Whoa !

>>127804462
Too bad they didn't have border control

>>127804653
supreme kek

>>127804462
he never saw the map because the indians didn't have enforced borders
they didn't even have basic mapmaking skills

Boarders are a white mans concept.

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Have you ever heard the wolf cry to the blue corn moon?
>*plants maize*

Or asked the grinning bobcat why he grinned?
>*smokes peace pipe*

Can you sing with all the voices of the mountain?
>*performs rain dance*

Can you paint with all the colors of the wind?
>*scalps a white man*

CAN YOU PAINT WITH ALL THE COLORS OF THE WIIIIIIIIIIND???!!!!
>*gets BTFO'd and signs treaty ceding 80% of their land*

>mfw

>>127804462
>empire
>confederacy
>federation
>sovereignty
>supremacy
These words imply some sort of central power structure. A bunch of wandering nomads is in no way an "empire".

>>127804462
The cree territory included lots of land to the west of lake Winnipeg. What the fuck kind of made up bullshit map is this? And why are so many groups just amalgamated like that?

Fuck, a lot of those didn't exist at the same time. What year is this even supposed to be?

>>127804462
Fascinating. I had no idea that the hundreds of distinct tribes in each of those regions formed states.

>>127804462
Fuck Huron Supremacy

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>>127804462

>>127804462
Salish was in western Washington, not eastern Washignton. This map is retarded.

Native American cultures were interesting, but inferior.

>>127804653

fpbp

>>127804462
>no lakota
fake map

This is the most retarded thing I have ever seen.

This makes me want to hunt down niggers and niggerducation even more.

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>>127804462
>Confederacy
>Supremacy
>Empire
Just who the fuck do these virtue signalling libfags think they're fooling? They're only lying to themselves.

>>127804462
lol im from florida and ive seen pretty rainbow colored maps that looked pretty much just like that in all of my history text books from elementary to high school, both for the entire US and for florida.

>>127804462

>My parents country of origins

WE WUZ MAYANS AN SHIEET WE BUILT DA PEERAMEDS WE WUZ KANGS

>>127805161

http://salishschoolofspokane.org/

>>127804462
I thought they had no concept of land ownership, how come they have so many borders?

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>>127804653

>>127804947
>taking this seriously

>>127804462
This is a fanfic map, those areas were inhabited by multitudes of smaller individual tribes for the most part.
>>127805121
Jewess that only cares about making profit off of the land, real """based."""

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>>127804653

>>127805460
Lot's were put on reservations in eastern Washington since western Washington was way better.

>>127805474

>Be a sioux and go to apache land to hunt wild buffalo
>They find me, scalp me and offer my remains to for good weather

Nah, they knew about borders and keeping land, they just never stayed in one area for long since they lived off the land, which meant following migrations, and avoiding certain places on certain seasons. When they thought land owner ship, they thought as in sharing the land to hunt, fish, drink water, gather fruits and such. Not in the "I own this land and will raise life stock and vegetables on it" way.

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>>127804462
So this fuck nugget never took USAP history?
Or any collage level class on the history of the US? Figures.

>>127804462
Isn't that an alternate history map?

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>>127804884
>>127805161
>>127805460
>>127805794

>>127804462
>olmecs and aztecs in exstence at the same time

seems legit

>>127804653
WEEEEW LAD

>>127804462
We killed all the Indians. What's left owns Casinos and buy State Legislatures. Alabama must be the worse. They will sell people's soul to suck Creek Cock and the bastards are white as you and me.

I have a special dislike of the Creeks. We need another Horseshoe Bend. We need another Jackson and I k ow Trump is that man!

And the bastard is from New York! I never dreamed a Yankee would save this country from Intergration!

>>127804462

Probably never seen it because it is made up bullshit. They didn't have established borders.

Wow I didn't know about all of these empires and shit right beneath our feet. I wonder why we don't see more of their architecture, read more of their great novels, hear more of their great operas, and use more of their advanced technology. Can anyone explain this to me?

>>127806153

Nope, this nigga was in highschool till he was 25. They finally kicked him out

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>>127804462
>tfw Taco
>tfw we had several "empires" fighting each other at all times
>tfw racist liberals only include aztecs and olmecs in Tacoland

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>>127804462
I can tell you the Hopi are in the wrong place. They have always been in the northern Arizona and New Mexico area, not in that mid Texas/ mid New Mexico like the map shows.

