Brit/pol/ - Laughing Portillo edition

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First for Mummy loving Daddy

Second for fuck Momentum.

>>127823445
All the parties are a fucking joke here.
Any places that are good to emigrate to?

How do brits feel about covfefe

>>127823607
1859738957D chess that is indistinguishable from foolishness

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mummy beautiful

>>127823607
Just according to covfefe (translator's note: covfefe means plan)

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really need young people to vote in this election.

we must destroy the tory majority

>>127823821
It's a another
>mid 30s children TV presenter talks about young people as if he is one, rapidly heading towards his midlife crisis

>>127823928
I've been puking most of it. Feel awful.

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>tfw David Davis will never be PM

>>127824127

I hope you get better soon anon.

>>127823821
She must be stump legged as fuck without heels.

>>127824153
Too competent, would never do..

Can I claim asylum here if Labour win, lads?

>>127823527

what porn scene is that an edit of?

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>>127824396
>Can I claim asylum here if Labour win, lads?
Only if you convert to islam

>>127823821

who is that fine woman?

>>127824396
As long as you paint your face brown and put a towel on your head. If they don't believe you at first, just claim your a child, they will have to let you in then.

>>127824494
But I would be escaping Britain, not integrating more into British society...

>>127824443
It was just some pic I found on bing image search (google is awful for finding porn). Think I already deleted the original though

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>>127824604
>>127824443
Found it in my download history

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ladies and gentlemen

if the tories win a 400 seat majority I will sing barbie girl for /britpol/

>>127824781

much appreciated

>>127824792
If Labour win a majority I'll dress up my cock as Jeremy Corbyn and do a puppet show for /britpol/

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>tfw Robert Kilroy-Silk will never be PM as head of the Veritas party

>>127823821
All voters are cucks

>>127824906
I knew a kid who named his WoW character Veritas after RKS

He was a typical huntard as you'd expect

>Friends I still keep in contact with from secondary school are all championing the "Tories could lose majority" story
>Except for one, that is just talking about Overwatch loot boxes
>tfw none of these people will actually bother to vote next week

How's your normiebook looking, lads?

>>127825062
Deleted everyone but family and close friends from normiebook recently. My twitter is flooded with corbynista's though

Westminster voting intention by white British respondents

CON: 67%
LAB: 15%
LD: 9%
UKIP: 8%
GRN: 4%

(via @ICMResearch / 26-29 May)


The state of this country

>>127825062

>>Except for one, that is just talking about Overwatch loot boxes

He hasn't bought the Votetard meme, truly a hero among mongs

>Jewish interviewer who called out Corbyn yesterday for not knowing how much the cost of a major policy is getting called a Zionist and compared to miss piggy by Corbynistas
You can't make this shit up lads.

>she will win by a landslide
>her opponent is too incompetent and unelectable
>the opposition has shot themselves in the foot by nominating such an idiot to run against her
>she is so far ahead in the polls she doesn't even think about her opponent any more
>she is experienced and looks ready to lead
>she's been in a senior government position for so long now, it's HER TURN!

hmmmm where have I seen this before?

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>tfw no "Count" Michael Howard as PM

>>127825149
is this bad or good? I sort of only look at UK politics rarely.

>>127825375
Its fake. Couldn't find it on the twitter account

HAPPENING:

>MASSIVE TRUCK BOMB NEAR BRITISH AND GERMAN EMBASSIES IN KABUL
>80+ DEAD

BEING SLID

>>127824399

RELIGION OF PEACE STRIKES AGAIN

>>127824887
>If Labour win a majority

No UK anon will be able to post for months due to butthurt and 100 replies of HA HA HA HA HA HA for each brit post

>>127825375

Labour are winning elections because of the non-white electorate.

They went around Luton yesterday on the politics show, all white people chose Tories, all non-whites chose Labour, with one of the blacks saying "i-i-i like the red rose, Labour for me."

>>127825490
I agree.

>>127825477

So what happens when the Tories get their 100 seat majority? All non-UK fags will be told to fuck off from brit/pol/.

>>127823445
That yougov poll is utter bollocks.

>>127825490
>"i-i-i like the red rose, Labour for me."

You laugh, but he's at least voting based on one of the few actual difference between the major parties. Just admit you're just voting for your favourite tie colour.

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>>127825733

No shit

>Let 3rd worlders in by the bucketload
>they bring their birthrates with them
>OMG why are the schools overcrowded???

Gets the old noggin' joggin'

>yougov realise their reputation is shot so they're going all in on a 7:1 upset in the hope that they'll be 'the one pollster who got it right'
I wouldn't be surprised if they've changed their weightings specifically for this reason

>>127825954

>Labour will increase council tax by at least 300%
>Labour will go for a soft Brexit
>Labour will make university free
>Labour will continue to give even more "free childcare" even though it's complete garbage that people should get 30 hours childcare for free

There are many radical differences you fucking moron.

>>127826060
Watch them change it a few days before the election to save face.

>>127825461
Terror attack in fucking Afghanistan is not a happening

>>127825477
yes I can see why an anti-semite PM would garner that kind of reaction on neo-/pol/

>>127825461

>just after we've been asked to contribute more troops to Afghanistan

How convenient...

Watching this manchester gig with one of the Gallachers and it's frightening how nonchalant everyone there seems to be about recent events.

>Treating radical islam as a bully
>If you stop giving them attention they'll go away
>They want you to get angry
>Just do nothing and carry on

Nice, except radical Islam is not a bully, but a pyscopath who wants you dead, and the best target is one who won't fight back and will let you walk up to them and slit their throat.

Utter madness.

>>127825461
Clearly it must be because of Afghanistan's foreign policy

>>127824272
T-thanks. Worst part is the sick feeling. I just feel on edge constantly like I'm waiting to throw up.

>>127825124
I feel you, lad. Have woken up to feverish pro-Corbyn retweets from several of my close friends. Odd thing is they're in the percentage that don't vote, so take that as you will.

