HAPPENING Brazil to become monarchy again

Btw here is the proposal, vote YES all of you who can do so
https://www12.senado.leg.br/ecidadania/visualizacaomateria?id=129306

Kan i beez kang?

Sadly it won't happen, confrade.

>>127930190
We wuz kangz though. And got you brits BTFO in a diplomatical crisis involving some ships.

During Pedro II rule Brazil was somewhat respectable (I mean, considering it's Brazil we are talking about).

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>>127930190
the eternal britcuck strikes again.

you are the scourge of the earth, stay off BR thread pls.


-REMINDER THAT ANGLOS CAUSED FAVELA PROBLEMS AND NIGGERS ALL OVER THE WORLD-

>>127930112
Nope, we have a royal family already, the Orléans-Bragança

>>127930212
I really wanna see the sjw cucks and commies discussing it in their snowflake committee, and all the attention this will get from click-baity media and shit.

They might just throw it away because they forgot to cross a t or something

>>127930190
This was meant to u >>127930593

>>127930212
shit I forgot about confraria. didn't check caravelas for a good while

>>127929981
Don't you have TWO pretenders?

How you going to sort that out?

>>127930707
One is not a pretender. Some people pretend for him (small, small minority) but he said he's a republican and his ancestors resigned the throne (a few cucks argue this is illegal and thus he is kang anyway).

There isnt even a debate tho. Its not like the shitshow in France

>>127930707
That's a minor problem.
Frankly I think that for us to return to a parliamentary monarchy at this point is almost impossible.

instead of a banana republic it's going to be a banana empire. quite the improvement

>>127930190
To be kang you only need to name one. It's not a great achievement. Nigs had kangs too, for example Mansa Munsa.

>>127930702
We miss you anon.

>>127930707
Good ol' war will do the trick

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>>127929981
Brazil is too far gone anon. If it wants to rise to a monarchy again it'll first need to be burned to the ground so the degeneracy can be purged

>>127931130
That was not a proper king. Ours is from a proper european dynasty and even Habsburg ancestry. Hundreds of years thrown away by republicucks who later said it was a mistake (literally)

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>>127931159
geee anon. what are you saying all the sudden

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>>127931523
>Richest man in the history of mankind
>Not a proper kang

>>127929981
Jesus... I hope so, i have lost faith in our country, the only thing i look forward here is seeing more corrupt politicians getting jailed, and Bolsonaro getting elected next year (I don't even like him, but i crave to see and hear the braindead left crying all day all night)

>>127929981
so wait... hol up... hol up.. u wuz saying... Brazilians.....

More info:
Brazil was an Empire from 1822 to 1889 (constitutional after 1824 and parliamentary after 1847). It had two emperors Pedro I of Brazil (aka Pedro IV of Portugal) and Pedro II of Brazil.

The current proposal changes some stuff to how it was back then (nominating judges for ex), adds some powers (referendums and plebiscites) and changes some other stuff (more powers to the PM, less executive powers to the monarch and not going back to a unitary state, keeping federalism).

Unlike most normal countries, it had 4 powers: legislative, judiciary, executive and moderating, based on the ideas of Benjamin Constant.

The political opinions and institutions back then were largely inspired by the British Monarchy and the French July Monarchy

Previous thread
https://yuki.la/pol/124661263

>>127931379
there can't be mass purging of millions of people without getting global attention from leftist human waste, anon.

whatever planes for the future, we gotta make do without short therm culling.

>>127931353
I hope you all succeed.

BTW br anons dont forget to watch this once it comes out
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o5kbCMJGjFI

Their first series redpilled people on cultural Marxism and shit, and the next one will be on our hidden history

>>127931523
Kek they're an agnatic descendent of Hugues Capet, the Habsburgs mortal enemies. Kind of weird you emphasized that.

>>127931952
let's manufacture a nuclear bomb, send it to Brasilia and say it was for ISIS, global war against the goatfuckers and the chance to reconstruct the country

>oh wait we're brazillians making a nuclear bomb is as hard as socialism working

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SOON

>>127929981
>Senate will have to discuss it
why are you calling this a happening? this is nothing

>>127932160
is it redpilled?