>>127804462
this is so innacurate it hurts me physically

>>127804462

Looking at California alone that map is completely fucking wrong. There were hella more tribes, like a hundred, living in that chumash + pomo area alone

>>127804462

What throws me off is Mexico, don't they have like a bunch of indigenous living there? I don't think it was just Aztec

Also there's like a hundred different tribes in USA, well there were but that map only shows like 20

>>127804462
It actually is a pretty neat map

>>127804462
>Aztec """Empire"""
>Apache """Empire"""

Kinda remind me of the Swedish Empire, lol

>>127804653
HAHAHAHA aren't you just so clever!

>>127804462
A lot of the southwest part is especially bullshit. Hopi were never that big, Anasazi were never a real verified tribe, it's a tribe we attribute to ruins where we don't know who made them. Navajo were bigger and basically where they are now. Apache were smaller and next to the comache and they were always fighting and taking land from each other, they all did that actually.

>over 100k people shared a fanfic map as if it were real

>>127804462
Too bad the Creeks didn't immigrate until after the fall of the Aztecs and the Sioux, Comanche and Kiowa where never to be without horses.

>>127808013
>Aztec """Empire"""
>Historically illiterate

>>127804462
Map is such bullshit lol

I would like to see an animated gif of a thousand year history of these territories

When the Europeans came in at the end it would only go to show that the natives were just as ruthless and land hungry as the whites.

Really don't understand the argument.

Fought wars, traded for land, signed treaties.

Hell, maybe the EU should give Europe back to the Roman Empire.

>>127804462
yeah we fucked them up pretty good
it's quite sad

>>127808689
It would be almost a thousand years long since there were no borders and these people killed each other for territory literally every single day for ages.

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>>127804462
That chart is wrong in regard to the Southeast. Where are the Florida Seminole? The Creek were heavily located in Alabama & Georgia. When Cherokee Chief William McIntosh gave land to the US for Firewater, shiny things & stuff, the Creeks killed him.

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>Comanche? "Lords of the Plains"...?
>Lords of nothing now. Do you know what Comanche means? "Enemies forever."
>Know what that makes me?
>An enemy.
>No. It makes me a Comanche

>>127804462
At least Mexico is wrong as fuck. Don't know Pocahontas history, though.

>>127808798
It would also be funny to see the territory around the Dakota pipeline. The hereditary claim of siouxs would become laughable

>>127804462

>I've never seen this map in my entire 25 years of formal education.

Might have something to do with it being total bullshit.

>>127805121
What a savage beast.

I don't even mean that in a good way.

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>>127804462
>implying they had anywhere NEAR that much land

>>127807525
Except it's completely wrong.

>>127809246
>Land in Florida 1484
>Creek armies greet me with bronze canons

>>127804462
This is bull shit. The 'nation, federation, etc' give it away. They didn't have words for that, Indians were roaming tribes. And yes, my social studies book did show a map of what tribes were where. So total bullshit on this one

>>127809217
>Being in education for 25 years

>>127809577
>land in Florida 1500
>Good ol' Chris Columbo and 3k soldiers conquer the entire continent

>>127804462
>slavey
kek

>>127809246
While this is just a videogame, it's still true that most tribes had basically no force projection. It's just comes along with being nomadic. It's why the Mongols fell as fast as they came.

>>127810095
the main game mechanic for the native american tribes in EU4 is that they change their "hunting grounds" and territory almost constantly until the europeans come and spread technology

>>127804937
well...ours indeed was an empire

>>127809645
Well yeah, it's an alternate history map that says 2015 AD on it.

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>>127810268

>>127804462
Y'know since most Mexicans at this point have Amerindian blood in them, that means they have a land claim on all of the US.

VIVA LA RAZA

Option A: the natives were noble savages with no concept of ownership of the land and were ruthlessly exploited by western imperialists.

Option B: the natives were sovereign states who laid claim to vast territories, which they gradually ceded to western powers after losing many wars, some of which they started.