>>127826226
>How convenient...
Not really, they get bombed all the fucking time.

>>127826439
this

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covfefe

>>127826100
>this is what Votetards actually beleive

All major parties are pro globalism anti brexit and centrist. It's the nature of democracy that only the most utilitarian parties survive.

What is wrong with Paxman now, I just watched the interviews from the debate and he's a complete asshole.

>>127826778
he just got caught cheating on his wife

>>127826778
>he's a complete asshole

He always was.

>>127826778
He was only ever good when let off the leash to drill people. Here he had to look inpartial and fair and he just comes across as boring.

>>127824443
If Labour wins the place will be a lunatic asylum. So yes if your mo mental enough.

You guys are aware how fucked you'll be if Labour get in and reduce the voting age to 16?

>>127825563
>So what happens when the Tories get their 100 seat majority?

Nothing, that is what it should be.
But you still have the chance to fuck it all up.

holy shit
>>>127820822
they're insane

>>127826439
It is a hard state of mind to wrap your head around, I agree. I honestly thought the death of children would be enough to rouse people to some form of action, instead of this hand holding crap.
At this point, I don't fucking know where the desire to actually combat this shit is going to come from, because it's certainly not from dead kids.

>>127826732

>absolutely no rebuttal

You are beyond stupid no wonder no one pays attention to you.

>>127827074
We'd become a communist nation if that happened. Too many kids in school aren'tfully aware of the atrocities committed under Communist regimes or what it really entails.

>>127827074
We're already fucked, all the under 16 vote will do is solidify the electorate catchment area even more to the center ground.

>>127827232
Don't reply to budget YKTD

>Labour SNP Plaid LibDem SDLP Sinn Fein Green coalition
>PR introduced
>HoL abolished and replaced with a PR chamber as well
>Northern Ireland referendum
>Scottish Referendum
>Brexit cancelled
>16 year olds can vote
>More mussies allowed it

Can you feel

I think it's beautiful when a lad becomes a tranny

>>127827506
If that happens I'm just going to abuse amazon prime and get a whole heap of spirits delivered so I can be eternally numb.

Redpill me on the minimum wage.

I don't how it's right big bosses and corporations make billions in profit while many of their workers struggle to feed themselves and pay the bills.

But I also acknowledge the effect it'd have on small businesses and inflation..

>>127825954
what, bribing retarded minorities with money? Fuck off bro.

>>127827637
>>127827667
>>127827745
Have a sex change lads

Estrogen rewrites your sex drive to like men

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>>127823445

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>>127827232
>gets BTFO
>pretends that he wasn't

Utter state of Votetards

>>127826439

Lol the media have spent more time talking about the IRA and Corbyn and Islam has been brushed under the carpet. Pathetic cucks.

>>127825490
Look at any Labour stronghold campaign: full of non-whites with sprinklings of white cucks cheering their own demise.

I live in a Labour safe seat and it is bolstered solely by the consistent black and Pakistani "votes". The liberal whites want to vote Green now, but they are being bred out by 'diverse Britons'.

These people think that the Conservatives are considered racists who will kill all minorities if they ever win an election (they honestly don't realise they've been living under the Conservatives for almost 7 years now).

>>127827667
Businesses want the middle/upper classes to subsidise poor pay through tax credits and bennies, while at the same time increasing immigration to drive wages down even further

It's basically as jewish as you can get

>>127827858
I'm afraid not being a little bitch like yourself, it's not going to happen.

Now off you fuck you filthy labour cunt.

>>127825986
>the momentum tards think they can actually stop the tories now
>on the night we get a tory majority of 98 or something

>>127827865

You completely moved the goal posts because you can't rebute the fact that Labour and the Tories are very different on many things.

>muh anti-brexit

Give me a fucking break the party is going hard Brexit.

INB4 i-i-it's all a ruse.

>>127827970
Don't you want to cuddle into a mans chest and feel your little faggot heart jump with joy?

>>127827999

High Labour polling only helps the Tories now because it will get the lazier people out to vote.

It also helps us because the leftists will be distraught when they are crushed on June 8th.

>>127827858
Sex changes don't exist

>>127827858

No thanks I don't want to inject horse piss into myself to pretend to be a girl.

brit/pol/ discord:

https://discordapp.com/invite/NpGARTd

>>127827953
Exactly. Increasing the minimum wage and introducing rent controls would cut the claimant count substantially. Remember, most people on benefits are in work.

Why should the state subsidies big business?

>>127827953
English teacher gets it.

The system relies on endless migration and wagecucks to pay for the useless ones through benefits. The useless ones are there as election fodder, so that one by one constituencies can return useless candidates.

The trouble is that the rate of migration and the ability of wagecucks to pay is getting strained and will break. Businesses need some proportion of the population with purchasing power to ensure profit. No one said it was a smart idea.

>>127828334
Not an English teacher

>>127828257
Get off my board faggot.

>>127828006
>he thinks the Tories are pro brexit

Fucking hell lad, I thought it was funny how retarded you are before. Now I'm worried about you.

>>127828492

>still can't rebut what I said

Are we not heading for a hard Brexit?

When we leave it all what will you say then?

>we'll rejoin soon

I bet, fucking moron, go back to posting your comic book character wherever you normally do that.

>say labour wants lots of Muslims
>claim corbo will shower us in brown people
>blame labour for all diversity
>yet tories sit on 7 year strong record of highest Muslim and non white migration in history
>may had complete and total control of borders for 7 years, yet let in more people you hate
>yet you still think you have to vote for her to stop them

Can anyone explain to me why you think this way?

At best both parties are useless at immigration and if you're only anti immigration it's UKIP or nothing, at worst labour is open about wanting immigrants while tories treat you like retards saying they'll lower it while doubling Muslim immigration from even Blair

Why do some of you still ride the tories = anti immigration train when they're demonstrably pro diversity, pro Islam and pro migration?

>>127828399
Holiday, working, or actually a native?

