Feminism

Because men and women aren't equal. Is this a trick question?

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>DERAILED
Anyone know this girls name

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>>127788499
Equality is retarded.

>>127788620
I want to put my penis in her and never pull out.

>>127788499
just because a group claims to stand for something doesn't mean it does

nearly all liberation movements end up being front for getting large amounts of naive people to comply with the wishes of their superiors behind the scenes.

feminism's main goal is to make things that are morally reprehensible seem acceptable when viewed through the lens of giving women equality, namely abortion

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>>127788669
verbal is more g-loaded than math, wang chung

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>>127788499
>argue against feminism

You don't bother. The people who are into it have 3 problems.

1. They are too stupid to make sophisticated arguments, and they are to stupid to understand high level philosophy and political ideology.

2. They have no interest in listening to you, and will not under any circumstance change their mind. They are only trying to prove their own agenda to be true. They are not interested at all in introspection and critique of themselves.

3. As postmodernists, they don't believe in dialogue with people they disagree with. They just try to stop you from speaking your views.

>>127788620
No, but I do remember there is a whole set of her fucking her bf which is pretty nice.

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>>127788499
obvious troll is obvious

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>>127788620
>tfw my first gf had the same face and I treated her poorly by being an insecure sad cunt and every woman since has been but a pale cold shadow of my first love I'll never get back and now I have to see this fucking face being memed at me which reminds me of my failure

>>127788800
how romantic
>>127788851
if you really don't think that feminism is fighting for equal treatment of men and women, i think you're probably just hung-up on the apparently lopsided naming of the movement

Feminist want more for women than they deserve, and they want less for men than men deserve.

Equality can't exist.

>>127788499
because 3rd wave feminism took it to a new level that only divides people and blames men for all oppression instead of capitalism

>>127788499
Because feminism doesnt have exclusivity for equality
I reject your female superiority movement

>>127788499
Short answer, everything in life goes better if women are below men. With women out of the workplace, employers would be forced to pay a single man enough to support a family.
Women can settle down and make a family because they don't need to work, and families would be far more stable because women wouldn't be raised with "muh independence" in mind.

Also, the current feminist movement is not in line with the definition of feminism.

>>127789057
1. i consider myself well-verse in philosophy insofar as an autodidact trained in a non-humanities field can be

2. i'm all ears to any arguments you can present in opposition to the sentiment that men and women ought to be treated equally

3. is this not dialogue?

Your post is a big strawman

woman here. women's suffrage was a mistake.

>>127788620

Muh Waifu

>>127788499
>Do "anti-feminists" really not want that?

Yep
The dishonest Left will naturally pretend I want to chain women to the kitchen stove. That's not true. I just want more money than my female colleagues, because women have it easy.

>>127789168
:3c

>>127789494
>woman here
...good one

>>127788499
Read Genesis more

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>>127789057
Wait
WHAT POST POST POST
>>127789138
We've all fucked up now anon.

>>127788499

because equality is already accomplished

>>127789399
>everything in life goes better if women are below men
except, of course, women's lives. but if you don't care about women's quality of life I guess that wouldn't matter to you
>Women can settle down and make a family
this is not the sole purpose of women and it is incredibly insensitive to suggest so

>>127789168
google margaret sangers negro program

margaret sanger (who feminists still idealize as a leader in the birth control movement) was trying to push birth control on black people to decrease their numbers and wrote it off as a feminist issue


besides, one needs to define the terms of equality as well, take the wage gap for example: even those who want men and women to be paid the same will admit that, when placed in similar circumstances, men and women make the same, it's only that women decide to raise families more often (which is their right as equal memebers of society)

so why keep pushing to change the gap? simple, because the vision of "equality" that feminists have puts our biololgical imperative to breed as a secondary function of our existence

tl;dr the equality feminists seek requires changing humanity fundamentally, I am opposed to fundamentally altering humanity for temporal politcal needs

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>>127789609
*listen to genesis more

name one right that men have but women do not in western civilization

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>>127789430
If modern feminism was just about men and women being treated equally I'd be for it.

But it's not. It's a neomarxist, postmodernist movement that has little to do with women's rights and much more to do with subverting western civilization.

>>127789138
we're all inhabiting our own personal slice of hell on Earth, I feel your pain. my current bf's cock is literally half or less massive than my ex and i havnt experienced orgasm during intercourse even 1 single time with him. He has more money but that is to be expected when my ex was a negro... lol

>>127789662
>this is not the sole purpose of women and it is incredibly insensitive to suggest so

it is the sole purpose of humanity to procreate, it seems you (and most feminists) are just upset that women have a role in that and are not allowed to just srew whatever they want without consequences

>>127788499
Equality is a myth/lie.

