greeks are turks

>>127834020
lol fuck off Abo

>>127834020

greeks are turks confirmed by science.

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>>127835488

Muhahaha

>>127835252
http://cyprus-mail.com/2014/03/02/ou...east-not-west/

- The findings show that Cyprus is genetically much more heterogeneous than other countries; only 10 per cent of individuals possess tissue types that one comes across just once (known as unique phenotypes).

- And Cypriots are genetically closer to the Near East rather than to the West: the research discovered that the most common haplotype (codenamed A1B8DR3) in Europe is ranked 27th among the haplotypes found among the island’s population.

- To varying degrees, the genetic makeup of Greek Cypriots has commonalities with Armenians, Greeks, Iranians, Turks and Palestinians, to name but a few.

- Throughout the centuries, the Mediterranean island has been conquered and settled by a succession of peoples, including Greeks, Romans, Jews, Assyro-Babylonians and Arabs and Franks.

- Citing what Kosteas called an intriguing find, Turkish Cypriots have a great deal in common with people in Thessaloniki, many of whom are descendants of refugees from Asia Minor.

- That study found that Greek markers accounted for around 23 per cent of Cypriot DNA. Apart from ‘Greek DNA’ markers, Cypriots showed signs of Iranian, Italian – a significant 20 per cent – Sicilian, Armenian, Syrian, Georgian, Saudi and Palestinian markers.

>>127836098
Cyprus mail is anglo propaganda
also 404 not found

>>127834020
Where is the source? Y-DNA doesn't means anything, it just means test that explores ancestry.
Who tested it? How many people were tested? Where(city, region) were they tested? When were they tested?

>>127834020
Well, if we take a sample of today's Australia.

Australia is Highly Chinese

Stop making these threads, noone cares

>>127836391
R1a slavshit, you have no say.

>>127836355
http://cyprus-mail.com/2014/03/02/our-dna-looks-east-not-west/

>>127836528
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1a
>Haplogroup R1a, or haplogroup R-M420, is a human Y-chromosome DNA haplogroup which is distributed in a large region in Eurasia, extending from Scandinavia, Central Europe and southern Siberia to South Asia.[3][2]
Umm yes, i am pretty European, R1a is the most European gene group. What's your point?

>>127834020
Actually Turks were greeks that First got raped by Asians and then by Arabs and then proceeded to rape greeks
Like pottery, really

Haplogroups are a meme

>>127834020
>italy and sicily 75%
Wow. It confirms that Anatolian settlers founded Rome.

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>>127836098
And that my dear roo friend, is the beauty of being 24/7 conquered by raping mudshits. Refer to the picture I posted above, you can see that my DNA is 99% similar to the Greek one except for that tiny orange sliver ehich I'm guessing is Turkish/Middle eastern something. Just like Cretans

It's not just the DNA though, you have to take into account the language, the customs, the culture, the tradition and the phenotype of random specimens, in which you can clearly see that most Greek Cypriots cannot be distinguished from mainland Greeks. Of course there are minorities like Armenians here which for some reason are considered Greek Cypriots along with us so some people look more middle Eastern. Turkish Cypriots are Greek/Turk islamified rape babies

Cyprusmail is a known leftist AKEL shill here, which coincidentally shills for our not-Greekness, despite everything pointing to the contrary

>>127834020

It's as much about Greeks being Turks as it is Turks being Greek and Roman. Anatolia was raped by the Greeks for a couple of centuries and the Romans for several hundred years afterwars. Turks are Greek and Roman rapebabies and then afterwards Greeks are Turk rapebabies.

It's all about history

>>127834020
>he have less than most WE states
Top cuck.

>>127836683
They're good for identifying that people had ancestors of a certain ethnicity, but that's about it.
A nigger could have the I1 haplogroup, but the majority of his ancestry is African.
This could be used to confirm Greeks might have some rapebaby ancestors somewhere down the line, though.

