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Canada raising minimum wage to $15

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What do browsers on /pol/ think of this? I have a feeling they are pushing to make humans obsolete to automation in order to then shill for UBI.
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>>127910212
It's over for small business. Say hello to the corporation of Canada.
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Thats basically 11$ USD, whats the minimum wage in the US?
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prepare for your wave of barista immigrants from the US
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submitting job applications right now. enjoy your more expensive tim hortons
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>>127910562
Varies state to state and even city to city. Federal minimum wage is $7.25.
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>>127910562
7.50 or something
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>>127910212
Pretty much make working a minimum wage job a viable way to live. Problem with be getting one in the first place I think.
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>>127910212
aint 15 dollars canadian like 4 bucks USD?
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>>127910589
OH YES.
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>Ontario
>Canada
Fuckoff
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>in a recession
>Further kills any small businesses
>Drama teacher really checks out
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>>127910212
>I have a feeling they are pushing to make humans obsolete to automation in order to then shill for UBI.
good
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>>127911935
higher salaries = more money.
basic economy, duh
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>>127910562
Remeber the cost of living in the US is way lower. 7.50 would go a lot farther than a Canadian 15
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>>127911557

It's apparently going to happen in Alberta too.

This country is gonna go broke what with raises minimum wage, the housing bubble in Toronto and Vancouver.

The only hope we have to survive as Canadians is to push Western Separatism. Ontario is heavily in debt, and the Maritimes and Quebec are just more dead weight.
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which means more unemployment and less jobs.

which means more control over the people due to gibs me dats
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>>127910212
>Canada raising minimum wage to $15

source?
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>>127910212
I work in a trade that effectively can't be automated until AI with human-level critical thought and problem solving is developed along with a suitable android body. It only feeds my contempt to see these bottom-feeders demand a middle-class lifestyle with a mcjob.

Luckily, their jobs are much more easily replaced by machines.
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>>127913224
It's just Ontario, and probably BC if the NDP/Green coalition takes power.
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>>127912666
Satan is right. Balkanization in general though. Sparsely populated unique cultures with nothing in common and separated by thousands of kilometers. Only way to preserve said cultures is to break up.
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>>127910212
Maybe the high prices will make you fatass canucks lose some weight
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>>127914114
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>>127914114
That's up north, where everything costs a million dollars. Nobody cares what shit costs in Nunavut.
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ITT: High school drop out don't have a clue about canadian political system
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>>127914231
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>>127910212
Isn't that like 5.25 in real dollars?
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Sucks for me. Was already making 13.75/hr at my job, been there for 5 years. My pay got moved back to the current minimum wage,12.20 so now I'm making as much as a new hire. The justification was that in order to save labor costs, everyone will be moving down to minimum wage,12.20 and nobody will be receiving raises anymore since the min wage will be going up to 15.

Great for new hires but it pisses me off that all my experience means Jack shit.
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>>127914418
It's $0 in any dollar, since lil Trudy sold our gold.
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>>127910212
>humans obsolete

Good. Maybe then they will quit pushing to flood the US and Canada with shitskin barbarians and soulless chinks.
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>>127910212
he looks so old...
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>>127913831
They will, its all but confirmed.

Highly unlikely the new coalition will 'accomplish' anything of the sort though imho.
>inter-leftist bickering
>undoing all the corruption and misplays of the Liberals
>pandering to the chinks
>higher priorities for the populace such as the homeless problem, lack of police resources, or the rising drug problems
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>>127910212
>What do browsers on /pol/ think of this?
Google Chrome isn't sentient yet.
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>>127910212
why not raise it to $50 or 100?
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>>127911253
It's like 11$USD
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>>127913831
It's Alberta too. By Oct 2018 it will be 15
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>>127914114
>>127914231
>>127914378
That has to be an error or something?
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>>127910212
$15 Canadian=$11 US.

In other words, Leafland SJW's didn't even bother coming up with their own bumper sticker slogan. They just stole it from the Burgerland SJW's.