>>127788499
>It literally just means equality between women and men.
It used to but now since we have it, it now means matriarchy.

>>127789808
Oy vey

>>127789662
Women get to have romance, free time, and a choice in all the matters that feminists debate today (abortion, children, etc;)
I'm not a woman, but that sounds better than how most women live today.

>>127789662
Women live far more comfortable lives than men. The least they can do is fulfill their social duty.

>>127788499
>How can you seriously argue against vehicleism? It literally just means equality between men and the cars they own. Do "anti-vehicleists" really not want that?

>>127788620
Boxxy

>>127790092
Kys

>>127790066
your implication that women are simply mechanical implements is not appreciated

men and women are not equal, idiot

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>>127788499

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfQKWXMZtnU#t=1m48s

>>127789887
>subverting western civilization.
care to explain why you think so? everyone in this thread seems to be casting these broad aspersions that don't actually make a solid point. categorical dismissals of modes of thought without accompanying reasoning don't really accomplish anything in discourse

>>127789057

>No, but I do remember there is a whole set of her fucking her bf which is pretty nice.

And you dont post link because?

>>127789804
history has invariably altered the fundamental nature of humanity, it's called progress.

who are you to say that everything, every detail and habit of modern man is perfect as it is? if people are expressing genuine discomfort and dissatisfaction with their relationship to society who are you to say that they're wrong?

>>127788499
>It literally just means equality between women and men. Do "anti-feminists" really not want that?


Oh, fucking piss off!
No, that is not what "feminism" nowaday is.
Shut your damn mouth, regardless if you are a dumb woman or dumb man.
Is that the equality you want, cick?
See? I made the terms "cunt" and "dick" gender-neutral by combining them!
OO, berry good.

The world under 3rd wave """"femmensesem""""" would be a fucking joke.

>>127789887
Uh, no. It's about secret moustaches and tweezing your nipples. Try reading a book once in your life you fucking bigot.

>>127788499
there is no right or wrong answer to human rights, some believe it is an obvious answer, and some believe that it goes against 'nature'. thats why we argue it.

>>127789956
Thanks for the declaration you fucking heathen.

>>127788499
I used to think so as well, then I saw feminism in action. Giving women the right to vote was a fucking mistake

>>127789946
>Confirmed coal burner

/thread

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>>127789804
>margaret sanger (who feminists still idealize as a leader in the birth control movement) was trying to push birth control on black people to decrease their numbers and wrote it off as a feminist issue

Decreasing the literal amount of rape in society should be seen as a good thing desu senpai

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>>127788669
DAMN. Atleast I'm smarter than a black!

>>127790706
>history has invariably altered the fundamental nature of humanity, it's called progress.

exatly, HISTORY, not one group of people who all believe the same thing

>who are you to say that everything, every detail and habit of modern man is perfect as it is?

I am not, I'm only saying that endlessly trying to pull it apart in the name of some utopia that doesn't exist is dangerous

>if people are expressing genuine discomfort and dissatisfaction with their relationship to society who are you to say that they're wrong?

they are allowed to express themselves, and i encourage it, as you can see i like discussing these things, as far as the things feminists are frequently advocating in favor of, they all seem to revolve around sexual liberation, and in a country where I can access hardcore porn on a device i keep in my pocket, I couldn't give less of a shit about peoples need for sexual liberation

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>>127788499
Feminism does not have a monopoly on "gender equality" and in fact has a poor track record of it. Whether its lobbying against a change ti parental custody laws, or genital mutilation laws, feminism frequently disregards or agitates the real issues men face in society.

We cannot expect feminism to look at mens issues fairly anyway. Feminism teaches that men are the oppressor and women always the victim.
> Imagine asking malcolm x to be concerned about downtrodden white people in the name of "equality"
Its just not going to happen.

If you really want gender equality, then just say thats what you want. Dont call it feminism, because youre misrepresenting feminism and showing clearly you havent read feminist literature.

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>>127790321
>your implication that women are simply mechanical implements is not appreciated

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>>127788499
Equality is a myth.
Feminism has done nothing but make society worse. And modern feminism is nothing but jewish marxism under a new label.

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>>127790586
I don't have a link to it. It 100% exists though and it was pretty great.

>>127790477
You really should lurk more, but I'll humor you.
If you put together all the different elements of modern feminist thought they point to the same thing subversion of western civ and the eventual revolt against it.

They practice critical theory, they believe all social structures should be questioned and destroyed.

