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Britain should join the USA

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It's in the UK's best interests to join the United States as a territory/state.

Pros for UK:
>Become a functioning and important part of the world's largest economy
>Gain free access to the world's largest consumer base
>Literally zero paperwork to move or visit anywhere in the USA
>Convert to one of the world's strongest currencies
>Your freedom would be completely guaranteed by the united states constitution (Free speech, right to bear arms, ect.)
>No more state run media like the BBC
>Your economy would literally only have room to grow as one of the poorest states in the union.
>No more unusual taxes (tv licenses)
>President Trump

There's literally almost no downsides, call your local politician and tell them about applying for statehood.
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>Your economy would literally only have room to grow as one of the poorest states in the union.
nigga u fo real
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>>127764507
>Britain should join the USA

We already did when you chopped off our bollocks in 1945
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We're too different. Even if both of us are from the same English cloth, U.S. is far too different for the U.K. and the U.K. is far too different from U.S.
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>>127764644
The united kingdom would be the second most poor state in the union.

Becoming a state with major trading potential, the only direction would be upward as far as your country's value would go.

>>127764721
Not our fault you started a war for no reason over plumbers instead of fucking up the soviets.
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>>127764507
>>Your economy would literally only have room to grow as one of the poorest states in the union.

UK gdp is higher than your wealthiest state - california. why aren't you checking those basic info before posting
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>>127764507
>nogs and Pakis can move and travel freely from one place to another
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>>127765025
>California
>Wealthy

Nigga what?
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>>127764507
USA should join the UK again. You are ours after all.
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So your corrupt government could flood us with nogs because we're not 'diverse enough'. Nahh. Britons will never be slaves to your system.
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>>127764507
You clearly know nothing at all about the brits, their government or their history.
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>>127765108
GDP do you speak it?
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>>127764507
I don't want those muslim worshipping teabaggers being able to freely enter my country. They dug their grave they can sit in it.
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>>127765236
It's not about GDP it's about living quality per area.

>>127765179
I'm sorry, which of our countries is currently being told to "deal with terrorism"?
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>>127764978
>Not our fault you started a war for no reason over plumbers instead of fucking up the soviets.

Please explain how we could possibly have fucked up the Germans, Soviets and Japan at the same time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Polish_military_alliance#Polish-British_common_defence_pact
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>>127764507
>>Your freedom would be completely guaranteed by the united states constitution (Free speech, right to bear arms, ect.)
the US constitution is just a copy of the British bill of rights 1689 and we ditched that centuries ago.

come back to the UK as a colony or piss off. we aren't giving 45% of your population the right to come here which is non-white.
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>>127765289
meanwhile in reality
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I would prefer we remain separate nations. Though, I would have no problem with the United States having closer ties with the U.K. by joining the Commonwealth.
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>>127764507
Only if we can have South America back.
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>>127765438
By not starting a war with the germans and the japanese because "muh facism" you dolt.

>>127765495
Our government's purpose is to protect our people's freedom. Yours is to collect your people's taxes.

Come back to me when your nation doesn't have heinous german teir "hate speech" laws that stop you from speaking your mind.
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>>127765814
Go ahead, it's all trash down there anyways.
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>>127764978
>The united kingdom would be the second most poor state in the union
Proof per capita.
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No thanks, I'd engage in guerrilla warfare and fight to the death before that happened
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>>127765912
https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2014/08/25/britain-is-poorer-than-any-us-state-yes-even-mississippi/#54b5ba7d35ef
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>>127764507
What's in it for us? Bongs are going to buy more of our shit? Or what? I feel we are just going to get more immigrants.
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>>127765828
>Come back to me when your nation doesn't have heinous german teir "hate speech" laws that stop you from speaking your mind.

You've had people arrested and sacked for tweets for fuck sake
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>>127765828
Lmaoing @ ur life.
You're 54% white with a federal and state system that is being conquered by non-whites. On your supreme court, your party leaders, your senators, even your fucking president. When do these so-called nation building "rights" (that we dumped in the 1800s) come into play in your country? 91% white vs 54%.

As for ""German tier hate speech laws", you'll find as many examples of Brits prosecuted for "hate speech" as you will in America.
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>>127764507
>51st state
>Shows borders of UK
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>>127766031
Why aren't you doing it now to the useless politicians who sold you to the endless beurocracy that is the EU then?

>>127766184
Amazing port to europe and asia. Alright imports and decent consumer base.
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>>127765155
I am in full support of a unification of the anglosphere and a reemergence of the English Empire.

This has been my political wet dream since I was young.
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>>127764507

What about us? What if germany wants to be part of the united states of america?
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>>127764507
My God this sounds promising. But I like the Queen too much, and as if losing the American colony wasn't defeat enough, it'd be a cuck move to then join it years later as one of the poorest states.
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>>127766419
Soon.
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>>127766385
We voted to leave didn't you know?
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>>127766366
You'd probably end up getting split into your nation's components into seperate states over time anyways.

>>127766468
No, fuck off. We'd take Japan first before you lazy shits.
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>>127766468
Piss off. Anglosphere only.
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Americans should be range banned tbqh
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Fine print: American politicians can't have titles of nobility
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>>127766547
Stop teasing me.

RULE BRITANNIA.
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>>127766625
And you're doing a shit job of it as well.
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>>127766742
Rule Britannia friend.
Here's an Anglo stealing a French flag.
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>>127764507
Anglo Union would be better. However we and the other English speaking nations would be cucked by you and Canada due to economics and sjw's
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>>127766737
The english monarchy doesn't even fucking do anything anyways.

Removing them all together from power would only be the final nail in an already built coffin.
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>>127766938
Don't worry, the only part of canada we'd take is alberta.
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>OP is a Californian
WOW THIS IS SO SHOCKING
WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT A CALIFORNIAN WOULD HAVE MADE SUCH A SHIT THREAD
AND WOULD BE SO IGNORANT OF HISTORY, CULTURE, AND THE WORLD IN GENERAL
KILL YOURSELF, IDIOT.
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>>127766914
You're the best.