Fuck off back to no man's land kangaroo fucker

>>127834020
>Not knowing Anatolia's history

Italians and Greeks have a high degree ( as far as other European populations are concerned) of Anatolian roots. See Roman empire part 2 (Byzantium)

>>127836894
yes but more than that
if haplogroups were to be 100% believed we would come to a conclusion that italians and uygurs from china are related

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>>127836581
>>127836098
>20,000 Turkish Cypriot volunteer donors
>Citing what Kosteas called an intriguing find, Turkish Cypriots have a great deal in common with people in Thessaloniki, many of whom are descendants of refugees from Asia Minor.
This is why this study should be instantly discredited
They included the Turkish settlers from after 74 in the the Turkish Cypriots and came into conclusion that they're somehow related more to those Greeks who had roots in Anatolia
Turkish Cypriots in reality are much more related to us since they were just Greek Cypriots who converted to Islam during Ottoman times and kep it that way

>>127834020
>Central italy higher than Sicily
This map is so fake it hurts.

>>127837086
Hmm..

>>127836709
Italy has no Turkish or Anatolian genes. OP and you are little reverse thinking. It more like Turkish, Italian and Anatolian people have African genes and those can be separated and we see they didn't get them from Turks, but directly from Africa. We even know the exact date when they got them, when they imported slaves and such.

>>127837045
The self identifying romans of byzantine empire were heterogeneous as shit.

>>127837087
turk =/= moor
now kys shitskin

Where the fuck do Lithuanians came from?

>>127837067

Or that finns and baltic peoples are related to east asian mongols, even though baltic peoples and finns are the whitest in the world.
>>127836528

as opposed to an australian mongrel, you mean?
r1a is aryan, and you don't even know the haplogroup the slav belongs to, he could be I1, I2a, R1b.

not that it makes a difference though, haplogroups are less than a tenth of your ancestry.

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>>127837086
>Turkish Cypriots are close to us

Then why exactly do they look like they just came fresh off the boat from Ankara?

>>127837467
Because those you have seen may have had roots from Ankara
There are legit Turkish Cypriots, the problem is that they are being eclipsed by the Turkish settlers who were brought in the north after the invasion

>>127837402
Spain, like UK, but unlike UK or Spain, you were part of Russia for some time and they imported more slaves.

>>127837087
Central Italy likely has more ancestry from the Caucasus than the south

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>>127837402

>>127837576
Never seen one that looks even remotely related to us, on the other hand have youseen Survivor? There's a Greek Cypriot playing in it, try and identify him

See what I mean?

>>127834020
First you have to understand what turks actually are. Genetically they don't have much in common with Turkic people from Central Asia and Siberia, where they came from in the first place.
They are basically the same as ancient Anatolians, who are obviously close to Greeks.

>>127837695
Around 50% of Lithuanians carry R1a.

>>127837252
>Swedish
>Lost nation cause of shitskins
>Insult others as shitskin in anonymous websites.
>Varg.mp4
>Making european enemies while whities go extinct in your own street

Sounds like a good plan, Sven

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>>127834020
Sniff, am I outcast?

Where I belong?

>>127834020


AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH


*BREATHES IN*


AHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA


TFW YOU HAVE LESS TURK GENES THAN CENTRAL EUROPE AHHAHAHAAHAHHAHA

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>>127834020
>bosnia
>only 37

>>127834020
LOL at people trying to disconnect us from our glorious ancestors. Jealous much?

>>127838034

Hrvoje we are more white than Yuropoor degenerates. Now you know why they shitpost so much on pol why we arent (((white))).

WHITEST GENES!

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>>127837814
nigger I know who he is, and I also know that he's /ourguy/ because of what he said about refugees some years ago
still, it doesn't change the fact there are SOME legit Turkish Cypriots

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I just noticed, Albania is less similar than us to roaches?

But they're fucking Turkey Lite

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>>127837892

>>127838162
gib white gf

>>127834020
First of all >starya

Where the fuck do these "stats" come from, you cant just make up some bullshit map and call it fact

>>127838180
Pousth I'm talking about his appearance, can you tell him apart from the otgers?