>>127932294
Bananas have potassium I'm sure if you get enough of them in one room you could give someone cancer.

>>127932294
yeah, nuclear bombs are overated anyway. we need to cover big areas.

[we could always call politicians to RJ and throw a stone at angra III for a nuclear blast]

>>127932418
It was illegal for anyone to discuss it for more than 100 years, and now, for the first time in ages, they'll have to discuss it in the senate, and more and more people are talking about it and learning about it. When we had a vote in 1993 they held it in a republican holiday, no one properly defended the position and people were so ignorant about it that they thought slavery would come back if monarchy won.

The window is shifting fast

>>127932160
What does it say? Is there an English version, I don't speak hue

>>127932492
If you mean le ebil joos, no, but it exposed commies from Marx to Gramsci to agitators like Alinsky, how the NGOs psid by Soros and the Rockefellers shill for leftwing bs which destroys civilization, talked about the Frankfurt school, etc

i support this! everyone deserves to be kang

>>127933144
And with no pussyhats, hopefully

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>>127929981
>support nigga empire
No
Actually sure, black nation has never tried us Iberians and our sons.

This is so fucking dumb.

>>127932977
K, I'll translate

>>127933610
t. 56%
we are both blacked, friendy, shut up

>>127933610
I don't even get your post

>>127934699
Ignore posts made by that faggot, just some desperate cocksucker fishing for replies using his horrendous mug.

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>Shitty monarchy
>Let's end the empire and create a republic!!!
>It will fix our problems

>Shitty republic
>Let's end the republic and go back to a monarchy!!!
>It will fix our problems

The problem of Brazil are the brazilians.

>>127932814
>nuclear bombs are overated anyway
Nuclear weapons are the difference between being feared and not being feared. A non-nuclear nation cannot win an offensive invasion war against a nuclear nation.

I really fucking hope this happens.
Is it realistic?
When even was the last time a monarchy got restored?
godspeed Brazil.

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>>127932978
well redpill means taking the harsh truth. not necessarily naming the jews, but honesly most redpills that avoid naming the jew are fucking pussified for political correctness anyway

>>127935019
Probably Spain in 1978

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>>127929981
>Inb4 a monarchy doesn't work and becomes more corrupt than the previous regime.

>>127932160
Screen: This isn't Brazil
Journalist 1: [We'll] Talk about the violence that kills more than the war in Syria
Journalist 2: A fall of 3.8%...
Journalist 3: Accuses Senator Aécio Neves of participating in fraud...
Sen. Aécio Neves: I did this because I didn't have money
Pres. Michel Temer: I will not resign. [this was this year]
Former Pres. Lula: What project of country, and of the construction of a civilized society? [images from him being interrogated for his coming trial]
*Images of a bunch of corrupt politicians and violent thugs (both normal criminals and antifa-tier)*
Hélio Beltrão: We really lost ourselves in history, in the past we had great men, in Brazil's past,
Luiz Philippe de Orleans e Bragança: To José Bonifácio I'd say... I understood you
Thomas Giulliano: What do you know of Brazil? Don't you think you're singularizing Brazil in light of the ephemeral? Of what we're living today?
I dunno who this voice belongs to: Brazil is like this, but Brazil isn't like this
Luiz Philippe de Orleans e Bragança: To Dom Pedro I [his ancestor btw] I'd say... thank you
Thomas Giulliano: And in his testament [D. Pedro II's IIRC]: Brazilian... Patriot.
Hélio Beltrão: They planted a seed... This seed... Wasn't forgotten, it bore fruit
Luiz Philippe de Orleans e Bragança: So, only brazilians can't see it, because they're exposed to narratives [marxist ones], lies... So we have to understand we have a mission... A mission of making this country represent the potential it always had.
Thomas Giulliano: When we think that so many giants loved Brazil, we realize our responsiblity.
Hélio Beltrão: And I'm certain that, in the future, in the future, in some moment, some people will point both to our ancestors and to us and say: "These guys had to do with this"
Screen: For the first time.
Screen: The hidden history of Brazil.
Screen: Will be revealed.
Screen: Five free episodes [they make free episodes and sell the lectures used to create each one]