If you pick option A then natives never had any claim to the land whatsoever. If you pick option B then natives still don't have a claim to the land because they lost any rights to it when they signed treaties after losing wars. Nobody talks about how half of Europe should be given back to Rome.

>>127805309
The Iroquois were fairly based as far as savages go. The ended up tearing their confederation apart in the Revolution and got warcrimed by Washington after the war ended.

>>127809564

That maps is really off by the way and ignores hundreds of smaller tribes and nations. they didnt have much of a concept of land ownership and so didnt have boundaries and such, other than small areas near where they were actually living or sacred land. This is why they didnt just start killing white people who wandered across their land until it became obvious what they were doing.

>>127804462
>Apache Empire enclosing the Sierra Nevada mountains

So some retard drew random lines on a map, got it.

>we wuz mountaineers and shit

>>127804462
I've seen plenty of maps like this.

Never part of the curriculums though, but they were in the books.

Wasn't "Anasazi" just a word in one tribe that mean something like "the old ones".

Isn't this like having a map of Europe that has a region marked "prehistoric", "cavemen", and/or "ancestors"?

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WE WUZ ASSASSINS N SHIET

>tfw the Newfies literally genocided those Beothuk savages

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>>127804653

>>127810604
It depends on tribes. Northwest tribes had definite concepts of ownership. Great Plains tribes just had more general "these lands are used by our people" sort of deal and maybe they take exception to it being used by other tribes if they have a feud with them, but they don't really claim to own the plains because they couldn't conceive of a way to contain and control it as a possession.

But returning to the Northwest, you had more permanent settlements there with hunting and gathering spots being inherited through family lines, and there was hierarchy within the tribe based on how much land you owned and the quality of the land. They even had a kind of pseudo-feudalism where the wealthiest landowners would "rent" out their plots to poorer people who would give up part of their harvest to them, because in practice these people who owned hundreds of acres and the best fishing spots couldn't use them all.

>>127804462
It's from some bullshit alt-history book. It even says 2015 ad.

>>127804462
Yeah this was drawn by an Indian, with his bird spirit wooden computer.

>>127804462
>Never in my 25 years of Education.

This fucking retard

All he had to do was fucking google it if he was interested. Or play Europa Univeralis or fucking CIV 4 Colonization holy fuck why are leftists so fucking lazy?
Besides I'm sure it's somewhere in the History textbooks all he had to do was browse.

>>127804462
The ute and the aztecs were the same. The ute spoke aztec dialect. Gold hunters also believe Montezuma gold was taken back to ute area. Which is some where located in southern utah and arizona.

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>>127804653

Lol. Fuckers didn't even have a wheel when white man brought them civilization. Natives are like wild animals who shit on the land to mark their territory, no wonder they got st am rolled. Not one thing was invented by those fuckers

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None of that is legitimate territory. The only two formal unions in that picture are the Iroquois Confederacy and the Aztec Empire, but neither of which controlled that much territory. Likewise civilizations like the Olmec didn't not exist at the same time as the Aztecs. The only other formal government in the New World was the Inca Empire.

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>>127804653
Fpbp niggers

The redman was in nonstop combat warfare & genocide
against all other tribes over turf & the whole lot.
Just like niggers in Afrika.

European man BTFO the water
HOW BOU DAT
CASH ME OUSSIDE NIGGER

>>127810594
They were genocidal torturing cannibals. The only reason anyone remembers therm is they were written about in fiction.

>>127807416
>>127804462

I guess Navajo and Yokuts don't exist as huge populations in the southwest and central California respectively, eh? But the Anasazi, a tribe which is known by the name it was given by another tribe, "ancient enemy" and died out before the white man came, is alive and well.

>muh 25 years of education

American schools learn Napoleon's name and then we move on. You're lucky if they even mention the Battle of Waterloo. Who the fuck is this cunt pretending that American history classes in public school are meant to be conclusive in any fashion? It has nothing to do with colonization/racism, it has to do with streamlining what is deemed "important" historically and that means generally sticking to what has modern relevance and Indian tribes do not

>>127804462
Fake. Wheres the choctaw nation? Supposed to be mississippi area. Cherokees where in illinois area

>>127804462
>Olmec
>AD
Fake map.

