Western Art Thread

Thank you NZ anon btw

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Architecture also

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>>127953896
OP said nothing degenerate, akmed.

>>127952539
I've always love how /pol/ shows more art than fuckin /ic/

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are clothes art?

>>127955652
>woman is not even European

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>>127955702
not the skirt's fault

>>127953427
Wow your art is amazing thank you.

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>>127952539
Letting in cultures that don't have a high value for national parks could put the best thing about America at risk.

>>127956574

he did this at only 24 and here we are posting on 4chan

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>>127956493
I agree brother

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>>127953896
Not Western and extremely degenerate. Fuck off.

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>>127952539
Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

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>>127953645
This is actually quite hilarious.

I like this thread; thank you.

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>>127959491
No problem. Remember what we have achieved

>>127952539
>why we must preserve the West
I just want it to end. Let's go back to Barbarism.

>>127960361
>t. Paki Invader

>>127960505
>Paki Invader
I tell you what, when you're living in Multiculturalism 24/7, can't leave your house past 8pm out of fear of being robbed or attacked, watch a time lapse of the community you were born and raised in slowly decay away and watch as your Kinsmen flee to other places, watch your sister come home in tears and find out she has been groped by an immigrant only then to find out the Police can't do anything because of "racism" or whatever excuse they pull out next, then get back to me.

Because that's what it's like today.

>>127952539
Still not dying for Israel/ungrateful roasties

>>127952539

>not posting best Veronese

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>>127961067

Oh fuck me that resolution is a joke

>>127960957
Fuck man

>>127960957
Now what would be any person's response with any reasoning faculty at all be to that situation? You have to be trying to incriminate yourselves.

>>127960957
America is nowhere that cucked yet. However, I have truly become a minority in my own hometown over my lifetime. You underestimate how fucking bad we are getting (((browned)))

>>127961238
That's modern Britain today, except some girls aren't so lucky. Some end up in Kebab mincers as was the case of that poor girl some years back. Some end up as Muslim rape slaves, passed around like property. And what do we do?

Absolutely nothing. We allow it to happen because we are too "civilized". We have grown weak and pathetic.
>>127961242
Can't fight back, they fight in gangs. Can't call the Police, their hands are tied due to racism and what not. Can't do anything other than move out of the area and hope the Muslims don't follow you to whatever "safe haven" you run away to next.

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>>127961694
Nowhere is safe anymore, we're being outbred by foreign invaders, whether you be in the US or Britain or Germany etc. When the native Europeans go, the West goes. Get a good look at pic related. You wanted art? That art is what awaits us: desolation. Nothing but monuments will remain, same happened with Rome.

>>127961800
Let it burn

>>127962137
I want it to burn. The invaders won't be able to survive then. The benefit payments kindly provided by those civilized European people will stop coming in, and we will return to Barbarism. They'll get a taste of who our ancestors were once that happens, because I think they've forgot.

i love our art :')

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>>127962068
You think the invaders are going to allow these haram paintings to still be around once they reach ~40% population?

>posts Greek/Roman art with homosex

>>127962389
No, you're probably right. They'll destroy everything. Nothing will remain.

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>>127962068
poems are art too

>>127961800
>>127962332
What if you worked together with other people that wanted to defend themselves from the unfortunate peoples? What's the need to revert to barbarism?

>>127962499
That is what disgusts me the most

>>127962653
Like how isis has destroyed Ur, the oldest know city in the world.

I would just like to put it out there tooall the Americans posting in here.. remember these great achievements of your European ancestors for when their Islamic enemies finally achieve there 1400 year old mission of taking over. Remember this and have mercy for them. Liberate them from their foolishness one more time.

>>127962598
Look mate, people aren't fighting anymore, they're fleeing. London has seen White flight, Birmingham has seen White flight, Manchester, Leicester, Bradford, Blackpool, Rotherham, all have seen and are continuing to see White flight. They run away rather than pick up arms to defend themselves. In fact, you can't defend yourself at all anymore. It's illegal to carry a weapon outside. Police would arrest you rather than the immigrant. Civilization did that. It made us weak, soft, decadent, degenerate pathetic individuals. Barbarism promoted simple living, small scale communities, tribal unity etc. In some tribes, you had to learn to throw slings at targets. Didn't hit the target? You didn't eat that day as a punishment. It promoted strength, honour, loyalty, warrior spirit. The third world savages wouldn't have stepped foot in Europe if we were still Barbarians.

