Is abortion ever morally justifiable?

>>127759308
Wtf is that pic?! She looks like she ate a child.

>>127759308
I think it is in cases of rape and that kind of stuff, but it shouldn't be just birth control. I'm no doctor but I think if it can survive outside the womb it's too late to abort.

>>127759631
Quadroonplets.

>>127759308
hope this is some weird fetish photoshop

>>127759308
That's why you don't catch me fucking horses anymore

>>127759308
>>A foetus is a human being.

Incorrect. It's a cluster of cells with the potential to become a human being. Until it could survive unassisted outside the womb, it isn't a person.

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>>127759308
something about fertile white women
HNNNNNNNNG

>>127759873
>a festering mass of brown nipples
K

>>127759308
Have you ever met a nigger?

>>127759308
Yes. I didn't want to be a pappa.... Plus the lady was a mentalcase.

I dodged a bullet

>>127759790

Are people on life support no longer human beings?

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>>127759308
Yes! Remember the niggers

America would be totally fucked without abortion

>>127759873
>brown nipples
Anon, I...

>>127759928
If you're not attracted to that you're not healthy.

>>127759308
Abortion would be a trouble if human life had inherent value.

>>127760066
Depends if they're brain dead, if they are they're no better than corpses.

Abortion is for the better anyway, the world could do without more niggers, asians, and spics.

>>127759308
>>The killing of human beings is prohibited.
This is where you wrong m8. Government can kill or allow to kill whoever they want and call it good thing and imprison you if yo say it is not. BASED.

>>127760070
This

Abortion is murder, but some fetuses are niggers.

>>127760066
>are human beings that survived the birthing process but are now on life support no longer human?

>>127759308
>what is a human being
Thankfully that is a scientific question. Easily answered, at the moment of conception you become uniquely human with 23 pairs of Chromosomes that are specific to you! Ending this gestation unnaturally is ending a Human Being. People with morals know this a "Murder".

>>127759308
if its for the sake of your gut enlargement fetish then yes

>>127760404
If you don't have pink nipples you're not white
prove me wrong

I dont see a problem with it

>>127759748
Kek

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>>127759873
It's because they are tall and they look less like bloated balloons during pregnancy and more like humans.

>>127760404
Are you kidding me? I dont need to stick my dick in her to do that to her. She has man tits like all of em. Huge gross nipps. A big fatty stomach. And a stink gash with a forest of hair. Ooooo

>>127759308
yes
>shitskin
>inferior poor/stupid genetics
>retards and genetic rejects

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>>127760666
>23 pairs of Chromosomes

>>127759873
>white
>nignips
wew

>>127759308
Why should morals be logically consistent?

You know what's not morally justifiable? Procreation. How can you justify bringing someone into a pointless existence where it's easy to suffer? I mean the fact that you have to put in a lot of effort to even enjoy life really proves that non-existence is superior to existence. Non-existence is technically flawless too. Call me what you want but anti-natalism > natalism if you're not a selfish psychopath, and if you are, then you deserve to suffer.

>>127759308
For the betterment of society, yes.

https://thefatherlessgeneration.wordpress.com/statistics/

>A study of 109 juvenile offenders indicated that family structure significantly predicts delinquency. Adolescents, particularly boys, in single-parent families were at higher risk of status, property and person delinquencies. Moreover, students attending schools with a high proportion of children of single parents are also at risk. A study of 13,986 women in prison showed that more than half grew up without their father. Forty-two percent grew up in a single-mother household and sixteen percent lived with neither parent

With the vast majority of abortions coming from single parents or soon-to-be single parents it is in the best interest of a society to condone and promote abortions.

Females are disgusting creatures

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>>127759308
Yeah.
In cases of forcible rape, incest, or when the baby has some horrible and early detectable disorder, or if there is some highly likely chance the labor will kill the mother.

Other than that, no. Its murder. And im glad it is illegal here.

It is sad how you burgers are still arguing over shit that is settled of the rest of the world. Its like ID to vote. Common fucking sense.

Gotta go now been hours since i have eaten a burrito and i am fukn dying.

>>127761220
This is all just a temporary fix and even curse for Eve having laid the devil. None of this exists in future or in Heaven and if she never did that, we wouldn't be here and they would be alive in the garden. Sept 23 has lots to do with this too

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>>127759308

I need more preggo porn for my fap folder

post more

>>127761313
This

>>127759308
Of course. Most abortions are done by blacks.

>>127761314
>abortion is illegal in a shitskin country

Why am I not surprised?

>>127761060
It's funny that you think you have made a valid point.

>>127759308
Yes, it should be mandatory if
>Not White
>No good genetics
>Not healthy
>Rape

>>127761670
t. Down Syndrome afflicted subhuman

It should be mandatory that abortions always be done on the mentally retarded/handicapped.

Tu0

>>127759308
Yes, when they are horribly disabled, would you want to live in such a state?

Pregnant women is a redpilled fetish i demand pics

>>127761915
This ^ upvote

Get off of this website get off of the internet

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>>127759308
Most abortions are done by minorities in poverty stricken areas. their babies would grow up to murder and rape people like you. We shouod ENCOURAGE poor people to abort their children thst they can't provide for. We also have minorities purposely racing to have many children to get benefits.

We have problem on the horizon and thats overpopulation. At some point SOON, with the exponential rise in population, we'll reach a point in which we have too many mouths too feed and not enough food. It's already that way in most the world. It'll become worse with time.

Is human starvation and suffering a better alternative to you then the abortion of non aware, non conscious, babies with zero understanding of reality?

If your only argument against abortion is found in a book written by 1st century cave men then that's a problem and you're an idiot.