I fly the St George Cross with pride for my heritage. Remember there are plenty of Americans with English heritage who wish to unite with our mother country.
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>>127767074
I didn't ask to be born in this horrible state you faggot.

Count yourself lucky you were born where you are, nigger.
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>>127767211
Go pick up a fucking history book. It's evident you know nothing of England.
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>>127766096
>Working based on average income
>no specification on if it's post or pre tax
Judging how it says Alabama is supposed to have a higher income it would be post tax.
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Sure you want to take another multicultural bullet Americans? The Al-Britannistan island will basically become a no-go zone in 20 years
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>>127764507
i love every british persons reaction to this ever
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>>127767170
That's pretty damn great anon. Glad to see Anglo culture and pride is still prevalent in parts of the US. You certainly have the most to be proud of as Americans.
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>>127764507
You'd have to accept the Queen as head of state, otherwise I'd rather starve. Agree to that and we can talk. I'm glad you agree that American independence was a mistake.
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>>127767388
daily reminder
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>>127764721
hey what does bollocks mean , does it mean balls or buttocks
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>>127767467
Not if we, as anglos, band together and remove kebab
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>>127764507
All memes aside, I wouldn't mind being annexed by the burgers. At least we'd be ruled by fellow whites, as opposed to drowning in a sea of niggers, pakis and pajeets. We'd also have guns and REAL freedom of speech. Other than the initial humiliation of being ruled by our former colony, I honestly can't see the problem. Call me a traitor all you want, I don't care. This country is slowly dying and desperate times call for desperate measures.
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>>127766914
>Anglo
Scots Greys lad.
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>>127766948
That's not how you convince England. The Monarchy is a vital aspect of culture and tradition and it is a bad idea to dismantle it for that reason alone. That said, the English national and cultural identity is best protected now by dismantling it before it can be infiltrated by Islam or niggers.

"Protect British Identity, End the Monarchy before it's Blacked." There's your appeal.

Also, welcome home to the U.S.A., auld Albion. You ready to kick out some (((asian youths)))?
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>>127767467
this is so depressing
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>>127767735
tell me my Brtain Friend . what does bollocks mean really? i mean how can you use a bollocks
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>>127767467
Eh, British demographics are pretty contained and the political situation is changing extremely fast as we witness this terror campaign in real-time. You can't speak for 5 years, much less 20 years.
>>127767735
Anglos by now, surely.
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>>127767730
Don't worry, the humiliation probably wont even be that bad other than on the fourth of july.
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>>127764507
I'd be down for this. Do we get to conceal carry, though?
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>>127767570
I agree. I just wish more ethnic English people in the US would take pride in their heritage. The Irish, Germans, Italians, and Polish do. But English Americans just seem to look at themselves as the vanilla flavor of the country. Feels bad man.
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>>127764507
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>>127767882
>how can you use a bollocks
Spread it wide and your mind will follow.
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>>127764507
>It's in the UK's best interests to join the United States as a territory/state

I'd rather cut my bollocks off lad.


B
O
N
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
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>>127767848
You couldn't keep the British foundation of law of almost any part of legal basis from the last 1000 years if you rid us of the monarchy. The Crown as an institution is central to all other institutions and you'd also be upsetting the balance of countries like Canada, Australia and New Zealand who share a Head of State who's powers are constitutionally intertwined into there own foundations.
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>>127765655
>London 60% white
What? Its like 34% by now probably?
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>>127767911
If you vote for it yeah sure.

Pretty soon we might even have cross state cc, so that would be a cool thing for you guys.

>>127768019
This guy's just a pussy. They come from everywhere.
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>>127768106
No, London is still 60% white. It's 45% white British.
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Forgot this pic.
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>>127764507
>>Literally zero paperwork to move or visit anywhere in the USA

Muslims and africans
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>>127768192
Is there any sources to back this up?
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>>127764507
>Britain should join the USA

There should be a new alliance of Anglo-sphere nations. UK, USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand (with an option for Ireland to join if they leave the EU).
Open borders, complete free trade and a military defence agreement. Most free trade and immigration is shit because poor countries depress wages and incompatible cultures cause conflict. All of us though are modern first world nations and have comparable language and culture.
An Anglo-sphere union would be the largest political alliance in the world, have the largest economy, have the most natural resources and have a military capable of fighting every other nation in the world simultaneously and winning.
Fuck NATO and fuck the TPP.
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>>127764507
That's never going to happen.
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>>127768432
Build a border wall across the channel.
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>>127764507
I'm up for it desu
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>>127768441
https://www.ons.gov.uk/census/2011census
lel fail copy and paste
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>>127765108
>California not being wealthy
what do I expect from someone who doesn't live there
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>>127765025
You have to divide for population you idiot.
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>>127765108
We're like new york except the faggy art liberals can actually afford to live here because of mexican slave labor
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>>127765025
London alone is probably richer than California.
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>>127768511
Holy fuck, you're actually right, London hasn't fallen yet, i'll give them another 20 years max. That has actually made me feel better

http://www.londonspovertyprofile.org.uk/indicators/topics/londons-geography-population/londons-population-by-ethnicity/
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>>127765828
Our government's purpose is to further the greater Israel agenda. What are you talking about?
Our involvement in foreign wars, our social programs and tax systems, the great red herring that is "racism"

If there is any government accountability in the US, it is in the local governments. But they actually balance budgets instead of borrowing and overspending so that's easier to expect.
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>>127768840
45% white British is still terrible.
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>>127768804
London's GDP is only slightly higher than california, but the actual living standards are much higher in most states.
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It's a good idea but we need the monarchy.
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>>127768977
UK's GDP*
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>>127768977
The fact thats it next to Mexico in a shitty climate makes it livings standards go down to reasonable people not born there.
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>>127764507
Why not just become a confederation? If anything the USA could then impose the Bill of Rights upon GB, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.
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>>127768919
True, but at least the Eastern Europeans are boosting our numbers
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>>127768652
I really want to see them negotiate food and water with Trump. Will be hilarious.
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>>127769144
Cause again, we scrapped the same Bill of Rights in the 1800s. Fuck taking it back a few liberal niceties.
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>>127769115
>california
>shitty climate
It's a little soggy during the rainy season but jesus christ you couldn't be more fucking wrong.