>The population of the Olmecs flourished during Mesoamerica's formative period, dating roughly from as early as 1500 BCE to about 400 BCE.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olmec

>>127804947
Yeah leftist faggots call the waters off the west coast of Canada the Salish sea. This map is bullshit just like "native culture".

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>>127811968

No Lenape? Who else murdered the Hessians in their sleep during the revolution?

>maps fucked

>>127804653
>Too bad they didn't have border control

Apache and Commanche has so much control over the border, after the Mexican-American War, Mexico asked the US Government to put a stop to it.

>>127804462
this is a bullshit map based off of best guesses and states that could hardly be called states

>>127812080
You're a dumbass if you think pointing out just one of the variety of mistakes on that map is useful. Or is that just the only mistake you caught? Try reading a fucking book.

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>>127804653

>>127804462
Those redskin subhumans can kiss my ass. They already get those fucking reservations, and they are barely intelligent enough to manage those.

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North America before colonization

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>>127804653
FPBP again

>>127807305
Yeah I really hope that map is a joke.

>>127804462
"Great Sioux Nation"
"Sioux" in most native languages meant "enemy".
The "Sioux" were actually Lakota, a great tribe that even Custer couldn't fight, that's why they had to send a few more after the battle of the Little Bighorn to clean up.
Things were gonna get a lot more heated, America realized they needed to end this movement.
This was most likely the strongest movement against the U.S. military in modern history.
Source, Lakota, and white, fuck off.

>>127809001
half the white-labeled tribe names mean enemy. Souix means enemy. Apache means enemy. White man would ask a friendly tribe who those assholes over there were and they'd reply in whatever word they had for enemy.

>>127804653
>aridoamerica was aztec empire and not chichimeca's turf instead
top kek

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>>127804653

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That map is 100% bullshit and here's how I know without needing to look it up:

The Iroquois Confederacy dominates the Great Lakes region. That means it is, without a doubt, not only after contact, it's after settlement had begun.

The Iroquois Confederacy was limited to what is today Upstate New York and parts of Pennsylvania before the Beaver Wars. Wars driven by trade with the French, English and Dutch. That was the series of genocidal conflicts in which they expanded into the territory you see on that map, by literally exterminating the groups there so thoroughly some of them have had their very name lost to history.

Bullshit post is bullshit

>>127812826
fuck off injun, go back to the teepee and wait for the fireworks

>>127812890
Agreed, the best way to fight or circumvent a government is to find the pussy's enemy.
See The Bolshevik Revolution, and how easy it is to turn the common people against their "aggressors".

>>127813158
Will do, thanks for the feedback.

>>127804462
Where's the Wichita?

>>127804462
and those people also came from africa, at one point. so... yeah. they we're kangz n shit too.

>>127813245
I open the gibs I give you in taxes every year are enough to feed your alcohol and cirgarette intake

>>127810268
>Aztecs
>Mayans
>Olmecs

The rest don't count--they were all nomads the above three enslaved constantly for the lulz.

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>>127804462
the aztecs knew english, whou would have thought it?

>>127813357
Not likely, I'm too white, also cigs cost the same on my rez vs most other shitty state rez.
Don't live there, but at least I only have to deal with drunk prairie niggers instead of whatever shitstorm you are dealing with.
Wherever you hate comes from I'm thankful I've never had to deal with it.

The Indian Wars became a Jew war for the Rothschild-owned railroads. It continues to this day. They just tried to sell off a bunch of Apache land to a Rothschild-owned copper company. White man: the Jews' attack dog. Arf arf!

>>127812826
To bad you got your sorry asses whipped by a few hundred Delaware. Go back to Minnesota where you belong

>>127804462
Because it's flat out untrue. Most North American natives were nomadic or seminomadic. They did not have set borders. They did not even have a conception of set borders, or real estate as property.

Beyond that, the map isn't even accurate in the areas it carves up. For instance it gives territory to the Anasazi people, who cohabited in the areas covered by Navajo, who I don't see represented.

The very word Anasazi is a Navajo word which means enemy, and they vanished from the Earth before whites rediscovered the New World. Of course, it is a pure mystery why their civilization went extinct, but a very real possibility is that the other Indians genocided them.

