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PAGANISM GENERAL

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Paganism General

Sick of Europeans larping as Ancient Israelites? Sick of the Aryan Race being neutered? Sick of your own race pacified by the Holy Jew, having their legends, lore, tales, replaced? Sick of having to turn the other cheek? Join this group.

inb4

>Muh form of Judaism is better than yours
>Not all kikes
>Jesus was a blonde, blue-eyed Aryan
>Crypto-judaism is Aryan
>Europe was worse than Africa before Christianity
>Not all Christians
>Jews used to be good
>Jews aren't the Yahweh's chosen folk, Protestant Anglo-Saxons are
>Europeans are the lost 12 tribes of Israel!
>Deus Gevalt
>Jews are based
>Rabbi Yeshua(Jesus) was a white nationalist like us
>The Yahweh of Torah is completely different than the Yahweh of the new testament, ignore the old testament goy it's totally irrelevant
>Bible gave a moral code to Europeans
>Europe was built by Christianity not white folk
>Christianity is totally different than Islam it doesn't matter that they were both made by Semitics
>Its totally ridiculous to larp as Pagan, true white nationalists larp as Jews
>Christianity made Europe great ignore the dark ages
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FAQ:
>Question: Why do you want everyone to be Norse pagan?


Answer: First of all, it isn't Norse, it is Germanic. Norse is the northern variety of the Germanic legend which was preserved the most. Secondly, you should embrace the path of your forebears.
If you're Slavic, revere the Slavic Gods, if you are a Celt, take up the path of Taranis and Brigid, if you are Germanic, become a follower of Wotan, if you are Occitanian, Spanish, Italian, become a disciple of Jupiter. If you are one of the few Aryan Hellenes left, hear the call of Dionysos.


>Question: If paganism is so uniting why do they all worshiping different gods?


Answer: The Aryan folk used to be one united Folk, with one language, religion, and culture. The Aryans spread out, became isolated from each other, and developed all the types of paganism you see today. (Celtic, Germanic, Hellenic etc.)The differences in the gods are cultural and in name only for the most part,
for example, the Thunderer, the God of the Worker, is called Thunor or þórr by the Germanics, and the Slavic folk know Him by Perun or Perkūnas, the Celts call Him Taranis, etc. They are they same exact deities, the myths, and legends about Him may change from folk to folk, but it is the same core. There has never been a conflict among
pagans in Europe for religious difference. "Oh Perun has a bigger cock then Thor" it simply doesn't happen.
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>Question: Didn't the pagan gods require human sacrifice?


Answer: There is no Aryan God that takes the sacrifice of Humans. It was considered unheard of and outrageous then just as it is now. It's important not to mix up the Aryan religion with other religions such as the Mesopotamian,
Mesoamerican deities many of which are Ettin/Ettins which should not be worshiped. This is important to mention since Yahweh the deity of the Jews, Christians, and Muslims is a
A Semitic deity that does require sacrifice to him, one of the more famous of these is circumcision(Genital Mutilation) which is supposed to represent a blood covenant with Yahweh.


>Question: What are Ettin/Ettins?


Answer: Ettins are deities who are either neutral or bad that should not be worshiped by anyone. Gods can take a physical appearance in the Mortal Realm, on Earth. The Ettins used to be able to do the same, in the dark ages and exercised full power over the Earth. But long ago, before mortals populated Earth, the Gods Wôþanaz, þuraz and Fraujaz cast the darkness away from Earth, into the Abyss of the Void, and the Ettins were never able to take true physical form on Earth again.
However, they can influence the world through the manipulation of Mortals, and the manipulation of Nature. God, as a word, means something that is Good. God means a deity that is GOOD. Ettins are not always good, and some are explicitly evil.
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>Question: If you believe in multiple deities and gods then where does Yahweh fit in?


Answer: The Jews are the chosen folk of the deity Yahweh, also known as Jehovah, or "God." He an Ettin of Greed, Temptation, and Degeneracy, and is also the Supreme God of the Jews. He is able to indirectly influence the world through the Jewish folk, through the Degeneracy they push, through the Greed that they channel. Every time you are a degenerate, you channel the force of Yahweh. Every time you expose yourself to Pornography, you channel Yahweh. Yahweh is an Ettin, one of the most evil. (see Hebrew depictions of Yahweh.) He should NEVER be revered. The Hebrews revered many deities but are ultimately Henotheists, meaning they worship only one God, the Yahweh Force. To get a sense of the religious foundation of the Jew, look at the early worship of other Semitic deities, such as Moloch, who would take newborn babies being burned alive as offerings.

>Question: I thought that Jesus wasn't a jew but a Christian?


Answer: Jesus was a mortal Jewish man who lived around 2000 years ago. He was a pretender who faked being the Messiah, due to the delusions and falsehoods brought about by his mother, Mary. It is likely he was the bastard child of some Jew or Roman soldier. The Bible was written as Torah but retooled for Goyim to control Goyim. The Bible was the early guideline for what the Jews wanted Goyim to behave. Remember that Christianity became a thing when the Romans genocided the Jews and destroyed their temple. Christianity was a stepping stone to degeneracy, it was proto-bolshevism, and it was created that way intentionally.
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>Question: You pagans make fun of Christianity for cuckoldry but Mary was a virgin and the baby was given divinely how would you explain that?


Answer: Mary was likely sleeping around with men other than Joesph and when she got impregnated by one of them instead of receiving the typical punishment of death she claimed that her pregnancy was a divine event.
Through this, she managed to avoid punishment typical of that area and stayed with Joesph to raise his wife's son.


>Question: Which gods should I worship, I am from England but I don't know what gods I should worship, the Celtic or Germanic gods?

Answer: England was a very mongrelized area in terms of subraces of Aryans. Over the centuries, it came to inhabit Celts, Romans, Anglo-Saxons, Danes, Normans, etc. Largely, however, the genetic pool of England remains Celtic. The vast majority of Englishmen are likely mostly Celtic. The English are however culturally Germanic. If you live in Wales, Cornwall, Devon, Scotland, the Isle of Man, and Ireland, then we recommend you embrace the Celtic folkways. In the end, however, do not get too caught up in it, as they all share they same root.
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>Question: Which gods should I worship if I am from France?


Answer: It is somewhat similar to England. If you live in Occitania, revere the Roman/Latin gods. If you live in Brittany, definitely revere the Celtic gods. If you live outside of those two regions, in Gallia, you are likely also Celtic, unless you can trace back your ancestry to Franks, in which case embrace Germanic. In the end, however, do not get too caught up in it, as they all share they same root.


>Question: Which gods should I worship if I am from the former Yugoslavia?


Answer: The information about Illyria is very poor and biased. However, you have a wide choice to choose from, including Slavic, Hellenic, and Roman. In the end, however, do not get too caught up in it, as they all share they same root
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>Question: Which gods should I worship if I am from Romania?


Answer: Romanians should revere the Roman Gods. In the end, however, do not get too caught up in it, as they all share they same root.


>Question: Which gods should I worship if I am from Hungary?


Answer: Do not embrace Tengri, because it is an Asiatic religion. Tengri, along with Finnish and Estonian paganism are NOT Aryan religions. Hungarians are mostly Slavic and Germanic genetically. Embrace that which you feel closest to. In the end, however, do not get too caught up in it, as they all share they same root.


>Question: Which gods should I worship if I am from Finland and/or Estonia?


Answer: Do remember that Finnish (and Estonian) paganism is not an ARYAN religion, though it shares many of its attributes due to long exposure to Aryan folks. Estonians can embrace Romuva, (Baltic Paganism) or Slavic paganism. The Finns, especially on the coast, can embrace Germanic paganism, aswell as Romuva and Slavic paganism. In the end, however, do not get too caught up in it, as they all share they same root.
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>Question: Which gods should I worship if I am Baltic?


Answer: Look into Romuva, also called Baltic Paganism. Slavic paganism can also be an option. In the end, however, do not get too caught up in it, as they all share they same root.


>Question: I am a mongrelized American but I am completely white 1/6 German, French, Ukrainian, Hellenic, Finnish etc with no African or Mexican admixture so which gods should I worship.


Answer: Choose the ancestry you most identify with as the guideline.
for what religion you are going to follow, so if you most identify with your Norwegian side you should worship the Germanic gods, or if you most identify with your Hellenic side you should worship the Hellenic gods. Another choice is to revere the Gods in the ancient Aryan way, such as Dyeus Pater and Perkwunos and Pria etc.
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COMMON MISCONCEPTIONS AND SUBVERSION TACTICS:

Unwashed Pagans Meme: Christians often use this meme that Pagans didn't wash themselves. (note, they conveniently forget the Hellenes and the Romans...) However, this is entirely false. The Germanics would wash themselves in the river on a weekly basis. Saturday is still called "Washing Day" in a lot of Germanic rivers. Early Christians, following the philosophy of Augustine, lobbied to shut down Bath houses because they saw them as a vain, unnecessary, and unchristian tradition that was too "worldly". This practice of being against hygiene led to a large number of plagues across Europe, in particular, urban cities such as Rome and Konstantinpoli. The Christians in England would also often make fun of invading Danes for "washing themselves so much."