Fucking retards.
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Cuckdeau will literally promise anything to get re-elected

>Muh weed
>Muh $15
>Muh UBI
>Muh free tuition

Ontario is already the most indebted sub-national in the world and now we're rolling out more FREE SHIT programs. My advice? Buy PMs, crypto, short CAD and the banks.
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>>127912666
Alberta should have passed years ago, when corps were desperate for labour. The economy would have diversified and less oil dependent.
Instead they pushed work visa programs and now we swamped with filipino virtual slaves doing all the low cost work.
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>>127914378
this is in fucking nunavut where they have to fucking FLY IN ALL THEIR FOOD u twat, shit is expensive in Alaska too but atleast there is industry/infrastructure and working white people not just alcoholic nunavuts who some go hunting.

In comparison to Alaska, from google:
"How much does it cost for a gallon of milk in Alaska?
We entered Hanson's, a local grocery store, and found that, yes, it was. While the processed foods were priced roughly the same as in Anchorage, others were much worse. A single bell pepper cost $2.99, milk was $6 a gallon, and a honeydew melon was $14.Sep 6, 2013"
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>currently make $15 an hour as a low level lab tech
>mfw burger flippers and barristas will make as much as me without ever needing to go into STEM
>mfw I fell for the STEM meme anyway
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>>127915096

fuck man another reason to short the CAD, shorting because of oil already, and your upcoming housing crash will be fun also

man i thought europe was in for a ride but you and australia are up first ;)
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>Housing market is shit
>raising minimum wage to drive out small buisnesses
>weak and ineffective leader


Canada is in for one hell of a collapse
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>>127910212
Here's the thing.

if you raise the pay to $15, where the fuck is that cash coming from?

If you make businesses shill out that $15, guess what they do? they move to a third world country just like what happened in the majority of first world countries.

An asian will work for $1 a day, and the tax to import is lower than the cost to pay that fucking tax.

Even if the pay is that high some some, nobody is going to have a fucking low-tier job and crime rates, homelessness and other shit increase.

The economy will get larger for a time and it'll look like a good move short-term, but long term this causes absolute unhindered irreversable chaos, and this man would be responsible for all of this.

protip, don't let greedy landwhales and feminists write your fucking laws for you, because they're all fucking denser than a rock.

King cuck.
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>>127914378
Where is this?
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This is perfect.

Lets convince Blacks to move to Canada!!!!
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>>127912336
kek 10/10
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>>127915059
nah it's the prices in Nunavut. barren wasteland
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>>127910212
Minimum wages in Norway:

Minimum wage per hour:
For skilled workers: NOK 193.60. (22.8 USD)
For unskilled without industry experience: NOK 174,00. (20.6 USD)
For unskilled with at least one years industry experience: NOK 181.50. (21.4 USD)


Why the gap Canada?
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>>127915355
come to america, i see openings for lab techs all over. with a little experience you will make some nice money
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>>127915816
>Cost of loaf of Herringbread: NOK 450.71
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>>127915816
but don't you pay godawful taxes?
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>>127914476
KEK!
Leafs are so fucked. I'd be irate if I were you...
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>>127916320
We do. But we still have plenty of money to waste anyway. I pay 36% taxes, i pay a shitload of money to the city just for living, i pay 25% VAT on everything i buy, i pay 700 usd to my government yearly just for owning a fucking TV, and so forth. you'd be surprised.

But there is still plenty of money to spend at the end of the day. and life is still good, couldn't have it any other way.
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>>127916859
I pay 44% taxes and pay 15%hst on everything I buy.
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>>127915403
>EBT
>SUV

Kek
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>>127913704
I'm successfully self employed, and feel the same way as you, brother.
These bottomfeeders are only making life for people with a decent set of skills easier.
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>>127917074
do you pay a shitload to your city too? for things like owning a property, using sewer systems, power grids, waste containers, and whatever they can jam down your throat. we pay this to the city, because they own it all.

