uh...remind me again why we're against the climate deal?

>>127848299
Climate change is a hoax

>>127848299
Liberals are for it so we have to hate it.

>>127848299
>implying climate change actually exists and is not just another socialist attempt to redistribute wealth away from oil companies and into hippy green technology

>>127848299

Because "climate change is a Chinese hoax to hurt the US economy" - Donald Trump

Every day I enjoy the US heading for one step closer to total collapse.

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>>127848299

Republicans don't care about the environment. This should not be a surprise.

>>127848299
it's waaaaaaaaay too late to fix climate change. two decades ago maybe, but gregorian calendar year #2017? lolno

>>127848299
No one cares about climate, it's all virtual signalling.

>>127848299
It is obviously a bad deal. Trump would never go for a deal so bad. He is an expert on deals, you see. He saw this shitty deal, did a 360, and walked away.

What future does the rest of the world have anyway? A shit colored one that's what.

>>127848299
>>127848426
>we

when will this stop? is it reddit?

>>127848299
because climate change is bullshit

>>127848447
oil's finite though. it's going to run out sooner or later

>>127848563
>Austria

I couldn't imagine your pathetic life hoping for the demise of a country that literally gives zero fucks about you

>>127848563
No one hopes for Austria to collapse cause it's already so irrelevant

>>127848299
What exactly is the climate deal?

can someone here disprove climate change for me?

>>127848299
Because it is a fucking pointless agreement that only cripples the West.

Take a look at China. They signed it too, would you say it achieved shit all over there?

>>127848299
The climate deal isn't about climate change, just like obamacare wasn't about healthcare. these huge initiatives are designed to make huge chunks of the US economy subservient to a global economy. America First isn't just some nice slogan. We can have sensible climate policies in our country without surrendering $2 trillion worth of industry.

>>127848299
Because it's just virtue-signalling garbage.

If those retards were serious about combatting climate change, they would make a push for nuclear power, not this "solar freaking roadways" scam.

Not to mention that China is the biggest polluter.

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The Paris Climate Accord was another one of these feel-good deals where the US taxpayer carried the lion's share of the cost.

America first, dammit.
A side benefit is all the leftists who will have strokes, coronaries, and mental breakdowns following this news. Fuck them and the enviro-socialists money grab scheme.

I disagree with his stance but I guess if everyone else signs it and cucks their economies, the US gets a competitive advantage with no restrictive obligations, while they clean up the climate better at the same time.

>>127848299
It puts no obligations on China for like 30 years. Meanwhile the US has to hold to even stricter standards on the promise that China will eventually give a fuck.

If we are going to force anti pollution laws in global markets then we all meet the same standards and high costs or we can't fairly compete.

This is an issue I still wholeheartedly support Trump on. Dems made some shit tier agreements before they left.

>>127848788
>citation needed
You have no clue how much oil rest under our nation, do you? It's enough to last us for a very long time, even at double our current consumption rate.
>and there is still more being found every day

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Fucking orange moron.

>hurr fuk the environment and shit we gotta make JORBS
Make jobs in something other than braindead manual labor, you fuckhead.

Oh wait, that's all that your supporters are capable of doing.

>>127848356
*Man made

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Because Climate Change is just Yuropoor Virtue Signaling and China never actually agrees to the terms it says it does

>>127848299
these climate summits are just theatre, they agree on whatever emmisions percentage to reach by 20XX then don't ever bother to meet it
Trump is just preemptively shitting on it

>>127848890
>>127848957
>>127848821
>>127848788
>>127848749
>127848749
>>127848749
>>127848738
>>127848714
>>127848594
>>127848299
Pay carbon tax debnts

>>127849068
If it's man-made, we are fucked already.

>>127848299
it's a handbook for a new new world order you stupid nigger
> 2017 and you still think shit is actually about what they call it on the front page
you stupid nigger
> polar bears! therefore: here are the winners and losers and the new powers we have

>>127848788
If we stop using it for base load power and only for transport that'd help a shitload
BUILD MORE REACTORS

>>127849000
The nice thing about globalist plans is how easily they fall apart. All it takes is one bigger nation pulling out of it and they are already fucked, since they need EVERYONE to be on board with it.

>>127848299
They all talk about climate change, impose on us shitty fucking agreements, but the change is nowhere to be seen.

All that money that goes into "climate research" and they have yet to yield any consistent results.

Biggest scam of the century

>>127848426
nigger it has nothing to do with climate change
all to do with wealth redistribution

>>127848299

no country has EVER paid or adhered accordingly to ANY climate deal ever created. It's an event for countries to pat themselves on the back with.

>>127848788
True, but natty gas is the new American oil. We're going to make sandniggers our bitches for the next 300 years, as long as we can keep our cucks and cunts in line.

>>127848299
Climate change is a hoax. Get with the program, nigger.

>>127848299
Climate change is a leftists conspiracy, made up to weaken the west's economies and promote green bs.

>>127849040
>run out sooner OR later

do you even logic?

>>127849112
Pay carbon tax debts to who? Why is it good?

>>127848957
This opinion is not grounded in reality.

>>127848299
>1 post by this ID

reported for slide thread

>>127849009
>>127849058

Always funny to watch which side is throwing around platitudes and which side at least skims on the surface of providing some details.

Climate change is a hoax made by the nuclear plants lobby.

That's why Germany loves it so much, and enviromentalists are paid with nuke money whitewashed by different companies and NGO.

Climate hoax is NWO scheme.

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>>127849296
Pay.

>>127848299
1st scenario- Climate change has nothing to do with humans. This is because the climate always changes naturally.
2nd scenario-Climate change is happening and it's because of humans: Recycling, taxing carbon emissions, other regulations, etc won't do shitee to stop it then

>>127849009
You also forget all the "gender, immigration, minority" bullshit that has NOTHING to do with the climate in the agreement

and remember
Climate Scientology is the state religion of the EU and we don't buy into the bullshit

>>127848788
Yeah, same as the sun, it's finite as well. There's a LOT of oil, dude.

It's not enough to fix a damn thing. If it was an effective measure I'd be more concerned. It's virtue signaling on an international scale and an excuse for no actual effective action. "We signed Paris so we've done everything we can".

I still don't agree, but it's not a terrible loss.

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>tfw everyone is obsessed in investing to save the planet when we're already planning on colonizing the next one

Let little donnie boy tell you the alternative facts to climate change
Fuck those scientists, what do they know?
You mean to tell me you dont get your climate change information from billionaire retard?
its all a hoax created by china.

