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Why does Socialism work in Scandinavian countries only?

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Dunno, ask all those raped women
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>>127800033
because they are (or were) 100% white.

the ultimate red pill is realizing that any form of economic organization (capitalism, socialism, etc.) will work in a white country, and any form of economic organization will fail in a nigger or brown country.

IQ >>> all else
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>>127800033
because WHITE PEOPLE!!!!!

That's the answer you're looking for, isn't it?
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>Small population
>No diversity so everyone thinks the same
>Money

All three out the window when you bring rapefugees
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>>127800190
This

Even a fucking shitty system like communism/socialism made the USSR a fucking superpower. That itself is proof that a decent country can be made with most systems as long as the people are quality
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>>127800033
It doesn't, it used to a decade ago when the countries were still somewhat homogeneous
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>>127800033
It doesn't. All Scandinavian countries are capitalist.
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>>127800033
It doesn't. It's to early to tell. Socialism in those countries has existed for 60 or so years. It's an experiment doomed to fail.
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>>127800190
Can confirm. I was an exchange student in 2003, have gone back many times since. The place is fucked now. Wife and I are you going to Iceland this year for vacation.
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>>127800033
Would bang 8/10
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>>127800190
True to an extent.
Still white capitalist country will be significantly more prosperous than white socialist one.
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>>127800033
qt alert
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>>127800033
Pretty soon it won't. There's your answer
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doesnt seem to be working so well in sweden with all the debt theyre accumulating. norway has oil so its a bit of a special case (money tree essentially). no clue about the danes.
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>>127800033
>socialism works
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1. Homogenous population
2. Oil money to support it
3. ????
4. Socialism
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>>127800033
""""""""""works""""""""""
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>>127800708
Danes: No immigration.
Same with Norway.
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Because they were industrial capitalists first.
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>>127800512
This.
Socialism is when the state owns the means of production. Last time I checked Ikea and Saab were not owned by Captain Sweden.
Does Noway Nationalize its oil? Anyone know?
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>>127800190
hahaha im imagining interrupting some civil debates about which economic or political system a 3rd world country should use and just shouting that it doesnt matter what niggers use theyll always fail. Think of those facial expressions
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>>127800970

i think they all get money or have a collective fund
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>>127800033
>scandinavia
>socialism
are you baiting or you're just brain dead?
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If everyone actually works and doesn't just mooch off gibs while shitting out more babies than you can afford, it actually works fine.
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It worked when they were 99% white and being a welfare leech meant no woman would touch you.

Now they've been flooded by niggers and Arabs who view working as a bad thing and raping/stealing as a good and honorable thing.
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>>127800033
It doesn't. They're all capitalist.
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>>127800177
fpbp
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I mean they have socialized healthcare, but they are far from full socialism. There are plenty Scandinavian private companies.
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>>127800033
I think it boils down to actual ethnic nationalism. Notice how each of these nations are all made up of people who share their own common ancestry, language, religion, and values. It works there because, historically, everyone believes in the welfare of their own kind.
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>>127800512
>>127800970

Hitler believed in private property and free markets therefore national socialist Germany was capitalist by your logic.
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>>127801432
It was. The actual socialists were killed in the Night of the Long Knives.
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>>127800629
>>127800679
she legit convert islam, burns coal and has shitskin children
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>>127800033

it use to work until they let in the nignogs, dindus and sandniggers.
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>>127801504
Entirely untrue, shill fuckbag.
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>>127801504
wtf

Is she a Kike? I can kinda see it.
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>>127800033
Because it's homogenous and lightly populated...well, it used to be. Only a matter of time before their welfare system is overwhelmed by niggers and sandniggers flooding in. Then their Socialism won't look so great.
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>>127800900
Danes still have immigration. It's just way stricter.
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>>127800190

Riddle me this leaf.

How come East Germany was a shithole while West Germany prospered? Or take the Korean people, another group with a high average IQ. How come North Korea is terrible while South Korea is prosperous?

Institutions matter. They matter a lot.
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>>127801432
It was moral capitalism. NatSoc socialism is socialist in the sense that the government takes care of the people if shit gets bad or if the private companies end up harming the nation. The were not socialist in the Marxist sense.
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http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com/2016/07/is-socialism-only-for-really-really.html

>Sunday, July 03, 2016
Is Socialism Only for (Really Really) White People?
The latest news coming out of Venezuela surprises no one who has a basic understanding of economics, let alone common senses. However it did jump-start a question that had been lurking in my mind before, and I'm surprised I hadn't thought of earlier:

"Is socialism/communism only for white people?"

And by white people understand I mean REALLY REALLY white people, because if you think about it, the only place "socialism" has worked (sorta), is the Nordic countries.

Latino/Hispanic Venezuela, Ecuador, and Bolivia have all gone through large swings to the left and only have a shortage of toilet paper to show for it. Chinese communism (again, not white) only managed to kill more people during peacetime than any world war ever did. Its smaller oriental siblings of Vietnam and Cambodia certainly didn't make a good go of communism either. Ethiopia (again, not white) needed both Soviet money and easily-duped 1980's American kids' monies to not starve. Greece, hee hee, Greece. And even the Soviet Union, though pretty-darn white and even the original practitioner, was just not white enough to pull off communism successfully.

Apparently, it is only the Swedes, Finns, Norwegians, and Danes who can do socialism the justice the rest of the world can't.

But why?

First, we need to take out the obvious outlier of the group, Norway. Again, the left loooooves rushing to Norway as the perfect place to live. It sure is, especially since it has so much oil it sovereign wealth fund makes all of its citizens millionaires. And remember, oil is evil...unless it's under a state owned enterprise, then you never mention it.
...