Óðinn drinks Cum Meme: Anti-Pagans also often spam this image macro in Pagan threads, which claims that "Óðinn drank the semen ejaculated by the hanged men" and that Óðinn "gained arcane knowledge by swallowing semen," and that he had "nothing to lose from feminization" because he was a "magic deity". Now, it's important to note that this information was not written with ANY credible sources. It's also important to note that this comes from the book Construction of Homosexuality, by David F. (((Greenberg))). If you don't see what is wrong with that, you don't belong here.
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Paganism is Atheistic Meme: Christians and lite-pagans claim that the Gods are just representations or metaphors. This is not true whatsoever, and the notion is heretical. The Gods are beings who created the world and control the natural world through their processes. The Aryan Race was created directly by the Gods. The Gods guide our fates with an invisible hand.
Pagans are divisive meme: When pagans claim that Christianity is divisive because of its many religious wars, all across Europe, Christians will try to say that wars happened because of Paganism. This is not true. There were wars between Pagan folks, such as the Gallic Wars, Germanic Wars, Alexander the Great, etc. But none of these were religious wars, these were economic, imperialistic, and happened because of the vanity of the Kings. They were never called in the name of religion, as Europeans understood the cultural relations of the Aryan religions.
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Oi Ukko Ylijumala,
Pilvi hattaroin pitäjä,
Tules tänne tarvitessa,
Käy tänne kututtaissa!
Pah' on olla pakkuloissa,
Kiero olla kipuloissa.
Puun löyly, kivosen lämmin,
Mäne läpi kuumista kivistä,
Palavista poateroista,
Läpi saunan sammalista,
Läpi kylyn kynnyksistä,
Emon tuoman ruumihista!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8UfdehDqm4
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Turn the other cheek is mistranslated/misinterpreted meme: This is not true whatsoever. There are MANY (too many to list) verses in the Bible that are anti-European and anti-Aryan.
>When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. (Leviticus 19:33-34)
>Do not oppress a foreigner; you yourselves know how it feels to be foreigners, because you were foreigners in Egypt. (Exodus 23:9)
>There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. (Galatians 3:28)


Whites are descendants of the 12 tribes of Israel meme: This has no evidence to support this claim whatsoever. If you like to imagine that your ancestors were Semitic and not Aryan, it's clear where your interests lie.
Places to start learning:

Varg Paganism playlist: (take him with a grain of salt, neanderthal meme, we wuz old europeans, etc.) https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLV1Xd_c5-wta8HSKFx15qdV5L-pm5XvZA

Collection of readings, memes, etc. https://mega.nz/#F!fIchVA7Y!owKwAgGKq9pgXrbVOnkeag!7dEXGAAI

Pagan group https://join.skype.com/lJqhBlcVO964
Pagan discord code: w68tguT

Google Ásatrú board
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Hail Evropa
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>>127911038
Wecome brother, hail Wothanz
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>>127910714
Hail brother
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>>127911413
I think it would be cool to learn about Finnish Paganism
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>>127911636
Come home white man
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>>127911667
was meant for >>127910714
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>>127910130
Any good intro to Celtic religion literature?
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>>127911667
Though Finnish paganism is heavily influenced by Aryan paganism its not an Aryan religion
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>>127910130
Hail Woden brothers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xojr6DKkwkA
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>>127911840
Yes, the mega folder I posted in the info has a good selection of Celtic literature, check it out
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Annapas ajan kulua, päivän mennä, toisen tulla,
taas minua tarvitahan, katsotahan, kaivatahan
uuen sammon saattajaksi, uuen soiton suorijaksi,
uuen kuun kulettajaksi, uuen päivän päästäjäksi,
kun ei kuuta, aurinkoa eikä ilmaista iloa.

>>127911413
Hail !
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Repent, infidels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_BjPy19bYs

1 minute in the BTFO'ing starts
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What are you talking about? There were human sacrifices in indo-european paganism.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrTRj4U1xXE

They may have striped our temples and our culture but they will never break our spirit, the old gods are our blood and they will always be their for us
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>>127912387
Christian Nationalism is such an oxymoron. It's an international religion, ANYONE can be a christian
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Hello LARPers, how are the rituals going? oh wait, they were all destroyed by the big bad christian conquerers
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>>127912545
>What are you talking about? There were human sacrifices in aryan paganism.
This is factually inaccurate, I talked about it up in the introduction posts
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>>127910130
Paganism is LARPing. I don't know how anyone can take it seriously.
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>>127912387
I agree.

Heretics are gathering here since a few nights already.

Picture of the leader.
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>>127912634
That is a concept that Christians never seem to understand, anyone can be christian and they worship a god whos chosen people is the jews(eternal enemy of the aryan race) while the pagan gods only answer to us
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>>127912809
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>>127911667
Sure. I'm really just getting into it myself, cant really expand on anything special yet.

>Useful PDF in English for Finnish mythology and paganism.
http://www.taivaannaula.org/notes.pdf

>Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_mythology
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_mythology#Heroes.2C_gods_and_spirits
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estonian_mythology#Estonian_mythological_and_literary_mythological_beings.2C_deities_and_legendary_heroes
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>>127910130
kys
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>>127912764
You're obviously a shill trying to discredit Paganism with you lies.
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>>127912984
How can you take Paganism seriously?
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Never quite understood this war between Pagans and Christians.
As a Christian, I think we should be able to live side by side and the two cultures could fit each other and learn from each other.
Also fight together against the extra-European menace
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>>127912914
That is from a culture that the Aryans annihiliated and Perkwunos personally intervened to destroy them.
We are the the decendants of the Aryan gods
According to the Rig Veda, the leader of the Aryan invasion was one Indra, and his role in “slaying the Dasyus” (the Negroids in India) is prominent in the Rig Veda:

"Thou, Indra, art the destroyer of all the cities, the slayer of the Dasyus, the prosperer of man, the lord of the sky."
- RgV. VIII 87.6
The Rig Veda goes on to use the word “black” in a number of instances to describe the Dasyu:

"Indra, the slayer of Vrittra, the destroyer of cities, has scattered the Dasyu (hosts) sprang from a black womb." RgV. II 20.6
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Just gonna leave this here. Great times, right?
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>>127912914
Stay mad

Hail Cernunnos
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>>127913036
Stop worshiping a kike and kike diety
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>>127913264
>As a Christian, I think we should be able to live side by side
lol, how on earth can you think this as a christian? What is the first commandment? You're larping just as hard as they are
>>127912981
Again..Christianity is a non-racial religion...
>>127912764
Source?
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>>127910130

Prove that Odin exists. I'll wait.
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>>127913212
How can you take european culture, people, and deities seriously? Move to you holy land with the rest of you Semitic religion if you don't care for the interest of Europe
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Appreciate the effort OP. But honestly I am a heathen, paying no heed to the stories that some wish others to believe. Stories are just stories and only living men can really achieve glory.
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>>127913923
that's not how it works...
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>>127913923
The pagans gods are the creators of the Aryan people, Odin is the father of the Germanic people, most of the Germanic tribe have him as the founder. He was recorded often wandering nature, he appeared to other people in different forms. He appeared to Germanics typically in this form
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>>127910176
Are Poles Germanic or Slavic? They speak slavic language but look like Germans
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>>127913924
I don't have a religion, Paganism has been dead for nearly 1000 years. Christianity and Christian countries have contributed more than your religion. Just look at Varg, he supports primitivism.
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>>127914323
So he was just a homeless wanderer having muh kids everywhere ?
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>>127914367
Slavic Paganism would work for them
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>>127913402
Enjoying the suffering of Europeans not willing to convert to a middle eastern religion, thanks for stating where you interests are
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>>127914207
lol
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>>127913811
1st commandmant doesn't mean "massacre any other beliefs"
If it did, we would be the most based religion and Odin larpers would be laying under the ground together with muzzies and kikes, how'd you like that faggot?
Be glad we at least tolerate your religion
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>>127914367
Slavic, but at the end of the day we all come from the same Aryan tribe and at the end of the day it has no meaning we all worship the same gods whether you call him Perun or Thunor, Odin or Svarog
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>>127914453
>I don't have a religion, Paganism has been dead for nearly 1000 years. Crypto-judaism and Crypto-jew countries have contributed more than your religion. Just look at Varg, he supports primitivism.
>Varg is the only voice of paganism?

Take him with a grain of salt. Not having a religion is degenerate and leaves a lot of the development of degeneracy. Religion is a huge extension of culture and shouldn't being overlooked if you love you, people, you should embrace the ways of your forebears. Don't forget that Rome and Greece were pagan, Christianity didn't contribute to technological advancement.
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>>127914207

OP is the one making the positive claim that Odin exists, therefore the burden of proof is on him.

