U.S. successfully intercepts I.C.B.M.

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>>127806982
nice

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cool

>>127806982
>test

Yeah that means nothing. The US has faked plenty of missile tests before.

Not saying it can't be done or isn't probably, just saying this isn't reliable information.

this image reminds me, when i was like 10 or 12 i fantasized about my dick reaching the sky, just like image related
dreams shattered, i ended up with a japanese penis

>>127806982
>successfully
>successful
>implying

You realize the U.S. military would never admit to a failure, especially on the cusp of a possible major conflict, right?

PICS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!

>1 MISSILE

ye good luck stop 5.000

>>127806982
>MAD BTFO

We global hegemony now.

If you fuck up the balance of power too much the Russkies will probably do something drastic.

>>127806982

Garbage the post by stinky the poster.

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>>127807793
Russia's military might as well be North Korean tier. All they can do is threaten to use nukes.

ICBM "class" target......jews jewing jewingly.

>>127807444
trips of truth

>>127807726
Theyve admitted to multiple failures, look up their hypersonic tests that have failed. It happens. No one cares unless its multiple failures and your being a total fag about it like NK does or Iran. Fuck you know how many V2 rockets blew up in embarrassing manners before the germans invented rocketry
successfully?

>in ideal controlled test conditions

>>127808460
to get to realistic conditions, you start testing ideal ones
think about this when you request the technology to be shared with the UK

>>127806982
Just 1? Don't they have a 50% failure rate during test conditions? Meaning it's probably even worse when actually used outside of testing?

This *might* be effective for NK, but Russia is going to send in more than several hundred if it came to it.

>>127806982
How is this a big deal? I remember reading stuff about the US being able to use lasers to detonate about anything out of the air before it ever gets close to US soil.

I assume we have tech ten years ahead of whatever is publicly known and if we ever have to use it, people are going to shit themselves.

>>127807740
In 5 years we could stop 100

>>127808661
lol these interceptors won't save you, burger brains.

>>127808310
the thing is, Billy
they intercepted an ICMB, was it an enemy ICMB?
i mean if i decide to punch myself i will deflect the blow
did the missile had same speed/manouver capabilities as the russian/chinese icmb missiles?

They didn't intercept an ICBM but and ICBM size target. Total fine print horseshit. Russian missiles are generations ahead of the Amerikans because they didn't have MIC hedge funds lobbying for tits on a bull military gear and invested on a bang for buck basis.

>>127808914
still, the UK will beg for them

>>127807625
Hey! Same.

>>127807561
This is the first time we've ever intercepted one dipshit

>>127809191

You didn't though faggot.

>>127807625
Mine is average but still mildly disappointing.

Saw this test during my lunch break today. It's always fun to see the rockets and missiles going off. Can't wait for the norks to nuke me ;_;

nukes arent real you idiot

The US still only has about a 50% success rate with ICBM interception tests.

We already had that ability.

In an actual nuclear war the enemy would send out thousands of missiles rendering the ability moot

>>127808954
>doesn't even know the proper acronym
>thinks he can participate in the conversation

What's the deal with those debnts?

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Germany and France take notice.
There's a new sheriff in town.

>>127807740
>>127808460
>>127808914

You'd be surprised what 5-10yrs can do.
>>127809080
What are you trying to say ?

>>127809343
oh for fuck's sake
can't wait for this '''''''''''''evidence''''''''''''''

>>127809191
Top kek. Intercepting your own test missile is like parrying your own punch

>>127809833
How else would you test it

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>>127809579
>thinks i care

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>>127809570
>thousands of nukes
Only so many of them are ready to be fired and what made this test different is it intercepted it in space before the warheads separated.

Instead of hitting all 18 warheads from a nuclear missile on reentry they now only have to hit 1 missile in space before they seperate.

>>127809908
Intercept norks test ICBMs

>fake and gay... repeat...fake and gay.

>>127806982
Russia unfortunately is not on suicide watch. They have VERY FAST ICMBs & submarines that will send nukes too close & too low to be intercepted. We should still never pick a fight w them.

>>127809570
>In an actual nuclear war the enemy would send out thousands of missiles rendering the ability moot

The enemy doesn't have thousands of missiles. Why do you comment about things you are ignorant about?

>>127809833
Lets see your country do it, or get something into low earth orbit for that matter.

>>127810183
Because the chinks don't lie about their ICBM inventory, and they would never fire decoys along with the nuclear warheads

>>127810433
>Because the chinks don't lie about their ICBM inventory,
Do you have any evidence that they are lying? Or are you just hoping that they are because its what you want to be true?

>>127810283
Uruguay might be the least likely country to ever get nuked

>>127809833
sup dawg?
first you steal my flag then my quote?

Uruguay you are cool

>>127810433
I don't think you understand that the missile itself is almost as valuable as the warhead.

>>127810567
Obviously I don't, but do you really think they are telling the truth?

>>127807740

You know you don't need the decimal point with integer numbers like 5, right?

>>127806982
Ruskies have sub based missiles that can't be intercepted like ICBM's. This BTFO's the norks though

>>127810283
>Lets see your country do it
Oh I didn't realize you were on the NASA team lmao

>>127810705
It's not only about value. It's a lot harder to build nukes without people noticing than missiles. Besides, you don't need to build nuclear capable ICBM missiles, you just need to build something that tricks interceptors into think they might be missiles.

>>127810633
I'm sorry I didn't look. I guess the same thing happened with the flag? Maybe ours is older though

>>127810710
Well, I have a copy of International Security that just came out. It has a great analysis of US imaging and how it relates to counterforce targeting. It illustrates how difficult it really is to manufacture ICBMs and hide them. Even tracking mobile systems using MSI tech is compared to systems just 10 years ago.

If you go to JSTOR I'm sure you can find it. And since you seem to insist that you are educated about this topic, I'm sure you would have access to the journals that focus on security topics so that you can be well informed before you reach your conclusion.


Right?

>>127806982
So does this end nuclear deterence and MAD? I don't want to go to war, guys

>>127811033
I'm not a faggot neet loser like you

>>127811411
MAD hasn't been a thing since the 1970s, anon. /pol/ just has too flimsy a grasp on actual policy to understand it.

The new hotness in the world of deterrence is 'Warfighting'.

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LOL as if we don't see everything, everywhere, every time

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>>127811411
The days of MAD are numbered. As soon as we build enough of these anti missiles systems it's out the window.

