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David Irving and Hitler's involvement in the holocaust

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What does /pol/ think about Irving's theory of Hitler being unaware of the holocaust?(systematic extermination of Jews) He says that there is not archived evidence of Hitler knowing anything about the holocaust, and that the holocaust should not be attributed to Hitler


Does his claim hold any merit? What does /pol/ think about it?
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>>127929982
Has anyone collected the reward that he offered?

http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/docs/controversies/Reward.html
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He wasn't "unaware", it just never happened.
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>>127930655
Holy shit they haven't, ddin't even know that was a challenge

>>127930856
The holocaust did happen
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>>127931105
no it didn't.
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>>127929982
It's impossible Hitler was a micromanager who put his nose in everything related to army, economy and security. His ideas were most stupid but his generals couldn't dare say it to his face.

He thought himself as a sort of a god and thought everything he said without knowledge and experience was to be the right thing.
You can see the result of his genius by 1945
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>>127932561
>>127930655
If I'm not mistaken there was some controversy regarding the subject? Someone came forth with some kind of evidence but Irving and whoever else rejected it?
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no proof the holocaust happened.
no dead bodies aside from those who suffered from typhus and starvation, both of Jews and Germans, after Germany was attacked.

Plus the math doesn't work out.

The Holocaust didnt happen.
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>>127929982
The Holocaust literally did not happen.

There is no evidence in favor of the Holocaust.

http://pastebin.com/Uc1EkvGZ
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>>127932895
>>127932561
>>127933193


Yes it did happen, proof is below. Answers a lot of the questions that revisionists have. You can expand it at the bottom
https://imgur.com/a/725A7

>>127932578
Is it possible he was only focused on those things in particular? I mean he was the leader of the country and with all that power you do have to take some responsibility for management of the most important things. I mean it wouldn't be crazy if people did things behind his back, there were hundreds of some of his top men that plotted an assassination against him, not to mention the things that went on in battle with regards to generals disobeying him directly sometimes (Rommel with executions, etc). Playing devils advocate here
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>>127933519
No, it didn't happen. Proof is below. Answers a lot of questions that Holocaust believers have.

http://pastebin.com/Uc1EkvGZ

Pic related. You believe this happened.
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>>127931105
>The holocaust did happen
Oy vey goyim! Never forget the Holocoaster! It totally happened!
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>>127929982
In the codoh forum there is a quote from Hitler citied where he even denies it. He hears about astrocities from an allied radio sender and says something like he is generous that he only wants the working hands from the jews. But sadly the link to the origin doesn't work anymore.
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>>127933519
nice try
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>>127933519
can you give one piece of evidence the holocaust happened? i dont mean some block of text no one will ever read. do you have one piece of evidence you can give right here, right now..or nah?
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>>127933971
:^)
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>>127933840
>>127933971
Look at the link please, also this refutes a lot too

https://imgur.com/a/wo09c

I'm not a jew actually, I just don't believe in lies, I'm a NatSoc actually and part of my belief system is making sure that I hold nothing false within me:

>There should be nothing false in you! The Jew is dishonest. He is born that way and is ever full of deceit. You are born to be honest and to remain honest. Your face does not lie, your words are true, your actions are clear and can stand before all

http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/glauben.htm
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>>127934386
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonderaktion_1005

German documents right here prove it happened
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>>127929982
The Holohoax would have had to happen in the first place for him to be aware of it.
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>>127934768
Any evidence Aktion 1005 took place?
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>>127934614
>Look at the link please,
Funny how you don't have to look at my link, huh?

> also this refutes a lot too
So that's supposed to refute all the evidence in this pastebin?

http://pastebin.com/Uc1EkvGZ

Also, do you actually believe pic related occurred?

>I'm not a jew actually,
Why are you doing their work for them?

> I just don't believe in lies
You mean like the Holocaust?

>I'm a NatSoc actually
lol, not you're not.


>>127934768
>using wikipedia links.
lol
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>>127934386
http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2015/02/john-balls-air-photo-evidence-on.html

Here's more proof, the Ariel photographs revisionists use as counter evidence actually is proof for the pro holocaust crowd.
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>>127934768
oy vey! never forget the nazi's spanking my hiney until it was blistered!

It happened because the nuremberg trials said it happened!
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>>127935043
>here's more proof
>blogspot

Anon, i...


would you like me to debunk Aktion 1005 as a CIA PSYOP?
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>>127934386
The Nazis put a ferret in my butthole dude.