it's just getting out of control here in norway, up like 70% over the last 6 years i believe. and we pay that yearly, and it's completely out of control.
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>>127912666
its pathetic how inept our government is at managing our economy. For years the Federal government was relying on taxation of Alberta during the oil boom, you guys were literally funding the entire countries gibmes, and after that went to shit the gubmerne panicked, now they think minimum wage increases are going to solve the problems. fuck this country sucks
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I bet the plan is raise it over 5 years?

lol if it's such a good idea why not do it all at once?
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>>127910212
investing in Canadian automation companies today, also any major industry in canada will leave therefore us based industry will see a boost as well.

thanks leafs
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>>127915309
Cabbage is probably really cheap, though. They produce the largest cabbages in the world. Seafood wouldn't be too bad, either. Fishing is a huge market for them.
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>>127910212
Fucking r-selecting liberal fags needing government to gibs them everything.
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>>127910212
how much is that in real money?
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>>127916259
one liter milk is 2 dollars
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>>127910780
>Second place wins the "election"
>Federal minimum wage is $7.25
Land of the "free".

LOL is all I've got to say!
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>>127916043
whites are banned from immigrating though
how could we STEM people get in when poojeet and his 30 extended family members are on the fast track?
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>>127919741
>Second place wins the "election"
>Second place
>wins
autist detected
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>>127918770
15 CAD per hour by 2019. It's going up like 2.50 in six months. It's fucking crazy. People in Toronto already have trouble finding a steady 40 hours a week of employment and anywhere outside the GTA is going to fucking fall apart with a 15 dollar minimum wage.

People are just going to work under the table or be chronically unemployed. Wynne is waging war against her own fucking province.
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>>127920054
and the best part
>liberals are probably going to win again because of all the nonwhites and brainwashed leftists
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>>127920942
Didn't the PC's just speak favourably about a carbon tax?
I want off this fucking ride.
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Canada's future
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>>127921285
strap in frind
it never
ever
ends
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>>127921911
>1911
Stop tempting me, Anon. I don't have that much dosh right now and I still need to buy myself an SKS and spam can.
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>>127910212
I doesn't matter. You won't be able to get those jobs unless you are a foreigner, or have a vagina, or pretend to like a drag queen.
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>>127910212
"Universal basic income" and refugees are steps toward land confiscation.

The Top 0.1% are literally trying to take over the world. I say 0.01% instead of (((them))) for the benefit new, wide-eyed lurkers.

The plan is obvious. Nudge the Muslims to kill everyone else then kill the Muslims.
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>>127915096
I have been puting my money into bitcoin. I do some trading but keep it minimal. It's amazing watching my measely savings grow...If I just left it in the bank it would be losing value from inflation and devaluation of the CAD. Can't wait for the crash when Canadians start pumping my shitcoins because they desperately want to save their money.
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>>127912336
This Greek is ok lel
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>>127910212
>Canada raising minimum wage to $15
Ontario != Canada


fucking faggot.
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>>127914476
>Getting eventual raise
>Pissed because others will get it too

Fag
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>>127910212
Good
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>>127910212

That's what they said when the automobile came to replace the horse and buggy. They horsy guys were furious.
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>>127915816
Because Canadians don't care or think much about new immigrant service sector laborers.

Multiculturalism is just an front for a occupational segregation.
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Its simple, its like Obamacare, its designed to stop small businesses from growing.

There is a certain point that your business can't grow anymore, for Obamacare that number is 49 staff.

This is more simple, it prevents grass roots startups and stops existing grass root businesses growing.

This gives a massive advantage to corporate who already pay above the minimum wage and who offer investment for small businesses to grow - that way owning part of the business.

Its more badly thought through virtue signalling that supports globalists. This will only create a larger working class.
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Ask a software engineer working to automate you out of a job anything
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>>127918933
Any major industry was already employing people above a 15$ wage.