Which is an idea that of course the libtards will never consider because it flies in the face of the narrative that says all white people are uniquely evil and before whites everyone just sat around singing kumbaya. But of course, if you know anything about the Plains Indians, you would know that for the entirety of time we have written history of them, those mother fuckers were ruthlessly brutal in unimaginable ways. The Comanche and Apache in particular were perhaps some of the most creatively evil people from then until ISIS. If you want to learn about Amerindians, THAT is the lesson you should be taught.

>>127806098
thinking anyone is interested in your red indian bullshit

in teh current year

on the current board

>>127804462
no.... actualy those borders are completely fucking wrong

>>127804462
Map is wrong, at least in mexico
Aztec empire wasnt that far north, and many other tribes were around, like zapotecs
Also, olmecs existed centuries before the aztecs and were the first culture of the area that spawned most of the rest

>>127813586
Further west idiot, I'm a plains Indian, not some forest fuck. So once again, suck a dick and realize all this is fucked.
I'm as white as everyone else around here, but I have something I hold onto, my tribalism, and I will keep that as long as I can.
MAGA faggot.

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>>127813577
Niggers are the Jew's attack dog. They sign gangsta rappers to their labels in order to brainwash the youth into perpetuating gang violence and to keep blacks/whites at each other's throat.

>>127806098
Also known as
>A culture that never developed agriculture or passed the stone age.
The irony is that the mound builders in the south east and the Cliff dwellers out west actually we're on the path to civilization but both collapsed for various internal and external pressures

>>127806098
Truth. But it's livestock, not "life stock" figure it out fucker.

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>>127804462
Millions of retarded shitskins defeated by +/- 100 white men.

>>127813810
No you are a descendant worthless barbarians who were in Minnesota until horses trickled up and then you stole land from the actual plains people around 1700. Learn fucking history you LARPing piece of shit.

>>127814321
Not likely, but if that's what you want to believe then that is that. Fuck off fag.

>>127810872

Old enemies. But they don't like that term since it implied they got genocide.
>>127811914

Fucking Yosemite means The Killers since the tribe that lived there was hostile as fuck

>>127814622
Because it's a fucking fact, all the big plains indians were new comers and the French and Spanish have a better claim on the land then you woodland types do.

>>127814622
>ID starts with WE
WE

>>127807416
Coast Miwok master race.

>>127804462
I've always wanted to see a map like this. Just one time.

Problem is, the US government doesn't want American Indians and descendants to take more land. IRONICALLY Mexicans don't like it either because they want us to think they're originally fro here (yeah right).

>>127804462
Why are none of these tribes together? Aren't we all one race that can all get along?

>>127804462
>Olmecs living at the same time as the Aztecs
>Mayans living at the same time as the Aztecs

They were long gone way before the Aztecs wandered into Mexico

>>127809577
>>127809900
checked and lol'd

>>127807305
FWIW the government forcibly relocated some tribes, but I have no idea what the history is.

>>127804462
There is nothing wrong with people learning history
but that map is wrong

it really stimulates the neurons

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Europeans conquered this land, the US further conquered it and then gave the survivors their own lands to govern. I'm not sorry that your ancestors had inferior military capabilities and were dumb.

>>127804653
haha

>>127804462
slavey
>slav
WE

>>127816046
WUZ

Blackfoot looks like AUS

Completely inaccurate representation of Haifa gwaii, racists, really discriminating against the Kwakiutl, Salish, and chilcotin.
And calling the Beothuk an empire is a hella stretch

>1 post with this ID
Stop falling for the fucking bait slide threads /pol/

sage

they didn't have "nations" with defined "borders"

They just kind of wandered around their mostly-empty continent

>>127816464
>1post

Not anymore faggot

>>127811084
Source? Not doubting you, just looking for a good PNW native history book.

>>127812654
I HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS MAP IN ALL 16 YEARS OF MY EDUCATION SYSTEM

>>127805161
This, as a Nooksack, I am disappoint. It's should be Coast Salish not Haida. This map is bullshit. It is not even linguistically correct.

>>127814321
You could make your point without the hostility senpai.