Every time you deny the Holocaust I can feel it scratch around in there again.

How could you do this?

And who is your employer?
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>>127935295
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>>127935043
>holocaust controversies
lol

The "Extermination Camps" of "Aktion Reinhardt": An Analysis and Refutation of Factitious "Evidence," Deceptions and Flawed Argumentation of the "Holocaust Controversies" Bloggers - Carlo Mattogno, Jürgen Graf, Thomas Kues
http://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/28-tecoar-long.pdf

Air Photo Evidence: World War Two Photos of Alleged Mass Murder Sites Analyzed - John Clive Ball
http://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/27-ape.pdf
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>>127934938
>any evidence it took place?

Check the operations paragraph, it has sources and talks about its documentation

>>127935206
>>127935106
>>127934942
Go start a debate thread on /his/ about it, they will have answers to your questions about the holocaust.
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>>127934614
Outsourcing your arguments is so gay. If you're not ready to talk, don't enter a discussion.

Yeah, we get it, you saw something and believed it. Happens all the time man.
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>>127935295
>The Nazis put a ferret in my butthole dude.
At least Hitler didn't personally burn your family at the stake!
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>>127935422
>Go start a debate thread on /his/ about it, they will have answers to your questions about the holocaust.

you dont you want to debate here? :) wonder why not
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>>127935472
>>127935413
>>127935206
>>127935106
>>127934942
The poles knew about the extermination of Jews since 1942
https://archive.org/details/TheMassExterminationOfJewsInGermanOccupiedPoland

Heinrich Himmler speaks of the extermination of the Jews:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a_cmbi3iIg

Joseph Goebbels' Diaries:
Excerpts, 1942-43

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/goebbels-joseph/goebbels-1948-excerpts-01.html

Testimony of Oskar Groening:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVfFHJE0e1g

In 1946 the British government set up an inquiry with the specific intent of discrediting Jewish immigration to Palestine and downplaying the Holocaust. It was headed by centre-right, non-Jewish, senior judges, civil servants and diplomats from America and the UK.

Its reluctant findings estimated the number of Jewish victims from the Holocaust at 5.7 million...

Total Number Jews Killed - 5,721,500

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/angcov.asp

This source refutes the claim that is made by some Holocaust deniers that Red Cross documents support them.
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/orgs/international/red-cross/ftp.py?orgs/international/red-cross//300000-victims.response

accounts of those who lived in the town which regularly saw the trains along with brutal occurrances.
http://www.deathcamps.org/treblinka/zabecki.html

The Wanssee protocol - a discussion between high ranking Nazi officials on "the Jewish question".
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/wannsee.asp

NO NAZI. Ever. Ever. Was a Holocaust denier.
From 1945 onwards, thousands of Nazis were captured and hundreds tried for their part in the Holocaust and other crimes against humanity.
Even men on trial for their lives, in the full knowledge they would be hanged if convicted, never stood up in the courtroom and shouted "This is all a lie! This is a fabrication! There were no gas chambers and no crematoria! I'M BEING FRAMED!!!!"

>inb4 Its all fake you dirty kike!!!!!!
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>>127935422
>Go start a debate thread on /his/ about it,
No.

>they will have answers to your questions about the holocaust.
My questions have already been answered. The Holocaust did not happen.

You can't answer my questions that I did at one point have.

You can't even provide a single picture or film of a so-called gas chamber in operation.
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>>127929982
How should Hitler have been aware of something that never happened?
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>>127935588
>first source is a letter addressed to the (((United Nations)))
ignored
>second source is Himmler
Himmler isnt speak about the extermination of Jews. He's speaking about the Final Solution.
>rest of sources irrelevant if youre stuck at the second
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>>127932578
yep, this. if he listened to Rommel the western front would have never happened. still woulda lost to ussr tho.
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>>127935588
>Heinrich Himmler speaks of the extermination of the Jews:
Heinrich Himmler's Posen Speech from April 10, 1943
http://codoh.com/library/document/891/

Posen Speeches
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Posen_speeches

>Testimony of Oskar Groening:
Torture and Testicle Crushing at Nuremberg
https://www.darkmoon.me/2015/torture-and-testicle-crushing-at-nuremberg/

>Total Number Jews Killed - 5,721,500
Funny, I thought it was 8 million in auschwitz alone
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>the Holocaust didn't happen!
>Trump isn't a Jewish pawn!
pol is stupid
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>>127935881
>>127935993
>>127935881
>>127935708
>>127935668
Just fuck off, if you say you believe it you can make my job a fuckton easier man
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>>127936140
"it was real in my mind"
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>>127936140
>Just fuck off,
Fuck you kike. You don't get to spread your lies about claiming that the "holocaust happened" here.