>>127848788
They keep finding new sources.
Audi has developed a method of making synthetic diesel using aluminium and CO2.
When oil really starts running out, they'll synthesise petrol and announce they've found a way to make this synthetic petrol climate neutral, meaning transportation using it won't produce more CO2 than its production has consumed.

Big Oil won't just relinquish command of the energy market.

1) PROOF TO ME CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL

2) IF IT IS REAL, EXPLAIN TO ME WHY WE NEED SHITTY WINDMILLS AND SHITTY SOLAR PLANTS INSTEAD OF STRONG AND RELIABLE NUCLEAR ENERGY

Because it's a major step towards globalisation

It opens up the world to all kinds of stupid shit, like carbon tax
>>127848939
watch this guys videos

https://www.youtube.com/user/corbettreport/search?query=climate

How about US Congress approves and not the President.

Shocking that I dont want to be entangled with Europeans.

>>127848299
How do we know that it's us causing the earth getting hotter and not just the sun getting hotter?

>>127849073
Not even Germany (which is heavily pushing this shit) gives a fuck about it. We were supposed to lower our CO2 emissions, instead we shut down our nuclear power plants and increased our coal consumption.

These agreements are doing fuck all and even if they were actually being enforced, they still make way too many concessions to the worst offenders to have any impact.

It's nothing but playing pretend, so you can as well cut that shit out.

>>127849411
This.

>>127849396
Fuck off, Achmed. You're just as bad for this planet as Trump is.

because while Obama said he believed in American exceptionalism, Trump actually does.

>>127848299
Because it will, by design or by fault, move all industry to the countries that did not sign it. Goodbye middle class, hello slaves.

>>127849068
No, climate change is bullshit, period.
Man or not man made, the predictions have not come true and will never come true.
The basic premise is completely false and relies on people being too stupid to examine their claims about CO2 and warming oceans increasing humidity on Earth causing more warming.

>>127849192
we already do that you nonce, almost no electricity generation is done with petroleum, it's all natural gas which isn't the same thing

>>127848299
Its just as bad as TPP but with bullshit climate crap as a cover

How is any country supposed to trust dealing with Anerica when any deal we make only has a guaranteed shelf life of four years?

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>>127849410
Lol you got me. Cheers.

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>>127848299
Oy vey goyim is that carbon dioxide you're exhaling? that's a greenhouse gas that will melt the ice caps! you don't want the sea levels to rise 6 million feet do you? it's the primary cause of global warming! this needs to be taxed to save the planet! you are now required to wear this breathalizer that will determine the amount of carbon poison you produce and will be charged an according number of shekels!

>>127849427
That was the G7 resolution IIRC, not the Paris Climate Agreement

>>127849818
You still get CO2 from burning NG

>>127849972
I would assume you make the deal with congressional approval, so you would need congressional approval to back out of it

>>127849972
They have to make the deal good enough that it becomes a treaty ratified by a supermajority in our congress.

Founding fathers made it difficult to prevent president using treaties as a way to make law easily.

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>>127848299
The Paris Accord- in a nutshell-
Carbon emissions are "bad" and hurting the environment.
Countries that have the highest carbon emissions must pay money to the countries that have the lowest carbon emissions.
The only way out of paying for your "carbon tax" is to close factories, industries and utilities that use fossil fuels until the carbon emissions are at a ridiculously low level.
In effect- wealth redistribution in the disguise of "caring about the environment!"

>>127848299

Climate change is a hoax. It's just another way for our government to leech tax dollars from us, while hamstringing job opportunities in the process. It is a way of taking even more away from us, the excuse being "but it's for our children." Just like how they take away our tax dollars to give to degenerates who whore around and refuse to get jobs, because "it's for the children."

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Why doesnt everyone just update their facebook profile pic to some blue skies filter and use the hashtag #imwithearth. That usually fixes things, right?

>>127848299

It's literally a modern day Indulgence that basically fucks over the mass of people so the 1% can maintain their lifestyles without damage the environment further.

It's even in the literature ("unfortunately not everyone will be able to benefit in the future") and it doesn't address the central problem - overpopulation - which continues unabated and SUPPORTED by the same people pushing the new taxes. They not only support overpopulation but also supporting bringing in billions of people into a consumerist market that contributes to climate change.

It's like a person making you pay extra taxes for water to put out a fire as they walk around throwing gasoline on it.

I mean, my country for instance is just beyond fucking retarded;

>We must solve climate change
>By importing millions of third world savages and giving them the means to consume at a rate on par with first worlders
>By building massive tax payer subsidized """""renewable"""""" energy sources that don't work and rely on coal power to keep going (but don't worry - if you're wealthy you can purchase """"offsets"""")
>By completely ignoring that we have the worlds largest supply of uranium and the most stable continent on the planet, and multiple facilities already established to deal with nuclear waste and refusing to build clean nuclear power stations
>By gutting our resources sector, literally our biggest sector outside of Ag and renting space to Chinks

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>>127850180
Oh but nations that actually pollute a shit ton like china are exempt for 30 years or whatever such shit

>>127848714
>360 and walk away
>full circle and walks away
Just another proof that drumf voters are fucking retarded. You voted a baboon into office, because thats what all drumpf voters all: Stupid baboons.

>>127848299
How will David Mayer de Rothschild react to this?

Climate change redpills (not denial, actual redpills):

>Climate change is 100% real and man-made, but the scientists who devote their lives to it overexaggerate the long-term danger because they will never be this relevant again after climate concern passes

>Climate change is not a Chinese "hoax" but the Chinese want everyone to make it humanity's focus simply because they want to manufacture all of the world's solar/wind/etc equipment

>Similarly, the United States would rather use a plurality of energy solutions, both renewable and not, because that is best for their economy. There is enough natural gas in the US to supply the globe's energy needs for centuries

>All energy-related "environmental" pacts are actually loose trade agreements, none of which benefit the United States, but greatly benefit China

There's that gay saying "even if it wasn't real, the worst that could happen is that the environment is cleaner" and I do agree with that, but it's also naive because these environmentalists are far more concerned with making money than saving the environment. I've seen the bullshit first hand, they will make up shit under the cover of it being "for the environment" no matter how much it fucks over someone else.
It's great that we're using unleaded gasoline and more fuel-efficient cars. I'm not fucking kidding here, my biggest wish is that I am on my deathbed and everything on the planet is powered by the sun and wind. But this global warming shit is from the scummiest, greediest side of environmentalism and instead of actually finding ways to save the environment, they will simply fuck over people who are just trying to make a living, and purposely not save the environment because there would be no more business if it really was saved.