>>127769144
Tried that once, didn't work out because democrats were the one doing it.
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>>127769347
It's hot and desert like. The complete opposite to the climates Europeans are meant to live in.
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I'd be happy to let those brown teeth brothers in as a protectorate.
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>>127769227
>implying
they're too scared of daddy
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>>127769413
Most human beings consider sunshine with a lot of greenery to be a good climate to live in.

Coming from somebody who lives in a literal monsoon island though, i'm not surprised in your tastes.
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>>127765025
just not true at all bong
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>>127767604
My family is from Ramsgate, Kent; my great grandfather designed its port. He was a lower-middle class sort of man, and served dutifully in the Kent Home Gaurd during the war. His only daughter was my grandmother. Today my cousins live in Eastbourne, Sussex. One is a librarian and volunteer at her local church, the other is an amateur archaeologist, there are more I haven't met.
I am English, and I know enough about my motherland to know that this Anglo-American LARPing nonsense is harmful to the culture and history of Britain. We are not the same and British society has a host features Americans could never feel in the same way.
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>>127767902
If that was to happen, we'd have to replace the meaning of 4th of July because it would serve no point. "Unification day" for example.
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>>127769610
Most humans in African and Middle Eastern climates. The UK has an excellent climate - its season based, as its meant to be. Like most of Europe is to varying degrees.

And greenery? Lel. 80% of the UK is farmlands and woodlands.
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>>127764507
FUCK OFF BURGER REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>127764507

>There's literally almost no downsides
>Annexed by globalist land
>85% white to 30% in 5 years when your non whites learn of our gibs

Yeah nah i'm good
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Why would a nuclear armed UN council member join burgerland? London is far superior to NY
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>>127765025
probably a good reason to join you cucks 2.8 trillion plus 17.95 equals alot
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>>127770134
>London is far superior to NY
I'm only saying yes to that because 33% white vs 60% white, plus its history.
Its like comparing dogshit to dogshit. US should re-join the UK though. It makes more historical sense. So should Ireland. Please rejoin us.
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>>127770309
Lad, that page is firmly turned. I like your culture and your people, most Irish people do but we are okay. I often wonder what would have happened had Home Rule been passed. Can you imagine an Irish PM?
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>>127769843
The last part is true enough. There's certain things you can't know unless you haven't lived in England. But I'm pretty happy by Anglo pride in the US. Every other variation of European is. Why not Anglos who invented the US and set out its legal foundation?
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>>127770686
Well we have free movement of peoples even without the EU and we're so culturally, genetically and geographically similar we might as well be the same place anywhere.

I still say parts of the UK like Northumberland resemble Ireland/Scotland more even down to the accent than London or any southern constitutency.
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>>127770686
>Can you imagine an Irish PM?

yep
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>>127770814
America is a result of 2,000 years of Western Civilization. Its weird but I have such a love and affection of the place. Full of salt of the earth people. They are more European in some strange ways that we are.
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>>127764507
i for one am for it
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>>127764507
The United States can fuck off. An Imperial Federation of Britain, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada would be preferable.
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>>127771211
They're more conceptual Europe rather. Europe is 300+ ancient cultures who prospered in different things from metal work, ship building, agriculture, warfare, construction, woodwork, stonework, etc, and as a result developed different identities, with different geographical positions. They created nations, all with different law, politics, belief and even sects of religion. Then when Europeans founded America, they took all of that and made it into a unified federal state. It took Europe 10,000 years to achieve it though. And the US is on the long list of European accomplishments.

f
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You think the Brit's want to live under drumpft's dictatorship? You're Fucking delusional.
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>>127770948
Its strange we are more like an old version of England in the past in some ways. Fox hunting is still happening here. Lots of toffs come over for excursions. Lots of old houses and stuff and horsey sets in the country. Queen got a lot of respect when she visited as did Prince Charles. I think we have 5,000 Irish people in the British Army.
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>>127771659
Would've been happy to during and after the election. Not so much now, you can keep him.
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>>127771752
Well what did you think he was going once elected? Make America great again?
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>>127771748
Know exactly what you mean. From northumberland, everywhere within 50 miles of me is 95%-100% white surrounded by english countryside and old industrial/mining towns. Not at all uncommon since the english countryside engulfs so much of the country but the last remnants of pre-ww2 english countryside exist in areas like northumberland and cumbria. including the last remnants of any sort of gun culture which is absolutely ruiness elsewhere in the UK.
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>>127772050
last remnants of english countryside culture*
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>>127764507
I'd say to make each country of the UK a state, or possibly even further divide it by counties or regions
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>>127772193
you sound like the republicans in the 17th century. look how that turned out.
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>>127764507
Sold!

Sign me up
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The U.K. would be by far the most populous state in the union, and so would probably get 70+ votes in the electoral college- all of which would go to the democratic candidate.

With the U.K., California and NY etc, it would be impossible to ever have a Republican president again.

Still want us to join?
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>>127772050
Pretty sweet. Always wanted to visit the Lake District. Heard its beautiful. A lot of the Romantic poets found their muses in that area. Yeah, a good lot of farmers have guns here. Mostly for shooting foxes or dogs that go after sheep. Ireland is still pretty rural in its heart. It makes me sad a lot of the old ways are fading away.
>Bonfire night, the Wren, oral tradition, Stations of the Cross, Samhain, Irish language, observing Lent
> all fading away

I'm not religious in the slightest either.
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>>127772590
Disgusting, spineless traitor. We used to off people like you
>>127772656
Lake District is beautiful, so is Durham but so is most of the countryside. 40 minutes from the shitholes in London and you wouldn't know there was an invasion going on next to you. I think Ireland and Britain are both pretty rural nations. Quaint villages are how we're meant to live, fuck cities.
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>>127772193
That would mean even more electoral college votes for the Democrats when it comes to Presidential elections.
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Uhhh all the radical muslims that moved into the U.K. From the EU could move into the US. Also completely defeats the purpose of brexit if they just joined the US. You're retarded anon
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>>127772880
>Our Island Home

Is it weird to be nostalgic for a time you were born in time for? Or home sick for a place you've never lived in. I'm reading Middlemarch by George Elliot and the moment. Something really wholesome & comfy about life outside the center's of power. Or "provincial life" as Elliot put it.

