>people actually think this way.

>>127876668
Actually my perception of there being a difference is ethical, not moral. The objective vs the subjective. That fucker who wrote that is pretty dumb.

>clouded
Only a Jew would think that.

>>127876668
At first glance, that quote seems to be stating that coal miners (or at least the ones in poor countries or in the past) work really shitty and abusive jobs just like prostitutes do.

I don't really see something wrong with that.

>>127876668
>implying I'm going to listen to a guy named 'sprankle'
The coal miner sells his hard work, prostitutes just lay there and let strangers enjoy what God gave them

>>127876668
Actually, coal miners sell their labor.

Whores sell themselves.

>>127876668
He isn't wrong on one hand. For any job you sell your time and skills or your body if it's a hard labor job. It's just a retarded point trying to make coal miners falsely equivalent to a non-ethical job.

>>127876668
sell you body is a gentile term for sell your pussy. Obviously selling pussy is less noble than working for a living

>>127877191
>>127877176
>>127877086

Who cares what they're selling. The objective effect of what they're selling is the thing to not be distracted from. One is selling work, possibly skilled, possibly unskilled, to provide for society's benefit, in return gets paid for said work. The prostitute contributes nothing tangible or important, and can actually damage society by spreading stds, drug use, and unwanted children. All objectively unethical contributions to society because they are all negative impacts to a society's good function.

>>127877647
getting a nut off is pretty tangible and important

>>127876668

Those pesky morals always clouding our views!

>If you think mafia hitmen 'sell their killing skills' but slaughterhouse workers don't, your view of labour is clouded by your moralistic view of killing.

>>127876668
I have no desire to marry a whore nor a coal miner.
Argument is irrelevant.

>>127877833
Do it with a serious gf or wife. Outside of that, you know what you are you nigger.

Seeing a lot of cucks and leafs in this thread....

>>127876668
>PsyD
lol

I wonder if the kike author would mind his daughter or wife fucking strangers for money?

>>127876668

They're both selling their bodies.

But one is a contribution to society, even a nessecity.

The other adds no value to society, to the contrary. And is not a nessecity.

>>127877582
nobility is still a moralistic concept. The argument still stands.

>>127876668
>our perspective is clouded by morality

thanks for the compliment

>>127876668

(((Dr. Eric Sprankle)))

>>127878045
>Do it with a serious gf or wife.
>implying any girl wants to date a coal miner

>>127878207

He probably let's Jamal fuck his wife and pays him to do it.
Cuckolding is the 'intellectual fetish' after all goyim!

>>127876987
Most of them went up on smoke, what did you expect?

Jews consider manual labor to be prostitution, shocking concept for a people who have never broken a sweat in their lives

>>127876668
if you can lay on the floor and be treated as a tool you're selling your body
If the amount of result you yield is important to profits then you're selling your labor

>>127878349
I am implying that. You're pretty dumb.

now i know why the communists in asia killed all the (((Academics)))

>>127876668
Coal mining is now a dying field as other energy sources are both more profitable and more environmental. It has also been the poster child for the cause of improving worker's rights and universally seen as a shitty job.
On the other hand liberals now frequently encourage young women to start doing porn and becoming strippers as a valid career choice, and handwave away any sources that prove its negative effects as "sex-negative propaganda".

>>127878572

>Never broken a sweat in their lives

They will when they reach the ovens

>>127878231
by this metric, everyone is selling their bodies.

Since even people stocking shelves in grocery stores are blowing their knees out over time.
Even office employees are getting fat and developing bad posture etc.

The difference is, everyone else's job serves a purpose to society. Yes, even the guy stocking shelves.
Meanwhile prostitution does not provide anything that couldn't be better provided by marriage without feminist driven divorce laws.

Prostitutes are very selfish, lazy and vain people.

>>127876668
>sex is nothing important or special, you prudes
Then rape isn't a serious crime.

>>127878833
theyre only more profitable because of regulations.