The key word is "assured". They will always probably, or possibly be able to strike us but because we have a defense against ICBMs and they don't it is by no means "assured".

>>127807561
We better hope the Russians believe we actually cannot do this because, if they ever believe the US is about to become invulnerable to Russian ICBM's, we're dead.

>>127811599
wtf diplomatic policy has to do with the military?
at this exact moment you have people on multiple sites ready to press the button you dum dum

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>>127806982

1. shoot down ICBM
2. strap on nuke: short-mid range nuke that is as fast as cutting edge anti-ICBM tech


So...this is checkmate right?

>>127808051
Unfortunately the Soviets beat us to the ICBM. Their R-7 rocket was the first actual ICBM ever built.
The first design of an ICBM was done by Wernher von Braun. So technically neither the US or USSR invented the concept of the ICBM.

>>127811268
All armed countries are lying about their nuclear capabilities. They say enough that it will act as a deterrent, but not enough that it will help the enemy build up defenses or know where to look.
The intelligence services of some countries know to a certain extent the 'real' capabilities of some other countries, but of course not all. Because they all know this, a polite "don't publish mine and I won't publish yours" system exists. When I say publish I mean literally post it on wikipedia, I'm not counting sharing intel with allies etc

As far as the difficult in building them, I'm sure it is tremendously difficult, especially for a country like North Korea or Iran. Russia is a bit of a different story, and China much more so. If you've seen the sort of wacky massive projects that the Chinese have undertaken, sometimes for retarded reasons, you'd know it's entirely within their reach that they might be harder to trace than you'd think. I wouldn't put undisclosed underground mines or factories past them, but no need to go into specifics, it's safe to assume there's a good chance they've come up with a way to get around being obvious that I can't even imagine.

But of course, if you want to take that publicly available goy magazine's word for it, I won't blame you. It makes sleeping easier, doesn't it?

>>127812002
This is a good example of what I was just talking about. This poster is so clueless he is just rambling.

Did you really just ask what nuclear policy was?

>>127806982
america already had this technology. problem is that it's only been successful on half of its tests

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>>127812210
>But of course, if you want to take that publicly available goy magazine's word for it, I won't blame you. It makes sleeping easier, doesn't it?
>>127811268
I'm sure you would have access to the journals that focus on security topics so that you can be well informed before you reach your conclusion.
>Right?

stop being mean to each other

>>127810609
Also least likely to go to any other celestial body outside earth

>>127812210
And of course you have so much evidence to support your conclusion here and its totally not based on what your 'expert' opinion is, right?

I mean its not that you would just be hoping and drawing conclusions with no real evidence to support it?

But you are right. I remember when the US agreed not to publicise Soviet missiles in Cuba.
And the US military, which love to spend money, would never discover that its opponents had more capability than they published, and would never use that to justify a higher budget to congress?

And imagine if the US people found out that the US military was actually stronger than they said they were?
They would hate that, amirite?

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>>127812045
Pretty much. Our conventional military is decades ahead of everyone else technology wise. Within 5-10 years we will have rail guns and lasers on our stuff not to mention our military will always be the biggest and most spread out over the globe.

All the other countries can do is threaten nuclear war. If they lose that then they are at the mercy of The United States military.

>>127810609
good point. I'm swinging over cunt! Accept BTC to sleep under your house?

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>>127809237
>>127807561
Germanistan and Canuckida. Who would have thought these 2 shit holes would still be around this day and age?

>>127812703
I know.
It's mean to ask people to support their opinions when those opinions are based on nothing.

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>>127807793
>do something drastic
like invade Canada

>>127812257
no i asked if you are naive enough to believe the nations are playing by some hippy rules
like what? i have to take the word of any goverment on the amount of nukes they have?
or if they have nukes? for all i know my stupid goverment has nukes
oh wait, maybe i will trust the UN inspectors
this is not "vaccines are cancer" shit, this is fuckin common sense

>>127812857

Germany doesn't exist faggot....unlike your gunt and need to fellate your CAPCOM superiors.

>>127812745
those are some grand delusions

>>127812745

This risible non-test = flying cars of a never arriving future.

>>127812745
you are kidding right? 5-10 years?!

Everybody forget highly classified projects and are thinking about 60's fucking missile technology...

I'm pretty sure there will be a fucking mind controlling Pepe fucking firing rail gun slugs and lasers out his japseye . Who honestly knows?

Are spies that much better now? they are human...so no!

mark my words... like Hiroshima and Nagasaki

FKNBOOM!

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>implying russia gives a fuck about a zionist plot to permit the us to show off last gen tech just in order to propel their "mah russia" agenda
nu/pol/ was a mistake

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>>127808954
>flag
>talking about missile systems

>>127806982
i watched the whole vid waiting for it to get intercepted. even if it failed i think theyd say it was a success if theres no proof

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>>127813064
Don't worry, leaf. Most of our missile defence stuff is in Alaska so we'll protect you.

I can't wait to see these railguns be used in combat. I think they plan on using at least 1 next year.

>>127813336

Military is allowed to lie about anything to anyone except themselves.

>>127813327
>flag
>expert level: faggot
s400 whoop your ass noob

>>127813049
>naive enough to believe the nations are playing by some hippy rules
NewSTART is a treaty.
Contrary to what you seem to think, hiding nuclear weapons is not a good idea. It jeopardizes stability.
The fact that I even have to explain this to you reinforces your ignorance on this subject.

You have invented a world where the US MIC, given a perfectly rational reason to spend money (the Chinese/Russians are lying about NewSTART DEs) would not use this.

You supposed justification is that the US is ALSO exceeding the treaty limits and you for some reason think that the US populace, who elected a man who thinks that NewSTART is a bad deal, would see this as a bad thing.

Your entire premise revolves around the silly idea that the people in the US would be APPALLED to discover that their military was hiding something and SHOCKED to discover it was actually stronger than it claimed.

And all of this without a single shred of proof beyond 'common sense' that shows a stunning lack of awareness about the US populaces love affair with its military.

>>127813725
Just wait until they declassify the D-2 projectile again.

>>127813725

I've worked at that arsenal it is crawling with kikes...and railguns are basically useless.

>>127813737
pay debnts

>>127813865


Only after you've been re-classified as 4F(aggot).

>>127813899
The Dunning-Kruger effect in one post.