>>127932160
>>127935624
Then the title: Brazil, the last crusade, which is probably a reference to the fact that the country was created by the Order of Christ, direct descendants of the Knights Templar in Portugal (and from other countries), and the discovery and colonization of the americas by Portugal (spain too but who cares about them in this context?) was seen, and is being rediscovered by historians, as a direct continuation of the crusader spirit of militant catholicism [the people there are all redpilled on Islam btw] that lasted from the crusades until after the reconquista.

I love monarchies.
First Brazil hopefully, then finally Russia gets a Tsar.

>my country is corrupt, both its leadership and the parliament are in the hands of megacorps who only take care of themselves
>therefore I shall make one of them king

loool

>>127934881
But the decision to go for a republic wasn't a popular decision

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>>127929981
First it was communism, now you're going with monarchy?

>>127935019
They tried to do it before. 86.6% said no. It won't happen. The british monarchy is useless and contributes nothing to the country.

And this was after another impeachment (we had just got away from a dictatorship and our first president ellect by the popular vote was impeached. The plebiscite happened during the whole process and still lost.

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>>127935767
Oh papa, what happened to you.

>>127935767
>therefore I shall make one of them king
No, portuguese education, that's not what it's being proposed at all.

>>127935816
This. A literal cuckold got together with republicans, who never ever had electoral success (not even 5% of the votes) and fucked up the country for good. Even federalism, the only good thing they did, was gonna be introduced in 1889 with a new bill letting provinces make legislation and increasing their powers.
But we don't learn shit about our history, especially the most important period in the XIXth century, just marxist revisionism (literally the name of this historiographic school) and muh poor politicians persecuted by le ebil military. 200 years of history and we don't learn shit.
To burguers, imagine if your schools brushed over the founding fathers, the war of independence, lied through it's teeth about the early republic and focused it's classes on the period from FDR to Obama, that's what we have here, no knowledge of history and perpetual institutional revolution.

>>127935934
the fact we manage to make impeachments happen is already a fucking good sign won't you say?

same as a military coup. WE MAKE SHIT HAPPEN.

americucks, anglocucks, french etc etc etc, they are bystanders of their politics, we at least are constantly using every play on the book.

>>127935934
>The british monarchy is useless and contributes nothing to the country
It does, they lease fuck loads of land to the Government for well below market value, and allow the Govt to use it. And they're a diplomatic powerhouse and serve as advisers to our PMs


Anyway, what are the chances of this happening, and what powers, if any, would the monarch hold?

>>127936451
We are fixing things. We will impeach every single president ever until we get a single one that isn't a corrupt fuck.

>>127929981
They're right, the presidential system leads to conflicts of interest and other clusterfucks.
The answer is parliamentarism and a division of foreign policy from domestic policy. Do you not have a "home secretary" post in the Brazilian system?

I've read this whole thread and I still don't get it. Why is an emperor going to make everything better? You have a corrupt society. That's why you have corrupt leaders. Changing their title won't change the fact that every Brazilian in a position of power will try to loot the country.

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>>127936451
You make shit happen, and then find out you only made things worse than before.

>>127936600
>they lease lands
A land that belongs to a monarch isn't legitimate because it was taken by force instead of bought, thus violating the NAP. Correct thing would be remove monarchs and take their lands back for the state so your government spends zero pounds on its rent.

>>127935931
First was monarchy, then positivism, then more oligarchic positivism, then quasi-fascist labor unionist bit state bs, then pure populism, then more nationalist and technocratic positivism, then just pure oligarchy + social democracy + populist "21st century" "democratic socialism", all three in 20 years of a "social-democratic consensus".