>>127876668
>thinking in this strinctly materialistc way
kys atheist

>>127877942
>Vegans would meme this

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>>127876668
>trusting a man named Sprankle

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>>127876668
prostitutes sell their reputation and most likely will receive sexually transmitted disease eventually

coal miners work in hard labor to mine the current majority source of power in the US and abroad

prostitutes gain shame from their work while coal miners should gain respect, but often are treated poorly.

>>127878999
Get a job in fracking, it's better for you than coal mining and is still going to be around in 5 years.

>>127878349
Someone has to mine the coal that these whores burn, a fortune can be made.

>>127876668
Everyone who does a job is technically "selling" his body and skills and getting something in return.

And there's nothing wrong with having a moralistic view of sexuality

You should be free to sell your labour how you damn well see fit.

If there is a market for you to sell your body and you want to sell your body why the fuck shouldn't you?

Who has the right to tell you not to make your living with a consensual trade of goods?

Besides, prohibition is a fools errand. You cannot prohibit people from fulfilling their base desires. It does more damage to try and do so. The best you can do is legalise, regulate and minimise the harm to all involved.

>>127876668
Sex workers sell their sex and orgasm
coal miners sell their working power

>>127878986
>>127879151

best points itt

>>127877191
Whores also sell labor, the labor is used to achieve sexual relief.
Nobody "sells" themselves unless they sign an servitude contract.

>>127876668
Yeah but one is a whore

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>>127879061

They probably would.

>>127876668
Dr. Eric Sprankle, Jew

>>127878349
You're the perfect cuck m8
>Mine the coal
>She burns it

>>127876668
Stupid. Miner, like all workers, sells work done using his active body whereas the hooker sells access to her passive body.

Hating Weimerica more every day.

Imagine what a stable society would exist, one where female sexuality is freed up so that they can be sex workers and not feel sad when "racist frog maymays" pop up on their Twitter ridiculing them for their degenerate life choices and failure to birth children.
What a beautiful utopia, motherless, diseased whores and pimps who run them around.
Versus a breadwinner doing an honest day's work.
There is honour in your work, whether you like it or not. Reminds me of Good Will Hunting, when he talks about the "honour" in janitorial work.

If it was a male prostitute it would be clearer that one is a work-shy net drain on society while the other is a hardworking coalminer.

>>127876668
I DONT BELIEVE IT, I cant believe it....

>>127880046
beautiful

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>>127878527

>>127876668


very good one

>>127877647
By that logic, brokerage dealing should be an illegal profession as well.

What's unethical about two consenting adults making an exchange of money for sexual services?

>>127876668
>your view is clouded
Not an argument.

He is right.

>>127876668
Sex workers spread disease and contribute little to society. Coal workers sacrifice their bodies to power the world. How is this a discussion?

>>127878937
>by this metric, everyone is selling their bodies.
that's the point of the OP, yeah
it's commie propaganda bruh

>>127880740
The answer is it depends because there are all kinds of brokerages for all kinds of industries and products and services.

Are you taking about being a middle man or are you talking about the ethics of selling certain things?

>>127880848
Nothing in isolate. But society-wide, history has shown very damaging long term repercussions.

>>127876668
Prostitution should be legal IMO, but the position that it shouldn't be has merits.

>net zero gain for society
>distributes resources to people who contribute nothing
>spreads disease (arguably, legalization would mitigate this)
>leads to infidelity (partnered customers)

Coal mining is noble, fucking for money isn't.

>>127877647
Its more unethical to pollute the environment than to have sex for money. Coal miners don't give a fuck anyway so fuck them and their dirty dying industry.

The last thing we need is more fucking coal but there will ALWAYS be a demand for sex. Literally always.

>>127876668
the pimp sells your body, reality strikes

It's a pretty shitty analogy and any manner of job takes a physical and mental toll on the body
professional athletes market and sell their bodies and are often exploited, especially at college level
teachers go through mental hell in urban schools
coal miners have their respiratory system absolutely fucking destroyed
and whores catch STDs and are stigmatized for being sluts

I don't really understand what point that faggot is trying to make now

>>127876668
its true desu senpai

>If you think rape is a serious crime but copyright infringement is not, your view of property is clouded by your moralistic views of sexuality.

rape tiem??????