>>127850303
>>>127848714
>>360 and walk away
>>full circle and walks away
>Just another proof that drumf voters are fucking retarded. You voted a baboon into office, because thats what all drumpf voters all: Stupid baboons.
Lurk more post less faggot

>>127850477
>Climate change is 100% real and man-made

Nice ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''red pill'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

>>127850303
Exactly how new are you to this site?

>>127848299
The Paris deal is complete feel good bullshit anyway. Non-binding. The only country that would be expected to follow it is the US.
Plus transferring jobs from countries that actually monitor actual pollution to countries that don't (China, India) isn't going to do a damn thing to help the environment.
And no, human produced CO2 isn't a problem. Pretending it is and taking attention away from real environmental problems is what harms the earth.

>>127850180

This is the part that pretty much negates it for me.

It's the part no one can explain away.

>You can buy your way out of polluting!

The carbon is still emitted. The damage is still done. Whether a nigger in Chad gets a new pair of Jordans as a result and Leonardo DiCaprio can't afford an extra 3 yachts is irrelevant at the end of the day, because the damage is still being done.

>>127850481
>"even if it wasn't real, the worst that could happen is that the environment is cleaner"

That's the thing though, that's not even the case. China wouldn't have to adhere to these rules for decades to come, which just means that all industry will fuck off to China and run their plants with no filtering at all.

It's not just "doing nothing in the worst case", it is actually damaging the environment even in the best case.

>>127850126
you do, but you specifically mentioned oil, which is not NG and not generally used for electrical power generation

i too think we should go nuclear but we don't use oil for the same things

>>127848299

But, you know. Whatever. If you want to dress like a homeless person with your "environmentally conscious" clothing, ride around on your little bicycle, and be taxed to bejesus and back (I'm assuming you have a job) while all of the people on top pushing for this bullshit wear their nice clothes and travel the world in their private jets, please, just go about your life being a degenerate hippy.

>>127850477
>There is enough natural gas in the US to supply the globe's energy needs well over the 2 degree warming limit

>>127849068
It's bullshit.

>>127850477

The second point was one of my favorites during the election;

>Be Clinton
>Muh Solar Industry, Muh Renewables Industry!

>So...Chinese manufactured equipment installed by Mexicans?

>Gee, what a boon for the U.S. citizen.

Climate change agreement is just another TAX for white people to pay.
The enviroment is polluted by asia and india.

Shitposting aside, climate change is happening, and it's sped up by human effect, but is still something that the planet can take and has taken. Nature doesn't care about anything or anyone it just is. 99% of all species died off during the ice age for example.

Trump and conservatives would rather be competitive and aggressive with our output and economy than tie any of it up. Especially by big government which is notorious for being inefficient. Let the consumer and factory owners decide their policy, within reason. Also other countries like China pollute 10x what we do, so globally it's not a big difference maker.

>>127850477
One more:

>The ONLY statement that has near-100% consensus among scientists is "climate change exists". The mid-to-long-term effects of climate change are heavily speculated and debated, coming nowhere close to consensus

The consensus meme is fucking infuriating and needs to be stopped

>>127848299

Let me give you the full gestalt, OP, hopefully these numbers will help our cause. These are the facts.

The Paris (((agreement))) will devastate the US economy whilst having negligible impacts on climate change, even if you believe in that Great Jewish Hoax.

In essence, the agreement will eliminate 6 MILLION (oy vey) jobs, and eradicate over 2 trillion GDP in America. In return for? Did you know that if the US completely cut off its fossil fuel emissions, by 2050 global temperatures would be reduced by 0.2 degrees Celsius. Yes, that's it. And the Paris agreement won't do this; only it will stifle the growth of fossil fuels. So, its impacts on "climate change" will literally be negligible.

In other words, the climate pact is literal suicide. There are so many other issues with it that its not even worth getting into; notably, the pact actually allows developing countries like India to INCREASE their CO2 emissions, all while the US, with a fraction of India's population, is forced to destroy its own economy.

There is literally no scenario in which this can be considered a positive for the US. Literally the only argument from the left is it is a "GREAT FIRST STEP" to solving the apparently holo-level impact of climate change in the future. So they are making an emotional argument, not based on fact, and the assumption that nations would desire to hurt themselves even more, much much more in fact, to attempt to cure this "problem" of climate change which many scientists believe incurable, even those who subscribe to the Jew Theory.

And that, in a nutshell, is why Trump is pulling out of it. And God, you should be grateful. You should all be thankful. I only hope to be next.

Source: see Heritage Foundation's analysis of the Paris Agreement & various other think tanks

>>127850593

This is how you know it's a scam.

>What about nuclear?
>....nah. Nah, not right now.

>What are you proposing?

>If you produce 10 Units of Carbon Poison, you have to pay a 100 million dollar tax to Zimbabwe. If you produce 8 Units you don't have to pay shit.

>Sweet. We'll produce 10, and just cut a chunk out of Medicare and send it on over to Zimbabwe for Mugabe to blow on a contract with Zuckerberg Solar Farms (we'll have to build them a few times because the natives keep smashing the panels since they believe they are stealing their souls and that's why they can't get erections after a day of drinking)

>>127848356
FPBP

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>>127850265
Add a penis to that picture and it is perfect.
(do it, and I'll paste it as my profile pic)

>>127850838

The 2 degree warming limit will be breached regardless, since the Carbon Emissions proposals don't reduce Carbon Emissions. They simply make you pay more for them.

>>127850302
China would back out if they weren't exempt.

climate change is a jewish hoax. what happen to that ginormous hole in our ozone layer again? gone. because it magically fixed itself.

>>127850743
That's true too, but our industry isn't that bad for the environment. Vehicles cause a lot of the pollution. This would be helped greatly by solar/electric car hybrids, but environmentalists have no interest in pushing for any of that. They love dirty industry because they can just tax it more. There's no money in clean energy.

Economic growth > Preventing climate change

>>127850303

That's not how you pronounce "shibboleth".

>>127848594
Tell the chinese to pay a fucking carbon tax,tell india to pay a carbon tax.
White people dont need to pay these stupid carbon taxes.

>>127848299
no such thing as big industry and clean air.

well this>>127848356

but even if it wasn't, what did the paris climate deal achieve? other than $100k/plate dinners.
The earth is still getting warmer, CO2 emissions are rising, nobody is stopping China or India - it didn't do jack

>>127851324
>>127850743
quick rundown on why china is exempt?