Dublin is going the same way. Full of soulless yuppies.
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>all the brit cucks ITT saying yes

Holy fuck, and I thought canada was cucked... Nationalism is dead, the new /pol/ cares only about race now.
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>>127773288
Not weird at all. My plan is to get a decent house in the country and as much land as possible then never go back to the city.
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>>127771659
Let America join us!

Great Britain, United Kingdom of America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Ireland all under one rule again! Unite the militaries under one Empire Army! Fuck NATO AND EU
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Fuck off, we have a history and culture that we're proud of, we haven't been invaded in a 1000 years and we're not handing ourselves over to bunch of mart sharters.
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>>127774325
Well, we were """"invaded"""" by the French in the 18th century if you want to have a laugh or two. They realized why launching a naval attack against island peoples is a retarded idea.
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>>127774317
>America
>Ireland
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>>127767610
balls
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>>127774644
Ireland has reason not to. US were just a bunch of rowdy Anglos who had too much to drink.
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>>127774644
Your point, dickhead?
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>>127766737
you probably made that image as some sort of triggering attack,

except its true, she literally loves nig nogs and "commonwealth partners" whom are 90% nigs and poo
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>>127764507
>Free speech, right to bear arms

Hmm... deal, son.
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>>127764507
I would unironically vote for this, the anglosphere in general has way more in common that just clumping together European countries that have warred against each other for centuries. Plus I love trump.
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>>127768478
I'd support it.

The UK and Canada are basically brothers to us.

Australia and NZ are cool too.

Become U.S. states.
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>>127764507
>right to bear arms

Shit, Luton Town would become a fucking war zone overnight!
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>>127764721
this
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>>127775526
Nah mate.

You become a British colony.
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>>127775828
Tried that, it didn't work out so well.

Maybe the reverse would work better.
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These faggots don't even have a monarchy over here lads.
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TAKE US BACK DADDY
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>>127764507
The UK will demand at least 4 or 5 statehoods.
Each for one of their country and, depending on the circumstances, the Isle of Man
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>>127775487
>the european union doesnt work
>so lets lump another bunch of nations together
>also nice jewish president
Traitor.
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Why Does Britain own Australia when it's so much bigger? Are aussie cucks? I always thought they were nice people with great lingo

Is it true they are ruled by british empire still?
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>>127765655
this, sadly
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>>127776182
ayylmao
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>>127775651
UK gun laws have the direct benefit of our 3 million FAC holders being 99% or possibly even 100% white.
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>>127764507
>Reminds /pol/ why everyone hate Americans.
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>>127768106
>>127768192
>>127768441
It's just that minorities segregate themselves, so when you first enter the "immigrant" areas of the city that's pretty much ALL you're going to see. Which leads to people believing X city is almost entirely immigrant. They aren't showing the wealthy parts of town where there's pretty much no immigrants.
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>>127776275
Because in the real world, size doesn't matter. Unless we're talking about dicks and yours is tiny.

Plus Australia is completely uninhabitable outside of the outskirts of their land.
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>>127764507
You fucking what? We already have enough of your 54% diversity culture, 3rd wave feminism has basically spawned from america. We actually had the nuclear family until you ruined it.
What a fucking joke, piss off you greasy burger go work at starbucks for 12 hours a day to pay for your diabetes tablets.
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>>127776182
What is your argument for 4 or 5?

Isle of man can be like Puerto Rico.
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Changed my mind. We add Canada and let the Belts screw.
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>>127776470
careful with the insults friend, you wouldn't want to be locked away

That map is pretty funny, but not why you think. Looking at all the failures of your empire with admiration? full on delusion
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>>127764507
Get rid of your pedophilocracy and maybe we can negotiate something.
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>>127764507
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>>127776730
>careful with the insults friend, you wouldn't want to be locked away
see >>127766239

>Looking at all the failures of your empire with admiration?
Achievements*
And your country is one of them. Anglo founders, Anglo constitution, Anglo common law, Anglo people to start with. It was a paradise. It's not us that ruined it either.
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>>127776913

>the achiement
>of only having a tiny island to show for all you 'conquests'

thanks for laying the ground work for western civilization

oh wait that was the romans
Try again, sweetie
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>>127776660
England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
They are all tied together by the crown, which will no longer exist once they join the USA and the pOTus becomes their head of state.

Isle of Man, being a crown dependency, which is not even part of the UK may tag along or become an independent state.
They certainly won't become a territory like Puerto Rico. They are neither conquered, nor are they a surefire blue state, which is the true reason why PR statehood is constantly delayed.
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>>127766547
>Soon
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>>127777163
funnily enough i worked on a museum at the end of hadrian's wall called segedunum so i'm pretty knowledgable on roman history and english history.

The Romans invented republican democracy and their law became the legal basis for European law, but we invented parliamentary democracy, and any liberal niceties Americans consider "the foundation of a country" like freedom of speech, the right to bear arms, tax levying, etc. Even though your system is modelled after the Romans w/ the tribune of plebs (chamber of representatives), the veto motion and the executive branch, your Senate functions nothing like the Roman senate, and a lot more like an English parliament.

You're comparing the two most influential empires in history which happen to be 2000 years apart.
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>>127774325
John Paul Jones invaded Whitehaven in 1788, raiding the town's public hoise and setting fire to the harbor area.

Then he stole HMS Enterprise right out from under you *judt to give it back to the french*

Suck it, limey.
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>>127764507
>There's literally almost no downsides
We'd be selling out our culture to America instead of / as well as immigrants.

While I love America, I'd never give up Queen, currency and sovereignty for economical benefits.