>>127813993
Aww do you not know about that program? Would you like for me to educate you, or would you rather be stupid?

Silly question. You are European. You prefer stupidity.

>>127814007

Yes yours definitely is. Would you like a gold star or scratch n' sniff sticker for it?

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>>127813899
My dad works at Nintendo and could beat up your dad.

>>127812729
You're asking me if I have evidence that the Chinese are hiding nukes?
When you're planning a defense you're supposed to prepare for what the enemy might reasonably be able to do, not for what you've got evidence that you need to prepare against. That's how you get blitzkreig'd. This is particularly relevant when discussing superpowers' best hidden secrets on an anime forum. Whatever evidence you or I have are goy tier publications, if we had access to anything relevant we wouldn't be here and we wouldn't post them.

If you want hints I'm sure there's stuff you can google. Maybe those retarded Chinese projects, massive landscaping, post-earthquake measures, etc, were just smart ways of hiding something else. Same for the Pentagon, maybe the retarded prices at which they're buying things is just a way to spend money in secret projects without disclosing. As for the Cuban missiles, I guess that it had gotten to the point where it was best to mobilize against it and there was no point in hiding it anymore, but you can see the difference between setting up silos 500km away from Florida and setting them up in the middle of Siberia or Sichuan.

As for getting the money for it, again, your military is either hiding massive projects or spending money in retarded ways. I'm leaning towards the first. Either way, I highly doubt your congress makes their budget decisions based on JSTOR.

>>127814110

Better unbuckle your belt extender for this strenuous exercise in mediocre tedium.

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>>127806982
The policy of Raytheon, Halliburton, DARPA, and basically every DOD company is to stay 40years or so ahead of the next competitor. We spend amazing amounts of money on our defense budget, more than the rest of the world combined, every year. People that think the U.S. is falling behind militarily are fucking dense.

>>127814183

My father solo crews his bluewater boat about the planet. Your father is an angry alcoholic with a penchant for mopery.

>>127814479

Your MIC is totally owned and controlled by hedge fund managers looking to extract maximum payout from the tax base.

>>127808717
>>127809558
>Don't they have a 50% failure rate during test conditions?
yes and no. Average is 50% for a 3 weapon MIRV, as it is much much easier to hit the first warhead, and then much much harder to hit the follow on ones, do to the blinding radiation soups leftover from the first warhead. So as an easy workaround Russia is putting 10 warheads on a single ICBM which makes certain 1 or 2 get through; however, it fucks them over because they fire less missiles, which makes them more vulnerable to statistical fluctuations. (with 20% failure rate and 500 missiles you will have very close to 100 failed missiles, but with 50 missiles, you may end up with 20 or more simply due to chance.)

>>127808725
yeah no. Lasers suck at the ranges required to safely intercept a nuke. (remember the warhead is re-entering at ~mach 25, and if you detonate it at 1miles you've done your enemy a favor.

>>127809949
This is the way to go, but I'm not sure it will ever be possible against Russian nukes simply because they can get a trajectory which separates well before we have the ability to intercept.

>>127810433
>>127812210
>Because the chinks don't lie about their ICBM inventory
They don't for a few very good reasons. When they first developed nukes they had several different people try to usurp the communist party via taking control of the nuclear arsenal, and coming damn close to succeeding. Hence, The communist party of China views nukes as something with which to maintain minimum deterrence, and nothing more lest they be used to overthrow their own government.

>>127814479
>thinking expenditure automatically transits to worth

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We've likely had this tech working for at least a year or more, it's being publicized solely to put Norko on suicide watch.

>>127814610
And that somehow makes it less dangerous? tell that to the Japanese.

>>127814218
>I have are goy tier publications,
Attacking the source rather than the substance of the information.
Desperation is a stinky cologne.

>When you're planning a defense you're supposed to prepare for what the enemy might reasonably be able to do,
The issue is that you have this stupid assumption that it's easy to build huge numbers of missiles and not be detected. Your entire argument depends on this.

The problem is that you cant. Oh you can build huge numbers of them. But you cant really deploy them without them being seen. Launch complexes that are fixed require months to build and are conspicuous on imaging satellites.
Mobile launchers require supporting infrastructure as well. China, for example, has garrisons for their missile BDEs that are pretty clear.

On top of that, these systems need maintenance regularly. This activity is also hard to miss.

Could the missile estimates be off by a few? Sure.
Off by thousands? No. And if you think thats possible, you have no idea what you are talking about.

>>127814695

He buys all his pants in the fat slob section so it is a personal investment of his similarly obese ego.

>>127814695
>Thinking that Japan didn't get nuked twice by the only country that had them.

None of this really matters when your country is rotting internally from cultural marxism and non-whites are breeding at a faster rate than whites.

It'll be interesting to see spics and niggers attempt to maintain and operate these advanced weapons systems.

>>127809080

No faggot, an ICBM was intercepted.

>>127814797

...the 4th Stooge makes a cameo.

>>127814883

No a target in the class of an ICBM meaning size.

>>127810633
Isn't south america the safest place in case of a nuclear war? Most important targest are way up north. Africa would be safe too but you would die of AIDS there so south america is the place to go.

>>127814991
>meaning size.
Speed and engagement geometry.

>>127806982
>American
>military tech
Yeah, like F-117, F-35, Zomwalt, Star Wars am I right burger?

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>>127813757
ok

>>127815028

My parents have a place outside Blenheim. They are not stupid.

>>127813058
Lets reunite the 1. Or 2. Reich and get nukes ourself

>>127815061

No. Sorry. You lose. Weasel words only impress weasels.

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>>127814528
Jokes on you. I don't even know what that last sentence means

Here's a .gif of a gun shooting 4,500 20x102mm rounds per minute at 3,600 ft. Per second a distance of 2.2 miles that we also use to shoot down missiles. I hope your father gets shredded in half by it.

>>127806982
Nice achievement! Russia can intercept ICBM's for at least 2 decades.

>>127814183
railguns are super cool; however, being super cool is insufficient for a weapon system, it must also be super effective. It remains to be seen how well we can actually target the railgun projectiles at medium to long distances, and depending on the answer railguns will either be worthless novelty weapons, or super deadly super cool weapons.

>>127814218
When you're planning a defense you're supposed to prepare for what the enemy might reasonably be able to do, not for what you've got evidence that you need to prepare against. That's how you get blitzkreig'd.