General William Sherman bragged of "racial cleansing of the land,” beginning with extermination of the Indians.
Sherman announced his objective as to fight the Indians until the Indians are obliterated or beg for mercy. Sherman gave authorization to slaughter as many women and children as he felt was necessary when they attacked Indian villages.
Sherman called the “final solution of the Indian problem” involved “killing Indians and segregating their pauperized survivors in remote places.”
Sherman’s overall policy was never accommodation and compromise, but vigorous war against the Indians,” whom he regarded as “a less-than-human and savage race.
Sherman viewed Indians as he viewed Southerners". During the Civil War, Sherman practiced a total war of destruction of property used to feed women & children … Now the army, in its Indian warfare, wiped out entire villages.”
Sherman ordered his men when encountering Indians, “to act with all the vigor he had shown in the Shenandoah Valley during the final months of the Civil War.”, where they burned and plundered the Valley when only women, children, and elderly remained there.
Sherman insisted that the only answer to the Indian problem was all-out war — of the kind he had utilized against Southern civilians.
Sherman's compulsion was extermination. In a letter to his wife early in the war, he declared that his ultimate purpose was “extermination of the people of the South, till not one habitation is left standing."
Sherman considered Indians to be subhuman and racially inferior to whites and therefore deserving of extermination.
Sherman himself thought of the former slaves in exactly the same way. “The Indians give a fair illustration of the fate of the negroes if they are released from the control of the whites,” he once said.

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>>127804462
That looks like an Alternate History map considering it says the current year is 2015 on the map.

Let's just post whatever map we have and say it reflects reality.

>>127804462

Fuck off the Comanche were the most brutal, gore tribe in the history of mankind. They would have conquered the other tribes.

https://www.amazon.com/Empire-Summer-Moon-Comanches-Powerful/dp/1849017034

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>>127820677

>>127819736
Like the Hopi existing?

>>127820868
I've been to Brockway before.

It's on the map for sure.

>>127820857

And the nearby tribes paid the Comanche tributes so that they would not go crazy and slaughter everyone else.

For the layman: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2396760/How-Comanche-Indians-butchered-babies-roasted-enemies-alive.html

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>>127804462
THIS IS FAKE NEWS; THE APACHE ARE THE NIGGERS OF THE INDIANS AND THE NAVAJO HAD ALL OF FUCKING ARIZONA AND MOST OF UTAH TO THEMSELVES--- THIS IS A YUUGE LIBERAL LIE

What happened to the notion that American Indians didn't believe in owning land?

>>127810268
Vaguely yes, there were also North American tribes living on permanent settlements.

It doesnt even come near to what this map is trying to imply though

>>127820914
Why shouldn't the Hopi exist?

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>>127815274
WUZ

>>127821371

The map is not correct, but each tribe had its own territory.

> 'When they first migrated to the great plains of the American South in the late 18th century from the Rocky Mountains, not only did they achieve dominance over the tribes there, they almost exterminated the Apaches, among the greatest horse warriors in the world.' The key to the Comanche’s brutal success was that they adapted to the horse even more skilfully than the Apaches. >>127821105

>>127819263
>Burger education :^)

>>127804462
>Iroquois owned the whole great lakes region
>no Algonquin

took me two seconds to see a flaw
come on niggers. step out of the white mans cave

>>127822079
Joke's on you Hans, I was trolling all along.

It's a fake map created for some fan fiction shit you mongoloids

http://www.snopes.com/america-colonization-map/

Even ((snopes)) says so

> The Comanche bands were loose associations of warrior-raiders, like a confederation of small street gangs.

> They were infamous for their inventive tortures, and women were usually in charge of the torture process.
The Comanche roasted captive American and Mexican soldiers to death over open fires. Others were castrated and scalped while alive. The most agonizing Comanche tortures included burying captives up to the chin and cutting off their eyelids so their eyes were seared by the burning sun before they starved to death.

> Contemporary accounts also describe them staking out male captives spread-eagled and naked over a red-ant bed. Sometimes this was done after excising the victim’s private parts, putting them in his mouth and then sewing his lips together.

> One band sewed up captives in untanned leather and left them out in the sun. The green rawhide would slowly shrink and squeeze the prisoner to death.

> T R Fehrenbach quotes a Spanish account that has Comanche torturing Tonkawa Indian captives by burning their hands and feet until the nerves in them were destroyed, then amputating these extremities and starting the fire treatment again on the fresh wounds. Scalped alive, the Tonkawas had their tongues torn out to stop the screaming.