Great article, too long to post. click link for more.
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>>127800033
"Why did it work in the past" is a better question. Scandinavians have a bit of a collectivist culture in general and are generally hardworking and productive people. The problem is that the leftards attributed it to "muh marxist social philosophy" rather than the innate qualities of the Scandinavians and convinced them that taking on shitskins would boost their socialist power levels and the economy at the same time.

Now they have shitskin economic dead weight dragging down (and occasionally raping and murdering) what would otherwise be a healthy productive society.
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>>127800033
ITT
>muh white people
you guys and your simplistic answers

it works because it's not full blown socialism, as in, they still have a capitalist society and they use the economic output of this capitalism to pay for the socialized institutions. It works as long as the cost of running the socialized institutions is smaller than the economic output of your mainly capitalist economy

without capitalism, it would fail
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>>127800962
They're still capitalist, really. Scandinavians love trade. They just love universal healthcare and post secondary too.
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>>127801580
its true

>>127801584
shes norwegian
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>>127801980
This
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>>127800033

It's Capitalist
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>>127800033
It doesn't, it just takes longer for things to fail with a more educated and wealthy starting off point. The reason now euro leaders want immigration is they realize their socialism wont worth if the population is stable or decreasing.

Its a ponzi scheme that NEEDS new human cattle to feed the beast.

Same with the US and the socialist implementations here.
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>>127800970
The Norwegian state owns the oil, the money goes into a pension fund. Norway is buying stocks in companies all over the world and we own approximately 1% of all stocks in the world.

Most of the money is basically being put away for the future.
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We aren't socialist. We are social democrats. Our system is capitalist, we have private ownership, currency and free market economics. The "social" is a bit harder to explain, it's essentially the concept that the government should always side with the people and not with the wealthy. Thus, mainly, at the expense of the wealthy we're given many services "free". The reason why I'm not just saying "it means we get free healthcare and education" is that the philosophy spills into other stuff as well. It's a compromise between socialism and early 20th century capitalism essentially. At least in Finland.
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>>127802091
Just because she's cute doesn't mean she's not autistic.
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coz there are no negros and women that leech of the working man
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>>127800033

because socialism is really a much better system and nordic countries have always been socialist .

but the issue is not socialism but marxism. marxism is a terrible form of socialism which should be uninstalled from the world. i would burn every single book and completely eradicate all the marxist ideology from the earth. then and only then we could focus on much more functional forms of socialism european kinds that actually help people.

i'd say a center right 45% socialist 55% capitalist free market would be ideal with a monarch at the top and religious leaders having some political power (some)
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>>127800033
no scandinavian country is socialist.
socialism and a welfare state is not the same think at all
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>>127801777
cuck
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>>127800033
It DOESNT.

The inherent problem with Socialism is that it requires an ever expanding tax base. The reason EU politicians want so many refugees is a vain hope that they will support the next generation of pensioners.
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>>127801980
Can't have a market economy that functions well enough to pay for Socialist institutions when you have too many low IQ shitskin welfare leeches.
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>>127800033
Dearth of niggers
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>>127802366
yeah it is dummy

welfare is socialism

there are many kinds of socialism. for ex nazism was socialism. peronism in argentina socialism. what you got now in china socialism. canada is also socialist . etc
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>>127802240
>d-don't worry citizen, just taking some resources to plan for the future so that we don't have to do anything drastic!
>citizen! accept these foreign hordes or our socialism won't have a future!
lol
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>>127802549
You must be 18+ to post here.
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>>127800177
fpbp and checked
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>>127802398

So you think institutions don't matter? You're dumb as a rock if you think they don't. Look at China. A complete and utter hellhole under Mao, and then massive GDP growth starting with Xiaoping to the present.

Now don't get me wrong. IQ matters a lot and no set of institutional remedies can fix sub-saharan African nations. But even high-IQ groups such as White and East Asians will not thrive if they are living under shitty institutions.
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>>127800033
whites by nature feel shame for taking welfare, so it really only is used when its needed.
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>>127801504
Sad
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>>127801980
>it works because it's not full blown socialism

So you mean it was national socialism? Because national socialism still utilizes free markets and allows for private property.
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>>127802549
>Canada
>socialist
You either are really uninformed or must be from the Prairies.
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>>127800457
homogeneous
this
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>>127800033
It's not working. The only reason it's lasted this long is oil money and the US paying for their defense for the last 70 years. But now they have to import Muslims to try to prop up their balance sheet but as we know that's even worse.
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>>127802914

ontario is socialist asf
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>>127801777
you can cherry pick 2 counterexamples and I can cherry pick more. Look at modern day china.

you need to quote a rigorous study:

>Gerring et al. (2005, p. 323) conclude from their review of the academic
literature until the mid-2000s that “the net effect of democracy on growth performance crossnationally
over the last five decades is negative or null.”

institutions dont mean shit if theyre filled with niggers
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>>127802698
check your flag...
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>>127800033
>>127800033 (OP)
1. Socialism only "works" to the degree it's being propped up by the profits of capitalism.
2. They had an ethnostate and all the undeniable benefits that come from a homogenous population.
3. They're aren't really socialist anymore.
>>127800346
A "decent country" cannot be made with communism.
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>>127802914

You know Ontario is getting universal basic income right?
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>>127800033
It doesn't. Their collapsing birth rates and cucked culture is the sign of a dying nation. Socialism made them into sterile perma-children.
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>>127802948
and the population, we're only 5 million
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Because Scandinavians are honest and upright and they don't abuse the system.
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Because they are not socialist! They social programs and they limit them!
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>>127803144
So your saying socialism works when you are ethnically homogeneous? If only there were a version of socialism that was nationalistic...
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>>127800033
rich country, smaller population, doesn't have to spend too much money on military, and mostly white population (until recently)
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>>127800033

God damn that bitch is fine.
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>>127803343
(until recently)
are you jealous of not being a white country?
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>>127801777
checked and truth. you can't upend the fundamentals of human action.
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>>127803061

I'm not referring to democracy. I'm referring to economic institutions.