Still waiting...
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>>127914694
>There is no middle ground between genocide and tolerance
Wew lad
Also work on your reading comprehension
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>>127914694
Christian massacre pagans on mass. Europe should finally rid itself of this semitic death cult
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>>127915183
I already replied to you check above
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>>127915133
Yeah, maybe, but I just can't take Paganism seriously. Sorry, Leafbro.
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>>127912701
>No, Hitler was Christian
>No, Hitler was pagan
>No, Hitler was athiest
boring
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>>127914323

Ok, did Odin create the bushmen people of the south African deserts? Did Loki do that?
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>>127914534
Why did they surrender then, if it was so important to them?
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>>127913036
>plep
Christcucks can't even spell "pleb" correctly, probably because it's a "pagan" word
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>>127915422
No, the Aryan gods hate non-aryan races. Loki is an ettin but is not a deity of the Bushmen
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>>127915284
>Waahhhh these Christians are too brutal! Let me post a badass pagan pic even though pagans got BTFO for literally millennia over and over again
>Implying 9/10 pagans aren't virgins who will die with no heir
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>>127914323
>Odin is the father of the Germanic people
not Tuisco?
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>>127915624
They didn't they were massacred when they refused, 6000 beheaded by Charlamagne, women, men, and children.
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>>127915624
Christians killed those who didn't "surrender," and even still adapted pagan customs for their Arab religion
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>>127915740
>Tuisco
>>127915740
Tiwaz is the Skyfather, Odin is the one who personally founded many of the Germanic tribes
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>Never heard of Jesus
>Go to hell for an eternity for not worshipping a Semitic deity

Makes you think, eh?
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>>127916151
Sounds like a typically Semitic scare tactic, leave our barbaric anti-European religion and you will burn in hell for eternity. Not a surprise considering it's a desert religion
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>>127913036
We wuz pagans far longer than we wuz christians.
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>>127916341
Welcome brother,
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>>127915673

Pfft whatever.

You need to realize that the "pagan" folk religions, and the modern monotheistic religions of today, are simply metaphorical representations of ineffable concepts to human beings. Concepts such as creation myths, hero myths, myths of the end-of-the-world, are attempts by early man to explain the universe and his place in it using a language steeped in metaphorical stories.

t. Joseph Campbell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sANjeKKb0QU
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>>127916106
Yet they claim descent from TUISCO!
What about the Swedes claiming descent from Freyr?
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Are there any other native americans here?
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>>127916577
That's fine, odin was the founder of most of the germanic tribes
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>>127910130
is it okay that i practice Judaism
i mean my ancestors preferred it for thousands of years
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>>127910130
Thanks for this thread brother
Hail

Heres a bunch of esoteric books:

mega:#F!bENznApJ!zoLo1-76Rpraq_5ztpZ3SA

And here is a very interesting essay about Wotan written by Carl Jung right before WW2, his impression of the rise of paganism within the German people:

https://volkischpaganism.com/2015/12/15/dr-carl-gustav-jung-the-wotan-essay/
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>>127916657
>>127916752
Shoo shoo jews
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>>127916877
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIeLW8OPomg
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>>127913552
2 old druids drunk on mead.

Whatever you say forest punks; your leader hold a snek in his hand.

The snek again.
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>>127915909
Well if they were right, then why didn't they win?

>>127915971
Well that sounds like a Pagan problem and not a Jesus problem to me.

Next time, fight better.
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>>127916877
Someone's got to spread the world of the Gods of European. Thanks for the insight. Hail our people and gods, hail victory!!!!!
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>>127912728
Other than using a dick tone, this is a legitimate point.
As far as I know, there are no original liturgical or doctrinal manuscripts.

> Q: is Paganism "fake until you make" contact with the deity somehow, through, I guess, ceremonial magic rituals?
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I don't want to LARP, you need Jesus.
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>>127917216
>> Q: is Paganism "fake until you make" contact with the deity somehow, through, I guess, ceremonial magic rituals?
No the gods are real being guiding the fate of the Aryan race with an invisible hand, yet they can appear in many forms and if Europeans are lucky their true form the earth. It might take practice to feel a strong connection with the gods but that's is with anything.
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>>127916657
Bought this today, how good is it?
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>>127917310
>>127917310
Yeah were larping? FFS you are larping as ancient Israelites and worshiping a jew and jewish diety
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Been thanking Pomona, Flora, and Mater Terra for the wonderful garden growth so far. It reminds me of the old saying: As men pour, so do the gods.

I'm glad to see others on /pol/ returning to the gods that protected their people for so long. It's inspiring.
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>>127917047
Assuming that the pro-European religion would win just because it's good. Germany win ww2 does it mean it was wrong about the Jewish threat to Europe? I think not
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8ch net/asatru/res/2.html
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>>127917654
And?
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>>127917493
>It might take practice to feel a strong connection with the gods but that's is with anything.

By doing what exactly? Praying? Using the deity name as a mantra?
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>>127917770
Hail brother, Hail Wothanz
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>>127917770
>pic
top kek
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>>127917916
This is a common deception tactic that I debunk up in the introduction
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>>127917906
>Pro-European
But they weren't. They didn't even have a concept of "Europe" as a unified thing yet.

>Germany (nigh incomprehensible crap)
If what I can translate from your babbling is that Germany was right even though they lost, you're still wrong.
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>>127918128
You didn't debunk anything. People have nothing to do besides LARPING as naked pagans dancing in around a bonfire and acting degenerate.
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>>127917310
The church is larping that a bunch of kikes were actually anglo saxon.. biggest joke of the planet.
yes goy, we are all one people under gods loving gaze.. we should be inclusive to all even our LGBTQQQX++ brothers
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>>127918145
A lot more than European was Aryan 3000 years ago

When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. (Leviticus 19:33-34)
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>>127910130

>not understanding that Europe was never greater than she was during the Ghibbeline Middle Ages
>not realizing that C*atholics and Protestant cucks are too weak and effeminate to actually be called Christian
>not realizing that Adolf Hitler himself said he admired Jesus for grabbing a whip and BTFOing the Jews in the temple
>unintentionally dividing whites by excluding the biggest pro-white sector of all, the religious right

Nice
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>>127918297
I guess larping as a crusader is acceptable instead?
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>>127910130
Thus spoke the Thunderer:

"Long have I been with you, my people.
Long have I been your protector - guardian.
I have given you strength and spirit to forge on during the harshest of times and in the most severe of circumstances.

Even when you turned your backs on me to follow a weak martyr-god so that you might 'inherit the earth', I watched over you and granted my strength to you.
Because you are my people, I did not turn my back on you.

When the barbarians and desert riders were at your gates it was I that stood alongside you. And together we repelled that force.

But of late your conduct has been such that I can no longer recognize you as the folk who once stood so proud in battle. You no longer respect any god - nor do you seem to respect yourselves.

Your men act as women and cowards - weeping with fear and shame. Too afraid have you become [to] stand up for yourselves that, once again, barbarians are at your gates but you do nothing. You allow your women to be raped and kill your own children because it is the easy path.

I no longer know you and you no longer know yourselves.

I am calling to you, Men of the West, to tell you to remember me. Know that I am The Oak. I am The Mountain. I am The Thunder and The Lightning - I am The Storm. I make that which is barren fruitful and I punish those that would do evil. When you come to know me, you may begin to remember yourselves.

I am Thunor and you were once my people. One day, you may be my people once again."
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>>127918297
>>>127918128(You)
Yes I did you not read the post I made and just scroll all the way to the bottom
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>>127918453
No one except a few silly nationalist is going around dressing as a crusader and yelling DEUS VULT.
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>>127912764
im pagan lad but thats a lie, the celts were very fond of using wickermen to sacrifice. Some were also headhunters.
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>>127918618
Larping as an Ancient Israelite is still better than people larping their ancestors?
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>>127918574
Why do you pagancucks insist that everyone who doesn't agree with you is a christian? I'm starting to think you're the shills sent to divide people.
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Help me figure shit out lads.

I've been agnostic but believed in some kind of higher being since I got out of my edgy preteen atheist phase. I'm fascinated by the history of my people and because of that Pagan faith is really interesting to me. Can you guys point me to some reading I can do on it to understand what human's purpose is in these faiths?

Do the gods still watch the world or did they make it and more or less don't care?

Do the gods love and protect us in the same way Abrahamic gods do? (because that's what got me disillusioned with Catholicism when I was young)

I guess I just want a quick rundown of the faith in the way you can do with Christianity, for example. God makes the world, makes the first people, they fuck up and everyone since then has been making up for their fuck up. Then God sent down his son to Earth who gave up his life to save us. God loves and protects everyone and is all powerful. That sort of thing.