> if you say you believe it you can make my job a fuckton easier man
Nope. You're not going to earn your shekels here you kike bitch.

There is literally zero evidence for the Holocaust.

"Oy vey! Don't forget the 20 million people killed in gas chambers by the Nazi's!"
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>>127936140
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>>127935995
What does your reality show president have to do with the #yolocaust?
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>>127936140
The Holocaust Summed Up in Eighteen Seconds
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zGwn5R1PC9Q
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>>127935525
Jesus and these were kids at school. Aryan kids. Forced to listen to this trash about the man who did more to fight their true enemy than anyone else in history. Makes my blood boil.

Jews should be registered and sterilized. Quarantining them in their own country isn't enough. The degree to which the default American worldview is kike lies is mind-boggling. Reality is so far from it that you know you can't even deprogram the people you love. My brothers and parents and friends will likely always believe in the Holocaust, anti-racism, feminism and act in self-harming ways because of it.

I want to go back, I want the juicy steak.
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>>127936700
>Jews should be registered and sterilized.
I'd be perfectly fine with all Jews in White countries being shipped off to Israel and never allowed to return.

That way, the Jews know for all time that the White race finally defeated them.
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>>127931105
The Holocaust as defined as the systematic extermination of 6 million Jews (and other groups) ordered by the German State did not happen. Not a single written order or shred of evidence at the "death camps" exists.
Jews and others who died through natural and unnatural causes did happen, because we have the records and graves to prove it.
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>>127936989
stop being a zionist.
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>>127932578
His generals, you mean the ones who wanted to dash straight for Moscow and leave their flanks and rear open to attack?
I don't know why this meme exists. The German generals were intelligent but weren't without their own mistakes. Hitler's plan to capture the Soviet Union's resources and agriculture would have secured the war's victory, instead he allowed his generals to pressure him into a mixed strategy of heading for Moscow while taking resources/agriculture along the way. It resulted in the Wehrmacht being exhausted by the time they reached the gates of Moscow.
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>>127937093
>stop being a zionist.
lol. I don't give a fuck about Israel or the middle east. It's a non-White place that has nothing to do with us.

if it makes you feel any better, I'd be fine with deporting all the Jews anywhere, as long as it's not anywhere close to a White country. Israel is just the best place to send them as it's the only place that wouldn't outright refuse their entry.

They claim it's the homeland of the Jewish people? Okay...all the Jews can be sent there.
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>>127934614
I'm reading through your link's counter arguments and it completely mischaracterises the arguments. For instance I'm on the part of the failed german communist revolution and its making the argument that Liebknecht was not jewish, but fails to mention that literally everyone else like Luxemberg was jewish, and there was a similar situation with the boshelviks. The reason I have serious doubt in the official story people tell us, is that there are just so many coincidences that you can't ignore them.
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>>127937398
stop being a zionist.
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>>127936140

wtf you smoking faggot
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>>127937649
Where would you recommend they be deported to then?
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>>127931105

>The holocaust did happen

Prove it.
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>>127937830
The Jewish Question is complex, and so must be its Answer.
Anyone who says there is a single solution is deceived and deceives others.
I will not give you the full Solution because you're not in a position to enact it.
But I'd have you consider the JQ from this perspective:


>If we threaten to kill all Jews, they will nuke the world
>If we deport the Jews to Israel, they will win because it's exactly what they want, and Hitler knew it
>If we attempt to destroy Jewish culture entirely, they will reject us and engage Judaism with renewed vigor
>If we disperse all the Jews throughout the world, they will eventually slither their way into seats of power, just like they have done and are doing in the many Nations right now

These are four possible solutions to the JQ, and four reasons why they're individually the incorrect.
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>>127938506
>>If we threaten to kill all Jews, they will nuke the world
>>If we deport the Jews to Israel, they will win because it's exactly what they want, and Hitler knew it
>>If we attempt to destroy Jewish culture entirely, they will reject us and engage Judaism with renewed vigor
>>If we disperse all the Jews throughout the world, they will eventually slither their way into seats of power, just like they have done and are doing in the many Nations right now
Fair enough.