Learn to think you leftist (and by that I mean someone on the left side of the IQ bell curve).
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>>127801502
>>127801848
Read points 10 thru 21 of the NS program, please.
National socialism detests capitalism only moderately less than bolshevism.
Anybody who's trying to teach you otherwise is subverting.
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>>127803002
Ontario is the autistic rich kid of Canada. No wonder. I'd rather live up in the fucking territories than in Ontario.
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>>127803143
>Ontario
>1 out of 10 provinces
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>>127803477

t. triggered norgaygeian
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>>127803521
the whole institutions argument has an enormous endogeniety problem and is thus very hard to prove causally.

It seems just as likely that a country can become prosperous and then have fair labour practices and ways to settle investor disputers and private property than it is the other way around.
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>>127801432
He believed in personal property (houses, belongings, etc. as opposed to big factories and such) and private enterprise (you enjoy rewards of your own labor but these rewards and the labor you do aren't determined by a free market, which is volatile and more-often-than-not working contrary to the interests of the society)
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>>127800033
i'm sure it works in other countries as well, but it makes sense to make a country communist if they lack a lot of resources.
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>>127800033

IT'S NOT SOCIALISM
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>>127804376
I would say it's a nice mix
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>>127800177
I'll drink a Belgian beer for that one.

>>127801777
East Germany was still orders of magnitude more successful than any country in Africa.
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>>127804464
This.
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>>127800033
it doesn't, moron
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>>127801504
Who is she?
>>127800033
Their economy are completely based on the free market, this means that they are not socialists.
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>>127804643
that has to do with immigration of low-IQ third world countries, not socialism. Doesn't the US have a problem with illegal aliens killing and raping too?
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Low testosterone levels.
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>>127800033
It's a weird capitalist/socialist hybrid. The socialist half feeds off the capitalist half like a parasite, so that's how it 'works'. If it ever kills the host, it's dead too tho.
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>socialism will always work where there's no niggers.
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>>127804748
Her name is Emilie Nereng and has never dated niggers or shitskins.
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>>127804643
>84% of Swedes dependent in some form on government welfare
That's because their welfare covers things like the cost of tuition and provides students with a study allowance so they don't have to work shitty jobs if they don't want to while focusing on their studies.

Also, that's only Sweden. There are four more that do just fine.
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>>127804867
>capitalism will work in nigger countries
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>>127803591
In the sense of "too big to fail" capitalism, yes, Hitler hated it. But capitalism, at its core, is defined by private ownership of property and companies. Hitler allowed those things to exist as long as they didn't harm the well being of the nation, which is why I said it's a type of moral capitalism. The point we're trying to make is that NatSoc socialism is not Marxist socialism.
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>>127800033
They just haven't run out of other people's money yet.
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>>127805313
Of course it's not Marxist socialism. But it's not any kind of capitalism, either. Just like Marx's socialism there's philosophy and ideology attached to capitalism.
At its core, capitalism's defined by the function of "capital" in the economy. That's all the money and assets that exist to make the owner a further profit. The philosophy being that not only should people privately own their own belongings but the economy itself, through the means of production, and by extension the entire nation save for the bureaucracy.
The capitalist model's built explicitly around that.
NatSoc rejects it. The only asset that should exist for creating a profit is your labor, physical or mental. The people should not "own" the nation or the economy, they should simply comprise it. It should be part of them and them of it.

What do you reckon?
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>>127804824
Socialism always imports turd-world scum because they need more taxpayers and welfare recipients, kid
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because they're white and autistic as fuck
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>>127800033

Because they only work best when you have an "honor system" which benefits law-abiding whites and asians. Other minorities just use and abuse it, at the generosity of whitey.
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Because we built up enough wealth when we we're more of a free-market economy. We are now well beyond that point.
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It will break down soon enough and when it does those countries will fucking burn. Eventually the government will run out of other people's money.

This socialist bullshit only leads to ruin. It's only a matter of time.
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>>127808072
>>127808449
T_D lib brainlets need to go back.
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>>127800190
THIS!
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>>127800033

Homogeneous culture, predominately white, and smaller populations.
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>>127800033
Not taking any sides here but the Nordic model isn't socialist. It's a market economy with a huge entitlement apparatus that worked because Scandinavia used to be a high trust community that only used state entitlements when necessary
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>>127801432
Nat soc Germany was third position economically aka mixed market
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it doesnt even work there. it has made them so soft they let their women be raped and ask for more
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>>127800625
May I ask where your wife is from anon?
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>>127800033
It works when Socialism is combined with Nationalism
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>>127800033
Norway literally has megatons of oil also. always overlooked.
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Everyone is a little bit racist. When you have a diverse population religiously, ethnically racially and culturally it is harder to convince people to help their neighbor when they dont look like you.