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>>127838180
>>127838224
>>127838319
>>127838052

>muh hellenic whiteness

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>>127838442
Roachposting at its finest

>>127837892

Haplogroups are meaningless.
The main maternal haplogroups in europe are african.
And lithuania is also basically 50% "asian" in haplogroup.

>>127834020
>French are closer to Turks than Balkans despite centuries of Rape
Let me doubt it

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>>127838442

>>127837915
Build your own Khanate
It's time to stop living in the shadow of Gengis and eclipse him.
You can do it Finland.

>>127838442
Note how your main argument against Greeks is that we are not Greeks.

>>127838225
Redpill me on this haploshit.
>>127838146
Just wait my white friend,we'll only get even more white and they will continue niggerification.

>>127836807
They don't teach history in Australia, do they?

Who you could have known that anything bordering the Mediterranea is kebab disgusting gene pool trash ?

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>>127838789
>you can do it

>>127838225
So what's the source of that study? You need to realize that in some studies they take 30 people on some location, then on some other study they take 50 people from other location, some different studies take 150 people from all over the place.
>>127838526
They are meaningless when you don't provide source, year, study, nr. of people and rely just on 1 study. You should compare them all what they have in common. Taking sample from 50 people in one town isn't anything.

>>127838678
>centuries of rape
Noone actually falls for this meme right?

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>>127834020
''Turks'' is not a race but a mix of races.

>>127838034
>Muslims who fought for the Ottomans got raped less
It actually makes sense.

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>>127836528

>>127838162
There's one haplogroup named after you, but you are a cocktail of genes.
http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_H_mtDNA.shtml
>H1f: found especially in Finland

>>127839199
Assuming the map is from Eupedia,Slovenians sample size is 3 stars,meaning 250-500 where tested.

>>127838970
A Y-DNA haplogroup is a group of similar haplotypes that gets passed along direct male offspring. It can be useful to compare different peoples but it's usually best to use autosomal DNA data for that purpose.

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>>127838225
Who's E1b1b1a1 master-race here?

>>127839199
>So what's the source of that study?
I don't know but if you want a good source, eupedia is the way to go.

>>127840076
It could be some older data but it doesn't match the data on eupedia, for us at least.

>>127834020
who's the retard that said that Finns are Mongoloids?

>>127840185
Europedia isn't a source, it's a site.
This is a source:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1469-1809.2007.00429.x/full
This is a source:
For example Finland:
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Finland?iframe=yresults

>>127840185
Oh yes,that map is old as shit.We get less Balkanite the more samples we get.

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>>127840175
>E1b1b1a1

>>127840336
>Europedia isn't a source, it's a site.
http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

>>127839693
Nobody was raped.
Ottomans did not rape.
You pay the gold you send some soldiers when Sultan asks and done.
You are officially free to govern yourself.

>>127840336
I know it is not a source,but you asked how many got tested,and Eupedia is the most popular site,i just gave you the info.You never know what sites people are are aware of,and what sites they are not.

>>127838442
>insulting greeks by bassicallly calling them turks

>>127840343
Yeah, I've noticed that too.

>>127840398
WE

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literally everyone on the planet who isn't sub-saharan african, negrito, or australasian is a turk.

>>127840425
Source can only be a scientific laboratory results page where they name nr. of people tested, year.... and their results. If you can't even name number of people tested then you don't have a source.

>>127840451
>The Ottomans performed celibacy for 500 years
No one said that it was in the law to rape somebody,or some kind of way of life,but rapes did happen.
>You are free to govern your selves
Well,i do not know about other regions,but all the administrators here where Turkish.

>>127840694
Conquering civilization many times sterilized their slaves, so they didn't actually pass on the genes.

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geneology comes first and geography comes second when determining who people are.

>>127840398
all great leaders had E1b1b1a1
its the final redpill kang haplogroup

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>>127835605
The chart you post confirm the OP's claim

That Y DNA of Turkey is closer to the DNA of Greece, Italy, Cyprus, Albania & Romania

>>127840651
But they do have numbers. Look at the stars next to the numbers.

