Nazis were leftists

>>127859925
You don't say

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Nazis were fascist, used corporatism instead of socialism, and explicitly murdered communists in the camps.

Nazis killed leftists in the camps. Fuck off with this revisionist shit.

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>>127859925

>comparing national socialism with marxian socialism

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>>127859925
Gee, I didn't know leftists supported a strong family and work ethic.

>>127859925
I agree that they were leftist but certainly not worse than communism.

>>127860243
>>127860548
>we're socialists
>oh no, we're not left, I swear :)
Don't shit yourself burger.

Nazis were leftist, deal with it.

>>127859925
Yeah anon, they were the incarnation of radical leftist thought. But while there are solid similarities, there are more with Italian ideology in the same time period especially with the whole black block tactics and the authoritarian leftist regime based in Marxist thought.

>>127860716
>Work/Concentration Camps/Gulags
>Killing captives
>Robbing countries of their art, fighting against catholic church
No, not the same at all.

>>127860791
Not an argument

>>127860548
So the soviets after lenin werent leftist? This shows the uselessness of left-right

>>127861202
even the US had concentration camps. they also had welfare. does that mean they were communist too? kurwa

>>127860548
Socialism has both the values of a capitalistic society and the economic system of communism, basically giving the system the horrible parts of each. So while the capitalistic values of work and family remain, there is still shit in the corner of your system when it comes to the economics.

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>>127861330
No, it means they were leftist.

Both were socialists, they called to the same group of people. - Workers

Deny it all you want. They worked together.

>>127859925
>third position
That being said both Communism and National Socialism were sons of Liberalism and Enlightenment Ideology.

>>127861497
Yeah, both seem to carry the same roots, the same authoritarian, totalitarian regimes and the only difference is the economic systems.

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>>127859925
>N-no we want to kill the communists
Proceed to give entire East Europe to them without a fight.
They also destroyed and raped Poland, the most anti-communist country in Europe.

Nice heroes you got there /pol/

>>127860548
Back then the Left represented a completely different group of people than today's "Left". Today's Left are rich kids, SJWs, white knight cucks and niggers, back then it were low-brow factory workers, artisans and other skilled but also poor rabble.

In any case, the Nazis were at most Center-Left but definitely not Right, I have no idea why people keep referring to Right-wingers as Nazis. While the attack helicopter meme is funny in reality you can't have both full authority and right economics, after a point they become mutually exclusive.

>>127861652
That's not to imply that Hitler and the Nazis are leftists. He firmly belongs on the right. National Socialism was a hybrid of Modernism and Traditionalism. The USSR was pure Modernism.

>>127861653
Dude we hate both for the most part.

authoritarian dicks will always be authoritarian dicks, no matter how many jews they kill

>>127861792
>economics
Dismal science. Red herring. The economy is not real. Order vs Chaos defines the right/left divide. Anarchy being far left and Absolutism being far right.

>>127861831
My point was not to draw those observations as I was not previously aware of that, but good shit nonetheless anon

>>127859925
>>both militaristic and imperialistic
How is this an indicator for how left a party is?

Are you retarded?

it's true.

socialism is the system of robbing and eliminating the smart and successful leaders of society and economy and handing their wealth to the loser betas of society only to fail miserably, and that is exactly the story of nazi Germany.

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>>127859925
Daily reminder that leftists ARE nazis.
They just have zero fucking self awareness.

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>>127860339
>socailism

>>127862415
>judging the veracity of an ideology by contingent factors of history
Fucking Jews.

>>127863110
>roads

>>127863182
Nah I ain't a AnCap cuck.

>>127859925
>anti-human
Humanism is a leftist ideology. Post disregarded.

>>127863237
>ah yes, I love to be a slave fucked in the ass by gov
>please my dear fuhrer, take my wife and fuck her while I watch
Stupid daneshit.

>>127859925
>same style
Radical collectivists, yes, individualism and political disregard is for faggots.

>both socialists
National Socialism isn't Marxian Socialism. It is 'socialist' in the sense that the general welfare of society should not be neglected for the purpose of international interests, such as capitalist societies in the west. Private property and business exist in national socialist societies. Some corporations were nationalized during wartime in the 30's to support the war effectively.