Cities are more leftist/socialist though, so I could be wrong.
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>>127800190
>>127800346

>civilization around since a few hundred years after Christ
>barbarians until they become Christianized
>go along pretty well for about 1400 years or so
>become Communist in 1917
>Attempt to root out the church
>fail
>social and political system collapses despite the absence of a major armed conflict
>took only 74 years for communism to destroy a prosperous and respectful nation forged by over a millenium of development.

It's not race. It's creed, specifically Christianity. Name a superpower today that doesn't have some Christian influence in its history at least.

China doesn't count.
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>>127800033

Very few niggers.
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>>127813446
What's the specific influence from Christianity that you think made them into superpowers?
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>>127813446
It has nothing to do with christianity you dumb larping christcuck.
It has everything to do with the fact that we're white and our genetics and intellect. Nothing more, nothing less
If anything christianity held us back until it lost political power
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>>127813883

Christianity contains all the elements needed to get people to live peacefully and properly.

>property rights
>dispute resolution
>forgiveness
>work ethic
>family values
>death for degeneracy like adultery that spreads social decay

>>127814240
Yeah, you must be right you dumb faggot. Look how great France is doing! It is/was a white country and they fucking turned it into a shitehole.

In the old testament God punished nations by giving their land to their enemies. That's probably what he's doing with France, which used to be Catholic and then turned its back on God (first in French Revolution and now again in modernity).

Also, need I remind you that Europeans lived just like every other savage bastard tribe in the ancient days? The Middle Ages weren't much better, and then Martin Luther got a Bible into the hands of all the laymen and BAM!- the enlightenment happened and ONLY THEN did white Europa become dominant.

You're a fucking dumbass man. White people can and will turn back into savages, it was GOD that made us great.
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>>127800033
It doesn't, don't fall for this idiotic meme.
Look it's the same how you all said Iceland was the least corrupt country in the world. Nobody bothered to check. Like pols here they pruddy up numbers on top of it, so it looks good to the world, they are extreme at this here. Make no mistake this state is rotten to it's core. It's all fucking Soviet style lies mate.

>1. People have not had so bad teeth since during WW2
>2. Medcare is basically non existent as it is so bad, and you have to wait for years for a simple operation
>3. If you would get sick, you will lose your job, due to waiting time to get an operation
>4. Doctors are protected, as is all other shits in the state, so they are really really really shitty
>5. Indoctrination is extreme through schooling and etc
>6. Food is so expensive you would faint
>7. There is really no rule of law, friends of cops(and county, state etc) and cops do as they please. That means you can get your drivers license taken away for no reason, arrested for no reason. Because you IE have a neighbour problem with a cop or friend of cop.
>8. Cops run parts of the drug trade and have been doing so since it exploded in the 90ies
>9. We're the 7th worst country to run a business in, in the entire world, Best Korea at the bottom
>10. You have NO rights
>11. You earn more from washing floors than being a kickass engineer.
I can go on forever

Stop this idiotic meme, most foreigners from the west that move here turn around, they get a shock.

>Corrupt as FUCK, but we're not niggers so we hide it and you are stupid enough to just buy "our" pols lies to sell the country as we're not relevant.
I fucking hate this state
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>>127801777
Communism doesn't work, period.
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>>127800190
>IQ >>> all else

If that were true Israel and China would be paradise, but they are dumps so its more than just IQ, western Europeans have a mix of creativeness and altruism/compassion/empathy that other races lack and thats why white western countries have always been the best places to live and the reason why shitskins slavs flood into white western countries.
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Its too early for Scandinavian shitposting at least wait till we all wake up its 0750 for gods sake
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Fucking christfag, if you had your way we'd still be land working plebs thanking god for another king marrying his cousin. Christianity was the least shitty of the bunch to get us to the enlightenment.

Fuck commies, but fuck god fuckers too. Capitalism works just fine without you godcucks.
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>>127800033
Because that socialism is subsidized by capitalism.
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>>127813446
Zimbabwe is like 90% christian
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This is very common
>Be hard working construction worker, worked hard all his life
>Gets injured
>Pays mad taxes, and gets head filled with propaganda
oy vey give us over half your shekels in plain tax, it's so noice here. If you get sick or something you don't lose your job, and get shekels while sick.
>This be a contract with the state
>Worker gets injured
1st month no shekels
>Hey WTF
2nd mo no shekels
>HEY FUCK YOU WHAT THE HELL IS THIS CRAP, YOU HAVE ALL PAPERS
We pay nåw [insert lies]
.......
Result:
A perfectly once normal norseman takes his axe, goes to this office of quislings, trashes it with an axe, from a broken leg or whatever to a psycho.

Now he's not just sick, he lost his job and gets jailtime.

Welcome to Norway, this is the normal. And they always with once try to take your car, house away from you.

>Yes yes, I see that you have worked your entire life here, no shekels ey?
>But what about that car there?

DO NOT BELIEVE THE LIES
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>>127815127
But these elements aren't anywhere near to being distinct to Christianity.
Do you already accept that the imposition and enforcement of those values is the main reason theistic religions developed?
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>>127815604
this, I'm groggy as fuck here taking my morning smoke all clouded still. You have a far better system at least and don't got these insane corruption problems all over the board we have here.

I think most Polacks would return home after 2-3 years living here, and realizing how FUCKED this system is. Our hero Fjertvik is nothing but a product of a broken system

>YAAAAWNN
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Look in the US, you get to keep your own shekels. Would you give away your shekels to a stranger to keep it for you for lit decades?