>>127959341
Hur dur Italians are not white>>127959341

>>127963029
We do not need to go back to barbarism though. We conquered and colonized entire continents. You Brits controlled a worldwide empire last century. People just need to wake up. I am afraid they never will though.

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>>127953693
REEEE FUCK OFF WITH THIS MODERNIST KIKE TRASH!

>>127963584
>I am afraid they never will though
Exactly, they never will. Because they are living a comfortable life, with food a stones throw away in a fully stocked fridge, reality TV with the same worn out degenerate celebrities appearing every week talking about their oh so great lives, pornographic content at their fingertips, tinder meetups on the weekend, university to attend, work to slave away at 9-5.

Such is life in the "civilized" West.

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>>127963584
Or maybe people are smart enough to use the internet and share ideas and also make bombs and subvert people's ideas for less retarded ideas that both helps continue a person's development as well as others?

>>127963949
I know. I just have hope that this board can break the (((controls))) here and start pushing a nationalist message to the masses. I realize that this is a pipe dream though,

>>127953693
Fuck off Jew. You mother fuckers need jesus.

>>127964436
Was it incompetency? I just can't fathom this post.

>>127953909
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P8-mas3_kA

>>127964981
Shut the fuck up invader.

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We owe modern civilisation to the west

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>>127966450
Do you not understand what op wants? This is not beautiful in any way. This it's post modern shit. It does not have roots in western culture.

>>127966742

You clearly havent experience beautiful architecture before. Educate yourself.

Architecture is a symphony of humanity

>>127953693
fuck off

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The Death of Sardanapalus
Delacroix, 1827

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We had stayed up all night, my friends and I, under hanging mosque lamps with domes of filigreed brass, domes starred like our spirits, shining like them with the prisoned radiance of electric hearts. For hours we had trampled our atavistic ennui into rich oriental rugs, arguing up to the last confines of logic and blackening many reams of paper with our frenzied scribbling.

An immense pride was buoying us up, because we felt ourselves alone at that hour, alone, awake, and on our feet, like proud beacons or forward sentries against an army of hostile stars glaring down at us from their celestial encampments. Alone with stokers feeding the hellish fires of great ships, alone with the black spectres who grope in the red-hot bellies of locomotives launched on their crazy courses, alone with drunkards reeling like wounded birds along the city walls.

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Suddenly we jumped, hearing the mighty noise of the huge double-decker trams that rumbled by outside, ablaze with colored lights, like villages on holiday suddenly struck and uprooted by the flooding Po and dragged over falls and through gourges to the sea.

Then the silence deepened. But, as we listened to the old canal muttering its feeble prayers and the creaking bones of sickly palaces above their damp green beards, under the windows we suddenly heard the famished roar of automobiles.

“Let’s go!” I said. “Friends, away! Let’s go! Mythology and the Mystic Ideal are defeated at last. We’re about to see the Centaur’s birth and, soon after, the first flight of Angels!... We must shake at the gates of life, test the bolts and hinges. Let’s go! Look there, on the earth, the very first dawn! There’s nothing to match the splendor of the sun’s red sword, slashing for the first time through our millennial gloom!”

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We went up to the three snorting beasts, to lay amorous hands on their torrid breasts. I stretched out on my car like a corpse on its bier, but revived at once under the steering wheel, a guillotine blade that threatened my stomach.

The raging broom of madness swept us out of ourselves and drove us through streets as rough and deep as the beds of torrents. Here and there, sick lamplight through window glass taught us to distrust the deceitful mathematics of our perishing eyes.

I cried, “The scent, the scent alone is enough for our beasts.”

And like young lions we ran after Death, its dark pelt blotched with pale crosses as it escaped down the vast violet living and throbbing sky.

But we had no ideal Mistress raising her divine form to the clouds, nor any cruel Queen to whom to offer our bodies, twisted like Byzantine rings! There was nothing to make us wish for death, unless the wish to be free at last from the weight of our courage!