>both militaristic and imperialistic
Because not being militaristic and imperialistic is for faggots.

>both used the same inhuman ways
If you mean work camps, then yes, Germany used work camps with political prisoners.

>>127863182
privately built roads are usually more efficient

government roads are never properly paved but I guess if it was Germans.....

>>127863313
>all government is inherently bad
The worker's anarchist Utopia will surely work this time right? Humanism is a shit.

>>127863414
see: Autobahn

>>127863428
I shit on both communists/nazis and democratic animals.

>>127863313
I don't see how that has anything to do with my post.

>>127863575
As long as we all agree democracy is throwing pearls before swine I'm happy.

>national socialism
>social democrats
>socialism
these are different, they aren't the same just cause they have socialism

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>>127859925
I wonder who is behind this post

>>127863131
lick my shoes, inferior creature.

>>127864327
>mfw Jews have no priestly class because we burned down their disgusting temple and are doomed to spend eternity in Sheol because they can't be forgiven because they can't offer sacrifices anymore

OP.
You faggot need to understand politics and history. A simple quote doesn't make it a global truth.

The world nowadays is ruled by bank companies. Those banks are owned by kikes.
Communism was the best form of slavery and control of people ever invented because it was subversive and people were attracted to the fake ideas it promised. Modern communism/Marxism and advanced socialism = leftists/Democrats.

Capitalism is not the contrary of communism. This is the mistake people generally make. Capitalism is a car that helps you reach your destination, while Marxism is the driver (who can drive the car off the road). The only ideology and true adversary to Marxism/communism had been nationalism, which is compatible with capitalism (Japan).
Ultra nationalism = Nazism
This means Nazism can't be leftism or Marxism.
Capitalism needs a moral ideology to survive, because it's just a tool of advancement.
If we take the American case, Marxism attracted people's attention in the 60s and begun to develop and poison all the country. America now it's a majority Marxist country running on liberal laws (using capitalism)

China is a perfect example that capitalism and communism are both compatible. With communism as an ideology and capitalism as a tool

>>127859925
Goebbels was also a big fan of Stalin, but he had to keep it on the down low after voicing his support for Stalin at a nazi beer hall meeting caused a brawl that resulted in several deaths.

>>127864278
hahaha le jew :))))
haha wery funy
haha where are my upboats XDD

Kill yourself stupid amerisharter.

>>127864476
lay off the meth, weirdo.

>>127860243
Hitler campaigned as a socialist and governed as a fascist.

>>127859925
>polecucks will make 3 threads defending pag*nism, defending EU and bashing natsoc in 1 hour
Okay, the shitposting crown has been transferred to you toilet cleaners. Aussies and leafs got nothing on you

>>127861792
Academics have spent the last 70+ years turning Hitler into a right wing extremist. Heaven forbid we find out that leftists fully supported Hitler before he invaded the USSR.

>>127860243
Fascism calls for government control of the economy. That's lefty as fuck, you grognard LARPer.

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>>127863034
you /r/Donalds just can't help being nufags, talk about not censoring but don't mind censoring retarded Islam ideology because it is bad for society, cherry pick your positions

>>127865632
>government control of the economy. That's lefty as fuck
all goberments in the world are and always were leftist then
libertarianism is not right wing
is just libertarianism
right and left came from the french parliament after napoleon and none of them were libertarians

>>127859925
No shit, everything but ancien regime is left-wing.

>>127861968
You have it backwards. Anarchism is far right and totalitarianism is far left.

>>127865632
You are now aware that the economic system a state chooses to use has little to nothing to do with the right/left wing divide.
>>127865467
Pro tip: everyone supported Hitler at first.

Hitler belongs on the right. As does Codreanu, Mussolini, Franco, Mosley, etc. There is no denying this unless you fall into the materialist pitfalls of (((economy))).