Are you drunk? I ask because you literally contradicted yourself in a single sentence and then followed it up with a completely unrelated sentence.

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>>127814896
Please tell me again about all of those wars Germoney has won Hanz. I'll wait

>>127806982
>>>127814007
>
>Yes yours definitely is. Would you like a gold star or scratch n' sniff sticker for it?
3. Reich gold star

Maybe North Korea on suicide watch anyone who has subs or cruise missles can bypass this.

>>127815228

Gif porn for the subnormally intelligent but supranormally fat. No thanks.

>>127809080
>Russian missiles are generations ahead of the Amerikans
better start contributing to NATO then, Hans
pay denbts

>>127815225
>weasel words

you mean like a faggot posting on a kraut proxy trying to mince words? you stupid cocksucking coward.

>>127815325
Do you need help with writing a post?

>>127815320
Kicked Napoleons ass, 1. And 2. Reich were the best. 3. Reich was pleb tier.

>>127815320

I'm not German and not poor or stupid so communication would be awkward at best between us unless you can wield a mean chamois on some of my toys.

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>>127814991
>>127815225
missiles are classified primarily by distance which is a function of speed and geometry not size. See the picture for various size of missiles, and even though most are of the same size, only a few are ICBMs

>>127813220
I read this with an Aussie accent, and it reminded me of some blasted guy at the bar, yelling at people while slopping beer everywhere.

>>127814801
Well, your entire argument is based around the fact that you looked up "how many nukes does China have" and you took Google's word for it. Again I don't blame you, it makes it easier to sleep at night.

Besides, I did attack the substance of the information but you just ignored it.
>easy
not easy, just doable
>imaging satellites
do it underground

These are literal non-issues that can be solved with throwing more money at the problem, that's why I focused on the funding instead. If you really think there aren't plenty of other easy ways to get around satellite imaging, and that you can keep an eye on every single Chinese construction site and factory, and know perfectly well what's being built or manufactured there, despite the chinks best attempts to distract you, then, I frankly envy your naivety

>>127815499

Not on a proxy...on holiday...like your staycations only it doesn't suck. Whinge a bit more community college.

>>127809927
Savage

>>127815225
>velocity
>weasel word

>>127815626

More weasel wording from a bovine tongued retardate. Hopefully you can graduate to ball point pen assembly.

>>127815733
>holiday
so when are you going back to Syria?

>>127814991

You are wrong.>>127815061

This kraut is fucking retarded. He thinks we launched an ICBM sized bullseye target into space... dumb faggot. We blew an ICBM sized rocket, which is a fucking ICBM, to pieces. In space. At 10K+ km/h

>>127809340
You military? The only way norks are ever nuking you is if they nuke themselves on liberation day.

>>127811960

Your logic makes no sense.

If they wanted us dead and out of the way, and we don't possess the ability to stop ICBM's (which until today, was true), then they would have already attacked.

Use your brain dipshit. That or put the weed down and possibly try to limit it to only 2-3 times a week with breather periods so you can actually use your brain sometimes.

>>127815953

I was in Syria 10 years ago to pick up some NOS Sturmgewehrs. You are a fuck up frequently ordered to mop rain.

>>127815725
see >>127814684
you want to tell me NK, Iran, Russia, and Pakistan are hiding how many nukes they have, I'll 100% agree with you. The PLA has had such a bad experience with their own generals trying to use their own nuclear arsenal to overthrow the government, that there is literally no way that they would expand their arsenal by an order of magnitude, and disperse it into more than 10times the number of different locations where any low ranking general could get their hands on a few nukes.

>>127815955

You probably think that if you get your dick sucked by a faggot it doesn't mean you are a faggot. Wrong again.

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>>127809579
>doesn't even know the proper acronym
>ICMB
Intercontinental Meme Bomb, get with the times Samsung

>>127815725
>Google's
No. I took these men's word for it.
Zheng Jingdong, Cui Zhaohui, Mark Hibbs, and Jeffery Lewis.
Since you have no idea who they are, I suspect you will be rushing off to google now.

>Besides, I did attack the substance of the information but you just ignored it.
Really? Where is your criticism of MSI? How did you criticise it when you didnt even read it?
Ill wait for your answer...(You and I both know you can't answer either one of these, but I like pointing out how little you know).


>do it underground
You realize thats what I was talking about. Building all those things requires a massive earth moving effort, along with the installation of massive structures and large infrastructure. Thats exactly what you look for.

>>127816136
I saw it, it's the best point I've seen so far. Maybe you're right, but the PLA has seen a substantial purge since then. I wouldn't put my money on China not having decided to get more nukes by now

>>127816306

How exactly am I wrong? Tell me exactly how you think the test went so I can laugh and call you a retard.

>>127816455
He wont answer you. He's just trolling.

>>127814801

The fact that we don't publicly know if China has an elite task force similar to the CIA or KGB (they most certainly do) and we don't have a name for them is evidence enough that China isn't all you believe them to be.

They may not be the most imaginative nation, but they sure can take good ideas and run with them. It's not hard to see the CIA and KGB operations and think, "maybe we should try to hide ourselves while still operating."

Also, where the fuck do you think North Korea got the tunnel bores to create their underground facilities to both train military and develop technology to upgrade their arsenal to the 21st century?

Fucking China.

>>127816455

Secret knowledge tard goes into raging fanboi fantasy mode. That's cute.

>>127806982
>implying we couldn't do this 40 years ago
>implying we don't have a laser array that would burn out any nukes and shut down the molecules
>implying that aliens in deep underground military bases are not being used to advance our technology hundreds of years into the future while the public is unaware

>>127816508

Pansy wagoneers start to circle.

>>127816644

That's what I thought. Just calling out your bullshit non-response. Fuck off, you're out of your element.

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>>127815299
>rail guns
>10 rounds per minute
>5,600 miles an hour

At such a staggering velocity I don't see how they couldn't be effective.

>>127816550
>The fact that we don't publicly know if China has an elite task force similar to the CIA or KGB
Ministry of State Security.

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>>127816652
>aliens in deep underground military bases are being used to advance our technology

>>127806982

Great, now we just need another 2000 of them and to verify that they can intercept MIRV-equipped missiles.

I'm sure that China and Russia are sleeping fine right now.

>>127816068
The reasoning goes, that we've tested just one. This is their last chance to 'get us' before we can just bully them off the face of the earth with conventional weapons with impunity. I wonder if this is why Trump wanted the military buildup. Curse presidents for always wanting military buildups.