>>127877647
>feeling good isn't tangible or important

By that definition all luxury goods should be made illegal.

>>127876668
>somehow sex is an act which you can no longer apply morals or ethics to.

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>>127876668

>Dr. Eric Sprankle is an Associate Professor at Minnesota State University, Mankato where he serves on the faculty of the clinical psychology graduate program and the sexuality studies undergraduate program. He is also a licensed clinical psychologist in the state of Minnesota, and an AASECT-certified sex therapist. Dr. Sprankle received his doctorate in clinical psychology from Xavier University and completed a postdoctoral fellowship at the University of Minnesota Medical School's Program in Human Sexuality. He currently leads the Sexual Health Research Team at MSU examining sex work stigma, the effects of sexually explicit material, older adult sexuality, and the intersections of sexual health and genital piercings.

>When not engaged in scholarly pursuits, Dr. Sprankle religiously reads Edgar Allan Poe, watches horror films, and poorly gardens.

And no, I can't find out if he's Jewish.

>>127879151
Who cares? People who work manual labor sell their health. Prostitutes sell their dignity. There's no difference. Women could never do any valuable work to society anyway. Your moralistic authoritarianism doesn't help society in any way.

>>127881684
oy vey

>>127881314
I disagree. The damages caused by frivolous sex and Malthusian reproduction, contributed in part by prostitution, has been considerably more damaging throughout human history than the last 200 years since the beginning of the industrial revolution, coal alone.

>>127876668
Well we don't make women work the coal mines do we? Because women's bodies are more valuable then men's.

Think about it in terms of reproducing women's bodies are in constant demand because they are off the market for 9 months and then are worthless after like 60. Men are able to reproduce all year long and well into their old age.

>>127880046
Now that's an argument

>>127878986
Well, forced labor is basically slavery, and that's rather serious crime. Not murder of course, but still bad.
>>127878937
Not everyone can get married or find a girlfriend. By your logic nurse, caring for sick, is doing shit job - he has family, cook doesn't provide anything - do cook yourself, cloud services providers do nothing - you can get your own private cloud easily.

>>127881541
Who said anything about illegal. We're talking ethics, shame, and societal perception and effects, not legality. What board are you reading?

>>127876668
this isn't a bad thread and you all should be commended for engaging in critical thought to some degree or another.

>>127881285

The same could be said for a huge number of industries.

More importantly, prostitution has shown itself to be an inevitability of civilization - no society has ever stamped it out, and attempts to do so universally lead to an increase in the harms associated with the industry corresponding to the intensity with which the attempt to stamp it out are made.

Prostitution should be legal and regulated.

>>127881192
Doesn't matter. No brokerage dealer makes any kind of product. They just move money around, contributing nothing to society aside from increased debt. Also, your logic could be applied to most service industries.

>>127876897
Psychology doctorates evidently don't involve taking a philosophy class.

>>127876668
Unless coal miners use ejaculate to melt rocks I fail to see the parallels.

>>127881906
>Malthusian reproduction, contributed in part by prostitution
The fuck? Prostitutes do not bear child every time they have sex in right time. In fact, they rarely do have children.

>>127882332
>More importantly,
laws against prostitution exists because sex trafficking is a very lucrative business

/pol/ can't see how their own views about sex feed into their demise

To the people that think whores don't contribute. If they didn't exist there'd be alot more rape cases laying around. Think about that retards.

>>127876668
Wouldn't the analogy be that male porn stars sell their body for sex?

Hard physical labor destroys your body over time.

You ever see any old coal miners looking like they aren't in constant pain?

Yeah, in a way, they are selling their body.

>>127882332
I don't disagree with any of those points.

I think we may be taking past each other here.

My point is that the OPs quote is wrong. There is an ethical difference between the two. Prostitution, while perhaps made legal, should still be frowned upon as an industry and treated like pariah segment within society.