Fuck the whole service sector economy and any other industry dependent on low paid mass immigration.
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>>127915403
The amount of Blacks that have resettled in my city this year to escape the GTA's real estate bubble is mind-boggling.
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>>127922480
If i buy 100$ worth of bitcoins a week am i making a good investment?
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>>127910212
This is just Ontario you fucking pajeet
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>>127914476
If you believe your employer is telling you the truth I have a bridge to sell you
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>>127915355
>tests samples of blood shit and piss all day long
>thinks this is worth more than making coffee
kys
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>>127923966
You can't automate a construction worker
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>>127910212
I hope he's ready to destroy small businesses
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>>127924812
Uh, yes you can. Are you stupid?
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>>127924812

Not with that attitude.
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>>127924399
yes
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>>127924781

There's more than just testing bodily fluids.
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>>127925021
Good luck with that
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>>127913831
Source?
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>>127919741
>Federal
>meaning no state can set it lower than that
>Texas is one of the cheapest states and has been over $8.50 minimum for at least 5 years
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>>127925188
Don't cry too hard when you get replaced, cuck.
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>>127914114
That's in Nunavut. I know a guy who got a job there making 120grand a year to run a small department store. He had to sign a 3 year contract. It's a frozen desert.
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>>127910212
take seattle with you
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>>127914476
You obviously have no skills.
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>>127925546
desu the northern provinces seem comfy as hell
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>>127915377
>Who pays for it?
>They move

Yea that and the ones who dont move pass it off to the customer.
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>>127922571
>greek

Dumbass Malaysians.
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>>127910468
>Businesses forced to pay shit workers more.
>Shit workers pay more in taxes.
>Government wins.

>Businesses fire shit workers to downsize.
>Shit workers demand more gibs.
>Vote Liberal for them sweet gibs.

Makes perfect sense.
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>>127910562
It's $10.50 in my state which is $14.17 CAD
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>>127910562
where I live only McDonalds pays below $10/hr
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>>127910212
they shoulda just put the UBI in place now. we're getting a carbon tax so they could have given that money to the citizenry. Dumbasses.

Not an Ontarian so it doesn't affect me. TBF, my more than min-wage job is probably much more comfy than working at Tim's so I can't really complain.
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>>127910212
i'm thinking you should be worrying about your president and what he has been doing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLdEYw3ginA
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>>127917074
Fellow Nova Scotian eh?
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>>127910212
>>127910468

Well in the UK min wage is $13 Canadian, it's only £1 more, most people make more than the min wage here, we have small businesses here and they run fine.

Thing is raising the min wage helps no one, prices will just go up to meet the change, there will be some exceptions to the rule, mostly at the beginning during when people keep their prices to stay beat competition but in the end, it's worthless.
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>>127910212
>Each times someone on /pol/ says that Canada is getting basic income
>It's only in certain parts of Ontario

>Each times someone on /pol/ says that Canada is raising it's minimum wager to 15$
>It's only in Ontario

>Each time someone on /pol/ points out on how degenerated and how SJW Canada is
>They are pointing out GTA (Ontario) exemples
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>>127926979
Ontario and quebec politically control canada. Theres been lots of literature about it.

Now that they are both have nots, thus goes the country.
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>A strong currency makes a country's exports more expensive, hurting that nation's trade competitiveness.
>A weak currency makes imports more expensive, boosting domestic inflation.
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>>127926403
I'm not even white but we seriously need some ethnic cleansing
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>>127926603
>UBI enacted in first world nations
>3rd world nations who didn't work their nations remotely up to par to be paid the same as everyone else regardless of what do.. can't think of a more blatant global commie attempt just of the top of my head.

a) it wouldn't work because at some level the situation is determined by effort. There's no reasonable way that a bunch of africans having 10 kids on UN food aid is just as valuable as 10 kids of others who actually live in a society where they know to grow their own food. That's racist though. You bet it is. It's also true unlike your bullshit. I'm not going to pay for this. Whatever is there is produced manufactured or created or so and so on by someone else, there's nothing that just falls off the tree for free, would be nice if that was the case, but i'm not that stupid. If inferior populations want to get things for free, they can go fuck themselves and start working for attaining it for their own communities. I'm not going to sell my ancestors hard labour to you for nothing. They would crawl out of the grave and piss on me if i attempted it.