>>127840694
>No one said that it was in the law to rape somebody,or some kind of way of life,but rapes did happen.
Not very often, and I needn't tell you how a "rape baby" would end up historically.
>Well,i do not know about other regions,but all the administrators here where Turkish.
"Turkish", more like local Muslims whose surnames ended in -ić, lol.

>>127840451
Basically this, people here tend to really demonise what the turks did here way too much.

>>127840694
Of course it did but it's not a policy.
So it doesn't effect things that much.
I remember Ottomans using local royalty to govern conquered places. I could be wrong about that.

>>127840777
Well,okay but did not happen with the Ottomans.Having Christians to pay bonus taxes was quite useful to them.

>>127841039
>I remember Ottomans using local royalty to govern conquered places. I could be wrong about that.
You're not, that's correct. They weren't exactly bringing people from Asia minor here.

>>127840928
J2 haplogroup, OP didn't even mention haplogroup.

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>>127840398
Your map is bullshit

>>127841039
They would elect some local rulers,but the area it self,like pashaluks where governed by the Turks themselves.Now just because a Vezir happens to be from the Balkans does not mean,it that the Vezirs where always Balkanite,like my other friend claims it to be.

>>127841237
That map is bullshit, yes, but EV-13 is only a specific branch of E1b1b and it is almost the only form of E haplogroup around here. Some speculate it might have even originated in Europe.

check the flag
95 baited

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>>127841237
E-V13 is a subclade of E1b.

>>127841330
Pashaluks were the largest administrative divisions in the empire and pashas weren't exactly frolicking around villages raping people. Even then, most pashas here were "Bosniaks". There were also some Greeks and Albanians.

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>>127841237
> map of haplogroup E-V13

Your map + Greek colonization between 8th and 5th centuries BC

>>127841342
Of course, EV-13 is herrenrasse

>>127840398
Modern Italians & Greeks wuz Egyptian, Ethiopian & Somali Kangz

sauce:
http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

>>127841237

Outside Europe, E1b1b is found at high frequencies in Morocco (over 80%), Somalia (80%), Ethiopia (40% to 80%), Tunisia (70%), Algeria (60%), Egypt (40%), Jordan (25%), Palestine (20%), and Lebanon (17.5%). On the European continent it has the highest concentration in Kosovo (over 45%), Albania and Montenegro (both 27%), Bulgaria (23%), Macedonia and Greece (both 21%), Cyprus (20%), Sicily (20%), South Italy (18.5%), Serbia (18%) and Romania (15%).

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>>127841342
That's the Pelasgeans haplogroup.

>>127841522
I never said pashas went around and raped,the same way i said it was never a policy.

>>127841342
They find an ice man, extract gene and if there are new genes they name a new haplogroup after it. Then they compare people to those genes.

>>127837221
Unless you are suggesting 100% of turks and 80% of greeks are african, I don't see how that's possible.

>>127841861
Well, more or less.

>>127841743
>outside Europe
>Serbia, Albania, Italy, Greece...

>>127841770
Most Mediterraneans belong to haplogroups E1b1b, J2 and R1b.

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>>127834020
>tfw it's (((another))) attack on meds thread

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>>127841537
>Greek colonization between 8th and 5th centuries BC

Are you sure in not the opposite?

>>127841551
Well, it is the haplogroup of some of the ancient Mediterranean great minds and emperors.

>>127842170
>all those Albos
literally Ottoman stains

>>127842170
Lol "new greek language"

>>127841926
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1469-1809.2011.00701.x/full
>using over 500,000 SNP genotypes, were compared together with Human Genome Diversity Panel (HGDP) data. To obtain a more representative sampling from Central Asia, Kyrgyz samples (Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan) were genotyped and analysed. Principal component (PC) analysis reveals a significant overlap between Turks and Middle Easterners and a relationship with Europeans and South and Central Asians; however, the Turkish genetic structure is unique.

There you have it, Turks are so mixed that you became a new race and your genes literally can't be found in Europe, you are own roach.