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>the predictions have not come true

oh fuck off.
read some actual science, and not time magazine you stupid denier fucks.

>>127850303
never post again

>>127851505
Because otherwise they wouldn't agree to sign it and without China's signature on it it wouldn't even have virtue signalling value.

>>127848299
Because it enslaves humanity to globalists without even reducing pollution in any way.

China has zero environmental policies at all and it's still a perfectly beautiful and natural country.

>>127848299
climate change is for faggots

>>127851411
Most people have catalatyc converters on their cars the average person is doing theirpart.
The shitskins are polluting in third world countrys and white first world people get taxed too much.

>>127851505
China reeee'd over being a country in development and climate control in China would be considered economic sabotage and an act of war.

>>127851505
I assume because they would not sign the treaty otherwise. As their industry was back then they could not get pollution levels down without it affecting growth, and that is unacceptable.

China does seem to invest heavily in green energy these days.

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>>127848299
BREAKING: MORE FAKE NEWS
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/869903459511918592
It's really some great "sources" these jackasses have.
New York Times BTFO.

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>>127848356
fpbp

We pay other people money to not fix our problems...sounds like a crock of shit

Nature will be fine, it has survived worse than what we are doing now to the planet, we can't say the same about the rest of humanity though.

If you believe climate change has no basis behind it, you might as well be considered a tacit supporter of depopulation.

So much for the 'muh evil elites are trying to kill us all' schtick.

>>127848788
Oil is geolithc. There is more on earth than we will ever need. Oil Does not come from fossils.

>>127851179
Fuck it, another:

>Renewable energy helps alleviate climate change, but is not actually clean. Renewable equipment manufacturing produces guaranteed byproducts, which are horrible for the local environment. China is willing to take the hit for Western nations because they do not actually care about the environment and they have an army of impoverished citizens willing to get sick for a barely living wage.

>>127848356
fpbp

>>127848299
If you read the deal, you'll find it has almost nothing to do with climate.

>>127848426
Scary to think what the solutions will be to a problem that doesn't exist.

>>127849058
Isn't Puerto Rico bankrupt because cheap imports from countries that don't have to follow climate treaties destroyed what little industry you had? If anything you should be happy that this makes you somewhat competitive again.

>>127848356
fpbp
lets stay stupid

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IT IS THE SUN XDDDDDDDDDDD

reminder that CO2 has NEVER gone into the atmosphere at this rate.

280ppm to 410ppm in a little more than 200 years.

If you think there will not be consequences, then you really are a god damned retard.

>MUH CLIMATES CHANGE BEFORE

Yes, it has.
But never, ever at this rate, apart from maybe the impact event that killed the dinosaurs.
Life cannot keep up.
The climate system is destabilizing.

Climate Scientology is the state religion on the EU

We reject this cult and false religion
so yeah fuck off EU

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DADDY, NO!!!!!

I am told the pressure on @POTUS from Ivanka to stay in Paris has been intense.

https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/869890727861465088

>>127849774
So how would ice ages end then?

>>127848356
So you are saying that over 9000% of SCIENCE is wrong? Climate is clearly on a spectrum and currently the Earth identifies as warm.

>>127848299
The deal includes statues to maintaining female job mobility and trans issues. Read the fucking thing, only half of it is about climate.

>>127851505
China is a fucking developing country

>>127850895
YOU SAID MEXICO IN A WAY THAT COULD BE CONSTRUED AS NEGATIVE YOU ARE A FUCKING RACIST FUCK YOU FUCK YOU RRRREEEEEEEEEEE

>>127848299
Because it's a mere symbol nobody sticks to and none of the second world countries care anyway

>>127848299
Cedes control of US sovereignty to international consortium.

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>>127848299
>pay the carbon tax and another taxes for climate change goy

>>127848299
because the economy. Elon Musk is our only hope now...

ITT

>people deny the objective fact that Homo sapiens are the first specie known to earth that can accelerate global climate trends

>>127852686

oh shut the fuck up and get run over by a truck

>>127852241
How old is he planet?
How long have we been accurately recording the planet temperature?
Can you prove we are accurately recording the planet's temperature?
If the amount of data we have accurately collected a large enough sample to draw any actual conclusions?
What is the "best" temperature of the planet?
What computer model software was used in predicting the warming of the planet?
What are the positive effects of a warmer planet?
What are the predicted negative effects of a warmer planet?
How can you prove these predictions of negative effects of a warmer planet are accurate?
What will the weather be like next week in your area?
What was the weather prediction last week of this week's weather?
How accurate was it?
You are a sheep and a faggot

Climate Scientology is the state religion on the EU

We reject this cult and false religion so yeah fuck off EU

>>127852571
Bullshit strawman

Anyone against the deal is dumb as fuck

>>127848999
This

It isn't even a serious attempt at fixing climate change, its pointless hippy faggotry that will only damage the economy.

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It doesnt matter. Find out who killed Seth Rich.

>>127852712
>objective fact

You're an actual retard and most likely a faggot

Even if climate change (as presented by the fake news) is real, this agreement is just a very shitty deal...

>>127852549
Fuck those filthy fucking river niggers.

>>127851505
The entire fucking thing is designed expressly for China's benefit. China loses nothing AND gets to sell renewable energy equipment. Other countries need to gimp their economy AND buy equipment from China.

The reality is that this is the TRUE worst trade deal in the history of trade deals, maybe ever.

>>127852589
That picture is complete hogwash.
Scientists never predicted an ice age. There was a brief debate on cooling vs warming. But nobody other than Time Magazine and the Mail predicted an ice age.

Nobody says that sea level rise will wipe 'nations off the map'. However a 1-2 metre rise by 2100 would cause unspeakable damage to huge populated areas and devastate nations like Bangladesh

The rainforests have nothing to do with climate change. However they are being destroyed and climate change will cause wildfires to make this worse

The himalayan glaciers are rapidly receding

Global warming will cause fewer hurricanes, this has been the consensus for some time. These will be more powerful however.

The arctic could very well undergo a blue ocean event very, very soon. This is a VERY serious event with huge consequences due to the positive feedbacks caused by loss of albedo and permafrost melt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmECHrOcFlc&list=PL82yk73N8eoX-Xobr_TfHsWPfAIyI7VAP&index=11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nJuAslQPaY&index=16&list=PL82yk73N8eoX-Xobr_TfHsWPfAIyI7VAP
Videos on this subject

>>127852589
I'm glad someone else remembers that ice age bullshit

https://youtu.be/L_861us8D9M

>>127852835

you people are fucking insufferable. like I give a shit about a dead snitch berniefaggot. yes, he was killed by the DNC for being a leaker bitch - at least they have the balls to take care of their problems.