I am actually going to Worst Korea next month for some research work, what can I expect as a western wehgukin?

>>127826439
>with one of the Gallachers
Seeing his chance to become relevant again -- sickening.
Let's face it, these people are thick af. They don't know what to do or how to think, so they look to their gods for guidance. The gods are on debt so say whatever they think the (((purse holders))) will approve of.

>>127828618
>may had complete and total control of borders
oh yeah, that's why we didn't need to leave the EU to take control of our borders

>>127828618
migration is increasing and tories are the most recently elected party

>>127828618
Because Tories are for us, for few whites, not for many pajeets.

>>127828068
I'm not a lefty sorry.

>>127828492
As opposed to labour? Yea.. choices. At least May is respecting the will of the people.

No such thing as hard or soft brexit.

The vote was in or out. There is brexit, or not.

>>127828575
>hard brexit

Literally meaningless. It is impossible for us to become a sovereign nation at this point even if our law makers fully supported it, which they don't.

>>127828618
>Why do some of you still ride the tories = anti immigration train when they're demonstrably pro diversity, pro Islam and pro migration?
Because they are less those things than labour. And we only have a choice between the two.

>>127828678
you fucking idiot

leaving the EU meant we can take control of our European immigration, we're still letting in pakis from Syria, Iraq, Pakistan.

Those nations are not in the EU.

>>127828618
Because UKIP is no longer relevant and has to stand on a platform with the message "We're still relevant". Nothing will tell you a party is dead if that wont.

>>127828492
People don't realise that political parties are without principle and are driven entirely by what they consider their best chance of being elected. How they've yet to realise after such a long time is beyond me.

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>>127828781

>borders controlled
>laws controlled
>budget controlled

Yes not soverign at all just because of the great repeal bill which you clearly don't understand at all.

>>127828678
I said non EU migration. Do you think Muslims spawn in Spain? She let in 200,000 non EU migrants, having full and total control, half of which Muslim, total control to say no, while parroting a tens of thousands line

You think this will change? She won't keep lying to you?

Tories have had the power to stop Muslim migration over night in 2010 and didn't. Why would they now?

>>127828873

But what is considered "their best chance of being elected" goes hand in hand with "what people on average consider most important"

>>127828618
Only pro Conservative as they offer the only possibility of (a) winning the election and (b) delivering Brexit. UKIP is a fucking shambles and the rest of the parties are progressive cucks who would allow the UK turn into an Islamic Caliphate within one election cycle.

In order to really do something about migration we need to remove ourselves from the European Court of Justice AND end this notion that 'mass migration is inevitable'. You have to be able to boot useless foreign people out of the country without endless expensive appeals (we have enough native useless people to deal with). The scope of 'human rights' is so far beyond its original intention. Murderers, rapists, and other criminals are able to fight deportation because in their home country they MIGHT get tortured (no evidence needs to be provided that this will happen to the individual).

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>>127825563
No, there will still be laughter because we will still be fucked. This isn't a situation were we really have our guy in the race.

Corbyn has all the momentum now and continues to gain about a % point a day. By June 8 he will comfortably win a Blair-sized majority of loyal socialists.

It's assured now. Nothing the Tories can do. No need even to go out and vote, Corbyn fans. No need for Greens and Lib Dems to vote tactically.

>>127829014

I'll take Brexit and Labour getting decimated to be honest this election.

>>127828752
Democratic parties do not survive based on their ability to fix the country, they survive based on votes. Our country is highly diverse in its opinions and views, if a party goes too far one way or another it starts to alienate voters. This is why the most lucrative catchment area for voters is the center ground and this is why all major parties occupy this area.

Retards like you who get hard when someone says the buzzwords you like (while failing to actually deliver time and time again) perpetuate this broken system. Voting grey on black and white issues is fucking retarded.

>>127828851
The pajeets from the Commonwealth countries.

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>>127829062
Yeah, fine, but the cost of that is a large section of the NHS and the rape of the middle class. It's not exactly a win.

>>127828921
>Tories have had the power to stop Muslim migration over night in 2010 and didn't. Why would they now?
What is the point of this? We've just told you -- Tories are relatively better than Labour when it comes to making whites the ethnic minority. The only choice is between those two.
I know what your momentum talking points for 4chan are, and that this is a recommended approach -- but it's shit. Try another one.

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Corbee has no chance at all. Even without his daily fuck-ups he has no chance. Tories will be here to stay for the next decade folks. Yoof mostly wont vote again since are hypnotized by their smartphones. I have worked with many of them and they are simply thick as pigshit. They never had a chance. If they knew how they've been done over by the generations before them they MIGHT do something about it, but probably not. Brought up by faggots, educated by faggots and indoctrinated 24/7 by faggots to be the slaves they always will be. They would queue up for a microchip if snapchat told them too. As long as they have some kids of their own to pay for my state pension I'm happy.

>>127828905
Oh you're that retard that argues against my point of it being impossible for us to become sovereign by pointing out how impossible it is!

Stick around lad, could do with a laugh.

two black dudes just knocked on my door from jehovas witnesses.

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I love mummy.

>>127829070
No, you absolute cockwomble, you actually thick as fuck or what?

>Voting grey on black and white issues is fucking retarded.

The issue is in or out. Not the various ways we could be out with foot in the door.

Contradictory fucking mong. Might want to improve reading comprehension, stop being a faggot, and get rid of the trip you dumb cunt.

>>127827667

Without those people at the top of corporations making business run successfully then no one has jobs. And its not easy to run a huge business successfully, most of them work 80 hour weeks and most of them fail more than the succeed on average.

So the market pays a ton for successfull business leaders because otherwise business wont be successful.

So there should be issue with wage disparity if you enjoy having jobs in your country.

>>127829125

Not at all, the NHS needs to have its budget savagely cut, just yesterday they were hiring for a diversity administrator for £64K a year, that's 4 nurses worth.