>>127859925
No shit

I hate Nazis just as much as I hate Antifa, they are both retarded collectivist ideologies

>>127865892
No. I do not. Anarchy is the tearing down of the natural order. Do you honestly believe the far right is boils down to "everyone does whatever they want whenever they want for whatever reason they choose"? Anarchists, lolbertarians, and ancaps are all far-left.

>>127866127
>>>r/the_donald

>>127865977
Fascism and communism are just different flavors of totalitarianism, a far left ideology.

>>127859925
>still using a childish dichotomous political spectrum
kek

nazi and communist are all economically "left", they think industry should serve the nation, that the nation should serve it's people, and that people must work

leftists would agree if it didn't mean thinking too hard
they are very similar, as a fascist I Would rather support a communist than one of these new free market liberals

"gays can drop the plough, women don't have to bear the seed, kids should grow up to be vegetables and nobody pulls out the weeds"

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Since some people here don't seem to realize left/right and authoritarian/libertarian are separate axis.

>>127866918
Good idea, Thailand. If you just collectivize your rights and powers to the government, surely they won't misuse it and it will undoubtedly fix the problem of lazy people anyway.

>>127866518
Not far left though. Its literally far right. Liberty, equality, and fraternity are the basis of the far left.

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>>127867603
righttttt explain how that is not going on in America right now

>>127861653
The butthurt

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Don't Worry, Be Happy

>>127867603
>america talkig about ecconomic policy

if you want to talk about imperialism, usury, hegemony or private-public partnerships I'm all ears

colectivisation?
your states don't even follow federal law, half America is Mexican, California would float into the ocean if they could and new York sinks a foot into the sea every day

misuse power indeed, like the patriot act, NSA, CIA, Omaha, Waco, and a

fuck it, why bother
americans are like jews, you tell them these things and they turn up the next day pretending not to remember

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>>127859925
Often what /pol/ is angry about has nothing to do with left vs right but nationalism vs globalism, collectivism vs individualism, atheism vs theism, traditionalism vs progressivism, etc...

Marxism is globalist, collectivist, atheist and progressive whereas National Socialism is nationalist, collectivist, theist and traditionalist. They only have some small anti-capitalist/collectivist similarities between them, whereas they differ in almost all other categories, and even in the economic aspect they differ in implementation - where National Socialism is more about (as Hitler put it) "nationalizing the people" rather than nationalizing the industries - instilling in the people a sort of tribal duty and companionship that would make it sociologically impossible for them to exploit their countrymen without serious disapproval from the community. The state only intervened in business affairs when it was clear that exploitation was occurring, otherwise the market was generally left alone.

The Marxist keeps the bourgeoisie from stabbing the proletariat in the back by killing the bourgeoisie, whereas the Nazi forces them not to fight but to cooperate, either through behavioral conditioning via propaganda or force if absolutely necessary.

>>127868738
that is the sensible answer I was too lazy to type

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>>127859925
Lenin was anti-leftists too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/"Left-Wing"_Communism:_An_Infantile_Disorder

>>127868278
if Nat soc is the same as communism explain why Germany in the span of five years went from a hyper inflated poor country, to a booming country super power while in Soviet Russia they were millions dying of starvation and on top of that many Americans were dying also of starvation thanks to the market, thanks Wall street. https://youtu.be/MCNHaLziBQw

They were also degenerates.
Goebbels was a white knighting cuck who thought that extramarital affairs and slutty women were healthy for society.

The Nazis were only red-pilled when it came to jews, but they were still blue-pilled on many things. Most overrated ideology on /pol/.

>>127868738
>Marxism keeps the bourgeoisie by standing the proletariat

You need to research about the Frankfurt School

>>127859925
You can't convince /pol/ of that, man. Just stop trying.

>>127867939
>>127868667
Oh, I'm with you. I understand there are some shitty practices that go on in the U.S. that we're trying to stop now. That's why you should take my advice and NOT do what we did.