I'm half Irish and Half English if it helps, my English side are from the South-East and I'm pretty sure we have been for a long time.
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>>127918764
I don't see christians wearing kippah.
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>>127918795
Dividing people? I am not trying to unify with any one with who is anti european
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>>127917493
Cont'd..
What I mean is, virtually all genuine religion involves some form of (purportedly) sanctified and unbroken line of initiation - from killing your first boar, to baptism to abhisheka from a lineage holder. For example, the tantric deities of Vajrayana are real but their providence/energies/power etc not only involve a given set of practices, but such practices wont even work (or worse, will antagonize the deities or adjacent nature spirits etc) without first being given "empowerment" by the lineage holder.
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>>127918879
>he same way Abrahamic gods do? (because that's what got me disillusioned with Pedophileism when I was young)
Join the skype group, I'll help you out and explain
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>>127918544
Originally from /Asatru/, guy claimed it came to him while automatic writing after making a sacrifice to Thor, IIRC. So grain of salt.
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>>127918544
Give us strength based thunderer!
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>>127918879
Oh come on, you don't believe there is god for water, a god for war, a goddess for war and all of that bullshit? And no, they are not as caring as the abrahamic god, they were assholes, Prometheus was punished for giving fire to humans, and there is more than that.
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>>127911636
>whites are the true isrealites
kek i remember this one, its so funny everytime i hear someone say it
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>>127917977
Personally, yes. Praying in acknowledgment, respect, not asking for anything. Just stilling yourself and focusing on that deity's domain. For instance, a focus on protection and strength in the case of Mars Pater (Mars as protector of farmers). I often leave an offering of something I enjoy as thanks. An apricot, a piece of chocolate, play a piece of music. The connection builds over time. You find more courage, a desire to better yourself, perhaps a lucky break. Belief is reciporical. You believe in the gods, they aid you. Sometimes in very unexpected ways.
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>>127918737
The Roman used it as propaganda against the Celtics it's like WMD and Iraq it causes negative public opinions of them to help justify conquest. Human sacrifice is not an Aryan tradition
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>>127919101
He drinks cum.
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>>127918879
>Do the gods still watch the world or did they make it and more or less don't care?
>Do the gods love and protect us in the same way Abrahamic gods do? (because that's what got me disillusioned with Catholicism when I was young)

The Gods used to walk among us in the Golden age, but now degeneracy is rampant and the Aryan race has fallen into darkness. The Gods don't want to take part in degeneracy. Most people would choose degeneracy over the Gods anyway, so it's not like them coming down and showing themselves would help anything
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>>127919134
>Prometheus
He is not a god but an Ettin(evil diety) as I explained above, the Aryan gods love the aryan race
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>>127918544
Give me a superhuman feat and I'll bite.
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>>127919004
Why not explain it here? What's the point of a general if you are just going to use skype. Also with skype you can get doxxed
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DUES VAULTS...brothers
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>>127919269
>citation needed

Go pray to your jew god you pastanigger, you are a disgrace to your Roman ancestors!
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>>127910130

Hey, who created Odin?
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>>127919342
Oh yes he wanted to give fire to mankind, what an evil deity! He was supposed to be the creator of mankind in greek mythos but you have to even twist stories for your own agenda of course.
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>>127919269
>Written by Jew.
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>>127919218
lad I have been to digs where there are obvious signs of human sacrifice.
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>>127919336
That's ironic, since pagans were degenerates themselves.
>>127919524
I wouldn't like to be associated with such a decadent and corrupt empire.
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>>127919134
No I don't believe it, if I did I wouldn't be asking questions. Like I said I'm trying to understand the faith, my agnosticism has got me interested in researching lots of different faiths, I'm sitting the exams for a qualification in Islam and Christianity or some bullshit like that now purely because it interests me.

I also don't believe in the Abrahamic God, it makes 0 fucking sense, God loves us, God punishes us because we used our free will to defy him even though when he gave us free will he already knew we would defy him. That and the whole evil and suffering shit is what turns me away from it. The old Testament god makes more sense to me, it fucks everything up if you don't follow it but the world's gone to shit and I don't see any floods or Hellfire. No magic skyman makes more sense than another and a God of water at least doesn't contradict itself compared to Christian and even Muslim ideas of God
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>>127918381
>A lot more than European was Aryan 3000 years ago
Yeah that's what I've heard. Not sure I buy it, but if it makes you feel better you can believe it if you want!

>When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. (Leviticus 19:33-34)
Well, yeah. But that's kind of an oversimplification of the situation.
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>>127919698
>I-t's the jews
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>>127919702
Due to the nature of their system they "sacrificed" the criminals of the society, as a system of retribution.
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>>127910130
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>>127919887
>evangelicals
They are mocked by christians.
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>>127919336
So would you say it's an ethno-faith. Could a Black African follow European Paganism or is it the Jewish kind of deal of our God for our people.
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>>127919831
Oh, my bad, I forget how I shouldn't resent Jews for their leading role in the multiculturalism of Europe.
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>>127919887
What about the Thracians who sent their most honored tribesmen to the gods by sacrificing him in a spike pit?
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>>127919431
>>127918879
ok, the gods are real and they are the creators of the Aryan race, they guide our fates with an invisible hand and can appear on earth in physical from and if Europeans are lucky their true physical form. The Aryan gods only answer to the Aryan people and not the other races of the world, if a non aryan prays to the Aryan gods they will be ignored. The gods also banished the ettins(evil/neutral) of world so they can't come to earth in their true physical form as the gods can but they influence the earth indirectly, ex Yahweh and his chosen people the jews, currently were in the iron age or Kali yuga the age where sex is the center of life, people break vows, drugs and alcohol addiction is rampant, but eventually the gods will return to save the aryan race
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>>127919997
What does this have to do with the argument?
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>>127910565
>Question: I am a mongrelized American but I am completely white
what if you arent completely white? my grandpa was 1/8 native american
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>>127919989
>My version of Christendom is the right one
No one will take a christian practice seriously or be able to believe without doubts when there are so many conflicting aspects of everything about the religion.
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>>127918961
>What I mean is, virtually all genuine religion involves some form of (purportedly) sanctified and unbroken line of initiation - from killing your first boar, to baptism to abhisheka from a lineage holder. For example, the tantric deities of Vajrayana are real but their providence/energies/power etc not only involve a given set of practices, but such practices wont even work (or worse, will antagonize the deities or adjacent nature spirits etc) without first being given "empowerment" by the lineage holder.
No initiation is require, you just need to worship the Aryan gods. The only requirement is to be an Aryan
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>>127919184
Ah.
So in your experience it's faith/devition-driven and not transactional/contractual(?).
The two main analogous forms of such devotion/faith that I am aware of are Pure Land Buddhism (Amitabha) and Protestant Christianity ( which still technically requires baptism at the community level). In hinduism such traditions are preceded by initiation and involve specific mantras and offerings. Even Theravada has a refuge ceremony and the ongoing "taking refuge".
So, I guess the closest would be Pure Land Buddhism.
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>>127919993
My personal belief is that a person can only truly be called to the Gods of their blood. An African could certainly larp as a European "pagan", that doesn't make him one.
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>>127920110
Jews have been recorded nation wreckers, firstly doing so by subverting a nations culture and history in order to enable them to push their preferred views upon the nation they intend to destroy.
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>>127920251
Alright, thanks anon.
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>>127920160
Again I'm not christian, and you're the ones to talk.
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>>127919645
He's been there as long as the universe has been here as far as what the stories tell
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>>127920210
What is an Aryan? How does this uncuck us?
>no more we are all God's children
Which means we depose of egalitarianism? Not so fast. You've got some explaining to do. What if the cuckolds find some other reason to be cucks?
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History dump for pagans.

"A tide mill is a specialist type of water mill driven by tidal rise and fall. A dam with a sluice is created across a suitable tidal inlet, or a section of river estuary is made into a reservoir. As the tide comes in, it enters the mill pond through a one way gate, and this gate closes automatically when the tide begins to fall. When the tide is low enough, the stored water can be released to turn a water wheel. The earliest excavated tide mill, dating from 787, is the Nendrum Monastery mill on an island in Strangford Lough in Northern Ireland. Its millstones are 830mm in diameter and the horizontal wheel is estimated to have developed 7/8HP at its peak. Remains of an earlier mill dated at 619 were also found."
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>>127920338
You don't have to believe in a degenerate and backwards religion to bring a strong nation.
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>>127919993
No, negros can't follow the Aryan tradition.
>ethno-faith
yeah, something like that
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"In 1268 Roger Bacon made the earliest recorded comment on the use of lenses for optical purposes, but magnifying lenses inserted in frames were used for reading both in Europe and China at this time, and it is a matter of controversy whether the West learned from the East or vice versa. In Europe eyeglasses first appeared in Italy, their introduction being attributed to Alessandro di Spina of Florence. The first portrait to show eyeglasses is that of Hugh of Provence by Tommaso da Modena, painted in 1352. In 1480 Domenico Ghirlandaio painted St. Jerome at a desk from which dangled eyeglasses; as a result, St. Jerome became the patron saint of the spectacle-makers’ guild. The earliest glasses had convex lenses to aid farsightedness. A concave lens for myopia, or nearsightedness, is first evident in the portrait of Pope Leo X painted by Raphael in 1517."
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>>127920338
(((They))) are afraid of the Aryan spirit so they have to poison us in order to forget it.
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>>127918879
It depends on the deity. A god of war likes war. A god of the harvest like plentiful food. Some gods are more benefical to humans than others. Some are cruel, some are petty.

Polytheistic divinities have smaller areas they control, but far more power in those areas. Very simple example: A god of smithing is not the best to ask for help cooking but is probably a solid choice to help repair a car. A god of famine is not going to help you unless you bribe them to leave you alone.