This is bullshit Slovenians are entirely whiter than Croatians. The only white Croatians are the ones who are actually Slovenian by heritage and were just drawn into Croatia by Tito

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>>127842294
>no argument
>screams ''ottoman''

kek

>>127842170

I got the E-V13 map and added the Greek colonies between 8-5th century BC.
What's the opposite of it?

>>127842496
It merely says that there is more of an overlap between the Y-DNA distribution of Slovenes and Turks than there is between that of Croats and Turks. Anyhow, whiteness is no physical quantity to be measured. Both are white.

>>127842294
Basically, yeah. Same thing happened to us with Kosovo.

>>127842448
Every genetic structure is unique.

>>127842520
>Albos
>predominately muslim plus loyal Ottoman lapdogs
>the only ones from the Balkans other than Bosnians who were treated better by the Turks
>seriously implying they didn't experience a population boom
there's a reason why Greeks wanted to remove them during the Independence War

>>127835605
magyar cigany

>>127842862

Are you a christian turkish kurd larping like a greek?
Albanians and Greeks dont hate each-other.

>>127843499
>Albanians and Greeks dont hate each-other.
Ask the mainland Greeks, they don't take Albos kindly

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>>127842170
>France joking about reverse colonization

Oh boy, this is rich

>>127843499
>Albanians and Greeks dont hate each-other.
what a retard

>>127842794
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_admixture_in_Europe
Alcácer do Sal 22.00% <-- highest African admixture

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alc%C3%A1cer_do_Sal
>Slave trade
>had experienced an important African immigration as a way to compensate for the demographic deficit that accompanied the Portuguese overseas expansion. Later, in the 18th century, a new wave of slaves was recruited to Alcácer do Sal to work the salt fields and cultivate rice, the two important economic activities in the region

This is why Portugal has those black genes, not because of Turks.

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>>127834020
>>127837695
>>127841237
BALTICS ARE MASTER RACE!
STEP ON YOUR KNEES PESANTS!
WE ARE GODS AMONG MEN!

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>>127834020
Fuck you are stupid...
Whole turkey was Grece once you stupid cunt
Its Turks that are simmilar to Greeks and not other way around, why do you think Italy is so high percantage, its becouse Italy had a lot greeks
Croatia and other Sout Slav countries have highest I Haplogroup and that is not slavic its native so when you conquer some land you dont replace general population you just replace Nobles

>>127840529

this nationalist greek guy in the photo doesn't even slightly look like turkish.

he has clearly dominant north african and even ethiopian admixture.

>>127844638
Fucking retarded croat.

The roman empire of the middle ages (Byzantine) =/= modern day greece. The early byzantine was mixed as fuck (greeks, goths, thracians, macedonians, ect) and got even more mixed in the 1000's (addition of slavs, vlachs, armenians, turkomans, magyars,ect).

>>127838970
>>127838146
We are majority I and I is here since ice age, and also Nordic contries have some sort of I aswell, Balkan was biggest refuge during Ice age and Repopulation of europe happend from balkan Iberia and Crimea
>>127840694
Well Turks didnt care for your Nationality they cared only for your religion

>>127844638
>Whole turkey was Grece
It's the other way. Greeks never migrated to Anatolia in large numbers, just colonies, ruling class and trading posts here and there. Farmers and common folk are descendants of original anatolians and nomadic Turks had more impact on them than Greeks.
Byzantium relied on Turkish mercenaries in both Anatolia and Balkans - Romania, because there is simply not enough people.

>>127845203
Everithing that was populated in antolia was greek and they stayed there and they assimilated and thats why there is so high similarity

Same as us Croats came and took control of this part of balkans but still today you have majority aincent gene and not slavic
We changed culture not genes

When you have 30% this 30% that and 40% something that doesnt meen that your avrage greek has that percentage , it meens that there are 30 that carry A and 30% that carry B and 40% that carry C
Thease things are testen mostly in isolated comunities not in citys
My point is that its to be expected to be high simmilarity

>>127845203
>macedonians

You sure you're not American? Your education is pretty retarded mate

>>127846120
>>127846105
And since Today macedonians also carry mostly aincent genes that meens that they are roughly the same macedonians that were there during Alexander But they were greeks at the time, and trough time they sepparated from their Greek culture

>>127846355
Hope you're having a laugh mate, "Macedonians" are Bulgar/South Serbs roleplaying as an ethnically ancient Greek kingdom. They are the WE WUZ KANGZ of Europe

>>127838526
>Inept tards think haplogroups are important to your overall genetic makeup

And for the the matter of fact neither N1c/R1a/R1b are born in Europe.