When our country truly is dead, by all means, inherit the landmass, but that won't be England. Just some rock, the corpse of a country.
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>>127777163
Also a supreme court, a president (Romans had consuls), the House of Commons and Lords (two houses as opposed to one Senate), and your president is elected by a national assembly.
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>>127778195
>implying the US will be around then
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>>127768192
Nope, below 50% now. At least be honest.
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>>127778566
https://www.ons.gov.uk/census/2011census
I am being honest. It's the because living out the "British" part after white who are being dishonest. Being 60% white being 45% white British while the rest of the country is 91% white and I've never visited London in my life isn't a big achievement lel .Why would I lie about that or have any reason not to be honest? Check the latest government census.
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No, they would try to squander our rights to own guns....I hate to be that guy, but I will
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>>127778799
The right to bear arms was created in the UK.

And yes, we do want it fucking back. Laws are (slightly) more lenient than people think here. For example, with an FAC you can own an AR-15 but in straight-pull form so cuckform. But completely erratic with ridiculous licensing processes.
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>>127777929
Isn't the DOI largely inspired by magna carta?
Can't save I've read the DOI in decades, but I could have sworn I'd read that the wording is so similar for parts of it that it's clearly one of the bigger inspirations.
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>>127765179
Okay, have fun with your mudslimes instead.
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>>127764507
Delete this before somebody sees it you embarrassment
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>>127779017
>And yes, we do want it fucking back
I'd rather have the death penalty and our unarmed police force back.

Having a police force that can enforce the law without needing weapons always felt more impressive and indicative of a strong society with steel values.

That simply doesn't work anymore thanks to a mix of no death penalty, ease of access to weapons(?) and importing muslims where suicide is the intended outcome.

I want it back.
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>>127778195
>When our country truly is dead, by all means, inherit the landmass, but that won't be England. Just some rock, the corpse of a country.
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The last thing we need is plebs getting guns that would be a disaster.
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>>127764507
i see it, they are already getting colonized by their former colonies why not directly join one? they would come full circle
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>>127779526
Mate, that's completely modern. At the Battle of Fishguard when the French invaded Britain, it was British armed civilians who countered them initially with great success, the TA was originally a civilian militia before being engulfed into the armed forces in WW1 and manhunts for criminals was common in villages in Britain. Being disarmed and relying on any form of police, armed or disarmed, is not the British way despite the stereotypes we hold.

Start buying guns.
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>>127764507
Let them fix their migrant problem first.
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>>127779647
I'm not suggesting a copy of the American system, though our original system was a gun license which costed a shilling at the post office & you couldn't be a dangerous criminal, that was all.

Our current laws allow near 100% of our gunowners to be white. This is how it should stay. As an island nation we can curb the illegal gun trade somewhat better than land nations.

But we need to get rid of calibre restrictions, .22 isn't a fucking combat round, we need to get rid of firearm restrictions, a simpler and more practical licensing process & first and foremost, we need to legalize handguns instead of cucky black powder weapons.
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>>127765179
I'm more worried about you flooding us with kebabs.

You can keep your queen and parliament though. There's no law that requires the states to have any particular form of government.
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>>127768441
Imagine knowing fuck all about your own country and getting all your information from reddit yanks
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>>127765025
Per capita....
bong...
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>>127780052
i end up thinking this alot
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>>127765438
We did it...
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>>127764507
As nice as an idea of Britain and America being one country is, I would never agree to it because we have the monarchy, and I do not want Britain to become a republic.
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Finally.......a place to send all of the niggers!
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>>127764507
No.
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>>127764507

It takes a particularly defeated people to voluntarily subject themselves to foreign rule
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Fuck off, we're full. Britain is the one Western European nation we could absorb and not get any smarter.
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Britain is close to 90% white right now. So we're going to stay right where we are, you fucking yank cuck
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>>127764507
Why stop there? Let's take Canada, Greenland, Cuba, Hispaniola, the Bahamas, Jamaica, Iceland, Australia, PNG, and New Zealand

Then we lead the Second Britannic Empire
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>>127764507
What about all the shit skins in Londonistan.
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>>127782051
The demographics of London, being 60% white, is actually 6% higher than your entire country. Lel.
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>>127764961
We're similar enough

The Brits have just been Europified. A good dose of conservative Americanism should bring them back
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>>127765179
>Britons will never be slaves to your system.
We're both slaves of the same foreign system
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>>127782183
>The Brits have just been Europified
We've always been completely distinct from inland Europe, and European cultures are pretty distinct anyway.

>A good dose of conservative Americanism should bring them back
European conservatism is pro-monarchy. We're conserving different things...
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>>127764721
Shouldn't have caused a world war, faggot.
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>>127764507
Absolutely the fuck not this country is left-wing enough as it is without including a bunch of cucked eurofags and their sandnigger pets
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>>127764507
United States of Anglica ftw!

The only thing is that many brits would feel jilted over losing 1000s of years of culture. I say we increase states rights a little more and let a British state locally fund preservation of their cultural heritage through their architecture and even maybe let their state government retain their parliament. I also would like to see countries like Australia and the closer Canada integrated.
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>>127782484
People can't do whatever the fuck they like, step over treaties and such fourth, and not expect a reaction from a country like Britain at the time.
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>>127764507
Currency part would be negative. Britain can print their own currency right now
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>>127765655
>60%
AHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>127766752
It takes 2 years, not our fault
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>>127766419
We shall fuse, as brothers.

And the space-faring empire we create will last a hundred thousand years.
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>>127764507
You got it all wrong we need to rejoin them. Make Britain Great again and then make it an empire by making Canada, Australia, and New Zealand join. Unite the anglosphere and deport the shit skins.
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>>127782767
We've been over this 3 times because morons from reddit get their information from other morons from reddit.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/census/2011census

This is the ONLY government census done every 10 years or so in the UK. The ONLY reliable source on such a subject. Do not believe any others.