The problem is, the old gods are starved for worship. The more faith in them the stronger they are. However, since so few believe in them they are more receptive/reactive to those who do. It's like hearing one person talk instead of a crowd shouting.
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>>127920483
Hence why I found the pushing of Christendom onto the European nations so laughable. As Nietzsche said, it is a slave religion that glorifies inferiority.
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"The origin of the all-mechanical escapement clock is unknown; the first such devices may have been invented and used in monasteries to toll a bell that called the monks to prayers. The first mechanical clocks to which clear references exist were large, weight-driven machines fitted into towers and known today as turret clocks. These early devices struck only the hours and did not have hands or a dial. The oldest surviving clock in England is that at Salisbury Cathedral, which dates from 1386. A clock erected at Rouen, France, in 1389 is still extant, and one built for Wells Cathedral in England is preserved in the Science Museum in London."
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Thanks for all the information so far anons. I'll join the Skype group when I get home from the gym to find out more.

Have any of you guys got some good books on the subject?

And do we know if Paganism in Europe is growing? I'd like to look into the reasons for it and what they base their beliefs off of considering how varied the faiths seem to be and how little of the culture and faith has been passed down through the generations or even writing.
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>>127919771
The Abrahamic gods have committed many acts of genocide and required the Jews to make a blood covenant to worship him(Blood unnatural ritual circumcision) and Christian symbolical are drinking the blood of Christ. Not to mention the many anti-European quotes and the fact that he was a jew.
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"In the 14th century the growth of maritime trade and the recognition that plague was introduced by ships returning from the Levant led to the adoption of quarantine in Venice. It was decreed that ships were to be isolated for a limited period to allow for the manifestation of the disease and to dissipate the infection brought by persons and goods. Originally the period was 30 days, trentina, but this was later extended to 40 days, quarantina. The choice of this period is said to be based on the period that Christ and Moses spent in isolation in the desert. In 1423 Venice set up its first lazaretto, or quarantine station, on an island near the city. The Venetian system became the model for other European countries and the basis for widespread quarantine control for several centuries"
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>>127920679
Yes but Nietzsche was a lunatic. I wouldn't put it as a role model.
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>>127912984
>Protestants aren't even real Christians

Bad meme, you as an American should know this. Protestants are most of the Christian population and they're always happy to rail the Catholics for being illegitimate idol worshippers.
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>>127920668
Alright, so it's a bit like Hinduism in the sense that you've got a god to represent more or less anything, whether it be good or bad. Don't fucking jump down my throat about Hinduism technically being monotheistic either if there's any lurking Indians around.
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>>127920592
The truth Christians don't want to realize because their soo afraid of the boogeyman of hell
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>>127920692
greece just recognized hellenic as an official religion.

iceland built a pagan temple.

Ireland got manannan's statue back.

not sure about europe as a whole.
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>>127920692
"Paganism" in Europe may be growing, but as all subversive techniques have shown, they have simply been drawn to a kiked up version of European Norwegian diety worship rather than true Nordic spirit.
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>>127920892
Hinduism was based on the Aryan religion but it became bastardized over time due to race mixing, but yeah when you can join the skype i'll be glad to help you out
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>>127910529
You know that we have our own gods, right? Not the roman gods.
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>>127920117
Your native heritage is negligible. Find your strongest European bloodline and look into their cultures mythos and Gods. Or default to Roman, since most Europeans have Roman ancestors, IIRC.
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>>127921096
Don't worship Asiatic gods please
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>>127921020
What is this picture trying to prove anon? The sparticist movement got crushed and their leaders ended up dead. I never get this picture and I see it on here a lot.
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>>127920907
Nah, we just think you're very silly people who worship a graveyard full of exorcised demons rather than the Living God who ground them into dust.
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>>127921153
What is an Aryan?
How does being pagan make anything better?
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>>127912146
link??
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>>127920117
If you look white and most of your forebears are white your fine, just don't racemix yourself
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>>127920808
>Nietzsche was a lunatic
Under what grounds? He was the man to establish the philosophical principle of an Ubermensch into a utilizable term. He is one of the most hopeful European philosophers there ever was.
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In hoc signo vinces
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>>127921191
An example of Jewish led leftist political revolutions.
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>>127921229
https://mega.nz/#F!fIchVA7Y!owKwAgGKq9pgXrbVOnkeag!7dEXGAAI
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>>127921257
And he ended up insane, with his sister writing stuff for him.
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>>127920811
Hi triggered prottiecuck. Protestantism is literally Judaism 2.0 with neither legitimacy, Apostolic authority or tradition.
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>>127921346
that was fast, thanks
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>>127921355
Yet for his time he was quite the philosophical savant while lucid.
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>>127921212
>all those who don't worship Jesus worship Satan and muh demons
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>>127921226
An aryan, that is the decendants of proto-europeans around the black sea 5000 years ago theirs a great video on it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ283N_ZdKY
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>>127920231
It's a bit of both. The original question was "how to connect to the gods." In which case, prayer/meditation/listening.

If I desperately need help with something I will ask and make a sacrifice. More contractual. Bear in mind sacrifice means to make something sacred, not to kill a cat or whatever. What makes a sacrifice significant depends on the individual.

But those times are few and far between. I imagine a god would get annoyed at "oh please let this light change" versus "help me find a way to keep my house."
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>>127921257
>under
ON the grounds he had a debilitating mental disease and was a hyper autist who thought science was a monolithic endeavor because he bought into the Empiricist mysticism that plagued 19th century Europe.
He wasn't hopeful at all. The man hated everything, he was a true "philosopher"
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>>127910130
Why are you a norse pagan if you are canadian tho?
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>>127921212
Call the gods which founded the Aryan people as demons, thanks for clarifying where you stand
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>>127917916

If Raven Kaldera represents all Heathens then this faggot represents all Christians.
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>>127920493
Redpill me on Tyr.
I've only seen one ancient depiction of this god and it's underwhelming.
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>>127910130

I'm Alberto Barbosa. Am I aryan? Isn't aryan just a term for pure indo-Europeans? Am I allowed to be a Pagan? Isn't paganism based on ancestor worship and ancient traditions? I'm not sure Barbosaland even has any pagan traditions anymore.
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>>127921649
I couldn't care less about it, it doesn't change the fact that you're all just a bunch of LARPERS with too much time to spend.
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>>127910130
HIS NAME WAS SETH RICH

SHAREBLUE IS SLIDING

AWAN BROTHERS INVOLVED

WE WILL NOT BECOME REDDIT FAGGOTS
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>>127921638
I am not a Germanic pagan, but I do some of the Germanic traditions such as runes, I am a Slavic for the most part despite my german last name
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>>127921603
The man was a propagator of the Ubermensch, the idea that man can become more than he is at his base. The Ubermensch is the most hopeful human idea put into thought, and a true example of European will to greatness. Abrahamic religion demean the Human, while the true European way is to accept Humans and strive for greatness.
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>>127910752

Don't post Varg. If you want this to have any credibility, don't listen to him.

His hatred of Christians is retarded.
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>>127910130
What the fuck is this shitty LARP-ing? Listening to Varg has scrambled your tiny little brain.
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>>127921708
>Alberto Barbosa
The Aryan gods don't listen to non aryans so you'd just be wasting your time
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>>127921603
>he had a debilitating mental disease

Nietzsche's insanity was caused by tertiary syphilis and only happened towards the end of his life. It has zero relevance to his philosophy, despite the attempts to use it to discredit him.
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>>127921817
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>>127921751
>No argument.
Don't just give up now, come on and fight for your beliefs. Prove you are better, prove you are right.
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>>127921708
I'm sure you was Kangs. With that flag, Cultus Deorum Romanum.
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>>127920436

Did Odin carve the mountains of the world in one instance, or were they created by a process of millions of years of continental drifting and plate tectonic uplift? Just curious.
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Can I be Pagan if I have dark hair and eyes?
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>>127910130
>Sick of Europeans larping as Ancient Israelites
t. North American

> Sick of your own race pacified by the Holy Jew, having their legends, lore, tales, replaced?
Walt Disney was the first one to replace anything.
>Sick of having to turn the other cheek?
It's about growing a thicker skin so that you won't mind small slights. It's a necessary attribute of a leader.
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>>127921708
>>127922035

Just to clarify, I'm only in Spain for the next month, I'm not LARPing as Portuguese. I meant "Alberto Barbosa" as in "I'm from Portugal".

Fuck seriously? So as a Portuguese I'm not Aryan? Guess there's no point in trying anymore. I don't know what to do as a godless person.
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>>127921751
>Criticizing people as LARPers when you believe literally in knocked up virgins and corpses coming back to life.
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>>127915284
>white people kill white people, so we must kill white people
Sounds like a good plan, Moshe.
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>>127921982

that sjw-reeking tv series sucks monkey balls
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>>127921680
Here's an old depiction of Tyr. He appeared differently to many Aryan cultures, as did the other Gods. What's to redpill? You can look up his story for yourself. Where is that depiction from?
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>>127921751
I don't really understand the larpers meme.
Christians and pagans are both performing ancient rituals, it's just that the pagan rituals are from much older sources.
Do you feel that all religions are larping or is there something special about pagans that makes our faith seem less genuine?
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>>127921212

More like a graveyard of extinct folk gods.

https://youtu.be/dmSircOd1w4?t=64
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Fwiw I recommend reading Reality by Kingsley for getting a sense of a possible template or prototype for Helenistic/Hermetic contemplative theory and practice. He advocates and describes the practice of "incubation" - essentially hesychasm or extended silence and immobility in darkness wherein one may receive guidance and blessings from the deity. Yes this practice was incorporated into Eastern Orthodox Christianity but by way of Hermeticism and Helenism nit by Judaism.