I personally believe they're nothing but a cancer, eating the soul of the White race. For that reason alone they have no place and do not deserve to be in White nations.

If we had a White-only, Jew aware, pro-White (aka National Socialist) nation I believe that would go a long way into being able to survive the Jewish threat.
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>>127937615
The logical issue I have with holocaust claimers is that they deny any of the things that would cause someone to have the sheer anger towards jews that they would be willing to kill them ever happened. It does not make any sense to kill the jews unless they were actually a threat. I would be more inclined to believe the holocaust actually happened if people accepted that jews were actually responsible for communism and the other things, because then at least killing them makes sense.

The problem with "jooz dindu nutin" is "why kill them then?"

You can't expect me to believe hitler hated jews for no reason and then tried to take over the world for no reason.
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>>127938859
>If we had a White-only, Jew aware, pro-White (aka National Socialist) nation I believe that would go a long way into being able to survive the Jewish threat.
agreed m8
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>>127938977
>>127937615
But are jews really the bad guys?
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>>127939219
>But are jews really the bad guys?
You have no idea...

The Jews
http://pastebin.com/TzZC78cp
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>>127939219
I'm skeptical of the holocaust deniers arguments as well, I think there were intentional killings, but no gas chambers, and the number was exagerated, but the fact is the jews really were the bad guys of ww2. If the holocaust happened exatcly like they said that would just mean that jews and hitler were both the bad guys. There is too much evidence even without ww2 to say that jews consistently meddle in too much shit.

When it comes down to it, I actually think jews thinking of them selves as perpetual victims is actually hurting them. I actually am friends with a lot of jews and it makes me sad that they have to be my "enemy" so to speak. Ideally I would like to see the general jewish population rise up against the jews who engage in all the different jew schemes so that they can live like normal people instead of also being hated because some of their population won't stop fucking with other groups.
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>>127938977
>You can't expect me to believe hitler hated jews for no reason and then tried to take over the world for no reason.
Exactly.

If I believed the Holocaust happened I'd have to ask myself What did the Jews do to Germany that the NSDAP's logical, reasoned, well thought out response was to "kill every single Jew in Europe" in the most greusome way possible.

Of course then I'd have to ask: What did the Jews do that caused 109 different countries over the course of 2,000 years that made those countries leaders say "You know what, we'd be better off if we just deported every single Jew from our homelands."

One hundred and nine fucking times an entire country got so sick of the Jews shit that they banded together to deport every single Jew they could find.
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>>127940128
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>>127935635
zundel trial buried the holohoax long ago. that summary is heavy nonetheless
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>>127940742
I'm aware that there are no good jews so to speak, but I still think that making them someone else's problem is better than killing them. I dated a jew and my experiences with her and her family has led me to believe that a lot of the subversive behaviour they have is unconscious and they really can't help themselves. Therefore every single jew is a problem, but only the traitorous jews deserve punishment.

You shouldn't exterminate all wolves to protect your flock, but it is worth protecting them from the wolves. You can't really blames wolves for being wolves though.
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>>127929982

I believe hitler was is stupid enough to start a holocaust against the jews.

I mean he did take on 3 fronts at the same time and cost germany it's culture.
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>>127941707
>I believe hitler was is stupid enough
The irony
>That spacing
>>>/r/eddit

Hey they were 10 miles away from the capital of the USSR at one point man. It was stupid yeah but it doesn't mean they didn't do shit at all
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>>127934768
>German documents right here prove it happened
That's not true. There are no wartime documents referring to any such action, because it didn't happen.
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Aktion_1005
>"According to official historiography, Himmler, at a point in time when Auschwitz, allegedly the largest of the German ‘extermination camps,’ began its murderous activity, had not yet thought of building crematoria for the incineration of corpses: the victims of the so-called ‘bunkers’ of Birkenau are supposed to have simply been buried in mass graves, which had been dug in the ‘Birkenwald’ (birch forest). Himmler is supposed to have ordered the cremation of bodies in Auschwitz after his second visit there on July 17 and 18, 1942. As a result of this alleged Himmler order, the incineration of the bodies under the open sky is supposed to have begun on September 21, 1942.