And on we raced, hurling watchdogs against doorsteps, curling them under our burning tires like collars under a flatiron. Death, domesticated, met me at every turn, gracefully holding out a paw, or once in a while hunkering down, making velvety caressing eyes at me from every puddle.

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>>127967279
Boccioni unf unf

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“Let’s break out of the horrible shell of wisdom and throw ourselves like pride-ripened fruit into the wide, contorted mouth of the wind! Let’s give ourselves utterly to the Unknown, not in desperation but only to replenish the deep wells of the Absurd!”

The words were scarcely out of my mouth when I spun my car around with the frenzy of a dog trying to bite its tail, and there, suddenly, were two cyclists coming towards me, shaking their fists, wobbling like two equally convincing but nevertheless contradictory arguments. Their stupid dilemma was blocking my way—Damn! Ouch!... I stopped short and to my disgust rolled over into a ditch with my wheels in the air...

O maternal ditch, almost full of muddy water! Fair factory drain! I gulped down your nourishing sludge; and I remembered the blessed black beast of my Sudanese nurse... When I came up—torn, filthy, and stinking—from under the capsized car, I felt the white-hot iron of joy deliciously pass through my heart!

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>>127967600
fuck off with that shit

>>127967540
Into the chamber niggers
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>127967279
>>127967228

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A crowd of fishermen with handlines and gouty naturalists were already swarming around the prodigy. With patient, loving care those people rigged a tall derrick and iron grapnels to fish out my car, like a big beached shark. Up it came from the ditch, slowly, leaving in the bottom, like scales, its heavy framework of good sense and its soft upholstery of comfort.

They thought it was dead, my beautiful shark, but a caress from me was enough to revive it; and there it was, alive again, running on its powerful fins!

And so, faces smeared with good factory muck—plastered with metallic waste, with senseless sweat, with celestial soot—we, bruised, our arms in slings, but unafraid, declared our high intentions to all the living of the earth:

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MANIFESTO OF FUTURISM

1. We intend to sing the love of danger, the habit of energy and fearlessness.

2. Courage, audacity, and revolt will be essential elements of our poetry.

3. Up to now literature has exalted a pensive immobility, ecstasy, and sleep. We intend to exalt aggresive action, a feverish insomnia, the racer’s stride, the mortal leap, the punch and the slap.

4. We affirm that the world’s magnificence has been enriched by a new beauty: the beauty of speed. A racing car whose hood is adorned with great pipes, like serpents of explosive breath—a roaring car that seems to ride on grapeshot is more beautiful than the Victory of Samothrace.

5. We want to hymn the man at the wheel, who hurls the lance of his spirit across the Earth, along the circle of its orbit.

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6. The poet must spend himself with ardor, splendor, and generosity, to swell the enthusiastic fervor of the primordial elements.

7. Except in struggle, there is no more beauty. No work without an aggressive character can be a masterpiece. Poetry must be conceived as a violent attack on unknown forces, to reduce and prostrate them before man.

8. We stand on the last promontory of the centuries!... Why should we look back, when what we want is to break down the mysterious doors of the Impossible? Time and Space died yesterday. We already live in the absolute, because we have created eternal, omnipresent speed.

9. We will glorify war—the world’s only hygiene—militarism, patriotism, the destructive gesture of freedom-bringers, beautiful ideas worth dying for, and scorn for woman.

10. We will destroy the museums, libraries, academies of every kind, will fight moralism, feminism, every opportunistic or utilitarian cowardice.

11. We will sing of great crowds excited by work, by pleasure, and by riot; we will sing of the multicolored, polyphonic tides of revolution in the modern capitals; we will sing of the vibrant nightly fervor of arsenals and shipyards blazing with violent electric moons; greedy railway stations that devour smoke-plumed serpents; factories hung on clouds by the crooked lines of their smoke; bridges that stride the rivers like giant gymnasts, flashing in the sun with a glitter of knives; adventurous steamers that sniff the horizon; deep-chested locomotives whose wheels paw the tracks like the hooves of enormous steel horses bridled by tubing; and the sleek flight of planes whose propellers chatter in the wind like banners and seem to cheer like an enthusiastic crowd.