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>>127852712

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>>127848299
>https://unfccc.int/resource/docs/2015/cop21/eng/l09.pdf
>Acknowledging that climate change is a common concern of humankind, Parties
should, when taking action to address climate change, respect, promote and consider their
respective obligations on human rights, the right to health, the rights of indigenous peoples, local communities, migrants, children, persons with disabilities and people in vulnerable
situations and the right to development, as well as gender equality, empowerment of
women and intergenerational equity,

interesting stuff in a climate deal right?

>>127851761
Came here to post pic related...

>>127853129
FIND ONE SINGLE SCIENTIFIC JOURNAL PREDICTING AN ICE AGE

I AM WAITING

>>127852241
See >>127851761 pic related and STFU

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>>127853082
Spock said, "Climate experts believe the next ice age is on its way"

https://youtu.be/L_861us8D9M?t=1m39s

>>127853082
See >>127851761

>>127848299
It's shit and doesn't work.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47bNzLj5E_Q

>>127853490
google
The coming ice age

stupid EU faggot
Climate Scientology is the state religion on the EU

We reject this cult and false religion so yeah fuck off EU

>>127852935
Surely Western nations thought of this beforehand? If you mean to move from fossil fuels to green energy. then it is logical to have domestic production(or atleast regional) necessary equipment. Chinese cannot have jewed us that badly.

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>>127853082
Our country is far more threatened by the current demographic replacement policies of our government than any of that bollocks you government teat sucking kike cunt. Get murdered by a Paki, poofter.

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>>127848884
It's funny cause it's true

>>127848426
Liberals are also for breathing air. Should we stop breathing air to spite them?

>>127854018
What a shitty, loaded question.

Clearly the solution is to have them stop breathing air.

>>127853547
That whole image is absolutely fucking retarded.

'it was hotter in the past so its fine now'

How long do you fucking think humans have existed?

We are NOT SUITED TO the climate from hundreds of millions of fucking years ago

Past climate changes were caused primarily by a combination of

>Solar activity
>CO2 and GHG levels
>Milankovitch cycles

Solar activity steady for 3 decades whilst temperatures rise
Milankovitch cycles need thousands of years to have an impact
CO2 increasing at a higher rate than any in the history of the planet (EVER including the fucking Permian mass extinction)

No, I'm sure we aren't causing it
I'm sure we'll be fine

https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
> This ancient, or paleoclimate, evidence reveals that current warming is occurring roughly ten times faster than the average rate of ice-age-recovery warming.3

http://www.pnas.org/content/111/9/3316.abstract
>High-precision timeline for Earth’s most severe extinction

We are fucking the planet even faster than the end permian extinction event.
Get your head out of the fucking sand. You arrogant cunt.

First it was global warming and now they call it climate change. Tomorrow they will call it global cooling.

Why should we accept paying carbon taxes to Al Gore and implementing Agenda 21 which is the real reason for the agreement?

>>127853853
>Surely Western nations thought of this beforehand?
Yes, their leaders require votes to be reelected.

>domestic production
kek, no one has the infrastructure and blatant disregard for their local environment that China has.

>Chinese cannot have jewed us that badly.
And how.

>>127854080
this. plus we were breathing air years before they were, we got dibs on air.

>>127848888

>>127853129
>>127853684
uhhhh

That is a documentary
Not a fucking scientific journal.

A DOCUMENTARY!

http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/2008BAMS2370.1

>Free Access The Myth of the 1970s Global Cooling Scientific Consensus
>An enduring popular myth suggests that in the 1970s the climate science community was predicting “global cooling” and an “imminent” ice age, an observation frequently used by those who would undermine what climate scientists say today about the prospect of global warming. A review of the literature suggests that, on the contrary, greenhouse warming even then dominated scientists' thinking as being one of the most important forces shaping Earth's climate on human time scales.

>>127849250
BINGO BINGO BINGO
THIS GUY GETS IT
Hurr durr lets spend $100 Trillion dollars over 100 years for the statistical equivalent of zero impact on climate change

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>>127854405
They had global cooling in the 70s.

Far scarier scenario IMO.

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Retarded Trumpers.

Find me a single example in human history of globalization failing the primary states in an agreement. Your fear is removing industrial capacity from developed nations when that is literally the only modern way left to grow an economy without forcing your citizens to fuck 24/7. It takes a special kind of Economic ignorance to spin this into a 'wasting taxpayers' money argument. Economic theory is sporadic and volatile, but this is one of the few basic tenants that's universally agreed upon: growth is good.

>>127848299
We are planning to weaponize global warming against the Chinese coastlines.

>>127853806
Nice false dichotomy.

Most of the climate change denial stems from propaganda created by the petrodollar industry, which has always been in bed with the Rothschilds and was pushed by the Rockefellers.

Only a complete retard would think the science behind climate change was entirely funded/faked by the individuals in your image.

>>127851761
Interesting...

>>127849149
>>127849774
>>127850839
Climate change is real though, seasons, ice ages, even the output of the sun affects it. 'Global warming' as pushed by Shill Nye is what is bullshit

>>127848356
Fpbp

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>>127854635
Late Bronze Age collpased horribly due to the fragility globalization of the day engendered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRcu-ysocX4

Your statements offer no supporting evidence. Learn to think.

>>127849040

>Needs a citiation to prove natural resources are finite

Just admit you want to see an energy crisis so you can post your Ron Paul images.

>>127848299
so he can make more money, you peasant

>>127854697
Sweetie, who lobbies for/pays for this research? How are the findings publicized nationally and globally? A desperate gang of anti-Rothschild rebels? Really?

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>>127848299
Well is it effective? You're falling for branding way too much. Just because it wants to protect the enviroment, doesn't mean it DOES. I'm by no means an expert in this whole climate debate, but the way liberals have elevated this whole ordeal into dogma is what made me sceptical in the first place. You're not even allowed to debate or negotiate, you either agree and comply or they'll brand you as a dangerous idiot, to the point where Bill Nye the Weimar Guy even suggested throwing climate sceptics into prison. Gives the impression that a lot of power and money depends on this narrative, which forced me into being sceptical about it.