Also it's a global communist initiative. Which only the most naive can deny.

pic related about karl marx
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>>127910212
It's fucking Norm MacDonald
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>>127915096
Its not Cuckdeau, it's Kuckleen Whyner
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All politics aside: this is suicide - just makes the cost of living sky rocket. Left coast in the US learned this the hard way.
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>>127913831
>It's just Ontario, and probably BC if the NDP/Green coalition takes power

Its happening in Alberta already, we are at 12.50 minimum wage, and it is going to be at 15.00 before the NDP are out. The shitty thing is that the NDP know they wont get elected a second time, so they are trying to spend as much as they can before jumping ship, leaving the Conservatives to clean up after them.
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>>127910212
Is that 15 Canadian dollars? Finally, you guys will catch up to America's minimum wage.
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>>127927653
The inflation of the west coast is artificial. Things are worth more there due to the prestige of simply being on the west coast.
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>>127925021
Explain? I work construction and I guarantee you that you can't automate plumbing, electrical, framing, drywalling, deck/fence building, etc. So explain yourself.
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>>127910212
I think its just our government full on admitting they don't understand economics
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>>127914009
>Alberta
>Culture
???
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>>127925833
If you consider being trapped in a blizzard all the time with nothing but drunk natives and poor internet connection and nothing to do but get dry k, then it's comfy, yes.
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>>127928103
metis girls are hot shit tho
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>>127927601
we already do this with education to show how you can do this for yourself more than enough with our contributions to it. That should be all that is necessary that this is given for free. That you come to us and expect that you sit on your ass and have us diminish ourselves for someone who did nothing to attain any decent society is not acceptable by any reasonable moral reasoning. Take these things and use them for yourselves to create a better way for you and your people.
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>>127912666
>Maritimes is dead weight
Are you retarded?
Better port opportunity than New York to trade with Europe.
Fishing is strong.
Lots of water (Natural border, never dehydrate)

All inland areas are deadweight desu. What do you provide for us besides "Muh oil"? Ontario is cucking us and sending OUR workers out to your shitty province.
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Raising minimum wage is fine if you also cap profit margin. Otherwise, the prices will shift in order for large business owners to retain their current obscene profits.
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>>127910212

This is amazing news!! Increased inflation and then a 2 year recession. Lol. Sweet...
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>>127910212

>leafs
>LEAFS
You leafs really need to do something about your cucked mess of a country before its too late
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THIS IS NOT ONLY ONTARIO

ALBERTA IS GETTING 15 AN HOUR TOO

Gradually until goal is reached in 2019
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>>127928718
As someone who has a decent sense of government finances over there let you tell me they are way past the dead weight stage.

It`s no coincidence that they are the poorest, most backwards parts of canada while also being the whitest.
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>>127910212
Fine with me. I much prefer entering my order into a screen than talking to some shitskin temporary foreign worker who can't speak english
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>>127919334
Like, US dollars? Jesus Christ, 1 gallon for 8 USD? Fuck me, the cost of living must be triple the US.
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mr. trudeau, he needs to go. along with his helicopter family rides to the ishmaeli muslim leaders estate. And everything else this tard represents. perhaps there will once again be a sense of semblance in canada. Send this canuck on his way.. if you don't you're dumber than you're even allowed to be by your own margins. Stop being so fucking kind, that's what kills you.. people take advantage of it.
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>>127929531
he`s not going to go. conservatives elected a leader expressly because they expect to lose. he is the safe `hold your ground`pick.
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>>127910468

>it's over for small business

you mean it isn't already over? most truly small businesses are run and staffed by family members. minimum wage law has never applied to owners or their families.

what it will actually kill is shitty chains and franchise storefronts. good riddance. we don't need a subway and a tim horton's every 3 blocks.
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>>127910212
>What do browsers on /pol/ think of this?
I couldn't give a fuck, since I don't work by the hour. Prices of food and gas and hydro are already skyrocketing, the Ontario governments debts are on par with the greeks. Despite all this the libtards are going to run a 'basic income' trial. Jacking up the minimum wage will just fuck over small business (not that most cities aren't stuck with just a wallmart anyway). If you have any gov checks cash them quick, the party of gibs has been paid for on credit for years now.
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>>127928950
The maritime provinces are more like paper-weight than dead weight. We have so much potential, but all that potential is wasted on the capital and the western provinces.
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>>127910212
Pull the trigger, Trudeau. Just do it.
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>>127927946
The only way to automate many trades is with a sufficiently advanced AI and a humanoid robot that doesn't suck ass. Which means they will be some of the last jobs to be automated.