>But during the month before his visit to Auschwitz, Himmler is supposed to have ordered the SS-Standartenführer Paul Blobel, through the chief of the Gestapo, Heinrich Müller, to eradicate all traces of the mass graves:

> “In June 1942 SS-Gruppenführer Müller, chief of the Gestapo, charged SS-Standartenführer Blobel with removing all traces of the mass executions carried out in the east by the Einsatzgruppen. This order was considered a state secret, and Blobel was instructed to refrain from any written correspondence on the subject. The operation was given the code name ‘Sonderaktion (special operation) 1005.’”

>Given the above, it is incomprehensible that corpses were buried in Auschwitz up until September 20, 1942, and in Treblinka up to March 1943; it is similarly inexplicable that cremations in Sobibór are supposed to have begun in the summer of 1942, those in Belzec in the middle of December 1942, and those in Treblinka in March 1943.
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>>127941610
>wolves
you mean parasites
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>>127935993
>>127936338
What if

the Holocaust actually happened AND Jews hyped it and used it for political gain? These two ideas don't need to be exclusive.
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>>127941707
>he did take on 3 fronts at the same time
>he doesn't know about the Saar offensive
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>>127942147
what about this then?
>>127935588

Specifically the thing that came up with the total of 5.7 million dead
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>>127942953
>the Holocaust actually happened AND Jews hyped it and used it for political gain?
The Holocaust didn't happen and the Jews use the lie for their perfect victim status.

Why else would children and grandchildren of "holocaust" "survivors" still be considered "holocaust survivors"? So they can keep getting money and sympathy long after the last Jew who was alive during the "holocaust" is dead.

Children of Holocaust Survivors Inherit the Role of Witness
http://news.yahoo.com/children-holocaust-survivors-inherit-role-witness-060206236.html

Concert Pianist 'Suffering Vicarious Trauma' from Parents' Holocaust Experiences
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/concert-pianist-suffering-vicarious-trauma-from-parents-holocaust-experiences-a6768786.html

Holocaust Survivors' Grandchildren Call for Action Over Inherited Trauma
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/03/holocaust-survivors-grandchildren-inherited-trauma

Holocaust Survivors 'Traumatizing' Their Grandchildren, Campaigners Warn
https://www.rt.com/uk/311463-holocaust-survivor-grandchildren-scarred/

Holocaust Trauma Affects Grandchildren of Survivors
http://haaretz.com/news/study-holocaust-trauma-affects-grandchildren-of-survivors-1.230984

The Holocaust's Long Reach: Trauma is Passed On to Survivors' Children
http://theglobeandmail.com/life/the-holocausts-long-reach-trauma-is-passed-on-to-survivors-children/article23793425/
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>>127943260
Please archive.

>http://independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/concert-pianist-suffering-vicarious-trauma-from-parents-holocaust-experiences-a6768786.html
--> https://archive.is/UURiX
>https://theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/03/holocaust-survivors-grandchildren-inherited-trauma
--> https://archive.is/I8Q6Y
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>>127943300
wtf I see this bot everywhere, is it made by the mods?
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>>127943300
>Please archive.
Yeah, I need to go through all my holocaust related links and archive them all.

>>127943386
Wait, what?
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>>127942953
Do you have any evidence that it happened?
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>>127943386
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>>127943457
Whenever you post a link from a major news site a bot with a Norwegian flag will reply to you with an archived version of it.

Check the replies for this post youll see
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/23/us/tampa-muslim-neo-nazi-killings/

I knew this guy btw
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>>127943466
The actions of the einsatzgruppen are pretty well documented. It's something of a mistake to only think about Western European Jews in concentration camps, when the majority of killing in what eventually was called the Holocaust consisted of extermination of entire towns of Byelorussians out in the fields during the course of Barbarossa
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>>127943846
>The actions of the einsatzgruppen are pretty well documented.
The Einsatzgruppen and the Holocaust
http://whale.to/b/einsatzgruppen_h.html
http://inconvenienthistory.com/archive/2009/volume_1/number_3/einsatzgruppen_and_the_holocaust.php

Examining the Einsatzgruppen Reports
http://cwporter.com/einsatz.htm

And while it hasn't been released yet...