If your only argument is that it "feels"... Ok stop right there. You're wrong.

Strip away your "feelings" and your 1st century fabled stories on morality and look at try and see the utility of abortion.

The problem with you people is that you are driven by your emotions. In your over emotional oittle pea sized brains, you envision a fetus about to be aborted and then you envision that said fetus has a complete understanding of reality, with full conscious awareness. This simply is not the case. You again refer bsck to your emotions when you envision the life the fetus is being "robbed" of. You picture it become the next president. Curing cancer, etc etc bullshit.

Meanwhile, there are 7 billion humans already here and most of them are pieces of shit who contribute as much as a monkey does to humanity. You believe life is sacred and that's simply not the case. Stop takijg the bible literally.

>>127759308
Jesus christ this scares the shit out of me
That doesn't look like pregnancy. It looks like a Xenomorph layed an egg in her stomach and it's trying to get out

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Post preggos

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>>127761220
Those who actually consider the impact of having kids on the offspring and the world at large are the ones who have none/fewer but should be the only ones.

Isn't having a world filled with more idiots a la Idiocrisy just creating more suffering?

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plants are living things.

ending a seedling during growth is murder.

ending the life of a plant before natural death is murder.

>>127759928
>>127760391
>>127761109
>not knowing women's nipples turn brown when they are preganant
its not like you would impregnate a woman anyway, but its always good to know.

>>127760055
Which one of us is not a mental case...

>>127759308
What in the fuck, did big fat fucking Lenny have a sex change?

>>127759308
Not even being edgy, but people die every day and none of you care at all, how do you motivate yourself to care about dead fetuses?

>>127759308
The right question is not what morally justifiable. Morality is subjective.

The right question is what rules make up a working society.

Abortions seems to affect mostly poor and dumb, and reduce subsequent crime levels. It also doesn't seem that they are a major factor in declining population, so unless you are planning on banning contraception this approach won't help.
I see no reason to be against abortion.

>>127759308
Killing a nigger fetus is always justified. Killing a white fetus is murder.

>>127759308
>Banning abortion is based on the idea that it will stop women from having abortions.
>History has shown that women will just use wire hangers when safe abortion procedures are banned.
>Banning abortion will not stop abortions, it will just lead to more injuries.

And obviously, you can't punish women for having abortions because:

1) They're doing something that is equivalent to an animal gnawing off its own leg to escape a trap. There is no mens rea.
2) Attempting to punish women would deepen the divide between men & women, and not in a good way. There would be sex strikes.

>>127759790
If I left you unassisted when you were first born you wouldn't be alive today. What a bad argument

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>>127762613
Wait... isnt this a copypasta....

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>>127759748
underrated

>>127759308
why does a deer fetus develop into a deer but you develop into a person? easy the deer fetus has deer dna and the person has person dna. thats what seperates you from a deer. the fetus has human dna from the moment of conception. the same dna as an adult human

>>127759873
She's pretty. Moar? Also, as some of you virgins don't realize, plenty of white women have brown-toned nipples. There's a lot of variation in nipple tone.

>>127759308
why does a deer fetus develop into a deer but you develop into a person? easy the deer fetus has deer dna and the person has person dna. thats what seperates you from a deer. the fetus has human dna from the moment of conception. the same dna as an adult human.

>>127760055

see proof
>>127762580

>>127762240
It looks like she could die from that any moment.

>>127759308
If it`s a mentally disabled child beyond any curing - yes, it is justified. Also if it`s an OP.

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>>127762205

>Implying I am against abortion

You are correct, but how would you suggest realistically implementing the global control of population? Particularly one based on who is deemed inferior?

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>>127759873
>white woman
>black nipples

prolifers in a nut shell:
>you need to keep that baby avortion is murder, God wouldnt want that, all life is sacred
>no it doesnt deserve any healthcare, its not my job to pay for it, i dont care how sick it is
pathetic how they cherry pick from the bible

>>127762840
problem is she is dyed blonde, ugly color, praised only for being rare (and aryan)

>>127759308
If you are ok with murder in certain circumstances then you can justify it to yourself.

I'm more interested in removing the source of power that the elites use through mass mobilised child sacrifice to satan/moloch

>>127759308
>those chestbursters
How many facehuggers did she suck off?

>>127762473
>women become more gross
>why dont you want this grossness!?
>already admitted I don't
>repeats self anyways
Wow you're so special and knowledgeable. Brainwashing ahoy! I want a description in words about why the "aesthetics" of females are worth it. Or their personalities. Never heard anything close to this in 29 years. You won't start now. Enjoy the zika and throat cancer. Maybe some super gonorrhea

>>127762205
Whites have like 2-1 kids on average, its the shitskins that keep popping out 6gorrillon babies, waiting to be spoonfed with our money, let them starve

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>>127759308
>reverse image-search
>"vore captions"

You went to some weird places to grab that picture, didn't you?

>>127759754
This was my suspicion too, some weird vore fetish photoshop

>>127759790
And the world has reached an unemployment rate under 5%. No matter what way you choose to define it or redefine it it's still bullshit.

>>127762205

This pretty much sums it up.

Every time some Jeebus loving socon cries about 10 gorillion dead babby I do not give a flying fuck.

If you want to outlaw abortion than work 3 jobs instead of 2 so you can pay for little Jamal and Jorge and Mohammed to be glorious children of God.

World is overdue for a population bottleneck inducing pandemic anyway. Fry the little fuckers.

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>>127763191
>>127763176
Well that's all I needed

>>127762872
The gut doesn't lie.