Middle class aren't going to get raped either as Labour will increase council taxes by a minimum of 300% based on your land value, a punitive tax. The social care bill has been misunderstood and obviously due to its unpopularity the cap is going to be pretty low so people are still going to be able to pass on a lot more than they could under Labour. Remember if someone sold their house to go into care that would be it, Labour would take it all down to £23k.

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>>127823573
These aren't the halcyon days of the cold war. The whole world operates under the same ideology now, there is nowhere better to escape to.

>>127829269

no issue*

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MEGA

>>127829243
Blacks and Arabs are bearable to some extent, I can't stand shitskin pajeets, they're disgusting.

>>127828678
>the EU forced us to let in an inordinate amount of pakistanis

>>127828626
work, its great, enjoy some korean bbq and have sex with hot girls, what's not to like?

Also no crime, everything is clean, prices are cheap

>>127829269
Wage disparity isn't the issue, obviously a CEO deserves more pay than a cleaner. My point is the cleaner should be able to have dignity and relative safety in work, they shouldn't be working 40hrs and remain in poverty.

>>127829207

I've never even replied to you before because you're the saddo who posts comic book characters and ">voting" every thread which hardly anyone ever replies to, infact no one nowadays. I'll entertain you now though, the great repeal bill takes the already implemented EU laws we currently have in Britain and then allows for them to be removed afterwards, we can't just drop every law now after 40+ years of being inside this bureaucratic monster.

Now in parliament there is a thing called voting, and when repeals on laws are suggested they will be voted on and if the vote wins it gets dropped.

>>127828678

>implying the EU affected our control of non-EU migration
>implying we couldn't have enforced controls - allowed by the EU - to deport immigrants FROM the EU who couldn't find gainful employment

The latter was never used, even though it was an option.

>>127829284

The social care bill is worse for 2 reasons. Firstly, the cap originally was 23k on any liquid assets that the person had, meaning it didn't take their house or possessions into consideration and 2) it only applied to care within a care home, not care nurses at the residence. The tories both want to take the house into consideration and apply the cost to care at the person's home, too.

That wont too adversely effect the poor, because their assets, even with a house counted in, wont come up much further than 100k, and it wont badly effect the rich because they can pay it off without any issues. It will affect the middle class, who's only option to get out of it without paying will be to have their kids care for them.

So yeah, I don't buy that it would somehow be worse under the current system. You can currently get care at your house on the NHS, and wont with this reform.

>>127829267
Haha the utter state of you lad. As long as international law and foreign code is supreme to UK Law, then we are not Sovereign. There are no sovereign western nations left, except possibly the USA as the owner of the biggest stick so is the defacto legislator judiciary and executive.

Notice how we constantly demonise actual sovereign states? North Korea? Iran? Or nations attempting to retain actual sovereignty? Russia?

Utter delusion of Votetards kek

Britain is dead and is just a province of the Western Empire, and Empire currently in decline.

>>127829406

I get that, but thats the usual argument for higher min wages, to get upset about massively paid executives.

I also have massive issue with calling min wage poverty, If you have min wage in the UK you are in atleast the top 5% wealthiest individuals on the planet. You have more than enough to live a comfortable life if you are discipline.

The problem is that people are not disciplined, so then they want more wages rather than more discipline because its easier to cry about that than change themselves.

>>127829529

Oh so now it's international law! You'd like us to be like North Korea I see, how sovereign and prosperous they are.

Just stop m8 you're shit at this.

>>127829517
>it didn't take their house or possessions into consideration
Everyone's saying this, but I always thought it did? What were those stories about people selling their homes to pay for care about then?

>>127828956
People on average are idiots who don't know what's best for them and who exist in a culture where they're encouraged to merely maximise their own pleasure.

>>127829605
Private care, yes. My grandmother had to do the same, because the local authorities didn't have the specialist care she needed. For the most part, though, you don't need to go into private care home, as the counsil will operate many.

Let's pretend it's 3am on the 24th of June 2016 again

>>127829419
>if I explain something he clearly already knows then I win

Brilliant lad. But you're proving my point. The great repeal bill exists because it is impossible to remove foreign code from our law.

And parliament supports foreign code in our law, why on earth would they repeal it?

>>127829681

Irrelevant to the point i was making.

>>127829284
>minimum of 300%

If it's a minimum, why would mine half?

>>127829517

You're really glossing over Labour's policy here, take an example, if the wife in a family had to go into a dementia care home and the husband sold their house to downsize to a smaller house due to living costs, even if the wife had gone to the care home years ago then the government will grab half of the money from the sale of the house basically meaning that the husband cannot move yet cannot stay as living costs are too high. This has been the problem for many people.

This way it is fairer as people can pass off at least £100k on not just £23k, As I said there is going to be a cap, so either way you're going to be able to pass on more as Labour's policy at the moment has people in care homes for many years with their house just sat being unused to prevent them losing all the money which also damages younger people trying to purchase property.

The press has really torn the Tories a new one on this policy and I can't say they don't deserve it but it's far better than the Labour policy.

>>127829535
They might be wealthier than a street sweeper in India but that's a moot point m8. They're in poverty relative to the country they're living in.

I agree a lot of people don't have discipline over what comes in and what goes out but an increasing amount people in work simply don't have the money to afford the basic necessities of life.

>>127829584
>HURR HE WANTS US TO BE NORKS

Love the gymnastics you pull. Norks are getting fucked because the Western Empire is pushing it's global code of law against those who resist. We're already dead mate, it's an impossibility to fix this country now

>>127829711

It's not impossible at all, we could drop it on day 1 of leaving the EU, but then you have 40 years worth of law and regulations gone, protections and all, it would be literal anarchy in large sectors of the economy.

>>127829763

Because you live in a flat or apartment?

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>>127829706

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EviHAI0GNPw

I only follow Tory newspapers, so I just get Corbyn=bad articles, but how likely is he to win

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/aus/fag here.

Why is Labour doing so well considering their leader is a Marxist lunatic?