All his books kick ass actually.

https://www.amazon.com/Reality-Peter-Kingsley/dp/1890350095/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8
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אבו פייסל נחאש

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=I1uhjBDBiP4
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>>127921680
He is the sky father know to ancient Aryans as the skyfather or Dyeus Pitar, he's quite a significant god but the germanics and slavs stop worshiping him as the supreme diety while the roman keep him that way check out Jupiter and Zeus
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>>127921212
>the Living God who ground them into dust
along with everything else
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>>127922182
Elaborate.

Many (natural) Swedes have dark hair and eyes as well.
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>>127921751
Why do you hate Paganism so much anon? I don't get it, these guys aren't hurting you or burning your Church alive. What makes your God real and their's LARPing, I don't think I'm an expert in theological debates at all but I just want to understand why you can't accept that they have a different belief from you and it could be equally valid since we have no evidence for the existence or nonexistence of any higher being.
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>>127922182
>>127922182
uhh if you look white and not swarthy
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>>127922253
You're fine, as long as you're not a pajeet, nigger or arab.. Again, research the Roman gods, Nova Roma is a good source, I think.
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>>127922371
Thanks for the depiction, I haven't seen that one before.
I can't find a source for the one I posted other than wikipedia which is pretty unfortunate.
I'm a fan of Tyr so I just want to talk about him.
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>>127922253
Lol when you google the guy you mention a black guy pops up if that's you name that's fine. You have to be an aryan doesn't matter if what nationality you are, ex aryan man from afganistan
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>>127921554
Thanks for your thoughts bro. Peace.
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>>127921522
Yep.

>>127921644
>Actually believes this silly shit.

>>127922410
People didn't sacrifice their children to "folk gods". Some of them were real, and they were demons.

>>127922502
Talk shit, get hit.
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>>127922253
I'm almost positive the Iberians had a celtic culture at the height of the Celtic culture's spread. You for sure have some sort of Pagan beliefs even if it's a mixture of Celtic and Berber from before Christ and Muhammad. The old faiths of Iberia and the Moors were there before Abrahamic faiths and there must still be some evidence of them.
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>>127922356
It's not SJW, a fucking nigger was lynched, not to mention the scene with Stormare were he talks about Shadow's skin for like an hour.

>>127922376
Not really. Jesus was most likely real and even though he didn't do any of the supernatural shit that was said in the Bible, that's not really what was important. His teachings are the basis of Christianity, not if he made water into wine. Why the fuck would anyone believe in Odin? How does anyone with a right mind be able to do that in 21st century?
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>>127922547
Yep I am fairly white. Varg Vikernes claims that being white isn't enough and unless you also have blonde hair and blue eyes you can only be a lesser Pagan because you are genetically polluted and impure.
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>>127922282
>>127922527
I'm not christian, legit question, are you clinically retarded? I told you so many times. Pagans are degenerate, smelly creatures that act like niggers, dancing in the bonfire and commiting sacrifices and orgies, there is no order and stability. Paganism is long dead, I call you LARPERS because you are just people dressing in costumes with swords and shit, you're snowflakes looking for attention, you're deluded into thinking that paganism would magically bring the old europe.
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>>127921902
>Ubermensch
Marx had a similar idea for mean equally as idealistic and twice as accessible.
>hopeful
Not really, I haven't seen anyone making their own morals of late.
>European will to greatness
The what?
>Abrahamic
What's that? Oh the Covenant, not shared by Muslims and no longer with Jews.....
Don't be fucking stupid, say Christianity if you mean Christianity. Christianity upholds the individual as an individual, Nietzsche reduces you to an animal too big for the universe and paganism is reducing me to a man too small for the tribe.
>accept Humans
Christianity does accept humans, Catholicism specifically is the one that does this greatly.
Pagans like Varg (not like me) are unable to accept man as he is. They want to change him. I mean they accept his body, but not his mind nor his soul. If the Christians want to be Christians then so be it, are there not larger fish to fry?
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>>127922576

I want to do a 23andme since it's apparently the best test for your DNA to see if I have any non-european blood and therefore am not aryan, so I know if I should be a pagan or not.

Also, why worship the roman cults? Wouldn't that be cucky? There really aren't many proto-celtic lusitanian books of pieces of information though...

>>127922765

Oh it's just Alberto Barbosa is a meme/synonym for Portuguese people I thought maybe you'd know what it mean. An Aryan is an 100% Indo-European descendant, right?

>>127922860

There's barely any evidence or information on Lusitanian cults, unfortunately. I've checked. There isn't really a pagan PT movement as far as I'm aware. It's a shame. I guess the Portuguese do have Roman ancestry though. I don't really know how relevant Portugal was during those times however.
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>>127922990
Varg needs to be taken with a grain of salt(memes, neaderthals, etc) but he does put out a lot of good videos
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>>127923038
And I told you I'm not Pagan but you don't seem to care. Are you Atheist anon? Can you tell us your faith so we can work this out or are you just baiting?
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>>127922046
>It has zero relevance to his philosophy, despite the attempts to use it to discredit him.
prove it
>his philosophy
WHAT PHILOSOPHY?
>>127922120
What's the difference? Does it detract from the Mountains or Odin in any way?
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>>127923045
Check the mega I posted in the intro posts for more info on paganism, as long as you look Aryan(I.E european) your good nationality doesn't matter
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>>127922854
The picture you posted is a strong example for the beauty of Christianity, but isn't it curious how this beauty is only found in European Christianity?
Is Christianity the source for this beauty or is it the European people?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4UWykHAgEE
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>>127923219
I don't believe in anything, so yes I think I could be called atheist.
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>>127923219
>And I told you I'm not Pagan but you don't seem to care. Are you Atheist anon? Can you tell us your faith so we can work this out or are you just baiting?
He's baiting, just ignore him
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>>127923172
Do you think that the national heroes which were Christian should be disregarded?
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>>127923172
remove Varg from the forefront of Paganism
https://www.youtube.com/user/ThomasRowsell
Replace him with Based Survive the Jive
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>>127923405
Hail brother
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>>127923045
23 and Me is a scam, IIRC /pol/ found out they were putting nigger DNA in people to screw the test being used for that purpose.
As for why I recommended Roman, it's a good default, most Europeans have a Roman ancestor, plus I know absolutely nothing about pre Christian Spain.
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>>127923514
>>127923514
Nope, just Christianity.
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>>127923044
Marx was a hack who wanted every human to be on equal grounds. The Ubermensch is an idea owing to the natural understanding that some men are greater than others. It is an idea hopeful in this regard because it insinuates that Humanity (essentially the Europeans) will be able to overcome all it's trials and succeed in finding it's answers.

Nietszche knew the road to the truth would be hard and he said this, but he was far from pessimistic. His philosophy is about overcoming struggle. Christendom and by it's basis Abrahamic belief is simply too scared to point it's fervor toward the unknown of life.
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>>127923379
>Is Christianity the source for this beauty or is it the European people?
took the words out of my mouth
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>>127923583
Or Iberia in general for that matter, flag keeps messing me up. >>127923045
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>>127923379
>>127923379
It's Aryans, the pictures of god you know is based off the Dyeus Pitar and Odin this is how the Israelites depicted him as which was changed because it was soo disturbing
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>>127922900
>jesus's teachings are the basis of christianity
Yes, and he taught that the only method towards god was through him. He did not claim to be a buddha, he claimed to be god and that you should worship him.
Christianity is not a philosophy which can be removed from its supernatural base.
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>>127923468
>being this retarded
You go so far as accusing me of baiting because you get triggered by the people talking shit about paganism, you're pathetic LARPERS, seriously.
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>>127923374

I shouldn't post my face on /pol/ but gimme an honest "you can be a pagan" or "you can't be a pagan"

>>127923583

Fuck, is there any good, reputable website for figuring out what my genetic background is, then?
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>>127923559
heill ok sæll!
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>>127923939
I would take you more seriously if you dropped the Larpers meme
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>>127912701
Yes, Hitler was clearly right about this; but it is important to remember that paganism is a faith and not a political movement, and there's a reason why the "state and church" separation exists. In my opinion, paganism is a faith that should be practiced in a way similar to how buddhists and hindus practice theirs, and any political leader worth their salt should accomodate it as well as any other religions that large portions of their followers practice. Religious wars are for niggers. Always has been.

I also think the focus should not be "the jew", but the global elite, whomever they happen to be. There is a certain overlap, yes, but there is more to it then that.
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>>127923967
>I shouldn't post my face on /pol/ but gimme an honest "you can be a pagan" or "you can't be a pagan"
sure, check out ancestry.com, your tan and have dark hair but you should be fine
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>>127923045

>I want to do a 23andme

Good idea, give the Jew your full genetic record, and pay him for the privilege!

>An Aryan is an 100% Indo-European descendant, right?