During the monarchy we had 60 years of stability, the most stable period we ever had, a single currency, a single constitution, no coups, and after around the 40s constitutional monarchy similar to Britain's back then (we had a larger % of people who could vote than they did) and with a more-or-less stable party system. Then with the republic we had at least 6 coups, 10 currency changes, 6 constitutions and constant fucking crisis, with several party systems that ended up with almost 30 parties in congress, over half of which represent absolutely nothing

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>>127935934
>Contributes nothing.
Tourism, diplomatic relations, national symbol, cultural icon and centre piece. Aswell as others, like an objective force kind of within politics that people can turn towards too. Even if they were just there for show the tourism money alone makes them good. For a lot of countries I would say shouldnt have them like the US for example wouldnt make sense, not so sure about Brazil but an Empire being around would be cool af. If every country was a republic (the road we`re on) etc. then imagine how fucking bland that would be, completely forgetting our roots.

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Nós é reis and shit...

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>>127935715
It sure would be nice to see Brazil go Deus Vult

>>127931711

The Rothschild patriarch is the richest man to ever live.

That nigger had gold, these kikes own the Fed reserves of the world

>>127936935
Right by conquering or by blood (ancestors).
Theyre the legitimate ways of ownership. We`ve already established this as humans.
And yeah then the government gets less money from no tourists and the money they bring.

>>127935934
they had less than 5 years to spread the message, a very short campaign and the people had no historical awareness of our monarchist past.

This is all changing, and the project is to help get the idea out there and shift the window, which is already shifting with books by monarchist authors becoming best-sellers, monarchist congressmen and more pundits and shit supporting monarchy
>>127936451
true, people are waking up

>>127936702
we had one until 1990

>>127929981
>become an empire again
top bantzkek, joãoa, keep us posted

>I voted Yes

By, the way, fid the last /pol/ voting worked in this site? About rape allegations or something?

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>>127937002
You would still need to purge corrupt leaders though.

>>127938132
I remember this rape allegation one... I voted yes but i didn't see any news from it, I don't even know if it got the majority approval

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>>127938225
The royal family will take care of that I guess. Executions?

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>>127938414
I guess that makes sense.

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>>127938832
Good old beheading to make an example.

>>127939096
Perfect!

>>127936766
He's not elected, we already know who it is and his character, + he has no power to steal anything or even act corruptly, and is not in his personal interest to do so (he has everything he needs, his children depend on his throne, he'll never leave power, etc) and this is the whole purpose of having a monarchy too, see Hoppe's book Democracy the God that Failed, or the example of Liechtenstein (Hans Adam is a friend of our royal family), or Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn's works

>>127938132
It's still in the committee http://www25.senado.leg.br/web/atividade/materias/-/materia/128460, and the rapporteur is a politician who happens to be a socialist and a feminist, so I think it might get the axe.

>>127936766
It's the idea of putting a dude who is basically portugese on the throne, who was trained his whole life to rule a country, and realizes that if he fucks up his whole family will get guillotined

>>127938414
I am mostly glad of getting the royal authority on a slippery slope.

right now they are nothing, and that was not the plan when Don Pedro declared this place separate from Portugal [which is a minuscule country Brasil was supposed to replace]

>>127929981
Just voted yes, son.

>>127938225
People vote for them, we'll have one election next year. This change would at least give us more flexibility to get rid of shitty governments like the brits have, and a way to work around politicians, with the king, to have referendums that increase our power against the government's. Imagine if you could just have the emperor call a referendum on term limits or a balanced budget if so requested by a high enough number of people, without needing to convince the politicians to do that which they'd never do, for ex, within the bounds of law. See the thread I posted on yuki.la for more examples. The king is a conservative catholic too, so the power he could abuse the most (appointing judges, usually based on a list made by lower-level judges and lawyers) would be riggint the Supreme Court to block lib bullshit, which is better than what we have today, with corrupt and progressive judges.

You can see it as a further division of power and a new check to balance shit out. In the XIXth century the king was even acclaimed, so parliaments around the country approved him b4 he turned into emperor (only happened once tho), today we could change this to acclamation by the people.