Also they think that western civ is the evil oppresive tool of the patriarchy to oppress women and POC.

Their whole orientation is towards destroying western civilization. They are not entirely concious of it but en masse their aim becomes clear.

>>127791050

no shit, but if you're answering to stopping crime is to stop people in criminal areas from breeding you can see how that might be a little much, no?

I mean you wouldn't be a fan of people pushing abortions on white women because they thought there were too many white people right?

>>127788499
Feminism has always been the radicalization of women for nefarious purposes.

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>>127788499
it's not about equality, and men and women aren't equal

also feminism leads to below replacement fertility rates. we're literally dying out due to it

>>127790477
Look where you are. You're trying to have an argument with people who have a deeper understanding of the history of the movement and its true goals than you do. We've studied this stuff extensively, you seem to think were just ignorant idiots who don't get it. You're the ignorant one. You're like a child asking an adult to explain something to them that goes way over their heads. One thred isn't enough, it takes years of research and lurking to fully understand what's going on. Put in the effort if you want to be take seriously.

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Feminists never wanted equality, because equality implies equal responsibilities as well as equal privileges. Suffragettes never asked to be drafted into the trenches of WW1; they wanted the right to vote and no increase in duty to their countries. Feminism = equality is always a bullshit argument, but deep down you already knew that. I could go on but I've already wasted more time proving you wrong than you deserve.

>>127789662
Actually it seems to be better for women's lives honestly:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=gddjMm3Q3l0

Also biologically and evolutionarily speaking, that is literally the entire purpose of women: To make children. Just like the male's entire purpose is to protect and provide for his partner and their offspring. We obviously have more opportunities and responsibilities in modern society but these are the basic roles which must remain at the bedrock of it all for the good of everyone.

>>127791892
>agree with me without my having provided any reason to agree with you

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>>127791928
All you need to do.
If some bitch I know starts up, I'll just go home, print this fucking image out, and mail it to her.

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>>127788499
sage we are being raided

>>127792225
hey faggot, I get that this is some shitty b8 but the least you could do is LARP properly so I can hone my arguments

>>127789057

you're a fucking liar.

>>127792317
>I hate 4chin ever since those celebrity hacks.

>"Hey guys, I'm a drooling retard who thinks famous people with tons of money need to be defended when they save pictures of their cunts on their phones and get them leaked like dumbasses!"

>>127792317
also, why censor names?

>>127792317
>there will be daily threads about how misoginy is bad
>wtf I love shills now
I'm unironically excited about bait now

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>>127792317
Laughing my ass off reading how they think this will accomplish anything asides those 'raiders' coming her and having their fee-fee's hurt. LOL

>>127789138
Hahaha get fucked you loser. My gf's first boyfriend was just like you. He cheated on her constantly and treated her with no respect.

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>>127792225
That's not what I said at all. It's not my job to convince you of anything or make an argument. You can't just go from being a brainwashed feminist pawn to the JQ over night. This shit takes time. If you truly want to understand us and our positions, put in the same time in effort we put into understanding you and your positions. Lurk moar and study history. Start with something like the Frankfurt school.
>>127791226
Also I posted this. The results of doubling the workforce and still be felt to this day. Now a (((stranger))) is rasing the children of the west while both parents are chained to wageslavery to paid of their (((student loans)))

>>127791273
>>127791273
It's your job to find it now.
You can't leave us.
Find it and report back.

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>>127788499
we have equal but seperate roles, women who do not clean cook and raise kids are equal to a man who wont work to provide. you cant just bend these roles tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMGZtkMS3sQ

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>>127792589
>>127794029
I'm actually looking for it now. Not having much luck though. I remember it for sure. She's in her bed with her boyfriend and she sucks his dick and they fuck. I'm looking

>>127788499
Men have the short end of the stick now (in the eyes of the law) but feminists still want more. It's become an excuse to bitch about how your upper middle class life is so hard and to demand handouts.

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>>127788499
>How can you seriously argue against Islam? It literally just means submission to god the creator. Do "non-Muslims" really not want that?

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>>127794320
I found the set I was thinking of, I'm not as confident now that it is the same chick.

When I originally saw this it was supposed to be the same chick and that picture was part of the set, and there is at least one dude on reddit who claims it's the same chick.

http://scene-porn.com/guitar-playing-emo-teen-gets-fucked/

https://www.reddit.com/r/RealGirls/comments/4vhru3/working_on_her_tan/d5ykxgp/

>>127788499
>How can you seriously argue against Christianity? It literally just means loving God. Do "non-Christians" really not want that?