>>127816407
So you unironically take a publicly available document's statements on top secret information at face value and you unironically think you can Google Earth every single Chinese mine/construction site/dirt truck and know it's purpose, despite them being known for undertaking massive landscaping projects involving exactly that, thousands of kilometers of underground tunneling, having built dozens of ghost cities, etc. Okay, keep us safe, anon. The NSA could really use your google+google earth skills :^)

If amerishts are so good why they always get BTFO in wargames? Really makes u think

>>127816854

I humbly bow to your mastery of the wank booth bucket mopping.....but no ICBM was intercepted Jody.

>>127817136

It still makes no sense. You are arguing that if we don't possess the capability of defending against an ICBM that Russia would attack because they want us out of the way. It wasn't publicly known until today.

By your logic, they would have attacked already.

The reasoning does not hold up.

>>127810880
In a lot of places a decimal is interchangeable with a comma when it comes to large numbers. Don't ask me why, it's weird.

>>127810609
Youre also the least likely to ever leave uruaguay

>>127817339

The price tag holds up a stock price which holds up dividends.

Lmao all these niggers and russian shills, the US has just had a major breakthrough, after this succesful test of the missle and its computer system. All that really needs to be upgraded to hit other types of targets is probably just the computer system, which is easy, all the hard parts, like getting it the right weight and shape to fly fast enough has been accomplished. A good example of this, is how cruise missiles can be simply reprogrammed and within a few minutes they are able to target satellites orbiting the earth instead of a target on land, like their original intent.

>>127806982
love the fake news bruh but if some one launched one we would launch them back

>>127817165
>So you unironically take a publicly available document's statements on top secret information at face value
Determining fissile material production isnt very hard anon.
I know you are stupid and not white, but there is this thing called 'SCIENCE' and part of that is called 'PHYSICS'. Knowing these things enable you to make pretty accurate predictions on fissile material production.

I notice you didn't post anything to indicate why you thought they were wrong. Did you check their math? Have you found some flaw in the laws of physics? Do you have reason to believe the laws of physics operate differently in China than the rest of the world?

Also, I notice you forgot to answer one of my questions.
You stated that you already criticised the substance of the article in International Security.
I was asking how you managed to do that since you didnt read it, and if you did, how do you reconcile your insistence that simply digging a hole hides everything if you put enough money at it, despite the information that is contained in that exact article that addresses that exact point.

>>127816915
>rail guns
>10 rounds per minute
>5,600 miles an hour
All true, but also:
>Trying to hit a 5000 ft^2 object in 100mi^2.
Oh, and unlike every video game you've ever played real weapons run out of ammo, so unless its got a sweet targeting system it is a very expensive, super cool, useless weapon.

>>127817339
You're right. What they should have done is say, "if you develop anti-ICBMs we'll blow this whole planet up so help me God!" But if we don't believe them and we do develop them, they're screwed. This first came up when Reagan came up with Star Wars - I don't know what happened to that, probably just, research was started and it's taken this long to succeed.

Of course. The global conspiracy is afraid of chinks since they can't fully understand them, thus less efficient infiltration. Losing is not an option.

>>127817456
> cruise missiles reprogrammable between land and space
Surely not - space requires a rocket engine which must be more expensive than the mere jet required to run within the atmosphere.

>>127814684
Know any good books to read up on this stuff? History is good, but modern capability is better.

>>127806982
yeah it works! if you tell it where the launch is coming from, where it's going, what time it's being launched, doesn't tumble and doesn't have any decoys at all. and even then it's a 80% success rate.

greatest waste of money ever..

>>127812745
Russia can just manufacture a shitload of nukes, that's always been their strategy anyway.
>oh you can intercept 1 nuke? i'm impressed
>how about 20,000?
Even if your interception rate is 99% (which is very generous) that's 20 cities that just got nuked.

>>127806982

ITT: assmad second-worlders upset that American hegemony is just getting stronger.

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>>127817662

As far as Star Wars is concerned we definitely have spy satellites in orbit currently that have the ability to attack foreign satellites if signaled to do so. As far as missile systems in space, I am not aware of, but it doesn't seem like something that is out of reach for the US government considering they possess the capability of anti-gravity.

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>/pol/ promised me a habbening
>now is never going to happen

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>>127817651
Rail guns aren't meant for missile defense.

Frankly I wouldn't care if they didn't have any targeting system at all. I just want to see what a watermelon sized chunk of steel does to a building at mach 6.

>>127817985

Strong like the bull you prep? Impressive!

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>>127817609
>hey read this paper i googled while larping as a security consultant on an anime forum and refute it, or else i win the argument!
Go read the Hebrew version of the Bible, there you'll find my answer.
Also, allow me to quote my well liked Greek fellow
>>127809927

>>127817956
They only have so many silos. And would have to drop out of the NewSTART treaty.

>>127817651
Are you shitting me? They've already installed one on our Zumwalt class boat and it's apparently working a treat. Ballistics was a solved problem in the 19th century and with modern weather sensing technology the cannon can adjust for windage without issue.

There is only the projectile to fire, as well, the ammunition is small and it can fire as many times as it likes off the main turbine or backup engine's electrical power, which feeds something, I assume supercaps.

It's superior to any cannon in many respects. We're testing it as of a couple months ago, it could be retrofitted to existing vessels as well.

>>127818067

...and you are dumb enough to pay for it for years.

>>127818028
> anti-gravity
When you put it like that, you're no doubt right.

>>127806982
i find it amazing russia claims oooo you can not and never will shoot down a ICBM

ya well fu russia

>>127818162

Stay on the hard lubber. Your inlander shows in this abortion of a post.

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>>127818181
>30 post by this I.D.

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>>127818067
>loiters for a couple years
>stuff explodes somewhere in the world and it's blamed on a gas explosion
>Mattis laughing in the distance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Dp3VDOjwQ

>>127817671
are you qualified to talk about wmd and shietz young man?
Lithuania had a respected basketball team in the 90s if i recall correct

>>127818308

Even wrong here. Predictable.

>>127818087

> n-no y-you're a c-cuck b-burger

the days of germany's imperial aspirations and global relevance are long past, hans

you're just pathetic

>>127810093
you say this now but this is literally what we plan on doing

>>127818306
I live in a port town and have been sailing since I was a child.

You also failed to address any of my points. You can go read big long articles about this stuff if you like.