The guys who would become emperors are pretty serious, honest and respects freedom 2. They're familiar with the founding fathers, the classics, proper governance through history, etc, while our political class are retards or marxists. Imagine having a monarchist and catholic Thomas Jefferson, and if he dies and the next one is shitty we can jut not vote for him to become the next emperor

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>>127939663
>>127939703

>>127939703
Interesting.

Hope it works out for you all

Brazilian Empire and US team up to conquer NA and SA?

>>127939801
>you can vote for him [the heir] not to become emperor

I've found the issue!

>>127939703
It was unavoidable. They wanted to take our equal status away, and we had more land and, with time, more people.

If the United Kingdom still existed they'd be like the 5th largest state and bossed around by people far away, effectively becoming our colony
>>127939980
in this case, his son, not him, who would be dead.
It's in his best interest to work for the people (the constitution of 1824 made the emperor the representative and embodiment of the nation) than to try to pull shit up, or power-hungry republicucks can bring him down, or the people can fuck his entire family forever

>>127929981
bump

>>127929981
Stop embarrassing your country, please. Jesus Christ

Calling dibs on capitania santana.

>>127939979
Pedro II saw the US positively and both countries had averagely good relationships

Dude was based https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_II_of_Brazil
http://madmonarchist.blogspot.com.br/2009/07/monarch-profile-emperor-pedro-ii-of.html
http://madmonarchist.blogspot.com.br/2014/04/empire-in-americas.html

>>127940899
>empire of brazil
>capitania

>Brazilian education

>>127940290
This leaf has some nice stuff about monarchy
http://maplemonarchists.weebly.com/blog/crowned-democracy-an-update-on-the-state-of-academic-research-on-monarchy

Do you people hate the queen like Straya?

>>127941243
>23 posts by this id.
>stable

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEaEgDFYEfM

Are you guys really going to become an Empire?

>>127929981
>implying the system will correct itself
dude

>>127941649
kek.

>>127940237
is my assessment as well, IDK if it was the proper call to do it so quickly, but it was indeed inevitable.

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>>127929981
I can't say how happy I am for you

I always had the idea that if Mexican and Brazilian empires would have flourished latin america would be the crown jewel of the world

>>127941940
Not soon, but possibly yes. It's more likely now than ever before, at least.
We're not strongly republican, we were never strongly republican like people in hispanic countries or france or anything. A few people in the army (the navy is more loyal) decided to change the system, the emperor said he didn't want bloodshed and left peacefully, even though he was very popular at the time.
People didn't fight or die for the change, they just went along with it (a few tried to fight against it but got btfo because they were illiterate peasants against a proper army with cannons and shit)

>>127942134
if the Cortes had gone better it might take longer, but Portugal was also a shitshow back then and our MPs didn't like being treated like shit and having the portuguese politicians saying we couldn't even have judicial courts anymore.

It was then or never, methinks.

>>127935816
sure thing, would you really like to put the future of your county in the hands of the majority of the people? I wouldn't trust 98% of Brazilians to do my taxes.

>>127942397
it would certainly be better than what it is today.

No PRI, for ex.

When I read this article I can't help but get pissed at the retards of the past
http://madmonarchist.blogspot.com.br/2014/04/empire-in-americas.html

And unlike Mexico, where it would be harder to keep an austrian king hated by half the country, we had a proper empire too, with all legitimacy one could have, whose history was tied to the country's history all the way back to the start, with no large opposition coming from society.

>>127942397
dont take this the wrong way and thanks for the kind words I agree.


But what the fucking hell there is a cactus on that flag.

>>127943127
damn mexicans, man.