Its not even that unlikely to be a hoax. Its not hard to film a melting piece of ice and set it to sad music, to paint a picture of a melting planet. Apparently there's a long history of global hoaxes where people made up impending catastrophies so that they could sell their solutions to them, I think Molyneux had a video about this.

>>127854799
It is 'interesting' but doesn't disprove AGW.

The whole image is claiming that 'it is natural' so we shouldn't try to stop it.

Current warming is entirely driven by man made CO2. This should be obvious just from looking at the trend of CO2 vs temperature since the industrial revolution.

It is very easy to understand. The things that impacted climate in the distant past (solar activity, the earths orbit, the position of the continents etc) do NOT explain current warming

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>>127854697
>Thinks taking a "nuanced view" of a scam is the enlightened position.

>>127848563
Go back to fucking a kangaroo and slapping shrimps on the barbie

>>127848299
I don't think anyone can defend Trump here, and even if they do, its the type of people who will defend him no matter what.

Being climate friendly shouldn't collide with your political views, you're simply adjusting your views in favor of defending Trump.

>>127848299
For fucks sake. If anyone says this is "liberal tears", you're a moron. We all live on this planet and we will all suffer the consequences; hell, even "conservative" is derived from conserve, which is what the deal wants to ensure

>>127848299
Because climate change is win-win.

If the US isn't hobbled by environmental laws, we can ramp up industry.

And, critically, the people who will die from climate change are poor. We need to cull a lot of poor, third world people from this planet, and climate change is a lot easier than shooting every one of them in the head with an expensive bullet.

>>127849488
According to scientists, the ice caps melted in 1983 and half the US eastern seaboard is under forty feet of water.

Paris Accord is Marxist redistribution of wealth from wealthy countries to the poor, with handlers skimming off the top.

>>127849058
>all that drivel
>coming from some fourth rate, shitskin shithole banana republic that just went bankrupt

>>127855428
Hei Norge.
He hasn't actually made a decision yet.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/869903459511918592
this is all "source" confirms, aka speculation.

>>127855570
triggered leaf

>>127855154
Cupcake, your questions would require you to understand what peer review is, the related publications, and that universities don't solely get their research grants from only two people. :^)

>>127855652
I remember that, millions died

>>127853082

>and devastate nations like Bangladesh

Maybe the stupid cunts shouldn't have a population of 80 million.

They're sub-human Muslim filth. Good.

>2100

Literally who gives a shit. The damage done by Bangladesh still repopulating at a 2.4 rate will far outweigh the damage done by sea levels rising.

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>>127848299

>>127855596
Environmental jobs would've been the biggest job sector in the coming years. But NOOOOO we need to cater to the dying industries of coal and oil

>>127850560
It's a b8 response you dip, you're the newfag here

>>127855886
>and devastate nations like Bangladesh
and Belgium!

>>127855350
>nuance doesn't exist
>because my extreme position brought to you by the oil industry and its payed shills is real and yours is the scam
lel

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>>127852416
Underrated kek

>>127848299

>MUH FOSSIL FUELS

Except most fossil fuel companies are for the deal.

>Why Big Oil wants Trump to stay in Paris climate deal

http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/18/investing/big-oil-paris-deal-trump/

>U.S. Coal Companies to President Trump: Stick with the Paris Climate Deal

http://fortune.com/2017/04/05/coal-companies-donald-trump-paris-climate-deal/

>U.S. coal companies ask Trump to stick with Paris climate deal

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-coal-idUSKBN1762YY

Archive.is takes way to fucking long to load these.

Anyway, once again Trump failed to do what people actually wanted. BTFO.

Since even if he announces it, it won't happen until November 2019 this will be another thing like the Muslim Ban and The Wall that won't happen.

>>127855948
Government subsidies lining the pockets of cohorts. Billionaire Musk gets subsidies.

>>127848299

It's a way to siphon money out of countries who are the most productive in terms of power generation and thus using that power to produce things. They trade in "energy credits" that you must purchase on a market. Who runs the market? I cannot remember, but I'm quite certain it's somewhere in the EU, if not a singular country.

It's a sheckles grab while pandering to emotions of easily swayed retards.

>>127855154

So you think bank and corporations are AGAINST Climate denial?

Wow you faggots are FAR up your own vaginas.

>>127848299
Because it does nothing to curb the main polluters(china/india agree to stop GROWING CO2 levels in 2030) and basically shivs developed countries economies for no benefit.

Can anyone post some lib tears?

>>127856200
>easily swayed retards.
from Canada

>>127848563
Fucking commies ruining this country

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>>127856171
So line the pockets of Exxon and BP? They're doing a great job!

>>127848356
But theres islands like kiribati and many others already disappearing, and most of southeast asia is being pushed far inland. How can you deny climate change?

>>127854211
We're not causing it. No real science can prove that we are. Any article you post is not science. I have been laughing for so long at this nonsense, every fucking time the "predictions" flop they come up with some new shit to scare people with. It's all bullshit scare tactics for gibmedats and further governmental control and there is NO FUCKING REAL SCIENCE TO BACK IT. Read the graphic again. And again. Your predictions are based on complete nonsense.

>>127848299
Has Al Gore, Leonardo Dicaprio and Hillary Clinton all stop living in mansions and flying around in private planes? No? Then climate change isn't real.

>>127856098
imagine being this kind of delusional cuck

>>127849058
Puerto Rico

>>127856460
The graphic disproves nothing
It shows ancient records that g to demonstrate that the current warming is faster than any in history

I don't think you understand the science. you just want it to be a conspiracy because you are a braindead piece of shit

>>127856235
>(china/india agree to stop GROWING CO2 levels in 2030)

How is that a bad thing? With the US opting out of the agreement, they'll never agree to that. Good luck getting them to stop using heavy polluting industry EVER. Meanwhile the effect this will have on western countries will be negligible since we don't have so much manufacturing anymore.

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Is there any evidence that the Paris Accord has actually helped anything?

>>127848785
climate change is real, but if it's because humans, i doubt.
STILL i would like to live in a city that is pollute-free, so I approve green energy in some cases.

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>>127855779
>universities don't solely get their research grants from only two people
Of course they don't petal, those (((two people))) have scores of front groups to do their bidding. Please don't pretend that peer review is some divine ascendant process soaring above base concerns like status and money.

>>127854211
Also, we're going to be entering a cold spell in a decade or so due to solar activity. I'll be laughing. Again.

>>127856321

While that is true, have you taken a look at the inhabitants of your own country, Blake?

Walk on to any college campus on either of the coasts and say, "Climate Change and the Paris Climate Agreement are shams. They only want to take your money in exchange for 'credits' that are worthless!"