>>127963833
This

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It is from Italy that we launch through the world this violently upsetting incendiary manifesto of ours. With it, today, we establish Futurism, because we want to free this land from its smelly gangrene of professors, archaeologists, ciceroni and antiquarians. For too long has Italy been a dealer in second-hand clothes. We mean to free her from the numberless museums that cover her like so many graveyards.

Museums: cemeteries!... Identical, surely, in the sinister promiscuity of so many bodies unknown to one another. Museums: public dormitories where one lies forever beside hated or unknown beings. Museums: absurd abattoirs of painters and sculptors ferociously slaughtering each other with color-blows and line-blows, the length of the fought-over walls!

That one should make an annual pilgrimage, just as one goes to the graveyard on All Souls’ Day—that I grant. That once a year one should leave a floral tribute beneath the Gioconda, I grant you that... But I don’t admit that our sorrows, our fragile courage, our morbid restlessness should be given a daily conducted tour through the museums. Why poison ourselves? Why rot?

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And what is there to see in an old picture except the laborious contortions of an artist throwing himself against the barriers that thwart his desire to express his dream completely?... Admiring an old picture is the same as pouring our sensibility into a funerary urn instead of hurtling it far off, in violent spasms of action and creation.

Do you, then, wish to waste all your best powers in this eternal and futile worship of the past, from which you emerge fatally exhausted, shrunken, beaten down?

In truth I tell you that daily visits to museums, libraries, and academies (cemeteries of empty exertion, Calvaries of crucified dreams, registries of aborted beginnings!) are, for artists, as damaging as the prolonged supervision by parents of certain young people drunk with their talent and their ambitious wills. When the future is barred to them, the admirable past may be a solace for the ills of the moribund, the sickly, the prisoner... But we want no part of it, the past, we the young and strong Futurists!

So let them come, the gay incendiaries with charred fingers! Here they are! Here they are!... Come on! set fire to the library shelves! Turn aside the canals to flood the museums!... Oh, the joy of seeing the glorious old canvases bobbing adrift on those waters, discolored and shredded!... Take up your pickaxes, your axes and hammers and wreck, wreck the venerable cities, pitilessly!

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>>127967057
Off that high horse there, you condoscending twat. You really think those shitty buildings take any talent or fundimantal understanding of the symphony of our culture and heritage? When put next to pic related it pales in comparison. As a civil engineer I think I have a fair bit of knowledge in this field. I have to design these fucking boondoggles you glorify all day, and believe me m8, people travel from all over the world to see buildings like pic related. Only a hand few of these post modern pieces of shit will stand the test of time.

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The oldest of us is thirty: so we have at least a decade for finishing our work. When we are forty, other younger and stronger men will probably throw us in the wastebasket like useless manuscripts—we want it to happen!

They will come against us, our successors, will come from far away, from every quarter, dancing to the winged cadence of their first songs, flexing the hooked claws of predators, sniffing doglike at the academy doors the strong odor of our decaying minds, which will have already been promised to the literary catacombs.

But we won’t be there... At last they’ll find us—one winter’s night—in open country, beneath a sad roof drummed by a monotonous rain. They’ll see us crouched beside our trembling aeroplanes in the act of warming our hands at the poor little blaze that our books of today will give out when they take fire from the flight of our images.

They’ll storm around us, panting with scorn and anguish, and all of them, exasperated by our proud daring, will hurtle to kill us, driven by a hatred the more implacable the more their hearts will be drunk with love and admiration for us.

Injustice, strong and sane, will break out radiantly in their eyes.

Art, in fact, can be nothing but violence, cruelty, and injustice.

>>127961416
You realize the French revolutionaries were deliberately knocking off Renaissance art, right?

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The oldest of us is thirty: even so we have already scattered treasures, a thousand treasures of force, love, courage, astuteness, and raw will-power; have thrown them impatiently away, with fury, carelessly, unhesitatingly, breathless, and unresting... Look at us! We are still untired! Our hearts know no weariness because they are fed with fire, hatred, and speed!... Does that amaze you? It should, because you can never remember having lived! Erect on the summit of the world, once again we hurl our defiance at the stars!