NO. Because what happens when you need your shekels? The person goes; uhm um no you can't have your own shekels. And the beuracrazy here.... You have no idea what a nightmare this shithole is
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>>127816658
We got more incompetence than outright corruption.
Police dont know what they're doing
Politicians don't know what they're doing
I don't even want to talk about our taxes
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>>127800033
It doesn't, Scandinavians are also having a population decline just like every other first world country
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>>127800033
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>>127817345
>We got more incompetence than outright corruption.
Incontinence I forgot that, yeah you don't got these corruption problem like us norse
>Police dont know what they're doing
Your police is God tier compared to ours
>Politicians don't know what they're doing
Mate your pols have always been the best up here, there is a reason why you (illegally) sit on Greenland, the Foroes and sat on Iceland, The Orkneys, The Hebrids, Shetland.... Greenland is important here, the only reason you got away with it, was because your pols know what they are doing(all pols sucks I kno), ours do not. They are only corrupt and quislings.
>I don't even want to talk about our taxes
DUDE! That's fucking insulting.

Denmark is also chill, buy beer and booze at the store and gas station when you want, no fucking state owned monopoly open county hours while everyone is at werk. Drive a bit to fast or some other minor "offense" and you can always talk your way out of it, because you are chill and human.

Try driving 10km over the limit here, and see what happens. Drive 30 over even on the fucking highway with no cars and go to jail.

But having pruttemanden as a national hero on the other hand, you should change that(It's a guy that runs after women jogging and wants them to fart on him)
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>>127800033
except it doesn't
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>>127800033
Oh yet another stupid american that thinks nordic countries are Socialist, Ok retard Our market has less regulations then the american market, So fuck of dumb amerifag
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>>127817470
we're over 5 mill now, in the 90ies it was 4....
Don't fall for these jewish lies, we're overcrowded and that affects what I have not mentioned here
>SICK housing prices. 10 mill for a flat now
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>>127818315
We're not so very relevant, so people live in these fantasies of a non existent utopia in the cold barren harsh north.
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>>127800033
>another you for this faggot

It works when you have a high density of white people with a work ethic.

Sweden is set to become a third world nation sooner than you think.
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Holy fuck. Scandinavians, please do your best to make sure your beautiful women don't get wiped off the face of the earth by filthy nigger genes. That chick is so hot.
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>>127818705
U wot m8
She looks like a normal slightly above average blonde
How ugly are maple girls exactly?
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>>127800033
let me give you a run down.

>homogenous ethnic group
its not just that they're white. They all have a similar linguistic, cultural, religious, and ethnic heritage which they have shared forever.
>relatively small population.

Managing this in a socialist manner is easy as shit. You don't have people with massively diverging world views, physical needs, cultural needs to pander to.

In socialism the goverment controls some of the means for the benefit of the people? Well its really fucking easy if all the people are similar enough to generally want the same thing.

TL:DR: bigger countries and more diverse countries have more shit to deal with. Managing a scandinavian country is literally less difficult than running a soccer team.
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>>127818705
We stick to our self here, foreigners complain a lot about that. Only way to get a hold of us, is when we're out drinking, then everything happens too. When we drink, we drink hard and fight hard too.

Niggers? At least we're good at that point. Sure you will find the one pervert in Oslo that's into bestiality. It's even regional. Grills from that area keeps to men from there, grills from another same there and we're over protective about them(regional again, we're many tribes)
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>>127819022
nothing close to that. and very "diverse". i remember i went to norway and was driving around all these small towns and seeing hot 9/10 blondes everywhere, then went to oslo and it was infested with mudslimes. please don't let them take you guys over.
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>>127800033
It doesn't. Look how stagnate their countries are. They are minor nations that really don't achieve anything globally.
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>>127819246
Grass is greener indeed
I've seen these "9/10s" my whole life and im hungering for something else by now
>>127819330
We find our global niches.
Lego and military technology for example.
Carlsberg too.
But overall yes we are quite stagnant
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>>127818017
Strange, I spend a summer in Bergen and sped often but the cops never seemed to care.

Yeah the food prices are insane but I didn't realize there were so many other problems. Thanks for sharing.
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>>127819115
>Managing a scandinavian country is literally less difficult than running a soccer team.
Yet they are unable to do it... lol

You would all go crazy here in the longer run

About the shitrock police, this be true story from a southern county
>Be familyguy anon
>Get druggie burglar in the middle of the night
Hey fuck you druggie get here
>Gives him a quick beating and locks him in the garage
>Calling the police
Hey officer it's Anon Anonson here, I just caught a burglar and locked him in my garage, my kids are scared, can you come get him
>Sorry no, we're to busy
excuse me?
>We do not have the capacity[we're out collecting shekels for people driving 10km over the limit]
Slams the phone

Now he thinks.... let it sink in... calls again
>Hey it's Anon Anonson again, I ca...
Yes I remember you, what is it this time
>I just called to tell you that I fixed it my self
What... what did you mean by that?

Then he slams the phone

Choppers, tons of cars, tons of officers.......
See all along they had manpower, what they are doing is stalling, because they want more money from the state, so they do this, basically refuse to do their job
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>>127809052

This. Even though they lived in a welfare state, they did not have the same "welfare mentality" that most brown people have.

E.g. even though the government pays for their healthcare and education, they aspire to become something in life instead of just shitting out criminal children endlessly and living off the government.
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>>127818316
your population is increased by immigrants, not birthrates

the system is a total failure, all over the west and westernized countries
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>>127819800
They (and we all are actually) nicer to tourists.
Also see >>127819899

I can give tons of examples of this attitude. But now I must get some food in the system and get going
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It has worked for a while, but it's failing. Norway can't sustain the welfare state with the rising unemployment comimg from a mix of immigration and the fact that every retard job requires a masters degree now. I'm not playing it up either, teaching grades 1-7 requires a 5-year masters degree.