>>127829810

Again no rebuttal, you claim one thing, have that used against you then move completely on to "muh western empire" and excuses, at least remain consistent, christ you use a fucking trip and you talk like this, it's laughable.

>>127829778
>relative poverty meme
Best way to tell someone is a complete mong
>you don't own the 3 bedroom house you live in, only own a washing machine and not a dishwasher and you can only afford to eat out twice a month
>therefore you're in poverty
Fucking no lad

>>127829763

If you live in a shitty commie block it might not go up much but it will go up some, Labou are going to ADD this tax onto the council tax bill.

>>127829706
DARE TO DREAM

>>127829889
Not at all, the polls showing labour even close are using retarded 80% youth turnout figures

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>>127829900

They aren't really but they have offered everyone gibs that's why.

>>127829284
>needs to have its budget cut
>not it's hiring and managerial practices scrutinised and controlled

>>127829856
Terraced house actually.

So it's not a minimum then is it, it's a large home tax. Or people with large garden tax. Hardly "minimum of 3x" when most poor working class people in terraced homes or smaller (almost all of them) will actually pay less. And this policy is angled at them, not at some bloke with a 12 acre garden who's always going to vote tory anyway

>>127829774
I would argue that, in the situation you described, the elderly person would only have to stay in the same home and would then be able to pass on far more than 100k to their kids, which is not a possibility under the new plan. So, what's better? Having the choice to lose out on liquid assets? Or having no choice but to lose all but 100k of your assets in general? (If your partner is in care).

On top of that, the tories are introducing an inheritance tax, too, so we can't even get out of it fully if the kids care for the parents.

>>127829778

I disagree, even on minimum wage you have a ton of expendable income if you are disciplined with your finances.

A street sweeper in india who manages his money perfectly probably cant afford to feed his children healthily

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_United_Kingdom_general_election,_2017

This does not fit the current "SO CLOSE" narrative

>>127829400
>Korean bbq
>clean

I hate Korea for its American sycophancy

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>Oh your nan's become a bit forgetful? ALLOW ME TO GIVE HER HOUSE TO ONE OF THE BANKS.

>>127829535
yes but you can live on $ a day in these 3rd world countries. we dont even let homeless people sleep on the streets anymore, building those spiked benches and arresting them and what not. you need several 100s month just for subsitence crap food and a bedshit shithole in the first world uk. for this you have to work 40 hours a week on minimum wage. thats not much better than africa.

>>127829944
You're being obtuse m8. Not being able to afford food, gas and electric, rent etc. is poverty.

>>127829706

It was a comfy night.

>>127829994

Ultimately we need to go on to a German style / Euro style half insurance half state system but it'll never get past the people unless there is another terrible economic crash and we just really can't afford it anymore.

The NHS is a black hole, you can throw money at it over and over again and it'll just eat it up and nothing will change.

>>127829955
Source? Because as it's vague right now, labour are saying they'll replace council tax, and tories are saying they'll add it to council tax but there's been no official statement.

I'll maintain its a good idea for what labour wants to achieve (lower taxes on the poor) if it's a replacement. Although if it's additional, then I'll agree, dumb idea.

>>127830020

No because on a single pension and a large house people can not afford to live like that, they would have to sell their house or do that equity release garbage to live and lose everything anyway.

>>127830042
how old are you? do you live with your parents?

>>127829889
>how likely is he to win
Approaching 0

>how likely is he to be the next Prime Minister
About 1 in 10 I reckon

If Labour form the next government, they will not do so as the largest party and it will only be possible with the support of the SNP, the LibDems and a handful of smaller parties and it'll be a complete shitshow for the ~6 months it survives

>>127830096


http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/810616/general-election-2017-jeremy-corbyn-council-tax-bills-homeowner-john-mcdonnell

>>127830020
There's going to be a cap now, remember May Uturned on that immediately.
And also the tories aren't introducing an inheritence tax, it already exists. Labour will cut its thresholds.

>>127829716
What point were you making? If anything you were just further supporting my growing enmity towards modern democracy.

>>127830092
The government should implement a new flat rate health tax. If the public love are NHS so much then they'll need to pay for it.

>>127829814
Again, your argument is agreeing with me. State of you lad.

>>127829922
You can flail all you want and throw as many non arguments you want, but this country is a rotting corpse surrounded by decay and no amount of voting for grey parties knowingly offering impossibilities as their primary interest is votes will change that.

Stay mad Votetard.

All of you should transition

>>127830079
On a $ you can buy only a pack of cigarettes in Russia. Eating, public services, medical insurance - the overall cost of living isn't as cheap as you think.

>>127829400
cool, looking forward to it.

>>127830157

28

I live with my mum who is permanently signed off due to massive illnesses.

>>127830286
>>127828068
>>127827858
Sign me up

I have always wanted to be a girl

>>127829694
I see, cheers.

>>127830371
Welcome aboard :3

>>127830282

You clearly can't read and this is going to be last waste of time responding to you, I am not agreeing with you I am telling you how you are wrong. We can control our own laws in 2 years time and they are all technically our laws.

If you don't think former EU regulations are going to be removed then you are beyond stupid since as how much flak the EU regulations have gotten from the right of the Tory party.

You seem to read too much Peter Hitchens (how anyone can read that pseudo intellectual I don't know) you'll probably blame it all on drugs.

At least do something valuable with your time like listen to Jonathan Bowden or something.

>>127830248

Youre also wrong in assuming voting preferences are based on intelligence.

They are factually based on personality. which is also uncorrelated to intelligence.

Educating everyone to a perfect level wont change voting preferences very much

>>127830010
I also live in a terraced house in Nottingham, relatively low priced part of the country. Current council tax is about 90 a month so ~1080 a year

Sale price of similar property on my street is £150-160k

Assume land value is 55% of price, which is average for British residential land use.

3% of that is £2475-£2640

Call it £215/month.
No way can I afford that.

>>127830082
No I'm not. The threshold for what is considered 'poverty' in this country is utter nonsense. Someone who works a 40 hour week on minimum wage will only find themselves in poverty if they have dumb as shit spending habits.