See how well you're received. Then come back and reassess if your statement is lacking some context.

>>127856637
it's literally been about a year or so, no direct evidence yet. science isn't immediate.

>>127856604

You still produce power you dumb fucking potato nigger.

>>127848299
It's fluff. Go read the wikipedia page.

There is zero legal binding on. The worst that happens, like everything else with global organizations, is you get a very nasty letter saying you are polluting too much.

Also, all first world countries are responsible for sending 100 Billion $ per year to third world countries to help combat pollution.

Fuck that.

>>127856655
Don't care about climate change, but I drive a Prius because it saves me a shit ton of money. All for green technology that can save us money.

>>127850495
>not knowing this meme

It's a waste of money the world's fucked

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>>127856776
>>127856776
uhhhhh
solar activity has been steady for decades and warming has continued
at the very best we'll see slightly reduced warming

We'll fix it with terraforming. If we can't fix our fuckups we don't deserve space.

>>127854018
>Should we stop breathing air to spite them?

No.

We should stop them from breathing.

>>127856957
electric cars are cool, but still they need energy and only nuclear plants do not emit pollution, until they explode.

are you guys really this retarded


of course you are, you think you got a washed up real estate shit house with frogs. no you dumb fucks, he won because HRC is so obviously evil. i voted for him, but only because hes a fucking moron and might make this world funny

>>127856216
>American education
You thick twat, you got the wrong end of the stick then waved it above it you're head grunting in Spanish.

>>127848299
Take a look at the regulatory obligations of it. If you like your standard of living now, you should stfu.

>>127848299
Just take a look at
>>127854682
It's a gigantic jewish trick.

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There's just as much of an argument that it is based on solar weather. Just like anything else with liberals if you think something else, you are a conspiracy theorist. All climate science has been funneled down one hypothesis. That's not Science.

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>>127848299
>Thinking Big Oil and et al can be stopped while a republican is in office

>>127856599
No. You didn't read it. Let's take the CO2 measurements that almost everything in your religion relies upon. Look at the methods of measurement. This shit is all built on a false premise that no one questions. Even if there are scientists who aren't in this for the money and gibmedats, they are using data and "proven accepted methods" that are based on bullshit. It's a fucking house of cards and I can't wait for it to collapse and laugh yet again.

>>127848356
Your existence is a hoax

>>127848299

Because /pol/ goes full baby boomer when climate change happens, for some fucking reason.

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Cosmic ray cloud cover correlation. Let's just ignore the huge ball of plasma when doing climate science.

>>127857542
CO2 is related to temperature increases, but coal and oil aren't the only problem. If we reduced coal or substituted it for nuclear and made deforestation a 1:1 cut/replant ratio we'd be fine. But it is either all or nothing for the government.

Do the people here claiming 'it will only hurt shitskin countries' not realise that this is a fucking international planet wide problem?

If Bangladesh is destroyed those people are going to India and China. If they go to India and China those countries undergo huge social unrest and stressors. Do you think India and China are not relevant? If millions of Bangladeshi refugees cause problems there, problems happen everywhere.

What do you think happens when Central American agriculture starts to fail? You get millions of refugees. You can kill them at the border and then what happens with the huge hispanic american population who are witnessing this? There will be civil war.

If the Middle East gets too hot (and it will very soon) how do you think this will impact ISIS? I'd say it will help recruitment and make the current wave of European terrorism 10 times worse.

Where do the Middle Eastern and North African climate refugees go?

What happens when the demographic time bomb in Europe and the US helps minority political parties gain power? Do you think they will prioritise you over the people they consider relatives and ancestors?

Do you think all of your food and things you own are produced in first world nations with first world materials? 70% of the worlds Phosphate rock (essential for fertilizer, which is vital for agriculture) is located in Morocco. Morocco will be destroyed by warming. Do you think they will let us take the phosphate for free?

There is an excellent talk here by a war historian called Gwynne Dyer discussing the Geopolitical ramifications of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc_4Z1oiXhY

>>127848356
This

just a way for (((globalists))) to funnel money into their pockets.

>>127856764
>Of course they don't petal, those (((two people))) have scores of front groups to do their bidding.
Who do you think I was responding to, before you chimed in with your non-reply?

Speaking of front groups, yes, it is the petrodollar industry which promotes denialism of climate change.

Now why would they do that? Sure is a fucking mystery, ain't that right, princess?

>Please don't pretend that peer review is some divine ascendant process soaring above base concerns like status and money.

Golly gee whiz, of course the oil industry is not like that at all, they are the true 'divine ascendant process' above all mortal concerns or from greed, shilling, and anti-scientific propaganda... Its those fucking scientists who measure ice core samples and tree ring data, those fucking evil scheming bastards. Why would we ever rely on science for anything?

Have fun praying away a terminal illness, you can start with yourself first as a test subject.

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>>127848299
Most emissions originate from developing countries like China, India and Brazil.

IF "Climate change" comes entirely from Humans were fucked anyway.

Do you think these countries will slow down their economically growth just to appease some tree hugging hipster in the US?

>>127857078
http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/28/new-study-predicts-decades-of-cooling-from-weak-solar-activity/
There is some to this which is based on bullshit, but the solar phases actually have something to them if you read about it.

>>127857542
no, this is disproven

see
>>127852241

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Alright you little piece of shit.

- Is climate change triggered by humans? Yes (scientifically proven)

- Can climate change be stoped? No (scientifically proven)

WHY do we have to spend money on fighting the global warming if we can't stop it in any way. Heck, even if we stop our CO2 production by 100% RIGHT NOW, it would not change a damn thing, because the chain reaction has already started.

YES let's leave the fucking climate deal.
God bless Trump.

>>127857870
>You can kill them at the border and then what happens with the huge hispanic american population who are witnessing this? There will be civil war.
God, you're a flaming dipshit.

>>127857781
We wouldn't be talking about climate change had the liberals not killed molten salt reactor technology funding. I'm all for nuclear.

>>127857870
The countries that aren't affected by this is Canada and America. They have the resources, space, and climate variability to be fine. Build a wall near Mexico (or better yet Panama) and they're safe. It is a global problem to fix it since America doesn't need to do anything.

>>127848584
Oh jeez oh man what're we gonna respond with to that picture? Oh boy is he screwed now, aw jeez

>>127858012
Oh yeah! My college professor said it was disproven in the seventies too long before we know half of what we know about the sun now.