You're cute though, I like your style. I'm sure you put a lot of effort into it.

>>127818126
>hey read this paper i googled while larping as a security consultant on an anime forum and refute it,
Well, now I'm confused.
You said that you did refute the substance of it, and now you are saying that you can't refute any of it.

I know I was mean to expect someone like you to actually have something to back up their wild assumptions. I know it wasn't fair of me to bring science into this as you have no idea what it is.
For both of those things, I am sorry.

Perhaps next time, you will think before posting something on a topic when you have no idea what you are talking about. But probably not. I suppose that assumes you have some form of human intelligence, rather than being a sub-human animal.

now they should intercept that white kid shooting up a school
burgers should fear the beetus more than icbms

>>127813040
>Implying China will allow it's colony to be annexed

>>127809237
Fact is America is the first country to successfully intercept a ICMB test or not it is still a note worthy is the accomplishment.

Shut up you bitter kraut! Your country is a blight to the west, and is destroying you're up to your idiotic leadership and completely naïve and indoctrinated population. Even the DNC was laughing at you guys in their private emails stating you will never recover.

.> In b4 leaf
Yes my country is shit, and yes our leadership is horrific right now. But fact is our vetting system of immigrants is 10 times what yours is since your chancellor basically open the floodgates. And most importantly we can do whatever damage to our self and America is capable of dealing with it we aren't taking anybody down with us, you Germans certainly can't say the same!

>>127818346
>>loiters for a couple years
>>worthless stuff explodes somewhere in the world and it's blamed on a gas explosion
>>Merchant hedge funder hand rubbing vigorously in the distance

>>127818489
if burgers really developed a way to shoot down ICBMs then they should be able to shoot down bullets

>>127808730
Assuming that happens all America will be successful in is creating a new nuclear arms race

>>127818460

You are an illiterati.

>>127818472

Target.

>>127818472
You forget. This is /pol/ where long in depth articles on subjects in academic journals take a back seat to some moron in Uruguay (or Greece) idea of what is common sense.

>>127818597
Is this a rare form of salt imported from Germany?

We're literally anime-tier in technological development and it makes you mad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h5qpXO3isM

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>>127818474
>unironically suggesting to google top secret information and expecting to be taken seriously

>>127818560

Post comments itself.

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>>127818704

>>127818772

>Not understanding how physics works.
Stay undeveloped country status, Uruguay.

>>127818755

The dummy from my suite at boarding school went to MIT....I wonder if you are as ugly as he was.

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>>127818904
>google earthing construction sites = PHYSICS
No wonder community college grads can't get jobs

>>127818638
Hypersonic nuclear missiles are the future. A risky venture considering how unstable they are.

>>127818426

Should go back to diddling your asshole. You are wrong, and just mad that while your women are being deep dicked by Achmed the Americans are knocking ICBMs out of spce with EKVs. Pussy.

US has had the ability to intercept ICBMs for two decades. They're just now admitting it to public

>Oi!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0mTeggWr2g

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Fake News

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>>127819078

>>127817857
Which part? For orbital mechanics and ICBM trajectories, I've been getting all my books from http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=32089.0 and other threads on the same forum.

As for lasers, I build high energy lasers for my Postdoctoral work,and I can refer you a bunch of papers about various absorption cross sections, angular dispersion, and other nonsense in our atmosphere that fuck up our nice idea of laser weapons. Ooooh, one thing I forgot to mention about how lasers would suck at destroying reentering ICBMs, is that an object going mach25 and hitting our atmosphere forms a sheathe of plasma around it. This makes it shine on literally every radar screen; however, it also absorbs all wavelengths of radiation. Thus firing a laser at the re-entering warhead will expand and heat the plasma, but only a very small percent (~0.01%) of the lasers energy will be transferred to the warhead.

>>127818067
So you're saying the only valid use for railguns is indiscriminate shore bombardment? Also, as has been shown for the past 5 decades, precision targeted weapons are almost as effective as nuclear weapons, which means unless the railgun delivers precision bombardment, meaning it needs a sweet targeting system (200 miles at mach 10, you'll need some wicked in course flight corrections), it will not be hugely useful.

>>127806982

And the UK they still want to take the USA back

>>127819226

The intro part I can imagine all the spergs marching, following by a brief three person display (Marc Lepine, Boss Rodge and the nigger guy) with the /r9k/ banner, then Kermit the frog fires the missiles. I have no idea who the target is though (fuck I could use some video editing skills!).

>>127819133
I never mentioned Google Earth.
You did.

I was talking about the methods of analysis and the known capabilities of US surveillance systems of MSI.

You claimed to have refuted the substance of an article you didn't even read.


I have another question for you. One I know you can't actually answer.
Could you please link any post you have made that contains any evidence at all that supports your side. Anything?

>>127819226
wtf I love best korea now

>>127818824

Popular mech/sci tier graphics. I love their work on Usama Bin Laden's non-existent bat cave. You should export this to a pop-up book or a shadow play. Probably be as successful as Shia's last film.

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Pretty impressive, feels good to be an American

>>127819355
More in the vein of nuclear strategy and capability. Good link, though!

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>>127819468
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4_LZ8fL-Mc

>>127819133
Also, since you claim all I did was google the article, would you be so kind as to do the same? I am sure you have checked and aren't just pulling things from your ass again.

Also, I was curious what sources you =used to form your opinions? I'm sure you have a lengthy list of peer reviewed sources that you used prior to forming your opinion and wouldn't just be spouting idiocy you though up, right?

>>127819209

Target.

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>>127815930
What the fuck is this?

>>127819220

Before or after flying cars?

>>127819693
You're really mad tonight, herpes flaring up again?

>>127819569
On Thermonuclear War By Herman Kahn
On Limited Nuclear War in the 21st Century by Jeffrey Larsen and Kerry Kartchner
The Evolution of Nuclear Strategy, Third Edition by Lawrence Freedman
Russian Strategic Nuclear Forces by Pavel Podvig
Nuclear Statecraft: History and Strategy in America's Atomic Age by Francis J. Gavin
Eating Grass: The Making of the Pakistani Bomb by Feroz Khan
Prevention, Pre-emption and the Nuclear Option: From Bush to Obama by Aiden Warren
Nuclear Deterrence in the 21st Century: Lessons from the Cold War for a New Era of Strategic Piracy by Thérèse Delpech
Analyzing Strategic Nuclear Policy by Charles L. Glaser
Making of the Atomic Bomb by Richard Rhodes
Dark Sun: The Making of the Hydrogen Bomb by Richard Rhodes
Nuclear Strategy in the Modern Era: Regional Powers and International Conflict by Vipin Narang
Building the H Bomb: A Personal History By Kenneth W Ford
Paper Tigers: China's Nuclear Posture by Jeffery Lewis.