London is, indeed, 60% white and 47% white British. Stop embarrassing yourself on something factchecked in this thread.
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>>127764507
OH SURE BURGER.

no thanks!
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>>127782966
>London is, indeed, 60% white
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>127782901
What do bongs know about spacefaring, exactly?
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>>127782964
I want to colonize the world.
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Canada makes way more sense.
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>>127783287
Colonizing none-whites is what got us into this problem in the first place. We go for our own then when were done we can genocide the niggers in South Africa and Rhodesia.
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>>127783370
Yeah but they have more shitskins than other Anglican countries, percentage-wise.
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>>127764507
NO
TOO MANY JIHADIS AND MUSLIMS NOW
If they purge then yes
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>>127783370
>literally canada

Never
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>>127783455
There are differences in who could apply for British citizenship in the colonies. Shitskins certainly couldn't. This was one of the key tenants to the American Revolution actually, the founding fathers spent much of their lives appealing for changes to be made in that system.

If you mean the fake politically correct outrage 200 years later, thats just convenience for the political climate. Nothing to do with colonisation, just a push.
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>>127764507
Basically another Puerto Rico but instead of Spanish speaking shitskins we get a bunch of pakis, nogs and leftist. Sounds great burgerbro...
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>>127783748

They get a bad rep around here and you know its unfair. You can take an average Canadian and drop him off in anywhere USA and there would be precisely 0 culture shock.

The benefits far outweigh the downsides. Just think, wed single handedly uncuck the leaf while maintaining the role of lone superpower for essentially forever.

Come home, leafs.
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>>127776018
we need to take japan too

ALL HAIL BRITANNIA!!
ALL HAIL LELOUCH!
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>>127783750
I'm not arguing against it from a legal or historical perspective. The truth is that a people should self govern based on their race and ethnicity. Colonizing a location fucks that up. But uniting a people is justified. However if we expand we shouldn't have a different nation inside of our own. That would just lead to the pretext for a drawn out war. The only answer is moving the local population that we or killing them to make room for our own people.
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>>127764507

Fuck no, we didn't kick those sanctimonious pricks out only to let them back in to destroy our way of life.
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>>127784313
Colonisation also allowed for the largest white settlements outside of Europe to be born too remember.
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>>127765025
>those basic info
Looks like we have beter education aswell..
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>>127784497
>Implying we didn't just want representation in their parliament.
If we got that and they didn't tax us till then we would be less retarded Canada. But governments like keeping power. A people should stick together even across oceans.
>>127784526
Agreed I just think the way you did it in Africa and India was wrong. You did much better in the locations you genocided the savages.
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>>127784251
There would be 0 culture shock because Canada has never been an independent nation with a strong sense of national identity. Their whole reason for being is that 'we don't want to be Americans' -- that's it. We're cut from the same cloth and inhabit the same continent with an imaginary division -- not even a border. If Canada would agree to join, and allow us free exploration of their resources, then the U.S. would be able to secure another century of Pax Americana, holding off the Chinese for a while longer. It's our lack of resources at this point that will bottleneck us, and everyone knows it.

With regards to the U.K., what do we need from them, that we can't get through a bilateral relationship? Exactly. They're ultimately a worthless island that is becoming increasingly irrelevant.
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>>127765179
Mate look around. The same people that own amercia owned us first. And they're already making us more diverse.
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>>127783235
As much as the situation requires, as always.
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If we integrate Britain, just don't libcuck our country. I would love to freely visit and import more local culture and customs, but if you must have your British cuck ideologies, contain it within the vessel of your specific state.
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>>127785485
another american concerned about what 91% land will do to 54% land. you've already had a negro president. what you afraid of mate?
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>>127785632
Britbongs incessant commitment towards awful socialist experiments.
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>>127782397
By conservative Americanism I mean traditionally English values like self-defense, personal liberty, freedom of thought/expression, etc
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>>127785917
well, the old labour constitutencies in the north tend to vote labour which is typically seen as 'left wing' but they vote because historically it was a working man's party and many towns in the north are ex-industrial and mining towns.

that'd create confusion with the US party system. plus we elect parties, not leaders so its more natural for us.
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>>127786123
Then I 100% agree with you. But keep the pro-monarchy part, not that its going anywhere without taking the whole country with it.
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>>127766468
Pay up sour kraut.
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>>127786290
>Being a monarcuck
On your hands and knees to some foreign cunt all day, then your masters bow to the Saudis. Can't think of anything more pathetic.
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>127777777
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>>127786290
They can stay as figureheads

That family was subverted long ago
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>>127786229
All because Brits don't want to take the time to be educated on individuals. Pretty sure that'll change as you'd be forced to pay attention to Congress.
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>>127786425
Any single bit of British legislation and legal foundation promotes the institution of the monarchy and the crown, from the Magna carta, to the Bill of Rights 1689, the Act of the Union, etc. Every single bit of our foundation is centered around that role, and it is also deeply intertwined into the constitutions of approximately 14 other countries too, you pathetic pile of wank.

You can be anti-royal family, but to be anti-monarchy is to promote the destruction of your nation. There's a reason republicanism fails here every time its tried and its because no one wants to reverse 1,200 years of history on a design that works.

By the way, the process for the removal of a monarch was set out after the English civil war, mainly in the Rex v Rex trials, if you want to exercise your right to petition the monarch: go ahead, see how many of your fellow countrymen agree with your traitorous ways. Off yourself you small dicked, cowardly, republican scum.
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>>127786616
The Queen exercised her powers, through her governor general, to shut down the Australian parliament and fire the Prime Minister most recently in 1975.

And she signs Royal Assent for everything that becomes law. I think I mentioned that in this thread.

The monarchy having no power is another meme.
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>>127765179

3/5 compromise

Whites have tried this exchange before: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-Fifths_Compromise

3 nigs are worth 5 kebabs

now lets talk levys
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>>127786640
No, because we realized republican democracy - what you follow - failed every time. It failed with its inventors in Rome (they transitioned into a monarchy), it failed in any nation from early modern to late modern times. The only time it showed even a tiny bit of success was in a city state setting which explains why the US is failing now its Constitution, which was meant to govern 200k Anglos, now governs 350 million people of different backgrounds.
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>>127764507
It's a good idea. As it stands, I live on the border with the UK which is good as I can avail of their supermarkets which have a wider selection of goods. Needless to say, I need a Walmart nearby
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USA, UK and Australia should all become one and the Same Empire.