Functional healthy nuclear families have historically contributed the most to society and are paramount to a well functioning one. Prostitution subverts that by trivializing sex. Prostitution, while ubiquitous in humanity and therefore should be legalized, should be kept from interfering with its success as much as possible. This means minimizing the impact of stds, promiscuity, unwanted children, drug abuse, etc. etc.

What is this fucking meme that prostitution is a net drain on society?

Will you think about it for a second with getting all morality man on it?

What happens when the males of society are prohibited from purchasing consensual sex from attractive women?

1) They go right ahead and do it anyway. This creates a black market, empowers criminals, related crimes swell, the transaction often becomes unconsensual, people are abused, people get hurt or sick. It becomes a stain.

2) Men who have no realistic means of fulfilling there sexual needs (because not all men can get laid nearly as much as their libido would like) divert those sexual attentions towards normal women who become ever more choosy, entitled and unobtainable.
What happens when men begin to give regular women all this attention? It empowers the women. It gives them control. Instead of being able to satisfactorily fuck a pro, safely, cheaply and discretely, these men are loose in society worshipping at the feet of women in the hopes of getting sex. It goes to womens' heads. They get away with murder. Men begin to tolerate insane amounts of female bullshit because women hold all the power on a societal level.

Men get angry at not getting laid. Men get desperate. Rapes go up, suicides go up, male morale (crucial for the well being of society) goes through the floor because what was a triviality becomes an all consuming compulsion.
Marketers take advantage. Buy this, do this, you need this, live like this, believe this, think that... This is what you need to do to get pussy that you need.

Overall men are left at the mercy of their natural urges and women are unduly elevated to a position of power that no society can survive.

You would find that if it were legalised and socially normalised that it would actually remove the overt sexuality from our society. It would force women to actually compete for male attention with decency and homemaking skills.

>>127882405
Brokerages put people together who would otherwise be unable to find each other. In many cases they're a lynchpin to enterprise. eBay, Goldman Sachs, amazon, Netflix, all brokerages in a sense. Producer, brokerage, buyer.

>>127882405
Brokerage takes risk,his investment results in the rising of an organization,more R and D,expansions and workers.

Instead you mean to say one should simply invest his money in some Disneyland shit?

>>127876668
(((Dr. Eric Sprankle))))

>>127876668

>lying on your back taking the cocks of strange men in various holes for money
>mining the very earth beneath us for valuable and useful minerals that our civilization literally wouldn't have existed without access to

THESE THINGS ARE EXACTLY THE SAME.

Bonus Round:

Are you implying the women are incapable of being miners? That's cissexist.

>>127882609
Didn't say that. But prostitution does lead to the trivialization of sex in society in general.

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>>127876668
yes it is

>>127876668
Well, he is correct.

>>127876668
i wonder if he puts sprankles on his cupcakes

>>127883088
Sex IS trivial thing. By sacralizing it you are feeding billions of vapid cunts, cucks and feminists, you are empowering women.

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>>127876668
Do libcucks seriously think coal mining works the same way it did centuries ago?

>>127881684
that guy belongs in an oven. wew

>>127878231
True, no one needs coal anymore.

>>127876668
prostitutes are spreaders of disease

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>>127883987
das how we coal mine

>>127876668
men are expendable.

>>127883595
And how is that a bad thing? If anything - it teaches people to use condoms and check for std.

>>127879714
>be coal miner
>have dangerous and unprestigious job
>quite job and become the only jigalo in small Pennsylvanian town.
>father dozens of "milk man babies"
>make monies from wives of coal miners, out if their pockets.
>capitalism ftw

>>127884616
>implying the harder the job the better
That's quite a commie way of thought. Why don't you try yourself at belomor canal digging?

>>127882723
>laws against prostitution exists because sex trafficking is a very lucrative business

Laws against prostitution enable sex trafficking by leaving the industry completely unregulated and pushing it underground in the hands of criminals.

Legalize consensual prostitution, keep sex trafficking criminalized, crack down on the latter harshly and it will shrink quickly because the risks won't be worth the rewards.

>>127883088

That's not unreasonable, but what does

>Prostitution, while perhaps made legal, should still be frowned upon as an industry and treated like pariah segment within society.