>>127763130
it is also white trashy Swedes doing it here, somehow the retards poop the children, while others need to work for them

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>>127763284
>jeebus
woah that's pretty edgy of you my dude

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Anon, it looks like the condom broke. I know that we just met, but I want to keep the baby.

It'll look just like us!

>>127763453

;/

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Pregnant White Women are the bomb.

>>127759308
It can be justified because an embryo/fetus doesn't actually qualify as an "individual" prior to a certain point in a pregnancy. This is why they die when removed from the organism that hosts them.

Sure, they're made up of human tissue and may one day develop into an individual human, but they are only part of a human until that happens.

As a result, they don't get the same rights and protections as human beings.

If a fetus is considered to be a human being, there should be nothing wrong with physically removing it from another human being who does not want it there.

>>127763471
proof different sub-species mixed
figures why she is blonde

>>127763513
>using emoticons
how new are you please answer

>>127759308

>the killing of human beings is prohibited

Found the problem right there. It shouldn't be prohibited in many different circumstances. Violent criminals? They should be pruned from society. The mentally feeble? Eugenics is the answer. Habitual substance abusers? Straight to the oven. Those greedy business men that destroy the economy? Public disgracing and execution, and their entire assets should be seized and their family should be forced into poverty. Those open border advocates? Lined up against a wall and shot.

Not every life is precious. The world is overpopulated. We got to start weighing lives against each other andestablishing criteria for who gets to stay and who has to go. If we pretend everyone is equal then the trash, and not the meek, will inherit the Earth.

>>127759308
"and the BABE leaped on her womb when he heard the salutation of Mary"! And Elisabeth was fill with the Holy Spirit and prohetized about Jesus on Mary's womb!

A protoplasm didn't leap!

"and women will loose their natural affection" in the last days.

>>127763775

Do you really want to know?

>>127762954
At some point, yes. Eventually, someone somwhere will have to FORCE population control.

Earths population isn't a stready increase. Its a rapid, exponential increase. It'll reach unattainable numbers soon if we punch in the numbers and play out the scenario.

I dont think abortion is the answer to population control
At all but we should take the positive results where we can get them.

I dont know the solution.
Maybe war
Maybe forced contraceptive
Or 1 child per family

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>>127763732
I take weird vore fetish-shit over race-mixing any day. Niggers are repulsive.

>>127763811
Yes. Not asking so I can pick on you. Genuine question because your manner of typing seems like youre new or from reddit.

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Just privatize the reproduction of our species already.

>>127761220
>I mean the fact that you have to put in a lot of effort to even enjoy life really proves that non-existence is superior to existence.

And imagine what it's like in shit tier countries

>>127764000

Class of 2005. Came over from 20721 during the Cracky wars.

>>127761060
Would you put that shirt on your kid?

>>127763120
>gross

That is entirely your opinion permavirgin

>>127764041
you mean we should be able to buy retards babies to have them aborted?

>>127764190
Reddit confirmed.
A true oldfag wouldn't feel the need to overcompensate describing memes they learned about from knowyourmeme.com

>>127762971
What is being responsible for your actions for $400 Alex

Is it murder to them, yes. Is your shitty little mistake their problem? no

With all the multiple forms of contraceptives there's literally no excuse for unplanned pregnancy. Give it up for adoption if you can't fucking pay for it or better yet be a responsible adult that can take a pill or cover your cock

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>>127764041
Soooo
Convert to Islam?

>>127764190
>le I came on 4chan in 2005/2006 meme

Said every newfag since 2010

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>>127764418

lol internet

>>127759308
I believe abortion is murder, however, sometimes it unfortunately needs to happen. I'd rather have a poor single mom on crack abort her fetus then have another failure brought in the world.

>>127762962
fucking virgins man
They turn brown when women get pregnant
Also if you think brown nipples are ugly you might aswell just be a massive faggot

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>>127763471
>Female Markiplier

>>127759308

>foe tus
>2019

SPELL IT RIGHT you fucking {

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>>127764689

No back then everyone tried to say they had been here since the lights came on.

>>127759928
>>127760391
>>127761109
>>127759928
Underage please go

>>127764190
Definitely reddit.

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>>127763732
Any more pics like that (pregnant white women with their virile black partners). For my collection.

>>127759631
Invitro fertilization.
Women who have no business reproducing, using science to create monsters

>>127765499
absolutely [R E P U L S I V E]

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>>127765478

^__^

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>>127759873
muh...
muh dick!!!

>>127764471
Hes right. these people dont realizr that the baby does in fact become their problem. What ends up happening is,

The parents never ever end up being responsible for their actions like you wish. They arent responsible. YOU are responsible. The mother immediately applies for government handouts to provide for her baby.

The father likely leaves.

The mother, likely a minority and likely legally retarded, see the reward for 1 baby and decides to have 3 more for the benifits.

You end up having to fund this bullshit with your taxes. Whatever the government lets you keep, its liable to be stolen by these same children who turn out rotten because mommy is a proven irresponsible cunt who couldn't and shouldn't have had a child.

Abortion doesn't hurt anyone. All it does is relieve oressure on society. Its not responsible, level headed, intelligent humans having abortions. No. Those people actually use the stupidly simply contraceptive in most cases.

Its societies WORST that are too stupid and have sero self awareness that pop out these babies thst show up at the abortion clinic.

WHY WOULD WE WANT TO TURN THESE PEOPLE AWAY?

Its fucking nuts that people want these future murderers and rapist to be born

>>127765688

My misguided leaf friend, let me direct you to the truth:
>>127763176

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>>127765038
I was wondering when an uneducated Burger would be bewildered and enraged at British (correct) spelling.