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>>127819387
>actually thinks telling people to read and refute entire papers, instead of typing out arguments directly counts as arguing on /pol/

>>127819809
Thx cutie

>>127817240

Americans aren't good at war, but our hyper capitalist system has allowed us to create and mass produce the best military equipment ever since WW2.

We're like historical Knights. Shitty soldiers, but able to afford the best equipment as opposed to really fantastic soldiers with great strategy who have inferior equipment.

You still have to protect the Seoul.

>>127818162
ahhh, please show me the weather sensing technology we have to predict the different densities and wind differences of air which spans 200 miles at least part of which is enemy territory.

>Ballistics was a solved problem in the 19th century
ahahahaha, you think that a hypervelocity projectile encounters the same challenges and can be accurately described as a slightly faster cannonball??? Good to know that drag forces on a sub sonic shot is the same as that of a mach 10 projectile

>it's apparently working a treat
yeah, again its supercool, but a weapon that cannot effectively target the enemy is a useless weapon. This is the same goddamn problem the Chinese DF-21D has. Without targeting a weapon system, even a nuclear one, is crap.

>>127819834
You said you already addressed it.

Why did you say that if you hadn't read it?

>>127819780

Stay poor dreamer. It's all you've got.

>>127819915
laser dust particle motion sensing's been around and commonly fitted to weather planes since what, the 1980s or 1990s

don't you think the navy, which maintains its own weather service, has this technology?

>>127818775
Yes because you are disturbingly idiotic and easily to anticipate and predict, what kind of garbage you will spew.

Comment also explains that is shit as my country is, Germany is even worse it's taking all of Europe down with it. This is inexcusable!

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>>127819914
I have a feeling if Kim got serious on south korea these anglo/american pussies would be falling back to australia on day 1 of liberation.

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>>127806982
Impressive technical achievement, absolutely retarded geopolitics/stability-wise.
This system, combined with all the ABM complexes encircling Russia are enough to make anyone nervous about their national security.
Stop poking the fucking bear, USA.

>>127819998
Well, that an a railgun and a missile interceptor.

>he think that same size rocket means same class of rockets.
are all americans that stupid? come on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhnUgAaea4M

GAME OVER

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>>127819915
>different densities and wind differences of air
Do you have a preference on altitude?

>>127820022

RIFF. Reading is fundamental faggot.

>>127820046
>poking the bear
they already started showing evasive warheads which can move in the terminal phase a few years ago

we spacewar nao

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>>127819945
I addressed the points you typed out and posted here, obviously.
But it's cute to realize that in your mind, you had been playing out the fantasy that I was actually googling the shit you quoted

>>127819220
>Just now admitting it
>Who was Ronald Reagan?
>What is 'Star Wars'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hGLBA65tZg

>>127820065
NO YOU FOOL WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?

>>127806982
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGQaH3-LK54
this thread deserves this song while reading it

>>127820065

We wuz...

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>>127806982

>Can't just allow North Korea to nuke San Francisco and Los Angeles

Why not just let them?

>>127819867
>Americans aren't good at war
Shut the fuck up, scumbag. The American spirit is famous, we have a rage no other nation has. Our nation was born in spitting in the face of a numerically and financially superior enemy then kicking their ass.

>>127820191

Puppets celebrating a puppet show. Glorious.

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>there are still non-American cucks on this planet that think they could take the US in a fight

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>>127812745

>Pretty much. Our conventional military is decades ahead of everyone else technology wise. Within 5-10 years we will have rail guns and lasers on our stuff not to mention our military will always be the biggest and most spread out over the globe.

Yet we couldn't win a war in Afghanistan or Iraq $1 trillion dollars later :^)

>>127820227
Our next real war will leave our enemies literally shaking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVlhMGQgDkY

>>127820065

>>>127819693 (You)
>Target.

Ha ha ha. Rube.

every country will want a raytheon missle shield. Donald makin weapon deals.

>that german poster

did you forgot your morning cofee ? is that why you so grumpy ?

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>>127819809
thx
when I grow up I want to be white like you
Not like smelly uruguayan poster

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>>127820295
It is fucking hilarious, Hans. You should have fun once in a while.

>>127820126
>I addressed the points you typed out and posted here, obviously.
I asked you specifically about the article. You attacked the source of the paper, and when I called you out on that and suggested you address the substance of it, you claimed you already had.

Why would you lie about something I can just link to in the thread?
You attacking the source, rather than the substance: >>127812210
Doing it again: >>127814218
Me calling you out on it: >>127814801
You claiming that you did address the substance: >>127815725

>>127819998
Listen faggot just because mommy and daddy have money doesn't mean you're worth anything, you're just a piece of shit Leach that has the audacity to be arrogant about it; which is more pathetic than being poor.

>>127820431
if NATO nations want one they're going to have to pay what they didn't pay for many years into NATO plus the cost of the system itself, haha

>>127818181
Tech has to start somewhere hanz.

>>127820126
Another question, have you read any of these works here: >>127819809

If so what did you think?

>>127820497

>Leach

Good stuff. More....

>>127820497
Despite his leftist leanings he can't get over the rampant classism that comes from being born with a silver spoon in his mouth.

We have a name for people like the german anon here, champagne liberal.

>>127820115
Yes reading is very crucial, your point?

Our next real war our enemy will suddenly and inexplicably have major earthquakes that level all of their cities and military complexes

>>127820548

Tech driving artificial need....just what the Jew ordered. You played yourself.

This German anon's made me think, we have to be wary of German companies now, like Siemens.

>>127820227

Who gives a fuck what we used to be? Is 1940s Germany the same as modern Germany?

You don't even realize the irony of your own post. We are now that "numerically and financially superior" country we once fought against. We have no reason to fight. We have all the wealth, we have all the opportunities. No one can fuck with us and no one even tries to. Both of our neighbors to the north and south are weak and friendly. The only issues we have are internal and cultural.

Even if there were a war, do you really think our soldiers have the ire to valiantly fight and die for gooks?