Daily reminder that OP is a fag

One of the first things the Nazis did upon taking power was to put leading socialists and even social democrats in Dachau concentration camp

>>127868738
I would like to add that I believe the National Socialist policy of nationalizing the people over nationalizing the industries is much better than the alternative. We can see even in our time that nationalizing industry is a crapshoot that can either make things marginally better for a short time (it never seems to last very long of course) or outright collapse immediately. Behavioral manipulation via media is very affective, and we can see this in our time as well, as it is what capitalists use to get you to buy worthless shit all the time. The mechanisms are already in place to institute a National Socialist economy via behavioral conditioning, we just need to wrest control of the media from the globalists and place it into the hands of nationalists so that our nationalist socialist message will be sent to the people instead of their globalist consumerist message. The human mind is far more malleable than any industry.

>>127868946
sums it up well
the nazis utilized leftism and proper incentives unlike the perverse russian ideology which wasnt an ideology at all but rather a way for elites to dupe retards into giving up everything.

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>>127870230
>Some 1984 shit
Fucking NatSoc faggots are retarded. They relish the lash and yoke.

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>>127869172
>You can't convince /pol/ of that, man. Just stop trying.
THIS
/pol/ is immune to obvious truths.

>>127869873
You fucking retard. It's obvious they would want to kill each other since they spoke to the same fucking group of people - workers.

You fucking westerners are clueless monkeys.No wonder Arabs do whatever the fuck they want with you.

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To hell with your Western Judeo-Capitalism.

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>>127871873
lmao this is your face genociders of the true aryans

we wuz white n shit

>>127871281
You're being manipulated regardless, would you rather be manipulated by people who care about your nation or people who don't?

>>127869873
you mean they codified their movements doctrine and unified their political leadership

none of those early people were dachau'd for being socialist, kek

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>>127871873
>>127872618
>>127872732
NSDAP quotes thread?

>>127860548
Intelligent speller and grammar checker

English
Of course, there are many leftists supporting strong families. In Czechoslovakia our communists supported every family with some money and their own flat. Now you get nothing.

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>>127872877

>>127872860

Polacks possess the corrupt hearts of Jews but with the intelligence of aboriginals.

This is why no civilized man would bother arguing with one, it would be like discussing physics with a chimpanzee.

>>127859925
Left and right stopped being relevant terms since the middle of the XIX century.
Even nationalism itself used to be a leftist ideology.

>>127873086
You can thank those chimpanzees that Europe even exists. You stupid imbecile. Poles stopped the: Tatars, Mongols, Turks, Bolsheviks.
What did the Germans do? Rape and pillage Europe.

1683 was a mistake. Fucking swarthy subhuman worm. And FYI, Poles are more Aryan than Germans, so stop larping.

>>127861349
>Socialism has both the values of a capitalistic society and the economic system of communism
What is that "economic system of communism"?

>>127872618
This one is good

>>127873086
This.
Poles are the brazilians of Europe, so to speak.

>>127872791
I want to establish a system that limits the amount of manipulation that can occur. You're asking me to rob Peter to pay Paul. I refuse and I suggest you do the same, because you're not talking about fixing a problem, you're merely talking about changing masters.

>>127873320

And it warms my heart that the the sub-abo race of Poland is soon to disappear from this world.

>Poland has a very low fertility rate, lower than the majority of European countries. There is a clear cultural difference – not so much in the level of wealth, but in the quality of life.

The total fertility rate (TFR) in Poland is one of the lowest among all the countries in the world – according to the United Nations, Poland is ranked 189 out of 200 countries and dependent territories in this respect. The TFR in Poland is 1.31. Countries with fertility rates lower than Poland include Slovakia, Greece, Hungary, Spain, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Portugal, Moldova, Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong and Chinese Macau (the latter has a TFR of 1.19).

http://www.financialobserver.eu/poland/poland-a-country-with-a-fertility-rate-lower-than-china/

The toll of degeneracy is extinction, embrace your doom, my subhuman friend.

Nature is calling.