The political system would be similar to Ancient Greece where every 7 years a new Prime minister from one of the 3 nations would become the main decision maker.
Just trying to think of a good name...
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>>127788063
Athenian democracy? Sounds like a nightmare waiting to happen. Even Republican democracy is better than that.

There needs to be a single leader, who has been groomed for the role from an early age. A strong man with charisma and the intelligence to lead.
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>>127764507
how about you become a colony again mate?

seriously though.......we must rise to our former glory not piggy back on america
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>>127764507
I would welcome this its basically a more cultured america anyway
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>>127788313
we're too politically correct to make that free movement only amongst actual anglos so it would be a disaster which would see the free movement of shitskins everywhere.
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>>127787704
Well then if you join you can propose that to our government, to let a party control appointees to Congress. But I'm currently registered no party and our first president was also no party. But I imagine parties would conspire to avoid populist figures like Ron Paul from being selected.
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>>127766419
Can we not include Canada? Unless they uncuck themselves that is
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>>127788420
pc culture is dying,normies are getting wind of it and realizing it now......eventually people will want to aspire to somert greater,that was once the EU

the anglosphere is a good replacement
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this would be the 1st hyperpower if the anglo world united
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>>127788504
No. A constitutional monarchy under parliamentary democracy works specifically in Britain because of 1,200 years of history. There are circumstances that couldn't be matched, and parliamentary democracy seems to fail in non-Anglo countries.
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>>127764507
The US doesn't want to look after the Caliphate of Londonstan.
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>>127788865
That guy converted away from Islam and apologized for his autistic stage lel.
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>>127788865
that guy admitted he was autistic and got dragged into extremism,he since has calmed down and is shamed by his actions lol
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>>127764507
don't do it Archibald
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>>127788803

Emu's slice the best peaches.
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>>127789036
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>>127764507

I like this idea. It's kinda like, USA grew up, had a fight with dad, moved out and now has made amends with his aging father and is gonna move him into his house to take care of him in his old age.
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>>127788268
You're right. So when can we get started on the paperwork?
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>>127789204
I'll start now.
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>>127789187
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>>127788865
that guy admitted he was autistic and got dragged into extremism,he since has chilled out and is shamed by his actions kek
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>>127789070

and now I want to watch Lawrence of Arabia

Why didnt you teach us burgers to inspire the wetbecks?
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>>127764507
>Let's flood the US with anti-speech anti-gun cultural Marxist indoctrinated cucks to set fire to the Bill of Rights faster.
The war was fought to escape this shit. Are you people really this retarded? Life is bad enough as it is with white genocide. They few percent of Brits on /pol/ who aren't cucked are the only ones worthy to be united. They'll have to prove they want free speech and guns.
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>>127788697
With states rights, Britain could still maintain a statewide monarchy if they want, but having the chance of a spoiled monarch that gets what he wants is too risky for our country. The king that adopted protestantism did so because he had a hissy fit over not being able to remarry. He was unanimously known as a tyrant too.
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>>127789381
Lawrence was a Chad.
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>>127765655
>>127768106
>>127768192
>>127768567
>Trusting British Census data
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>>127789532
Mate, what are you talking about? Freedom of speech and the right to bear arms existed in the Thirteen Colonies. This is a misconception. The Constitution kept a lot of amendments from the British Bill of Rights 1689 which were already law, INCLUDING the right to bear arms amongst protestants (which were the population).
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>>127789532
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_of_Rights_1689#Declaration_of_Right
Forgot the link.
Albeit now, you'd be flooded with, at the very least, the anti-gun sentiment. But that's why I've been a member of Arm Britain for 7 years.
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>>127788999
Checking them digits faggot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMGZtkMS3sQ
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>>127764507
I like this idea only after Britain kicks all the muzzies out of their country.
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>>127789819
I think you'd be surprised. It was only 20 years ago we could own handguns.

I miss my .357
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>>127790446
Not at all. Read my posts here. I know all about British gun legislation in history. It was only 300 years ago we fought off a foreign invasion, only 80 years ago we had a civilian militia army, and only 50 years ago we truly lost large scale gun culture.
>>127779987
>>127779765
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>>127764507

Fuck the Eternal Anglo. Send more muzzies their way and let them reap the rewards of their shortsighted and stupid behavior. They had their chance in 1939 and they fucking blew it. Fuck them and fuck the Queen.
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>>127764507
>Become a functioning and important part of the world's largest economy
It's only largest because it has the largest population in the first world. That's not an argument.
>>127764507
>Literally zero paperwork to move or visit anywhere in the USA
Great, so now Pakis can move over here.
>>127764507
>Your freedom would be completely guaranteed by the united states constitution (Free speech, right to bear arms, ect.)
How naive can you be?
>>127764507
>No more state run media like the BBC
What is PBS?
>>127764507
>No more unusual taxes (tv licenses)
What is the FCC?
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>>127782484
fuck off before we dresden you instrusive krautcucks again


also fuck off OP you 60% cunt we'll fucking hang your family before we join you
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>>127789733
>>127789819
The revolution was fought for these basic liberties. Speech. Guns. Safety against the government. Your population is filled to the brim with cultural Marxists. Your state (((education))) was very "successful". You have no free speech or gun rights like the US rooted into the highest laws.

If you support free speech, guns, self determination, and getting the federal boot off your back and low taxes, good. Then you alone might be able to come. First you must start acknowledging how harmful the brainwashed cucks around you are. Your communist peers must stay in their containment zone. It's troubling if you want it any other way.
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>>127791115
>The revolution was fought for these basic liberties. Speech. Guns. Safety against the government

Only this simply isn't true and dicksizing when the American Revolution was more an English civil war of Anglo vs Anglos and you're likely German or some other European descent means nothing.

As I said, the RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS was enforced through the Bill of Rights 1689. This was signed into law after the first English Civil war and applied to the Thirteen Colonies too. So you already had the right to bear arms.

Liberty without expansion makes it hard to respond to, but put it this way, Britain was the most liberal (in a classical sense) nation in late modern Europe until Napoleonic France, and that's a fact. I'm not even a fan of classical liberalism, it just can't be denied.