>>127846648
Nothing serb about them. They're bulgarians just like the population of northern greece before they got replaced by turks in the population exchange...

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>>127835252
Sorry but it's been proven by genetic testing. Cypriots are closer to Levantines and Pontics are closer to Caucasus people

>>127846355
>macedonians also carry mostly aincent genes

Albanian Mecedonians or Bulgar Macedonians?

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>>127846887
You spout more literary diarrhoea than a cultural Marxist you Jewy cunt, the only Turk here is your mum

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>>127847281
The truth hurts, doesnt it?

>>127846648
>>127846887
>>127847054
Macedonians and greeks are rougly simmilar you have 20% them with E1 and 20 with I
and 15%R1a 15% J
J,E1,I are there before slavs came
so you have Majority of population that are infact there from more than 3K years ago

Nations started forming in 19st before it was

So you cant atrubite people who lived there 3kyrs ago nation

>>127847721
You are correct, croat.

Nationalism is a relatively recent phenomena.

>>127838442
This guy looks Egyptian. Maybe his ancestors were repatriated from the old Greek community of Alexandria? (now mostly defunct)

I guess this shows no one is pure anything in the Mediterranean. The mixing goes way back to the Mycenaeans and probably earlier.

>>127840928
> Meds are Meds
So shocking. Once you accept that Turks are mostly converted Anatolians (15% Central Asian), all of this is cleared up.

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Greece is white, they are almost no different than the ancient greeks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBpNu4_TP9w

Watch this Video about Greek Pagans, notice how a lot of them have these ancient greek statue face?

Now tell me that guy doesn't look aryan

>>127849194
>VICE
Use hooktube so they don't get views

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=SBpNu4_TP9w

>>127834020
Turks are like Greeks, in fact, or rather the native Anatolians.

REAL Turks are indistinguishable from modern day Mongols, and come from Mongolia itself. Some Turks in Turkey are still Asiatic looking. You can't mistake them with Greeks.

>>127848971
>this
turks are converted antolians
when somone conquered some land he wouldnt magicaly replace population, he needed those same people to do their same jobs as they did
and he would tax them if he wanted to change their religion
>>127849194
Can you pls sto sing "white"
Aincent greece was roughly the same as is today grece probably even more brown
ffs you germans contributed to europe 1% of what greece and rome contributed
and they werent fucking germans and they werent "white" they were greeks and romans

>>127835605
>hg1 connacht
wait what? theres that many irish genes spread about?

>>127847721
>Macedonians and greeks are rougly simmilar you have 20% them with E1 and 20 with I
>and 15%R1a 15% J
HOL UP

>>127851111
?
im still here

>>127851394
IS YOU SAYIN WE WUZ ANCIENT N SHIET?

>>127851717
Nope you are as much of Alexander the great as
west Turk thats what i am sayin

>>127834020
The most straightforward evidence is the continued genetic relationship between Greeks and residents of areas previously colonized by Greeks.

Greeks and Italians are always grouped together (1) on any chart or phylogenetic tree containing the two populations. in the case of Southern Italy they are almost impossible to distinguish. The influence of the Greeks is still evident in the genetic map of Italy(2, 3). The areas of Apoulia, Calavria and Sicily settled by Greeks are easily distinguished. A 7%–22% contribution of Y chromosomes from Greece to southern Italy was estimated by admixture analysis of the current populations of the two areas (4). Sicily is especially important because a clear distinction exists between the West which shows Semitic influence (Phoenicians + Arabs?) and the East where studies estimate the genetic contribution of Greek at 37% (5).