>>127943127
all their flags have cactuses

>>127941709
will watch it, thanks

Hey amigo, do you want to solve all brazil problems?
Just kill all brazillians

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>>127943127
HAHAHAHHAHAHAH

I must admit I don't like it, but it is part of the legend

https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandeira_do_M%C3%A9xico

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>>127944427
some of them don't have cactuses, some even look germanic

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>>127942802
I am not talking about Don Maximilian the first, even though I respect him as a ruler and man I do not agree with the idea of installing a French puppet in Mexico, oh no my friend.... I was referring to Excmo. Don Agustin I of the first Mexican empire and father of independence, pretty much like Brazilian empire, Iturbide didn't faced any kind of opposition by the people, instead the same congress he created alongside the US betrayed him

https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agust%C3%ADn_de_Iturbide

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>>127944624
Man, there is even a fascist emblem for Mexico, the flag has passed on to many hands, but the original flag is the one eagle on top of the cactus eating a snake

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>>127944427
kek, well what can a man do.

>>127944624
is the eagle. 3 out of the 3 reichs had eagles on them. even if is wrong people associate things

>>127945464
the colors too
>>127944931
redpill me on iturbide. What did he do good, how did he get power, why he lost

I've read more on Maximillian since he was from around the same period as our empire, and ruled for more time

>>127934881
>monarchy
>shit

HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE

>>127944931
>maximilian
>a french puppet

t mexican intellectuals

>>127929981
I want to be the fire-minister

>>127946138
t. Mad monarchist?

>>127932160
Somehow associated with Olavo de carvalho.....
shilling here...
trying to be breitbart tupiniquim..

This is the end.

Pathetic.

Race of snakes! Everyone her no one will scape the wrath of God. I'm just saying.

>>127946795
even more extreme than that but I do like his stuff.

>>127947003
Absolutist?

>>127947289
indeed

>>127929981
Oh my sides, when are you guys going to notice that our problem is ourselves?
All we have to do is get out of this big pile of shit.

>>127947732
Any website giving arguments on why absolutist is better? Id like to read it

>>127929981
lmao, now you want the monarchy? Why you get rid of it in the first place? For the meme freedoms? You got what the people wanted, which is hell. Now lay in your bed

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>>127945674
Quick rundown

>1810 Napoleon invades Spain, unlike the Portuguese who fled to the Americas the Spaniard royal family got captured
>Instability
>Newborn United States of America is becoming powerful as fuck
>Cura Hidalgo, a priest in Dolores makes a revolt against the Spanish gov
>The Criollo's version was "Even though we agree with the independence of New Spain we are not comfortable with blood spilled" -t. Agustin de Iturbide
>Hidalgo fights 4 months of a civil war that lasted 11 years
>There are two sides
>"Los insurgentes" who fought for independence led by Morelos, Guerrero, and some others
>"Los Realistas" who were loyal to Spain led by Agustin de Iturbide
>Years pass by, the rebels being raped by Itubide's forces
>1820, the Insurgentes decimated, Iturbide sent a message to Vicente Guerrero asking for his surrender, Guerrero replied asking Iturbide to serve his country
>They both decide to meet at Acatempan and non-erotically hug
>February 24 1821 iturbide and Guerrero sign "Plan de Iguala" on which 3 guarantees are stablished

>Catholicism
>Independence
>Americans (referring to the natives) and Europeans are brothers

>The "Ejercito Trigarante" was created
>The newly formed army made a victorious parade trough the whole country while civilians and military joined them
>New Viceroy, Juan de O'donoju arrives to Mexico and accedes to dialogue with Iturbide
>He had no choice but to sign a pact that recognized the independence of the Mexican empire, "Tratados de Cordoba"
>Iturbide asked for Fernando VII as the new emperor or someone from his family (Bourbon)
>Spetember 27 1821 "Entrada triunfante, el ejercito Trigarante" (Victorious entrance, the ejercito trigarante) pic related
>The end of 300 hundred years of Spanish domain
>Fernando disapproved the tratados de Cordoba and didn't sent a Bourbon to reign in Mexico
>The people started seeing Iturbide, the victorious general as a possibility to occupy the throne

tb Continued...