>>127848356

FPBP

>>127858013
>YES let's leave the fucking climate deal.
Not with Mommy Merk at the helm.

>>127857870
>Hispanic
>American
kill them too

>>127848299

If they could figure out a way to make a climate deal that wouldn't slow the US's already shittily slow economic growth/stagnation, we'd be for it. But, they can't. So we aren't.

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>>127857870
Most people realize that 1. You can't change it without going to war with india and china and forcing them to cut levels. 2. It butchers your economy for no global benefit 3. In the past ten thousand years there have been over a dozen cases of larger, more rapid temperature rises including by as much as 2C during the time of the greeks(but .5C is the point of no return guyz). When you put it in total context we're barely out of a god damn ice age ffs.

>>127848299
all according do covfefe

Even if manmade climate change were a thing, I'd still be for it since it disproportionately affects shitskins, and legislating against it means crippling yourself.

>>127856831
We have more than our share of brainwashed expendable comrades. Just couldn't resist an easy cheap shot

>>127857620
>implying it's big oil doing the manipulating now
Good one

>>127848594
The people that pay the most toward conservation of the environment are hunters and fisherman.

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>>127849488
>little donnie boy
precious little sweetie anon on a chinese cartoon board thinks he's know whats better for the USA than actual POTUS.
Tell me little sweetie anon, what are YOUR qualifcations?

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>Climate change will cause collapsing food chains
>Crop yields in nigger countries will suffer
>Hundreds of millions of climate refugees will try to flee to greener pastures (literally)
>i.e. western Europe and the USA
>These niggers will vote left wing
>Letting in more climate refugees
>The climate refugee problem compounds
>White genocide

We either have to slow down climate change, or we gotta make life better in Nigger countries. They're coming over here in 10, 20 or 30 years in numbers you don't even want to know.

>>127857765
See, this is why the entire climate science industry is complete and utter bullshit. If they just published findings instead of trying to make predictions it would be respectable. There are too many factors that people don't take into consideration, and even more that aren't even recognized as relevant yet. And even more that we just don't fucking know about.

No one can just admit that we don't understand the mechanics yet. We just don't. Just publish the data and maybe eventually we'll understand and can make accurate predictions. Like in 300 years when there is enough reliable data.

>>127854405
They should call it for what it really is 'Tax for breathing' hippies have always been annoying schizos now even more so...

>>127858571
climate change can't be stopped. It has been proven several times. Yet we have to pay for it???

>>127858018
Oh, so you think that the huge MEXICAN AND CENTRAL AMERICAN POPULATION in the States will stand by and watch their ancestors being gunned down at the border?

>>127858036
Sadly globalisation means every country will be harmed badly by this.
Every country relies on other countries
Every country has potential fires to be lit by this.
The USA is in fact effected anyway - large portions of the country will lose huge crop yield percentages due to warming

>>127856957
Purchase price subsidized by tax payers. Good for you, but the government choosing winners and losers is always a bad idea. See Solyndra

>>127858571
>climate change a third of the amount experienced by the greeks will collapse food chains
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Reality is wrong, trust the narrative.

>>127858571
Don't be an idiot. The shitskins will come regardless, since they can't not fuck up their own countries.

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Believe CO2 correlation. Ignore this correlation.

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>>127858293
this graph doesn't prove anything
nobody says CO2 is the only driver of climate. However it is the current cause of warming

>In the past ten thousand years there have been over a dozen cases of larger, more rapid temperature rises including by as much as 2C during the time of the greeks(but .5C is the point of no return guyz).

No. The only times we have warmed this quickly were during mass extinctions.
I assume you are referring to the 'Medieval warm period' which wasn't as warm as today and caused mass drought in huge parts of the world.

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Don't look at the sun....we did it. White quilt blah blah

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>>127848356
this

>>127858921
And? It isn't one thing causing climate change. It can be natural AND enhanced by human intervention. Regardless we need to get off coal/oil and work on stuff that can propel us into space and away from the degenerates in the desert.

>>127848299
Coal kickbacks.

>>127858921
nice graph that happens to stop when it no longer suits your argument
>>127857078
>>127852241

>>127859014
We just had a pathetic solar max. The weakest cycle in a long time. Solar weather has a big impact including expanding the atmosphere.

>>127848299
If he Trump doesn't gain monetary profit out of a deal, he is opposed to it.

Basically 'muh money'

>>127851829
t. slept through AChem AND OChem lecture

>>127849112
I thought you moved to Texas Adam Curry?
ITM

>>127859234
Correct

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>>127848299
>1 post by this ID

>>127858463
>67kOoKsc
This

>>127848356
Yeah, the overwhelming majority consensus of climate scientists and the mass of empirical evidence is just "le Jewish hoax xdddd"

((They)) never talk about ocean acidification because it would be easily fixed by dumping a bunch of a calcium based base into the ocean. It would reduce the acidity and give reefs more building matter.

>>127851502
China is the leading producer of green energy in the world as of 2016 and a signatory to the agreement, you retard. Stop using old memes.

like MUH RUSSIA, is there any actual evidence out there supporting negative human impact on climate change?

International agreements and treaties give other countries control over yours, that equals a loss of sovereignty. That's why I'm against it.

>>127860353
more evidence than those pizzagate threads you've wasted entire months of your life posting in

>>127860353
No, there isn't. It's all conjecture and unproven hypotheses.

>>127851761
This makes sense, but what about the amount of CO2 being absorbed by the ocean? Liberals seem to have shifted a bit toward focusing on how CO2 levels in the ocean are rising fast and killing the life in the ocean. Is there truth to this or is this also somehow a natural occurrence?

>>127860690
>what is ocean acidification

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>>127850303
Bless your heart

>>127860690
>Liberals seem to have shifted a bit toward focusing on how
This should be a clue. They don't know shit. They find some random correlation based on conjecture that proves nothing and cling to it like it's some sort of revelation proving that they've been right all along when all it does is prove that they're retarded.

>>127860840
Yeah that's what I'm talking about. Is human CO2 production contributing significantly to killing life in the ocean?

>>127860353
let's assume climate change is a natural phenomenon, wouldn't it be even more important to do something against it? Because if it's manmade, you 'only' have to pay attention to clean energy, but if it isn't manmade you have to find some other way to deal with it

>>127860510
so nothing?
0=0 ayy lmao

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>>127850303
Here, let me help you. pic related

>>127848299
>tax the hell out of western industry for being productive
>let china and india pump unfiltered toxins into the air, without regulation.
makes sense.