>>127986557

http://www.culturewars.com/2014/Sin.htm

>>127990091
There were banks in the Roman Empire, the argentarium. Usury was fine everywhere for almost all cultures except sandnigger religions

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>>127986557

Ursury only works as a concept if new wealth is continually made.

This is the basis of capitalism: infinite growth. Such growth is unstable and impossible in nature.

We need to look as sustainable wealth until we can start mining space asteroids for precious metals.

>>127993468
You're lowering the problem to your schlomo-to-schlomo scenarios (wich is still an injustice), simple people still suffer from public debt (and other nation-contracted debts)

>>127994016
Again, usury has a much longer history than Christianity, and is necessary for businesses to function.

why pay debts when they can just print money?

It is all illusionary.

>>127992549
Gold and Silver are good enough.
But yes, Bitcoin would survive any cataclysm. It's just a distributed database.

>>127994641

they're fabricated, unreal, and can be made void;

"
On 2 October 2006, during a press conference in Oslo, the Norwegian minister for international development, Erik Solheim, announced the unilateral and unconditional cancellation of debts owed by the five following countries: Ecuador, Egypt, Jamaica, Peru, and Sierra Leone, thus ackowledging Norway’s responsibility in their illegitimate debt. These cancellations amounted to about USD 80 million |10|. The decision was motivated by the fact that ‘the claims derived from a failed development project – the Ship Export Campaign of the late 70’s’: This campaign represented a development policy failure. As a creditor country Norway has a shared responsibility for the debts that followed. In cancelling these claims Norway takes the responsibility for allowing these five countries to terminate their remaining repayments on these debts |11|. For the first time in history, a country of the North admitted to being responsible for inadequate loan policy and took measures to remedy what had occurred. The decision represented a break with today’s tacit consensus within the Paris Club. Norway’s move is a significant step towards the recognition of creditors’ responsibility in the process of illegitimate debts."

>>127986557

What are you talking about, we're constantly railing against (((central banking))) and monopoly money with politicians stealing from the people.

https://freedom-school.com/money/how-an-economy-grows.pdf

>>127986627
sad that the pope who remember jesus everyday but prefers merkel's law above his god's law, and never talks about the temple's merchant, as if it was not that important to remember, has if it had no reasoning behind, all of his life and wisdom, this is a very strange world

>>127987062

There's two types of loans
>CONSUMER LOANS
Where a consumer borrows money to consume, which has no benefit for society

>PRODUCTIVE LOANS
Productive people with good business plans borrow money in order to create MORE value creation, which increases the value of money.

What the socialists do is take money from the productive to give to people who don't produce value but consume. Money is a claim on value, so by giving people who produce no value money for not being valuable, they reduce the amount of value every unit of currency represents. This is what inflation is in effect.

Marxist socialism cannot work because it's based on the false premise that money equals value. It's like giving everyone access to health insurance and saying now every has access to healthcare. No they don't, they're just insured now for care they have no access to.

>>127993468

That's a productive loan, which isn't inherently bad. The problem is consumer loans which don't increase the value produces by society, but it reduces the amount of capital available for businesses to get started.

>>127996571
You have accepted usury. Anything outside of 1:1 is an injustice.

>>127996370
ill take that one back.

>>127996821

Interest in itself isn't bad, but these people are both the ones who loan the money AND receive the interest. Because they can somehow, through government violence, engage in loans on other people's behalf. They loan themselves the money, but tax the people the interest. That's what's evil.

There's nothing inherently wrong with giving an incentive to someone to take a risk they wouldn't otherwise take. What's wrong is that these banks make stupid decisions, but since they run the government, the tax payers have to cover the risks. That's criminal. Taxation needs to end.

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fuck ya finally a good threat on pol

OP is weird but is right on about usury, that's basically the root of how (((they))) get you

>>127986557
I agree with Jesus on this usury issue...

Not with turning other cheek or loving your enemy, those are so faggoty dogmas

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>>127999717
It really gets right to the point doesn't it?