The Einsatzgruppen
http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1&page_id=39
Before invading the Soviet Union, the German authorities set up special units meant to secure the area behind the German front. Orthodox historians claim that these unites called Einsatzgruppen primarily engaged in rounding up and mass-murdering Jews. This study tries to shed a critical light into this topic.
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>>127943817
>I knew this guy btw
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Even mainstream historians cant decide whether Hitler decided it or if it was an unofficial policy brought on by lower ranks
Hitler wasnt present in the Wansee conference when the final solution was decided in the end
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>>127945850
But anon...the Holocaust didn't happen. We've already proven it in this thread.

OP was a shill paid to try and delude us into believing the Holocaust happened and got so buttflustered that he ran off.
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>>127945269
Yeah he planned on killing more atomwaffen members at a national meeting, but he ended up just killing his room mates Jeremy and Andrew. Both were good men who had just moved down there little less than 8 months ago. Hard working guys. Even as a Jew I still think they shouldn't have died. Devon deserves the chair
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>>127933519
>Yes it did happen

Specifically, did it happen in the gas chambers with unsealed doors and widows or in the room with the roller-coaster that went into the giant oven?
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>>127935588
>>127943176
>1
electrocution meme, >>>/trash/

>2
"Ausrottung" is translated directly as "extermination." Extermination is a fine translation, but neither word really implies killing. He's talking about deporting the kikes.

>3
http://inconvenienthistory.com/2/1/1918
http://inconvenienthistory.com/2/2/3109
"Liquidation" refers to deportation.

>etc.
I'm not going to read all your sources when it's evident you haven't done so yourself.
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>>127929982
He was probably aware of it to some degree but he wasn't on the front lines or didn't see it. Himmler had more involvement in it and the only execution he witnessed he fainted at.
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>>127943817
He's just a hard-working /pol/ack trying to clean up the board.

>>127943846
Let's see that documentation.
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>>127946178
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#Use_of_gas_chambers

>>127946407
I agree the translations are wrong, as Hitler didn't know about the holocaust but the holocaust happened dude
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>>127946407
I thought ausrottung = uprooting
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Strategic cucking by irving so he can continue to research his beloved archives without being arrested!
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>>127929982
Well he went and cultivated the primary sources and found the diaries etc etc and none of the other historians of hitler did hes the authority when it comes to hilter as far as Im concerned.
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>>127946651
>I agree the translations are wrong, as Hitler didn't know about the holocaust but the holocaust happened dude
Himmler and Goebbels are different people from Hitler, idiot. Did anyone know about the "Holocaust?"
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>>127947037
yeah Himmler and Goering
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>>127946848
shit, you're right.
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>>127946912
Thanks for the insight friend! And the bump as well
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>>127947129
The speech you've supplied from Himmler is not about killing kikes. Göring was in charge of the Luftwaffe and would have had fuck all to do with camps run by the Army.
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>>127947606
>The speech you've supplied from Himmler is not about killing kikes

What is it about then?
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>>127929982

He is only saying what can be said to avoid the gaols.
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>>127947770
see >>127946407
You could at least try, faggot.
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>>127947194
Ugh. That people translate that as "extermination" rustles my jimmies. The hoaxers don't just tell lies, they tell such lazy and obvious lies.
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>>127947866
>He is only saying what can be said to avoid the gaols.

Elaborate?

>>127947908
Oh, but what about this?:
>>127946651 like the gassings?
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>>127929982
what holocaust?
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>>127948333
this holocaust
https://imgur.com/a/725A7
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>>127933519

You suffer from NIZKORitis.....prognosis negative.
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That dude showed up at a Deborah Lipstahdt presentation when I was in college. I was sitting next to him in the back row, he gave me a signed copy of his biography of Gohring.

Was pretty surreal.
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>>127929982
Hitler had a lot of influence in Germany, its unreasonable to say that he had no idea about the Holocaust. You could argue however that he didn't know to what extent it was being performed.
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>>127948672

Jew Jewing Jewingly.
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>>127929982
It takes a while to realize the implications of the lie of the Holocaust. The greatest lie in the last 100 years.
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>>127948570
Really? Did he say anything? What happened? Was this this?