>>127871281

if you fear the lash you are a degenerate
if you fear the yoke you are a dreg

national-socialists fear neither, the volk have been doing all the work and taking all the blows for years

internationaists have been siphoning our funds and troops, useless people take our food and labour, liberals pervert our education, gays molest our children, capitalists exploit our poor, progressives scatter us.

we don't fear the lash because we already pull, and we don't fear the lash because we bear the scars

beat up a muslim, go to jail for ten years "hate crime" the jew judge says
beat up a nazi? he was provoking you, it's practically self defense

fire a gay from his job? It's a discrace, fascist, narow minded uncaring scum
fire a nazi? protect the workplace, stop bullying, employer freedom, bad character

spend a week as a national socialist and you'l get it

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>>127873086
>>127873320
>>127873815
I cannot even begin to comprehend how fucking retarded one must be to make such claims.

>Germans sponsor the Bolsheviks
>Poles stop them before they reach West Europe in 1920
Yet we're the bad guys, right?

Your favela education is astonishing. If you don't know anything you should just shut your whore mouth.
>>127873895
The only thing that will stop existing is Germans. Lmao, stupid swarthy trash.

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>>127873895
Webm related. Your german masterrace.

>>127872618
>It's the opposite, trust us. We do it for your own good. Now take this pervitin and get to work, pleb.

>>127863110
>mfw I see a socialist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcqMcaeyAwo&feature=youtu.be

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>>127859925

National Socialism and Marxism are two hyper corrupted forms of Romanticism hence why both are political cancers.

>>127860548
old leftists did. But those kind of leftists are mostly old people and are on their way out,

>>127873895
if you breed like animals, wantonly and out of wedlock you will end up like india

contraception is for degenerates, if you have only one wife there is no need

thus a low fertility rate stops overcroding

high fertility rates are for the opportunistic breeders of the animal kingdom, cuckolds, philanderers, pedophiles, polygamists and those who let their children die as the people of africa do

>>127874222
check'em

What the fuck was going on in that video.

>>127874425
Just a few guys watching hentai

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>>127874084

The USA has redistributed more wealth than all others combined.

Just not for the benefit of Americans.

>>127873992
>Germans sponsor the Bolsheviks
That's called war. The revolutionaries surrendered.
>Poles stop them before they reach West Europe in 1920
Don't pretend you care about the West. You were just saving your own skin.

Remember that it was your people that allowed the jews to settle in your shitty Commonwealth in the first place.

>>127874513
>hentai in the streets not in the sheets
The fuck is the world coming to?

>>127859925
Chilean fascism best fascism!

>Murica is not socialist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzspsovNvII

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>The USA will collapse under the weight of its Trotskyite Globalist wealth redistribution.

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>>127874631
Like I said, don't speak to me.
You don't know anything about any subject.
>>127873895
Unlike Germans, we Poles are actually Aryan.

Pic related afro-abo-polack, the conqueror of France. Erich von Manstein, originally von Lewiński.

I'm two weight classes above you. Your education and knowledge ends at /pol/ memes.

>>127874574
You're assuming I believe everything the USA does is correct. It's not.

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>>127875328

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>>127875757
No, you poles are filthy slavs.
Sweden used to be our Stockpile for the best genetics. now its fucked.

Get the fuck back and scrub da potty to earn da złoty.

seriously, fuck off.

>>127876479
>melancholic memorialisation

Never say never again!

>>127875568
So what you are saying is that babyboomers and people who make shitty decisions need to fuck off?

>>127875757
>we Poles are actually Aryan.
You must be joking.
No one ever considered you aryan

>>127876656
>No, you poles are filthy slavs.
And so are East Germans then.
Prussians were fitlhy Slavs as well.

You can shittalk any way you want. Genetic research already sharted on your racist theories of XX century. We're more Aryan than you. Stay butthurt, Helmuth von Ahmedani.

>>127859925
hitler privatized many state monopolies

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>>127877114
It's not about consideration, you idiot.
It's about the fact.

Stay mad, favelamonkey. :)

>>127877131
East germans would be more germanic than slavs.