Look like in reality?

>>127884616

Would be pretty sweet.

Until the coal miners start to notice that all the little laddies in town look suspiciously like the only gigolo in town and then brick you up alive at the back of a disused mine shaft.

>>127884882
They contribute much more to society than those celebrities that earn millions.
So have some respect.

>>127885097
"Ah, that shaft, we call that the whore hole."

>>127883595
>>127883595
And that's a problem why? Oh wait, it's because nerd virgins will just get more and more jealous of everyone fucking but them.

>>127876897
ethics and morals are essentially the same thing, and either way neither can ever be wholly objective, you're retarded m8

>you must abandon morality to become enlightened

>gets enlightened

>being a filthy whore is the same as being an honest hard laborer

so this... is true intelligence...

wow...

>>127885549
no. you're a fucking inbred retard.

>>127881314
Confirmed for knowing nothing about the energy industry.

>>127885549
While ethics can never be wholly objective, it can be objectively applied, as opposed to morals which are arbitrary and often distinct from person to person. If you can't attain perfection, aim for it to achieve excellence.

>>127876668

One provides a useful, albeit unskilled, labor to society. It requires actual effort, and has risks to it. The other merely sells their body and gets money off of it. So no, it isn't 'selling their body'

>>127885674
explain how you think ethics or morals can ever be objective? there's no way to prove any ethical or moral position is better than any other. Sure there are popular or common positions to take, but that doesn't make them right.

1000-2000+ years ago people had a much different view on gender equality, rape, physical violence, murder, etc.

You can't really tell me that humans have since just become "more ethical" since then, can you? Or is it perhaps because society dictates the popular ethical and moral position of an era?

Goddamn leafs are stupid pathetic little cucks.

>>127883039
Everyone sells their body. The quote compares the coal miner and the prostitute as equal in this way in the way they conduct labor.
The retarded part is pretending the stigma towards the prostitute is arbitrary because she's doing exactly what the miner does.
But the stigma isn't that a prostitute is just "using her body" for labor, it's the trivializing of an act that is socially and ethically significant.
Sex must be more important to be a simple means of earning a living because our society became successful through k-selected reproduction, a strategy that is most refined through a monogamous family unit.
People tend to think the nuclear family is the default method of raising children and always has been. But there were matriarchal, one-father alpha male, and "fatherless" human societies. These societies were stagnant and unable to advance past stone-age level organization, partly due to the lack of intensive dedicated parenting that was much more prevalent in the k-selected societies. It's this reason Etruscan tribes evolved into Roman kingdoms and then a Roman empire while the Bantu people remained a hunter-gatherer society for thousands of years until they were colonized. It's the reason the Mayans built Chichen Itza and the few polyandrist Indian societies barely survive historical citation.

>>127885036
I agree, legalize and regulate

If prostitutes were required to be licenced, on birth control and tested for STDs it would reduce STDs in the general population and there would be less unwanted children

You could then collect taxes from these registered professionals and use the money for to run pro marriage and family ads on radio and TV and set up marriage counseling centers and orphanages.

The monetary value of sex would go down. Hookers would cost less and so would dates. Women would start being valued for their personalities instead of bodies and would actually have to improve themselves and not just their looks because they would be competing with professionals on an open market.

I'm saying that those in power like those laws
because they profit from sex trafficking and push degenerate media to make /pol/locks have a backwards view about sex and then turn around and that support to keep prostitution illegal for "moral" reasons

>>127886125
You're implying it is impossible to measure the impact of actions and derive a performance value from such measurement.

He's right. In either case you are entering a transaction in which you are paid for what is produced by the energy of your body. One such product is transient and intangible (sexual pleasure), while the other is tangible, transient, transmutable. Money, then, is just the physical representation of the worth assigned to the product of your body's energy.

>>127886233

But prostitution doesn't hamper that selection.

Prostitution lowers the value of women. It forces them to compete for the affections of more men. It forces them to adhere to male standards. It forces them to become good mothers and attentive wives because they know that if their husband is not satisfied he has every legal chance to go down the street and fuck a pro.