> The Comanche always fought to the death, because they expected to be treated like their captives. Babies were almost invariably killed in raids.

> Comanche boys — including captives — were raised to be warriors and had to endure bloody rites of passage. Women often fought alongside the men.

I found another site http://www.reclinercommentaries.com/2011/04/fate-worse-than-death.html

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>>127822265
Jokes on you, i was trolling the troll who trolled a troll
OY GEVALT i'm getting dizzy...

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>>127804653
You do realize you're literally going to hell for that being your automatic response, I hope.

>>127822183
>>Iroquois owned the whole great lakes region
>>no Algonquin
>took me two seconds to see a flaw

This.

>>127804462
thats coloring book level native history

David Yeagley https://www.youtube.com/user/DavidYeagley/videos

This map is also bullshit and thinks that the Natives all lived peacefully, AND also lived in one spot. History shows that many tribes moved in on areas that were owned by other tribes.

as fpbp says, there was no border control

>>127804462
Mexico owes the Native Americans some land it seems.

>>127822366
>their tongues cut out to stop the screaming

Learn to spot obvious exaggerations and embellishments.

>>127805794
What about all these great native ansectrial casinos like mukilshoot tulalip and emerald green.

>>127804462
They were savages almost on par with niggers. Fuck em

>>127822693

There were other pacifist tribes, but you're wrong. Every source tells us that the Comanche acted this way and loved to torture the enemies. Don't leftwash history.

>>127805121
Aaaaand this is precisely the sort of reason I left "Objectivism" behind.

>>127822366
This, Texan here, they called the full moon a "Comanche moon" because thats when they would attack, during the civil war, the Texas Rangers went to fight, the comanche pushed settlement back 100 miles

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2396760/How-Comanche-Indians-butchered-babies-roasted-enemies-alive.html
>She had been disfigured beyond all recognition in the 18 months she had been held captive by the Comanche Indians.
>Now, she was being offered back to the Texan authorities by Indian chiefs as part of a peace negotiation.
>To gasps of horror from the watching crowds, the Indians presented her at the Council House in the ranching town of San Antonio in 1840, the year Queen Victoria married Prince Albert.
>‘Her head, arms and face were full of bruises and sores,’ wrote one witness, Mary Maverick. ‘And her nose was actually burnt off to the bone. Both nostrils were wide open and denuded of flesh.’
>Once handed over, Matilda Lockhart broke down as she described the horrors she had endured — the rape, the relentless sexual humiliation and the way Comanche women had tortured her with fire. It wasn’t just her nose, her thin body was hideously scarred all over with burns.
>When she mentioned she thought there were 15 other white captives at the Indians’ camp, all of them being subjected to a similar fate, the Texan lawmakers and officials said they were detaining the Comanche chiefs while they rescued the others.

This would result in the texas courthouse massacre, theres a John Wayne movie called "The Searchers" that is based off of this or a similar event, it's pretty good, he liked it so much he named one of his sons after the character he played
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S6iFW-HoFwc

>>127809246
Ho-Chunk and Chippewa?

i dont even think drunk inbred natives on a reservation would think this is an accurate.

>>127822607

And some of them migrated depending on the season

>>127822883
Not the courthouse massacre, but the comanche kidnapping a girl
Also more from the article because why not
>One by one, the children and young women were pegged out naked beside the camp fire,’ according to a contemporary account. ‘They were skinned, sliced, and horribly mutilated, and finally burned alive by vengeful women determined to wring the last shriek and convulsion from their agonised bodies. Matilda Lockhart’s six-year-old sister was among these unfortunates who died screaming under the high plains moon.’