The only time slavs settled on East Germany was during the middle ages, before that there were east germanics and before them balts.
It was slavic-speaking only during a small period of time

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>>127871873
This

The only good capitalist is a dead capitalist

The double headed beast of Mammon must be put down

>>127875568
l2 statistics

the DOD funding is longitudinal
conflating DOD funding and the war on terror is like saying "your groceries cost $40,000 because you bought the car

>>127875568
graph with no source, no definitions, no baseline for selection. into the trash it goes with babys other pictures

>>127875328
this isn't the real set of figures, it also doesn't account for discrepancy between promised vs. delivered funds; and funds carried over

the elephant in the room is what qualifies as "aid", the US like most modern countries disguises air recipients through private partnerships

Australia for instance gave nothing to tonga I believe, but they gave to the clinton foundation who channeled the funds there

if they US gives weapons to a country is that "aid", if a US company sells food cheaply/at a loss to a developing nation is that "aid" or simply buisiness?

nothing grinds my gears more than abusing graphs and statistical instruments
it's like dressing an ambulance up as a tank or claiming to be an engineer when you're not

>>127875328
>most people will be mad at Israel
>Im more mad at the random Muslims/Africans getting aid for no reason. (Except Afghanistan, we know why they are)
Its just redistribution of wealth in which we gain no benefit from it.

>>127877263
>Haplogroups define ethnicity.

I suppose pakis are poles now. Both are r1a

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>>127859925
>different time
>different people
>different cultures
>different balacne of power
>similar situation

It's funny how everything is either exactly like or exactly the opposite of German national-socialism in the 1940s.


Inb4 "muhh current year meme" meme

>>127877468
There are different subclades, you absolute mental case.
>>127877371
But that's wrong you idiot.
lmao, the knowledge of a toster.

>>127859925
Private ownership, state capitalism

Literally kys you fucking nigger

>>127860243
I have to laugh everytime someone says nazi couldn't be leftist because they killed other leftists.
I bet if I stuck Isis and the Westboro Baptist church in a room together there would be violence. But how can that be if they are both religious right wing zealots?

>>127867928

>Liberty, equality, fraternity
>Literal meme-tier buzzwords

How about ya give examples in terms of policy making ya dingus.

My understanding is lefty = universal health care, welfare, high taxation.

If I'm wrong correct me with actual policy examples, not bumper sticker slogans no one will believe in.

>Leftism is about feeling the Bern

That's how you sound.

>>127877465
often it's the result of power pacts

you give to africa (which for you looks like charity), and an ally of yours who won't receive scrutiny (maybe egypt) gives money to someone else you want to support (non-state forces)

simply swapping who funds who shields you from pollitical attack

it all works out rather neatly

>>127876572
They studied epigenetics memory in mice, in the particular trauma of the separation from the parents before the impronta stage.

They couldn't help themselves and make it about the holocaust.

>>127877192
Hitler definitely wasn't a socialist ideologue. His goal was total war and private industry is much more innovative and efficient than state-controlled industry.

>>127877954
He wanted that private sector to listen to him unconditionally.

That's a centralized economy.

>>127876479
this is why im counter-semetic

Monarch programming related to MKultra. These threads are being destroyed in /pol. Right now the shilling is as intense as during the blockchain investigation. GET IN HERE! NOT A DRILL!!!!!!!!

>>>/bant/825399

Link has info concerning the investigation:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/svflt495bbom7iz/AACNiF55YEJUX3JDdaWVSgGLa/new%20data?dl=0

>>127868946
Germany build its industry thanks to credits. Without war it would go bankrupt.

>>127877653
>There are different subclades, you absolute mental case.
The original "aryans" were from Iran and North India. They and nothing to do with Poland.
>But that's wrong you idiot.
lmao, the knowledge of a toster.

My untermensch friend, may you tell me why it's wrong?
Pic related, germanic tribes in orange during 500B.C.

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>>127878660
Forgot the pic

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>>127878660
>>127878942
Here, educate yourself before you sperg out.
Just so you know, Germanic people weren't Germans.

>>127859925
Just because I believe Conservatives should be rounded up and gassed

>>127879150
Since when steppe people are aryans?

>>127880259
Aryans where originally steppe nomads

>>127880424
The ones in Iran and India, before they started to settle.

>>127859925
why are you trying to have reasonable debate with actual facts?