There /are/ people in this country who genuinely can't afford to pay their heating bills or feed themselves properly they're not gainfully employed, responsible people. They're people who are idiots and people who have found some grave misfortune. The former aren't helped by giving them more money to waste and the latter are rarely gainfully employed anyway so a higher minimum wage won't affect them.

Regardless it's largely a moot point because increasing the minimum wage invariably drives up the cost of living as well.

>>127830074
its not really that bad, the problem is as an english speaker you tend to only meet Koreans who speak english, typically westerboos themelves

Learning Korean has allowed me to talk to non-English speakers who are infinitely more interesting and fun to be around

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>>127830135
Remortgage the house to support living there. You may lose out on a few dozen grand, but that's better than up to 200k that seems to be the case in some instances.

This wont affect me, anyway. Family has the plan for my grandmother to liquidiate all our assets, put everything in our name and give her the paper to control the account. So long as she lives 7 years, government can't touch one penny. Not giving them shit.

>It is important to understand the limitations of the model results. First, they are estimates of current voting intentions, not a forecast of how people will vote on 8 June. Panellists tell us how they intend to vote, but they may change their minds and we do not attempt to quantify this uncertainty. Second, the samples in each constituency are too small to be reliable by themselves and are subject to more than just sampling error. To compensate for small sample sizes, we rely on a model that pools data across constituencies. This uses data from panellists who live in other constituencies to augment the small number of actual interviews conducted in a constituency. The model is based on the fact that people with similar characteristics tend to vote similarly, but not identically, regardless of where they reside. While this has worked well in the past (our MRP model in the 2016 EU Referendum consistently showed that more voters favoured leave than remain, and that Hillary Clinton would win the popular vote in the 2016 US Presidential election by a narrow margin, but that midwestern battleground states were too close to call), models cannot produce estimates as accurate as a full scale poll in each constituency.

The state of Yougov...

>>>127830092
The problem is someone needs to have the balls to admit that, if its the case, and make the change. If not then slowly undermining the current system is despicably jewy - despite all of its failings and inefficiencies it is undoubtedly suffering from underfunding in its current form.

>>127830182
A "cap" that they have not quantified and was introduced out of the panic that the polls slumped.

Yes, that really gives me hope that the tories are doing what's best for us, and not just for them.

>>127830560
...what the fuck did I do to that middle paragraph

>>127830418
The more you highlight how ingrained foreign code is into our law the more your prove my point that it is an impossibility to remove it, even full LARP tier as you seem to see the world, with a fully unified and fully understanding electorate represented by a fully supportive parliament with no interference from foreign powers, it could not be done without sending the nation into chaos. Thanks for BTFOing yourself Votetard

>>127830674
The polls haven't slumped

>>127830560
It's a very nice country. Lots of people in Russia live worse even though they are decent workers. The wealth is coming to the rich, that's the system which had been establishing gradually after the USSR had broken.

>>127829269
Those people at the top get paid a lot to do tough jobs, that's true. But saying they "create jobs" or without them there'd be no jobs is very strange supply side bs.

Those jobs exist because there's demand for what those jobs produce.

That demand is 99% of where jobs come from.

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>>127830705
It did on the day of the manifesto leak. Besides, Ugov polls (which are traditionally conservative) are now shockingly close, compared to the 25 point lead she had in the beginning of this election. I'm with Farage on this one: She'd have been fine had she just kept it about Brexit and kept her manifesto vague.

>>127830782
Leak? Release. No idea why I wrote leak.

who else /libdem/ here

>>127823568
They keep trying to get me to join. I supported JC before I realised he was pandering on immigration /EU. I think he knows. Sad!

I'll tell you something, this "covfefe" shit definitely has legs.

Very easy to trigger Amerifats with it.

>>127830782
You and Nige are taking the media narrative to strongly. This election isn't that close, it's the media trying to meme it into reality.

>>127830701

It could be done but not over a 2 year period it would take longer than that but not that long.

Not one of my points countered.

Not one intelligent remark made.

Well done.

>>127830454
The suggestion was really that people fail to correctly assess what is best for them, whether they think only in the short term or they fail to correctly predict the long term.

I agree that pinning everything on intelligence and rational thinking is a mistake and that people are much more driven by emotion and personality than they would like to believe/admit.

I also don't even believe you can educate everyone to a perfect level; I'm very much of the belief far more is nature than we would like.

>>127830782

Yougov and Survation are atrocious m8.

>>127830782
Yougov is atrocious. They put out that 55% remain poll on June the 23rd.

Can't wait for the Tory majority so we can easily get in the legislation requiring the microchipping of Momentum shills.

What's your voting history lads?
2005: Labour
2010: Tory
2015: Tory
2017: Labour

>>127830659

Why not? We deserve better but the NHS fanatics keep taking our money.

It's the 21st century, it's not black and white, you don't need full public ownership of health services.

It's been tested in other countries and works, I'd rather stay in a German hospital than a fucking NHS one any day of the week.

The only way to kill it is to let it eat itself, then tell the public how much money is being put into it per year per person, they will see they spend more than they would under a semi-private system and might start to not care as much about it.

>>127830991
Impulse and momentum

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>>127830899
I never said it WAS close,objectively. I said it was shockingly close.Especially given the circumstances.

>>127830078
Didn't they reverse that policy?

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>>127823445
Mass immigration to continue under Labour. Well obviously

>>127831019
>Voting for labour now
Fucking why? Diane kill whitey abbot will be in charge of immigration

>>127831079
For anyone that's been around for a few elections, it's not that shocking. We're essentially a country of communists, what's shocking is that May might actually win.

>>127831079

Polls when there is no election on are always going to be out there because people are not thinking seriously about an election, also it was during May's honeymoon period.

Core Labour voters are always going to go back, they are that cuckolded.

>>127830902
You countered all your own points... and the ones you didn't agree with me.

Wait...