>>127765499
The guys seem like some of the nicest guys in the world, while the girls seem like soulless bloodsuckers. Of course, a lot of the guys are also gay, or at least "gay for pay" so maybe that's it.

>>127759308
Here's my opinion: If you can't feed em don't breed em

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>>127759308
Abortion violates the 5th amendment.

Abortion is unconstitutional.

Abortion is tyranny.

>>127759308
designer bogdanoff babies are here

>>127766179
OI FOOKIN ROIGHT TELL DAT FOOKIN WANNKA WHOS THA MOST IMBREAD
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0

>>127759308
Are the babies white?

Abortion should only be allowed in cases of rape because nothing good can come out of it:

>father gone (if the rapist is a man, of course)
>mother reminded of what happened to her everytime she looks at her kid
>kid grows up without a father, and a messed up mother that will probably treat them poorly. If they ever found out they're a product of rape and the cause of her mother's suffering, they'd probably kill themselves too.

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>>127765506
My wife and I will be using invitro to create more white babies. There's a high chance of twins, so making two white babies for the price of one is a pretty good deal, mate. /pol/ would approve. Better than adopting some 3rd world niglet.

>>127765741
>ripper
that guy was a fucking retard

>>127767271
LOL are those real tattoos? Absolutely pathetic.

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>>127759308
yup

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>>127767279

Yes. 1000%. I didn't celebrate his death though. I thought it was sad and stupid.

Pic semi related.

>>127759308
>The killing of human beings is prohibited.
Not true.

So the first point of your logical is false as is everything that follows.

>>127767267
They could be put up for adoption.
Every human being has a rapist in their ancestry.

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>>127759308
You drumphfskins. A human fetus is not human. Gees.

>>127760070

Abortion shouldn't be used as birth control but all niggers should be aborted

>>127759308
This kind of mentality is what allows subhumans to claim our land without any opposition. "Bu-but we cannot kill/hurt/offend humans!" Fuck you, many human sub-species are not worth living, killing humans should be normalized, applying race restrictions of course. Please kill yourself, I see through your disguise kike.

>>127766179
Nah, this time the superior burger word is the right one. Nobody uses that shitty abomination, not even medically. It couldn't be more wrong.

>>127767775
Eh, I guess as long as the kid never finds out. Still, pretty fucked up.

>>127767448
Hell if I know. I doubt it though.

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>>127760914
Shiiiiiiet

>>127760070
>>127760616
Which is why it shoudl be illegal
More niggers in jail

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>>127759873

>>127759308
Abortion should be legal for all non-whites, if not mandatory.

>>127768747
Hnnnn.nnggggghh

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>>127768747

this is apparently mal malloy btw

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>>127767271
>Tattoos
>Nigger-tier watch
>Plastic tits
>Bleached hair
>Fake nails

1/10

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>>127768747
>>127768927
>mal is pregnant now

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>>127762205
Yeah, dont solve the crime/poverty problem, kill innocent children instead. Cultural marxism is really making people believe snow is black. And this is without quoting the Bible. To be pro abortion you must be anti science and anti theism. According to biology, at concepction (when sperm and the ovum connect) a new and unique DNA forms that will never be formed again. So, at that point, a real human being (wether you like it or not) has been created. Anything you do with that first mother cell is the same that doing it to a someone 20 years old or 40 years old. You can be ignorant about this but neither science nor religion backs your belief. The worst part is that Rockefeller's / Gates / Soro's and pretty much all globalists foundations are pushing this agenda, and the fact that neither of you are realising that means that you learned 0 things from this board.

>>127759308
>when you knock up your waifu and kek blesses your marriage with quads

>a foetus is a human being
Nigga what?

>>127759308
I dunno lol

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>>127759308
Yes if your morals allow abortions!

You seem to think that everyone shares your same morals. They dont!

>>127769165
You could also argue that this people push this agenda because they are Lucifarian's (there are a lot of people that connected the richest people in the world with freemasonry aka tribute to Lucifer) and abortions would be mass sacrifices, because of course, the purest the victim (childs are sinless), the biggest the price of the sacrififce.

>>127759308
>Is abortion ever morally justified
Not for white babies

Always- is what it is. There should be more. Kermit Gosnell is /ourguy/

>>127770227
See, this is what I don't understand about /pol/. While I don't think we should outlaw abortion because there are plenty of circumstances where it's justified, black women have way more abortions than white women. To outlaw abortion would proportionally increase the black birthrate by a LOT. Why would we want that?

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>>127759308
>Is abortion ever morally justifiable
Prohibiting abortion is immoral

>A foetus is a human being
We all know that's not true. A embryo or fetus may one day become a human being, but by every measure of our culture, science, history, law, language and religion, it is not until it is viable.

>>127760914
Left needs to be removed from the gene pool

>>127770750

Pro-life beliefs come prepackaged with conservatism. Fence sitters are petrified of going against one of the sacred cows of the movement. Or at least admitting it publicly. It would be like a liberal saying they have had enough of BLM bullshit. They may think it but they don't say it. Or they feel that they would not be politically pure enough.

A form of self imposed thought censorship.

>>127760666
>Thankfully that is a scientific question
That's a rhetorical question. A scientific question would be a LOT more specific.

>Ending this gestation unnaturally is ending a Human Being
Then why do we call it a fetus instead of an unborn teenager or unborn senior citizen?

>>127762962
hormones youngling.

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abortion is legal (murdering literally human)
alcohol is legal (causes violence and murders)
tobacco is legal (kills billions of people every day)

weed is... ILLEGAL!!!!!!

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>>127770750
REMOVE NEGRO

>>127764801
Holy shit kek.