>>127928005
No government does. But the guy who promises gibs always gets votes from the poor and economically illiterate, and they tend to be in the majority.

Also, it's up to provinces to set the minimum wage, not the federal government.
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>>127930296
they don't have potential, they have debt, noncompetitive subsidized economies, and a fucktarded electorate as a natural result of all the ambitious people leaving for the last 100-200 yrs.
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>>127923277
why is it good?
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>>127930296
it's the epitomy of the left it's really like r/k development model that explains so much about conservative vs liberal politics. r is innovative highly intelligent, low birthrates compared to r with high incubation periods, they work hard create things.. many k's and a few r's thing's are great for both, then a fountain of wealth is attained, in comes the r's, funding other r's becomes the objective.. there's now so much stuff that why can't we share it with EVERYONE.. like rabbits.. there's enough grass why not include more rabbits.. rabbits don't produce ANY k value or build up a storage for future days.. they're just there to spend.. conservative vs liberal/leftist policies.. conservatives tighten things up gets people to work in comes the liberals and leftists fairies "didn't you hear the news, you can have 10 kids without even have to work, the government pays for it.. it's brilliant! only it's draining the ressources the k's created. When the ressources run out the r's resort to communism to hunt down the remaining k's and confiscate their wealth.. and then it ofcourse all falls apart because they realize they themselves can't sustain the demand they have created. and you get venezuela where that ideology has claimed yet another victim. Add immigration to that and it just gets from bad to a nightmare. Because atleast homogenous societies of r's can kind of get behind a certain way, when you don't even have that and you're all a bunch of retards riding off k's dick, and the till runs dry.. utter chaos and anarchy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V06JBpW6O7I&spfreload=10
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>>127926715
PEI senpai
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>>127932264
*k is innovative high intelligence high incubation period fewer in numbers. Highly productive highly intelligent, innovative, high mathematics and analysis etc. and HIGHLY INDEPENDENT. Often recruits r's to do manual and repetitive tasks.

r strategy.. have as many as you can cause we're stupid and NOT independent. and let's hope a few of us survive. we survive in a hive or lead by a K.

When k has produced enough ressources, the r mentality then tries to take over politics to go back to their old ways, and the k tries to hold that at bay. so it doesn't destabilize everything.
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>>127917741
I end up paying something like 55 percent of my income in taxes every year.
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>>127910212
no its not, canada is either 1) preventing anyone who is not worth $15/hr from getting employment or 2) inflating their money supply so that $15/hr is worth the same a $7/hr
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>>127917741
About 60% of my revenue leaves in taxes in a form or another.
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>>127932925
In recent years we have forgotten that arrangement that always was the case in where we fit into our role according to our traits if we show differently we fit into other roles.. it's gotten so far as to mental illness where perhaps you're not really a man or a woman perhaps you're not a gender at all, perhaps if you believe in your mind that you're a spaceship going to planet pop tart that makes it real. No you're a fucking fat bitch.. But ofcourse this delusion makes you think that some people who you likewise don't know shit about because why learn when you can "pretend to be" whatever you want, what they are like, so they're just the same or they can be just the same as you if you just transplant them from one place and place them at your place "immigration".. But no, it doesn't function like that. at all ofcourse.
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>>127933588
And ofcourse eventually reality collides with the imagination or wishful thinking. In a very rough way. and you are reminded about how nature and biology operates. and how things are different from other things https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdvnJZsCzzY&spfreload=10
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>>127928067
Don't they have rodeos and shit?
Like the Calgary stampede ???
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>>127913831
>>127914687
BC fag here. God I hope those commies are too retarded to get anything done. Political deadlock really is BC's only hope considering the most right party we have is the libs. I have a job on a farm for 15$ dollery doos right now, and I'd like to not become a minimum wage worker overnight.