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>>127788499
>How can you seriously argue against Communism? It literally just means economic fairness. Do "anti-Communists" really not want that?

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>>127794089
HI there friend.

Could you tell me more about the lord and savoir KEK today? I am very interested.

>>127795284

not her, different tits and your girl has moles on her tits, mine doesn't.

also my unsourcedfu wouldn't take blowjob pics, she's pure.

...

>>127795284
Dang too good to be true, FYI original girl pic is at least 10 years old.

>>127788499
women generally are bad at making complex political decisions, men are also on a bell curve and youre either retarded or smart, only a few avg. solution: IQ tests or intelligence test before allowing vote

>>127788499
I'm a feminist in the actual, original sense of the word. Third wave "feminism" is fucking cancer and doesn't want anything close to equality.

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>>127788499
Look up 'Milo Yiannopoulos Feminism'

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>>127797348
>at least 10 years old.

it's feels like yesterday when i saved that pic from /b/.
that picture has had "SOURCE" screamed at for a decade, if i ever found a magic lamp i would use one wish just to know who she is and what she is doing now.

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Give them an inch and they take a mile.

>>127788499
>It literally just means equality between women and men.
no it doesn't and it never did. It's always been about female supremacist ideology. When presented with the opportunity to put in law via the ERA the feminists at the time opposed it because it meant actual equality of opportunity.

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>>127788499

Feminism has destroyed Planets before.

Made multiple KB's talking about it(Feminism), read them:

http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/subject/knowledge%20bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/

Feminism exists to make sure corperate world can always be an employers market. Too many workers and not enough jobs means they pay less to each worker.
Men have to work or they get divorced.
If they are deadbeat dads, they can go to jail.
Feminism is here to stay until the world collapses upon it's own weight.

>>127788499
equality between both women and men = fighting for rights for both women and men

if modern day feminism really was about equality, groups like the MRA wouldn't exist because they would be feminists.

>>127788499

Men and women aren't equal

>>127788499

In 99.999% of all successful civilizations, women are property, initially of their father and eventually transferred to their husband at marriage.

>>127788800
Now thats love!

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>>127788499
Personally, I hate "feminists". Not because I don't believe in equality, but because the ones I see are always pushing for more and more advantages. Women have upsides in things like lesser prison sentences, easier time getting sex, lowered requirements for things (IE military and other)... but all I ever hear about is "muh male privilege" and "Why it's horrible for males to dominate X high paying field from a bunch of genders studies majors who could have chosen to go into that field to "balance the gap" had they chosen to.

I don't think there is anything wrong with actual feminism, just that there is something wrong with the abomination that (((they))) have created.

>>127788499
This is an honest response. The truth about women is that they secretly, deep down are purely sexual beings. They cannot process men in any other way than his strength and his prowess.

The truth is that WE HAVE GIVEN YOU ALL EQUAL RIGHTS. We have already shown you the door to a successful Western man's mentality and method. The fact that you still cannot see how to climb the ladder the way men have, shows that women are hung up on some limitation on how they see men. And indeed many cannot think outside of a man's status.

That is why feminism is looked down upon. Because it gives women a glass ceiling on what they can ask for. You don't want success. You want to be us.

If we didn't have television constantly showing women that you need good looks and a smoking body to win over an real alpha, it would be different. So not only do you not really know what you want, but you've been raised in a toxic environment meant to make you feel like a fucking loser. Do you not? You're being worked against your own will.

Sort of rambling at this point.

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>>127798367
hmmm

How far will women have degenerated after another 100 years?

>>127788499
Men and women have been equal under the law for a long time.

Modern feminism is female superiority.

>>127799916
if feminism didnt exist youd have jews running the local grocery store

>>127788499
Because men and women aren't equal. If you ever saw a naked woman you'd know that.

>>127802638
You don't necessarily just want to be us, you want us trapped, wrapped around your finger so that we bend our knees to you. So you constantly test men to see what they're made of by telling him to do things for you, but the problem is that once you see a man who DOES feel the need to meet your every demand, you intrinsically loathe him, because you know he is weak. You know that a man who wipes your fucking ass is a degenerate man. So you climb the ladder.

You are genetically dispositioned to be perpetually unhappy and dissatisfied, and feminism gives you an outlet for your absolutely destructive and disregarding behavior. It doesn't solve the "inequality" it entrenches it even deeper.

The secret to real equality is not in us but in you. So stop fucking saying it's our fault you're not happy as a woman.

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>We mutilated your dick without consequence, but saying the wrong thing to a 14 year old girl is a felony.