>The historian T R Fehrenbach, author of Comanche: The History Of A People, tells of a raid on an early settler family called the Parkers, who with other families had set up a stockade known as Fort Parker. In 1836, 100 mounted Comanche warriors appeared outside the fort’s walls, one of them waving a white flag to trick the Parkers.
>‘Benjamin Parker went outside the gate to parley with the Comanche,’ he says. ‘The people inside the fort saw the riders suddenly surround him and drive their lances into him. Then with loud whoops, mounted warriors dashed for the gate. Silas Parker was cut down before he could bar their entry; horsemen poured inside the walls.’
>Survivors described the slaughter: ‘The two Frosts, father and son, died in front of the women; Elder John Parker, his wife ‘Granny’ and others tried to flee. The warriors scattered and rode them down.
>‘John Parker was pinned to the ground, he was scalped and his genitals ripped off. Then he was killed. Granny Parker was stripped and fixed to the earth with a lance driven through her flesh. Several warriors raped her while she screamed.
>‘Silas Parker’s wife Lucy fled through the gate with her four small children. But the Comanche overtook them near the river. They threw her and the four children over their horses to take them as captives.’

>>127812826
reno stacked you fucks like cord wood at the same battle. you beat how many guys? with how many injuns?
shouldnt you be drinking or injecting insulin into your body?

>>127813810
you're white you say with a few drops of mud in you. you choose to be proud of people who were stone age savages but hey you saw some injun propaganda.

>>127812826
You beat George Custer but you got your asses handed you you by Jack Daniels

>>127822883
amazing stuff anon

>>127804462
Does he really not know this is an alternative history map?
This is a map for role playing and shit...

>>127810268
>well...ours indeed was an empire
Indeed it was. An empire of horror. I guess some of them are still around in shape of narcos

>>127810268
Lasted less than a century and ruled an area smaller than New Mexico.

>>127823739

There were savages, but not stupid.
If Sub-Saharan Africans were as adaptive as the Comanche, I doubt Europe would have been able to conquer Africa. They mastered horse riding in less than a century, but they've never seen a horse before. Fascinating people.

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>>127824462

It's not that hard to mount a horse when you see other do the same Gepetto

>>127824051
>be mexican
>bullet goes through your window
>druggie overdoses in your flower bed
>boys will be boys
>turn on the tv
>another mass grave in your neighborhood how exciting
>go out to make a bet with your neighbor, who is changing the oil on his donkey whether it is a cartel or an aztec grave
>30 homeless kids run into your house and disappear, no doubt to chew on your copper wire

>>127824660

>be unitedstatian
>go to school
>get shot
>go to shopping center
>get shot
>go to the local store
>get shot
>go to bed
>pray to god for allowing you to own guns
>get shot

>>127824937
>be texas
>be fat
>be mexican
>be blue state by 2020

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>>127824937
Shut up chilli, the white crime rate is on par with any white eurpeon country, and thats including you light spics

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>>127807416
This is a partial map from the time of contact with Europeans. Note that each area has dozens of subgroups, many of which spoke languages mildly related yet mutually unintelligible.

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>>127825231
>kawaiisu
Mother of god...

>>127825144

You can't have two countries inside one my dixie friend.
It's either the entire population or nothing

>>127825541
do some helicopter stunts again chilibean

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>>127825541
Blacks arent human though, why should they be included?

>>127804653
lefties are retarded when one post can destroy their entire world view

>>127810268
>ours
WE

>>127805121
>aliens who come to earth deserve to destroy us

>>127825633

Would love too m8. Just give us a hand like last time.

>>127825673

Can they breed with humans? Yes.
Are they humans? Yes.

>>127809577
>privyet
>*boom*

>>127807015
underrated post

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>>127826155
>but black people are-

>>127804462
All those great empires wiped out by a dirty blanket!

>>127819736

>utes arent even in utah
>pawnee arent in indiana
>no anasazi

Yep. Bullshit

>>127810268
The Aztec Empire half as big as it's depicted in the picture. Still, even though many great civilizations arised in America, that's a thing in the past. It's sad how these people are so complexed about living in a white man's world that they desperatedly try to claim that we should omit the last 400 years of history, while retaining the privileges of living in a white society.

>>127826542

fuck dem whities pendejo

>>127804462
and they were fighting each other for ~5000 years
amazing..

>Indians believed in nation states, borders,and private property
Where do people get this garbage from?

>>127804462
That's cause it's fucking made up.

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>>127804653

>>127804653
FUCK YOU RACIST SEXIST NAZI SCUM DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE!!!!!
buzzfeed is far better then anything you literal scum of the earth could ever do. I hope you all get KILLED to DEATH by "illegals" DIE!!!!!!!!!