I guess the same thing is happening in Sweden, but more of the immigration.
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>>127800033
Scand countries still have a market system. They just have a bunch of social programs with high taxes.

It works for them because Scands don't mind working even when taxes are high. Bring in nogs, and they don't want to work but still want everyone to pay for them.
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>>127802300
>it's essentially the concept that the government should always side with the people and not with the wealthy

LOLOLOL. That's why stealing from a big corporation lands you in prison for years while you can walk away from a mugging or a gang rape with no prison time.

The nordcuck system is a corporatist nightmare that serves the super wealthy while pretending to be "social". The super wealthy families keep all their wealth safe in investments and pay next to no taxes since capital income is barely taxed and the middle class is paying most of their income in taxes. Sweden doesn't even have an inheritance tax so that the same families can keep owning the country forever and ever while preaching "equality".
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>>127820104
Don't fall for these stupid jewish lies, Europe in general is over populated. Some months ago there were some idiots here spreading rumours that the population on iceland was going extinct. And they went on normie social media.

The iceniggers almost pissed their pants of laughter
>Where the fuck do you get this nonsense from
George Soros and co.

I got 3 siblings, so far two kids and we're producing. I got so many cousins I can't tell you the number on the spot and they typically have 3 children, do the maths. 16k somalis does not account for 1 mill increase, also we're sending them home because we''re full
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS3MU3aqXkI
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>>127800811
plus no defense budget. They get our protection for free. for now at least
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>>127800033
not for long, u bout to get blaqued.
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>>127800033
high work morale
they don't stop going to work after the state starts stealing half their income and redistributing it among 3rd world migrants
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the system in e.g. Sweden is inherently and fundamentally capitalistic. The thing is, people just agree to pay 50-70% taxes (this rate depends on your income). This money then goes to funding welfare programmes and suchlike. The system only works when 85-90% of the population works.
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>>127813446
Why doesnt china couny exactly
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>Why do the high IQ ethnostates thrive?
>Why do close-knit systems thrive?
Is this your first time here boy?
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>>127800033

It doesn't really work. The only "success" is due to the fact that Scandinavian countries have very high ethnic solidarity. Socialism only works in an ethno-state.

Sweden for example is not a socialist country at all, rather it is better described as a capitalist-welfare-state.

It is a welfare state in the sense that taxes are incredibly high on individuals and that money is distributed to the people in the form of healthcare and benefits.

It is capitalist in the sense that it has a very low business tax rate and is generally a very favorable environment for businesses.

Sweden was most "socialist" in the 1970s, but economic problems forced them to open their economy and become capitalist, they only kept the welfare-state side of things.

The only reason why the Swedish "socialist welfare state" worked for so long was because of near-total ethnic unity, the income tax rate on individuals was 40%-60%, but...

...MOST SWEDISH INVIVIDUALS RECEIVED UP TO 85% OF THEIR TAX MONEY BACK....

It was a welfare-state in a country where everyone was mostly prosperous and nobody really needed a welfare state to begin with.

Swedish "socialism" worked because all Swedish people worked hard to pay into it, there were relatively few Swedish people who did not contribute to the system, and so all Swedes benefited.

Now that millions of religion of peace immigrants have arrived, the true failure of the Swedish welfare state will become clear. Now there are tons of people who don't really contribute anything of value to the economy but simply leech off the government and the hard work of industrious Swedes.
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>>127805011
who is this guy and why does he look like a brick
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>>127800512

this
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>>127808758
>mudslime children waving german flags
i call fakenews
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>>127800033
Look what it lead to, proving once again that it doesnt work in the long term
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>>127803143
i need to emigrate and pursue my dream of becoming a NEET
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>>127800033
It doesn't.
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>>127800033
No niggers and jews.
They are like locusts and cause destruction everywhere they go.
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>>127800033
>small homogeneous European nation

maybe this has something to do with it?

it's so funny to see how quickly they are destroyed when they let jews and niggers in.
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>>127800033
high taxes isn't socialism
economies work fine until the state ceases the means of production
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>>127818017
When I went on vacation to Norway I sped literally every time I was on a highway from Gardermoen aiport to Nord-Trondelag. Not one cop even glanced towards the car we rented.
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>>127808260
I'd very much like to have this image translated. Do you know it's sauce?
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it works because we're rich and there's only 6 million of us. there are more people living in new york city than in norway.
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>>127822241
ULTRARAREFLAG
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>>127801093
I'd pay actual money to see that
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>>127800033
Because it's not socialism you idiot.
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>>127800033
They don't have socialism, you retarded obese fuck.
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>>127800033
>Socialism work
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>>127823589
You can't fix American stupidity. It's like cancer.
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It honestly doesn't work anymore, the government is just pretending. It worked ok when we were 99% white, but already we are blacked to the extent that school results are in free-fall, hospitals are a mess, crime is rampant and the police can't handle it, the media is 100% covfefe, etc.
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>>127800033

I didn't read the thread, but I'm just here to say that I was born in Denmark, both of my parents are Danish, and when I developed stomach cancer, I had to go back to Denmark for treatment since we couldn't afford it here (I was 19 at the time, never paid taxes in Denmark, my parents couldn't afford the surgery plus follow up chemo, so they just sent me back home to Denmark)