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>>127771228
t.jealous mexican goblin

>>127759873
Her tits are brown as shit.
Le ameriwhite everybody.
Repeat after me, if it ain't pink it ain't white.

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>>127771123
>Prohibiting abortion is immoral
You sound like a beta leftist. Besides you can't say that something is immoral without acknowdleging God as a moral entity.

>We all know that's not true
Refute the current scientific consensus on human life then. Until then you are talking out of your ass.

>>127771467
Fetus is just the name of the state that person is in. What does it have to do with anything? Dont try to bring science in your favor because that's not something you can do here. It's quite the opposite actually.

>>127759308
rape, incest, single mom & "minority" babies only

>>127767780
>Liberal Biosience.jpg
>more like conservative nonsense
Adult amoeba v egg sac
Biology you did not

>>127759790
>Until it could survive unassisted outside the womb, it isn't a person.
So you are not a person. And neither is anyone under the age of 13.

>>127767780
>A human fetus is not human.
A human fetus is human. Just not a person or its own human being until it is born or ready to be born

Although I support abortion, I absolutely despise "just a clump of cells" argument...aren't we all just clump of cells? aren't all animals just clumps of cells? How come the vegan and pro-choice demography overlap? Also, what's with the derrogatory tone? I swear people disgust me.

>>127760391
>>127759928
Women's areolas and nipples darken when they are pregnant due to the influx of hormones. My wife hated it, but they went back to normal after a while.

>>127772508
This is why you need a moral entity (God) in wich you frame upon a standard of good and evil. If you don't then everything can be justified, and you can't say that raping and killing a newborn baby is wrong.

This is the moral argument for the existance of God

>>127771860
>>127760769

Do you know what nipples do when women are pregnant? Not that you'll ever make it that far with a woman, but they darken. A 10 second Google search would have saved you the embarrassment.

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>>127762205
There are more nonwhites out breeding you in places where abortion is neither safe, nor acceptable. Nationally, we suffer by allowing this, globally we go extinct. Don't play small ball. a few "civilized" blacks is far better than african hordes.

Overpopulation is a self correcting problem. Hungry people start wars, if they start wars with white people they lose.

>>127762688
>Abortions seems to affect mostly poor and dumb, and reduce subsequent crime levels. It also doesn't seem that they are a major factor in declining population,
Typical Russian, incapable of intelligent thought. At least 53 million babies have been aborted in the US over the last 40 or so years. And you think abortion has no significant effect on population? You're a moron.

Also you're falsely thinking poor people commit more crimes than non poor people. It's not that simple Vlady boy.

>>127772461
>A human fetus is human. Just not a person
What nonsense.

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>>127759308
>>A foetus is a human being.

>>127769165

>kill innocent children instead.
It's against the law to kill children. You must be confused.


>Cultural marxism
You easily fell for the whole "cultural marxism" bit, but you can't possibly imagine the same Kremlin Russians hacked the US elections?

>And this is without quoting the Bible.
The Bible belies your nonsense.


>To be pro abortion you must be anti science and anti theism.
To be pro abortion you must be pro-science and pro-theism.

>You can be ignorant about this but neither science nor religion backs your belief.
You can't possibly be that stupid. It's clear you don't know the first thing about science, but have you ever read the bible before? God always equates life with breath. If a fetus isn't breathing, it isn't living according to the Abrahamic Gods.

>Rockefeller's / Gates / Soro's and pretty much all globalists foundations are pushing this agenda,
And you conclude with another breathless Quixotic attack on those pesky conspiracy theories. I feel bad trying to reason with someone who is so mentally infirm.

>>127770151
>the purest the victim (childs are sinless),
God says some fetuses are wicked.

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>>127771123
literally like 5 days in. Barely even detectable as pregnant at this point.

>>127773115
>>127773338
"Human development begins after the union of male and female gametes or germ cells during a process known as fertilization (conception).
"Fertilization is a sequence of events that begins with the contact of a sperm (spermatozoon) with a secondary oocyte (ovum) and ends with the fusion of their pronuclei (the haploid nuclei of the sperm and ovum) and the mingling of their chromosomes to form a new cell. This fertilized ovum, known as a zygote, is a large diploid cell that is the beginning, or primordium, of a human being."
[Moore, Keith L. Essentials of Human Embryology. Toronto: B.C. Decker Inc, 1988, p.2]

"The development of a human being begins with fertilization, a process by which two highly specialized cells, the spermatozoon from the male and the oocyte from the female, unite to give rise to a new organism, the zygote."
[Langman, Jan. Medical Embryology. 3rd edition. Baltimore: Williams and Wilkins, 1975, p. 3]

"Embryo: The developing individual between the union of the germ cells and the completion of the organs which characterize its body when it becomes a separate organism.... At the moment the sperm cell of the human male meets the ovum of the female and the union results in a fertilized ovum (zygote), a new life has begun.... The term embryo covers the several stages of early development from conception to the ninth or tenth week of life."
[Considine, Douglas (ed.). Van Nostrand's Scientific Encyclopedia. 5th edition. New York: Van Nostrand Reinhold Company, 1976, p. 943]

The scientific community continues to prove that human life begins at conception (fertilization).

In their latest edition of The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology, professors Keith Moore, TVN Persaud, and Mark Torchia shed significant light on the development of the human person – and they don’t shy away from the reality of when life begins.

Leftists BTFO. And don't come back.

>>127762305
pls post mroe

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>>127759873
/pol/ biology lesson of the day

That almost reminds me of strat. brb drink.