Do I just have to keep replying
>none of my points countered
Regardless of the previous post and I win?

Britain's dead lad, stop wasting your time.

>>127831081

Yes but it's concerning that they thought it would fly in the first place.

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>>127831019
>What's your voting history lads?
2005: Too young
2010: None
2015: None
2017: Dick Rodgers

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WHY SHOULD I BLOODY HAVE TO PAY FOR A FUCKING PHOTO I SHOULD GET IT FOR FREE

The state of these leftists, they are so entitled.

>>127831079
Yougov is back up to +7, but is using retarded turnout figures, along with survation.
ICM shows the tories 12% up with more likely turnout. Yougov is only sampling people signed up to their website, which is problematic because the young people on it are those most likely to vote.

>>127830899
I agree. You'd think he'd be more weary of the polls lol. I wouldn't be surprised if Labour heartland goes blue/purple. There overall percentage is going to tank for sure!

>>127831180

Say what you want, you read it how you want I couldn't care less, you don't even vote after all so who gives a toss about you.

http://www.strawpoll.me/13070679

Reposting this poll from a couple of days ago

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>>127831219
The young vote will definitely make any online polling worthless. That said, I think the elderly vote may potentially sway left, because of the furor surrounding the care bill. I've been listening to LBC lately and day after day it's elderly callers saying they always vote tory, but will vote Labour this election because of that social care fuck up

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Privatise the NHS! The best health care should be an aspiration not a hand out

>>127831361
>http://www.strawpoll.me/13070679

Eyyy, my poll!

>>127826692
Amog

>>127831394
Oh great, the elderly will fuck us all because of their bennies

>>127831421
Thought it was best to post it more so we can get a more accurate picture. The sacred north still dominates too!

>>127831217
lol I know its different for you guys but don't you have to pay for more stuff besides the photo? Is your insurance good enough to cover everything but that?

>people (including anons here) getting antsy over the implications of stripping assets from the elderly to fund their care

Bigger issues here lads, dom care is going to collapse within a decade and home care will inevitably follow.

We're going to get royally fucked by the rising minimum wage, dom care operates on quite a tight profit margin as it is and councils will do everything they can to avoid raising contract rates. Once the dam bursts home care is going to get absolutely reamed with people who don't really need to be in a home and the operating costs of care homes are significantly higher than those of dom care firms.

We're also going to get reamed by the inevitable push to get zero hours contracts banned. It might not be tory policy but it will resurface as a pressure issue before the next election. Margins aren't wide enough to guarantee hours we don't know will be available. This isn't because of inefficiencies in the particular business I work for, it applies to the whole industry. We'd be fucked, and a whole lot of councils and a whole lot of old people would be fucked alongside.

>>127831484
The south will rise again!

>>127831496
Surely this is bait. SURELY.

>>127831341

>who gives a toss about you.

The same amount of people that give a toss about you lad, zero. Nobody gives a shit about any of us, only how we can benefit them. Hence a poltical system motivated purely by votes and not actual positive change.

>>127831079
i have zero confidence in pollsters.

i don't even think they are trying to push an agenda anymore... they need to get this right to save their credibility. i just think people lie and their methodology is shit.

we will see. i expect they will fuck up again.

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>>127831394
>they say we aren't a civilization on the road to ruin

>>127831471
Keep in mind that much of the grey army is still made up of uninformed care home patients who would vote for a lamp post if it had a blue ribbon around it. I think it's safe to say that the 65+ vote will still be overwhelmingly Tory.

>>127830782
>Ugov polls (which are traditionally conservative)
Crock of shite lad, YouGov have always overestimated Labour in the run up to general elections. Records of this are readily available via google.

Don't fall for the 'YouGov is owned by a tory so it must be biased towards tories' meme, it simply doesn't manifest in reality

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What happened to /r/ukpolitics? Has Momentum taken it over?

>>127831203
>2005: Labour
>2010: Lib Dems
>2015: Greens
>2017: UKIP (probably)

>>127831614
True. People could also act like they're switching, then get in the voting booth and think of corbyn/diane/mcdonnell/thornberry and go back.

>>127831666
It's definitely moving to the left.

>>127824513
Claudia Winkleman

>>127831019
>2010: Tory
>2015: Didn't vote
>2017: Tory

>>127825461
Clearly because of afghan opium plantations

>>127831501

They'll drop NEETbux before they drop care funding. At a push, you can sell forcing the young and healthy into work. You can't sell nans dying en masse and ignored in shitted pants in tiny flats.

Your tax base is also dependent on the idea of elderly care; if people think they're going to be left to rot once they can't get around so well any more, why the fuck would they contribute?

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This is the Green candidate for Coventry South. Absolute state of this country.

>>127831217

Why should a taxpayer have to pay for the photo and printing of a luxury item? The picture isn't medically important. It's a keepsake. The ultrasound is in medical records if they go to a different pediatrician

Also I like how this tweet inadvertently implies you should only get your first borns photo free. Afterbirth kids are scum anyway who will never amount to anything. So I understand why parents wouldn't care to have their photo

If you're not a first born you have no value

>>127831019

2005 GE: Conservative
2009 EU: Didn't vote
2010 GE: Conservative
2014 EU: UKIP
2015 GE: Conservative
2017 GE: undecided UKIP/Con

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>>127825062
I don't really bother with FB anymore. Never was big on pictures and what little I do take for my photography I tend to keep to my private Instagram that only a few close friends can see.

I got tired of seeing repetitive statements from people who don't know very much about politics but have all the opinions on it.
I do use FB messenger though.

>>127831394
>I think the elderly vote may potentially sway left, because of the furor surrounding the care bill
There's no evidence of this happening. The 65+ demographic was 65% tory before the manifestos released and it's 63% tory now. That shift is well within the margin for error.

Emily Thornberry is fucking incapable of not making passive aggressive facial expressions when someone else is talking.

>>127831838
The last days of Rome.

We have Barbarians at our door in Calais and inside our country.
We have our politicians fiddling.
And here we have the decadence and sexual degeneracy.