I know this is entirely anecdotal, but Denmark has the best healthcare system on the entire planet, bar none, I wouldn't be alive at the age of 33 if it weren't for them.
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>>127800033
Works in Canada too senpai
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>>127800033
Socialism works until you run out of people's money. Look at Sweden for example:
>debt in 2016 reached 41.6% of Sweden GDP,
And now they're borrowing foreign money money to pay off for socialism, it won't last forever.
http://countryeconomy.com/national-debt/sweden
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt
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Who is this and why do I want to see her fucking a big black cock?
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>>127800346
USSR was a superpower because they were in constant war mode so everyone's incentive is to defeat the common enemy.
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>>127800033
By not actually being socialist.
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>>127800033

Tiny populations that are mostly made up of white people obviously.
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>Norway is overpopulated
Are you retarded Breivik anon?
What is northern Norway.
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>>127800190
explain pooland or all of eastern europe
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>>127800033
Scandinavian "socialism" is closer to Fascist Corporatism in terms of the labour market.
Workers organize in trade unions, the trade unions organize in a union of unions. Employers organize in industry associations, the industry associations organize in a union of industry associations.

These umbrella organizations work with the state in the three-party negotiations, laying out the general direction of the economy, wages and terms of employment. Apart from the few points that become law (mandatory safety equipment, ban on child labour, ect.), these agreements are just a default. Specific unions can negotiate deviations from the national norm with their respective employer association. Individual employees can negotiate personal agreements with their employer.

This create a cohesive and rich economy that can be used to fund socialist government programs.
Also, you need white people. You can't have anything like this without white people. It is breaking apart because of the flood of non-whites.
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>>127802135
This.
They have huge funds that are state owned, but they operate in the market like any other actor.
Claiming it's socialist is a falsehood and should be called out if done to use a pro argument for actual socialism (like Venezuela).
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>Relativ small population
>Not real socialism
>Homogeneous population (degrading)
>Small government (relatively)

However, we are taxed out of our ass and there is a clear split of classes: Academics, Workers social losers(welfare).

Also Denmark seriously needs drive! We are the country in all of Europe with the lowest % of entrepreneurs. It's pretty stagnant and we are socially encouraged to stay that way with Jante Law and what not. If Denmark had the spirit of the US we would be the best country in the fucking world!
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>>127819731
>I've seen these "9/10s" my whole life and im hungering for something else by now
This kind of thinking is dangerous for your Society if you want to be exclusively white. The moment you look for another race and bring them home. It'll start an epidemic of race mixing.
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>>127800033
because tiny country has unlimited petrobudget, as soon they lost oil sources his future won't be so bright
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>>127802091
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>>127828864

>Also, you need white people. You can't have anything like this without white people. It is breaking apart because of the flood of non-whites.
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>>127829472
That's only Norway.
And they've invested their oil money in a government fund so they'll be fine for a while
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>>127829385
That is a major "problem" on The Faroe Island. People need to mix there because of inbreeding seeing as the population isn't even 50k. Many have a fatal blood/heart mutation resulting is sudden and immediate death at any given moment. There is a great influx of Asian brides.
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>>127821385

>Now that millions of religion of peace immigrants have arrived, the true failure of the Swedish welfare state will become clear. Now there are tons of people who don't really contribute anything of value to the economy but simply leech off the government and the hard work of industrious Swedes.
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>>127829759
How about you fuckers get in there and impregnate the women instead.? Men getting asian brides will just drive women to other places. Like the muslim part of your country perhaps?
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>>127829932
The Faroe Islands is Denmark. Of course the women are going other places when they are your literal cousin.
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It doesn't
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>>127829932
But I get ya'. The men getting Asian brides are looked down upon. They are encouraged to find a nice white danish girl from the mainland but they don't want to move because of idiocy and short term thinking. Read: The Faroe Island = Redneck Denmark.
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>>127801777
Because the ultimate redpill is that socialism will only work if it happens slowly and peacefully.
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>>127800033
Sweden has never had socialism,
We have lower corporate tax than USA.
It's just our income tax that rapes us.
The capitalism came before the welfare here and our work ethic combined with the highest trust towards each other made it easy to work and less conflict.

Now that trust is biting us in the ass.
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The only socialism we've had in Sweden is culturally speaking, and that we are starting to see the terrible effects of now.
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>>127831688
Cultural Marxism has been the rule since Olof Palme.
Look at Tage Erlander, he would be too "racist" for SD nowadays.
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>>127832018
Forgot pic
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>>127800900
Hahaha lol danes have no refuges....
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>>127800900
>Denmark dosen't have immigration
Denmark is literally nothing but poor Swedes working at McDonalds and as waiters, Jute yokels and t*rks.
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>>127800033
It doesn't, and when they run out of money for the Africans an Muslims,they will kill all of the Scandinavians. Same goes for Europe.
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>>127801504
burns coal....or steams rice?
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>>127832434
are you fucking blind? thats not the same girl
still disgusting though
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>>127800033
Master race.
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>>127832497
fuck wrong picture
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>>127800033

A small, homogeneous and wealthy populous.
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>>127832661
I bet you're a small dicked manlet ugly asian living vicarously through the pictures you post.
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Because niggers
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>>127832737
how do you live vicariously through a picture

i bet you're a small dicked manlet living vicariously through your own shittalking

also i'm just posting proof for the jew that thinks shes a coal burner
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>>127832661
>Girl takes picture with dude at a club
>Slut REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>127832852
>how do you live vicariously through a picture
When you're a small dicked asian manlet virgin who validates his existence by comforting himself that other asians fuck white women, to the point on saving on your computer pictures of asian male/white woman couples.
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>>127832661
arr rook same
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>>127833002
that's definitely not how you do that

you sound mad though like you're a small dicked asian manlet or something
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>>127801777
Because murricah helped make western germany successful and soviet trained the east of all resources.

