The swiss Gov wants to buy new fighter-jets, without a plebiscite. It will cost about 14 billions.
Since the attack of Ariane Grande, swiss millitary wants to join the fight against terrorism. Despite a crushing defeat at the polls at last years Gripen-voting.
>sauce
http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/schweiz/standard/kampfjetkauf-ohne-volksabstimmung/story/17118858
>sauce
http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/schweiz/standard/neue-kampfjets-koennte-bis-zu-14-milliarden-franken-kosten/story/12708127
>sauce
https://www.blickamabend.ch/promi-news/international/ariana-grande-plant-benefiz-konzert-in-manchester-wir-duerfen-den-hass-nicht-gewinnen-lassen-id6743832.html
>>127900928
>some mountain jews want to buy jets
>HAPPPEEEEEENINNNNNGGGGGG
neck yourself kike
>>127901282
Were neutral, this is indeed a happening.
>>127901584
Not really, no one really cares about your country.
>>127900928
What? Why?
Are you bored or something?
>>127900928
swiss pikemen are cool, BUT THIS OP IS A FOOL
its really happening guys
>swiss wants to join syria war
>>127901792
its really happening
>>127901889
sauce?
why don't you just give that money to albanians and niggers so that they can live find of welfare?
where is a plebiscite about that?
>>127900928
>neutrality ends
knock knock
Does Switzerland take in refugees?
>>127902326
yes but not many
get some of these bad boys and be the coolest terrorist fighter in yuropia
>>127902105
>plebiscite
http://archive.is/65VB9 Swiss voters narrowly block deal to buy Saab fighter jets
Swiss may will join the NATO
>sauce
https://www.vimentis.ch/d/dialog/readarticle/schwei-ist-praktisch-mitglied-der-nato-geworden/
>>127902617
it looks like they built it backwards
>>127902549
>not many
too many, combined with all those euro tier immigrants
>>127902798
yes this was 2014
and now they want to avoid it!
>>127902981
it looks like pure victory is what it looks like
perfect roll fighter to protect your white devil jew gold with
>>127903368
>perfect roll fighter to protect your white devil jew gold with
kek
>>127902816
>our government slowly led us into the EU
>they slowly led us into UN
I have no doubt, they will slowly lead us into NATO
Why Gripens? Why not F35?
>>127900928
>>127903198
fuck off you never voted if the army is allowed to buy jets or not you voted about how to finance them in the case of the gripen it was special and thats why you even got to vote... if the army buys the new jets over their normal budget you do not get to vote as you do not get to vote about the army buyng new chairs for their offices
>>127903368
Bwahahaha!
The chinese cannot build shit.
For example they have tried for decades to develop a domestic jet engine to power their fighter aircrafts.
But have a look at their shiny "stealth" fighter! In the end all of the prototypes of that Chengdu J-20 where powered by imported russian engines.
And why can't they develop shit?
Corruption!
The government officials and party member generals just looooooove to embezzle the R&D money.
There was that case of general Xu Caihou, in 2014. He was caught with literally truckloads of stolen money.
>>127903368
>they built it in the SHAPE of an f35
>>127904201
Because they are cheaper and much better value for money?
>>127901889
Don't you have to get a shit load of people to agree to it like a vote or something
Is it true that the Swiss military does not operate outside business hours?
>>127904374
>jordan weissman
let me guess you prefer something made in israel?
>>127904481
4 gen vs 5 gen?
>>127904591
the swiss airforce did not this will change to 24 hours 7 days a week til 2020
>>127904374
>Corruption!
>The government officials and party member generals just looooooove to embezzle the R&D money.
The exact same thing happened with the development of the F-35.
Only difference is NATO pockets are deeper.
>>127900928
lel aren't you guys still flying f5s? how many flight hours did you put on those airframes?
>>127900928
They should spend it on their navy instead.
>>127904337
>elegantly describing the (((trickery))) the government uses to bypass the plebs
I wann see those office chairs worth 14 billions
>>127904838
"generations" are as much as a meme as "stealth"
A plane is a plane.
F-35 can't even beat a Fokker Dr1 in a dogfight.
>>127901584
You're neutral but keep strong defenses.
>>127904201
Hahaha fuck me F35 yeah deploy the F35's so long as you can wait 10 years to have a compromised in every respect flying wallet with two sparklers under the wing.
>>127904337
Why would it be special?
The budget for the next 4 years is 18.8 billions and you think they could buy jets at a pricing of 14 billions. Dont think so
>you lived long enough to see Switzerland participate in an armed conflict
Truly end times
>>127904997
does not even matter you do not get to vote about what the govermentsdepartment do with their normal budget...if you do not like this start an initative
>>127905121
Why would you worry about dog fights?