Even King Hitler admitted that Germans were mixed with unmen. Don't worry too much about it so long as you're willing to strangle morocs.
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>>127924105
It's fedora 2.0
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>>127923967
just take a DNA test ;)
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>>127921251
actually im just gonna convert back to christcuckery, i already got jewed at birth too, and by the one drop rule im not white, so paganism is not for me. i wish these things werent true though, if they werent then maybe i would become a pagan.
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>>127923514
Should Jews also return to Canaanite Polytheism or are they iredeemable?
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>>127924252
see
>>127924174
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>>127923967
You're acceptable as a Roman or possibly Celtic, I'd not bother with germanics. The only way to be certain would be to research your genealogy in excruciating detail, I'm afraid.
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>>127923967
I wouldn't worry about it. I say you can be Pagan. Just don't dilute your bloodline and you'll be fine
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>>127923655
>overcome all it's trials and succeed in finding it's answers.
That's not at all what its about. It's about creating your own answers and seeking trials for their own sake. The best man to do this was a nigger.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78I9dTB9vqM
>Marx was a hack
>confirmed for not having read Marx
The main problem with Marx is his Utopia was closed to the Father who led the first Revolution against Ruthless Industrialism.
>road to truth
That's totally unNeitzsche like, truth isn't something discovered it's something made, created from within man.
This is also anti-pagan or at least not what pagans knew.
>his philosophy
WHAT PHILOSOPHY!?
>Abrahamic belief
what does this mean?
>too scared
Which is why they were the trailblazers?
>overcoming struggle
not enough room in the universe without the divine
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>>127923967
I like to use the old Spanish method of determining whiteness.
If you can see the blue in your veins, you must not be a Moor.
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>>127924105
Why? Because it triggers cucks like you who instead of focus on serious matters you act like kids by playing the vikings who worship Odin?
>>127924195
>muh edgy atheism
I'm not the one worshipping a long dead religion to look unique. You whine about the LARP meme but you use the fedora atheist meme.
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>>127924252
You got jew'd but you didn't have any control over that, if you look white your fine if not then stick to christianity.
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>>127924234

Is this place reputable? I just don't want to get scammed and ripped off. All I care about is accurately figuring out where my genetic background is from. I'd like to know if I'm fully European or not.

>>127924161

My dad has blue eyes. I'd be full Aryan tier if he didn't fucking marry my mom. I have ONE SINGLE grandfather from the South of Portugal and his genetics utterly cucked me.

>>127924471

I have very visible veins. I can even see them on my chest.
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>>127924234
>that sardinian
Well somebody had a fun vacation in the Mediterranean a few generations ago.
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>>127924252
>inb4 there are alot of black pagans.
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>>127924491
If you're not interested in becoming religious then your kinda just wasting your time here
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>>127924622
You're fine, just bleach you children then
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>>127924451
Marx didn't understand that Humans are not and never will be equal. Nietzsche understood that you need the great few to help humanity find it's own road in life so that it can uncover the truths of the universe.
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>>127924252
I was circumcised at birth (being a burger and all) but that didn't stop me from following our Aryan ways
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>>127924119
What's the point of being pagan if our leaders look out for others?
>>127924195
it's true tho, too many Vargs and Golden Ones, not enough https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C9yvEOT45I this guy types.
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>>127924770
Mocking LARPERS is a no no no apparently because you get offended.
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>>127924622
>he can see blue veins in his chest
And you doubt your whiteness?
I think the gods would be happy with you, feel free to join us.
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>>127924491
I'm not even religious you daft cunt.
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>you dishonor your ancestors by worshipping Triune God.
>doesn't realize that ancestors worshipped different "gods" from their indo European ancestors.
>doesn't realize that indo European ancestors worshipped different "gods" from their proto indo European ancestors.
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>>127923379
>Isn't it strange that the (art) of Christianity is only found in the only place where it existed for 1500 years?

No. That's actually pretty normal.

>Is Christianity the source for this beauty or is it the European people?
Christianity.
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>>127924703
Yeah non aryan pagans are idiots, you'd be worshiping gods who don't like you
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>>127924904
Calling everyone a larper is just as childish and unproductive as blurting out fedora quips on impulse.
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>>127924879
>Nietzsche understood that you need the great few to help humanity find it's own road in life so that it can uncover the truths of the universe.
That's the opposite of what Nietzsche said.
>Marx didn't understand
No, he understood it, he just knew that a doctrine of equality can have a positive basis and be as readily accepted as a doctrine of categorical hierarchy.
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>>127924942
And yet you defend them, you're a closet religious fag.
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>>127924678
Yeah I know right haha. Got quite surprised when I saw it myself.
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>>127924871

I heard that if you have blue eyes in your genetics, especially if it's only a generatin apart and you have children with someone with those similar features, there's a potential for bleaching and they'll revert back to having blue eyes. Hope it's true.

OK OP, I'm going to start studying Roman Paganism. Thank you.

>>127924934

Holy shit it's really gay to admit but that post got to me. I've been called a shitskin and a paki most of my life and to hear that and not be called a mexican is just heart warming for me.
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>>127924972
>The only place where it existed for 1500 years
>What is the middle east.
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>>127924945
>>doesn't realize that indo Aryan ancestors worshipped different "gods" from their aryan ancestors.
Not true, Aryan's have been worshiping the same gods since they were in the same tribe just different names and cultural tales, I explained this in the intro posts
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>>127924904
Stop larping as a Semite
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>>127925054
>calls me childish and unproductive
>worships a long dead religion for snowflakes
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>>127924972
Sure senpai, sure.
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>>127924972
What of Ethiopia? Ethiopia has a Christian history more ancient than most Scandinavian countries, yet Ethiopian art is underwhelming in comparison.
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>>127925123
My dad is dark skinned(serbian) with blue eyes, and I turned out as the whitest guy ever your fine just find a good woman and have lots of kids
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>>127924879
You haven't read Nietzsche or Marx so keep your mouth shut
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>>127925103
Did you read Nietzsche? Did you understand the universal basis as to what his doctrine implied? Do you really believe that Humans coming to terms with their paths is an end result rather than a stepping stone to something greater, something that Christianity was holding us back form?
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>>127925123
Nova Roma is a good resource for that, good luck m8.
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>>127925123
Love you, m8
One white man to another.
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>>127925106
>closet religious fag
Really pulling all the stops. I suppose I'm not allowed to play devils advocate anymore, could hurt someones feelings.
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Fucking pagan retard
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>>127925202
As I said, I'm not even religious. All the matter as well, the lifespan of a religion doesn't discredit it's validity as a societal tool.
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>>127925369
>his doctrine
WHAT DOCTRINE?
>Christianity was holding us back from
Christianity was the closest Man has ever gotten to God and you know it. Everyone in the thread knows it but Secularism killed it. Christianity is no longer an experience, Pagans are pursuing experience without meaning, Christians are pursuing meaning without experience.
Nietzsche said we'd have to become gods to absolve ourselves of this crime. If our gods (paganism) are merely greater men, how can we hope to overcome anything?
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>>127925502
Really, you're making me cry, could you please stop?
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>>127925202
Paganism isn't a religion of worship
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>>127925335
>Implying
I just am able to apply my higher order thinking skills. It's essential to esoteric philosophy.
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>>127925295

My dad sounds a lot like your dad. He's somewhat dark, with hair like mine, but eyes like the girl in your pic. My sister turned out whiter than me and with Green eyes and light brown hair.

I'm just glad that for once on /pol/ I don't get called a shitskin and whatnot. Thank you, you've made me feel much prouder of who I am man. Same goes to >>127925451
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>>127925636
Dancing around the fire and having orgies sure does resolve our problems in society.
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I only have two gods

'MURICA
MUH FREEDOMS
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>>127925636
>societal tool
Stop defending pagans, you will never be one and you will never relate to one.
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>>127924904
Well your mocking our ancestors and religion which is the native faith of the Aryan people so obvious you're going to offend people but were not going to chop your head off though or burn you at the steak. If you act like a degenerate well through you in bogs though
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>>127923855
Not really, Jesus never even implied he was god. He also never wanted anyone to worship him, but to follow his teachings which is entirely different. It's a bit different than "we wuz Thor n shiet" which is just plain and simple LARP-ing because it's pretty obvious they didn't exist at all. Furthermore whether you like it or not Christianity has been the basis of European identity since the great Roman Empire and it's the one thing that shaped European culture. I don't believe in anything supernatural, but Christianity is pretty much Europe.

But if you people want to worship a "culture"of stone carving and "runes" that's your problem. Just don't be mad when you get called out on it.
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LIBERTY VICTORIOUS
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>>127925702
>Pagans are pursuing experience without meaning
>Christians are pursuing meaning without experience
That sounds like it's supposed to be profound, but it's a little too vague for me to understand. Can you elaborate?
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>>127923461
Fair enough anon. That makes a lot more sense now. I'm also agnostic so I see where you're coming from.

Why don't you respect their right to practice their faith though? Just because it's old doesn't mean it's invalid. If it's based on the fact that you don't believe in God(s) then I'd argue that we can't prove nor disprove God(s) so there's really no point being like this about some anon's personal faith. Their belief is not harming you so why are you here?