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>>127831690

>>127832082

I'll be honest, watching her on Sky right now, I'm impressed by her weight loss.

>>127830782

It's in YouGov's best interests to make it look close as it drives traffic to their site, as well as media outlets. Nothing better for ad rev with all those people clicking shit.

>>127831019
Too young until
2015: UKIP
2017: God knows

>>127831690
Christ almight that's a change of heart

>>127831876

Exactly, it's not a medical necessity.

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>>127832131

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>Labour will decrease immigration
Who actually believes that bullshit enough to keep spamming it here?

>>127832382
Needs Scruton at the end

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>>127832382
Nah mate, we all get burnout at the last part. Need peter at the bottom, not fucked-eyes.

>>127832384
LARPers.

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>>127832384

>>127831019
Hmm got that wrong, think it was
2001: Labour
2005: English Democrats
2010: Conservatives
2015: UKIP
2017: Conservatives (no ukip candidate)

>>127832457
The mail's writers are LARPers? Now it all makes sense.

Anyone made a meme ball on the conservative poll crash?

>>127831496

You have to pay a flat rate for prescription drugs.

Unless you live in Northern Ireland, Scotland, or (?)Wales.
Or are old, young, or disabled.
Or have cancer.
Or are on bennies.
Or lie on the form, chances of being caught are miniscule and my pharmacist always looks surprised when I proffer money along with the prescription.

The system is ridiculous and a massive drain on it is people getting 'free' prescriptions for paracetamol and so on which they could buy for 35p at Boots but want for free, costing the NHS a prescription charge plus whatever the pharmacist charges them, plus however much a GP appointment costs.

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>>127831019
2010: Lib Dem
2015: UKIP
2017: Abstain

>>127832444
>peter
>not for brainlets

>>127831819
>They'll drop NEETbux before they drop care funding.
Dropping care funding isn't the risk, there's no way that'd ever make it past Parliament and the media. The risk is artificially increasing operating costs.

When a small retail business gets fucked by increased operating costs, it cuts its staff, cuts its range of products or services or finds itself unprofitable and closes down. That's a shame, because people lose their jobs and a community loses a local business.

When a dom care business gets fucked by increased operating costs, it cuts its staff or finds itself unprofitable and closes down. That's a bit more than a shame, because it means a hundred elderly and infirm people have lost care they're dependent on and now either need to be put into a care home at greater expense or taken into an NHS hospital.

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>>127832501

>>127831019
>2005: Labour
>2010: SNP
>2015: SNP
>2017: SNP

>>127832496
1. that's the Telegraph, not the Mail.
2. both ran stories about labour INcreasing immigration. not DEcreasing it
Even the front page you posted says this in the body of text. Try _reading what you post_ and not being an idiotic headline babby.

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>>127825149
I don't have much faith in polls either way. I do know Labour will let in the gimmegrants and ban white people.

>>127832526
Why are you abstaining, anon? Curious

>>127831019
'10 LibDem
'15 UKIP
'17 tory

We have a UKIP candidate standing this year but he's a complete mong and the tories came within 2000 of unseating the Labour incumbent last time

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>>127832664
Mail ran the story much more prominently than the Telegraph, and any retard could get that is what I meant. Want to btfo?

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>>127832693
My choice is Labour or Plaid Cymru

>>127832635
>voting for the scottish mass immigration party

>>127832526
Anyone who voted Lib Dem in 2010 should have lost their voting rights desu.

>>127832242
I really don't feel like it is so much... at least not on principals!

>2005: Labour
My parents voted Labour I thought the Tories were "evil". My god I hate new labour now.
>2010: Lib Dems
Was disgusted by the digital rights bills of Labour, and wanted free tuition. My god i hate the lib dems now!
>2015: Greens
I always thought the greens were retards but couldn't vote for Ed Miliband or Cameron and knew they wouldn't win.
>2017: UKIP (probably)
Always been anti-Islam as a liberal. Always been pro-democracy and anti-EU as a liberal.

>>127832772
>>127832496
Are you retarded? I meant despite the obvious want for labour to increase immigration how can mongs here come to say they will lower it.

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>>127831019
Lib Dem
UKIP
UKIP
CONSERVATIVE

>>127832818
Seat?

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>>127832910
I never did?...
Fucking hell, you're on a mission to pick a fight, eh?

If Corbyn has a chance at winning, anyone considering voting for him for the inevitable swing to the right afterwards?

>>127832821
>Being Scottish and voting for a party that just uses your seats to push English agenda

Literally the role of Scottish Labour up until 2010. Just assumed they'd walk away with 25+ Scottish seats and did nothing to earn it.

>>127832799
But he DOESN'T support a hard BREXIT. He's been all over the place on that.

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No room for white people with Corbyn and Labour.

Labour's own propaganda tells you how it is going to go if they win.

>>127832998
Can you even read mate? You're not making a point at all. My original post was asking how ANYONE can believe labour will cut immigration despite how obvious it is corbyn and diane love it. Then you randomly called the mail larpers despite them running a story saying immigration will be up under labour.

>>127832799
>Australian
pottery

>>127833023
>voting for a party that just uses your seats to push English agenda
English votes for english laws is in effect now though?

>>127833011
A very good point. I may

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>>127833166
Fuck no, accelerationism is a fucking meme, new labour didn't make anything swing to the right afterwards.

>>127833163
Doesn't matter. Labour have done nothing to earn my vote in the last 3 elections, a lot of Scots feel that way

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>>127833120
Look, I get it. You're autistic and can't tell when somebody is being ironic/sarcastic, even less so when you're reading text. How about you calm down, stick your thumb back in and move on, eh?

>>127832680
You know that quote has no source?

>>127833011
>If Corbyn has a chance at winning
He doesn't
>inevitable swing to the right
There won't be a swing to the right, there'll be a swing to the tories and we'll be back exactly where we are now but with 5 more years of pakis and no overseas territory