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>>127946138
Enlighten me then

>>127948071
I just read old books on archive.org. That and I'm a catholic who believes in divine right. Read some Filmer, De Maistre, Chateaubriand and the memoirs of kaiser wilhelm the second for some monarchist views

.>>127948520
not up to me to prove a negative mexican intellectual, prove he was a french puppet.

>>127948084
The army was filled with positivist cultists, their chief, who was a monarchist until the very day he created the republic, got tricked into thinking he was gonna be arrested by the new PM republicans who never managed to elect many deputies, and who got mad that after this PM a guy who cucked him would be the new one. The army was mad for a while due to bs reasons, some people were mad their slaves got freed (only some 20% of blacks were slaves by then, abolition was gradual) and catholicucks who got involved in a conflict between freemasons and ultramontanist jesuits

We never had a mass-movement in favor of republicanism, and it was never popular among the people (only le anointed intellectuals and le progressives liked it)

>>127948676
>De Maistre
Im reading his book on the French revolution. Smart guy

>>127948084
As always, an American being ignorant, what a surprise!

The Republic was stabilished almost overnight and by a few people, the population had no participation whatsoever, and this shit still plagues us to this very day. That's why we want to get rid of it

>>127949556
Locke was a memelord, in his book he literally says parents lack authority over their children. I can't believe people take him seriously.

>>127929981

Well, this is the endgame, right? Push racemixing until everyone is linked only by the state then give the state unending power.

>>127935328
It's possible, but the sword of Damocles exists for that purpose. Just keep the jews and retards out so that you won't spiral back into democracy hell.

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>>127948438
>Congress decides to make him emperor
>Iturbide asked the congress to create a constitution
>"Yeah, sure dude" said the congress which is full of Freemasons, Jews and american spies
>Congress accused him of tyranny for asking them to do their work
>Not to mention the financial chaos that the war brought
>After many assassination attempts Iturbide arrested 66 clerics and members of the congress
>1822 Iturbide finally decides to get rid of the congress and forms a court
>December 2nd of the same year, the infamous governor of Veracruz... Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna began a revolt against the empire, soon, Iturbide's friends like Vicente Guerrero and Nicolas Bravo joined Antonio's forces

>As a fun fact, Santa Anna pretended Iturbide's sister who at the time had about 60 years, Iturbide gently shows him the exit of his house as he showed to be a brute, later when he was governor of Veracruz during the empire Iturbide made a visit without warning, he accused him of corruption and gently shows him the exit once more

>Eventually Iturbide restored the congress and in march of 1823 he abdicates the throne leaving to Europe
>Congress made him a traitor and sentence him to death if he ever put a feet in Mexico again
>At this time, as Iturbide left Mexico, center America did as well
>At the same time, Spain was planning on reconquering Mexico
>After hearing this, Iturbide decided to return to mexico and offered his sword in case of war
>little did he knew that the congress sentenced him to death
>As soon as he set foot on Mexico the congress sentenced him to death
>Without a lawyer, decree, not even a priest to confess he got shot in Padilla, Tamaulipas

Mexico recognizes Miguel Hidalgo as the founding father

Just fuck my shit up man

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>>127948676
>Napoleon III wants to install a puppet gov in Mexico as Juarez refuses to pay his debts
>Seeing as Maximilian wasn't doing anything important he wants him to be the new emperor of Mexico
>False letters and greetings from Mexico arrive to Maximilian's house in Miramar
>He gets bumped
>Napoleon sends him on his assault in Mexico
>Installs a second Mexican empire

That's the whole premise, what happens later like Max ignoring Napoleon and making Mexico great again falls into other subject

>>127950142
How did his constitution work? Was power divided, what powers were held by who? Were there just 3 powers like most countries, or 4 like ik brazil? (poder moderador)

How does his rule compares to Maximillian's?

>>127949895
they're brazilians
it might be for the better that they don't get the freedom to vote and stuff
since you know, they're like the real-socialism meme ball

Which family/individual would gain the crown and what garuntee is there he wont be a puppet cuck?