>>127905121
Because there's no need for current generation planes to do that. Any prop plane can be swiftly taken care of by infantry.
>>127900928
has somebody threatened the cheese?
Kaufen unsere Gripen bitte :333
>>127905385
the point is it wont be a special financing from like with the grippen... they will be bought after 2020 over hte normal vbs budget and the new budget will reflect the the summe needed
>>127904972
we already bought new boats from finland in 2015..
>>127905869
Yes youre right back in 2014 they were talking about buying 55 jets.
Get some sukois for franks sake , Remember if you get Jas Gripen ull support The Islamic State of Sweden :P
>>127906284
How many is it this time? From 70 to 170?
>>127905993
Swiss Navy...why?
I can understand a couple of police boats maybe to control drunk tourists on the lakes and rivers (do you have more than one lake?).
But a Navy...really?
>>127905993
Swiss navy is the best in the world.
Aww yeah baby let's do this thang
>>127900928
>Since the attack of Ariane Grande, swiss millitary wants to join the fight against terrorism.
>Paris
>Nice
>Berlin
>Washington
etc.
But then the stupid Ariana Grande concert happened and you want to NOW join the fight? What kind of lame asstard Ariana fans are you folk?
>>127905555
>Why would you worry about dog fights?
Because it can only carry 2 missiles?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6t6PS2iEc24
YOU KNOW YOU WANT IT
>>127906480
>>127906629
not a real navy just some patrol boats on the major lakes bordering neighboring countries
R.I.P neutrality
>>127906780
the explosion can be seen at
https://youtu.be/6t6PS2iEc24?t=167
>>127906780
Varför ser han så jävla underhållen ut? Lägg av för fan.
>>127900928
you arent allowed to go to war remember ?
>>127900928
>Letting yourself be the target of future muslim terrorism for no good reason
Bad move. You should spend those 14 bil on cheese instead
>>127906728
untrue
Swiss people are so weird i dont like them tbhfams
hey medikit, you should buy our jets instead
they have a 100 year record of being bretty gud
>>127906480
For the lulz?
>>127907597
>bretty gud
>>127900928
The Gripen would be a good, economical replacement for the F-5 Tiger IIs.
The F/A-18s still a few good years left on their airframes.
>>127900928
Oy vey, this is what you get for not buying our aircraft.
>>127907178
People are going crazy. Swiss should be neutral and not a Nato-boiclite!
>>127905121
>"generations" are as much as a meme as "stealth"
yeah confirmed for you not knowing shit
>>127906780
>first flight should happen december last year
Wtf SAAB, we're literally halfway year.
>>127906480
They can use the Rhine to access the English Channel actually
>>127900928
You can't just vote down the Swede, the Swede always gets you in the end. You will buy our Gripen whether you want to or not!
>>127900928
Swiss fighting? What?
Gripens are a good choice. The purchase and ongoing costs are low, they are a capable platform and they are still being updated by Saab and will be for many years.
>>127908229
Swiss should be communist.
>>127900928
>swiss millitary wants to join the fight against terrorism.
by buying fighter jets? bankrupting the country will help the terrorists win.
If they want to fight terrorism. ban islam. Islam is organized crime, after all.
>>127905993
but
you're landlocked
the fuck do you do with boats, you don't even have any naval tradition
>>127906780
Outstanding precision, unlike the bombs dropped by muricans.
>>127900928
im really horny do you have any pics of swiss gold?
>>127909110
>by buying fighter jets? bankrupting the country will help the terrorists win.
zozzle
>>127909405
Why? Anglos aim at civilian houses !!
>>127900928
>Greater Switzerland when?
>>127905480
>increasing military budget heavily
>calling it the new normal budget
GSOA and groups of similar creeds will do, but it will be very difficult to pass in the vote.
So in future we can intercept those stray propeller planes with newest jets, few times a year.
And let me guess, your employed by the government/military?
You strongly sound like some functionary knucklehead.
>>127900928
I think the mountain Jews secretly run the world and control the matrix.
>>127900928
>wants to join the fight against terrorism.
Simply keep non-Europeans out and you win.
>>127901584
This. Switzerland has stood by for so many things, if anything , Switzerland is an indicator of how fucked shit is
>>127907511
It's mutual, Jürgen.
>>127910103
Sorry i dont understand you ?
inshallah my brother pbuh
>>127910103
Ah it's you, Ibrahim.
True, Jürgen would post with our Medkit flag.
if you would give us back the gold you stole from us we will gladly give you sum F-35s
>>127909405
To be fair, I think american bombs are designed to:
1. Avoid bombing allies like ISIS if an order to aim at them is given
2. Get rid of some welfare queens/equipment so that more money must be spent to maintain the military-industrial complex