>>127948498
Prove to me that NIZKOR is wrong

>>127948672
I play devils advocate here: >>127933519
(second paragraph)
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>>127948809
It wasn't a lie though, the revisionists of the holocaust have had their questions answered:
>>127948475
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>>127948733
Jewelry Jewry Jew
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>>127948083
Why gas anyone to death in camps when you could
a) gas them in the special gassing tunnels on train tracks in any agricultural area
b) not give them water for a week
c) systematically underfeed them
d) shoot them
Delousing is the only plausible reason to build giant gas chambers.
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>>127929982
I think that's stupid as fuck. If it were true it would mean Hitler was the dumbest leader the world has ever seen.
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>>127948935

Piss up a rope dreydl dropper.
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>>127936499
i always forget the fuckin punchline. shit cracks me up.
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>>127949050
>If it were true it would mean Hitler was the dumbest leader the world has ever seen.

How? Care to elaborate?
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>>127948809
I think one of the biggest issues with the Holocaust is that you're not allowed to investigate it or question the legitimacy without people calling you an anti-semite or other such. Like they actually made it illegal, which honestly makes the whole thing even more suspicious. From what I can tell, if you want a non-biased source about it, you'd need to hire a team of chinks or something to investigate and send their findings to you in Chinese to get around the law possibly.
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>>127929982
Considering all those letters and first hand accounts about him wanting to kill all the jews id say he knew what was up
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>>127949137
>>127949024
I mean I get that but the thing is they were originally used for delousing until 1943 when they decided to use them for gassing
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>>127949024

The delousing chambers were not giant they were obviously for clothes and bedding. Obviously. Jews are trying to hide the fact that they are sadists who enjoyed tormenting the noobs with tall tales for shits & giggles.
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>>127949326
>Considering all those letters and first hand accounts about him wanting to kill all the jews id say he knew what was up

Care to elaborate?
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>>127949326

They don't exist unlike your sloped forehead and 6 hook beak.
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>>127948935
"Holocaust" in Hebrew means a burnt offering. There was never anything that could be considered a "burnt offering"
The Holocaust as the western world knows it is the biggest fabrication of history in the last 100 years. The Holocaust has served the purpose of demoralizing the German people and instilling fabricated guilt that has had psychological effects that have allowed politicians to flood Europe with nigger migrants. They use that guilt on the Germans the same way they use the fabricated guilt of the American slave trade on the Americans. They use this as a psychological weapon to further cuck the white man.
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>>127936338
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j30sWIOMIak&t=86
86s lol
pic related
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>>127949490
If you truly believe the holocaust holds no merit, I would suggest you go start a thread on /his/ about it. They will answer any questions you have
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>>127949490

Atrocity lie playbook which has been the prime mover for the fomenting of the JWO....in repeats more endless than Bugs Bunny cartoons.
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>>127949350
proofs?
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>>127949624
If you really believe the holocaust did take place in the way they taught it in school then maybe you should go and get off this board unless of course you would be so kind and provide some evidence for your outrageous claims.
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>>127949624

>(((They))) will answer any questions you have


Barry Fenroy Bass
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>>127948866
Yeah, I was forced to go to this thing for extra credit in a history class back in 1994 or 95. She was discussing her book, "Denying the Holocaust".

I was a slack bastard so me and my buddy sat in the back row so we could crack fart jokes and shit and this weird dude with a box full of books dressed like some old English gentlemen was sitting right next to us.

We were chatting with him for about an hour maybe because the whole thing was boring as fuck and he was telling us all this trivia about Hitler and Gohring and whatnot.

Suddenly he jumps up, runs up to the podium and unfolds this giant map of Auschwitz and starts waving money around, shouting something about a bounty if anyone can point out the gas Chambers on the map.

Then the police showed up and escorted him off, and interviewed me and my friend because they suspected we were with him. Fortunately we were just idiot kids so nothing bad happened.
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>>127933519
>https://imgur.com/a/725A7
> I have yet to encounter a stable minded, level-headed individual who denies the holocaust. In almost all cases these people doubt many other "narratives" as well, like 9/11, JFK, the moon landings, global warming, Sandy Hook, European migrant crisis, Bilderberg meetings, and so on.

ahahahahahahah what a fucking retarded faggot
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>>127939219
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiRKv8Fd3HM
elie wiesel is a fraud and a liar
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>>127949846
I did, there is a lot here and here:
https://imgur.com/a/725A7

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial

>>127949855
what?