>>127950502
>hes a puppet because a foreign power helped him gain power

k

>>127950656
>>127949895
This would increase separation of powers, and voting would still happen. Just not for president, having a PM instead

>>127950766
The same dynasty that created the country and reigned until 1889. In 100 years out of power they kept uncucked, even though they spent years in France.

Luis Philippe, in the vid above, for ex, campaigned against a proposed new migration law that was 100% cucked and open borders (and the most absurd parts got vetoed due to it) and talks about the islamic danger.
The head of the Royal House is even more based

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>>127950637
There was only the congress and the emperor as he didn't had any economic nor political plan in mind, the first empire was stuck as the congress and military showed to be non-cooperative, the constitution didn't arrive until he left and Mexico was a republic who had lost center america

>>127950781
Didn't you read?

France put him in power, later, he showed to be more Mexican than Austrian and France stopped supporting him because Max wasn't capitulating and Prussia was becoming crazy

Even though, for the common folk, he is an invader, the only ones who liked him were the ones who lived in the DF because they experienced his rule

>>127929981
Join the monarchy club brazzil

>>127951164
Thats surprisingly good news.

How popular is he?

Do Brazilians have a religious attachment to parlimentary democracy?

>>127930212
>>127930112
Ya, it not happening.

>>127931040
Nem um regime militar teremos, quanto mais a volta do império, os militares se corromperam, se acomodaram de uma forma quase que irreversível. Só lembrando que eles são os reais culpados de tudo, já que deram o golpe em 1889. O partido republicano era insignificante eleitoralmente.

>>127951843
most brazilians don't learn shit about the period, don't know shit about parliamentarism and have no idea how our monarchy worked.

It's a growing movement, but it's not a mass movement yet.

They're organizing, more people claim to be monarchist than ever since 1889, books about the period are all getting more popular, and there is increased interest in the imperial age, a new documentary series (linked above) will be put online about the period, more authors claim to be monarchists, there is currently a rediscovery of brazilian political history going on (especially XIXth century politics, especially our conservative tradition), but I can't claim you'll just walk into a bar and meet a monarchist.

Seems more likely to happen now than in any year in the last century, but the idea of this proposal (I doubt it'll pass) is to help increase awareness of the issue.

One thing to notice is that we never had a strong republican movement, shit just happened out of nowhere, with no public support, and people went along with it (banning monarchist literature for 100 years helped, too). It's also really hard to defend our republic, since it was a complete failure.

See these for the (not so) quick rundown
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>>127931936
>>127932834
>>127936318
>>127937002
>>127937582
>>127939608
>>127939801
>>127940237
>>127942469
http://madmonarchist.blogspot.com.br/2009/07/monarch-profile-emperor-pedro-ii-of.html
http://madmonarchist.blogspot.com.br/2014/04/empire-in-americas.html

HUE HUE GIBE EMPIRE BACK OR I COUP U

>>127952794
this will be real impressive if you hues manage to pull this off

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If you do, don't worry. We will come and bring you democracy

>>127954128
I heard, sometime ago, that there was some slav country where 56% were in favor of restoration. if they do it, it might help other people in other countries to do so to, especially if it works

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>>127934881
> brazil gets nukes and glasses paraguay

>>127955261
when we tried to get nukes, it was to glass argentina

>>127955261
Nah its
>Brazil gets nukes and a monarchy
>Paraguay declares war on Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay with the intent of restoring the Republic
>gets glassed.

>>127942397
If even the Porfiriato hadn't collapsed into civil war because of autists who worshipped the idea of a democracy then Mexico would be a million times better nowadays

>>127934291
72% actually

>mfw hispanics try the "white hispanics aren't white" meme

That would make literally 100% of Latin America and Iberia non-white you retards

>>127956823
>That would make literally 100% of Latin America and Iberia non-white you retards

>>127936935

All land was taken by force at some point you mongoloid, if taking land by force means you don't have legitimate claim to it then purchasing that land is no more legitimate

Found those nice vids, what do u guyses think?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4fo29SC64I

>>127929981
Based if true

>>127962911
we're trying

>>127962292
Last bump