>>127820638

>We have a name for people like the german anon here, champagne liberal.

"here" = developmental centre.

>>127820589
It's voice dictation you fucking retard you're not very intuitive are you?

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>>127818507
Oh god Fallout New Vegas is going to happen huh? MFW when right next to Nevada Caesar here I come.

>>127820686
Why are you so sore? Can't you leave us in peace to develop our devastating sci-fi tier weapons in peace while you lead the world in nigger cock admission into anuses in pools?

We each have our strong suits, let's celebrate diversity.

>>127806982
I'm honestly a little shocked we couldn't already do this? Like I thought missile interception was something we mastered in the 80s or 90s.

>>127806982
All this means is that americans can never be liberated from Jewish tyranny. Next they'll grant you eternal life so you can slave away forever.

>>127820900
Shorter range IRBMs and the like. ICBMs are a much more difficult target.

>>127820904
Don't worry there was a bug which would have prevented Trident from ever being used against the USA in case the Muslims took over. Really it's not a big loss for you.

>>127820850

sci-fi...only reality in your manic missives.

>>127820581
>>127820488
>tries to pass entire books as a /pol/ argument

I worry I'm taking up too much of your time, I don't want to distract you from google earthing chinese dirt trucks! I'm glad you're keeping us safe, anon

>>127820994
You know some Muzzies just blew up your Embassy in Afghanistan. Shouldn't you be letting more of them in now?

>>127820377
>next real war will leave our enemies literally shaking
Checked. Ok, but who is going to plaster the battlefields and cities with QR codes so Terminator-Lite can find it's objectives? They have a long way to go with that tech, probably good to replace warehouse etc workers though

>>127820011
Please show me the laser dust particle motion sensor that has a range even approaching 200nmi. The problem is that in order to make the fine measurements necessary for accurate fire, we need to have noncombatant aerial craft within ~20miles of the target. If we can get non combat aircraft that close to the enemy, why not send an F-18 with a couple of missiles, or hell an F-22 to super cruise and throw a JDAM 40+miles?

>>127820090
That data set has insufficient resolution to accurately guide a projectile traveling 200nmi. The problem is that what is needed is real time (plus future) knowledge of the the specific air density, and wind speeds across the entire trajectory in extremely minute detail, we are talking 10meter resolution at worst. That is if we are trying to hit a destroyer sized object. Anything less and we have the same problem of lack of precision.

The obvious solution is to simply make a damn projectile that can do limited course corrections. However, that defeats the purpose of the railgun in the first place.

>>127820783
>We have no reason to fight.

Yes we do. 1. Preserve our nation. An example of this is the bloodrage that was summoned up after 9/11. And now 2. Preserve the white race and American culture. An example of this is President Trump and the rise of the white nationalist.

Compare that to europoors cucking themselves to death.

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>>127821053
forgot pic

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>>127820994
>ywn be butt hurt enough to post 50 times in 1 thread
Feels good, man.

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>>127820994
Except for the real life sci-fi tier battle droids and railguns and space vehicles we have now.

You probably don't even know about SB-3 Ghouls or the Solar Warden...

>>127821086
>Please show me the laser dust particle motion sensor that has a range even approaching 200nmi.
>what are UAVs
>what is naval aviation

>>127821086
oh and >20nm
no this stuff is done from altitude

>>127821057

Another tied for last place illiterate loser.

>>127821053
So you haven't read any of those.

Have you read ANYTHING at all related to the subject at hand?
I mean anything. Even a Jalopnik article.


>>127821086
>That data set has insufficient resolution to accurately guide a projectile traveling 200nmi.

Thats just open source stuff.


>The obvious solution is to simply make a damn projectile that can do limited course corrections. However, that defeats the purpose of the railgun in the first place.

The D-2 Projectile can.

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>>127818824

And that would require entirely new battleships created specifically for these guns. There's a huge logistics problem with this entire weapon and these infographics have ALWAYS fed out bullshit. I remember these magazines glorifying the XM8 which was the hypothetical successor to the M-16 back in 2004. Same with Modern Marvels on History Channel. Eventually it was scrapped because it was pointless to replace the M-16. Nothing has changed, it's basically just the industrial military complex doing PR like they've been doing for past few decades now.

pic related: awful sequel to GR back in 2004 used the XM8 in its boxart.

>>127821146

>Mah space vehicles

Where the fuck are the missile armed shuttles/satellites? Also why are they obsolete since ICBM's already go low orbit?

>>127821146

Are your moob nipples hard?

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>>127821225
I have read most, but have you? Summarize each one of them to prove it.

>>127821144
>not knowing posting a lot is ok as long as you have a favorable yous per post ratio

>>127821262
>And that would require entirely new battleships created specifically for these guns.
That's not true, they're an easy retrofit. You simply put them onto the boat like we did with other weapons systems.

These boats are designed to be upgraded.

The XM8 was shit but that doesn't mean everything is shit. The railgun works and is installed on a ship right now, they're testing it in a shake down cruise.

>>127821144

Keep repeating and one day in may be true...even in your bizarro jewniverse. Definitely your mum's son.

>>127821284
One just landed not too long ago.

Those doors are what hide the weapons systems, they aren't like cannons on an anime ship. Yet.

>>127821326
What's Germany doing in space again? Kinda puttering around with 'environmental' satellites?

>>127820638
Yes I get all that. But one thing is very clear from the fact of his pathetic shitposts, and the fact that despite bragging about being so rich he is sitting on the Internet… Mommy and daddy aren't as rich as he thinks they are.

They likely own more debt than they do assets like many "wealthy people". But daddy wouldn't burden his little mind with such matters.

Very sad little individual. Bases his inflated delusional confidence on completely misguided impressions.

90% certainty he is of average physical aesthetics at best.

>>127821368
>I have read most, but have you? Summarize each one of them to prove it.

Oh no. Im asking the questions here. And I can prove you are lying with a very simple one.


I bet you all the tea in China you refuse to answer this. You ready?

Explain how option purity factored into Larsen, Freedman, and Glaser and tell me how it fits into modern strategic thinking.

If you have any idea what you are talking about or even read half these books, you can answer that in two sentences.


I await your cowardly dodge.

>>127821528

Try hards scraping for a penny but crowing about a buck they'll never satisfy.

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>>127821224
Welp, time to activate Gladio. Been nice knowing you, lefty anon.