It's a social contract bro.
Quit being a misogynist.

>>127788800
Every woman I've ever been with has always tried to keep me inside her either before climax come close or (if they're ob the pill) after ive nutted in them. You're not alone desu, they want that too

>>127788620
Coalburner

She has been blacked numerous and multiple times.

>>127788499

Feminism is a folly.

It's a branch of authoritarian tyrants attempting to manipulate men through their other half, which is women.

Many women have been compromised and sewn with a bad seed.

The only thing you can do right now is work for yourself, invest for yourself and love those who return love.

We are under attack, they whoever they are want full control because they are diseased with great sin.

>>127788499
yep.

They had equality.

Then they got the vote.

Then they got an edge.

Then they got the lot of it and everything that came before.

>>127788499
Germany, a feminist society, has a fertility rate of 1.4

Afghanistan, a non-feminist society, has a fertility rate of 5.2

>>127789662
Enjoy deluding yourself from reality

>>127789662
the sole purpose of a woman is to breed.

If there was an easier way to produce offspring in the future, women would go extinct. If there was a way to genetically modify offspring in the future, all children would be inherently male and the entirety of 'feminism' would be a some genetic hack to essentially genetically trannify an already-male fetus to have a female body for the sole purpose of recreational sex, if not usurping laws of genes to write our own so that all people (males and trannified males) produce testosterone, though no one would guess the trannified males do based on classical interpretation of how testosterone affects appearance.

Without that, and as we are today, women brains do not operate properly and are not conducive to critical thinking or cooperation.

>>127788499
You fucks never seem to realize that "equality" is a meaningless term unless you modify it with a prepositional phrase indicating "equality of WHAT". So fucking tired of this lazy use of language... All that leftists do is use nebulous poorly defined terms because of the feels instead of actually defining their terms and explicitly state how the concept would be applied.

tl:dr
> It literally just means equality between women and men
EQUALITY OF FUCKING WHAT!!?!

>>127805340
>Canada chimes in with his cuck fantasies

color me surprised

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>>127808902
these people seem to think if they say "equality" enough times, estrogen will magically become as chemically viable as testosterone.

>>127795284
I hate you so much.

>>127788499
1. Feminists will always justify their actions by citing the dictionary definition, even if what they are doing is counter to that. That definition is not accurate
2. What does "equality" mean? Are you sure it's something you want?

>>127788499
>How can you seriously argue against feminism? It literally just means equality between women and men.
Found your problem. You actually believe their propaganda.

>>127788669
Not knowing verbal section is more closely related to IQ

>>127788499

Why do women deserve equality?

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>>127810037
But why is that so?

>>127810394
it should be self-evident by now anon...

>>127788499
1. Equal opportunity does not mean equal income.
2. There are fundamental biological differences that should be embraced. Pushing against your biology just causes emotional and culture issues that can't be solved. Men are naturally stronger and more durable than women in the workplace. They can do harder jobs for longer periods of time. Women are generally more caring and emotional, jobs like child care and nursing are better left to women. I just feel a female would make a better day care worker, and a male would make a better military science professor.
You are pushing against these genetic traits by attacking the Government, and in essence, creating a rift between biology and Government. You can replace Biology, so you end up with Trump and a castrated Government.

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>>127788620
MLKY!
MILKY

>>127788499
Men and women are different, they should be treated differently.

>>127810394
>>127810615

It's because men have lost their way to sin, which allows women to run rampant with sin.

>>127788499
Women are horrible people, they are not and never were equal to men

>>127788499
>How can you seriously argue against feminism?
By making an argument.

>It literally just means equality between women and men.
There's no such thing as equality even within the individual sex.

>Do "anti-feminists" really not want that?
We want lefties to smarten up and protest shit that actually matters and isn't used to keep them busy with anything but.

>>127805340
I'd dekaffinate her.

>>127788499
Stop posting this fucking copypasta, and all of you faggots quit replying to the obvious slide bait.

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>>127791050
>This dumb bitch is pretty
>but she does so much harm to this world that given the chance
>I'd smash her stupid fucking sjw face with a lead pipe over having consensual or non consensual sex with her.
>I'd then scream in German at her until she passed out from the pain & fear

>>127810394
They drown everything with their emotions.

Any choice/desision you have to make with your partner will be extremely difficult. Women dont think with the brain, but the heart. They dont rationalize with logic, with truth, but choose to act on what will appease their emotions at that given time. They arent interested in the best way to topple a problem. They dont forsee the outcome of the prospect as they don´t judge the context of the situation correctly.

You have been warned.