Prostitution knocks female hypergamy right on it's stupid head because, all of a sudden, the average man isn't tripping all over himself just to get a whiff of an average girl's overly entitled puss.

>>127886356
Great post. You described my position pretty succinctly.

>>127876668

well yeah it's shitty to be a coal miner too

>>127886460
I'm not saying that, but don't pretend that's how we come up with our morals or ethics either. You really think the way society functions right now is based on a measure of performance-based impact and action? Seriously?

Whores are overpriced because whoring is illegal. Roastie pussy would be a cheap commodity if the law had its head straight.

>>127876668
Sex workers are selling access to their bodies, "renting" them, producing no wealth

Coal miners are selling the labour and productive output of their bodies, producing wealth.

Prostitution is rent-seeking behaviour - gaining profit from unproductive access, like a road or river toll, this is a sex toll.

>>127886846
You're lumping the two together because you don't know.

I'm not saying that. I'm saying one you are able to, the other you are not. For instance it is both unethical and immoral to murder another human being.

Unethical because murder implies destroying a part of society's capacity (a human) for the sake of personal gratification or gain and one equal person isn't necessarily worth another person. Lets not even get into the gross infringement on the deceased, their family, tax payers etc etc in particular. It damages society and people. Hampers its success. Undermines its ability to function.

Murder is immoral because you think it's wrong for whatever reason. Be it religion, personal experience, or you simply feel that way.

See the difference now.

Ethics, while perhaps not perfectly objective, can be applied in a systematic fashion with rules. morals cannot.

>>127886125
put the weed down, moron

>>127887794
eth·ics
noun
moral principles that govern a person's behavior or the conducting of an activity.
synonyms: moral code, morals, morality, values, rights and wrongs, principles, ideals, standards (of behavior), value system, virtues, dictates of conscience

Anyway I see what you're getting at. Even so, there's no way to claim that ethics is objective or can be applied objectively.

Most ethical (and moral) principles aren't based on anything other than fear of consequence (or I suppose retribution and judgement if you're religious).

Without the rule of law, what do you think would happen? I guarantee murder rates would go up significantly, as would rape, theft, physical violence, theft, etc.

People aren't inherently ethical or moral, they just fear the consequences of their actions. There have been plenty of times in my life where I wanted to curb stomp someone (and would have been physically able to) but the fact that there were witnesses around and the chance of me getting away with it without serving time in prison would have been extremely low, so I decide it's a bad idea to trade my long term freedom for some short term gratification.

>>127877647
Wrong, the laborer contributes essential goods to society, while the wore contributes a luxury good.
Sometimes a guy just wants to get his dick wet without dealing with all the bullshit attached to women. If the man has the money to pay and the woman is freely renting her vagina then I see no problem here.
Morality certainly exists, however it is immoral to legislate morality

>>127886356
Pragmatic ideas anon.

>>127886766
It is a threat, in a k-selected society it would be a k-selected woman most threatened by prostitution. Her way of life is threatened because other woman are offering the goods in a simple transaction.
This is where the slut and floozy shaming phenomenon comes from. It's not men that hate sluts, men love sluts, they just wouldn't marry them. Women -hate- sluts because sexual appeal has become an arms race. More and more skin has to be shown and risque behaviors have to be adopted to gain male attention and ultimately, their resources.
Now the stigma is much lower than it's ever been, at least in America. And we are bearing witness to what happens when "slut-shaming" becomes the ostracized behavior.
Hypergamy. Every woman is playing with nukes. Every girl from a 5 to 10 knows she can have a 9, if for just an hour. So they'll slut it up through their 20s till they hit the wall and find no one wants them. These rejected women join the ranks of the many organizations levying socialist changes in our countries to create the male provider they can never have.
How can women working and earning the same amount as men and the concept of alimony co-exist in a society? Feminism of course, and you can look to the collapse of whole emasculated Empires for the inevitability coming our way.
The West is done son. If for this reason alone.