Speaking of becoming a minimum wage worker overnight, whats the left's response to people who already make 15$, or a little over, and will be come a minimum wage worker if they have their way? I imagine it's something along the lines of "fuck you whitey".
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>>127934584
I'm surprised the chinese ruling class has allowed this.,
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>>127910212
I'm ok with it and I hope they do it in America, minimum jobs need to be automated and this might increase the rate at which it happens. The idiots at McDonald's have fucked my order up too many damn times. Fuck them.
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>>127933915
Without structure without discipline without an order of things nothing exists, it must be attained through doing well, it's not given simply because. How can you reward someone for doing nothing as awell as someone who works their ass off? yet this is the precise argument between the left and the right that has various permutations.. sometimes when accumulated enough of a buffer we can allow the left to experiment in better ways, but when they have extended themselves too much, it's time for the pragmatists to take the wheel. It's ebb and flow, cause and effect.. it's two polar opposites, those who build and those who spend what is built, the right and the left.. An entire lifetime of effort can be lost if the left is allowed to spend for their ideologies, but at the same time it is a dance, at some times the right is necessary at sometimes the left is necessary. but always tempered. But if the left doesn't let the right do its thing when it needs to .. the left is fucked because the right knows how to take care of themselves but the left doesn't and might all drown in a puddle of water in comparison.. but we all need eachother for civilization to survive.

When you DON'T have the cycle from the right to the left that's what you call authoritarian regimes. When you don't have the cycle from the left to the right you have the cycle from communism that is incredibly destructive aswell because it is too much r too much demand, they try to confiscate farmers wealth claiming the farmers were burgoise.. the others didn't know how to be farmers.. millions starved because of their incompetence. What happens when communism occurs.

Objectively the best is to stay slightly right of the cycle. But each part then is altered by the kids.. why? because the kids rebel against their parents.. so whatever their parents were they want to rebel to be different, thus push in the other direction. Thinking ofcourse at every turn that they invented everything new.
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>>127919741
It depends on the states.

Meaning no state can legally pay lower.

My communist state's minimum wage is something like 11.50 and they want it to change to 15.
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>>127935781
>The idiots at McDonald's have fucked my order up too many damn times.
Niggers spit in your food if they see you're white.
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>>127910212
1) It is temporary relief for long term problems. People will complain soon enough about not being able to afford anything because

2) We will pay for it one way or another. Minimum wage workers earn minimum wage because they are not worth more. The question will be how we will pay. It could be that more minimum wage jobs get replaced by robots or an increase in goods and services. Since we are a globalist economy and outsourcing is both cheap and easy.

Honestly, if they wanted to fix affordability in Canada they would go after and fix our foreigner problems. Tax the hell out of foreigners abusing our housing market. This is to get them to leave the market voluntarily dropping housing to the point that people can afford houses again. Clamp down on work visas and make damn sure that their is no responsible domestic labour option for the ones that remain. Erect trade barriers so that our economy is never dragged down to the standard of the lowest economy. Those three things would actually revive the middle class a lot more than increasing the minimum wage. However that would involve nationalism and the (((elites))) can't have us doing that.
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>>127910212
Seattle is 15 an hour and small businesses are closing in droves. These guys are just fucking themselves.
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>>127936058
One of The most descriptive statement that describes the r and the left which eventually associates with r which is why they have such a penchant for communities not doing well is this. "it's all well and good till you run out of somebody elses money". draining the ressources the k's have provided and buffered up through delayed gratification and many other things and making many sacrifices to elevate the standard of living. through breeding and doing little else but bickering about how you should have the same as others whilst doing nothing to attain it. They just if unchecked lower it to the floor because it's something about the value of something is never worth something to a person unless they themselves attain it, and THEN they might gain the responsibility to utilize it appropriately. Many things are like that. Untill they understand what that means they will consistantly abuse it and act irresponsibly.
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>>127915395
Probably somewhere in Qikiqtaaluk.
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It's always about greed to some not doing what needs to be done. it's setting yourself apart from that and doing what is necessary for the betterment of the whole. But the betterment of the whole is not giving everyone what they want, that would never work. On the contrary. Giving people who need to do understand this what they want is doing them a disservice, because there is a difference between what someone wants and what someone needs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj_wyw6Xrq4
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>>127914636
you fucking idiot, see the logo in the bottom?? it's PHOTOSHOP
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>>127936290
>Erect trade barriers so that our economy is never dragged down to the standard of the lowest economy.
This won't result in prosperity. Our own consumers foot the bill for our dairy protectionism, for example. This results in a higher short-run standard of living for dairy farmers (than in a competitive market), to be sure, but not so much for everyone else.
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>>127910212