A rich capitalist country will always do a fuckton better than a poor one.
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>>127800033

Anything works with a high concentration of rich, white people. They only turned into welfare states after amassing their wealth through near-unfettered capitalism.

And even with that, their growth has slowed since then and their societies are being destroyed culturally.

Only capitalism allows poor, corrupt countries to grow fast and catch up. With socialism and a non-top 10 country you get Greece, Venezuela, USSR.
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>>127805011
I bet she's been blacked.
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>>127832852
He looks better than her, she's a 5
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>>127833164
Ok, how do you explain that the Soviet Union was still piss poor then (if not because of communism).
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>>127800033
It doesnt.
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>>127815582

This leaf is right, you know:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEP0294BhLI
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>>127832434
Steam the rice, pay the price?
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>>127802091
Stop slandering voe
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>>127800033
The image is of a Norwegian girl. He government in Norway is conservative not socialist
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>>127833333
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>>127801777
Sure, institutions matter. In the examples you gave, the institutions were large and centralized, and imposed by fiat from a dictator. Socialism has never worked with charismatic leaders and it's easy to see why, the idea of one person who's above the rest is anathema to the idea of socialism.

socialism works when people have a lot of control over their government. In the places where it works well, people pay a lot in taxes, but most of those taxes go to the municipalities and everyone spends a lot of time in council meetings arguing over how the funds will be spent.
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>>127800033
It doesn't. You just think it does because you've never had to deal with it.
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>>127800033
It doesn't. Sweden prospered in spite of socialism, not thanks to it. Only thing that has kept the scandinavian countries together and working until now is that we've had some of the best work ethics and some of the smartest and most industrious people, but the socialists don't like them very much so a lot of them have left or been discouraged. Our universities are destroyed, not nearly destroyed, I mean completely, at the hand of socialists. Same with media, the police, the military, the economy, the back bone of the people, more or less everything is infected. The similarities to cancer are striking.

Worst of all, they managed to make being socialist/leftist synonymous with being good and decent
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>>127803591
Hitler meant unrestrained capitalism like the Rothschilds making Britain attack the Boers for their gold. Nazi Germany was capitalist with private property and private trade.
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>>127800033
[spoiler]It doesn't[/spoiler]
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because we actually want it
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>>127800346
>communism/socialism made the USSR a fucking superpower
nice meme

>the people are quality
slavs are literally the niggers of yurop
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>>127800190
Compare China w/ a market-ish economy and China w/ a planned economy
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>>127800033
Petrol money
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>>127838332
mericuck talking about niggers
>lol
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>>127800033
Because they don't pay defense budgets
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>>127800033
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>>127838104
Stop posting jews.
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>>127802091
delet
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>>127838516
>potato nigger
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>>127800033
It doesn't anymore. All services are deteriorating, native populations are shrinking, state debt is increasing, average happiness is decreasing, income inequality is increasing etc. etc. etc. It might have worked once; when everyone was white, when there still were children, and when healthcare wasn't advanced enough to bankrupt the whole system.
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>>127838519
/thread
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>>127800033
That "socialism" meme. Scandinavian countries are NOT socialist! They are fucking NOT!
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>>127800033
>less than 10 mil people each country
>work ethics are high so only the worst neet doesn't have steady income
>everyone pays their taxes
>minimal corruption
>everyone's white (problems only started after mass immigration)

Downside is that Nordics are very much nanny states.
For example... in Finland, you can't even have visible cigarettes or smoking equipment in stores. You have to know the brand you're gonna buy beforehand and ask for it from the cashier without even seeing the selection. It's illegal for cashiers to ask "is this it?" while showing it.
Some stores do it differently. Pic related is a machine that plops out a pack of cigs through a tube. It used to have brands and pictures for the package on each button, but new laws made it so that you have to ask for the number from the cashier and it's also different in every store.
I don't even smoke and this really pisses me off about Finland.
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>>127837795

You need a better understanding of the word "capitalism."

State piracy has nothing to do with free trade
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>>127828830
YOU ARE RIGHT, THE JEWS ARE KEEPING THE WHITE MEN DOWN WE HAVE TO PURGE THEM OUT
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>>127800033
>work

How many Scandinavian products do you own?
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>>127801777
>any form of government works in white countries
>counter-arguments: Slavs and Koreans
Use a proxy, stop showing my flag
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>>127840905
>I don't even smoke and this really pisses me off about Finland.
This. It only makes the whole process slower. Another fucked up law is the alcohol sale time restriction. How retarded do you have to be to come up with this insanity?
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The right kind of genes?
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>>127842090
My problem is a little selfish though.
If they're pushing anti-alcohol and anti-cig laws this hard, weed will never be legolized.
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Molydude had a decent talk with a swedish guy about the subject. Basically, our welfare states worked out at first because of a homogenous society with great work ethics. Being on welfare was not really sociably acceptable. But over generations the welfare state changes how people think and behave, and now it's more acceptable to leech off the system. Bringing in people with shit work ethic doesn't help either of course.

I think our politicians are realizing that taxes need to be reduced. Our economic growth is a bit of a joke compared to e.g. USA. Our government just released their plans to cut income taxes at both ends, as well as for businesses I believe. They will of course not cut them nearly enough, but it's a start I guess.
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>>127800033
its because its an unofficial ethnno-state with a nationalist-socialist take civil policy
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>>127833462
the state was poor, but some (((soviets))) went superrich
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It works in Australia too.
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