>>127888783
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics

A dictionary definition isn't going to fully encapsulate ethics. And the one you picked is dumbed down. Neither for Wikipedia for that matter. But it's a start. The attempted objective application of morals and codes of behavior.

>>127888905
It's unethical to legislate morality. Hence the extreme emphasis on separation of church and state in US political history.

>>127889411
I was being pedantic, I get that there's a philosophical difference, but that doesn't change the point that I made that there's still no objective application and that people are only ethical for fear of consequence.

Imagine an alternate reality where we have no legal system, no law enforcement, and tell me how ethical (or moral) the average person is going to be.

>>127889002

I agree with that logic but that's exactly why legalised and normalised prostitution helps build stronger societies.

It takes all the power away from roasties because men can spend far less money and effort to get better sex from hotter women. It brings the value of women back into realistic boundaries. It deflates their capital.
As men get over that urge to have sex with hotties, their confidence increases, their value in society increases and they start to look to build families with women that are, because of prostitution, eager to impress men with actual companionship.

Slut shaming will come back in force because now, any girl who gives it away easily and for free will be twice the whore as a normal pro and ten times the whore of a regular woman.
Sluts will be hated tenfold because they'll be taking male attention away from women at a time when male attention is already at a low (because pussy is easily available).

Basically, men get good, easy sex. This lowers the sexual value of regular women which destroys their hypergamy because dudes just aren't as interested in them anymore.

>>127889887
I don't disagree with any point. We do live in a society governed by law, which while perhaps very crooked anymore and of dubious objectivity, is an attempt, emphasis on attempt, to apply a systematic framework to human interaction that benefits society. Hence why human society exists and has done so more or less for a few millennia now. What is considered ethical has certainly changed as societies change, but the technology of ethics, like the technology of marriage are fundamental enabling intangible technologies that springboard society from lawless hunter-gatherer-mad-max-federal-prison-always-adversarial social interactions.

It's part of why the Middle East, despite being resource rich, has atrocious human rights records, overpopulation, Damon, technological stagnation, and no human development whatsoever. The entirety of their social interactions is adversarial. A fair deal doesn't mean anything to them. There are only winners and losers.

>did consulting work for a major US company operating in the UAE

>>127891221
Damon = famine. Phone posting

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>>127877086
except coal miners make the society and infrastructure keep going and whores just make your penis good, that's a difference. prostitute is a vanity item.

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>>127892518
DELETE THIS

>>127876668
Maybe the difference is that one of them is mining coal and the other one is burning it?

>>127890793
I see no historical example of a society surviving sexual liberation and it's seemingly inevitable slide into socialist collapse. I could absolutely be wrong on that. But you and me are poised for the next test of this ever repeating human experiment. Your country and mine both went through the free love sexual revolution together, your country legalized prostitution and mine didn't. I don't think it's terribly arguable at this point which of our countries has adopted more socialist policy but I man smoking a pack a day shouldn't mock a man with cysts in his lungs.
We'll see how the next decade or so plays out as far as policies go. Currently the UK has 24% single parent households, the US 23%. So I'll check back with you in a decade or so. May the barbarians remember us fondly.

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>>127892518
>tfw no sauce

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>>127892518
DELET

also gib sauce

>>127892826
underrated leaf

>>127877086
>coal miners
>paid miserable wages
>severe health risk
> brutal labour
>if mining accident doesn't kill u
>then lung cancer + black lung will
>but if u survive, your health is generally poor for the rest of your life
> coal miners were essential for the industrial revolution, giving people modern society.
> contribution to society ignored by feminazis in their fossil fuel powered offices

>prozzis
>1st world high class hourly rage is higher than UK prime minister, nearly as high as President of US
> 3rd world rate is about the same as a doctor in the 1st world
>low to modest health risk
> work involves lying on back
> low chance of death
> low chance of injury
> feminazis whinge 24/7 about how bad prozzis have it

1st world prozzi is just about the best job in the world. No wonder so many women choose a >$150 hr job over some shitty $10 hr menial work.