>>127923468
That's what I'm thinking too but I could be wrong and figuring out where he's coming from helps me understand how to deal with this kind of thing next time. I'm also doing this as an excuse to avoid going to bed though.
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>>127914694
> Be glad we at least tolerate your religion
Yep. You're definitely a Christian, no doubt there
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For the Irish:
The Encyclopedia of Celtic Wisdom
By Caitlin and John Matthews
It's a work by a married couple that spent decades translating old fragments and piecing things back together. They do use the term Shaman but clarify on the first page that they are only using it as it is more familiar with the audiance than the garlic terms (which are also given on the first page).

For Italians:
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/List_of_Roman_deities
http://histmyst.org/festivals.html
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>>127925906
ancestors /=/ religion

Like I said, you don't have to believe in an old religion to glorify your past. You're the ones who act degenerate, pagans were always like that.
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>>127925812
(((Judeo-Christian))) values, im sure you've heard thoses words one too many times. Come home white man
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>>127925906
"Muh ancestors" get over the fact that Paganism is for LARPERS.
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>>127925702
Christianity is built on a basis of man submitting his will to God. It does not inspire greatness for the sake of your fellow men, it denotes it to God. The Pagan dieties were more powerful men, but that is not to say they did not have faults. They relied on us as we were to rely on them. We grew together, and in the end, the world we built would be fought for by the great men of the ages against the ilk of Humanity, and should we succeed we would inherit the earth to continue our legacy.
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>>127926105
Gaelic* terms
Note to Self: Don't type while cooking.
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>>127926060
Because I find them pathetic, they think that to be redpilled you have to believe in the old gods, you don't agree with them? You're a shill worshipping a kike.
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THERE IS NOT ONE GOD, THERE ARE MANY

MOHAMMED, JESUS, & ABRAHAM ARE FALSE PROPHETS
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>>127926121
>Like I said, you don't have to believe in an old religion to glorify your past. You're the ones who act degenerate, pagans were always like that.
>>127926121
>>127926143
This is absolutely not true, a few people role play as romans and viking and suddenly worshiping native gods of Europe is larping, yeah ok
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>>127926141

Monotheism is a religion for slaves.
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>>127925811
Just as well as allowing your society to be subjugated and demeaning your will is productive to a nation. Any matter, Orgies were frowned upon and fire was revered as an indicator of life, not some worship tool.
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>>127926525
Come home Abrahamic religions!!!
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>>127925130
Islam took over a long time ago.

>>127925234
>not an argument

>>127925289
>What is culture?
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DIOCLETIAN HAD THE RIGHT IDEA
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>>127926458
Why can't humans put faith in mankind instead?
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>>127925854
Have you no more decent arguments left? You are simply telling me to stop and producing a demoralizing statement. I do not care what pagans think of me, I am arguing for my own pleasure.
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>>127926207
Wtf is "paganism" can anyone explain it to me? What do you people believe in? Some thunder gods with hammers? A large snake that will swallow the whole world? What is "pagan" culture, what does it imply? I just don't know how anyone in the 21st century can believe in shit like "Valhalla". What does Odin teach you? What's the purpose of your "religion"?

I mean either you people are memeing or you're just batshit retarded like Varg is.
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>>127926587
Orgies were frowned? I'm pretty sure nordcucks and romans had a habit of doing orgies.
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>>127926681
Because the weak-minded feel the need to be subjugated, and believing in their own power destroys that subjugation.
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>>127926053
Secularism destroyed the meaning and experience of Christianity, in the wake of this we found Race becoming a defining ideal (National Socialism) they deposed the Church, Political theory becoming the defining ideal (Communism) they destroyed the Church. We got two wars out of this, a loss of respect for blood and what it is and what it means. How sacred blood is.
Christianity left a hole when it left. The meaning was gone, no one knows God anymore, everyone has faith everyone believes, but they don't really believe. They always claim plausible deniability "I could be wrong, but I believe it is true." Might as well say "This might not be shit, but then again it might be shit." it remains shit.
the experience is gone because people have become hyper social, industrialization makes it possible to reach peak achievement without suffering or trouble. Life is easy, suffering is a part of the Christian experience, it's an affirmation of life and an affirmation of the soul, when the soul grows it can discover more, souls grow through suffering.

Paganism is just experience, know one really believes in the gods like they used to and if they do they are archetypes, not real, just psychological phenomena.
Christians are pursuing meaning, God exists, they want to seek him, seek the truth, but they do not experience it. They do not suffer enough to grow their souls and gain the ability to understand and become aware of their suffering and it's relation to the divine.
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>>127926889
Wouldn't just following a strong leader for the country solve that?
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>>127926780
Explain to Pagans Christianity. It is just as fantastical.
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>>127926681
Religion is natural to mankind, its kinda like saying why do we have laws do you have faith in mankind. Yes, I do, especially the Aryan people but it doesn't mean it can't use guidance. Remeber religion is an extension of culture,
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>>127925920
I'm not mad for being called out on anything. I love my ancestors, simplicity and all. I even love my Christian ancestors, I just believe they were lied to. I don't hold any animosity towards my Christian ancestors unless they hurt Pagans.
As for you, I think you misunderstand Christianity and I say that as someone who used to obsess over Christianity. Whether you believe Jesus implied he was god or not, that is the position held by the church since it was founded. You might look at Jesus as a philosopher, but that's not how the vast majority of Christians see him. The Nicene Creed should be evidence for you.
And I don't mean to downplay Christianity's role in shaping Europe, but I do mean to say that it is not the greatest factor. The European people are what shaped Europe, with or without Christianity.
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>>127926866
Late era Christian Rome had a inclination to orgies, but on every other account of Pagan Rome or Nordic states you are incorrect.
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>>127926321
I'm agnostic, not Christian, not Pagan, not Muslim, Jewish, Tengri, Sikh or Hindu. I am not a shill.

I can't agree with them or disagree with them yet anon, I came here to understand modern Paganism so I can make that judgement when I'm better informed. I'll ask once again why you're so fixated on fucking with these guys though, I can't see any reason for it.

And thanks for more or less confirming yourself to be baiting here. If you're not, I'd recommend looking into mindfulness meditation to help you deal with your strange anger issues and fixation on fucking with religious people. You're doing what the 12 year old atheists do on youtube and making pointless arguments here, stop giving atheists a bad name mate and chill out, if you're really atheist look into Nihilism or Stoicism and realise that if everything is finite and there is nothing after life, then you should live life to the fullest and not worry yourself with what others do, a good starting point would be Meditations by Marcus Aurelius and then looking into the work of Epictetus. Good luck anon, I hope you become a less angry person and find something productive and something that you love to better spend your time on than this.
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>>127926780
>wat iz it

Personify an idea. Worship. Repeat.

Hate someone? Pray to hate. Love someone? Pray to love. Honor, envy, courage, rage, wisdom, etc. All can be worshipped.

The "one god" nonsense is what the weak minded turn to instead of thinking.
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>>127926983
It could work, but one would need an intelligent populace to keep from getting too out of hand.
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>>127926780
Have you not been reading any of this at all? It's about preserving our traditional Aryan ways, instead of being a faggot degenerate like the rest of the world. STOP WATCHING PORN
STOP WORSHIPPING JEWS
HONOUR YOUR ANCESTORS
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>>127927053
I'm just saying that we should try to believe in ourselves for once instead. I think wasting time asking yourself if a god exists or not is useless, there isn't gonna be an angel/valkyria helping you in life.
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>>127927290
Then get off this thread
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>>127919662
This, I have a question OP. What makes Satan/Prometheus evil?

Especially, why would they(he, whatever, Prometheus and Satan have a lot of parallels), the "adversary" to Yahweh, be an evil or neutral God?

Giving humanity a higher awareness seems completely altruistic. At his own expense, he gave us fire, knowledge, ambition, industry. Illuminated our sorry state of slavery and ignorance.

Maybe it's like the double edged sword; knowledge cuts both ways.
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>>127926207
>It does not inspire greatness for the sake of your fellow men
A greater love hath no man than this....
>denotes it to God
Denotes the meaning of glory to God? better than denoting it to glory for it's own sake.
>basis of man submitting
let me stop you there.
Christianity is based upon Man and God living together as family, a leader and a follower. One who is glorious and one who revels in it. Look at warriors, do they not reflect this relationship?
>they relied on us
No they didn't.
>grew together
How?
>inherit the earth
at what cost?

Paganism led up to a dying god who hung upon wood and the son of the supreme god returning to establish a greater kingdom than the ones before.
No matter how far paganism got, it never strayed from this understanding.
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>>127926143
>muh ancestors
>muh
Not an argument.
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>>127927290
Alright man if that's what you believe I'm not here to change you mind man
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>>127927251
>stop giving atheists a bad name
Oh please, as if we are a collective hivemind like the ones who worship a religion. Do I really need a reason to fuck with them? I simply find them pathetic, and that's enough reason for me to mock them, keep your pseudo intellectual shit for you, thank you.
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>>127926525
>religion for slaves
Odin kills you for being courageous and then you serve him in the afterlife dying eternally till Ragnarok when you die forever.
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>>127910752
>w68tguT
>"You must verify your email before you can talk on this server"
Why?
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