>>127759308
>>127759873
>>127761491
>>127762305
>>127768747
>>127768927
Pregnancy is the most redpilled fetish

>>127774170
One day we'll be able to inject coconut dna into an egg and have women grow palmtrees.

>>127773818

Jeremiah 1:5
Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

Psalm 139:13-16
13 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb.
14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well.
15 My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth.
16 Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be.

>>127774170

Stop embarrasing yourself dude.

>>127774170
Kys spic, I'm no where near being a lefty cuck. I'm just smart enough to realize stem cells could be used for something more than a unwanted child.

>>127759308
>The killing of human beings is prohibited.

In general yes.

>A foetus is a human being.

No it's not. It's something that's developing towards becoming a human being. Where the exact limit is drawn I have no clear idea of however.


>What is a human being?

That's a really good questions which I suppose could make for an extremely interesting discussion. Making an exact definition for the concept seems like something which would be extremely sensitive to becoming arbitrary.

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slurp slurp jew pedo-men

>>127759647
This

>>127773115
It isn't self aware, killing it is no different than killing a rat or a fish. Besides /pol/ loves to tout the morality and benefits of eugenics but somehow opposes abortion which is total hypocrisy.

>>127774559
Will her milk taste like refreshing coconut milk?

>>127772034
>You sound like a beta leftist.
You sound stark raving mad. I'd rather be the beta leftist than you.

>Besides you can't say that something is immoral without acknowdleging God as a moral entity.
As a man I have the moral standing to invoke and recognize immorality. All morals are man-made which makes all morality subjective. Even you acknowledge that men wrote the Bible, Talmud, Quran, etc.

>Refute the current scientific consensus on human life then.
You don't even know what that is. Besides, everyone knows from climate change that scientific consensus means nothing.

>Fetus is just the name of the state that person is in.
Fetus is the Latin for "sprout".

>Dont try to bring science in your favor because that's not something you can do here.
The current position of biology is that life is a continuous thing - living tissue spinning off new life.

>>127774698
You can be "smart" all you want. But you can't back your beliefes neither with since nor religion. So good luck making you arguments.

>>127774764
See >>127774170

>>127759631
It's a morph.

I've beat off to the photos of her progression multiple times.

>>127774405
this desu. Jerk on lads

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>>127774617

Nice link.

>>127774559
>>127774948
Hawt

>>127759308
Is this a real life deamonculaba?

>>127771733
>the jews want to make it so no bus ever looks like that by infesting everywhere with disgusting brown people
When I drive down the road and see little blonde girls playing on their bikes or walking with their parents downtown it makes me love where I live, and pissed about the Jews hating such beautiful scenery. I'm just glad I still go weeks without seeing anyone darker than the darkest person in that picture.

I still have that for now, anyway.....

>>127775013
>As a man I have the moral standing to invoke and recognize immorality.

You can't stay that something is immoral just because you say so, thats subjective morality, wich means that your opinion is worth not more than anybody else's. If you base your morality on God (written in the Scripture) you have a base ground in wich you can say such things are evil or good. Without objective morality (impossible in an a-theistic world view) you can justify everything because there's no right nor wrong. So killing and raping babies wouldn't be wrong.

>>127774559
That sounds like it would be extremely painful.

>>127775572

Was the Albigensian Crusade moral?

>>127775719
You're a big guy

>>127774170
>"Human *development* begins
>"The *development* of a human
>The *developing* individual
You struggle with big-syllable words like "develop" don't you?

>The scientific community continues to prove that human life begins at conception (fertilization).
Nope, in fact, the stem-cell project asks permission from the woman who donated them to clone more of her embryos. They recognize those embryos not as unborn bikers or unborn accountants, but as her personal property.
That's the science, that's the policy, that's the law.
https://www.ethicalrights.com/images/stories/pdffiles/ERCloningEmbryonicStemCells.pdf

>>127775815
Yes. All crusades were.

>>127775820
For you

Soon
>>127777777

>>127775815
According to the Bible, killing innocent people is wrong. So whoever killed innocent people in that crusade, commited sin, simple as that. Is not necesarilly the event, but the things that happen in the event that make it moral/immoral.

>>127775903

I see.

>>127775820

For you

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>>127776104

Was the cause a just and moral one?

>>127776221
Cool flag desu.

Do all men find pregnant bellies to be extremely erotic or is it just me? Because I always get grossed out when my cousins post pregnant pictures on normiebook for the whole world to see. It feels like looking at their tits or something.

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>>127775903
Time to go back Ahmed

>>127759790
>He agreed with liberals and still use /pol/
This is why Neo-liberals are as bad as SJW

>>127776221
Unironically this.

I'll always support abortion since it kills nigs like none other.

>>127775871
Yeah, a child who is 1 year old is still developing buddy. Does that mean that you have the right to kill it? Are you seriously that stupid?

“Every human being alive today and, as far as is known scientifically, every human being that ever existed, began his or her unique existence in this manner, i.e., as one cell. If this first cell or any subsequent configuration of cells perishes, the individual dies, ceasing to exist in matter as a living being. There are no known exceptions to this rule in the field of human biology.”

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>>127774617
>Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee;
Before he was formed? Pre-conception? Wow, dude, you just proved for a fact that God says life does NOT begin AT conception but obviously sometime BEFORE.

>>127774617
>you knit me together in my mother’s womb.
So why do women have miscarriages? God suddenly get tired of knitting? Made a few mistakes and threw it out?

Or is God the biggest abortionist of all? And we are made in his abortionist image!

Thanks for clearing that up, too.

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As cool as it is to know that that's Your Kids Growing in there..
When a Woman gets to that stage of pregnancy I'd be fucking a Trap on the side until she gets back in shape after.