The most compelling (and easily understood) evidence is the extremely close relationship between modern Greeks and their former colonies: Magna Graecia (S. Italy and Sicily) but also all areas the Greeks settled around the Mediterranean. For example there is still similarity between the modern Greek population and the areas of Provence the ancient Greeks settled.

The coming of the Greeks to Provence and Corsica: Y-chromosome models of archaic Greek colonization of the western Mediterranean.

For Italy the similarities are there no matter the methodology and algorithm used. The populations are found next (or on top of) each other in the genetic maps and genetic trees.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21401952

Huh.. so then if Greeks are Turks and Greeks are so similar to Italians that they're bunched together in every genetic study then that must mean Italians are Turks too. Not only that but since Ancient Greeks and Modern Greeks are the same, I guess it must've been Turks that gave birth to Western Civilization then according to what you're claiming.

>>127851953
in that case don't ever respond to me again

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>>127836653
No it isn't you spazmoid

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You are all turks to me

>>127854540
GG

>>127842496
t. Janez
fuck off to your little cave you brown manlet monkey

>>127846976
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/05/170517101205.htm

>>127854741
Feels good being a native mate
We need to get all of these white folks out

>>127834020
>100%
>Get out

>>127854540
>Sardinia 50/75%
>the tallest white man in the world
pick one.

>>127834020
what's the matter Charlie, a Greek from Melbourne fucked your gf?

>>127855780
he is talking about I haplogroup
Not about turks

>>127855780
Dunno, i guess its different by region, for example in my village everyone is around 190 and we have no manlets, pretty weird tbhq.

>>127842140
fuck off dprec you wog cunt

>>127834020
Lmao so Italy is 65.5% turkish and Portugal 53.5% turkish? You probably believe this, too, kek

>>127854963
>study didn't compare Cypriot genetics to Levantine genetics

Intoyhetrashitgoes.jpg

>>127855780
The youth is getting growth spourts since the removal of Malaria, which was brought when we were at war with Carthage

>>127856156
Did you just call me a turk you fucking balkan monkey

>>127838034
The Ottomans didnt really settle immigrant groups in the Balkans. The opposite was more common, Balkans people were sent as janissaries to other parts of the Empire. The Ottoman Empire was more like the ancient idea of a empire not a settler state like Canada or USA.

>>127842862
>Treated better by the Turks

The Albanians were constantly in rebellion and were known on the empire as being trouble makers. Later it was the same with the Bosnians, sometimes they rebelled more than the Christians because they felt that being Muslims would give them more freedom than the Turks were willing to allow.

>>127856927
> we were at war with Carthage
You are roman as much as we are illiyrian

>>127858130
No you didn't understood what i said
The sardinian tribes were at war with Carthage for a while
They won a few battles, that made their elites underway various changes in their military, they made naval block on Sardinia, and the majority of sardinians went hiding in the mountains while others formed the sardinian-phoenician culture

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>>127841115
>Having Christians to pay bonus taxes was quite useful to them.
Actually Muslims had to pay much more money such as sadaqah etc. but the money Christians payed go to directly cash of Ottomans because of that turning to Muslim was banned sometimes

>>127857876
Lithuanians original humans confirmed

>>127859411
Actually, we are
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/05/170523083548.htm

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Delete this right now! Finns and Turks are Turanic brothers.

>>127857029
>The Ottomans didnt really settle immigrant groups in the Balkans
false
>The opposite was more common
false
>Balkans people were sent as janissaries to other parts of the Empire
janissaries are sultan's personal army, cosist of only 10.000 and they are where sultan is, so they are always in İstanbul.
again, false.

>>127859858
janissaries we're boys stolen from the balkans and made into soldiers.
They were usually fighting in the front lines

>>127860162
you are trying to explain what janissaries were to me?
kek.
janisarries were kapıkulu. they were never sent on the front lines, those are akıncıs and sipahis.
janisarries were last resort in the war due to their prowess and worth. they stand in the center, front of the sultan's line. they are personal guards, not mere soldiers which were sent to die.

