The future of the european union

>>127856898

The irony is that Britain only left because of Poland, and Poland will leave because we left.

also i think a lot of european countries are realising that the e.u is n longer just a trade agreement deal, they are realising that the e.u is a power hungry corporation bent on ending nationalism

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>>127856898

>>127856898
It's a possibility but I think they benefit enough to justify keeping it. There was also talk of adding Turkey a while back. It could go either way really.

>>127857010
so it is true that the e.u is falling apart and will eventually close down?

>>127857105
yea i was thinking about using that image but i wanted this thread to be serious

>>127857162

Almost certainly, us leaving will create a large funding gap.

That funding gap means the EU is now threatening to stop Poland's subsidies for non-compliance with refugees.

Once both the UK and Poland leave, the whole thing will start to unravel.

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>>127856898
The world is falling apart. The D-Day is near

>>127857135
what would it take for the e.u to completely go away?

>>127857304
That is what i am hoping will happen. the e.u loses countries and can't sustain itself and if poland keeps telling the e.u to fuk off then other countries won't see a threat from the e.u and hopefully not be scared to make decisions counter to e.u law

>>127857304
> threatening to stop Poland's subsidies for non-compliance with refugees
Incorrect.
They are threating us with fines for refugee thing, and to cut gibs for changes in Constitutional Court

>>127856898
Yes. It would have been within ten if Le Pen brought France out of it.

>>127856898
>amerishits dreams
in reality you are in fear because your retarded baboon you got elected is trying to start trade war with us and you can hardly compete since all your shits are comming from mexico and china and rest of your economy is war

>>127858229

Ture, but basically now that the EU has a funding gap, it will stop the gibs. Stopping the gibs will cause more countries to leave.

>>127858720
Our gibs stop in 2020, no matter if Brexit happens or not. No reason to stay in this 4th reich anymore.

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>>127856898
The EU will inevitably collapse because the banking system it uses is unsustainable. Eurozone debt keeps mounting up in the poorer countries and funnels back to the ECB. The only way out of this debt is for countries to default on their debt to the ECB, return to their old currency and devalue it significantly. The EU won't allow member states to do this though, so leaving the political union first is the only to get out of the paralysing grip of the economic union. Greece were going to do this years ago but the EU replaced their leader with a puppet who would keep taking the bailouts. Problem is now that the bailout money has ran out.

>>127856898
>>127856898
>Who here thinks the the european union will be closed down within 20 years?
No reasonable person thinks that.

Also! The EU popularity surge after Brexit so apparently Europeans are glad that the trash voted to leave

it was clear from the start, if one country leaves, it will fall apart. Thanks Brits, we maybe next

Pretty sure the last elections in The Netherlands, Austria, France, and the upcoming elections in Germany with the popularity of Merkel are some sign that the EU is actually doing pretty well.

>>127856898
The EU will not completely vanish but the trend we've seen will continue: more and more countries are dissatisfied when important decisions are being made somewhere else and they want to have more control over their own fate.
Years ago (many years ago) they tried to establish a common foreign policy and a banking union and so on. But these things have met fierce resistance in countries and won't go through.
I don't know what will be left in 20 years. Probably the free trade stuff, the regulations and some of the infrastructure funds. Some of the other things might be around but riddled with exceptions and countries parting away from them now and then. We see it with Schengen and the budget restrictions right now.

How does mainlanders coordinate now that the UK is gone? They still read liberal British newspapers and build opinions on that?

Europe of the late 19th century had more cross-connections that today's americanized droids.

>>127862701
That's an interesting post.

>They still read liberal British newspapers and build opinions on that?
Mainlanders never read liberal British newspapers. The UK just wasn't that important "on the continent". There was no europe wide paper in circulation that had significant influence on the public opinion.
In fact that was one of the most deficient predictions of the EUrophiles: they were expecting a public opinion to crystallize within a few years after the EU/the Euro/the Lisbon treaty was established but it never did. It all stayed national.

>Europe of the late 19th century had more cross-connections that today's americanized droids.
For the bourgeousie that's correct. And to some degree even for the proletarians. The worker's parties were having more coordination across Europe as they have now, despite being formally organized in a common party in the EU parliament.
The nationalliberals were always watching each other in the second half of the 19th century. In Germany (Prussia) they wanted to bring in some influence from the British parliamentary system which Bismarck didn't like at all.

>>127856898
>Its another american with anti EU thread