>>127776344
It's a clear and obvious signal of fertility. The monkey part of our brains wants to fuck that despite the fact it would be currently impossible to actually procreate with them

>>127774927
>/pol/ is a monolith
our society is decaying because of abortion

>>127776751
You're just a homo. Stick to dick and stay out of the gene pool

>>127776746
that was jewish god.

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>HAPPENING HAPPENING HAPPENING

GET IN HERE OPERATION CNN/KATHY TAKE DOWN ULTRA >>127773215 →

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>>127759308
>no kill human beans
Who said everyone has to agree with this premise? As far as I'm concerned, the killing of living beings capable of forming an identity and having self-awareness should be prohibited, whether they are humans or some kind of intelligent alien life form, but this obviously excludes fetuses. Now what?

>>127759308
Abortion is just female controlled eugenics. Needless to say. We cannot allow women to have a monopoly on our race. In womens defense, down syndrome birth rates have gone down with 60%.

>>127776905
are you implying traps are gay?

i hate to break it to you, but the science is settled and heterosexuality isn't even a real thing.

there's nothing wrong with fucking a trap. i'll even let you fuck me for free.

>>127776746
>Before he was formed?
Yeah, maybe the fact the He is God (timeless and spaceless being) has something to do with it. You either don't understand the concept of God or just silly.

>So why do women have miscarriages? God suddenly get tired of knitting? Made a few mistakes and threw it out?

That implies that we live in a perfect world. And we clearly not, there's good and evil. Read the Bible before you make arguments that were refuted a thousand times.

>>127764261
no, but i'd gladly take it off of them before i gave them their daily "massage"

>>127759308
>What is a human being, /pol/?
You're not one for starters

>>127777230
Man ass and sweaty ballsacks. Sounds vomit inducing.

>>127776905
Nah I want to have a progeny, and pussy is sweet too

Yes. If one or more of the parents is not white abortion should be mandatory.

>>127777230
post boipussy

>>127761491
>oy vey

what?

>filename
oh

>>127777537

Behgjet brings the banter.

>>127759308
My generation was thoroughly MK ULTRAD to think yes. Ah, regrets.

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>>127775572
>You can't stay that something is immoral just because you say so, thats subjective morality,
I can say something is immoral because all morality is subjective.

>wich means that your opinion is worth not more than anybody else's.
Our subjective morality is a social contract. We follow or morals because we generally agree with each other about them.

>If you base your morality on God (written in the Scripture) you have a base ground in wich you can say such things are evil or good.
No, gods would have to exist before you could base morality upon them, and even then you'd have to prove that he inspired the men who wrote your subjective morals. All you're doing it asking your subjective morals, pretending they are created by your gods, and then lying to everyone about them.

>Without objective morality (impossible in an a-theistic world view)
Objective morals do not exist. They can't even exist in your fantasy island.

>you can justify everything because there's no right nor wrong. So killing and raping babies wouldn't be wrong.
Like your Gods who kill all the firstborn of Egypt to prove a point?

"Samaria shall become desolate; for she has rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up."
Hosea 13:16

That's your morality?

>>127774405
I guess it shouldnt surprise me that a bunch of 15 yr olds didnt know this. Still they are fucking retarded.

>>127759308
When it's niggers doing the aborting, yes.

>>127778033
>pic
>liberty for all
>all
this is the exact point being argued for pro-lifers. You're denying the child their right to life.

Also, the subjectivity of morality is subjective.

>>127760914
Nordic, Anglo, Mediterranean.

>>127777777

>>127761220
>not existing Is preferable to existing
>I am superior intelligence

Kys

>>127776552
>Yeah, a child who is 1 year old is still developing buddy.
So you admit the moving goalposts of"development" don't make for a very accurate determination of when life beings.

Thanks once again for proving my point so much better than I could.

>>127776929
>that was jewish god.
He's the same Abrahamic God for all the Middle East religions. The Christians even call him by the same name as the Jews.

>>127759308
abortion is wholly moral if:

1) the baby is non-white
2) the baby is retarded
3) the baby is deformed
4) the mother is retarded
5) the mother is deformed from genetic defect possibly to be passed on
6) the mother is a drug addict
7) the mother is super-ugly
8) the child is the product of rape or incest (redundantly restating reasons 1 through 7, really)

Not trolling or baiting but has anyone here ever been involved in any pro-life activities?

Praying at the clinics..posters street preaching etc.

>>127777355
>Yeah, maybe the fact the He is God (timeless and spaceless being) has something to do with it
Regardless of your late rationalizations, you've proven with hard biblical evidence that conception can not possibly be the beginning of new human life.

>Read the Bible before you make arguments
I'm still waiting for you to finally read yours. Maybe you'll finally realize you've been wrong all along.

>And we clearly not, there's good and evil.
God says fetuses can be wicked too.

Psalm 58:3-5 King James Version (KJV)
"3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies."

Recap:
Innocent fetuses (childs are sinless) - you found out God thinks some of them are wicked.
Conception - you found out is it not the scientific nor religious beginning of life.
Morality - you found out that morals are written by men
Development - you found out that you had no idea that that meant, but its vague definition destroyed all your "pwoofs"

I'm really starting to feel sorry for the senseless beating that you're taking here.

>>127778415
>You're denying the child their right to life.
Not a child until it is born
Not a living being until it is born
Fetus is not a person until it is born
Persons, like pregnant women, are born and have rights. Fetuses are not beings yet and have no standing. Fetal rights never existed until religious extremists invented them a few years back.

>>127776977
>the killing of living beings
That's already illegal. We already have laws for that.