>>127860668
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janissaries

>>127860816
>were elite infantry units that formed the Ottoman Sultan's household troops, bodyguards and the first standing army in Europe.
so? that's exactly what I am saying.

>>127860949
>They began as an elite corps of slaves made
up of conscripted young Christian boys, and became famed for internal cohesion cemented by strict discipline and order. Unlike typical slaves, they were paid regular salaries. Forbidden to marry or engage in trade, their complete loyalty to the Sultan was expected.[6] By the seventeenth century, due to a dramatic increase in the size of the Ottoman standing army, the corps' initially strict recruitment policy was relaxed. Civilians bought their way into the corps in order to benefit from the improved socioeconomic status it conferred upon them. Consequently, the corps gradually lost its military character, undergoing a process which has been described as 'civilianization'.[7] The corps was abolished by Sultan Mahmud II in 1826 in the Auspicious Incident in which 6,000 or more were executed.[8]
Didn't Sultans go to battles too?
For example your Sultan the Magnificent died in a battle in Croatia

>>127834020
In this thread you can see how similar the Anatolian native people and other european countries

>>127861302
how what you write in this is even related to what I say?
>Even though the Janissaries were part of the royal army and personal guards of the sultan, the corps was not the main force of the Ottoman military. In the classical period, Janissaries were only one tenth of the overall Ottoman army, while the traditional Turkish cavalry made up the rest of the main battle force.
at least read your source before sending. the source says exactly what I say.

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>>127834020
hahaha

fucking sandniggers

>Europeans
>white

>>127854963
>responding to the autistic Swede Turk

>>127857876
>Basques have their own colour

We are the master race

>>127861612
Why are you ignoring my point?
1. They were from the Balkan's when you stole them and trained them for battles
2. They fought in the front lines since the Sultans fought in the battles too
Before you say they didn't, your greatest Sultan died in a battle.

>>127838744
Nice flag you got there

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>>127838442

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>>127834020
Germany more Turk than former occupations of Ottoman Empire

>>127840529
kek

>>127861820
>They were from the Balkan's when you stole them and trained them for battles
how did I contradict that? I said they were kapıkulu, literally means "door slaves". read your source, it is written there.
>They fought in the front lines since the Sultans fought in the battles too
Sultan stands back in the war, they don't take up arms. Suleyman died of old age in his tent at war of Zigetvar. and he was not the greatest, he was an idiot, destroying his father's legacy.
>they didn't fight in the front lines see>>127861612
that's your fucking source says they are not the main battle force.

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>>127854738
says the mongol

>>127862335
>that's your fucking source says they are not the main battle force.
I literally never said they were, you're making shit up.
> and he was not the greatest, he was an idiot, destroying his father's legacy.
the empire was at its highest in his time.

>>127834020
To the retards who post these ethnic composition or halogroup maps, you should knwo they are all biased and were made sometime during the start of the 20th century in order for the Balkan nations to expand their "rightful clay" into Ottoman lands where these people made up the majority population
You should look at how the borders were drawn after the balkan wars for a more accurate demographic representation

>>127862536
>I literally never said they were, you're making shit up.
you said they were fighting it the front lines. I disagreed with that, your source disagreed with that. don't run away from the shit you said.
>the empire was at its highest in his time.
thanks to his father legacy. first inflation started in due to Suleyman's stupidity, in the latter years of his reign, again due to his incompetency.

>>127862919
>you said they were fighting it the front lines. I disagreed with that, your source disagreed with that. don't run away from the shit you said.
front lines =/= main battle force

>>127863059
front lines are the main battle force. they are sipahis. they fight in everywhere.

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>>127834020
So we're least roach? Nice.

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>>127834020
no they are not

>>127834020
nice d&c you fucking roach
turf off your proxy

>>127834020
>Greeks are turks
You are either joking or you are retarded , so which one is it?

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>>127838162
>>127837915
>>127863321
PUREST. WHITE. GENES. Confirmed, time and time again.

The cognitive dissonance is really hard with these ''aryan'' cucks.

>>127859858
[citations needed]

>>127864626
open and read a history book about ottomans.