You have objections?—Enough! Enough! We know them... We’ve understood!... Our fine deceitful intelligence tells us that we are the revival and extension of our ancestors—Perhaps!... If only it were so!—But who cares? We don’t want to understand!... Woe to anyone who says those infamous words to us again!

Lift up your heads!

Erect on the summit of the world, once again we hurl defiance to the stars!

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in short

>>127953784
Hit me hard i don't know why
Incredibly comfy.

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>>127967913
Gas yourself kike. Literally kill yourself, you fucking filthy disgusting sub-human animal.

>>127961043

>school book

Those Indians are right to run!

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remove kebab

>>127967057
Ans by humanity you can also fuck off. We're talking specifically about western art and architecture. Half of those pieces of shit are not even in the West. For fuck sakes one looks like a bunch of containers stacked upon another by a hopped up liberal. Literally trailer trash.

>>127968140
>WE WUZ BYZANTINES AND SHIEET.

>>127968072
holy fuck! when was this made???

>>127967741
Standing atop the world's summit, we hurl our insolent challenge to the stars once more!

>>127968072
You reactionary simpleton

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>>127967903

You mean people wont feel in awe of wacky glass & steel squiggle #59326 or glass and steel block arrangement # 94673?

>>127968388
Fuck that is ugly.

>>127968370
>You reactionary simpleton
Your sister loves my reactions and she is very much a simpleton.

>>127968570
You're free to live in your morose kitsch, enshrined in the trappings of the old world like a decreipt old woman. We intend to exalt aggresive action, a feverish insomnia, the racer’s stride, the mortal leap, the punch and the slap.

>>127961416
The beginning of the end

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>tfw beauty scandalizes kikes

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>>127968706
>We

>>127968706
You finished Shlomo? Don't you have an appointment to suck your rabbi's cock?

>>127968806
>spot the nigger that dropped out of high school

>>127968706
>implying Croatian art isn't amazing.

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>>127968388
Pretty much. Do you think that skyline can compete with the grandiose architecture of our past.

Pic related. The shard looks like it's out of place. And the gherkin building is no where near as complex a building as for e.g. the neo gothic votive church in Vienna. They look out of place are IMO are not a reflection of our culture or civilization. Hmmmm maybe it is because were invitin in shitskins by the million. There's your metaphor.

>>127969004
There is no longer any beauty except the struggle. Any work of art that lacks a sense of aggression can never be a masterpiece.

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>>127968984
Detected.

>>127968753
Could you keep me scandalized a bit longer?

>>127968753
The past is necessarily inferior to the future. That is how we wish it to be. How could we acknowledge any merit in our most dangerous enemy: the past, gloomy prevaricator, execrable tutor?

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>>127969081
architecture has to be what it is in the moment of history in which i it is created, not effete shit like decorating with flying butresses when they're no longer needed

>>127953784
>painting
>looks suspiciously like the oil paint filter on a picture

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>>127968388
Weird feeling, Im sitting right now in one of those buildings, actually most hideous one lel

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>>127969336
I'm not saying we should look at going back. I'm saying the path forward is not post modernism. With the advent of modern construction techniques and the efficiency in which we can execute design and construction we surely could build something that is more of a reflection of our heritage. Understand?

>>127968370

I hope you see the irony in denigrating love for the work of the old masters as reactionary when you're promoting a similarly dead art movement

>>127953693
fuck off, kike

>>127963833

>implying the concept of monarchy isn't a jewish invention

The mind-benders faked our history to make us believe normal people willingly served these narcissistic degenerates.

>>127970821
And democracy is 10 times worse because we cannot out the fuckers heads on sticks when they betray us. Only good thing of a monarchy IMO. Perpetual fear of peasants.

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>>127970821
reminder

>>127971266
Shouldn't you be at work or school?

>>127953693
fuck of Warhol

>>127962547
covenant totally butchered the quote

>>127952539
16/17 I think

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>>127966209
>>>127957744
>>127966141

Zaha Had became nothing without the Western Culture.

>>127952539
>western art thread
you mean italian thread?

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>>127952539

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>>127952539

>>127962904
If Hillary won we would be right behind them. Thank God.

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