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>>127774544
>being aroused by a woman pregnant by another man
literally the most cucked fetish

>>127780632
>Fetuses are not beings yet and have no standing
This is the entire crux of the debate. Prove it.
>Not a living being until it is born
This is objectively false.

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>>127781451
A person is the sum of all experiences. Baby has none. Not a person.

>>127781649
Whooops, unborn baby.

>>127768699
>wanting to add to an already crippled system
>more niggers = more crime

>>127775572
you can't say something is immoral because some desert people thousands of years ago claimed they knew there was a God and he told them how he felt.

oh wait you just did

you're worse than "beta". you're retarded.

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How do you guys know it's a nigger in her womb?

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>>127763297
Could be worse.

Could be unbirthing.

>>127781649
>>127781691
you undid your own argument. The newborn has no more experiences than the child in utero.

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>>127778033
I won't start a debate about theology because that's besides the point we are discussing here. If you want to learn more about that listen to William Lane Craig.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2kSST8O93Y

>>127778839
You have to be trolling at this point but w/e. Development means that the kid is growing, but that doesn't change the fact that he still is a human life, is that so hard to understand? The point where life begins has been already settled, until it's changed by biology, everything you say is not scientific but opinion based.

>>127780134
>God says fetuses can be wicked too.

God knows if someone will be evil when he grows up, he knows everything. I think you don't grasp that concept yet. The child is wicked, that means that he is ill-natured, but that doesn't mean that he has commited sin yet, but God knows that he will (or do something that he considers a wicked being would do). That's why we know that in the end, the good wins.

Recap: God is all powerfull and all mighty. He is timeless and spaceless so he knows everything there is and will be.
Biology says that human life begins at conception so everything you do to that cell is being done to a human being.
God gave us his commandments so they are objective

Good luck

>>127759631
If you think that's weird, you haven't seen anything yet.
You haven't seen anything yet...

>>127759308
>Is abortion ever morally justifiable?
morals are subjective so. to some, yes. to others, no. simple as that.

I personally would be fine with post birth abortions for severely crippled children

there is no humane life for someone who cant do a single thing for themselves, have to live in a wheelchair, and cannot form a sentence other than some kind of yell. Id rather be dead than live like that

>>127759748
Probably artificial

>>127759308
What the fuck does she have in her stomach? An alien? The devil?

>>127782789
The problem is that's how you view your life. I've met plenty of disabled that are happy with theirs.

>>127781695
You explain to me how those "desert people" predicted thousands of events including the coming of Jesus Christ, and I will believe that it was "man made".

>>127779496
>1). The baby is non-white
(((CNN))) half of the population says none whites should be aborted.
>Me listening to NPR
Hi, I'm Terry Groce and it's time for white genocide.

>>127779496
Best guideline ever. It should be put into law worldwide.

>>127781743
Benny Hill eat your heart out!

>>127783036
I have too. I suppose im blinded to the fact that ive never experienced anything like that as well other than having a dead arm for a minute or something from sleeping wrong

its not even that though, its for the parents as well. i know anecdotal evidence isnt really evidence but its about all i have to support my thoughts

i work with a lady whos son is like i described, we havent talked about it much but she hates the life that she has because of him. She has said that she knows of other parents that feel the same as well. Having a child is one thing but to at least some of the people out there, having a child that is nearly incapable of anything can be nothing but a burden to some of the parents.

>>127783036
I've also seen ones that have been destroyed.

>>127783665
And that is a tragedy, but that doesn't justify treating them the same way we treat serial killers or armed-robbers. In our country at least adoption is an option.

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>>127782840
Niggers. So yes.

>>127783946
Mercy or punishment? Nature was the decider and we fucked that up.

>>127759873
Nipples

>>127784083
>Mercy or punishment?
A call that is too early to be made for anyone that is not the individual in question. They aren't criminals and we even give them the benefit of the doubt.

>>127759308
It is morally wrong to knowingly bring a massively deformed/retarded children into this world, in those cases abortion is the only moral option. Though generally abortion is unfortunate, it's still better than bringing unwanted children into this world since the children usually turn out a bit wrong if their parents hold a grudge against them for being born.

>>127784315
Assuming the life isn't in constant pain and agony. Some personal knowledge here.

>>127784517
Just because of deformed/retarded doesn't mean unwanted.

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>>127774927
Abortion promotes promiscuity and freedom of consequences. It's a tool that should only be used in very strict and controlled circumstances.

>>127784644
The system we have in place likes to operate, in almost every other setting, by erring on the side of caution. Why this case gets an exception is troubling since the loss is much greater.

>>127759873
who is she?

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>>127759308
>The killing of human beings is prohibited.

Ummmm sorry sweetie, but /pol/ is a nihilist board, rape murder steal kill people all make kek happy.

>>127784988
None the less it's fucking brutal. Nature was the bearer of this burden, not man. I wish it stayed that way.

>>127784644
Even if it is, death is always an option later, there's no justification to make the decision for someone else.

>>127783946
>>127784315
adoption is an option, however as with what i said about jail, its a crippling system that is way too full.

>>127784820
abortion imo should be 100% legal. Look into what happened in romania under communism where abortions were banned outright. A child shouldnt have to be a consequence for having sex and not have to be raised in a home where it was not wanted in the first place.

>>127762205
I FUCKING TELL THIS to everyone here but they never listen.

Abortion is the best way to fuck up the womb of these thug factories.

>>127785542
2 open heart surgeries to keep alive and loss of almost all function.

>>127785304
And as man, we try to overcome the obstacles nature puts in front of us. We've been encountering disasters, famines, and diseases every since we started walking this rock. The only light I can offer is that we're getting better at dealing with them.