>>127877086
Well, my dad was a coalminer, the shaft collapsed, they got burried alive, his friend died meters from him. Dad got out, with back injury, othervise i wouldnt post this.

You shure, shuld see something wrong. Physical labour takes a toll on your body,it isnt payed well. If its payed,than your bodies degradation isnt included in your paycheck.

>>127896390

Learn English before you post here again.

>>127876897

>>ethics not morals
>>needs thesaurus


Its because society protects womens bodies but uses mens as cannon fodder.

>>127889588
I'm sorry, but this is true.

Having a bf visit a prostitute was the best thing that ever happened to me.

>>127884587
in american education system, we bomb places that offer subsidized condom and other birth control knowledge and even the leftiest of schools will not show you a real penis or vagina, let alone teach you how to use a condom as a 14 year old horny snotty little shit. putting a condom on a frozen banana deemed too graphic.

>>127896659
If i say o, as a return, will you learn hungarian? Also if i would be you i would start learning Paki.

>>127896659
i was able to read it just fine
you
DICK

>>127898230
You should be learning this shit from your parents, not tax payer funded (((public education)))).

Condoms are fucking degenerate AF.

>>127878440
It's only the intellectual fetish if the goyim do it.

Jews don't want anything to do with niggers unless it's making them money.

>>127898588
Thanks, for telling that cunt to fuck off.
Because sometimes its pretty obvious that idiots who was born with silverspoon in their mouth cant imagine or process that they cant see the forest from a fucking tree.

>>127885909
>>127876897
>all this tipping
Ethics is for plebs.

>>127876668
>A whore lays on her back and spends 15 minutes earning what a coal miner spends 2 weeks earning.
>WOW THEY TOTALLY ARE THE SAME!

If I was a hot bitch, id be selling my body until I was a used up fucking saggy mess and swim in the money and better myself later.

Thats the problem, women dont know how to do that, so they waste it all young and then cry when nobody wants them.

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>>127900700
>what.

>>127878527
Didn't happen kike. Fuck off.

>>127900520
:>

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>>127876668
They're both trading labour for money, yet conflating them beyond previously mentioned is horse shit, n*gger tier.

>>127901346
Because there is value in non-memetic coal.

>>127876668
who cares? poor people deserve to be enslaved by the rich, anyone who says otherwise is a sociaist cuck.

>>127876668

>current year
>having a moralistic view of sexuality

Don't you know you should be giving handies to strangers instead of reading this, anon?

>>127880740
it fucking well should

>>127902240
cant get much more cucked than this...

>>127876668
one sell genitalia, the other doesn't

>>127878349
Jews always set up brothels around mines you idiot read a fucken book

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>>127876668
nonono
he's saying coal miners are whores
blowing each other 1000s of feet below the earths crust.they are having gay for pay orgies and shit.
you've misunderstood
pic unrelated

>>127880046
I mean, I can't disagree

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>>127876668
One sign of intelligence is "being able to distinguish differences"

Coal miner is mining coal in a harsh enviroment. He has to lift heavy weights, endure in high temperatures and humidity, there is coal dust everywhere. He works 100's of meters underground in a dangerous enviroment. The product of his labor is coal, used widely as fuel in electrical plants and heating.

Whore is getting paid for fucking strangers. The product of her labor is few mililiters of protein.

How do you compare these two exactly? Or is it just the cloud of morality eclipsing the assumed equality of their labor?

It always strikes me as off that when discussing something like prostitution that typically pro-capitalist and free market supporters suddenly deride it by saying it "doesn't make a good contribution to society", as if that was ever deemed an acceptable excuse to ban something that is otherwise in line with such beliefs.

>>127876668
>Dude, like, work is bad.

On a sidenote, why are prostitutes so uppity?

I tried them three times, and all three times they are acting like pompous cunts, like I should be honored by the opportunity of being in the presence of a pretty princess like her. "Ewww you like want to have like sex and stuff? *siiigh* Ooookay, I guess". I get angry when a grocery clerk gives me that attitude, let alone when I pay to feel good

>>127876668
coal miners are based as fuck.