Looks like we will have to start building a wall on the northern border as well.
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$15 canadian dollars per hour? That's probably less than minimum wage in a lot of US states.
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>>127922794
>live in rural Manitoba
>work my ass off for $14/hr
>food costs ~50% more here because of shipping
>now everyone in ontario who isn't being paid under the table is making more than me

I should jump ship to another province.
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>>127927412

So what your saying is that money inherently is designed to inflate and then crash.
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>>127939648
>That's probably less than minimum wage in a lot of US states
The exchange rate today was USD/CAD 1.35, historically this isn't all that low, but it's low enough to keep what's left of our export industry intact...for now
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>>127940041
(((Yes.)))
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>>127910212
>What do browsers on /pol/ think of this?
I think it will be GREAT for the leaf economy. But why are guys being such a bunch of jews? You should have went with a $25 mandatory minimum wage. How are you suppose to buy avocado toast on $15 an hour?
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>Canada
Last time I checked minimum wage was the jurisdiction of each province you fucking mongoloid
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Fucking leaves
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>>127912666
trips of truth
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>>127940933
yeah this is only in ontario
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so by 2019, a private in Ontario will make a little over minimum wage, damn i love this country
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>>127910780
In my state, it's $8.50 I think, but go into the city and its $10
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>>127910212
>What do browsers on /pol/ think of this?
I think it's time for all of Detroit's nogs to move to Windsor.
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>>127940933

Yes for everyone commenting on this it was clickbait for non canadians
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>>127939903
isn't housing really cheap in Manitoba? I remember talking to some friends that used to live there and they said they bought a newer 3000sqft home for like $110k in a rural area
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>>127943029
It's cheap because it's cold as fuck and you're likely to have a chug break into your house to drink your mouthwash.
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>>127943901
sure i wouldn't want to live in Manitoba but i was just mentioning the price of real estate since he was complaining about food prices and my point was that I'd happily pay double for my food if it meant I could buy a nice big house for 100k, where I live near vancouver a house would cost me like 800k+ for something that would cost 150k in Manitoba
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>>127944202
Rent for now, buy after the market crashes. You'll be able to buy a home for pennies on the dollar.
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>>127910468
I guess they shouldn't have gone into such a risky field of work. Small business owners should do something more productive with their lives.
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>>127944331
>took this advice for 8 years and saw house prices almost double
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>>127946865
Canadian banks are now selling bonds with negative returns. It's happening within the next couple years.
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>>127930579
Fine you win, skill trade. You're industry is untouchable, and I'll do you job for 12/h under the table because it's such a stable career choice. So will everyone else who is out of work.
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>>127932264
yes, republicans truly are special snowflakes.
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>>127910589
When canada sends its people they're not sending their best. They're sending shitposters and liberals and some i assume are good leafs.
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>>127948559
The bag of milk just got a gallon bigger.
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Feels good to live in Saskatchewan. No carbon tax, min wage based upon facts not feelings.
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>>127932925
>see that pic
>don't believe it so look it up
>mfw it's true
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>>127926698
Jesus christ and they say Trumps a retard
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>>127932925
jesus fuck i didn't think your pic was true then i jewgled it and apparently its right.

da fuq
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>>127926377
Says the Liberian.
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