For the last part, I'm not taking advice from a country with a population of 54% whites. We're 91% and have an additional 900 years of experience in nation building than you. Hell, YOUR nation was built from us.
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>>127790784
>America
>Largest population in the world
What?
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>>127791556
You conveniently left out the "largest population -in the first world-" bit.
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>>127791115
Also, even being as pro-gun as I am, WE have the same self defence laws as the most of your states LEL. You absolute fucking monkey, you know nothing. You literally took our common law now claim it as your own? Fuck off.

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/self_defence/
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>>127764721

They only cut off one. We cut off the other one ourselves with the NHS thanks to Labour.
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>>127764507
We don't want your spics and niggers
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>>127765655
Untrue
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>>127792203
Expand. And if you're going to say London look over the thread first.
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>>127776566
Hardcore institutional pedophilia upper-crust society though, that is your thing. not nice to talk about it though, so we will go ahead and gloss right over that.
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>>127792362
Not upperclass, aristocratic class.
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>>127791513
You have a myopic consideration of the difference between US and British law 250 years onward of the revolution, and why the two places are so significantly different in culture of the population in the present.

>We're 91% and have an additional 900 years of experience in nation building than you. Hell, YOUR nation was built from us.
That's one of the stupidest statements I've read on /pol/ all day. Cognitive dissonance. You should be blowing a mental gasket at having a high white population in total yet being so cucked in law and behavior. The UK is turned into 1984 and wants to take the US down with it in the gutter. Insanity.

The US has a 1% muslim population. England has over a 6% muslim population. Factor out Scotland and N. Ireland to get the real picture. Their birth rates are high and your older white generation is about to die. Those muslims vote in major elections. Our 20 million illegals don't (except in Commiefornia trying to make it easy for them to break laws). Your nation is fucked more than you can possibly realize 10 years from now.

Where are all your "nation builders" now? Useless.
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>>127791687
I changed my mind. You can't come. Not until you wake up and acknowledge the disgusting aspects your cucked culture that has no place in the US.
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>>127764507

Fuck no retard!!!

They are full of single whores and child Lesters and Muslim inbread scum.
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>>127764507
nah the Brits should stay Brit
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>>127792545
>You have a myopic consideration of the difference between US and British law 250 years onward of the revolution, and why the two places are so significantly different in culture of the population in the present.
You were talking about the 18th and early 19th century. Your points were that the Revolution was fought over common misconceptions, and bizarrely enough as they are misconceptions, rights they held already.

Freedom of speech is still fixed, though what this means is you can't be thrown in jail for speech. Personal assassination is still open to everybody which is why I'm cautious with bullshit liberal niceties from the 1600s in the first place. The right to bear arms from the Bill of Rights is wildly misinterpreted, to the point its legal, but the bill is not even properly used in law any more so it does not matter now. It's just quoted occasionally

>You should be blowing a mental gasket at having a high white population in total yet being so cucked in law and behavior.

I don't deny the problems the UK have. In fact I try to fix them. It's the comparisons mixed in with the sheer arrogance I find amusing. A country that is 54% white under invasion in their supreme court, party branches, their politicians, senators and even their presidents, and led the entire western world into depravity through popular like likes to lecture other countries on what is acceptable & not.

FYI, GCHQ & NSA are one in the same. Our intelligence agencies are practically the same. Do you know how many terror plots the CIA have foiled in the UK, and vice versa? Everything we have, you have imposed too.
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>>127793027
(((Authorities))) want to destroy white men who speak their minds. Sick culture. Do not be in denial about what's coming for the UK or you'll only be part of the problem.
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>>127792919
I can explain why this is but you'll only mock me. The UK has one benefit to its gun laws, that its 3 million FAC holders are 100% white - now in London, firearms deaths increased massively amongst Jamaican Yardie gangs, the result was to impose bans on firearms which worked a lot better in the UK being an island nation than a land nation. But instead of using guns, they switched to knives instead. The liberal ethos can't connect this to race: so their solution is to ban guns, it gets down to spoons and all quote-on-quote ""offensive weapons."

All whites need to exercise their rights in full in the UK. Hold your .22 caliber H&K and straight-pull AR-15s with pride. Even if they come in cuckform, its best to be armed in the UK than unarmed anywhere else.

By the way, the Tony Martin farmer case you posted, the reason he was charged is because he chased a burglar off his property & then murdered him which is a crime in any self defence related case. Once a person fleas, you can't kill him. The firearm was illegal too.
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>>127793234
meant for
>>127793465
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>>127793611
I don't pay TV license tax lel. I don't watch tv.
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>>127793583
And also, out of a city, there's no excuse for a white Brit with a clean record not to hold atleast a section 1 or 2 on their FAC.
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>>127793583
You're free to speak your beliefs. I disagree. There is no benefit whatsoever to any state imposed barriers on the ability to protect ourselves with equalizing weapons. I can head to the store right now and come back with a car load of guns. Just like that.

That's the lesser of evils. The worser of evils is imposing lengthy restrictions that only the common law-abiding man gets fucked by. Criminals get their weapons either way. Men and women fearing for their safety shouldn't face increasing hoops to jump through in their times of need.
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>>127793820
That's not the point of the pic, I hope you know. Do you realize how insane a billboard like that looks to an uncucked American liberty lover? It's precursor Orwellian as hell.
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>>127794284
>Criminals get their weapons either way
True, and its usually not a firearm because of the difficulties of acquiring one, which is why they turned to knives. Don't think a white Brit would ever be charged or even stopped for carrying a knife. It's legal w/ justification and only a nigger would not have proper justification for it.

The last gun wielding criminal in the North East was shotdead by police, March 2016 in South Shields. Northumberland and Cumbria have the highest issued FACs too, or did have. Which isn't surprising since this is where the last remnants of pre-ww2 gun culture exists in.

>>127794468
I don't think it's right, as for "liberty loving" but small state libterarian bullshit is hardly what I want either. Classical liberalism almost destroyed this country, and arguably did eventually.
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>>127784290
We practically own them already as is.
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