>>127949869
Wait fucking really???? Dude holy shit, where did you go to college at? The holocaust denial is legal in the U.S. so idk why he would be arrested
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>>127950086
Expand the images at the bottom, it answers every denier question
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>>127940128
sounds alot like the way people link americans to their government. there really is nothing to do unless you are willing to give up your way of life to stop them.
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>>127949869
Apparantly there is video of the confrontation on YouTube, it even has me in it for a few seconds. It wasn't exactly as I remembered it but 21 years was a long time ago...
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>>127940443
>not including guatemala 2014
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>>127950394

Good one chabadnik.
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>>127950235
Photographs of starved emaciated bodies does not prove gas chambers... You need to present PROOF you imbecile.
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>>127950293

Every...every...every....how rich.
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>>127943846
http://archive.is/OeUNh
court evidence on the einsatzgruppen is described in the section named... einsatzgruppen
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>>127948866
>Nizkor
http://archive.is/sLISC
>Also, the Auschwitz furnaces were designed to run continuously, using the heat energy produced by the burning of previous bodies to keep the oven hot for the next bodies.
Straight from Nizkor. You really believe that's possible? If so, you are so retarded that there is no hope for you, but just in case http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/energy/stories/no-we-cant-burn-people-for-electricity
You can't get more energy out of burning people than you put in.
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>>127950235

He only confronted Lipstahdt at a conference once, in Atlanta, the internet says.

I think it was just campus security, not really the cops.
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>>127950876
Also from that same page.
>The crematoriums that were eventually installed at Auschwitz-Birkenau were massive. They were capable of disposing of several bodies per muffle in half an hour or so
Do some calculations of what kind of temperatures that would entail. Then think of what materials could withstand them and the fact that people were supposedly working beside these things and throwing bodies in throughout the day.
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>>127950293
explain how the ovens from 1940 are apperently BETTER THAN nowadays ovens .

also i don t care about your explanation , the article is BIASED as fuck just for saying that people who doubt the "migrant criris and 9/11" are not stable minded people . the writer is probably a sandnigger lover multiculturalist scum .

that being said , i believe the holohoax happened , i just don t believe the numbers . also the fact that it s illegal to deny not only THE FACT THAT IT HAPPENED but ALSO the numbers is weird .
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>>127937018
why would they want records to survive? seems to me they destoryed them on purpose
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>>127951390
and that's that!
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>>127951581
that doesnt answer me. obviously theres no records of any orders or killings, why would they want them to survive? wouldnt they want to get rid of the evidence?
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>>127936700
Damn that guy nailed what taking the red pill is like
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>>127951799
there's nothing to answer because you flat out admitted you're making shit up. pic related.
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>>127952195
what do you mean im making shit up? the prime argument for the holocaust not happening is "theres no records for it bro". why would there be any records? why wouldnt they get rid of the evidence?
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>>127950293
no mention OF THE HAVARA AGREEMENT ! HOW CONVIENIENT
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>>127952606
They never provide evidence.
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>>127952306
>the prime argument for the holocaust not happening is "theres no records for it bro".
the prime argument is that there is an alternate explanation for all the 'evidence.' there are plenty of records for the alternate explanations.
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>>127952306
The Soviets kept records of the Katyn massacre even after the international investigation of it.
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>>127929982
Fuck off Aaron you fat British proxying piece of shit
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>>127948475
>>127948935
>he posted his conspiracy blog again
Every fucking time

MUH GAS VANS, HOLOCOASTERS, ELECTRIC HYDRAULIC FLOORS, MUH NAZI MASS GRAVE DANCE PARTIES
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>>127936700
INTJ here.

I'm here to grow my existing body of reasoning, regardless of world-view. My goal is to finely tune my understanding.

Knoweldge is power.
Thank you /pol/.
Kek be praised.
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>>127953556
I will always win
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>>127954250
>JIDF faggot who's been here for more than 5 years making these threads over and over again posting the same unsubtle stupid shit for pennies has yet again converted anons to the opposite of what he's pushing by making a thread and sperging in it while natives BTFO his fallacies as usual

>>127954356
My only real question is whether or not you ever had any help doing these. I remember a couple threads over the years I saw you RPing as the Portuguese and would have some American back you up instantly after each shitpost.
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>>127933519
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>>127954720
...wrong (You)
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>>127954976
I was referring to OP. He's been here for years making this same kind of bait.
If you see a South African or a Portuguese posting stupid pro-Israel or >GETOUTSTORMFAGS shit it's OP on a proxy guaranteed.
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